Re: Justification for murder

[Scott Stewart]

I'm in line with Jerry, I don't care how you format your code as long as it
is formatted in a readable manner, you do it the same way throughout and I
can reverse engineer it quickly if I have to make changes.

oh yeah and scope the damn variables so I don't have to hunt around for
them.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson 
wrote:

>
> Sadly, unconciously I think I do it to appease the compiler/interpreter
> gods. Don't make them struggle on easy stuff, so they aren't mad at me when
> they get to the complex stuff I have in there.
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Cameron Childress 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I also prefer the "} else {" notation.
> >
> >
> > Me too, and I never leave off the curly brackets, even when it's
> optional.
> > More explicit for the next confused person reading the code (probably me
> in
> > a few months/years).
> >
> > -Cameron
> >
> > ...
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: lol AmericanThinker

[Scott Stewart]

 ..

On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <
zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Remember when someone used to post articles from American Thinker all the
> time….well, they’ve doubled down on the ‘dumb’ this time
>
>
> http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/02/obama_and_the_muslim_gang_sign.html
>
>
> 

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Re: Planning a visit

[Scott Stewart]

Cool, my mom graduated from Mount Vernon in the fifties . :)

They've also remodeled American History and there's not as much there, the
entire computer exhibit is gone and the entire west side of the museum is
still under construction. I think the best bet to keep the kids occupied is
Air and Space.

They've opened a distilerry at Mount Vernon, you can buy products but they
are very expensive,  There are no tastings on the tour but you can sample
at the Inn at Mt Vernon.

I've never been to the Newseum so I'm not much help there. On the plus side
the Washington Monument is open again after repairs and some remodeling
after the earthquake a couple of years ago. If you get a chance to go to
the National Building Museum, I understand that there is a lot for kids to
do there.

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 11:27 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey 
wrote:

>
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Scott Stewart 
> wrote:
>
> > In short while at the Pentagon, do exactly what they nice men with the
> > machine guns tell you to do.
> >
>
> Thanks for the heads-up on the changes and lines.  Our visit is this month
> so we'll miss the busses.
>
> We've got the kids this time so late-night activities aren't on the list.
> We had planned Air & Space, the U/H Extension, Mt. Vernon (I graduated from
> MVHS), American History, the monuments and Newseum.
>
> That last one is the only one I'm questioning.  It's pricey and I'm not
> sure if it's worth the money or not considering we're going to be there
> with a 10 and 12 year old.  Has anyone been to that?
>
> Until Later!
> C. Hatton Humphrey
>
>
> 

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Re: Planning a visit

[Scott Stewart]

Hatton, you're correct. Huntington is the last stop on the Yellow line and
Franconia/Springfield is the last stop on the Blue Line. They both are in
Fairfax County.

It sounds like you've got a good location. King St. is the "strip" in Old
Town Alexandria (and by that I mean where the restaurants and bars are) you
can find everything from fast food to five star dining. Right across the
river from Alexandria is National Harbor which has alot of
nightlife/restaurants/shops etc you can either cross the river by car (495
over the Woodrow Wilson Bridge) or by water taxi.

As far as Metro goes, Avoid rush hour like the plague the trains are
crowded and finding a seat is next to impossible. If you're intenerary
includes Arlington Cemetary and/or the Pentagon Memorial take the Blue
Line, it's the long way to the Smithsonian and the National Mall  The only
disadvantage to non rush service is that the trains run on a much longer
schedule.

This site will help immensely (it's also written in ColdFusion)
http://www.wmata.com/

Also note that the Pentagon Reservation is a high security area, things can
close up at a moments notice. There is no photography allowed outside of
the Pentagon Memorial, they are very strict about this. There are pentagon
tours available but you have to book in advance .

http://www.whs.mil/our-services/visitor-services/pentagon-tours-and-memorial

In short while at the Pentagon, do exactly what they nice men with the
machine guns tell you to do.

More notes: The dinosaur exhibit at the Natural History Museum is closed
until 2017, as they are redoing the entire thing, there are occasional
small exhibits out, but the collection as a whole is being revamped,
cleaned etc.

The Udvar - Hazy Center (the Air and Space Museum Annex) is about 25 Miles
or so due west of DC at Dulles International Airport, and parking is $15
per car.

Things start to ramp up in mid March that's when the tour busses start
showing up en masse and the museums start to get crowded.

If you're also looking for local music and nightlife I can suggest a few
places

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 10:43 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey 
wrote:

>
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Scott Stewart 
> wrote:
>
> > Ermmm.. if you were at the farthest stop in Virginia you'd be at
> > Franconia/Springfield which is right next to a large shopping mall or
> > Huntington which is outside of Old Town Alexandria in Fairfax County and
> > not the best neighborhood.
> >
> > We're you perhaps at the King Street Metro?
> >
>
> Doesn't that depend on what line you're looking at?  Isn't Huntington the
> last stop for Yellow line?
>
> The place we got is about 5-10 minutes from either Braddock Rd or King St.
> Overall I'm impressed with AirBNB too.  The property owner has been really
> responsive already and it's made setting other plans up much more
> comfortable.
>
> Until Later!
> C. Hatton Humphrey
>
>
> 

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Re: Planning a visit

[Scott Stewart]

Ermmm.. if you were at the farthest stop in Virginia you'd be at
Franconia/Springfield which is right next to a large shopping mall or
Huntington which is outside of Old Town Alexandria in Fairfax County and
not the best neighborhood.

We're you perhaps at the King Street Metro?

On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Judah McAuley  wrote:

>
> I had a really good experience with an apartment on AirBnB in Old Town,
> right by the farthest out stop on the Metro. Super convenient and a decent
> rate for the week we were spending there.
>
> On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 1:15 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Nevermind, found a great little spot on AirBNB.com!
> >
> > Should be fun, it's the first time we've been back to DC with the kids
> in a
> > number of years.  I'm excited to see the new Air & Space extension and
> with
> > this spot we'll be able to have guests over.
> >
> > Until Later!
> > C. Hatton Humphrey
> > http://www.eastcoastconservative.com
> >
> > Like the saying goes, "Measure Twice, Cut Onc..."
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 1:50 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > So the family decided that the upcoming winter break is going to be a
> > good
> > > time to visit DC.  Wife wants to stay in the Alexandria area (Rt 1 or
> Old
> > > Towne) at someplace where she can cook... any suggestions on places to
> > > look?  I've hit the major sites already and have started trying
> > > HomeAway.com which has vacation rentals.
> > >
> > > It's going to be an interesting trip!
> > >
> > > Until Later!
> > > C. Hatton Humphrey
> > >
> > > Like the saying goes, "Measure Twice, Cut Onc..."
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Work

[Scott Stewart]

Good to hear.  Perserverance for the win!!

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 9:37 AM, LRS Scout  wrote:

>
> Things are going great. Spending time with the boys.
>
> I've got an interview in Wilmington next week.  I would love to live at the
> beach.
>
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Scott Stewart 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > We're getting things set up, we're buying a new couch because we couldn't
> > get the mold out of the one that we had... it's just as well because I
> HATE
> > that couch :)  I have some work to do on the interior because the
> previous
> > owner half assed some things..
> >
> > How are you doing
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 9:08 AM, LRS Scout  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Ruby is a great idea.
> > >
> > > Need to set up a learning site.
> > >
> > > Thanks man.
> > >
> > > How are you enjoying the house?
> > > On Jan 23, 2015 8:52 AM, "Scott Stewart" 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Open source technologies, Ruby, PHP were big when I was down there.
> > I'm
> > > > seeing alot of front end developer slots across the board (jQuery,
> > > > Sencha[EXT-JS], jQuery Mobile)
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 8:45 AM, LRS Scout 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > So, I'm coming to the end of this contract.
> > > > >
> > > > > it's been great getting back into the mix.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm looking for my next thing.  I have a couple of interviews lined
> > up
> > > > > around the Triangle are and down in Wilmington.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm wondering if you guys have any pointers for job hunt.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm looking for something full time, permanent , on site.  I never
> > was
> > > > good
> > > > > at the telecommute thing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also what titles and job descriptions should I be looking at
> outside
> > > the
> > > > CF
> > > > > community?Obviously I know all the basic HTML/CSS/JS stuff and
> have a
> > > > > decent grasp on a whole ton of stuff.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ideas?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Work

[Scott Stewart]

We're getting things set up, we're buying a new couch because we couldn't
get the mold out of the one that we had... it's just as well because I HATE
that couch :)  I have some work to do on the interior because the previous
owner half assed some things..

How are you doing

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 9:08 AM, LRS Scout  wrote:

>
> Ruby is a great idea.
>
> Need to set up a learning site.
>
> Thanks man.
>
> How are you enjoying the house?
> On Jan 23, 2015 8:52 AM, "Scott Stewart" 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Open source technologies, Ruby, PHP were big when I was down there.  I'm
> > seeing alot of front end developer slots across the board (jQuery,
> > Sencha[EXT-JS], jQuery Mobile)
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 8:45 AM, LRS Scout  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > So, I'm coming to the end of this contract.
> > >
> > > it's been great getting back into the mix.
> > >
> > > I'm looking for my next thing.  I have a couple of interviews lined up
> > > around the Triangle are and down in Wilmington.
> > >
> > > I'm wondering if you guys have any pointers for job hunt.
> > >
> > > I'm looking for something full time, permanent , on site.  I never was
> > good
> > > at the telecommute thing.
> > >
> > > Also what titles and job descriptions should I be looking at outside
> the
> > CF
> > > community?Obviously I know all the basic HTML/CSS/JS stuff and have a
> > > decent grasp on a whole ton of stuff.
> > >
> > > Ideas?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Work

[Scott Stewart]

BTW: Learn the fundamentals of Ruby before you learn Rails. It's not a one
size fits all framework

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Scott Stewart 
wrote:

> Open source technologies, Ruby, PHP were big when I was down there.  I'm
> seeing alot of front end developer slots across the board (jQuery,
> Sencha[EXT-JS], jQuery Mobile)
>
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 8:45 AM, LRS Scout  wrote:
>
>>
>> So, I'm coming to the end of this contract.
>>
>> it's been great getting back into the mix.
>>
>> I'm looking for my next thing.  I have a couple of interviews lined up
>> around the Triangle are and down in Wilmington.
>>
>> I'm wondering if you guys have any pointers for job hunt.
>>
>> I'm looking for something full time, permanent , on site.  I never was
>> good
>> at the telecommute thing.
>>
>> Also what titles and job descriptions should I be looking at outside the
>> CF
>> community?Obviously I know all the basic HTML/CSS/JS stuff and have a
>> decent grasp on a whole ton of stuff.
>>
>> Ideas?
>>
>>
>> 

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Re: Work

[Scott Stewart]

Open source technologies, Ruby, PHP were big when I was down there.  I'm
seeing alot of front end developer slots across the board (jQuery,
Sencha[EXT-JS], jQuery Mobile)

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 8:45 AM, LRS Scout  wrote:

>
> So, I'm coming to the end of this contract.
>
> it's been great getting back into the mix.
>
> I'm looking for my next thing.  I have a couple of interviews lined up
> around the Triangle are and down in Wilmington.
>
> I'm wondering if you guys have any pointers for job hunt.
>
> I'm looking for something full time, permanent , on site.  I never was good
> at the telecommute thing.
>
> Also what titles and job descriptions should I be looking at outside the CF
> community?Obviously I know all the basic HTML/CSS/JS stuff and have a
> decent grasp on a whole ton of stuff.
>
> Ideas?
>
>
> 

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Re: Something is rewriting my table!

[Scott Stewart]

Is this site in a CMS?

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Zaphod  wrote:

>
> Chrome also has some fantastic stuff for debugging also. I prefer it to
> the firebug stuff.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 18, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Maureen  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Firebug will do that.  It will show you the exact CSS file and the
> > line that is styling the element.
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 6:30 PM, LRS Scout  wrote:
> >>
> >> But not where it comes from.
> >>
> >> I wish there were a way to set a break point on an element that tells me
> >> the functions, classes and styles effecting it and their file locations.
> >>
> >> This app is driving me insane.
> >>
> >> There over 10k lines of css in just one generated file.
> >>> On Dec 18, 2014 6:16 PM, "Maureen"  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> If you install Firebug in Firefox, you can right click on the item in
> >>> the browser, say Inspect in FireBug and it will show you HTML, CSS,
> >>> DOM, etc..for that item.
> >>>
> >>>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 11:02 AM, LRS Scout 
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> We decided just to rewrite it, LOE is too high because we can't get
> it to
> >>>> break on anything when we're steeping through.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Scott Stewart <
> >>> webmas...@sstwebworks.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Have you looked at the "net" view in Firebug, assuming you have
> access
> >>> to
> >>>>> Firefox or the "network" view in IE, either of these tools will show
> you
> >>>>> what's being pinged in the background
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 10:40 AM, LRS Scout 
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So this contract I'm on is interesting, a lot going on in the code,
> >>>>> bunches
> >>>>>> of legacy stuff that we're trying to rebrand into a single whole.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We don't have any control over some of the CSS and scripts that the
> >>>>>> designers are putting out (which they are still creating while we're
> >>>>> trying
> >>>>>> to implement it) and this is lead to some problems we've been able
> to
> >>>>>> pretty easily resolve with local CSS.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I just got a ticket to fix the formatting for a small table with a
> >>> form
> >>>>>> inside it that controls the content of a cfgrid.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On the original layout the table just has two form fields and a
> submit
> >>>>>> button.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On the generated html (.ready or onLoad, not server side) for the
> new
> >>>>>> layout the table has been turned into an unordered list using spans
> >>> and
> >>>>>> they won't stack horizontally.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> How can I trace what script or css is changing this and stop it?
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Something is rewriting my table!

[Scott Stewart]

Have you looked at the "net" view in Firebug, assuming you have access to
Firefox or the "network" view in IE, either of these tools will show you
what's being pinged in the background

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 10:40 AM, LRS Scout  wrote:
>
>
> So this contract I'm on is interesting, a lot going on in the code, bunches
> of legacy stuff that we're trying to rebrand into a single whole.
>
> We don't have any control over some of the CSS and scripts that the
> designers are putting out (which they are still creating while we're trying
> to implement it) and this is lead to some problems we've been able to
> pretty easily resolve with local CSS.
>
> I just got a ticket to fix the formatting for a small table with a form
> inside it that controls the content of a cfgrid.
>
> On the original layout the table just has two form fields and a submit
> button.
>
> On the generated html (.ready or onLoad, not server side) for the new
> layout the table has been turned into an unordered list using spans and
> they won't stack horizontally.
>
> How can I trace what script or css is changing this and stop it?
>
>
> 

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Re: My music

[Scott Stewart]

This is from 1997, we've gotten heavier (and older, albeit none the wiser)

http://division.bandcamp.com/

But the melody and the guitar interplay is definitely still there.


