Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual
2009/12/29 Mathieu Baudier mbaud...@argeo.org: More generally my question would be: if we would automate this procedure in a RPM (including the download from Broadcom website), would it count as redistribution?? I'd like to ask again because I'm afraid this question went unoticed: if we were to automate this process (including the download), would it count as redistribution in your opinion? In the light of the legal opinion that we (ELRepo) obtained, I say yes. My advice to anyone using Broadcom source code released under that restrictive license is to read it *very carefully*. I think about this scenario: A CentOS / RHEL / SL end user builds and installs the Broadcom driver on { her | his } laptop by following Milos' guide. Some months later, the laptop is stolen and is eventually used in some criminal activity. In the course of the investigation of the subsequent crime, it is discovered that the laptop (using the Broadcom driver) was a tool in the crime. The victim (let's assume it is an Uncle Sam based multi-national organisation) promptly makes a claim against Broadcom. Broadcom, as a result of that license which the above end user has agreed to by building and installing the driver, promptly makes an equivalent claim *plus* all of its fee, costs, etc, against the end user. Very nasty for the end user. (Milos' however is quite safe. He has just clearly explained how to install the driver and not provided a binary copy to *anyone*.) Anyone concerned with the terms and clauses of that Broadcom license should obtain professional legal advice. Regards, Alan. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual
Am 28.12.09 20:20, schrieb Milos Blazevic: The only thing I'm not so sure about is whether or not it'd be good idea for the page maintainter(s) to be denoted. Personally, I have nothing against naming myself as the maintainter, although, I believe it'd be wrong not to name other people who contributed, esp. Alan Bartlett, it's just that I don't feel invited to speak in their (his) name without their (his) consent. Well, most of the page comes from you, so please take credit for it (the little last changed by at the bottom of the page changes). It's not needed, but if you want to - go ahead and put your name there. Ralph ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual
More generally my question would be: if we would automate this procedure in a RPM (including the download from Broadcom website), would it count as redistribution?? I'd like to ask again because I'm afraid this question went unoticed: if we were to automate this process (including the download), would it count as redistribution in your opinion? ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual
2009/12/28 Milos Blazevic milos.blaze...@sbb.rs: The only thing I'm not so sure about is whether or not it'd be good idea for the page maintainter(s) to be denoted. Personally, I have nothing against naming myself as the maintainter, although, I believe it'd be wrong not to name other people who contributed, esp. Alan Bartlett, it's just that I don't feel invited to speak in their (his) name without their (his) consent. Milos, You have created that page and I assume, if it requires modification with the passage of time, you will also maintain it. So please take the credit for it. Others with global edit rights will inevitably make little adjustments but it's still your page. Alan. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual
I also think wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless/Broadcom would definitely be the way to go. Also I would like to note that 'modprobe' worked fine for me. And to correct compile error I've edited src/include/typedefs.h by adding '#define TYPEDEF_BOOL' right after header comment. Merry Christmas everyone! :) Yours faithfully, Gytis Repecka www.repecka.com 2009 Gruodis 25, 13:51, Pen, Dag Wieers rašė: On Thu, 24 Dec 2009, Milos Blazevic wrote: I've made the change and updated the Making wireless work page with the new manual... Hi Milos, Looking at the changes to the document, the procedure for this one type of Wireless NICs is much more complicated than for all the others together. So I would prefer if this procedure for building the driver becomes part of a separate page and the overview page simply gets a link to it. Something like: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless/Broadcom Imagine we have 5 more such procedures, that page would become a nightmare to skim/navigate. Kind regards, -- -- dag wieers, d...@wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual
Mathieu Baudier wrote: OK then, I'll take your sillence as an approval of the manual and remove the DRAFT tag and move it to *Making Wireless work on your laptop (or desktop) *So if anyone has any final suggestions or comments I'd be happy to hear it before this goes official. Sorry, for not testing sooner. I took some time this morning and could update my driver using the latest kernel update! Here are my comments: 1. There is a typo in: mkdir -P /usr/local/src/hybrid-wl mkdir takes the -p option (lower case) 2. I could not perform: modprobe wl.ko but: insmod wl.ko works 3. I did not need to define all the aliases, neither remove all b43 stuff (I'm on a CentOS x86_64) Since I prefer not to diverge too much from the base system, I left it like that. 4. Interestingly I tried to define TYPEDEF_BOOL via the command line (which would avoid the modification of the files): make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ M=$BUILD_DIR MODFLAGS=-DTYPEDEF_BOOL It builds without error, and the module can be inserted, but then it is not working (wlan networks are not found) More generally my question would be: if we would automate this procedure in a RPM (including the download from Broadcom website), would it count as redistribution?? Please find below for reference the script and patch I used for my testing. (please note: that the module is built in a temporary directory in order to keep the source directory read-only) Thanks for the hard work! Mathieu ## ## broadcom.sh ## #!/bin/sh WL_VERSION=v5.10.91.9.3 WL_ARCH=x86_64 SRC_DIR=/usr/local/src/broadcom-hybrid-wl-$WL_ARCH-$WL_VERSION BUILD_DIR=/tmp/wlbuild # Step 1: Prerequisites sudo /sbin/lspci | grep Broadcom sudo yum install kernel-headers kernel-devel gcc # Step 2: Retrieve sources sudo mkdir -p $SRC_DIR sudo cp -v broadcom-wl.patch $SRC_DIR cd /tmp wget -N http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/hybrid-portsrc-$WL_ARCH-$WL_VERSION.tar.gz cd $SRC_DIR sudo tar -xzf /tmp/hybrid-portsrc-$WL_ARCH-$WL_VERSION.tar.gz # Step 3: Build as unprivileged user mkdir $BUILD_DIR cp -r $SRC_DIR/* $BUILD_DIR cd $BUILD_DIR #make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ M=$BUILD_DIR MODFLAGS=-DTYPEDEF_BOOL patch -Np1 $SRC_DIR/broadcom-wl.patch make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ M=`pwd` strip --strip-debug $BUILD_DIR/wl.ko # Step 4a: Check that the new module can be loaded #sudo /sbin/rmmod bcm43xx #sudo /sbin/rmmod b43 #sudo /sbin/rmmod b43legacy #sudo /sbin/rmmod ndiswrapper #sudo /sbin/modprobe ieee80211_crypt_tkip #sudo /sbin/rmmod wl sudo /sbin/insmod $BUILD_DIR/wl.ko #sudo /sbin/service NetworkManager restart # Step 4b: Install sudo cp -v $BUILD_DIR/wl.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/extra/ sudo /sbin/depmod $(uname -r) sudo /sbin/modprobe wl #sudo /sbin/service NetworkManager restart # Clean up rm -vf /tmp/hybrid-portsrc-*.tar.gz rm -rf $BUILD_DIR ## ## broadcom-wl.patch ## diff -Naur hybrid-portsrc/src/include/typedefs.h hybrid-portsrc-mod/src/include/typedefs.h --- hybrid-portsrc/src/include/typedefs.h 2009-09-16 00:25:27.0 +0200 +++ hybrid-portsrc-mod/src/include/typedefs.h 2009-12-23 12:32:15.0 +0100 @@ -65,11 +65,11 @@ #ifdef USE_TYPEDEF_DEFAULTS #undef USE_TYPEDEF_DEFAULTS - +/* #ifndef TYPEDEF_BOOL typedef unsigned char bool; #endif - +*/ #ifndef TYPEDEF_UCHAR typedef unsigned charuchar; #endif ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs Thanks for the correction (with the 'mkdir')! I've made the change and updated the Making wireless work page with the new manual... Curious that you have to use 'insmod' to load the module, instead 'modprobe'. Funny thing is that I've been using the same procedure every time after upgrading the kernel on the same /CentOS 5.3-5.4 x86_64/ since August... when I first installed this driver, and as far as I recall, modprobe always worked. The excerpt from the 'modprobe' manual states: /*insmod* is a trivial program to insert a module into the kernel: if the filename is a hyphen, the module is taken from standard input. Most users will want to use modprobe(8) instead, which is cleverer. /In the event we see some more users experiencing this issue, it would surely be a good idea to add the note to the manual. The draft will be removed from my CentOS Wiki home page shortly. -- *Srdacan pozdrav,* *Milos Blazevic* Cert. No: 605008720421478 Email: milos.blaze...@sbb.rs mailto:milos.blaze...@sbb.rs Tel: 064/301 45 78 ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual
2009/12/22 Milos Blazevic milos.blaze...@sbb.rs: OK then, I'll take your sillence as an approval of the manual and remove the DRAFT tag and move it to *Making Wireless work on your laptop (or desktop) *So if anyone has any final suggestions or comments I'd be happy to hear it before this goes official. O.k. Milos, please go for it. :-) Once the guide is in place, I'm sure that a little spot of polishing will eventually occur. I would suggest that it is linked here -- http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless#head-320d6fcf09b7e16e0b15d19ef76adcb023a95938 Ralph -- What's your view? Any opinion, please? Regards, Alan. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual
OK then, I'll take your sillence as an approval of the manual and remove the DRAFT tag and move it to *Making Wireless work on your laptop (or desktop) *So if anyone has any final suggestions or comments I'd be happy to hear it before this goes official. Sorry, for not testing sooner. I took some time this morning and could update my driver using the latest kernel update! Here are my comments: 1. There is a typo in: mkdir -P /usr/local/src/hybrid-wl mkdir takes the -p option (lower case) 2. I could not perform: modprobe wl.ko but: insmod wl.ko works 3. I did not need to define all the aliases, neither remove all b43 stuff (I'm on a CentOS x86_64) Since I prefer not to diverge too much from the base system, I left it like that. 4. Interestingly I tried to define TYPEDEF_BOOL via the command line (which would avoid the modification of the files): make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ M=$BUILD_DIR MODFLAGS=-DTYPEDEF_BOOL It builds without error, and the module can be inserted, but then it is not working (wlan networks are not found) More generally my question would be: if we would automate this procedure in a RPM (including the download from Broadcom website), would it count as redistribution?? Please find below for reference the script and patch I used for my testing. (please note: that the module is built in a temporary directory in order to keep the source directory read-only) Thanks for the hard work! Mathieu ## ## broadcom.sh ## #!/bin/sh WL_VERSION=v5.10.91.9.3 WL_ARCH=x86_64 SRC_DIR=/usr/local/src/broadcom-hybrid-wl-$WL_ARCH-$WL_VERSION BUILD_DIR=/tmp/wlbuild # Step 1: Prerequisites sudo /sbin/lspci | grep Broadcom sudo yum install kernel-headers kernel-devel gcc # Step 2: Retrieve sources sudo mkdir -p $SRC_DIR sudo cp -v broadcom-wl.patch $SRC_DIR cd /tmp wget -N http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/hybrid-portsrc-$WL_ARCH-$WL_VERSION.tar.gz cd $SRC_DIR sudo tar -xzf /tmp/hybrid-portsrc-$WL_ARCH-$WL_VERSION.tar.gz # Step 3: Build as unprivileged user mkdir $BUILD_DIR cp -r $SRC_DIR/* $BUILD_DIR cd $BUILD_DIR #make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ M=$BUILD_DIR MODFLAGS=-DTYPEDEF_BOOL patch -Np1 $SRC_DIR/broadcom-wl.patch make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ M=`pwd` strip --strip-debug $BUILD_DIR/wl.ko # Step 4a: Check that the new module can be loaded #sudo /sbin/rmmod bcm43xx #sudo /sbin/rmmod b43 #sudo /sbin/rmmod b43legacy #sudo /sbin/rmmod ndiswrapper #sudo /sbin/modprobe ieee80211_crypt_tkip #sudo /sbin/rmmod wl sudo /sbin/insmod $BUILD_DIR/wl.ko #sudo /sbin/service NetworkManager restart # Step 4b: Install sudo cp -v $BUILD_DIR/wl.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/extra/ sudo /sbin/depmod $(uname -r) sudo /sbin/modprobe wl #sudo /sbin/service NetworkManager restart # Clean up rm -vf /tmp/hybrid-portsrc-*.tar.gz rm -rf $BUILD_DIR ## ## broadcom-wl.patch ## diff -Naur hybrid-portsrc/src/include/typedefs.h hybrid-portsrc-mod/src/include/typedefs.h --- hybrid-portsrc/src/include/typedefs.h 2009-09-16 00:25:27.0 +0200 +++ hybrid-portsrc-mod/src/include/typedefs.h 2009-12-23 12:32:15.0 +0100 @@ -65,11 +65,11 @@ #ifdef USE_TYPEDEF_DEFAULTS #undef USE_TYPEDEF_DEFAULTS - +/* #ifndef TYPEDEF_BOOL typedef unsigned char bool; #endif - +*/ #ifndef TYPEDEF_UCHAR typedef unsigned char uchar; #endif ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual
Hi, this looks fine for me, thanks for your efforts! I don't have the laptop with the Broadcom card here but I'll test your procedure point by point in a few days when I'll upgrade the kernel there. Just one remark: I had to deactivate the 'network' service and activate the 'NetworkManager' service in order to easily have wireless working. I also do the them on my other laptop (which thankfully doesn't have a Broadcom card :). Is there another (simple) way? Or should this be added somewhere as well? Cheers, Mathieu On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 01:40, Milos Blazevic milos.blaze...@sbb.rs wrote: Hi all, consider the manual completed. It's still only published as a draft on my CentOS Wiki homepage http://wiki.centos.org/MilosBlazevic?action=show so I was hoping for some additional critical input and comments (if you find any typos, anything I missed, suggestions ...) before actually publishing this manual on the Making wireless work page. Alan has already given some very nice remarks and suggestions which I happily followed and incorporated. Thanks Alan! Also, do you think this should be published on http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless or a separate page linked to the former? Regards, Milos -- * * ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual
Hi all, consider the manual completed. It's still only published as a draft on my CentOS Wiki homepage http://wiki.centos.org/MilosBlazevic?action=show so I was hoping for some additional critical input and comments (if you find any typos, anything I missed, suggestions ...) before actually publishing this manual on the Making wireless work page. Alan has already given some very nice remarks and suggestions which I happily followed and incorporated. Thanks Alan! Also, do you think this should be published on http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless or a separate page linked to the former? Regards, Milos -- * * ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual
It's just that I don't seem to have privileges to create one... am I doing something wrong, or should I ask Ralph to grant me permissions to do this? Go ahead, it's there (hey, other people here also *could* do this) =:) Ralph ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual
2009/12/14 Ralph Angenendt ralph.angene...@gmail.com: It's just that I don't seem to have privileges to create one... am I doing something wrong, or should I ask Ralph to grant me permissions to do this? Go ahead, it's there (hey, other people here also *could* do this) =:) Ralph We like to make *you* feel wanted! :-P Alan. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual
Hello everybody, actually Ubuntu also distributes Broadcom's driver in their default repositories, so these chipsets work out-of-the-box. I'm always ready to collaborate on tutorials, e-mail me. Maybe we could even write a shell script which could dowload and install Broadcom's driver according to our instructions. Yours faithfully, Gytis Repecka www.repecka.com 2009 Gruodis 12, 21:03, Šeš, Mathieu Baudier rašė: Hi, a few weeks ago, I got the broadcom wireless working on a MacBook Pro (2008) running CentOS 5.4 using more or less the same approach as Gytis. I'll be happy to retest the whole generic procedure on this hardware. What surprises me though is that RPMFusion distributes the kmod-wl for Fedora (I use it on the same hardware with Fedora 11 and 12): http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/releases/12/Everything/x86_64/os/repoview/kmod-wl.html http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/releases/12/Everything/x86_64/os/repoview/kmod-wl-2.6.31.5-127.fc12.x86_64.html http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/releases/12/Everything/x86_64/os/repoview/broadcom-wl.html Do you think they could work around this license issue? Or they are not aware of it? (would suprise me) Maybe it would be worth asking them? Cheers, Mathieu ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual
Hello (again), I saw I've been granted the rights to edit the page. Thanks Ralph! I'd like to thank all for supporting me on this matter. And yes Ralph, good point about sending from the address I registered with,... never really thought about it. In the next few days I'll be editing the wiki page so the manual will become available and all critical input is welcome - we all want a comprehenssive manual, don't we? Also, I personally think we can't presume to bind this particular WLAN card to a particular laptop model (in respect of the manual), and vice versa. For instance, Inspiron 1525 I'm using usually comes with several different flavors of WLAN cards - don't be surprised if you find it working with iwl1395 driver because yes, they sometimes do come with Intel wireless card. As for the drivers RPM Fusion and that no-vim-distro repos :) provide, this is the matter which the developers will certainly much better explain, especially since ELrepo developers are engaged in this discussion. Also, I myself was under the impression that Phil (NedSlider) considered thoroughly the option of building and .rpm for this driver. Regards, -- *Milos Blazevic* Signature Cert. No: 605008720421478 Email: milos.blaze...@sbb.rs mailto:milos.blaze...@sbb.rs Tel: 064/301 45 78 ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual
On 12/13/2009 01:02 PM, Milos Blazevic wrote: Hello (again), I saw I've been granted the rights to edit the page. Thanks Ralph! I'd like to thank all for supporting me on this matter. And yes Ralph, good point about sending from the address I registered with,... never really thought about it. In the next few days I'll be editing the wiki page so the manual will become available and all critical input is welcome - we all want a comprehenssive manual, don't we? Also, I personally think we can't presume to bind this particular WLAN card to a particular laptop model (in respect of the manual), and vice versa. For instance, Inspiron 1525 I'm using usually comes with several different flavors of WLAN cards - don't be surprised if you find it working with iwl1395 driver because yes, they sometimes do come with Intel wireless card. Agreed. I would think the logical location would be in the Wireless page: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless where there is already a small section near the bottom that could be replaced, or if your contribution is too large to fit conveniently on that page then do it as a separate page and link it from there. It might be a good idea to do it as a separate page in your own area first as a draft (Ralph can probably help with that?), then once this list has had a chance to review it, it can be moved to the correct location? That way we don't have draft content sitting on a finished page whilst being written, if that makes sense. As for the drivers RPM Fusion and that no-vim-distro repos :) provide, this is the matter which the developers will certainly much better explain, especially since ELrepo developers are engaged in this discussion. Also, I myself was under the impression that Phil (NedSlider) considered thoroughly the option of building and .rpm for this driver. I have no idea what the policy of others is on redistributing such content, but as others have said, when I looked at it for inclusion in ELRepo I was concerned by the terms for redistribution in the license, and sought advice from the Software Freedom Law Center. We concluded that we (ELRepo.org) couldn't redistribute it under the current terms, hence why I feel such a guide here would be hugely beneficial. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual
Hello everybody, actually I've also solved BCM problems on Dell laptop. A complete walkthough I made is posted at http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Dell/Vostro-1400 and I'm almost sure this might work for many BCM chipsets. If anybody checked this on diffrent laptops, maybe a universal tutorial could be posted at http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless. Of course if there's already a RPM package for Broadcom, would be nice to see instructions on Wiki. Yours faithfully, Gytis Repecka www.repecka.com 2009 Gruodis 11, 19:11, Pen, Alan Bartlett rašė: 2009/12/10 Milos Blazevic mil...