Re: recruiters with english as a second language

[S . Isaac Dealey]

> Despite various websites' preference settings (Career
> Builder and DICE
> come to mind), I STILL get emails from recruiters, usually
> with
> middle-eastern names, shopping for candidates for jobs I'm
> simply not
> qualified for.  I hate that.

I used to get that pretty frequently with recruiters seeing that my
resume had some minimal ASP experience on it (a year of ASP 2.0 that I
never liked and haven't touched more than twice in the last 6 years)
and would call me up saying they're looking for an "experienced ASP
_expert_". That was from predominantly American recruiters
surprisingly enough. Over time "java expert" gradually crept in as
well, and now I'm getting frequent contacts for "C++ expert"... I
spent 3 days fixing a C++ COM object for scanning images from the web
directly to a server about a year ago or so, and that's the sum total
of official C++ experience I have (I taught myself from books about 9
yrs ago just before I started working with CF and hadn't been asked to
work with C++ in all that time). If it gets much worse I'll have to
stop posting my resume on the job sites and just rely on searching and
submitting it myself. Although mercifully I shouldn't have to deal
with this for much longer and then will get a nice long several year
break from it. Maybe in 2010 or so when I'm ready for another change
people will have figured out how wasteful and unproductive the current
recruiting trends are.


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Re: recruiters with english as a second language

[S . Isaac Dealey]

Thanks Pete, it's good to know I'm not alone. :)

> I've gotten a number of calls from recruiters that were
> pretty
> obviously outsourced Indian callcenter employees who were
> dialling for
> dollars.  As a rule, I hang up on them as quickly as
> possible.  I have
> also gotten emails that used less than native English,
> which I delete
> just as quickly.  Sorry, but if they don't care enough to
> communicate
> properly and effectively, I don't care enough to respond.

> Pete


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Re: Seeking Cold Fusion / SQL Server Developers - Arlington, VA

[Jo Ann Goertner]

Sorry - I'm new to this, and I accidentally sent this to the wrong list. 
I re-sent it to cf-jobs ...

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 23:36:43 -0500 Jo Ann Goertner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> The following posting is for a Developer II, but they are also 
> looking
> for Developer I's if you have less experience.  And, they hire 
> people
> with either a SQL specialty or a CF specialty or both.  
> 
> Just between you and me, don't let the degree "requirement" keep you 
> from
> applying - I can tell you from personal experience they are more
> interested in ability and a good "fit" than in your credentials.  
> I've
> been working here in a Dev II position for the last 4 months, and I 
> don't
> have a degree, but I had good relevant experience and it was a good 
> fit
> from both sides.  
> 
> If you're interested, check out the company website at
> www.nucleussolutions.com.  You're welcome to send me your resume 
> and/or
> cover letter which I'll be happy to pass along to the folks doing 
> the
> hiring.  - Jo Ann Goertner, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Cold Fusion / SQL Server Developer Job Description / Position 
> Posting
>  
>  
> Nucleus Solutions is a rapidly expanding information technology 
> firm
> located in Arlington, VA. We are currently seeking a motivated and
> capable individual to make an immediate impact on our high-energy 
> team as
> a Senior Developer. 
>  
> Candidate must have: 
> * Provide mentoring and targeted assignments to increase staff skill 
> set.
> 
> * Assist in writing technical design/architecture documents. 
> * Adhere to coding standards. 
> * Develop software. 
> * Assist in staff selection/hiring. 
> * Ability to communicate effectively with business 
> analysts/customers in
> requirements gathering and functional design sessions
> * Willingness to help with technical operations of the customer,
> including off-hours support 
>  
> Required Technical Skills
> * Cold Fusion 5.0 and/or CF-MX
> * SQL Server 7/2000
> * JavaScript
> * HTML Query Tuning/Optimization
> * SQL Server DTS Package development
> * Fusebox 3.0
> * Advanced SQL Query writing
> * CSS 
>  
> Desired Skills
> * Data Warehousing, ETL Tool, Data Conversion
> * ActiveX, VB, VBScript, Command Line Batch utilities, PGP/file
> encryption, FTP, Zip/compression utilities
> * Data requirements gathering for a reporting system or data 
> warehouse 
>  
>  
> The successful candidate will possess a minimum of two years 
> previous
> Cold Fusion and SQL experience. Bachelor's degree required. Must be
> highly organized and show great attention to detail. Excellent oral 
> and
> written communication skills are essential. We are seeking an 
> individual
> who is committed to hard work and dedicated to quality in all 
> aspects of
> the job. Additionally our environment values teamwork, open 
> communication
> and flexibility. 
>  
> Nucleus Solutions offers a competitive compensation package 
> including
> health and dental insurance, long-term and short term disability
> programs, 401k with a 50% matching after 6 months of employment, 
> flexible
> spending account, eight to ten holidays per year, and more than 3 
> weeks
> of paid time off each year. U.S. Citizens or Green Card Holders 
> Only! 
>  
> To apply for this position, please email your resume with cover 
> letter
> and salary history/requirements. 
>  
> 
> 