On 10/14/2014 5:01 PM, Maureen wrote:
> Send me some links.
>
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Scott Stewart
>  wrote:
>> Music wise were all original
>> On Oct 14, 2014 4:22 PM, "Maureen"  wrote:
>>
>>> That sounds like fun.  What songs do you do?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Scott Stewart
>>>  wrote:
>>>> Judith,
>>>> If you need a metal band as an opener when you go on tour let me know :)
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Eric Roberts <
>>>> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Congrats and break a leg
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 8:12 AM
>>>>> To: cf-community
>>>>> Subject: My music
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For the last several years I have been working on a double album of my
>>>>> music
>>>>> and some of my favorite covers. I will be releasing the CD  very soon.
>>> I am
>>>>> currently doing pre-sales to cover the final cost of production.
>>>>>
>>>>> The genre is country flavored singer/songwriter.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you would like to purchase, this is the link to the page on my
>>> website.
>>>>> http://planetjudith.com/pages/cd1.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
> 

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Re: My music

[Scott Stewart]

Music wise were all original
On Oct 14, 2014 4:22 PM, "Maureen"  wrote:

>
> That sounds like fun.  What songs do you do?
>
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Scott Stewart
>  wrote:
> >
> > Judith,
> > If you need a metal band as an opener when you go on tour let me know :)
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Eric Roberts <
> > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Congrats and break a leg
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 8:12 AM
> >> To: cf-community
> >> Subject: My music
> >>
> >>
> >> For the last several years I have been working on a double album of my
> >> music
> >> and some of my favorite covers. I will be releasing the CD  very soon.
> I am
> >> currently doing pre-sales to cover the final cost of production.
> >>
> >> The genre is country flavored singer/songwriter.
> >>
> >> If you would like to purchase, this is the link to the page on my
> website.
> >>
> >> http://planetjudith.com/pages/cd1.html
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: My music

[Scott Stewart]

I sing...
On Oct 14, 2014 4:22 PM, "Maureen"  wrote:

>
> That sounds like fun.  What songs do you do?
>
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Scott Stewart
>  wrote:
> >
> > Judith,
> > If you need a metal band as an opener when you go on tour let me know :)
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Eric Roberts <
> > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Congrats and break a leg
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 8:12 AM
> >> To: cf-community
> >> Subject: My music
> >>
> >>
> >> For the last several years I have been working on a double album of my
> >> music
> >> and some of my favorite covers. I will be releasing the CD  very soon.
> I am
> >> currently doing pre-sales to cover the final cost of production.
> >>
> >> The genre is country flavored singer/songwriter.
> >>
> >> If you would like to purchase, this is the link to the page on my
> website.
> >>
> >> http://planetjudith.com/pages/cd1.html
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: My music

[Scott Stewart]

Judith,
If you need a metal band as an opener when you go on tour let me know :)

On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Eric Roberts <
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:

>
> Congrats and break a leg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 8:12 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: My music
>
>
> For the last several years I have been working on a double album of my
> music
> and some of my favorite covers. I will be releasing the CD  very soon. I am
> currently doing pre-sales to cover the final cost of production.
>
> The genre is country flavored singer/songwriter.
>
> If you would like to purchase, this is the link to the page on my website.
>
> http://planetjudith.com/pages/cd1.html
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
>
> 

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Re: What the iPhone 6 does better than the rest

[Scott Stewart]

They're just trying to compete with the Samsung Galaxy Edge.

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Cameron Childress 
wrote:

>
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Scott Stewart wrote:
>
> > But it's still an iPhone and still two years behind the curve
>
>
> Oh no, it curves fine, just leave it in your pocket all day.
>
> -Cameron
>
> ...
>
>
> 

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Re: What the iPhone 6 does better than the rest

[Scott Stewart]

But it's still an iPhone and still two years behind the curve
😁
On Sep 24, 2014 7:40 AM, "Vivec"  wrote:

>
> For those of you wondering, here's what the iPhone 6 does better than any
> other phone out there on the market:
>
> The 64 bit A8 Processor is better and faster than anything else on the
> market.
>
> The fingerprint scanner is the best performing scanner on the market, and
> it is absolutely better than Samsung's S5 implementation
>
> The camera has an autofocus system usually reserved for DSLRs.
>
> Hand off of tasks between Apple devices is great, and a productivity
> booster for many. Pick up writing an email, an SMS, or sharing documents
> immediately between devices. (moving from your desktop to your iPad in your
> bedroom, for example, would be seamless)
>
> ApplePay is a tremendous innovation, with the ability to radically change
> the way we use Credit Cards
>
> So these aren't necessarily revolutionary changes, but neither has anything
> the competition has done been revolutionary.
>
> However, once again, Apple takes its incremental improvements and
> implements them correctly and with a marketing flair that appeals to its
> customer base. Which is why the iPhone launch always boast the best sell
> throughs of any mobile device.
>
>
> 

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Re: Bowing out

[Scott Stewart]

I truly hope that you find the healing and peace that you seek.  Please
don't be gone long.
On Sep 10, 2014 9:17 PM, "Maureen"  wrote:

>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Michael Dinowitz
>  wrote:
> >
> > You should have a Refuah Shelama (a complete healing). I hope you're just
> > avoiding the political threads rather than bowing out of the list in
> > general.
>
> I do need healing, as I am past the point where allopathic medicine
> can do anything for me. Currently suffering with crippling arthritis
> in my hands, which makes it hard to type or to play my instruments.
> Also a failing kidney due to a reaction to the contrast agent used
> during a medical procedure, and a toe with the bones completely
> crushed.
>
> Mostly however, I need work that I can do from home as I am not able
> to commute very much.  I'm doing a lot of data conversions, moving
> stuff from relational databases to Big Data tools and migrating
> content from various CMS systems.
> But I am actively seeking more clients so I can keep food on the table.
>
> > On a related note, I'm rather impressed with our members on the whole. We
> > can and do fight like cats and dogs but I've seen people of opposing
> > viewpoints meet on some issues and have seen people who would kill each
> > other on one issue be able to put it totally aside when the issue wasn't
> > being discussed.
>
> I agree about the list.  I have made some very good friends here,
> including some that I butt heads with over politics on a regular
> basis.  But there a couple of people I've encountered here that I
> would not willingly break bread with, so my choice to avoid them, and
> I cannot do that and participate in the political discussions.  I will
> still be onlist, just not reading the political threads.
>
> 

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Re: Ray Rice

[Scott Stewart]

This is a quote from Rush Limbaugh, an entertainer it is therefore deemed
without merit and irrelevant in a conversation dealing with actual events.

Ten yard penalty and loss of down.
On Sep 10, 2014 4:07 PM, "Sam"  wrote:

>
> "If NOW is really serious about violence against women, they've gotta
> focus on Bill Clinton. Where were the NAGs when Juanita Broaddrick
> said she was raped by Bill Clinton?  Where were the NAGs when Kathleen
> Willey was stalked and hit on by Bill Clinton?  Where were the NAGs
> when Gennifer Flowers and all the 'bimbos' were assaulted? Where were
> they when Paula Jones was called trailer trash by James Carville who
> said, 'This is what you get when you drag a dollar bill through a
> trailer park'?" -Rush
>
> .
>
> 

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Re: Ray Rice

[Scott Stewart]

Why did you need to respond,  there's this thing called "picking your
battles".  But you don't understand the concept of adequate response,  how
could you understand this..
On Sep 10, 2014 3:58 PM, "Rick Faircloth"  wrote:

>
> And Maureen is just being a liar, stating that I "insist that the fault
> is always
> with the victim." I don't like my words being twisted by someone who can't
> understand them. And I was trying to "gently" rebuff her false accusation.
>
> She threw the first punch. I responded. Who was the first victim?
>
> Oh, but Maureen gets a pass for her abusive tone because she's a woman.
>
> Did Maureen provoke my response in any way, Scott, you asshole. ;o)
>
>
>
>
> On 9/10/2014 3:51 PM, Scott Stewart wrote:
> > Now you're just being a dick..
> > On Sep 10, 2014 3:49 PM, "Rick Faircloth" 
> wrote:
> >
> >> "But people like Rick continue to insist that the fault is always with
> >> the victim."
> >>
> >> Slow down, take a deep breath, and try to think clearly, Maureen.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/10/2014 1:39 PM, Maureen wrote:
> >>> There are millions of people living in abusive relationships.  Mostly
> >>> they consist of women who are too cowed or dependent to leave, and
> >>> men who aren't quite violent enough to kill them.   One in three
> >>> homicides of women is related to domestic violence. Twenty-five
> >>> percent of the homeless families are related to domestic violence.
> >>> Most domestic violence incidents are not reported.
> >>>
> >>> But people like Rick continue to insist that the fault is always with
> >>> the victim.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:54 PM, GMoney  wrote:
> >>>> Meh, abusive relationships can last..they just really suck for
> >> everyone
> >>>> involved.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Vivec  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Talk to men who have some spanish wives and they may disagree.
> >>>>> Plates tend to fly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 10 September 2014 12:27, GMoney  wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Very rarely do relationships last or improve once abuse has entered
> >> the
> >>>>>> picture. Arguments and disagreements happen. THey can be heated,
> they
> >> can
> >>>>>> be loud. Things can be said that are hurtful and regretful. These
> >> things
> >>>>>> happen in relationships and can be mended.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But when it escalates to abuse..there's usually no going back.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
> >
>
> 

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Re: Ray Rice

[Scott Stewart]

Now you're just being a dick..
On Sep 10, 2014 3:49 PM, "Rick Faircloth"  wrote:

>
> "But people like Rick continue to insist that the fault is always with
> the victim."
>
> Slow down, take a deep breath, and try to think clearly, Maureen.
>
>
> On 9/10/2014 1:39 PM, Maureen wrote:
> > There are millions of people living in abusive relationships.  Mostly
> > they consist of women who are too cowed or dependent to leave, and
> > men who aren't quite violent enough to kill them.   One in three
> > homicides of women is related to domestic violence. Twenty-five
> > percent of the homeless families are related to domestic violence.
> > Most domestic violence incidents are not reported.
> >
> > But people like Rick continue to insist that the fault is always with
> > the victim.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:54 PM, GMoney  wrote:
> >> Meh, abusive relationships can last..they just really suck for
> everyone
> >> involved.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Vivec  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Talk to men who have some spanish wives and they may disagree.
> >>> Plates tend to fly.
> >>>
> >>> On 10 September 2014 12:27, GMoney  wrote:
> >>>
>  Very rarely do relationships last or improve once abuse has entered
> the
>  picture. Arguments and disagreements happen. THey can be heated, they
> can
>  be loud. Things can be said that are hurtful and regretful. These
> things
>  happen in relationships and can be mended.
> 
>  But when it escalates to abuse..there's usually no going back.
> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
> 

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Re: Apple live event is starting!!

[Scott Stewart]

Isn't there an electrical current created when nickel (on the backs of
watches) is exposed to salt/sweat ?

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Judah McAuley  wrote:

>
> I gave up on wrist watches for that reason. They would stop running. I'd
> take it off, put it on the dresser, look at it a couple days later and it
> would be running again.  Totally weird.
>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 8:44 AM, GMoney  wrote:
>
> >
> > Has that phenomenon ever been studied?
> >
> > I know several people who cannot wear watchesthey quit working after
> > several days of touching their skin. My mom for one cannot wear a watch,
> > never has been able too...they all die within a few days.
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:24 AM, William Bowen  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Pocket watches for me, too.
> > >
> > > Wrist watches, mechanical, battery and even digital do not function for
> > > long when attached to my wrists... dunno why...
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 7:40 AM, LRS Scout  wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I always did like you Jerry :)
> > > > On Sep 10, 2014 10:22 AM, "Jerry Milo Johnson" 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I carry a pocket watch. Swiss army. For the same reason.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:19 AM, LRS Scout 
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I wear a winding mechanical watch on purpose.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can tell direction and relative piston in day and night with
> it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Time I can guess t mate if need be, for a period
> > > > > > On Sep 10, 2014 8:48 AM, "Cameron Childress"  >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 9:50 PM, William Bowen wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also... it's a fucking phone.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I need a new phone and have an iPhone. I'll buy the 6 (the
> > smaller
> > > > one)
> > > > > > > when it's available to buy online but I am not standing in line
> > and
> > > > if
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > site crashes due to traffic I'll wait a few days. I do like the
> > > Apple
> > > > > > > ecosystem though.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > oh and a watch.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Okay, so I was totally meh about the watch before the event but
> > > it's
> > > > > > > actually impressed me more than I expected. Did you guys watch
> > the
> > > > > event
> > > > > > > video and see the details? Still meh?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I haven't worn a watch in years. I think I am still going to
> wait
> > > for
> > > > > > > someone else to buy one so I can check it out in person and see
> > how
> > > > > they
> > > > > > > like it. I can't imagine the battery life will be very good but
> > it
> > > > has
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > > pretty promising features.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Cameron
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

[Scott Stewart]

Agreed, and I think this is where a lot of the push back is coming from.
Many of us,myself included were raised to never strike a woman, for any
reason. To do so would be considered cowardly.

Don't hit women, don't abuse kids, don't abuse animals, do unto others
that was the mantra from my parents.

When I was training in Taekwondo, if I had done to someone what Ray Rice
did to his fiancee, my Master instructor and Grand Master would have beaten
me half to death themselves.

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson 
wrote:

>
> Heck. He hits HIMSELF harder than that just to get psyched before a play.
>
> This guy gets hit for a living.
>
> My feelings are thus:
>
> A man should never punch a woman. Period.
>
> He shouldn't molest children. He shouldn't steal money. He shouldn't kick
> puppies. He shouldn't shoot people in a bar. And he shouldn't punch a
> woman.
>
> And if he does he has violated an inviolate man-rule. And will be shunned.
>
> It really at this point has nothing to do with her, and everything to do
> with him putting himself on the other side of the acceptable behavior line
> by his actions.
>
> Not everyone may agree with that line but we are seeing most people do.
>
> So he needs to suck it. He has put himself outside societal norms. There is
> a path back but he is going to have to work on it.
>
> >
> >
>
>
> 

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Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

[Scott Stewart]

Block and run, that's exactly what he should've done
there was no way she was  going to hurt him


On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Vivec  wrote:

>
> And I agree with you on that.
>
> However the notion of restraint? I think the only course of action there is
> to block and run.
> Anything else could result in damage. Especially if she is drunk.
>
> On 10 September 2014 12:33, Scott Stewart 
> wrote:
>
> > Gel,
> >
> > None of this matters, in a US Court regardless of whether or not she hit
> > him first these questions will be asked.
> >
> > 1) was he in mortal danger at the time. IMO from the video, no
> > 2) Did he use an appropriate amount of force in defending himself. IMO,
> > from the video, no he didn't he is strong enough to restrain her without
> > the amount of physical damage, IE knocking her out ,inflicted. He could
> > have gotten out at the next floor, removing himself from the situation.
> >
> > IMO, He would be guilty of assault based on the extreme response to being
> > slapped. He could have easily killed her with the amount of force applied
> > behind that punch.
> >
> > This would apply to male or female given the size difference.
> >
>
>
> 

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Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

[Scott Stewart]

Gel,

None of this matters, in a US Court regardless of whether or not she hit
him first these questions will be asked.

1) was he in mortal danger at the time. IMO from the video, no
2) Did he use an appropriate amount of force in defending himself. IMO,
from the video, no he didn't he is strong enough to restrain her without
the amount of physical damage, IE knocking her out ,inflicted. He could
have gotten out at the next floor, removing himself from the situation.

IMO, He would be guilty of assault based on the extreme response to being
slapped. He could have easily killed her with the amount of force applied
behind that punch.