@list-solutions.com Hi Ralph, I'm a member of CentOS forum and I've tracked problems laptop users are having with Broadcom's wireless hardware (namely, the one(s) in the subject). Under the circumstances, I had to install one of these myself back in August, which I did - after doing some googleing. Shortly after, NedSlider considered compiling the driver for ELrepo, but gave up after reviewing Broadcom's software license. Meanwhile, I've noticed quite a few people having problems with installation of this particular driver, but usually asking for help due to lack of a comprehensive manual, and thats just on forum and mailing list. The point: I've written a manual (hopefully comprehensive one), and would like to publish it on CentOS Wiki pages (CentOS on Laptops, in particular). I've already discussed this issue with Alan Bartlett, and both he and Phil (NedSlider) expressed their support. Alan also refered you as the man I should send this request to along with my Wiki login name, so you could eventually escalate my privileges on CentOS Wiki. My CentOS Wiki login name is: MilosBlazevic Regards, -- Blazevic Milos, Just giving Ralph a gentle bump -- on Milos' behalf. (It's not the time of a pre-Christmas beer festival in Germany, is it?) Alan. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual
2009/12/12 Gytis Repečka gy...@repecka.com: actually I've also solved BCM problems on Dell laptop. A complete walkthough I made is posted at http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Dell/Vostro-1400 and I'm almost sure this might work for many BCM chipsets. If anybody checked this on diffrent laptops, maybe a universal tutorial could be posted at http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless. Perhaps you could collaborate with Milos on such a guide? Of course if there's already a RPM package for Broadcom, would be nice to see instructions on Wiki. That will not happen until such time as Broadcom change their restrictive license. If (when) that does happen, ELRepo will happily provide kernel independent, kABI tracking kmod package(s) for the Broadcom wireless cards. Alan. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual
On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 15:58 +, Alan Bartlett wrote: 2009/12/12 Gytis Repečka gy...@repecka.com: actually I've also solved BCM problems on Dell laptop. A complete walkthough I made is posted at http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Dell/Vostro-1400 and I'm almost sure this might work for many BCM chipsets. If anybody checked this on diffrent laptops, maybe a universal tutorial could be posted at http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless. Perhaps you could collaborate with Milos on such a guide? Of course if there's already a RPM package for Broadcom, would be nice to see instructions on Wiki. That will not happen until such time as Broadcom change their restrictive license. If (when) that does happen, ELRepo will happily provide kernel independent, kABI tracking kmod package(s) for the Broadcom wireless cards. To follow up on Alan's comments, if you wonder why ELRepo will not create a Broadcom package for this one, then review the following section 2.3.(b) of Broadcom's LICENSE AGREEMENT (from the referenced Broadcom download): 2.3. Restriction on Distribution. Licensee shall only distribute the Software (a) under the terms of this Agreement and a copy of this Agreement accompanies such distribution, and (b) agrees to defend and indemnify Broadcom and its licensors from and against any damages, costs, liabilities, settlement amounts and/or expenses (including attorneys' fees) incurred in connection with any claim, lawsuit or action by any third party that arises or results from the use or distribution of any and all Software by the Licensee except as contemplated herein. It would be hard to imagine a more redistribution unfriendly agreement than that one. Steve ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual
Am 11.12.09 18:20, schrieb Alan Bartlett: Hmm. Having checked the mail archives, I can't find Milos' original message to the m/l. Guess I'd better delete the reference to a Germanic beer festival . . . Oh, let me just ask the same about any alcohol related festivities in the UK and we're done :) I just got the Mail via Akemi. Cheers(!) Ralph ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs