[ceph-users] Re: Pacific 16.2.14 debian Incomplete

2023-08-30 Thread Zakhar Kirpichenko
It looks much better, at least for Ubuntu focal, thanks!

/Z

On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 at 03:48, Yuri Weinstein  wrote:

> We redeployed all packages again.
>
> Please confirm that the issue is resolved.
>
> Thank you for your help and patience!
>
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 3:44 PM Zakhar Kirpichenko 
> wrote:
> >
> > Now the release email comes and the repositories are still missing
> packages. What a mess.
> >
> > /Z
> >
> > On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 at 19:27, Yuri Weinstein 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> 16.2.14 has not been released yet.
> >>
> >> Please don't do any upgrades before we send an announcement email.
> >>
> >> TIA
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 8:45 AM Reed Dier 
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > It looks like 16.2.14 was released, but it looks like in an
> incomplete way in the debian repo?
> >> >
> >> > I first noticed it because my nightly mirror snapshot picked it up,
> and showed that the majority of packages were removed, and only a handful
> had a new version.
> >> >
> >> > focal-ceph-pacific 230829 to 230830
> >> >   Arch   | Package  | Version in A
>  | Version in B
> >> > - all| ceph-grafana-dashboards  | 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > - all| ceph-mgr-cephadm | 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > ! all| ceph-mgr-dashboard   | 16.2.13-1focal
>  | 16.2.14-1focal
> >> > - all| ceph-mgr-diskprediction-local| 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > - all| ceph-mgr-k8sevents   | 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > - all| ceph-mgr-modules-core| 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > - all| ceph-mgr-rook| 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > ! all| ceph-prometheus-alerts   | 16.2.13-1focal
>  | 16.2.14-1focal
> >> > - all| cephfs-shell | 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > - all| cephfs-top   | 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > - all| libcephfs-java   | 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > ! all| python3-ceph-argparse| 16.2.13-1focal
>  | 16.2.14-1focal
> >> > ! all| python3-ceph-common  | 16.2.13-1focal
>  | 16.2.14-1focal
> >> > - amd64  | ceph | 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > ! amd64  | ceph-base| 16.2.13-1focal
>  | 16.2.14-1focal
> >> > ! amd64  | ceph-base-dbg| 16.2.13-1focal
>  | 16.2.14-1focal
> >> > - amd64  | ceph-common  | 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > - amd64  | ceph-common-dbg  | 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > - amd64  | ceph-fuse| 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > - amd64  | ceph-fuse-dbg| 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > - amd64  | ceph-immutable-object-cache  | 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > - amd64  | ceph-immutable-object-cache-dbg  | 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > - amd64  | ceph-mds | 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > - amd64  | ceph-mds-dbg | 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > - amd64  | ceph-mgr | 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > - amd64  | ceph-mgr-dbg | 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > - amd64  | ceph-mon | 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > - amd64  | ceph-mon-dbg | 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > - amd64  | ceph-osd | 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > - amd64  | ceph-osd-dbg | 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > - amd64  | ceph-resource-agents | 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > - amd64  | ceph-test| 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > - amd64  | ceph-test-dbg| 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > - amd64  | cephadm  | 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > - amd64  | cephfs-mirror| 16.2.13-1focal
>  | -
> >> > - amd64  | cephfs-mirror-dbg   

[ceph-users] Re: Pacific 16.2.14 debian Incomplete

2023-08-30 Thread Yuri Weinstein
We redeployed all packages again.

Please confirm that the issue is resolved.

Thank you for your help and patience!

