RE: Infusion Mail Server

2000-09-30 Thread Kym Kovan


>What does IMS do exactly with CF.  We are running Exchange and our mail
>admin is a little nervous about installing a second mail server.

iMS itself is a set of NT services which provide the base protocol 
functions of SMTP, POP and POST servers. They also can talk to CF 
templates. The CF templates provide the intelligence and functionality to 
enable the 3 services to act as a full-bloodied mail server.

The whole package looks and behaves like a normal mail server but as all 
the brains are in cf templates you can do what you want with it for special 
functions, adding web-mail, whatever.

Our associated hosting company, mbcomms.net.au , uses iMS 
as its production mail server and it works well. We have added a lot of 
extra functionality to do things like a bulk-mail handler for some of our 
clients and it is a dream to add things like that.



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RE: TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

2000-09-30 Thread James Sleeman

---Reply to mail from Steve Martin about TO ALL: Request for ColdFusion SP2 Input

> You may be aware that when calling custom tags, either using the "CF_"
> syntax, or using "CFMODULE", you can pass a special attribute called
> "ATTRIBUTECOLLECTION", which is a struct of attributes. We use it quite a
> lot when using optional parameters, as it allows a collection of parameters
> to be created, and then sent "en masse" to a module, e.g.
> 
> The change has come in how repeated variables are treated, e.g.
> 
> 
> Here X is specified twice, once in the attributecollection, once as a normal
> parameter.
> 
> The problem (for me at least, moving code from 4.01 to 4.5) is that in 4.01
> the "normal" parameter has precedence, whereas in 4.5 the "struct" parameter
> has precedence, resulting in:
> 
> 4.01  
> 4.5   
> 
> Was there a reason for the initial change and if so, why was it done and why
> wasn't it documented? If not, can we have the original behaviour back
> please?  :-)

Are you sure of this ?  I use repeating variables like this all the time
(CF 4.5) to over-ride same named variables in an ATTRIBUTECOLLECTION
structure (generally fuseaction) ??

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RE: How can I do this (Query external data source)?

2000-09-30 Thread Dick Applebaum


I second Chris' suggestion.

I use a stub program that runs on the remote server.

it is invoked via CFHTTP

It receives a WDDX packet containing only SQL Statements (you 
probably should not pass the userid and pw)

It deserializes the WDDX packet, issues the SQL query, and serializes 
the record set into another WDDX packet which is returned to the 
CFHTTP.

As a variation, you don't even need CF on the remote machine... the 
stub could be written in Perl, ASP, PHP, whatever.

It is a great tool for migrating a db from one server to another, 
back-ending one site with another, etc.

Dick



At 5:35 PM -0400 9/29/00, Christopher Olive, CIO wrote:
>why not use WDDX or something like that?
>
>write a robot like action page (no HTML) that queries the DB and wraps the
>results in a WDDX package.  then on your internal page, CFHTTP to that
>external robot page, grab the packet, decode it, and go nuts.
>
>chris olive, cio
>cresco technologies
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>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Claremont, Timothy S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 11:13 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: How can I do this (Query external data source)?
>
>
>Please pardon the lousy subject line. I did not know how to paraphrase what
>I need to do!
>
>I have an internal web page here at work that I made in coldfusion. I also
>have another page that I made for the real world.
>
>My external site has a table with a bunch of information that website
>visitors can enter information into. (It is a registry for old Pontiacs).
>
>I want to run a query on that external site that just returns the number of
>records in the registry table. Hence, Here on my internal web page (Actually
>the "Outlook Today" page) I just want a line that says "There are X records
>in your Pontiac Registry".
>
>The dilemma, as I see it, is querying a datasource that is not on my local
>coldfusion server. If I have to, I will add a new DSN to the server that
>points to the database out there on the internet. Is this possible?
>
>
>Tim Claremont
>Xerox Corporation
>
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Re: Infusion Mail Server

2000-09-30 Thread Adrian Cooper


- Original Message -
From: "Kym Kovan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 8:09 AM


>
> >What does IMS do exactly with CF.  We are running Exchange and our mail
> >admin is a little nervous about installing a second mail server.
>
> iMS itself is a set of NT services which provide the base protocol
> functions of SMTP, POP and POST servers. They also can talk to CF
> templates. The CF templates provide the intelligence and functionality to
> enable the 3 services to act as a full-bloodied mail server.

Yes indeed.

