Re: [CentOS-docs] update HOWTO page for how to copy ssh pub keys
On 8 October 2010 12:49, Phil Schaffner philip.r.schaff...@nasa.gov wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote on 10/07/2010 06:17 PM: ... which is actually fine with me. really. i'm good with just posting suggestions and fixes for the time being. That's why I suggested you request edit rights for one or more of the pages you have suggested be substantially changed. The usual route to global rights is to do some good work on specific targets, usually with a new page, or pages, and to become known to the -docs list members. For new pages it is usually (IMHO) a good idea to put a draft out for review by the list, even for established members with global edit rights. My suggestion for Rob is a page that really needs a maintainer and significant editorial work, due to age induced rotting -- HowTo Install Java on CentOS 4 and CentOS 5 [1]. It is a page (as a whole) that regularly receives a black look from me whenever it comes into my view and is, I know, a page that Russ regards as an example of poor wiki practice. Alan. [1] http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/JavaOnCentOS ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] Suggestion for how to section: easy way to install the JDK?
I've read website http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/JavaOnCentOS. I am a total newbie with CentOS, but currently, with update 21 of the Java 6 JDK and CentOS 5.5, the installing the JDK appears to be simpler: 1. Download the latest *rpm.bin jdk (as of today,jdk-6u21-linux-i586-rpm.bin) fromhttp://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/widget/jdk6.jsp 2. chmod +x the downloaded file. 3. su 4. Execute the file. The main advantage of this procedure is that you do not need to build an RPM. --- Bob Stine b...@waltonstine.net (703) 217-4784 Rule for living: What Would Clint Eastwood Do? ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Suggestion for how to section: easy way to install the JDK?
Bob Stine wrote: I've read website http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/JavaOnCentOS http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/JavaOnCentOS. I am a total newbie with CentOS, but currently, with update 21 of the Java 6 JDK and CentOS 5.5, the installing the JDK appears to be simpler: 1. Download the latest *rpm.bin jdk (as of today,jdk-6u21-linux-i586-rpm.bin) fromhttp://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/widget/jdk6.jsp http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/widget/jdk6.jsp 2. chmod +x the downloaded file. 3. su 4. Execute the file. The main advantage of this procedure is that you do not need to build an RPM. --- Bob Stine b...@waltonstine.net mailto:b...@waltonstine.net (703) 217-4784 /Rule for living: What Would Clint Eastwood Do?/ ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs This issue with Wiki page has been discussed recently on the following forum topic: https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=116041topic_id=28126forum=38#forumpost116041 and although I never got to reply to Alan Bartlett's proposition (sorry Alan), cause I never got the time to go through the whole thing thoroughly - been rather busy lately. However, I am, in fact, interested in making adjustments to the Wiki page - but sadly not the ones you proposed Bob, since the just won't do the trick. I have to admitt, I don't recall the above instructions (provided at Sun/Oracle's web site - with the links to download the Sun Java SDK package) ever doing any good. So, Ralph (or any other Wiki admin) would you be kind enough to escalate my privileges in order for me to edit the JavaOnCentOS Wiki? Of course, if we get to it, I'll make sure we discuss it thoroughly on the mailing list before the changes go public. -- *Milos Blazevic* Cert. No: 805010564450148 Email: milos.blaze...@sbb.rs mailto:milos.blaze...@sbb.rs Tel: 064/301 45 78 ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Suggestion for how to section: easy way to install the JDK?
Milos Blazivec wrote: ... I am, in fact, interested in making adjustments to the Wiki page - but sadly not the ones you proposed Bob, since the just won't do the trick. Hmm. I ran the executed the bin file, edited /etc/profile so that PATH included the bin directory of the sun jdk directory, added environment variable JDK_HOME, deleted the /usr/bin/java symlink from java - /etc/alternative/java, and everything works, or at least well enough for me to run the Eclipse C++ IDE, which was my goal. Maybe adding the jdk was unnecessary for Eclipse to work? Could you unpack just won't do, or point to a discussion of the issue? Thanks. --- Bob Stine b...@waltonstine.net (703) 217-4784 Rule for living: What Would Clint Eastwood Do? ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Suggestion for how to section: easy way to install the JDK?
