Re: [CentOS] qmail package for CentOS 7

2017-03-20 Thread Keith Keller
On 2017-03-15, rai...@ultra-secure.de  wrote:
>
> Qmail is a very special beast...

It's definitely a beast.  I usually suggest postfix, which gives many of
the benefits that qmail gives (separate processes for separate tasks)
without the blatant drawbacks (djb's suggestion to use daemontools, his
refusal to accept patches).

FWIW, at least qmail worked well enough without daemontools.  Getting
djbdns to work without it was hellish (and it had a nonstandard zone
file syntax).

--keith

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Re: [CentOS] qmail package for CentOS 7

2017-03-15 Thread rainer

Am 2017-03-15 06:22, schrieb Keith Keller:

On 2017-03-14, rai...@ultra-secure.de  wrote:


You could try Matt Simerson's Toaster:

https://github.com/msimerson/Mail-Toaster-6

It does a lot more than just qmail and replaced as much of qmail as
possible...


But is it for Linux?  The Wiki says:

"each component is thinly provisioned in a FreeBSD jail."

If it uses something as low level as a FreeBSD jail it might be
difficult to get working in linux.



Ah, yes.
The previous version also worked on Linux (supposedly).
Still available on github.

Qmail is a very special beast...
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Re: [CentOS] qmail package for CentOS 7

2017-03-14 Thread Keith Keller
On 2017-03-14, rai...@ultra-secure.de  wrote:
>
> You could try Matt Simerson's Toaster:
>
> https://github.com/msimerson/Mail-Toaster-6
>
> It does a lot more than just qmail and replaced as much of qmail as 
> possible...

But is it for Linux?  The Wiki says:

"each component is thinly provisioned in a FreeBSD jail."

If it uses something as low level as a FreeBSD jail it might be
difficult to get working in linux.

--keith

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Re: [CentOS] qmail package for CentOS 7

2017-03-14 Thread Peter Peltonen
Hi,

Qmailtoaster http://www.qmailtoaster.com/ offers a CentOS 7 yum repo.

BR,
Peter

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Gordon Messmer
 wrote:
> On 03/14/2017 12:53 AM, Rajmohan Banavi wrote:
>>
>> Is there any package available for qmail? I am having hard time finding
>> it.
>
>
>
> If you're interested in an qmail-style mail server that's actively
> maintained, take a few minutes to look at Courier MTA. It features POP and
> IMAP servers in addition to SMTP, all similar in design and configuration to
> qmail.
>
> On the down side, you'll have to build packages yourself.  On the up side,
> it's quite easy to do so.  (rpmbuild -tb , or rpmbuild -ts and
> mock for the binary build).
>
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Re: [CentOS] qmail package for CentOS 7

2017-03-14 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 03/14/2017 12:53 AM, Rajmohan Banavi wrote:

Is there any package available for qmail? I am having hard time finding it.



If you're interested in an qmail-style mail server that's actively 
maintained, take a few minutes to look at Courier MTA. It features POP 
and IMAP servers in addition to SMTP, all similar in design and 
configuration to qmail.


On the down side, you'll have to build packages yourself.  On the up 
side, it's quite easy to do so.  (rpmbuild -tb , or 
rpmbuild -ts and mock for the binary build).


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Re: [CentOS] qmail package for CentOS 7

2017-03-14 Thread rainer

Am 2017-03-14 10:19, schrieb Alice Wonder:

On 03/14/2017 12:53 AM, Rajmohan Banavi wrote:
Is there any package available for qmail? I am having hard time 
finding it.

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I doubt it, qmail is quite deprecated and does not support any modern
TLS capabilities without a ton of community provided patches.

I doubt even with community supported patches that it will ever
support RFC 7672 which is important (it takes the "opportunistic" out
of opportunistic TLS when both servers implement it, preventing
protocol downgrade attacks that now are as easy as removing the
STARTTLS)



You could try Matt Simerson's Toaster:

https://github.com/msimerson/Mail-Toaster-6


It does a lot more than just qmail and replaced as much of qmail as 
possible...


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Re: [CentOS] qmail package for CentOS 7

2017-03-14 Thread Alice Wonder

On 03/14/2017 12:53 AM, Rajmohan Banavi wrote:

Is there any package available for qmail? I am having hard time finding it.
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I doubt it, qmail is quite deprecated and does not support any modern 
TLS capabilities without a ton of community provided patches.


I doubt even with community supported patches that it will ever support 
RFC 7672 which is important (it takes the "opportunistic" out of 
opportunistic TLS when both servers implement it, preventing protocol 
downgrade attacks that now are as easy as removing the STARTTLS)

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