This would apply to male or female given the size difference.

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Vivec  wrote:

>
> It was a very simple question.
> Let's make it even simpler.
>
> You are a Lawyer reviewing a Jury.
> Your client is accused of rape, and he is innocent.
>
> Do you allow the woman who was gang raped four times to be on your Jury?
>
> I mean..let's make it REALLY simple. Can you answer that?
>
> On 10 September 2014 10:55, Scott Stroz  wrote:
>
> >
> > Are you saying that people who have been raped are incapable of viewing
> > other rape cases objectively?
> >
> >
>
>
> 

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Re: Two bad choices

[Scott Stewart]

death metal?
On Sep 9, 2014 4:26 PM, "C. Hatton Humphrey"  wrote:

>
> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Scott Stewart 
> wrote:
>
> > Damn.. And no one got the Winger reference.
>
>
> Got it, looked at it, set it gently on the ground and walked away.
>
> Either that or I've been numbed by too much DM lately.
>
> Until Later!
> C. Hatton Humphrey
> http://www.eastcoastconservative.com
>
> Every cloud does have a silver lining.  Sometimes you just have to do some
> smelting to find it.
>
>
> 

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Re: Two bad choices

[Scott Stewart]

Damn.. And no one got the Winger reference.
On Sep 9, 2014 4:16 PM, "C. Hatton Humphrey"  wrote:

>
> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Sam  wrote:
>
> > Three kids and still messing around?
> > I might throw a leg over her but not sure I'd vote for her.
> >
>
> This race just keeps getting more interesting
>
> First, here's the Heidi Fleiss look-alike picture
> http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/gia-arnold-suspends-campaign-affair
>
> When she got back in the race the Buffalo News ran this:
>
> http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/elections/gia-arnold-back-in-state-senate-republican-primary-race-after-admitting-to-affair-20140822
>
> ...and yes, she's got 3 kids.  From the TPM story, "I had an affair on
> August 1st and four days later I left my husband," Arnold said. "I wanted
> to go public with the information, just because it was heavy on my
> conscience and I am strong for honesty and integrity and always telling the
> truth and I felt it was important as a public figure that the public was
> aware of what was going on."
>
> Until Later!
> C. Hatton Humphrey
> http://www.eastcoastconservative.com
>
> Every cloud does have a silver lining.  Sometimes you just have to do some
> smelting to find it.
>
>
> 

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Re: Ray Rice

[Scott Stewart]

God I hope you're kidding
On Sep 9, 2014 4:13 PM, "Vivec"  wrote:

>
> Actually, in Florida if he had shot and killed her he would probably be in
> a lot less trouble.
> The stand your ground law should apply.
>
> On 9 September 2014 16:08, Scott Stroz  wrote:
>
> >
> > As has been pointed out in the thread, the issue for most is one of
> > proportional response. Would you feel he had a right to defend himself by
> > shooting her? According to you , he was being assaulted, and, following
> > your 'logic' he should be bale to respond how he sees fit, right?
>
>
> 

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Re: Two bad choices

[Scott Stewart]

She's cute but she's what 17...?

/me walks away humming an old Winger tune... "she's only seventeen"
On Sep 9, 2014 3:33 PM, "LRS Scout"  wrote:

>
> Heidi fliess something like that
> On Sep 9, 2014 3:31 PM, "GMoney"  wrote:
>
> >
> > she looks a tad like that mistress-to-the-stars who got arrested a few
> > years ago.the one with the black book with all the celebrities names
> in
> > itwhat was her name.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 1:08 PM, LRS Scout  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > That was gonna be my first response haha
> > > On Sep 9, 2014 2:01 PM, "Bruce Sorge"  wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I'd do her.
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone 5S
> > > >
> > > > > On Sep 9, 2014, at 1:48 PM, "C. Hatton Humphrey" <
> > chumph...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:42 PM, GMoney 
> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Your sig has a link to EastCoastConservative.comthat MIGHT be
> a
> > > > clue as
> > > > >> to which primary you are voting in :)
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah, my signature has had that in it for over 6 years so the
> primary
> > > *I*
> > > > > am looking at is obvious.  I was trying to make it vague so others
> > > might
> > > > > share how they stood when faced with two options and neither one
> was
> > > > really
> > > > > a stand-out.
> > > > >
> > > > > For this *specific* race we've got Gia Arnold (http://votegia.com/
> )
> > > > against
> > > > > Rob Ortt (http://www.robortt.com/).  Inexperienced libertarian vs
> > city
> > > > > mayor/combat vet moderate.  The Republican incumbent retired so
> > there's
> > > > no
> > > > > battle there.
> > > > >
> > > > > As for where they say they stand on things, I could vote for either
> > of
> > > > them
> > > > > and be comfortable.  I know enough about campaigns not to believe
> > most
> > > of
> > > > > the attacks... but then again I also know that New York campaigns,
> > even
> > > > > primaries, are dirty devious things at times.
> > > > >
> > > > > Until Later!
> > > > > C. Hatton Humphrey
> > > > > http://www.eastcoastconservative.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Every cloud does have a silver lining.  Sometimes you just have to
> do
> > > > some
> > > > > smelting to find it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Ray Rice

[Scott Stewart]

How will I determine smaller,  weaker? When that person slaps me in the
face and it stings a little and I don't go down. Sifu Bruce Lee may have
been smaller but he was in no way weaker all you had to do is look at him.
I have over ten years of martial arts training and competition under my
belt. I have been attacked and my fight or flight response is tempered with
control and rational thought. I would be able to judge my response
appropriately.

Both times that I have been attacked have been reported to the police and
in each case the attacker came out worse,  broken sternum and broken nose
respectively,  and I was not charged because my response was judge to be
appropriate.

There are laws against self defense when the response is inappropriate.

I never said that you said his response was appropriate, you seem to be
dead set on making this about you. The law will say that Rice' response was
not appropriate to the situation.

You also convieniantly reinterpreted what I said about being approached,
my scenario was being approached by someone saying give me All your money,
insinuating a robbery.

Would you shoot that unarmed attacker.
On Sep 9, 2014 1:54 PM, "Rick Faircloth"  wrote:

>
> Can you quote me, Scott, stating that Rice's response was appropriate?
>
> And, you're wrong about assault by a "smaller, weaker" person. Bruce Lee
> weighed
> on 135 lbs, smaller than almost anyone beyond the 8th grade today. But
> he could
> easily kill anyone on the plant.  How are you going to make that
> judgement in a
> split-second, that the person attacking you can't hurt you? You have
> obviously
> never been attacked. Your survival instinct kicks in and you fight by
> any means at
> your disposal to survive. (And this has nothing to do with Ray Rice, it
> has to do with
> your "weaker, smaller" PERSON scenario.)  And no, there is no law in any
> state against
> self-defense.
>
> And no, if a person asks me for money, I wouldn't just shoot him. (I
> usually give them
> some money...) But if I said no and that person began to beat me and I
> couldn't get
> him to stop, I would draw my weapon and put him down. He made the choice to
> get shot.
>
>
> On 9/9/2014 1:42 PM, Scott Stewart wrote:
> > So your saying that a man shouldn't show restraint if he is kicked,  spit
> > on,  cursed at etc.?
> >
> > There's that issue of equivalent response again...  Let me break it down
> > for you...  If someone physically smaller and weaker than me slaps me
> and I
> > knock them out either by fist or foot,  that is not an equivalent
> > response,  I will be charged and convicted of asault,  no amount of
> claims
> > of self defense will hold up.  If I restrain that person through joint
> > barring or joint lock,  or simply walk away I'm in the clear.  It's
> pretty
> > much the same in all fifty States.  To take it a step further...  An
> > unarmed man approaches you on the street and says give me your money,
> and
> > you shoot him dead,  you're probably going to prison. Why?  Because he
> was
> > unarmed and you didn't have to kill him to get out of the situation.
> >
> > Regardless of what she did,  Ray Rice' response wasn't appropriate to the
> > situation.  He could have blocked her slaps,  restrained her,  or simply
> > gotten off the elevator.  He chose to knock her out.. Case closed.
> >   On Sep 9, 2014 1:27 PM, "Rick Faircloth" 
> wrote:
> >
> >> I see you're expanding your vocabulary, you misogynistic douche bag
> >> asshole.
> >>
> >> Train your daughters, if you have any, to treat men any way they feel
> >> like it,
> >> and see how much trouble it brings them.
> >>
> >> Most men, like myself, would simply control them physically to stop
> their
> >> assault, but some men, like Ray, might resort to more violent means.
> >>
> >> I can hear your advice, now, you misogynistic douche bag asshole,
> >> "Honey, you can
> >> kick, spit on, curse, slap, or hit a man if you want to and he is not
> >> allowed to
> >> hit you back. If he does, he is totally at fault for what happens to
> >> you. You
> >> are completely innocent."
> >>
> >> Give that advice to your daughter, you misogynistic douche bag asshole,
> >> and she
> >> may end up seriously injured or dead by following your advice.
> >>
> >> You are the one who, in the end, are the true misogynistic douche bag
> >> asshole, by
> >> teaching your daughter to live in your fantasy utopia, rather than the

Re: Ray Rice

[Scott Stewart]

So your saying that a man shouldn't show restraint if he is kicked,  spit
on,  cursed at etc.?

There's that issue of equivalent response again...  Let me break it down
for you...  If someone physically smaller and weaker than me slaps me and I
knock them out either by fist or foot,  that is not an equivalent
response,  I will be charged and convicted of asault,  no amount of claims
of self defense will hold up.  If I restrain that person through joint
barring or joint lock,  or simply walk away I'm in the clear.  It's pretty
much the same in all fifty States.  To take it a step further...  An
unarmed man approaches you on the street and says give me your money,  and
you shoot him dead,  you're probably going to prison. Why?  Because he was
unarmed and you didn't have to kill him to get out of the situation.

Regardless of what she did,  Ray Rice' response wasn't appropriate to the
situation.  He could have blocked her slaps,  restrained her,  or simply
gotten off the elevator.  He chose to knock her out.. Case closed.
 On Sep 9, 2014 1:27 PM, "Rick Faircloth"  wrote:

>
> I see you're expanding your vocabulary, you misogynistic douche bag
> asshole.
>
> Train your daughters, if you have any, to treat men any way they feel
> like it,
> and see how much trouble it brings them.
>
> Most men, like myself, would simply control them physically to stop their
> assault, but some men, like Ray, might resort to more violent means.
>
> I can hear your advice, now, you misogynistic douche bag asshole,
> "Honey, you can
> kick, spit on, curse, slap, or hit a man if you want to and he is not
> allowed to
> hit you back. If he does, he is totally at fault for what happens to
> you. You
> are completely innocent."
>
> Give that advice to your daughter, you misogynistic douche bag asshole,
> and she
> may end up seriously injured or dead by following your advice.
>
> You are the one who, in the end, are the true misogynistic douche bag
> asshole, by
> teaching your daughter to live in your fantasy utopia, rather than the real
> world where violence exists.
>
> The answer to this problem can be found in the Bible (you've heard of
> that, haven't you?),
> in Ephesians 5:33: "Each one of you must love his wife...and the wife
> must respect
> her husband." When that happens from both sides, there is peace. What
> the husband
> fails to love (care for) his wife, or the wife fails to respect her
> husband, the bond is
> broken and trouble brews.
>
> Scott, you "misogynistic douche bag asshole"...
>
>
> On 9/9/2014 1:11 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
> > Whenever I need to deal with misogynistic douche bags like you, I am
> > thankful that I do not have any daughters who would have to deal with
> > bullshit like yours their entire lives.
> >
> > Nothing she did to him warranted being punched in the face.
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Rick Faircloth  >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Quote the line I wrote stating that the assaults were comparable, you
> >> asshole.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/9/2014 1:02 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
> >>> She got knocked unconscious and you think the assaults are comparable?
> >>>
> >>> You are truly a disgusting human being.
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Rick Faircloth <
> >>
> \
>
> 

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Re: Ray Rice

[Scott Stewart]

You only need two words Ray Lewis
On Sep 9, 2014 12:07 PM, "GMoney"  wrote:

>
> Oh I'll take that bet.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Scott Stewart 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Don't think for a second that another team won't pick him up once his
> > suspension is up.  Even if he does get convicted he won't spend  much
> time
> > if any in prison.
> >
> > He's got enough money to afford a good lawyer,  they'll find a lenient
> > judge and his wife will testify that he's a changed man and he'll never
> do
> > it again..  My estimate is that he'll be on someone's practice squad by
> mid
> > season and starting again next season.
> > On Sep 9, 2014 11:56 AM, "Sam"  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > The main point is she married the abuser so she could get a payout.
> > > Now TMZ ruined her life. Now she's married to a elementary school pe
> > > teacher. Wait... maybe he shouldn't be around kids with that temper.
> > >
> > > .
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Vivec  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This some new info that someone posted:
> > > >
> > > > ""Rice and Janay Palmer were both initially arrested for simple
> assault
> > > > after Rice was caught pulling his unconscious fiance out of that
> > > elevator.
> > > > The charges against Palmer were dropped and the charges against Rice
> > were
> > > > upgraded to aggravated assault six weeks later after the case was
> > > presented
> > > > to a grand jury.""
> > > >
> > > > So after another review, the charges were escalated on rice and
> dropped
> > > on
> > > > palmer. Changes my view somewhat, but not entirely.
> > > >
> > > > My view is:
> > > > Rice used too much force
> > > > No evidence so far to conclude that this is/was an abusive
> > relationship,
> > > or
> > > > that either of them are serial abusers.
> > > > His wife was an aggressor initially based on the footage outside the
> > > > elevator.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Ray Rice

[Scott Stewart]

Hell look at Ray Lewis. He killed someone..
On Sep 9, 2014 12:05 PM, "LRS Scout"  wrote:

>
> Look at McNabb
> On Sep 9, 2014 12:02 PM, "Scott Stewart" 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Don't think for a second that another team won't pick him up once his
> > suspension is up.  Even if he does get convicted he won't spend  much
> time
> > if any in prison.
> >
> > He's got enough money to afford a good lawyer,  they'll find a lenient
> > judge and his wife will testify that he's a changed man and he'll never
> do
> > it again..  My estimate is that he'll be on someone's practice squad by
> mid
> > season and starting again next season.
> > On Sep 9, 2014 11:56 AM, "Sam"  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > The main point is she married the abuser so she could get a payout.
> > > Now TMZ ruined her life. Now she's married to a elementary school pe
> > > teacher. Wait... maybe he shouldn't be around kids with that temper.
> > >
> > > .
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Vivec  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This some new info that someone posted:
> > > >
> > > > ""Rice and Janay Palmer were both initially arrested for simple
> assault
> > > > after Rice was caught pulling his unconscious fiance out of that
> > > elevator.
> > > > The charges against Palmer were dropped and the charges against Rice
> > were
> > > > upgraded to aggravated assault six weeks later after the case was
> > > presented
> > > > to a grand jury.""
> > > >
> > > > So after another review, the charges were escalated on rice and
> dropped
> > > on
> > > > palmer. Changes my view somewhat, but not entirely.
> > > >
> > > > My view is:
> > > > Rice used too much force
> > > > No evidence so far to conclude that this is/was an abusive
> > relationship,
> > > or
> > > > that either of them are serial abusers.
> > > > His wife was an aggressor initially based on the footage outside the
> > > > elevator.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Ray Rice

[Scott Stewart]

Don't think for a second that another team won't pick him up once his
suspension is up.  Even if he does get convicted he won't spend  much time
if any in prison.

He's got enough money to afford a good lawyer,  they'll find a lenient
judge and his wife will testify that he's a changed man and he'll never do
it again..  My estimate is that he'll be on someone's practice squad by mid
season and starting again next season.
On Sep 9, 2014 11:56 AM, "Sam"  wrote:

>
> The main point is she married the abuser so she could get a payout.
> Now TMZ ruined her life. Now she's married to a elementary school pe
> teacher. Wait... maybe he shouldn't be around kids with that temper.
>
> .
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Vivec  wrote:
> >
> > This some new info that someone posted:
> >
> > ""Rice and Janay Palmer were both initially arrested for simple assault
> > after Rice was caught pulling his unconscious fiance out of that
> elevator.
> > The charges against Palmer were dropped and the charges against Rice were
> > upgraded to aggravated assault six weeks later after the case was
> presented
> > to a grand jury.""
> >
> > So after another review, the charges were escalated on rice and dropped
> on
> > palmer. Changes my view somewhat, but not entirely.
> >
> > My view is:
> > Rice used too much force
> > No evidence so far to conclude that this is/was an abusive relationship,
> or
> > that either of them are serial abusers.
> > His wife was an aggressor initially based on the footage outside the
> > elevator.
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Ray Rice

[Scott Stewart]

The  shot that Rice threw wouldn't pass most states reasonable force
statutes if he hit a man.  All he needed to do to defend himself would be
to block her slaps as they came in.  This is a no brainer. Rice is guilty
of assault.

Better question,  would you feel justified in knocking your wife/girlfriend
/significant other out she slapped you...?  If your answer is yes then
you've got bigger issues.
On Sep 9, 2014 10:38 AM, "Rick Faircloth"  wrote:

>
> Women want equality. They don't want to be treated as "weaker."
>
> These are the consequences of feminism.
>
> You can't have it both ways.
>
>
> On 9/9/2014 10:33 AM, GMoney wrote:
> > What is with all these false equivalencies
> >
> > All these arguments of "Well, IF she was a man..." are completely
> > irrelevant.  She's NOT a man.
> >
> > ANd i know we want to treat anything and everything and everyone as
> equals,
> > but folks, there is simple nature at work hereand human males,
> > generally, are larger and stronger than females. I have no problem with
> our
> > laws and our general sense of moral decency reflecting that.
> >
> > If a woman half your size attacks you with a slap...you do NOT have the
> > moral right to land a left hook that looked like something out of Tyson's
> > PUnch Out.
> >
> > If that double standard bothers you..deal with it.
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Vivec  wrote:
> >
> >> Today the wife apologised for her role in the incident.
> >>
> >> If the wife was an athlete, and stronger than Rice, and the same thing
> had
> >> happened
> >> I just don't think that anyone would be blaming her 100% for what
> happened.
> >>
> >> There is a total skew when it comes to situations involving violence
> >> between a man and a woman.
> >>
> >> I also did not see two punches. I saw a single slap when she charged him
> >> with fists flying.
> >>
> >> This was not a passive abusive scenario. It also was not a scenario
> where
> >> the wife was fighting back to protect herself, she was the aggressor.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
> 

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RE: Sometimes...

[Scott Stewart]

Uhmmm that's kind of unnecessary,  we never physically stand at our stand
ups.
On Aug 5, 2014 10:41 AM, "Eric Roberts" 
wrote:

>
> I also have an issue with this gimmicky stand up crap...way to make a
> disabled person stand out and feel singled out...i always feel
> uncomfortable
> in those because everyone else is standing up and I have to sit down.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 8:18 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Sometimes...
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Cameron Childress 
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I disagree with this.
> >
> > It's true that sometimes if a client wants something done a certain
> > way, even if you now it's wrong, you just have to do it.
> >
> > However, if the client is asking me to do something systemically and
> > fundamentally wrong that will destroy my soul and make me want to
> > slowly kill myself by eating glass shards... Those things I will not do.
> >
> > You are the only person in control of your destiny.
> >
>
> I love ya Cam, but that's a little melodramatic. I'm not talking about
> contract killings here...just clients who want to attend my daily
> standups.
>
> Annoying, non-Agilebut not exactly soul crushing :)
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Sometimes...

[Scott Stewart]

We alot no more than an hour for the retro, and only at the end of a sprint
which winds up being every two weeks.

If the PO has been grooming the backlog like he should sprint planning
shouldn't take a long time. We even built in time to demo each user story
for a sprint.

Our dailies are no more than 15 minutes, and limited to what did you do
yesterday and what are you doing today, anything else is taken off line.


On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:21 PM, GMoney  wrote:

>
> The planning and retrospective meetings are the ones that take forever.
>
> If your daily standup is an hour long, then yes, you are doing something
> wrong.
>
> It's the day long planning and retrospectives that drive me nuts.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Eric Roberts <
> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > We have an hour meeting every day for our scrum, plus a retrospective
> and a
> > scrum panning session during a new sprint.  Those meetings can go up to 2
> > hrs...I think it is just an excuse for management not to do it's job...
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 10:41 AM
> > To: cf-community
> > Subject: Re: Sometimes...
> >
> >
> > Againif you spend that much time in meetings, you are not doing
> 'agile'
> > correctly.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 8:32 AM, GMoney  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > AMEN!!!
> > >
> > > Our shop is going full blown Agile, and the meetings are driving me
> nuts.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
> > > < ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > LoL, that is priceless.
> > > >
> > > > I'm so glad our team isn't agile. Waste of frigging time that is...
> > > >
> > > > 2 days a sprint wasted to meetings.
> > > >
> > > > Working with the agile process I see LOL
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:chumph...@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 1:14 PM
> > > > To: cf-community
> > > > Subject: Sometimes...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, have to vent.  Work's being a bit more "bang head here"-ish
> > > > than usual.  Guess the next skills I need to develop to advance my
> > > > career are telepathy, time travel and insomnia.
> > > >
> > > > Happy Friday, folks!
> > > >
> > > > Until Later!
> > > > C. Hatton Humphrey
> > > > http://www.eastcoastconservative.com
> > > >
> > > > Every cloud does have a silver lining.  Sometimes you just have to
> > > > do
> > > some
> > > > smelting to find it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Sometimes...

[Scott Stewart]

+1


On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Scott Stroz  wrote:

>
> Againif you spend that much time in meetings, you are not doing 'agile'
> correctly.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 8:32 AM, GMoney  wrote:
>
> >
> > AMEN!!!
> >
> > Our shop is going full blown Agile, and the meetings are driving me nuts.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions <
> > ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > LoL, that is priceless.
> > >
> > > I'm so glad our team isn't agile. Waste of frigging time that is...
> > >
> > > 2 days a sprint wasted to meetings.
> > >
> > > Working with the agile process I see LOL
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:chumph...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 1:14 PM
> > > To: cf-community
> > > Subject: Sometimes...
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry, have to vent.  Work's being a bit more "bang head here"-ish than
> > > usual.  Guess the next skills I need to develop to advance my career
> are
> > > telepathy, time travel and insomnia.
> > >
> > > Happy Friday, folks!
> > >
> > > Until Later!
> > > C. Hatton Humphrey
> > > http://www.eastcoastconservative.com
> > >
> > > Every cloud does have a silver lining.  Sometimes you just have to do
> > some
> > > smelting to find it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: jquery tabbing

[Scott Stewart]

You can alter the jQuery UI tabs by manipulating the existing CSS, or use
the themeroller at jQueryUI.com


On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Eric Roberts <
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:

>
> I am looking for a good multi-row tabbing system, preferably in jquery.  I
> tried using the standard tabs and that just doesn't look right in my
> book...i am looking for something better...here is what I currently have:
> http://www.valerieburd.com/index.cfm?bodypage=events2.cfm#tabs-1
>
> The extra row is just copied.  This will have more than 2 rows...i probably
> have enough to do 3 or 4 already and we will have more events in the coming
> months.  This is using the standard tabbing...
>
> If anyone knows of anything better, I would appreciate it.
>
> Eric
>
>
> 

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Re: Crossfit experiences?

[Scott Stewart]

I haven't done it, but I know people in the martial arts community that
have.They say that it's pretty dangerous, because of the emphasis on speed
and reps over form and safety.



On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Judah McAuley 
wrote:

>
> I'm thinking about giving Crossfit a try. They have a Jump Start class that
> is 75 minutes, twice a week for 4 weeks as an intro where they do body
> analysis, help figure out your personal limitations in movement, set up
> core exercises and such. Sounds like the sort of structured introduction
> I'd like and I find the functional/integrative approach to working out
> appealing.
>
> Anyone here had experiences pro/con with Crossfit?
>
> Cheers,
> Judah
>
>
> 

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Re: how can people be this dumb?

[Scott Stewart]

They set up the fuel system with a switch that dumps extra fuel causing an
over rich fuel situation. I was sitting at a light in Winchester  VA when
one of these knuckleheads pulled up and started revving  I started
laughing when the smoke turned from black to white :)
On Jul 10, 2014 12:50 PM, "C. Hatton Humphrey"  wrote:

>
> I saw this as well and looked it up... it's not coal, rather it's diesel
> set to burn in a way that produces the smoke.
>
> Regardless, it's stupid... I used to know who wasn't paying for their tires
> by hearing them burn-out.  This strikes me as much the same.
>
> Until Later!
> C. Hatton Humphrey
> http://www.eastcoastconservative.com
>
> Every cloud does have a silver lining.  Sometimes you just have to do some
> smelting to find it.
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Cameron Childress 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I'd seen this a few weeks back, but really figured I'd see something on
> > > snopes about it since you've really got to be an idiot to do
> > > thisalasit does look like this is really happening
> > >
> >
> > I saw this on FB last week.
> >
> > Morons. Willful ignorance at it's worst.
> >
> > -Cameron
> >
> > ...
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Striving for Perfection

[Scott Stewart]

Windows 2008 Server (only because it's what I'm used to)
Apache
ColdFusion
MSSQL Server or MySQL
jQuery
CSS V.3
ColdFusion Session vars
MVC/DAO Design patterns
SVN
CFBuilder
Don't know about documentation tools
Hosting Environment is subjective


On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Maureen  wrote:

>
> If you could design and build the perfect website from scratch with
> your own choice of tools, technology and hosting, what would you use
> and why?
>
> Operating System
> Web Server
> Languages
> Database
> Javascript Libraries
> CSS
> Session Management
> Design Methodology
> Version Control
> IDE
> Build Tools
> Documentation Tools
> Hosting Environment
> Anything else?
>
> 

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Re: New musical toy for me!

[Scott Stewart]

Add John Myung (Dream Theater), Billy Sheehan (Talas, Mr Big, Winery 
Dogs), and John (Juan) Aldrete (Racer X, the Mars Volta)  to that list

On 5/29/2014 12:18 PM, Maureen wrote:
> That's a sweet bass.  I've been playing bass for over 50 years.  I've
> found this site very helpful, both for  beginners and for old folks
> like me to add new chops.
>
> http://www.scottsbasslessons.com/
>
> This web site has some great articles and stuff.  I read it almost
> daily: http://www.forbassplayersonly.com/
>
> Also, go to youTube and listen to the greats:  James Jamerson, Jaco
> Pastorius, Geddy Lee, Leland Sklar, Stanley Clarke, John Entwistle,
> Victor Wooten, etc. Get an idea of the style you want to learn.
>
> The best bass advice I received was from my father, who was a session
> player during the 50s and 60s.  He said "play what you hear, but only
> half of it".
>
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 12:00 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey
>  wrote:
>> I'm about to finish up my MBA and when I do I'm going to start taking
>> electric bass lessons both because I want to and because my son is taking
>> electric guitar lessons and it'll be something good for us to share.
>>
>> In anticipation I've already bought myself an early graduation gift...
>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002CZU9W/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>>
>> So, since I can already read bass clef (I'm a tuba player and sing
>> bass/baritone) but know bupkis about playing a stringed instrument, any
>> suggestions on some prep material prior to actually taking the lessons?
> 

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Re: New musical toy for me!

[Scott Stewart]

Hat.  I'm not a guitar player but I know many,  you may want to hold
off on buying an instrument without getting your hands on it first.

Every instrument is different,  and you want the one that fits you.
On May 29, 2014 12:00 PM, "C. Hatton Humphrey"  wrote:

>
> I'm about to finish up my MBA and when I do I'm going to start taking
> electric bass lessons both because I want to and because my son is taking
> electric guitar lessons and it'll be something good for us to share.
>
> In anticipation I've already bought myself an early graduation gift...
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002CZU9W/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>
> So, since I can already read bass clef (I'm a tuba player and sing
> bass/baritone) but know bupkis about playing a stringed instrument, any
> suggestions on some prep material prior to actually taking the lessons?
>
> Until Later!
> C. Hatton Humphrey
> http://www.eastcoastconservative.com
>
> Every cloud does have a silver lining.  Sometimes you just have to do some
> smelting to find it.
>
>
> 

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Re: Music thought of the day

[Scott Stewart]

Yes it is
On May 29, 2014 11:39 AM, "GMoney"  wrote:

>
> This world is a far better place when Steve Perry is on stage and singing.
>
>
> 

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Re: Joe The Plumber To UCSB Parents: 'Your Dead Kids Don't Trump' My Guns

[Scott Stewart]

Nice :)  did you mean know in the biblical manner?
On May 27, 2014 6:24 PM, "Jerry Milo Johnson"  wrote:

>
> Why are you giving this tool any part of your day? Ignore him. It will
> annoy him, maybe, and won't annoy us.
>
> Regardless of his correctness, his social skills and compassion are
> spectacularly missing. Wonder if Fred Phelps knew his mother?
>
>
> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Scott Stewart  >wrote:
>
> >
> > I agree with Judah,  however appalling Joe's words may be.
> > On May 27, 2014 6:13 PM, "Judah McAuley"  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > The dude may be a jerk, but I don't think he's wrong. That's the part
> > about
> > > Constitutional rights...they are rights even when it isn't convenient
> or
> > > pretty or nice. Freedom of speech is freedom of speech even for hateful
> > > biggots. The 14th Amendment guarantees equal protection for everyone
> and
> > > your state doesn't get to change the rules even when you think you
> have a
> > > really really good reason.
> > >
> > > I disagree with his view on what the 2nd Amendment entails but whatever
> > the
> > > current legal definition of it is, it applies even when people are
> dying.
> > >
> > > Judah
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Larry Lyons 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > http://talkingpointsmemo.
> > > > > com/livewire/joe-the-plumber-wurzelbacher-ucsb-shooting-dead-kids
> > > > >
> > > > > presented with disgust.
> > > > >
> > > > > How many more have to be sacrificed on the altar of the current
> > > > > twisted interpretation of the 2nd Amendment.
> > > >
> > > > Here's the quote that got me:
> > > > ---
> > > > I am sorry you lost your child. I myself have a son and daughter and
> > the
> > > > one thing I never want to go through, is what you are going through
> > now,
> > > > wrote Wurzelbacher, who became something of a mascot for John
> McCain’s
> > > > failed 2008 presidential campaign. But: As harsh as this sounds –
> your
> > > dead
> > > > kids don’t trump my Constitutional rights.
> > > > ---
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Joe The Plumber To UCSB Parents: 'Your Dead Kids Don't Trump' My Guns

[Scott Stewart]

I agree with Judah,  however appalling Joe's words may be.
On May 27, 2014 6:13 PM, "Judah McAuley"  wrote:

>
> The dude may be a jerk, but I don't think he's wrong. That's the part about
> Constitutional rights...they are rights even when it isn't convenient or
> pretty or nice. Freedom of speech is freedom of speech even for hateful
> biggots. The 14th Amendment guarantees equal protection for everyone and
> your state doesn't get to change the rules even when you think you have a
> really really good reason.
>
> I disagree with his view on what the 2nd Amendment entails but whatever the
> current legal definition of it is, it applies even when people are dying.
>
> Judah
>
>
> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Larry Lyons 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > > http://talkingpointsmemo.
> > > com/livewire/joe-the-plumber-wurzelbacher-ucsb-shooting-dead-kids
> > >
> > > presented with disgust.
> > >
> > > How many more have to be sacrificed on the altar of the current
> > > twisted interpretation of the 2nd Amendment.
> >
> > Here's the quote that got me:
> > ---
> > I am sorry you lost your child. I myself have a son and daughter and the
> > one thing I never want to go through, is what you are going through now,
> > wrote Wurzelbacher, who became something of a mascot for John McCain’s
> > failed 2008 presidential campaign. But: As harsh as this sounds – your
> dead
> > kids don’t trump my Constitutional rights.
> > ---
> >
> >
>
> 

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RE: Serious question

[Scott Stewart]

Pizza is best when slightly burnt,  burnt cheese is the bomb
On May 27, 2014 6:00 PM, "Eric Roberts" 
wrote:

>
> If you ever come out to Chicago Tim...I'll treat you to some real pizza ;-)
>
> Eric
>
> -Original Message-
> From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:30 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: RE: Serious question
>
>
> I have to drive 45 minutes to get a pizza I can stomach here.
>
> That cracker garbage is all the rage here.
> On May 27, 2014 5:28 PM, "Eric Roberts" 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I can't stand thin crust pizzas...if I wanted a cracker with catsup on
> > it...LOL
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:04 PM
> > To: cf-community
> > Subject: Re: Serious question
> >
> >
> > The crust is OK. It just tastes like cheaply made thin pizza crust.
> >
> > It's the "processed provel cheese" that ruins it. Provel is fine when
> > it's fresh, by itself, and taken in small doses. But processed down
> > and thrown all over a pizza in the place of genuine mozzarella..is
> criminal.
> >
> > Plus St. Louis pizzerias treat sauce like it's a rare commodity. Sauce
> > my pizza damnit!
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 3:52 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson
> > >  > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > iirc, I really liked the bbq sauced chicken and onion "pizza" in
> > > > St
> > > Louis.
> > >
> > >
> > > I just don't like the idea of the thin crust or of their "special
> blend"
> > > cheese.
> > >
> > >
> > > Until Later!
> > > C. Hatton Humphrey
> > > http://www.eastcoastconservative.com
> > >
> > > Every cloud does have a silver lining.  Sometimes you just have to
> > > do some smelting to find it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Serious question

[Scott Stewart]

>From what I understand,  while comicon is primarily comic books their is a
large anime contingent.
On May 27, 2014 12:53 PM, "Judah McAuley"  wrote:

>
> I believe that the largest Con for Anime is Anime Central, ACEN. It's held
> in Chicago every year. I have not been, as I'm not an anime fan, but from
> others that are into that sort of thing, I hear that it is pretty
> spectacular for them.
>
> http://www.acen.org/
>
> Cheers,
> Judah
>
>
> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Bruce Sorge  wrote:
>
> >
> > OK, so my wife is really into Anime and Manga. What are those events that
> > they have where all of these folks gather. I'd like to surprise her and
> > take her to one near the Columbus, GA area. I am thinking ComicCon, but I
> > am not sure.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bruce
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: New Music Thursday

[Scott Stewart]

Since were talking about "new" music I'll take the opportunity to plug 
my band, Division.
http://division.bandcamp.com/

This album is from 1997, but were working on new material for a 2014 
release.
If your wondering why the long gap, I left the band in 2003, and there 
are two other releases with a different singer, I returned in 2012, 
after the guy that replaced me quit in 2012.

It's prog-metal with a huge hint of the heavier end of the metal 
spectrum.. The new CD is *much* heavier and much more subtle in it's 
weirdness.

enjoy




On 4/17/2014 6:40 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
> Ok, I haven't done any new music drops in awhile and that is a shame, so
> here is something fascinating for you today.
>
> I have a deep love for Sturgil Simpson. He's a young country artist (might
> call him outlaw or honkytonk) from Kentucky who is an up and comer doing
> things decidedly outside the Nashville machine.  He's got solid roots but a
> definite willingness to do things his own way with no apologies to anyone
> and the dude is a hell of a guitar player and song writer.
>
> His first album under his own name was critically acclaimed and he just
> dropped his sophomore release. He could have done more of the same but,
> instead, he did something...different.
>
> New album is called Metamodern Sounds in Country Music and is largely a set
> of contemplations on metaphysics, string theory, and acid trips. It also is
> really good and rocking.  Still country, but yeah, definitely different.
>
> The first single and video is called Turtles All The Way Down and it's
> worth a watch.
>
> Here's a review, player for the album, and link to an interview and such:
> http://www.savingcountrymusic.com/sturgill-simpsons-metamodern-sounds-now-available-for-pre-order
>
> Cheers,
> Judah
>
>
> 

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Re: The Death of Expertise

[Scott Stewart]

You should here the family inhabiting the bed next to mine... They are an
example of everything that is wrong with the American education system.
On Jan 5, 2014 5:44 PM, "LRS Scout"  wrote:

>
> I actually had a strong dose of irony intended when I wrote that.
>
> Without the attendant responsibility out of control.
>
> Some people should be embarrassed to open their mouth.
> On Jan 5, 2014 5:41 PM, "Jerry Milo Johnson"  wrote:
>
> >
> > "So many subjects people feel they "have the right" to spout off on with
> > little or no knowledge or practical experience."
> >
> > Well, technically, they DO have the right to spout off.
> > On any topic, at any time, with as little knowledge or correct facts that
> > they want.
> > It's that whole "constitution" thing again.
> >
> > =0
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 1:07 PM, LRS Scout  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > "It is *exhausting*, electronically or in 3-D, to have to start from
> the
> > > very beginning of every political argument and establish the merest
> > > baseline of knowledge, and then constantly to have to negotiate the
> rules
> > > of logical argument."
> > >
> > > The lack of knowledge of the founding of our country and
> > > the evolution through history that it took to get here that I encounter
> > > daily is awe inspiring. So many subjects people feel they "have the
> > right"
> > > to spout off on with little or no knowledge or practical experience.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Bruce Sorge  wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I really enjoyed this blog entry. I'd list the parts I like, but then
> > I'd
> > > > be quoting the entire article.
> > > >
> > > > *http://tinyurl.com/khz8gjz *
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *Bruce*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Who are the DC peeps?

[Scott Stewart]

That's what it sounds like
On Dec 27, 2013 8:00 PM, "Cameron Childress"  wrote:

>
> Dr Who?
>
> On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Scott Stewart wrote:
> >
> > Bad Wolf brewing, does the name come from where I think it does?
>
>
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Re: Who are the DC peeps?

[Scott Stewart]

Bad Wolf brewing, does the name come from where I think it does?

On 12/20/2013 1:18 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
> I live about 30 miles east of DC in Manassas - I'll stand you to a few beer
> on either of the two days. I should be back in town by then. Feel free to
> look up the place online http://www.badwolfbrewingcompany.com/
>
> larry
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Bruce Sorge  wrote:
>
>> My wife and I are heading up North on the 26th to spend time with my
>> sister and her family in Va. We'll be there till the 30th or 31st. If
>> anyone on the list would like to meet up somewhere hit me up. We'll be
>> doing a couple days of self guided tours of the area.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 4S.
>>
>>
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Re: Letter to Santa

[Scott Stewart]

Nice
On Dec 18, 2013 5:10 PM, "Jerry Milo Johnson"  wrote:

>
> (2013 style)
>
> Dear Santa,
>
>
> How are you? How is Mrs. Claus? I hope everyone, from the reindeer to
>
> the elves, is fine. I have been a very good boy this year. I would like an
>
> X-Box 360 with Call of Duty IV and an iPhone 4 for Christmas. I hope you
>
> remember that come Christmas Day.
>
>
>
>
>
> Merry Christmas,
>
>
> Timmy Jones
>
> 
>
>
> Dear Timmy,
>
>
> Thank you for you letter. Mrs. Claus, the reindeer and the elves are
> all
>
> fine and thank you for asking about them. Santa is a little worried all the
>
> time you spend playing video games and texting. Santa wouldn't want you to
>
> get fat. Since you have indeed been a good boy, I think I'll bring you
>
> something you can go outside and play with.
>
>
> Merry Christmas,
>
>
> Santa Claus
>
> ***
>
>
> Mr. Claus,
>
>
> Seeing that I have fulfilled the "naughty vs. nice" contract, set by
> you
>
> I might add, I feel confident that you can see your way clear to granting
> me
>
> what I have asked for. I certainly wouldn't want to turn this joyous season
>
> into one of litigation. Also, don't you think that a jibe at my weight
>
> coming from an overweight man who goes out once a year is a bit trite?
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
>
> Tim Jones
>
> 
>
>
> Mr. Jones,
>
>
> While I have acknowledged you have met the "nice" criteria, need I
>
> remind you that your Christmas list is a request and in no way is it a
>
> guarantee of services provided. Should you wish to pursue legal action,
> well
>
> that is your right. Please know, however, that my attorney's have been on
>
> retainer ever since the Burgermeister Meisterburger incident and will be
>
> more than happy to take you on in open court. Additionally, the exercise I
>
> alluded to will not only improve your health, but also improve you social
>
> skills and potentially help clear up a complexion that looks like the
> bottom
>
> of the Burger King fry bin most days.
>
>
> Very Truly Yours,
>
>
> S Claus
>
> ***
>
>
> Now look here Fat Man,
>
>
> I told you what I want and I expect you to bring it. I was attempting
> to
>
> be polite about this but you brought my looks and my friends into this. Now
>
> you just be disrespecting me. I'm about to tweet my boys and we're gonna be
>
> waiting for your fat ass and I'm taking my game console, my game, my phone,
>
> and whatever else I want. WHAT EVER I WANT, MAN!
>
>
> T-Bone
>
> 
>
>
> Listen Pizza Face,
>
>
> Seriously???   You think a dude that breaks into every house in the
>
> world on one night and never gets caught sweats a skinny g-banger wannabe?
>
> "He sees you when you're sleeping; He knows when you're awake". Sound
>
> familiar, genius? You know what kind of resources I have at my disposal? I
>
> got your shit wired, Jack. I go all around the world and see ways to hurt
>
> people that if I described them right now, you'd throw up your Totino's
>
> pizza roll all over the carpet of your mom's basement. You're not getting
>
> what you asked for, but I'm still stopping by your crib to stomp a mud hole
>
> in your ass and then walk it dry. Chew on that, Petunia.
>
>
> S Clizzy
>
> 
>
>
> Dear Santa,
>
>
> Bring me whatever you see fit. I'll appreciate anything.
>
>
> Timmy
>
> *
>
>
> Timmy,
>
>
> That's what I thought, you little bastard.
>
>
> Santa
>
>
> 

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Re: Happy Thanksgiving.

[Scott Stewart]

Awesomeness
On Dec 3, 2013 3:13 AM, "LRS Scout"  wrote:

>
> At the very last minute I had a friend come ask if I would host and cook if
> they would provide the food.  I was in the pits about the holiday,  and
> here's my holiday miracle.
>
> God bless us every one!
>
> Our menu is amazing.
>
> Seems like everything is either brown sugar or molasses glazed, and there's
> more than one dish with bacon in the name!
>
> Happy Thanksgiving!
>
>
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Re: Thinking of dumping satellite

[Scott Stewart]

49 but I don't look it :)
On Nov 19, 2013 8:52 AM, "Cameron Childress"  wrote:

>
> Time for the ole age sound off?
>
> 40 here
>
> On Nov 18, 2013, at 6:57 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
> > I bet I'm older!
>
> 

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Re: Light text editor with CF color coding?

[Scott Stewart]

+1000 for Larry's suggestion, Notepad ++ is my goto when my Citrix
environment decides to drag.  There's a ColdFusion plug in available for
it.
On Nov 11, 2013 8:46 PM, "LRS Scout"  wrote:

>
> I'm working on an older machine.  I've picked up some side work and I'm
> trying to get up to speed.
>
> I was an eclipse guy and homesite/Studio before that.
>
> All I really need is color coding, insight would be nice but not required.
>
> What's out there?  32 bit Win XP?
>
>
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Re: This guy is a coward...

[Scott Stewart]

I think "asshole" sums it pretty well.
On Sep 17, 2013 8:08 PM, "Scott Stroz"  wrote:

>
> http://bit.ly/1688xrc
>
> I not only know the official who was assaulted, but have officiates
> football games where the person who committed the assault was on the
> sidelines.
>
> What is not in the story is that he 'sucker punched' the official. A 'world
> champion' arm wrestler sucker punched a 63 year old man, and then ran away.
>
> Coward is the only word I can think of to describe this guy.
>
> --
> Scott Stroz
> ---
> You can make things happen, you can watch things happen or you can wonder
> what the f*&k happened. - Cpt. Phil Harris
>
> http://xkcd.com/386/
>
>
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Re: Scientists hate the GOP for a reason - Salon.com

[Scott Stewart]

I agree with the sentiment that science shouldn't be politicized. It
shouldn't be partisan at all (bi or otherwise) it needs to be above the
stupidity that is partisan politics.
On Aug 31, 2013 1:57 PM, "Larry C. Lyons"  wrote:

>
> http://www.salon.com/2013/01/11/scientists_hate_the_gop_for_a_reason/
>
> presented without a comment.
>
>
> 

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Re: Where I am

[Scott Stewart]

That blows... I hope.everything gets worked out soon... I may have a house
in Raleigh for.sale.in.may if your interested.
On Aug 28, 2013 4:23 PM, "Michael Dinowitz" 
wrote:

>
> The answer to the subject is nowhere. I had to move out of my apartment of
> 18 years at the end of July. I was supposed to move into a new place a few
> days before the end, having previously given the new landlord a deposit. He
> begged off saying that the house was not ready and could we wait for Sunday
> (the 4th). At this point we also gave him a check for the first months rent
> and security.
> We moved all of our stuff into the garage, basement, and side yard of my
> parents house and stayed over the weekend. Sunday came along and the
> landlord said he wasn't comfortable letting us move in without a lease and
> he was waiting for one from his lawyer. A standard one from Staples wasn't
> good enough.
> Monday rolls along and we hear that his lawyer said that he should not give
> the lease to us but instead should give it to our lawyer. We got a friend
> to give his lawyers number and we waited. and called. and waited. and
> called.
> Thursday we finally hear from him saying that he decided not to take us as
> tenants and the reason
>  was that he tried to cash the rent/security check and it bounced. The
> account was $20 short and the bank didn't extend protection to the check.
> Maybe it was because he was using a check cashing place to avoid the money
> showing up in a bank account and coming to the attention of his soon to be
> ex-wife. Either way, he flaked on us.
> So now we're stuck in my parents house, living out of bags of clothing, our
> stuff packed away, no phone, no internet, and trying to find a new
> apartment before the holidays (starting next week). Add to this a new
> contract with the city for me, school for all of the kids other than my
> youngest daughter, who we had to find a new school for, and my mother has
> to go into the hospital to get what was said to be a bunch of tumors
> biopsied. Oh, and because I was wy to late on invoicing a client, I'm
> out about 20k which I was depending on to deal with apartment and yeshivas.
> But I'm alive so at least I've got that in my favor. That's a good thing
> right? right?
>
>
> 

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Re: updating an antique app.

[Scott Stewart]

I'm facing something similar with the added aspect of a customer mandated
"framework" (think FB 1). At the minimum get everything properly scoped and
broken out into reasonably sized encapsulated components

With this app I do have enough leeway to use MVC, the question is: can I do
it in a month.
On Aug 22, 2013 3:30 PM, "Larry C. Lyons"  wrote:

>
> I'm taking a very old legacy app written in CF (really old CF code) and
> later upgraded to Fusebox 4. The powers that be want me to provide some
> estimates of what it would take to clean up the code (the security issues
> alone is quite scary), and give the application a modern front end (HTML5,
> CSS3 jQuery). That part isn't so much of a conundrum. But last but
> definitely not least update the application to Fusebox 5.5.
>
> I have not touched fusebox for quite a long time. Do you have any
> suggestions for upgrading from FB4 to FB5? Are there any gotchas or issues
> I need to worry about.
>
> Many thanks all,
>
> larry
>
>
> 

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Re: 'Fair and Balanced' my ass

[Scott Stewart]

And now there is coffee in my keyboard
On Jul 30, 2013 8:07 AM, "Scott Stroz"  wrote:

>
> I wonder if Green interviewed JK Rowling if she would ask why Rowling, as a
> muggle, has a right to write a book about wizards.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:20 AM, Vivec  wrote:
>
> >
> > I thought I would post this here, as it highlights why journalists and
> most
> > people consider the "interview" to be a biased attack on the author.
> >
> > *" On Friday, Fox News' Lauren Green aggressively questioned religious
> > scholar Reza Aslan over why he, a Muslim, would choose to write a book
> > about Jesus Christ. During the length of the increasingly absurd
> 10-minute
> > segment, that implied criticism quickly became direct with Green accusing
> > the author of Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of
> > Nazareth
> > ** of being incapable of providing an unbiased academic account because
> of
> > his faith, and even wrongly claiming that Aslan had gone to great lengths
> > to hide the fact he is Muslim."*
> >
> > We know this is a lie, and the Author never hid the fact he was a muslim,
> > nor did he try to. Why would a credible news anchor make such a statement
> > if the intention was not to push an agenda? It's either they brought the
> > man on to embarrass him, or the anchor is incompetent and did not do the
> > least bit of fact checking before the "interview".
> >
> > Sam do you think the interviewer displayed competence and was
> professional
> > in her handling of this interview?
> >
> > She never read even the first few pages of the book on which she is
> > interviewing the author.
> > She didn't even skim it, or read the crib notes. Then she brings
> > accusations which are totally incorrect.
> >
> > *""I think the fundamental problem here is that you're assuming that I
> have
> > some type of faith-based bias in this work that I write," he told Green,
> > putting the interview's absurdity into words for anyone struggling to at
> > home. "My job as a scholar of religions is to write about religions ...
> and
> > one of the religions that I've written about is the one that was launched
> > by Jesus," he continued. "I think it's unfair to just simply assume that
> > because of my particular faith background that there's some type of faith
> > agenda with this book." *
> >
> > And that is the clincher. The interviewer's entire purpose was to ascribe
> > bigotry and bias to the author because he was a muslim writing about
> Jesus
> > Christ. Which given the author's background is so stupid that only those
> > completely blinded by the agenda of Faux could not see it.
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/07/29/reza_aslan_book_sales_zealot_author_knew_what_he_was_doing_on_fox_news_that.html
> >
> > The notion that an entire segment could be based around furthering the
> > bigoted attitude that muslims cannot comment on Christianity, and pushing
> > the agenda that muslims are intrinsically anti-christian, is rather
> > abhorrent.
> > Taking into account the interviewer's unprofessionalism alone should be
> > enough for people to see there was something wrong with the interview.
> >
> > Of course, if you DO hold the view that all muslims are anti-christian,
> and
> > you DO hold the view that the author set out to write a book tearing down
> > Christianity, and vilifying Jesus Christ, then perhaps you would overlook
> > all of that. And that is exactly the mindset that Faux set out to support
> > and who the segment caters for.
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: Has the G.O.P. Gone Off the Deep End?

[Scott Stewart]

Who? Larry? No he's in Prince William County which is.east of Loudoun. He's
about 50 miles from the line.
The douche that he's referring to is the rep. from the district adjacent to
mine.
On Jul 19, 2013 9:12 AM, "Sam"  wrote:

>
> You live on the border of West Virginia and you're complaining about local
> politics? Really?
>
> .
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Larry C. Lyons  >wrote:
>
> >
> > He had to have enough support to get nominated. Moreover you said nothing
> > about AG nominee Mark Obenshain - who is part of the party establishment
> > who proposed a bill which would have made it a felony for a woman not to
> > report a miscarriage to the police,
> > http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?091+sum+SB962 He also has
> some
> > fairly extremist views in other areas as well.
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/va-politics/in-race-for-virginia-attorney-general-abortion-takes-on-greater-intensity/2013/06/25/4b122118-d9bf-11e2-9df4-895344c13c30_story.html
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Sam  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > E.W Jackson was nominated for lieutenant Governor for Virginia
> > > That hardly makes him a "leader" since most people never heard of him.
> > >
> > > .
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Vivec  wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Not republicans, the leaders of the republican party.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Re: Has the G.O.P. Gone Off the Deep End?

[Scott Stewart]

Hmmm... Rep. Delgaudio, methinks thou doth protest too much.
On Jul 19, 2013 9:01 AM, "Larry C. Lyons"  wrote:

>
> That about nails it.
>
> At the same time it goes throughout the party. For instance one of the
> Loudoun county VA (jus toutside of the DC area) commissioners was recently
> censured for running what has been labeled an anti-gay hate group and using
> county staff to send out anti-gay hate screeds.
>
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/loudoun-board-disciplines-delgaudio/2013/07/17/d7fa2d20-ef2a-11e2-bed3-b9b6fe264871_story.html
>
> But anyhow here's a sample of the drivel he was sending out:
> -
> One stormy night I drove to a mailshop hidden deep in a nearly deserted
> stand of warehouses. I’d heard something was up and wanted to see for
> myself. As I rounded the final turn my eyes nearly popped. Tractor-trailers
> pulled up to loading docks, cars and vans everywhere and long-haired,
> earring-pierced men scurrying around running forklifts, inserters and huge
> printing presses. Trembling with worry I went inside. It was worse than I
> ever imagined. Row after row of boxes bulging with pro-homosexual petitions
> lined the walls, stacked to the ceiling. My mind reeled as I realized
> hundreds, maybe thousands, more boxes were already loaded on the
> tractor-trailers. And still more petitions were flying off the press.
> Suddenly a dark-haired man screeched, “Delgaudio what are you doing here?”
> Dozens of men began moving toward me. I’d been recognized. As I retreated
> to my car, the man chortled, “This time Delgaudio we can’t lose.” Driving
> away, my eyes filled with tears as I realized he might be right. This time
> the Radical Homosexuals could win.
> -
> The guy is a nutcase.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Scott Stroz  wrote:
>
> >
> > I don't feel a majority of Republicans are truly anti-science, etc.
> >
> > However, I also do not feel that a majority of Republicans (elected and
> > part of constituency) do an adequate job of shutting down the (very)
> vocal
> > minority that are. By not standing up to the nut jobs and remaining
> silent,
> > it give the perception of approval.
> >
> > Not to mention, I think a lot of elected Republicans cater to the whims
> of
> > the (very) vocal minority to keep favor with 'the party' and campaign
> > contributors.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Sam  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > All too often we’re associated with being anti-everything. Way too many
> > > people believe Republicans are anti-immigrant, anti-woman,
> anti-science,
> > > anti-gay, anti-worker, and the list goes on and on and on. Many voters
> > are
> > > simply unwilling to choose our candidates, even though they share our
> > core
> > > beliefs, because those voters feel unloved, unwanted and unwelcome in
> our
> > > party.
> > >
> > >
> > > The media has succeeded in destroying conservatism and creating a love
> > > affair with socialism.
> > >
> > > The end.
> > >
> > > .
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Cameron Childress  > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/17/has-the-g-o-p-gone-off-the-deep-end/
> > > >
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Re: World less peaceful than five years ago

[Scott Stewart]

+1000, The more we start getting involved in every civil war and
international dust up. The more inclined I am to think that 40 year's of
ham fisted failed domestic policies is starting to come home and bite us in
the ass. It may be time to close up shop, and focus solely on domestic
issues and let the rest of the world deal with life on their own for few
decades.
On Jun 17, 2013 8:17 AM, "Scott Stroz"  wrote:

>
> The more the world goes to shit the more what I used to (mostly) joke about
> seems like a good idea:
>
> Pull ALL of our troops home, lock the borders and hang a sign out for the
> rest of the world that reads: 'We are getting our shit together. When we
> are done, we will be back'
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:00 AM, LRS Scout  wrote:
>
> >
> > I felt admit i was very hawkish at the time and very much in favor of the
> > invasion.  I was in uniform part time and at DOS/DSS/OSAC full time and
> > quite honestly knew better. I was so angry post 9/11 that I blamed the
> > whole Muslim world.
> >
> > This country doesn't have the stomach to do what would need to be done to
> > win. Enough shut down come home. Stop arming everyone. Stop getting and
> > helping. The fatwas say they want us gone. Give it to them. We don't need
> > there oil and the innovation will be good for both the economy and the
> > environment.
> >
> > Enough.
> > On Jun 16, 2013 11:49 PM, "Scott Stroz"  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I am not sure I was on this list we we invaded Iraq, but I feel the
> same
> > > way about Syria that I felt about Iraq and Afghanistan. It is a no win
> > > situation.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Maureen 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Where was your outrage when Bush started those wars?
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Jerry Barnes 
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "As always, follow the money."
> > > > >
> > > > > And then follow our young men, and now women, go to the Middle East
> > > (and
> > > > > Africa and Asia if you're paying attention) to "help".
> > > > >
> > > > > Hmmm.  Where is the outrage displayed by some when Bush started the
> > war
> > > > > machine in Afghanistan and Iraq?
> > > > >
> > > > > What's different this time?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Re: Bomb at boston marathon.

[Scott Stewart]

DC is on alert. No lockdowns. Were fine out in the Virginia Boonies. A bit
pissed.. a lot sad, but Im really glad my daughter is to young to even
fathom this.
On Apr 15, 2013 11:26 PM, "Scott Stroz"  wrote:

>
> We are fine down here in WV, thanx, though, Tim.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 8:31 PM, LRS Scout  wrote:
>
> >
> > You and yours ok?
> >
> > Anyone else?
> >
> > Stroz?
> > On Apr 15, 2013 5:08 PM, "Jerry Milo Johnson"  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > If anyone is stuck or in need of assistance in or around Boston because
> > of
> > > this, let me know?
> > >
> > > Just south of there in Quincy.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Vivec  wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Bruce, everything I am hearing about this so far, seems to suggest
> this
> > > was
> > > > not foreigners :(
> > > >
> > > > But it will all be told in time I am sure.
> > > >
> > > > Third explosion confirmed at JFK Library. They are telling people to
> > head
> > > > indoors and stay in hotels.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 15 April 2013 16:47, Bruce Sorge  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm going with Hajji.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Re: Opportunity to Make 10K: CREATIONIST OFFERS $10,000 TO ANY EVOLUTIONIST WHO CAN SCIENTIFICALLY DISPROVE GENESIS IN COURT

[Scott Stewart]

It does, and there's quantifiable proof that the universe is several
billion years old. A creationist has to throw all this out before their
side has any merit.
On Mar 28, 2013 4:51 PM, "LRS Scout"  wrote:

>
> Doesn't carbon dating prove the planet is more than 6000 years old?
> On Mar 28, 2013 4:49 PM, "Maureen"  wrote:
>
> >
> > Has he defined what he would accept as proof?  If not, the game is
> > rigged worse than an off-strip Vegas casino.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Jerry Barnes 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > "That contradicts the headline which says he is willing to give 10K.
> > That's
> > > just him placing a bet that he is right."
> > >
> > >
> > > At least he's willing to put some skin in the game, unlike others  . .
> .
> >
> >
>
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Re: It Takes a B.A. to Find a Job as a File Clerk

[Scott Stewart]

On 2/20/2013 3:34 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
> It Takes a B.A. to Find a Job as a File Clerk (
> http://www.cnbc.com/id/100474974 )
>
> The college degree is becoming the new high school diploma: the new minimum
> requirement, albeit an expensive one, for getting even the lowest-level job.
>
> Consider the 45-person law firm of Busch, Slipakoff & Schuh here in
> Atlanta, a place that has seen tremendous growth in the college-educated
> population. Like other employers across the country, the firm hires only
> people with a bachelor's degree, even for jobs that do not require
> college-level skills.
>
> This prerequisite applies to everyone, including the receptionist,
> paralegals, administrative assistants and file clerks. Even the office
> "runner" — the in-house courier who, for $10 an hour, ferries documents
> back and forth between the courthouse and the office — went to a four-year
> school.
> "College graduates are just more career-oriented," said Adam Slipakoff, the
> firm's managing partner. "Going to college means they are making a real
> commitment to their futures. They're not just looking for a paycheck."
>
>
>
> I am going to have to call bullshit on Adam.  The only reason they can pay
> a office runner with a BA such a low fee is because the office runner can't
> find anything else.  Let's see:  A 19 year old high school graduate for 10
> dollars an hour or a 23 year old college graduate for 10 dollars an hour.
>   No brainer.
>
> Degree deflation and loan inflation.  Awesome combo.
>
> J
>
> -
>
> Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation.
> - Henry Kissinger
>
> Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel,
> go out and buy some more tunnel. - John Quinton
>
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Re: 15 year old invents New Method of Diagnosing Cancer

[Scott Stewart]

Smithsonian magazine did an article on this kid. He's a freaking genius..
and this isn't his only invention.
On Feb 11, 2013 1:28 PM, "Sam"  wrote:

>
>
> http://apps.societyforscience.org/intelisef2012/project.cfm?PID=ME028&CFID=28485&CFTOKEN=10931553
>
> The sensor costs $3.00; 10 tests can be performed per strip. A test
> takes 5 minutes and is 168 times faster, 26,667 times less expensive,
> and 400 times more sensitive than ELISA, 25% to 50% more accurate than
> the CA10-9 test and is a sensitive, accurate, inexpensive, and rapid
> screening tool to detect mesothelin, a biomarker for pancreatic
> cancer.
>
> That's awesome.
>
> .
>
> 

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Re: OK, this is interesting

[Scott Stewart]

Old School Death Metal

On 2/7/2013 2:23 PM, GMoney wrote:
> Impaled Nazarene!!
>
> bwahahahahahahahahahaoh crapi dunno why i find that so
> funny...
>
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
>> What do these guys have against metal bands
>>
>> (mind you I agree with the last line).
>>
>> http://i.imgur.com/udhhEmO.gif
>>
>> --
>> Larry C. Lyons
>> web: http://www.lyonsmorris.com/lyons
>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/larryclyons
>>
>>
>>
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Re: OK, this is interesting

[Scott Stewart]

On 2/7/2013 2:19 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
> What do these guys have against metal bands
>
> (mind you I agree with the last line).
>
> http://i.imgur.com/udhhEmO.gif
>
> They missed so many bands, where's Slayer for fuck's sake

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Looking for CF Devs

[Scott Stewart]

Hey all,

I need to ask some favors.  The company that I work for is in need of 
mid and senior level ColdFusion developers for a DHS USCIS contract. We 
haven't had a lot of luck with getting good candidates in the door.  
I've got two but I need two more.

I'm posting this here, because posting on the jobs list is going to get 
me more of the same, to be quite honest, and I wanted to reach out to 
people that I know are competent developers, to see if they know anyone 
who's looking..

What we need is:

Someone who has at least five years of experience.
A US Citizen, it's a requirement for the contract.
Someone who is clearable, and can maintain clearance.
Versed in frameworks, although the in house one is very basic.
Versed in CFC's and basic OO ColdFusion Development
Some Agile/SCRUM experience would be nice.
USCIS or DHS experience would be nice.

They do need to either live in the DC Metro Area or be willing to 
relocate for a long term position. All work is to be done at our site in 
Tyson's Corner, VA.
You would be an employee, we're not a recruiter or headhunter. We have 
good benefits and competitive pay

If you know someone, shoot me an email @ scott.stew...@metters.com, and 
I can send out the full req.

Thanks all in advance.

sas

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Re: cf conferences?

[Scott Stewart]

There's RIACon
https://www.riacon.com/

I don't know if this is the "official" replacement for CFUnited but who 
knows

On 1/11/2013 7:26 AM, Cameron Childress wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 6:00 AM, Paul Ihrig  wrote:
>
>> is max the only thing left? cfunited gone?
>>
> Yes, CFUnited is done. MAX won't have any CF content this year either.
>
> cf.Objective is probably the largest of the remaining conferences, but
> there are a number of other regional ones too:
>
> http://www.carehart.org/cf411/#cfconf
> (I don't think that the unconference mentioned at MAX is happening in 2013,
> someone please correct me if I am wrong)
>
> -Cameron
>
> ..
>
>
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Re: TV Shows for 2013 (aka Documentary or Mockumentary?)

[Scott Stewart]

ugh .. and people wonder why I don't watch TV
(except for Redskins Football, Capitals Hockey and BBC America)

On 1/9/2013 3:01 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote:
> Has anyone else heard about this show: "All My Babies Mamas"
> http://blogs.babycenter.com/celebrities/all-my-babies-mamas-preview-01072013-trailer-shawty-lo/
>
> It's a new show coming up on Oxygen that follows "Shawty Lo", his
> girlfriend and the 10 other women that bore him 11 total children.
>
> Mr "Lo" is a 36 year old rapper in Atlanta.
>
> I guess this is a new twist to get around those pesky polygamy laws??
>
> Oh, and there are several groups calling for it to be cancelled before the
> first episode airs.
>
> So this is what TV is coming to these days?  Let's see:
> "All My Babies Mamas" (described above)
> "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo" If you don't know, be glad
> "The Sisterhood" follows 5 preachers' wives
> "Double Divas" follows two owners of a lingerer store.
> Several twists & spins on Jersey Shore, including Buckwild (country) and
> Washington Heights (New York)
> Cyndi Lauper: Still So Unusual - Let's follow Cyndi Lauper around with a
> camera
> King of the Nerds: Survivor meets an encyclopedia, maybe?
> Built: Follows 5 male models that happen to be carpenters.
> Immortalized: Two words you would never think to hear together -
> competitive taxidermy.
>
> I'm sure there are more but my brain just melted and started leaking out my
> ear.
>
> Until Later!
> C. Hatton Humphrey
> http://www.eastcoastconservative.com
>
> Every cloud does have a silver lining.  Sometimes you just have to do some
> smelting to find it.
>
>
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Re: CF10 - Last Edition?

[Scott Stewart]

I'm not sure how much of a "leader" John is or isn't. When Ben Forta 
says it I'll worry about it.

As for now, the Adobe ColdFusion Blog 
http://blogs.coldfusion.com/post.cfm/coldfusion-news-initiatives-and-updates-from-adobe
 
seems to suggests a new push to
revitalize CFUG's, a shorter development cycle and new education 
initiatives..

Plus the roadmap 
http://blogs.coldfusion.com/assets/content/roadmap/ColdFusion%20RoadMap.pdf 
extends out past 2020..

Doesn't sound to me like a product that's on it's last release.

On 1/9/2013 2:13 PM, Theresa Temple wrote:
> I know it's an older post, but did anyone see this blog entry by John Mason:
> http://www.codfusion.com/blog/post.cfm/coldfusion-10-the-last-edition-from-adobe
> I am rather astonished to see an article like this from a leader in the CF 
> Community.
>
> It's rather discouraging to read to say the least, but then reading Judith 
> Dinowitz's well written meeting panel notes from the CFML 2012: State of the 
> Platform meeting, I am looking forward to the mid- or late January panel 
> updates, and hoping for the best.
>
> It was interesting to read the notes of the panel about how PHP was on the 
> rise. I figured it would be more of a combination of CFML, HTML5, CSS and 
> JQuery being on the rise given the recent strong mobile app market growth. I 
> know that "Splendor" promises Streamlined Mobile Application Development and 
> "Thunder" includes End-to-end Mobile Application Development Workflow, but I 
> think those features are overdue. Although I'm not sure exactly what these 
> features entail, I am hopeful there is some sort of CFML to Mobile conversion 
> kit included. A pipe dream, I'm sure, but it should would make a nice 
> addition to CF10 and perhaps make up for the befuddled release.
>
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Re: family tragedy...

[Scott Stewart]

I have no words ...except I'm sorry 


On 1/2/2013 11:50 PM, Eric Roberts wrote:
> Last night, while on the way home to Texas from visiting family here in the
> Chicago area, my son-in-law, stepdaughter, and their 2 kids were rear ended
> by a drunk driver going 100mph just outside of Little Rock, AR.  My
> grandson, Robby Jr.,  passed away today.  They took him off of life support
> today to see if he could breathe on his own and he couldn't.  He was 1 month
> old.  The rest of them are fine with only minor injuries, thank the gods.
> Shortly after they were struck, another car carrying the family of a Little
> Rock minister hit my stepdaughter's car.  The minister and his 10 year
> granddaughter were also killed.
>
> We just saw them the other day when they came over to visit.  He was a
> perfect little baby...all smiles and giggles.  Please keep my stepdaughter
> and son in law in your prayers.  They are going through what has to be the
> hardest thing they will ever face in their lives.  Parents should never have
> to bury their children.
>
> The do have the drunk driver in custody...he has the blood of three people
> on his hands...I hope they find a deep dark cell and let him rot...
>
>
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Re: Michael in the hospital

[Scott Stewart]

Oh wow.. here's to a speedy recovery .. Michael you're in my thoughts 
and prayers

On 12/12/2012 10:40 AM, Judith Dinowitz wrote:
> Just a quick update to let you all know that we went to the emergency room
> Sunday night because Michael had severe stomach pain. After doing some
> tests, going back home, and coming back to the ER again on Monday
> afternoon, they discovered that Michael has a gallbladder infection,
> colitis and gallstones, and a couple of other infections to boot. He's a
> little bit better now (on major antibiotics) and they hope that he'll come
> home this afternoon. We're going to have to go back in two weeks for
> surgery. So please pray or send your good thoughts for Michael's recovery.
> His Hebrew name is Michoel ben Rochel Yenta.
>
> Judith Dinowitz
>
>
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Re: Adobe Muse

[Scott Stewart]

I played with it a little, if I remember correctly it was a "pick a 
template, create a site" tool. Not sure that it needs to be in the 
serious developer's tool box.
I'd love to play with the Adobe CSS animation tool, if I could remember 
what the damn thing is called..

On 12/11/2012 2:49 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote:
> Anyone use Muse to create websites? I am a Creative Cloud subscriber and saw 
> that this is one of my choices for apps. Never used it. Want to see if anyone 
> has and if it's something worth learning. I am spending the next three years 
> I have left in the Army filling my development toolbox for my upcoming 
> retirement, and since I have a shit ton of free time on my hands I thought 
> this would be a good opportunity as any.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Bruce
>
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hmmm.... coincidence?

[Scott Stewart]

I make a disparaging remark about Facebook's shitty UI design and ten 
minutes later the server that my log in lives on is being "upgraded"

coincidence ????

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Re: Front-end training and resources

[Scott Stewart]

Once you're manipulating ExtJS through the ColdFusion namespace, you are 
using client side code.. the only thing that CF does at this point is 
load the libraries..

On 11/29/2012 8:57 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
> "They actually seem to play much better done this way than through cf
> tags.."
>
> I can steam a salmon in my dishwasher, but I am not going to.  That is what
> my grill or stove is for.
>
> Similarly, I can use server side scripting language to write client side
> code, but I am not going to.
>
> Different strokes for different folks.
>
> J
>
> -
>
> Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation.
> - Henry Kissinger
>
> Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel,
> go out and buy some more tunnel. - John Quinton
>
>
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Re: Front-end training and resources

[Scott Stewart]

If you know ExtJS, you can manipulate all of these via javascript,
they all exist in the ColdFusion. namespace and will react the same way 
that they would if you had loaded the ExtJS library manually and worked 
in the Ext. namespace.

They actually seem to play much better done this way than through cf tags..

On 11/27/2012 2:07 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
> "there's a lot to be said for ExtJS in terms of building web app gui's,
> plus this is the library that CF uses to build it's layout widgets."
>
> Just my .02, but I would avoid cflayout, cfform, cfmenu, and other CF
> conviences like the pox.
>
> J
>
> -
>
> Welfare's purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for
> its own existence - Ronald Reagan
>
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Re: Front-end training and resources

[Scott Stewart]

Here's my two cents worth on it.

A lot of what's happening with HTML 5 is geared toward mobile devices, 
accessibility and SEO, the newer layout magic is CSS 3 generated.
Complex CSS animations, have tools to build them... there's A LOT of 
code involved.

1) take a basic JavaScript class, even as a refresher, a lot of what's 
going on in the JS Libraries will make more sense
2) get up to speed on CSS, all of the JS libraries depend on a good 
understanding of CSS, especially selectors.
3) Understanding the new toys in HTML 5 / CSS 3 depend on the above
4) I'd normally say get thee to jquery.com, but it really depends on 
what your doing.. there's a lot to be said for ExtJS in terms of 
building web app gui's, plus this is the library that CF uses to build 
it's layout widgets.  In the end use the one that will suit your needs 
the best.




On 11/25/2012 9:56 PM, Justin Scott wrote:
> Over the last several years I've had a heavy focus on back-end
> programming... database work, business logic, reporting,
> administrative interfaces, server management, network stuff, etc.
> I've been developing since 1998, but my back-end focus in recent years
> has left my front-end skills somewhere back in 2007 and I'm not up on
> the new HTML5 hotness, latest JavaScript goodies, CSS stuff, and the
> like.  I am essentially looking for recommendations on training
> resources to get up-to-speed with the latest in front-end technology
> and methods.  If someone knew HTML already but was starting from a
> clean slate on everything else related to front-end, where would you
> point them?
>
>
> -Justin
>
> 

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Re: Harsh...

[Scott Stewart]

I think one of the major issues is that there are so many CFUG's in this 
area.
State Department CFUG
Pentagon CFUG
Maryland CFUG, Rockville.. I think there's also a Baltimore one
DCCFUG
This is just off the top of my head..

My major reason for not attending is that I live so bloody far out ...
It would almost be easier for me if there was a West Virginia CFUG.

I got spoiled in Raleigh because TACFUG was really the only game in town 
for CFUG's
the next closest ones would've been Richmond (if one existed) or 
Charlotte .. 3.5 hours away.

Now what I may suggest to you is branching out making it a Virginia CFUG 
and appealing to the Richmond/Norfolk/Newport News areas.
Richmond is less than two hours away .. (discounting traffic, and the 
way that I drive), and doing live online sessions.

On 11/21/2012 12:00 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
> Same here. That said if this area is such a hotbed of CF then why the
> fck can't we get more people to attend the Northern Virginia Users
> Group? (Sorry a bete noir of mine). It seems to me that CF developers
> in this area are very insular, and many simply are time keepers, not
> interested in updating skills or learning new approaches.
>
> I get calls and emails about CF related jobs regularly. Mostly these
> are elsewhere in the country. I usually respond that I can't relocate
> but would be interested in the job if its a telecommute. No response
> after that. Although at the same time I usually point the recruiter to
> CF-Jobs.
>
> As for OBD, unlike Railo, its been my impression that its more of a
> hobbyist app, not having the support of an external company, only a
> bunch of enthusiasts struggling to keep it updated. Because of that
> they're about 1 to 1.5 versions behind CF and Railo.
>
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Scott Stewart
>  wrote:
>> To be really honest, I'm almost past the point of caring. I live in one
>> of the CF Hotbeds, Washington DC and my phone and email are blown up at
>> least once a day with calls for Senior CF Developers..  there are jobs
>> out there.. As a matter of fact the company that I work for is actively
>> looking for ColdFusion developers for a DHS contract...
>>
>> I think the biggest naysayers are the body shops who can't find
>> developers willing to pull up stakes an move half way across the country
>> for a three month contract.
>>
>> Ben Forta said it best, and I'm paraphrasing "As long as CF is
>> profitable, Adobe will continue to support it".
>>
>> In my opinion, I think that we as the community should be more vocal and
>> not depend on Adobe to market. "Marketing" for PHP, Ruby etc, is driven
>> by the developer communities why shouldn't CFML be as well..  Maybe, we
>> should achieve that separation between the language (CFML) and a
>> particular engine (Adobe ColdFusion), and vocalize the merits of the
>> language, and let the client dictate the implementation..
>>
>> Also.. we should lay some of this burden at the feet of those involved
>> with Railo and Open Blue Dragon Railo does some marketing but I've
>> seen very little from the OBD folks...
>>
>> all this is just my own opinion, I'm sure there are others
>>
>> On 11/20/2012 8:19 PM, Eric Roberts wrote:
>>> http://corfield.org/blog/post.cfm/cfml-too-little-too-late
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Did you guys read Sean's latest blog post.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This would be a good discussion as he does bring up some good points.though
>>> I think he was a little overly harsh in others.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>><http://www.threeravensconsulting.com> 
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Re: Scientists mum on potential discovery...

[Scott Stewart]

Like the guy said this morning on NBC 4 (DC) ..

"A finger"

On 11/21/2012 11:56 AM, Cameron Childress wrote:
> "Scientists working on NASA's six-wheeled rover on Mars have a problem. But
> it's a good problem.
>
> They have some exciting new results from one of the rover's instruments. On
> the one hand, they'd like to tell everybody what they found, but on the
> other, they have to wait because they want to make sure their results are
> not just some fluke or error in their instrument."
>
> http://www.npr.org/2012/11/20/165513016/big-news-from-mars-rover-scientists-mum-for-now
>
> Any guesses on what they think they've found?
>
> -Cameron
>
> ...
>
>
> 

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Re: Harsh...

[Scott Stewart]

To be really honest, I'm almost past the point of caring. I live in one 
of the CF Hotbeds, Washington DC and my phone and email are blown up at 
least once a day with calls for Senior CF Developers..  there are jobs 
out there.. As a matter of fact the company that I work for is actively 
looking for ColdFusion developers for a DHS contract...

I think the biggest naysayers are the body shops who can't find 
developers willing to pull up stakes an move half way across the country 
for a three month contract.

Ben Forta said it best, and I'm paraphrasing "As long as CF is 
profitable, Adobe will continue to support it".

In my opinion, I think that we as the community should be more vocal and 
not depend on Adobe to market. "Marketing" for PHP, Ruby etc, is driven 
by the developer communities why shouldn't CFML be as well..  Maybe, we 
should achieve that separation between the language (CFML) and a 
particular engine (Adobe ColdFusion), and vocalize the merits of the 
language, and let the client dictate the implementation..

Also.. we should lay some of this burden at the feet of those involved 
with Railo and Open Blue Dragon Railo does some marketing but I've 
seen very little from the OBD folks...

all this is just my own opinion, I'm sure there are others

On 11/20/2012 8:19 PM, Eric Roberts wrote:
> http://corfield.org/blog/post.cfm/cfml-too-little-too-late
>
>   
>
> Did you guys read Sean's latest blog post.
>
>   
>
> This would be a good discussion as he does bring up some good points.though
> I think he was a little overly harsh in others.
>
>   
>
>
>
>
>
>   
>
>    Your ColdFusion Development Solution
>
>   
>
>
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>
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>
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>
>
>
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>
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Re: Hello there, racists.

[Scott Stewart]

The implied visual makes kittens cry...

In all seriousness, I don't think there's anyone on this list and I mean 
*anyone* that I wouldn't want to have a beer with.
We do all have at least one common ground, and that's our chosen 
favorite programming language..

I firmly believe that in person there would be far less venom on 
everyone's part.

On 11/18/2012 2:51 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
> Now that's not true, look at me and Larry, we fight like a married couple
> some times, but we always make up and we're actual real life friends.
>
> When I don't act like an insane maniac :)
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions <
>> ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote:
>>
>>> At least we get along well enough to not want to kill each other from
>>> birth...
>>
>> In the USA (and on this email list) this level of hate is reserved for the
>> supporters "the other" political party.
>>
>> -Cameron
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
>>
> 

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Re: Final thoughts on the election....

[Scott Stewart]

I'd call Johnson a pragmatic centrist, some of what he wanted to do was 
fairly extreme, like a 43% cut in defense spending,, he clarified that 
by stating that it would be in conjunction with the Joint Chiefs of 
Staff, giving them what they needed to be effective and cutting out 
things that the JCoS considered no longer useful.

(LRS, can you fact check this for me, I'm getting ready to dive into 
another long string of meetings)

On 11/7/2012 9:13 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
> So, you think that Gary Johnson and Ron Paul are further right than Mitt
> Romney?
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 9:12 AM, LRS Scout  wrote:
>
>> No, we voted for Gary Johnson and wrote in Ron Paul.
>> On Nov 7, 2012 9:09 AM, "Scott Stroz"  wrote:
>>
>>> You think the path to success is a candidate who is further to the right
>>> than the candidate that just lost?
>>>
>>> I am struggling to understand that logic. Were there people who
>>> did not think Gov. Romney was far enough right so to
>>> prove their dissatisfaction they voted for Pres. Obama?
>>>
>>> (Really not being snarky, I am trying to understand the logic is all)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Sam  wrote:
>>>
 I think the opposite, when they stop presenting left leaning moderates
 they'll start winning again. But that's not likely.

 .

 On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Maureen 
>> wrote:
> Same as 2008.  If the Republicans wanted a win, they should have
>> picked
> viable candidates.
>
> My prediction is there will not be another Republican president until
 they
> get out of bed with the tea party and the theocrats.  Republicans
>> might
> support those positions, but Republicans are a minority behind
>>> Democrats
> and Independents who are not going to vote for candidates who hold
>>> them.
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Jerry Barnes 
 wrote:
>> Well,  as of 10:00, it looks like Obama is going to take it.  I'm
>>> really
>> shocked.
>>
>

>>>
>>
> 

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Re: Chrysler exec calls out GOP on car industry

[Scott Stewart]

Here's Chrysler's take on it:

http://blog.chryslergroupllc.com/blog.do;jsessionid=40655E96E3CBE366D16EFBBFE86B401D?id=1950&p=entry


1) Sergio Marchionne, *Chairman/CEO Chrysler Group LLC* 
 October 30, 2012 
11:55 AM
"Chrysler Group's production plans for the Jeep® brand have become the 
focus of public debate.
I feel obliged to unambiguously restate our position: Jeep production 
will not be moved from the United States to China"

and

"Together, we are working to establish a global enterprise and 
previously announced our intent to return Jeep production to China, the 
world's largest auto market, in order to satisfy local market demand, 
which would not otherwise be accessible. Chrysler Group is interested in 
expanding the customer base for our award-winning Jeep vehicles, which 
can only be done by establishing local production."

my take away: We're going to build a plant in China to produce Jeeps for 
the Chinese market, we're not closing any plants in the US.

this does not equal "we bailed out Chrysler and in turn they're going to 
build Jeeps in China"

Romney strategically left out the important statement that no US plants 
are being closed




On 11/2/2012 11:01 AM, Sam wrote:
> Because I'm a bit smarter than you.
>
> I'll explain. Romney said we bailed out Chrysler and in turn they're
> going to build Jeeps in China. Very true. You're twisting it to read
> we're closing Jeep factories in the US and moving them to China.
> Nobody said that, although that likely will happen. Point is both
> Chrysler and GM are focusing on building cars in China because they're
> is money to be made. So is Ford, but we didn't give ford the down
> payments for those factories. See the difference?
>
> .
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Vivec  wrote:
>> Sam,
>>
>> You are doing exactly what others have done, and misrepresenting what was
>> said.
>>
>> "The two forces came together earlier today when Trump tweeted the false
>> statement that Chrysler is shipping Jeep production to China. This was
>> based on a misinterpretation of a report from Bloomberg (the whole saga
>> explained nicely
> 

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Re: Happy birthday Mr. Stewart!

[Scott Stewart]

Thank  you sir... :)

I must say that it was a truly awesome day.. spent at Great Wolf Lodge 
with my wife and daughter.. the first family vacation of many to come.

On 10/16/2012 11:05 AM, Eric Roberts wrote:
> Happy birthday Scott!
>
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>
>
>
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Re: VP Debate Notes

[Scott Stewart]

In other news:
"Biden could have stripped naked and painted Hello Kitty on his ass 
cheeks while Ryan balanced the budget and brought peace to the middle 
east, and you'd still declare Biden the winner."

That is a truly hideous visual  and I now need a new keyboard 
because mine is flooded after the water shot out of my nose. (well 
played)

On 10/12/2012 8:45 AM, GMoney wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:03 AM, Eric Roberts <
> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>
>> I think Biden knocked it out of the park.  He provided facts against some
>> of
>> the very vague answers Ryan gaveespecially in the "I was there in the
>> room..." comments.   I think he had WAY more credibility than Ryan did.
>>
> Wow...i'm shocked. You thought the democrat won This is headline news.
> What next, Sam posting that he thought the Republican won??? In other news,
> the sun rose this morning.
>
> Biden could have stripped naked and painted Hello Kitty on his ass cheeks
> while Ryan balanced the budget and brought peace to the middle east, and
> you'd still declare Biden the winner.
>
>
> 

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Re: Real live impulse engines...

[Scott Stewart]

nerdgasm !!

On 10/2/2012 8:12 PM, Eric Roberts wrote:
> Well working on them anyhow.
>
>   
>
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57523867-1/star-trek-fusion-impulse-engi
> ne-in-the-works/
>
>   
>
> Still very cool.
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Cheap plug for my band

[Scott Stewart]

Ascension is actually an old release, this was the last one I did before 
beginning a ten plus year hiatus
There are two, "Trinity" and "Control Issues" after with the guy that 
replaced me, Nick Kelly .

We're working on new songs that are a bit more angry and "In your face"

On 9/20/2012 12:11 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
> Glad to see a new release man.
>
> Hope you're doing well.
> On Sep 20, 2012 10:17 AM, "Jerry Milo Johnson"  wrote:
>
>> Sweet! i'll check that out tonight.
>>
>> thanks for the music.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Scott Stewart
>>  wrote:
>>> Not to very long after I moved back to the DMV, I got a call from my
>>> closest friend, and lead guitarist/mad genius for my old band Division,
>>> their singer had exited.
>>> I auditioned and I'm back in my old spot..
>>>
>>> Anyways, were releasing our 2nd CD, which is out of print through
>>> Bandcamp as a "name your price" release, meaning you can download it for
>>> free, or pay what you think it is worth
>>> http://division.bandcamp.com/album/ascension-to-eternity
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Scott Stewart
>>> Adobe Certified Expert / Instructor
>>> ColdFusion 8, 9
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: dead horse: cheap hosting options?

[Scott Stewart]

They set it up but you have access to the server and web administrators, 
plus CPanel access for managing domains/email/MySQL db's etc. (although 
I have been able to connect using the MySQL Workbench)

On 9/20/2012 10:17 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote:
> Do they provide the railo, or is it self-installed and managed?
>
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Scott Stewart
>  wrote:
>> I'm hosting my blog (http://www.sstwebworks.com) through Alurium:
>> $6.67 a month for CFML (via Railo) , 5 MySQL Databases, unlimited
>> bandwidth, 50 email accounts
>>
>> http://www.alurium.com/aff.php?aff=011
>>
>> On 9/20/2012 8:53 AM, Paul Ihrig wrote:
>>> I need to switch 3-5 domains from godaddy in the next week or two.
>>> i have search though the lists and re-read a bunch of threads.
>>> doesn't need to be fancy, cf would be nice.
>>> think i currently pay like 70 bucks a year for abunch/unlimited domain
>>> names to share same space.
>>>
>>> any advice would be appreciated.
>>> thanks
>>> -paul
>>>
>>>
>>
> 

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Cheap plug for my band

[Scott Stewart]

Not to very long after I moved back to the DMV, I got a call from my 
closest friend, and lead guitarist/mad genius for my old band Division, 
their singer had exited.
I auditioned and I'm back in my old spot..

Anyways, were releasing our 2nd CD, which is out of print through 
Bandcamp as a "name your price" release, meaning you can download it for 
free, or pay what you think it is worth
http://division.bandcamp.com/album/ascension-to-eternity


-- 
Scott Stewart
Adobe Certified Expert / Instructor
ColdFusion 8, 9


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Re: NCDevCon

[Scott Stewart]

Can't I have a gig in Hagerstown, MD that night

On 9/20/2012 10:03 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
> Thought I'd ask, anyone going?
>
> I'll be arriving a bit earlier on the 28th to help a friend set up.
> Anyone want to get together for a couple of beer on Friday Sept 28th
> in Raleigh, NC?
>
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Re: dead horse: cheap hosting options?

[Scott Stewart]

I'm hosting my blog (http://www.sstwebworks.com) through Alurium:
$6.67 a month for CFML (via Railo) , 5 MySQL Databases, unlimited 
bandwidth, 50 email accounts

http://www.alurium.com/aff.php?aff=011

On 9/20/2012 8:53 AM, Paul Ihrig wrote:
> I need to switch 3-5 domains from godaddy in the next week or two.
> i have search though the lists and re-read a bunch of threads.
> doesn't need to be fancy, cf would be nice.
> think i currently pay like 70 bucks a year for abunch/unlimited domain
> names to share same space.
>
> any advice would be appreciated.
> thanks
> -paul
>
> 

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Re: dead horse: cheap hosting options?

[Scott Stewart]

On 9/20/2012 8:53 AM, Paul Ihrig wrote:
> I need to switch 3-5 domains from godaddy in the next week or two.
> i have search though the lists and re-read a bunch of threads.
> doesn't need to be fancy, cf would be nice.
> think i currently pay like 70 bucks a year for abunch/unlimited domain
> names to share same space.
>
> any advice would be appreciated.
> thanks
> -paul
>
> 

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Re: Guys..new iPhone launched..

[Scott Stewart]

Meh... I'll buy it from Samsung

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Vivec  wrote:

>
> WHere's the fricking CF-Community posts? No one in line to buy it yet?
>
>
> http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/iphone-5-1096004/review
>
> Or is it that you are ALL camping out ? :-)
>
>
> 

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Re: someone's gonna pay

[Scott Stewart]

I'd rather have an old Beetle, that I can dismantle with a crescent wrench..

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions <
ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote:

>
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Eric Roberts <
> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> > ROFL!  I think it's the same theme as men drive the new Bugs? LOL
>
>
> The 2013 beetle don't look to shabby.
>
>
> 

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Re: Could use your help tomorrow......

[Scott Stewart]

It's amazing to me the things that modern medicine is capable of now
the work that was done on my daughter's trachea was nothing short of
miraculous..

On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Scott Stroz  wrote:

>
> Because of the cerebral palsy, his right foot was turned out...about 45
> degrees. The surgery was to straighten it out-and lengthen his heel cord.
>
> On Thursday, September 6, 2012, Scott Stewart 
> wrote:
> >
> > :) Awesome... what did they have to reconstruct?
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Scott Stroz  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Just wanted to let you guys know, he is out of surgery, doctor said it
> went
> >> well. He is in a little bit of pain (which will likely get worse
> tonight)
> >> and resting well.
> >>
> >> When we showed him his x-ray of screws & plates he said, 'Nickel
> chromium
> >> steel on my leg. Cool.'
> >>
> >> Now the hard part begins...rehab.
> >>
> >> Thanx everyone, you guys rule.
> >>
> >> On Thursday, September 6, 2012, GMoney  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Let us know how it goes Scott.
> >> >
> >> > Good luck little Stroz!
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Scott Stroz 
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Could you guys please keep my son in your thoughts, prayers,
> >> >> meditations, etc. tomorrow? He is undergoing reconstructive surgery
> on
> >> >> his leg. Its not a major surgery, but, not a 'routine surgery',
> >> >> either.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanx!
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Scott Stroz
> >> >> ---
> >> >> You can make things happen, you can watch things happen or you can
> >> >> wonder what the f*&k happened. - Cpt. Phil Harris
> >> >>
> >> >> http://xkcd.com/386/
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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