On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 3:44 PM Zakhar Kirpichenko  wrote:
>
> Now the release email comes and the repositories are still missing packages. 
> What a mess.
>
> /Z
>
> On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 at 19:27, Yuri Weinstein  wrote:
>>
>> 16.2.14 has not been released yet.
>>
>> Please don't do any upgrades before we send an announcement email.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 8:45 AM Reed Dier  wrote:
>> >
>> > It looks like 16.2.14 was released, but it looks like in an incomplete way 
>> > in the debian repo?
>> >
>> > I first noticed it because my nightly mirror snapshot picked it up, and 
>> > showed that the majority of packages were removed, and only a handful had 
>> > a new version.
>> >
>> > focal-ceph-pacific 230829 to 230830
>> >   Arch   | Package  | Version in A 
>> > | Version in B
>> > - all| ceph-grafana-dashboards  | 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > - all| ceph-mgr-cephadm | 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > ! all| ceph-mgr-dashboard   | 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | 16.2.14-1focal
>> > - all| ceph-mgr-diskprediction-local| 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > - all| ceph-mgr-k8sevents   | 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > - all| ceph-mgr-modules-core| 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > - all| ceph-mgr-rook| 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > ! all| ceph-prometheus-alerts   | 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | 16.2.14-1focal
>> > - all| cephfs-shell | 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > - all| cephfs-top   | 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > - all| libcephfs-java   | 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > ! all| python3-ceph-argparse| 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | 16.2.14-1focal
>> > ! all| python3-ceph-common  | 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | 16.2.14-1focal
>> > - amd64  | ceph | 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > ! amd64  | ceph-base| 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | 16.2.14-1focal
>> > ! amd64  | ceph-base-dbg| 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | 16.2.14-1focal
>> > - amd64  | ceph-common  | 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > - amd64  | ceph-common-dbg  | 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > - amd64  | ceph-fuse| 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > - amd64  | ceph-fuse-dbg| 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > - amd64  | ceph-immutable-object-cache  | 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > - amd64  | ceph-immutable-object-cache-dbg  | 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > - amd64  | ceph-mds | 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > - amd64  | ceph-mds-dbg | 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > - amd64  | ceph-mgr | 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > - amd64  | ceph-mgr-dbg | 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > - amd64  | ceph-mon | 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > - amd64  | ceph-mon-dbg | 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > - amd64  | ceph-osd | 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > - amd64  | ceph-osd-dbg | 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > - amd64  | ceph-resource-agents | 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > - amd64  | ceph-test| 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > - amd64  | ceph-test-dbg| 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > - amd64  | cephadm  | 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > - amd64  | cephfs-mirror| 16.2.13-1focal   
>> > | -
>> > - amd64  | cephfs-mirror-dbg| 16.2.13-1focal   
>> >   

[ceph-users] Re: Pacific 16.2.14 debian Incomplete

2023-08-30 Thread Zakhar Kirpichenko
Now the release email comes and the repositories are still missing
packages. What a mess.

/Z

On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 at 19:27, Yuri Weinstein  wrote:

> 16.2.14 has not been released yet.
>
> Please don't do any upgrades before we send an announcement email.
>
> TIA
>
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 8:45 AM Reed Dier  wrote:
> >
> > It looks like 16.2.14 was released, but it looks like in an incomplete
> way in the debian repo?
> >
> > I first noticed it because my nightly mirror snapshot picked it up, and
> showed that the majority of packages were removed, and only a handful had a
> new version.
> >
> > focal-ceph-pacific 230829 to 230830
> >   Arch   | Package  | Version in A
>| Version in B
> > - all| ceph-grafana-dashboards  | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - all| ceph-mgr-cephadm | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > ! all| ceph-mgr-dashboard   | 16.2.13-1focal
>| 16.2.14-1focal
> > - all| ceph-mgr-diskprediction-local| 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - all| ceph-mgr-k8sevents   | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - all| ceph-mgr-modules-core| 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - all| ceph-mgr-rook| 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > ! all| ceph-prometheus-alerts   | 16.2.13-1focal
>| 16.2.14-1focal
> > - all| cephfs-shell | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - all| cephfs-top   | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - all| libcephfs-java   | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > ! all| python3-ceph-argparse| 16.2.13-1focal
>| 16.2.14-1focal
> > ! all| python3-ceph-common  | 16.2.13-1focal
>| 16.2.14-1focal
> > - amd64  | ceph | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > ! amd64  | ceph-base| 16.2.13-1focal
>| 16.2.14-1focal
> > ! amd64  | ceph-base-dbg| 16.2.13-1focal
>| 16.2.14-1focal
> > - amd64  | ceph-common  | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-common-dbg  | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-fuse| 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-fuse-dbg| 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-immutable-object-cache  | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-immutable-object-cache-dbg  | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-mds | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-mds-dbg | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-mgr | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-mgr-dbg | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-mon | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-mon-dbg | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-osd | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-osd-dbg | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-resource-agents | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-test| 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-test-dbg| 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | cephadm  | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | cephfs-mirror| 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | cephfs-mirror-dbg| 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | libcephfs-dev| 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | libcephfs-jni| 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | libcephfs2   | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | libcephfs2-dbg   | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | libjaeger| 16.2.13-1focal
>   

[ceph-users] Re: Pacific 16.2.14 debian Incomplete

2023-08-30 Thread Laura Flores
Hey users,

To follow up on my previous email, on behalf of the Ceph team, we apologize
for any confusion about pre-released packages. We are working on
streamlining the release process to avoid this next time.

