Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration
Scott Robbins wrote: Just for clarification, due to the similarity of name and topic, Scott Robbins (me) requested permission to post an article about Linux-VServer. Okay, I gave ScottRobbins the permissions for the Vserver article (linked from HowTos under virtualization). Cheers, Ralph pgpq5nAihSSpQ.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration
Akemi Yagi wrote: Would you do the above as well ? I'm tired of making corrections for him :-D Done. Didn't see that mail somehow :) Ralph pgpvlRQU8LnMT.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration
Scott Robbins wrote: On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 01:20:44PM +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote: Okay, I gave ScottRobbins the permissions for the Vserver article (linked from HowTos under virtualization). Before I go ahead, Ralph, would you look at the latest version http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/vserver.html and let me know if you consider the first few paragraphs about the kernel adequate for CentOS needs? Put it in red :) See http://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/WikiDesign/modern-CentOS#head-6c278f4d461a74ef56c974f01177021592af5e81 ... Thanks and apologies for causing a fuss. Which fuss? Cheers and have fun Ralph pgpjnZzjj9usZ.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 6:01 AM, Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Robbins wrote: Before I go ahead, Ralph, would you look at the latest version http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/vserver.html and let me know if you consider the first few paragraphs about the kernel adequate for CentOS needs? Put it in red :) See http://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/WikiDesign/modern-CentOS#head-6c278f4d461a74ef56c974f01177021592af5e81 Or... the custom kernel page has this code to make a red warning box: ||bgcolor=#ff8080 warning text here || Thanks and apologies for causing a fuss. Which fuss? Yeah, show me where :D Cheers and have fun Ralph ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 02:58:54PM +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote: Akemi Yagi wrote: Would you do the above as well ? I'm tired of making corrections for him :-D Done. Didn't see that mail somehow :) Darn. Now I can't impose upon Akemi san anymore. -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Willow: On the other hand, maybe Rodney just stepped out for a smoke. Xander: For twenty-one hours? Willow: It's addictive, you know. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration
On 07/06/2008, Scott Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before I go ahead, Ralph, would you look at the latest version http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/vserver.html and let me know if you consider the first few paragraphs about the kernel adequate for CentOS needs? Very first link (http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/centoskvm) doesn't point to anywhere sensible. Alan. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 03:01:18PM +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote: Scott Robbins wrote: On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 01:20:44PM +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote: Okay, I gave ScottRobbins the permissions for the Vserver article (linked from HowTos under virtualization). Before I go ahead, Ralph, would you look at the latest version http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/vserver.html and let me know if you consider the first few paragraphs about the kernel adequate for CentOS needs? Put it in red :) I put the important note part in red, hopefully, that's sufficient. (I was having trouble formatting the whole table.) :) -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Riley: Way I heard it. You were all peaceable now. You didn't by any chance go and lose that pesky soul again, did you? Angel: Don't push me, boy. Riley: Now what possibly could've happened with Buffy that would make you lose your soul? Angel: That'd be between me and her. Riley: Where do you think you're going? Angel: Going to see an old girlfriend. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 06:40:14AM -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote: On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 6:01 AM, Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Robbins wrote: Before I go ahead, Ralph, would you look at the latest version http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/vserver.html and let me know if you consider the first few paragraphs about the kernel adequate for CentOS needs? Put it in red :) See http://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/WikiDesign/modern-CentOS#head-6c278f4d461a74ef56c974f01177021592af5e81 Or... the custom kernel page has this code to make a red warning box: ||bgcolor=#ff8080 warning text here || That's what I'd thought but it didn't come out right. I used a deeper red though, #FF :) -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Wesley: The Council's orders are to concentrate on the... Buffy: Orders. I don't think I'm going to be taking any more orders. Not from you, not from them. Wesley: You can't turn your back on the Council. Buffy: They're in England. I don't think they can tell which way my back is facing. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 03:00:20PM +0100, Alan Bartlett wrote: On 07/06/2008, Scott Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before I go ahead, Ralph, would you look at the latest version http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/vserver.html and let me know if you consider the first few paragraphs about the kernel adequate for CentOS needs? Very first link (http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/centoskvm) doesn't point to anywhere sensible. Now it does. I was having some link editing problems. It's a bit different than our wiki at work. -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Anya: Men like sports. I'm sure of it. Xander: Yes. Men like sports. Men watch the action movie, they eat of the beef, and they enjoy to look at the bosoms. A thousand years of avenging our wrongs, and that's all you've learned? ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration
On 07/06/2008, Scott Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 03:00:20PM +0100, Alan Bartlett wrote: Very first link (http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/centoskvm) doesn't point to anywhere sensible. Now it does. I was having some link editing problems. It's a bit different than our wiki at work. Still points to the Road Runner site displaying [quote] *Sorry, the page you requested was not found. * Please go to our web site http://www.rr.com/rdrunto find out more about the Road Runner service which connects its customers' home PCs to the Internet at unparalleled speeds. [/quote] for me. D'oh. Alan. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 03:15:43PM +0100, Alan Bartlett wrote: On 07/06/2008, Scott Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still points to the Road Runner site displaying [quote] Sorry, the page you requested was not found. Please go to our web site to find out more about the Road Runner service which connects its customers' home PCs to the Internet at unparalleled speeds. [/quote] for me. D'oh. Did you refresh your browser? That first link now points to my KVM article on the wiki. -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Willow: The only solution is the final solution. Xander: Nuke the school? I like that. Willow: Not quite. Exorcism. Cordelia: Are you crazy? I saw that movie. Even the priest died. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration
On 07/06/2008, Scott Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 03:15:43PM +0100, Alan Bartlett wrote: Still points to the Road Runner site displaying [quote] Sorry, the page you requested was not found. Please go to our web site to find out more about the Road Runner service which connects its customers' home PCs to the Internet at unparalleled speeds. [/quote] for me. D'oh. Did you refresh your browser? That first link now points to my KVM article on the wiki. Yep. And still no-go for me. Anyone else care to comment before I get Scott to pull out the rest of his hair? Alan. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Alan Bartlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 07/06/2008, Scott Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 03:15:43PM +0100, Alan Bartlett wrote: Still points to the Road Runner site displaying [quote] Sorry, the page you requested was not found. Please go to our web site to find out more about the Road Runner service which connects its customers' home PCs to the Internet at unparalleled speeds. [/quote] for me. D'oh. Did you refresh your browser? That first link now points to my KVM article on the wiki. Yep. And still no-go for me. Anyone else care to comment before I get Scott to pull out the rest of his hair? Alan. Working fine for me -- pointing to his Centos Wiki article... (saving Scott's hair) Akemi ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration
Alan Bartlett wrote: On 07/06/2008, Scott Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 03:15:43PM +0100, Alan Bartlett wrote: Still points to the Road Runner site displaying [quote] Sorry, the page you requested was not found. Please go to our web site to find out more about the Road Runner service which connects its customers' home PCs to the Internet at unparalleled speeds. [/quote] for me. D'oh. Did you refresh your browser? That first link now points to my KVM article on the wiki. Yep. And still no-go for me. Anyone else care to comment before I get Scott to pull out the rest of his hair? Alan. Doesn't work for me either Alan. We are talking about the *KVM's* link in the first papa pointing here: http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/centoskvm Gives: Sorry, the page you requested was not found. Maybe the Interwebby is just a bit slow in the UK at finding pages today :D ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Ned Slider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Bartlett wrote: On 07/06/2008, Scott Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 03:15:43PM +0100, Alan Bartlett wrote: Still points to the Road Runner site displaying [quote] Sorry, the page you requested was not found. Please go to our web site to find out more about the Road Runner service which connects its customers' home PCs to the Internet at unparalleled speeds. [/quote] for me. D'oh. Did you refresh your browser? That first link now points to my KVM article on the wiki. Yep. And still no-go for me. Anyone else care to comment before I get Scott to pull out the rest of his hair? Doesn't work for me either Alan. We are talking about the *KVM's* link in the first papa pointing here: http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/centoskvm Gives: Sorry, the page you requested was not found. Maybe the Interwebby is just a bit slow in the UK at finding pages today :D Gentlemen /Englishmen, This is because you are looking at Scott's original page. I am checking his CentOS Wiki article at: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Virtualization/Vserver Akemi ;-) ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration
On 07/06/2008, Ned Slider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't work for me either Alan. We are talking about the *KVM's* link in the first papa pointing here: http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/centoskvm Gives: Sorry, the page you requested was not found. Maybe the Interwebby is just a bit slow in the UK at finding pages today :D Guess Akemi is looking at http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Virtualization/Vserver whilst Ned and I are looking at the URL he quoted above. Now, considering Ned I took that URL from Scott message to Ralph, who is right and who is D'oh? (Semi-rhetorical question.) Alan. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 04:16:09PM +0100, Ned Slider wrote: http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/centoskvm Gives: Sorry, the page you requested was not found. Maybe the Interwebby is just a bit slow in the UK at finding pages today :D That link isn't even in the document now. The only rr.com link is at the very end, to the original version of the vserver article. Akemi-san, I don't know if it was you who fixed the first part--the warning thing, but if so, aikawarazu, arigatou gozaimasu. -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Joyce: But maybe, we could spend some time together soon? Some night when I'm not being held hostage by a raving psychotic. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 08:39:22AM -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote: http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/centoskvm Gives: Sorry, the page you requested was not found. Maybe the Interwebby is just a bit slow in the UK at finding pages today :D Gentlemen /Englishmen, This is because you are looking at Scott's original page. I am checking his CentOS Wiki article at: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Virtualization/Vserver Akemi ;-) Oops, so they were. I just fixed that one too, glad you folks caught it. -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Faith: Isn't it crazy how slayin' just always makes you hungry and horny? Buffy: Well... sometimes I crave a nonfat yogurt afterwards. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Scott Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Akemi-san, I don't know if it was you who fixed the first part--the warning thing, but if so, aikawarazu, arigatou gozaimasu. -- Scott Robbins I did not touch a thing. Click on the info, you will find who the culprit is :-D Akemi ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration
Manuel Wolfshant wrote: vserver is quite popular, especially among debian admins and even among hosting companies, so I am very much in favor of publishing this article. Has anyone made contact with the admin / packager at the mentioned repo ? -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Karanbir Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Manuel Wolfshant wrote: vserver is quite popular, especially among debian admins and even among hosting companies, so I am very much in favor of publishing this article. Has anyone made contact with the admin / packager at the mentioned repo ? Good question! I have just dropped him a note, and invited him to this discussion. Take care, Daniel ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration
Hi Scott, On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Scott Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've recently documented simple use of a VServer with CentOS host and guest. toracat@ said that it might be worthwhile putting on the wiki. Hmmm, this requires a modified or a non-CentOS kernel. Do we really want to start recommending such kernels? Take care, Daniel ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Scott Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I mentioned, I would begin the article with something similar to the beginning of the custom kernel article, with dire warnings. However, if you and/or the other powers that be feel it is almost advocating something that has risks, I certainly understand that. Well, if there is a lot of interest in having container-type of virtualization. It might be interesting to see which of the various alternatives (linux-vserver or openvz) looks best, and see if we can provide it through e.g. the plus repository. Of course, this would require a volunteer who is willing to maintain such a set of patches against the kernel. But if someone is willing to do this, it can profit from CentOS quality assurance, and guarantee good compatibility with CentOS. Take care, Daniel ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration
Just a quick note for anyone who hadn't looked at the article but will later do so. Re Daniel's point, that it does encourage the somewhat dangerous custom kernel, I've edited it slightly. At this point, I suspect that it won't be approved, because of the kernel issue, so I've also, in the editing, used a bit of first person. If people did wind up thinking it should be included anyway, I can very easily change that. Once again, thank you for your time and consideration. As it's sometimes difficult to correctly interpret the tone of an email, let me emphasize that I am not at all bothered by Daniel's reluctance--he made a very important point about the kernel, one which I hadn't sufficiently emphasized in the original page. My feeling is that even if it does only stay on my own website, the point about the kernel should be made, hence the editing. -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration
On 05/29/2008 06:13 AM, Scott Robbins wrote: Just a quick note for anyone who hadn't looked at the article but will later do so. Re Daniel's point, that it does encourage the somewhat dangerous custom kernel, I've edited it slightly. At this point, I suspect that it won't be approved, because of the kernel issue, so I've also, in the editing, used a bit of first person. If people did wind up thinking it should be included anyway, I can very easily change that. Once again, thank you for your time and consideration. As it's sometimes difficult to correctly interpret the tone of an email, let me emphasize that I am not at all bothered by Daniel's reluctance--he made a very important point about the kernel, one which I hadn't sufficiently emphasized in the original page. My feeling is that even if it does only stay on my own website, the point about the kernel should be made, hence the editing. vserver is quite popular, especially among debian admins and even among hosting companies, so I am very much in favor of publishing this article. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Scott Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've recently documented simple use of a VServer with CentOS host and guest. toracat@ said that it might be worthwhile putting on the wiki. The present article is located at http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/vserver.html If it does get to the wiki, I would remove the fedora section and also add a notice at the beginning of the article with dire warnings about using a non-stock kernel. (I would probably copy the warning on red background from http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Custom_Kernel) Thank you for your consideration. Sincerely, -- Scott Robbins Ralph, If / when you set up this page and give edit rights to Scott, could you also add him to http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/KVM ? He wrote that article but was too shy (lazy?) to claim that. :-) Akemi / toracat ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