Bob Stine wrote: Milos Blazivec wrote: /... I am, in fact, interested in making adjustments to the Wiki / /page - but sadly not the ones you proposed Bob, since the just won't do / /the trick./ Hmm. I ran the executed the bin file, edited /etc/profile so that PATH included the bin directory of the sun jdk directory, added environment variable JDK_HOME, deleted the /usr/bin/java symlink from java - /etc/alternative/java, and everything works, or at least well enough for me to run the Eclipse C++ IDE, which was my goal. Maybe adding the jdk was unnecessary for Eclipse to work? Could you unpack just won't do, or point to a discussion of the issue? Thanks. --- Bob Stine b...@waltonstine.net mailto:b...@waltonstine.net (703) 217-4784 /Rule for living: What Would Clint Eastwood Do?/ ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs What I meant is that the instructions you suggested in your first e-mail are taken from: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/install-linux-64-rpm-138254.html and are all but comprehenssive, let alone appropriate for beginners. These installation instructions have been accompanying Sun Java as long as I can remember, and strangely, no one cared to mention 'em in the Wiki page... don't you think that's kinda odd? I don't - 'cause they don't work! This second part (editing /etc/profiles, deleting symlinks and editing PATH...) is NOT what you mentioned in your first e-mail. However, in my honest oppinion, this is still not the correct way to do this. What you did, is that you probably got it to work for Your particular purpose by resorting to an unconventional method (i.e. circumvent the mechanism intended for this purpose, rather than a by-the-book approach). By solving the problem this way, sooner or later you'll end up breaking something. Maintainance may prove difficult later For me, by-the-book is using alternatives utility for this purpose - intended by the makers way to handle this kind of issues. (switching between different mail servers, etc.) Better idea is to adjust symlink to point to the desired binary, rather than editing PATH variable, deleting the symlink,... Eclipse has got nothing to do with all this... -- ***Milos Blazevic* Cert. No: 805010564450148 Email: milos.blaze...@sbb.rs mailto:milos.blaze...@sbb.rs Tel: 064/301 45 78 ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Suggestion for how to section: easy way to install the JDK?
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Milos Blazevic milos.blaze...@sbb.rs wrote: Bob Stine wrote: Milos Blazivec wrote: /... I am, in fact, interested in making adjustments to the Wiki / /page - but sadly not the ones you proposed Bob, since the just won't do / /the trick./ Hmm. I ran the executed the bin file, edited /etc/profile so that PATH included the bin directory of the sun jdk directory, added environment variable JDK_HOME, deleted the /usr/bin/java symlink from java - /etc/alternative/java, and everything works, or at least well enough for me to run the Eclipse C++ IDE, which was my goal. Maybe adding the jdk was unnecessary for Eclipse to work? Could you unpack just won't do, or point to a discussion of the issue? Thanks. --- Bob Stine b...@waltonstine.net mailto:b...@waltonstine.net (703) 217-4784 /Rule for living: What Would Clint Eastwood Do?/ What I meant is that the instructions you suggested in your first e-mail are taken from: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/install-linux-64-rpm-138254.html and are all but comprehensive, let alone appropriate for beginners. These installation instructions have been accompanying Sun Java as long as I can remember, and strangely, no one cared to mention 'em in the Wiki page... don't you think that's kinda odd? I don't - 'cause they don't work! This second part (editing /etc/profiles, deleting symlinks and editing PATH...) is NOT what you mentioned in your first e-mail. However, in my honest opinion, this is still not the correct way to do this. What you did, is that you probably got it to work for Your particular purpose by resorting to an unconventional method (i.e. circumvent the mechanism intended for this purpose, rather than a by-the-book approach). By solving the problem this way, sooner or later you'll end up breaking something. Maintenance may prove difficult later Agreed. Sometimes the road best taken is the one not yet travelled. jerry ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