- Laura

On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 2:14 PM Paul Mezzanini  wrote:

> -> "At the minimum, publishing the versioned repos at
> $repourl/debian-16.2.14 but not cutting the symlink over for
> $repourl/debian-pacific until “ready” seems like a very easy and useful
> release process improvement to prevent these specific issues going forward."
>
> This should be standard procedure for new releases.  Numerous linux
> distributions already operate this way to make sure mirrors get copes
> before the thundering herds do upgrades.
>
>
> --
>
> Paul Mezzanini
> Platform Engineer III
> Research Computing
>
> Rochester Institute of Technology
>
>  “End users is a description, not a goal.”
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: Reed Dier 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 1:16 PM
> To: Yuri Weinstein
> Cc: ceph-users
> Subject: [ceph-users] Re: Pacific 16.2.14 debian Incomplete
>
> This is more the sentiment that I was hoping to convey.
>
> Sure, I have my finger on the pulse of the mailing list and the packages
> coming down the pipe, but assuming that everyone does and/or will is not a
> safe assumption.
> At the minimum, publishing the versioned repos at $repourl/debian-16.2.14
> but not cutting the symlink over for  $repourl/debian-pacific until “ready”
> seems like a very easy and useful release process improvement to prevent
> these specific issues going forward.
>
> Likewise, $repourl/rpm-pacific is already pointing to $repourl/rpm-16.2.14
> as well, so its not a debian specific issue, albeit it looks like there
> were no issues with missing packages on el8.
> But the packages were still “pre-released” before we are supposed to use
> them.
>
> Anything making it to $repourl/{deb,rpm}-$named_release should be “safe.”
> Because the documentation<
> https://docs.ceph.com/en/pacific/install/get-packages/#configure-repositories-manually>
> uses the named repos, as it should, and right now the documentation is
> effectively broken.
>
> ubuntu@mini-pacific:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ceph.list ; sudo apt
> update | grep ceph ; sudo apt install ceph ceph-osd ceph-mon ceph-mgr
> deb https://download.ceph.com/debian-pacific/ focal main
>
> WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in
> scripts.
>
> Hit:5 https://download.ceph.com/debian-pacific focal InRelease
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
> or been moved out of Incoming.
> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
>
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>  ceph-mgr : Depends: ceph-base (= 15.2.17-0ubuntu0.20.04.4) but it is not
> going to be installed
>  ceph-mon : Depends: ceph-base (= 15.2.17-0ubuntu0.20.04.4) but it is not
> going to be installed
>  ceph-osd : PreDepends: ceph-common (= 15.2.17-0ubuntu0.20.04.4) but it is
> not going to be installed
> Depends: ceph-base (= 15.2.17-0ubuntu0.20.04.4) but it is not
> going to be installed
> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
>
> Reed
>
> On Aug 30, 2023, at 11:33 AM, Burkhard Linke <
> burkhard.li...@computational.bio.uni-giessen.de burkhard.li...@computational.bio.uni-giessen.de>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On 8/30/23 18:26, Yuri Weinstein wrote:
> 16.2.14 has not been released yet.
>
> Please don't do any upgrades before we send an announcement email.
>
>
> Then stop pushing packets before the announcement. This is not the first
> time this problem occurred. And given your answer I'm afraid it won't be
> the last time.
>
> It can't be that hard to coordinate releases.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Burkhard
>
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[ceph-users] Re: Pacific 16.2.14 debian Incomplete

2023-08-30 Thread Paul Mezzanini
-> "At the minimum, publishing the versioned repos at $repourl/debian-16.2.14 
but not cutting the symlink over for  $repourl/debian-pacific until “ready” 
seems like a very easy and useful release process improvement to prevent these 
specific issues going forward."

This should be standard procedure for new releases.  Numerous linux 
distributions already operate this way to make sure mirrors get copes before 
the thundering herds do upgrades. 


--

Paul Mezzanini
Platform Engineer III
Research Computing

Rochester Institute of Technology

 “End users is a description, not a goal.”






From: Reed Dier 
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 1:16 PM
To: Yuri Weinstein
Cc: ceph-users
Subject: [ceph-users] Re: Pacific 16.2.14 debian Incomplete

This is more the sentiment that I was hoping to convey.

Sure, I have my finger on the pulse of the mailing list and the packages coming 
down the pipe, but assuming that everyone does and/or will is not a safe 
assumption.
At the minimum, publishing the versioned repos at $repourl/debian-16.2.14 but 
not cutting the symlink over for  $repourl/debian-pacific until “ready” seems 
like a very easy and useful release process improvement to prevent these 
specific issues going forward.

Likewise, $repourl/rpm-pacific is already pointing to $repourl/rpm-16.2.14 as 
well, so its not a debian specific issue, albeit it looks like there were no 
issues with missing packages on el8.
But the packages were still “pre-released” before we are supposed to use them.

Anything making it to $repourl/{deb,rpm}-$named_release should be “safe.”
Because the 
documentation<https://docs.ceph.com/en/pacific/install/get-packages/#configure-repositories-manually>
 uses the named repos, as it should, and right now the documentation is 
effectively broken.

ubuntu@mini-pacific:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ceph.list ; sudo apt update 
| grep ceph ; sudo apt install ceph ceph-osd ceph-mon ceph-mgr
deb https://download.ceph.com/debian-pacific/ focal main

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

Hit:5 https://download.ceph.com/debian-pacific focal InRelease
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 ceph-mgr : Depends: ceph-base (= 15.2.17-0ubuntu0.20.04.4) but it is not going 
to be installed
 ceph-mon : Depends: ceph-base (= 15.2.17-0ubuntu0.20.04.4) but it is not going 
to be installed
 ceph-osd : PreDepends: ceph-common (= 15.2.17-0ubuntu0.20.04.4) but it is not 
going to be installed
Depends: ceph-base (= 15.2.17-0ubuntu0.20.04.4) but it is not going 
to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

Reed

On Aug 30, 2023, at 11:33 AM, Burkhard Linke 
mailto:burkhard.li...@computational.bio.uni-giessen.de>>
 wrote:

Hi,

On 8/30/23 18:26, Yuri Weinstein wrote:
16.2.14 has not been released yet.

Please don't do any upgrades before we send an announcement email.


Then stop pushing packets before the announcement. This is not the first time 
this problem occurred. And given your answer I'm afraid it won't be the last 
time.

It can't be that hard to coordinate releases.


Regards,

Burkhard

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[ceph-users] Re: Pacific 16.2.14 debian Incomplete

2023-08-30 Thread Laura Flores
Hi,

We are still in progress creating the release. Any artifacts are not yet
officially released. We will send the usual blog post and email when
everything's ready.

- Laura

On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 1:16 PM Zakhar Kirpichenko  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Please note that some packages have been pushed for Ubuntu focal as well,
> but the repo is incomplete. I think it would be good if such things could
> be avoided in the future.
>
> /Z
>
> On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 at 19:27, Yuri Weinstein  wrote:
>
> > 16.2.14 has not been released yet.
> >
> > Please don't do any upgrades before we send an announcement email.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 8:45 AM Reed Dier  wrote:
> > >
> > > It looks like 16.2.14 was released, but it looks like in an incomplete
> > way in the debian repo?
> > >
> > > I first noticed it because my nightly mirror snapshot picked it up, and
> > showed that the majority of packages were removed, and only a handful
> had a
> > new version.
> > >
> > > focal-ceph-pacific 230829 to 230830
> > >   Arch   | Package  | Version in A
> >| Version in B
> > > - all| ceph-grafana-dashboards  | 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > - all| ceph-mgr-cephadm | 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > ! all| ceph-mgr-dashboard   | 16.2.13-1focal
> >| 16.2.14-1focal
> > > - all| ceph-mgr-diskprediction-local| 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > - all| ceph-mgr-k8sevents   | 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > - all| ceph-mgr-modules-core| 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > - all| ceph-mgr-rook| 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > ! all| ceph-prometheus-alerts   | 16.2.13-1focal
> >| 16.2.14-1focal
> > > - all| cephfs-shell | 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > - all| cephfs-top   | 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > - all| libcephfs-java   | 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > ! all| python3-ceph-argparse| 16.2.13-1focal
> >| 16.2.14-1focal
> > > ! all| python3-ceph-common  | 16.2.13-1focal
> >| 16.2.14-1focal
> > > - amd64  | ceph | 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > ! amd64  | ceph-base| 16.2.13-1focal
> >| 16.2.14-1focal
> > > ! amd64  | ceph-base-dbg| 16.2.13-1focal
> >| 16.2.14-1focal
> > > - amd64  | ceph-common  | 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > - amd64  | ceph-common-dbg  | 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > - amd64  | ceph-fuse| 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > - amd64  | ceph-fuse-dbg| 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > - amd64  | ceph-immutable-object-cache  | 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > - amd64  | ceph-immutable-object-cache-dbg  | 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > - amd64  | ceph-mds | 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > - amd64  | ceph-mds-dbg | 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > - amd64  | ceph-mgr | 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > - amd64  | ceph-mgr-dbg | 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > - amd64  | ceph-mon | 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > - amd64  | ceph-mon-dbg | 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > - amd64  | ceph-osd | 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > - amd64  | ceph-osd-dbg | 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > - amd64  | ceph-resource-agents | 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > - amd64  | ceph-test| 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > - amd64  | ceph-test-dbg| 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > - amd64  | cephadm  | 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > - amd64  | cephfs-mirror| 16.2.13-1focal
> >| -
> > > - amd64  | cephfs-mirror-dbg| 16.2.13-1focal
> > 

[ceph-users] Re: Pacific 16.2.14 debian Incomplete

2023-08-30 Thread Zakhar Kirpichenko
Hi,

Please note that some packages have been pushed for Ubuntu focal as well,
but the repo is incomplete. I think it would be good if such things could
be avoided in the future.

/Z

On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 at 19:27, Yuri Weinstein  wrote:

> 16.2.14 has not been released yet.
>
> Please don't do any upgrades before we send an announcement email.
>
> TIA
>
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 8:45 AM Reed Dier  wrote:
> >
> > It looks like 16.2.14 was released, but it looks like in an incomplete
> way in the debian repo?
> >
> > I first noticed it because my nightly mirror snapshot picked it up, and
> showed that the majority of packages were removed, and only a handful had a
> new version.
> >
> > focal-ceph-pacific 230829 to 230830
> >   Arch   | Package  | Version in A
>| Version in B
> > - all| ceph-grafana-dashboards  | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - all| ceph-mgr-cephadm | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > ! all| ceph-mgr-dashboard   | 16.2.13-1focal
>| 16.2.14-1focal
> > - all| ceph-mgr-diskprediction-local| 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - all| ceph-mgr-k8sevents   | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - all| ceph-mgr-modules-core| 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - all| ceph-mgr-rook| 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > ! all| ceph-prometheus-alerts   | 16.2.13-1focal
>| 16.2.14-1focal
> > - all| cephfs-shell | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - all| cephfs-top   | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - all| libcephfs-java   | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > ! all| python3-ceph-argparse| 16.2.13-1focal
>| 16.2.14-1focal
> > ! all| python3-ceph-common  | 16.2.13-1focal
>| 16.2.14-1focal
> > - amd64  | ceph | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > ! amd64  | ceph-base| 16.2.13-1focal
>| 16.2.14-1focal
> > ! amd64  | ceph-base-dbg| 16.2.13-1focal
>| 16.2.14-1focal
> > - amd64  | ceph-common  | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-common-dbg  | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-fuse| 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-fuse-dbg| 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-immutable-object-cache  | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-immutable-object-cache-dbg  | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-mds | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-mds-dbg | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-mgr | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-mgr-dbg | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-mon | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-mon-dbg | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-osd | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-osd-dbg | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-resource-agents | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-test| 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | ceph-test-dbg| 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | cephadm  | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | cephfs-mirror| 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | cephfs-mirror-dbg| 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | libcephfs-dev| 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | libcephfs-jni| 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | libcephfs2   | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -
> > - amd64  | libcephfs2-dbg   | 16.2.13-1focal
>| -

[ceph-users] Re: Pacific 16.2.14 debian Incomplete

2023-08-30 Thread Reed Dier
This is more the sentiment that I was hoping to convey.

Sure, I have my finger on the pulse of the mailing list and the packages coming 
down the pipe, but assuming that everyone does and/or will is not a safe 
assumption.
At the minimum, publishing the versioned repos at $repourl/debian-16.2.14 but 
not cutting the symlink over for  $repourl/debian-pacific until “ready” seems 
like a very easy and useful release process improvement to prevent these 
specific issues going forward.

Likewise, $repourl/rpm-pacific is already pointing to $repourl/rpm-16.2.14 as 
well, so its not a debian specific issue, albeit it looks like there were no 
issues with missing packages on el8.
But the packages were still “pre-released” before we are supposed to use them.

Anything making it to $repourl/{deb,rpm}-$named_release should be “safe.”
Because the documentation 

 uses the named repos, as it should, and right now the documentation is 
effectively broken.

> ubuntu@mini-pacific:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ceph.list ; sudo apt 
> update | grep ceph ; sudo apt install ceph ceph-osd ceph-mon ceph-mgr
> deb https://download.ceph.com/debian-pacific/ focal main
> 
> WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in 
> scripts.
> 
> Hit:5 https://download.ceph.com/debian-pacific focal InRelease
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
> or been moved out of Incoming.
> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
> 
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>  ceph-mgr : Depends: ceph-base (= 15.2.17-0ubuntu0.20.04.4) but it is not 
> going to be installed
>  ceph-mon : Depends: ceph-base (= 15.2.17-0ubuntu0.20.04.4) but it is not 
> going to be installed
>  ceph-osd : PreDepends: ceph-common (= 15.2.17-0ubuntu0.20.04.4) but it is 
> not going to be installed
> Depends: ceph-base (= 15.2.17-0ubuntu0.20.04.4) but it is not 
> going to be installed
> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

Reed

> On Aug 30, 2023, at 11:33 AM, Burkhard Linke 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On 8/30/23 18:26, Yuri Weinstein wrote:
>> 16.2.14 has not been released yet.
>> 
>> Please don't do any upgrades before we send an announcement email.
> 
> 
> Then stop pushing packets before the announcement. This is not the first time 
> this problem occurred. And given your answer I'm afraid it won't be the last 
> time.
> 
> It can't be that hard to coordinate releases.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Burkhard
> 
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[ceph-users] Re: Pacific 16.2.14 debian Incomplete

2023-08-30 Thread Burkhard Linke

Hi,

On 8/30/23 18:26, Yuri Weinstein wrote:

16.2.14 has not been released yet.

Please don't do any upgrades before we send an announcement email.



Then stop pushing packets before the announcement. This is not the first 
time this problem occurred. And given your answer I'm afraid it won't be 
the last time.


It can't be that hard to coordinate releases.


Regards,

Burkhard

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[ceph-users] Re: Pacific 16.2.14 debian Incomplete

2023-08-30 Thread Yuri Weinstein
16.2.14 has not been released yet.

Please don't do any upgrades before we send an announcement email.

TIA

On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 8:45 AM Reed Dier  wrote:
>
> It looks like 16.2.14 was released, but it looks like in an incomplete way in 
> the debian repo?
>
> I first noticed it because my nightly mirror snapshot picked it up, and 
> showed that the majority of packages were removed, and only a handful had a 
> new version.
>
> focal-ceph-pacific 230829 to 230830
>   Arch   | Package  | Version in A
>  | Version in B
> - all| ceph-grafana-dashboards  | 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - all| ceph-mgr-cephadm | 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> ! all| ceph-mgr-dashboard   | 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | 16.2.14-1focal
> - all| ceph-mgr-diskprediction-local| 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - all| ceph-mgr-k8sevents   | 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - all| ceph-mgr-modules-core| 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - all| ceph-mgr-rook| 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> ! all| ceph-prometheus-alerts   | 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | 16.2.14-1focal
> - all| cephfs-shell | 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - all| cephfs-top   | 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - all| libcephfs-java   | 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> ! all| python3-ceph-argparse| 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | 16.2.14-1focal
> ! all| python3-ceph-common  | 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | 16.2.14-1focal
> - amd64  | ceph | 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> ! amd64  | ceph-base| 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | 16.2.14-1focal
> ! amd64  | ceph-base-dbg| 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | 16.2.14-1focal
> - amd64  | ceph-common  | 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - amd64  | ceph-common-dbg  | 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - amd64  | ceph-fuse| 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - amd64  | ceph-fuse-dbg| 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - amd64  | ceph-immutable-object-cache  | 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - amd64  | ceph-immutable-object-cache-dbg  | 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - amd64  | ceph-mds | 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - amd64  | ceph-mds-dbg | 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - amd64  | ceph-mgr | 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - amd64  | ceph-mgr-dbg | 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - amd64  | ceph-mon | 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - amd64  | ceph-mon-dbg | 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - amd64  | ceph-osd | 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - amd64  | ceph-osd-dbg | 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - amd64  | ceph-resource-agents | 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - amd64  | ceph-test| 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - amd64  | ceph-test-dbg| 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - amd64  | cephadm  | 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - amd64  | cephfs-mirror| 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - amd64  | cephfs-mirror-dbg| 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - amd64  | libcephfs-dev| 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - amd64  | libcephfs-jni| 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - amd64  | libcephfs2   | 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - amd64  | libcephfs2-dbg   | 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - amd64  | libjaeger| 16.2.13-1focal  
>  | -
> - amd64  | librados-dev |