The core mail services are extremely efficient as they are (I know, because I
have used alot eof MTA's  - both NT and UNIC based - extensively), but add those
to the power of CF and SQL and anything is possible - and more.

Adrian Cooper.


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Re: query caching?

2000-09-30 Thread Dick Applebaum

Depending on the totality of what you anticipate is going to be 
happening at any given time, you can:

1) let CF cache the queries... this is especially good if you 
anticipate that there will be a lot of similar queries as in 
drill-downs, or several users making identical queries (skewed 
popularity of certain items), e.g. today's specials, hot items, etc.

2) cache the queries yourself... more work for you, less for the db server

3) spew the recordset to the client (easy with WDDX), then do the 
drill-down at the client.  OK, if the user has the bandwidth, and a 
fast client machine (you can often assume/dictate this in a B2B 
application)

4) spew the recordset to the client as JavaScript array:

 more work for you at the CF server

 much less bandwith than a WDDX packet

 much less work at the client

Hmmm... 10 seconds to query sounds like some db redesign may be in order.

This will vary with the db engine, but there are things you can do.

I noticed that your db is denormalized (ProductsCategory, 
ProductsKeyWords, and maybe ProductsStyleNumber).  If you haven't 
already tried it, you might experiment with normalizng these... & let 
the db engine do its thing.  (you might be surprised by the results)


HTH

Dick

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>lspeed up when it is live. That is fairly acceptable...
>The problem is that each page takes 10 seconds...so when someone hits =
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>below.
>
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RE: DB vs. text file

2000-09-30 Thread Bob Silverberg

Why don't you try loading the query into an application variable?  In your
application.cfm (or equivalent) check to see if the variable is initialized
(remember to use a read-only lock for this).  If it isn't, do your database
read, and then load the results of that query into an application variable
(this will require an exclusive lock - but just lock the CFSET, not the
CFQUERY).  That way, the only time that the query will need to be executed
is when the application times out.  You will also need to use a read-only
lock whenever you reference this application variable, but that shouldn't be
too complicated or add too much overhead.  If you want to force a refresh of
the values, set up a task that simply requeries and reloads that application
variable.

I'm doing this on a couple of sites with a bunch of queries that populate
drop down list boxes and it's working well for me.

Bob

-Original Message-
From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 5:29 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: DB vs. text file


We recently ran into a problem where the database was so huge that pulling a
list box was too slow. The solution was to perform a query that wrote the
contents of the select box to a comma delimited file once a day. In this
case, it was much much faster to read the box from a file.

jon
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Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 3:55 PM
Subject: DB vs. text file


> I am thinking about populating a select box with a list from a text file.
> Is that faster than querying a database, or should I import the text file
> into a table?
>
> I'm sure there is no absolute answer to this question, but generalities
are
> acceptable.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob
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Re: Query Advise

2000-09-30 Thread W Luke

Thanks guys.  I've used a combination of your help to come up with the
following code, which works (to an extent):

 

SELECT messages.mID, messages.to_email, members.email, members.password

FROM messages, members

WHERE messages.mID = #form.ID# AND members.password = '#form.password#' AND
members.email = '#form.email#' AND messages.to_email = '#form.email#'



I'm over-complicating what I actually have to do (It's an "anonymous"
messaging system, to hide email addresses, inserts message into Database).
Thanks for all your help.

Will

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From: "W Luke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: cf-talk
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 10:07 PM
Subject: Query Advise


> Hi,
>
> For me, SQL is either thoroughly straightforward, or bizarrely confusing.
> As soon as I try to do something remotely complicated, I run into trouble,
> simply cannot work it out, and come to you guys.  As well as advising me
how
> to fix my latest Query - can anyone tell me of a decent SQL website for
> advanced queries, or a book?  I'd be really grateful.
>
> OK the query in question is as follows:
>
> 
>   SELECT mID,from_email,email,password FROM messages,members WHERE
> messages.mID = #form.ID# AND messages.from_email = '#form.email#' AND
> members.password = '#form.password#' AND members.email = '#form.email#'
>  
>
> mID and from_email are fields in the "messages" table. Password and email
> are fields in the members Table.  mID is originally set from a url
variable,
> and for example might be set to 5.  This would return an email address
> 'from_email' - what I need to do is validate this email against one stored
> in members, check the pass, and if all is OK then move on.
>
> I've spent the whole day on this, on and off, and still it's saying "wrong
> password"!
>
> Advise much appreciated..
>
> Cheers
>
> Will
>
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Re: Client & Session variables?