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Seeking Cold Fusion / SQL Server Developers - Arlington, VA

[Jo Ann Goertner]

The following posting is for a Developer II, but they are also looking
for Developer I's if you have less experience.  And, they hire people
with either a SQL specialty or a CF specialty or both.  

Just between you and me, don't let the degree "requirement" keep you from
applying - I can tell you from personal experience they are more
interested in ability and a good "fit" than in your credentials.  I've
been working here in a Dev II position for the last 4 months, and I don't
have a degree, but I had good relevant experience and it was a good fit
from both sides.  

If you're interested, check out the company website at
www.nucleussolutions.com.  You're welcome to send me your resume and/or
cover letter which I'll be happy to pass along to the folks doing the
hiring.  - Jo Ann Goertner, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cold Fusion / SQL Server Developer Job Description / Position Posting
 
 
Nucleus Solutions is a rapidly expanding information technology firm
located in Arlington, VA. We are currently seeking a motivated and
capable individual to make an immediate impact on our high-energy team as
a Senior Developer. 
 
Candidate must have: 
* Provide mentoring and targeted assignments to increase staff skill set.

* Assist in writing technical design/architecture documents. 
* Adhere to coding standards. 
* Develop software. 
* Assist in staff selection/hiring. 
* Ability to communicate effectively with business analysts/customers in
requirements gathering and functional design sessions
* Willingness to help with technical operations of the customer,
including off-hours support 
 
Required Technical Skills
* Cold Fusion 5.0 and/or CF-MX
* SQL Server 7/2000
* JavaScript
* HTML Query Tuning/Optimization
* SQL Server DTS Package development
* Fusebox 3.0
* Advanced SQL Query writing
* CSS 
 
Desired Skills
* Data Warehousing, ETL Tool, Data Conversion
* ActiveX, VB, VBScript, Command Line Batch utilities, PGP/file
encryption, FTP, Zip/compression utilities
* Data requirements gathering for a reporting system or data warehouse 
 
 
The successful candidate will possess a minimum of two years previous
Cold Fusion and SQL experience. Bachelor's degree required. Must be
highly organized and show great attention to detail. Excellent oral and
written communication skills are essential. We are seeking an individual
who is committed to hard work and dedicated to quality in all aspects of
the job. Additionally our environment values teamwork, open communication
and flexibility. 
 
Nucleus Solutions offers a competitive compensation package including
health and dental insurance, long-term and short term disability
programs, 401k with a 50% matching after 6 months of employment, flexible
spending account, eight to ten holidays per year, and more than 3 weeks
of paid time off each year. U.S. Citizens or Green Card Holders Only! 
 
To apply for this position, please email your resume with cover letter
and salary history/requirements. 
 

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Re: recruiters with english as a second language

[RobG]

I've gotten to the point that I simply will not deal with any 
middle-eastern recruiters unless they speak English that I can 
understand without straining, and can understand the English that I 
speak.  I've only known TWO middle-easterners ever that could do this, 
and in fact one was a boss and the other was the boss' boss.  And they 
both ended up being good friends.

Sadly, this isn't the case.  And it seems that the middle-east now 
controls everything from recruiting to tech support or anything else.

On top of that, I feel like I'm dealing a car salesman when I speak to 
recruiters.  They want to slam-sell the job as quickly as possible 
rather than taking the time to actually fit somebody to the job. 
Despite various websites' preference settings (Career Builder and DICE 
come to mind), I STILL get emails from recruiters, usually with 
middle-eastern names, shopping for candidates for jobs I'm simply not 
qualified for.  I hate that.

Rob


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Re: recruiters with english as a second language

[Pete Ruckelshaus]

I've gotten a number of calls from recruiters that were pretty
obviously outsourced Indian callcenter employees who were dialling for
dollars.  As a rule, I hang up on them as quickly as possible.  I have
also gotten emails that used less than native English, which I delete
just as quickly.  Sorry, but if they don't care enough to communicate
properly and effectively, I don't care enough to respond.

Pete

On 3/30/06, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So...
>
> I hope I'm not offending anyone, but at what point do you simply not
> respond to a recruiter if there's an obvious language barrier? I'm
> just curious if anyone else has a "rule of thumb" they use, because I
> just got an email from a recruiter asking me to "revert back
> positively ... with the resume and the rate", indicating that he's
> confused the definition of "reply" or possibly "respond" and "revert".
>
>
> It seems like now more than any other time that I've looked for a job,
> the majority of the recruiters I talk to are some variety of
> (middle)eastern (I'm guessing mostly Indian, although of course I
> don't ask) with varying degrees of either accent or language barrier.
> I really don't want to come across as being insensitive, but some of
> these people (a good number of them actually) speak english over the
> phone so poorly that it takes several iterations of a word or phrase
> before I understand what they're trying to say, and it really makes me
> wonder how they've even been hired in a recruiting capacity by
> companies seeking english-speaking workers.
>
> My current job search seems to be nearing its end, so I'm not liable
> to need to worry about it for hopefully several years now, I'm just
> curious what other people's thoughts are on the subject.
>
>
> s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201
> new epoch : isn't it time for a change?
>
> add features without fixtures with
> the onTap open source framework
>
> http://www.fusiontap.com
> http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm
>
>
> 

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recruiters with english as a second language

[S . Isaac Dealey]

So...

I hope I'm not offending anyone, but at what point do you simply not
respond to a recruiter if there's an obvious language barrier? I'm
just curious if anyone else has a "rule of thumb" they use, because I
just got an email from a recruiter asking me to "revert back
positively ... with the resume and the rate", indicating that he's
confused the definition of "reply" or possibly "respond" and "revert".


It seems like now more than any other time that I've looked for a job,
the majority of the recruiters I talk to are some variety of
(middle)eastern (I'm guessing mostly Indian, although of course I
don't ask) with varying degrees of either accent or language barrier.
I really don't want to come across as being insensitive, but some of
these people (a good number of them actually) speak english over the
phone so poorly that it takes several iterations of a word or phrase
before I understand what they're trying to say, and it really makes me
wonder how they've even been hired in a recruiting capacity by
companies seeking english-speaking workers.

My current job search seems to be nearing its end, so I'm not liable
to need to worry about it for hopefully several years now, I'm just
curious what other people's thoughts are on the subject.


s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201
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Re: Onsite vs. Offsite

[Jeffry Houser]

At 11:22 AM 3/30/2006, you wrote:
>Currently I work two 25 hour a week hourly programming gigs.  First,
>being paid hourly rocks...nothing like actually getting paid for all
>of the effort you put into something.

  Hourly only if you have good clients, and a level of trust between 
them.  ;)  I've worked for some like that, and it has been good.

  Along the years, I've had problems along the lines of  "You didn't spend 
X hours on X task."

  I much prefer to work hourly when on-site and 'fixed fee' when working 
remotely.  If you can correctly bid fixed fee jobs, they are often much 
more profitable [at least for me].  There is nothing like being paid for 
more effort than you actually put into a project.


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Re: Onsite vs. Offsite

[Pete Ruckelshaus]

Currently I work two 25 hour a week hourly programming gigs.  First,
being paid hourly rocks...nothing like actually getting paid for all
of the effort you put into something.

Both jobs allow me to work the majority of my time at home, when I
want.  I go on-site to one place for most of the day one day per week,
and I go to the other place once a week for a morning of meetings. 
The rest of the time, I work at home, where I am comfortable and very
well equipped (better/faster internet access than both, loaded
workstation with dual 20" flat panels, and I can play tunes as loud as
I want and only have to worry about bothering the dog).  One thing
that I think a lot of places have trouble with is the hours; they are
so programmed into 8-6, Monday through Friday, that when I say "Yeah,
I can crank that out after I get my kids in bed" they sort of look at
me funny.  Well, that's when I tend to do my best work, plus it allows
me higher quality family time, and I can actually get other stuff done
like run errands or go for a bike ride during the day.  Besides, with
gas prices being what they are today, I actually save quite a bit of
money...instead of filling my gas tank a couple of times per week (I
drive a VW Passat, so it's not like I drive a gas guzzler), I fill it
every other week or so.  My kids also like it because my oldest (2nd
grade) doesn't have to go to before/after care, I meet her at the bus
stop...and my youngest gets dropped off at daycare later and picked up
earlier than she would if I was doing a long commute.

Personally, I love it most of the time.  The one thing that I do miss
from time to time is some level of human interaction and face-to-face
collaboration with other developers on a project, but we can do a lot
via email, IM, and conference calls.  Given the choice, however, my
ideal situation would be working for a small company within 3 miles or
so of my house, but until that happens, I'm doing fine with working
remotely.

Pete

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