2000-09-30 Thread Bud

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On 9/29/00, W Luke penned:
>  > Use client variables, written to a database, whenever possible.
>
>Is there any documentation about writing client variables to a database?  Or
>do you have any "starter for tens"?!

What kind of documentation? CF will create the necessary tables if 
you just give it an empty database. The tables and columns it creates 
are, in Access, I can't remember off the top of my head what the 
matching data types are in SQL:

CDATA
cfid (text, 20 characters, no index)
app (text, 64 characters, indexed, duplicates OK)
data (memo)
CGLOBAL
cfid (text, 20 characters, indexed, duplicates OK)
data (memo)
lvisit (date/time, indexed, duplicates OK)

The biggest difference in the setup is, if you have complex objects 
other than simple strings you have to serialize them into WDDX 
packets. Then deserialize them into a local variable.

I do it like this:

To create the initial variable if it hasn't been created (my shopping 
cart for example, this will probably wrap bad):









Then when adding something to the basket, whereas with sessions I 
would just create a new basket called newbasket then set that to 
session.basket, it's a tad more complex:






But well worth it. Clustered server ready and NO CFLOCKS! YIPEEE!

Then I can just cfoutput or loop on variables.basket and access the 
different items with variables.basket.product_id, etc. instead of 
session.basket.etc

Oh, and if you want to give it a timeout, you can't just do it like 
sessiontimeout=. You have to create a start time, then update it at 
every click and delete the client variables if it's past the allotted 
timeout (30 minutes in the example below). I do it like this:





 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 

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Re: Client & Session
variables?
On 9/29/00, W Luke penned:
> Use client variables, written to a
database, whenever possible.

Is there any documentation about writing client variables to a
database?  Or
do you have any "starter for
tens"?!

What kind of documentation? CF will create the necessary tables
if you just give it an empty database. The tables and columns it
creates are, in Access, I can't remember off the top of my head what
the matching data types are in SQL:

CDATA
    cfid
(text, 20 characters, no index)
    app
(text, 64 characters, indexed, duplicates OK)
    data
(memo)
CGLOBAL
    cfid
(text, 20 characters, indexed, duplicates OK)
    data
(memo)
    lvisit
(date/time, indexed, duplicates OK)

The biggest difference in the setup is, if you have complex
objects other than simple strings you have to serialize them into
WDDX packets. Then deserialize them into a local variable.

I do it like this:

To create the initial variable if it hasn't been created (my
shopping cart for example, this will probably wrap bad):









Then when adding something to the basket, whereas with sessions
I would just create a new basket called newbasket then set that to
session.basket, it's a tad more complex:






But well worth it. Clustered server ready and NO CFLOCKS!
YIPEEE!

Then I can just cfoutput or loop on variables.basket and access
the different items with variables.basket.product_id, etc. instead of
session.basket.etc

Oh, and if you want to give it a timeout, you can't just do it
like sessiontimeout=. You have to create a start time, then update it
at every click and delete the client variables if it's past the
allotted timeout (30 minutes in the example below). I do it like
this:





    
    
    
    
    Re: query caching?


On 9/30/00, Dick Applebaum penned:
>Hmmm... 10 seconds to query sounds like some db redesign may be in order.
>
>This will vary with the db engine, but there are things you can do.
>
>I noticed that your db is denormalized (ProductsCategory,
>ProductsKeyWords, and maybe ProductsStyleNumber).  If you haven't
>already tried it, you might experiment with normalizng these... & let
>the db engine do its thing.  (you might be surprised by the results)

Normalized? Can you expand on that?
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Re: Client & Session variables?


Detailed docs on setting up client vars in a DB and more are here:

http://www.advantex.net/ColdFusion/CFClusteringDoc.htm

best,  paul

At 09:15 AM 9/30/00 -0400, you wrote:
>On 9/29/00, W Luke penned:
> >  > Use client variables, written to a database, whenever possible.
> >
> >Is there any documentation about writing client variables to a database?  Or
> >do you have any "starter for tens"?!
>
>What kind of documentation? CF will create the necessary tables if
>you just give it an empty database. The tables and columns it creates
>are, in Access, I can't remember off the top of my head what the
>matching data types are in SQL:

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Does anyone know of a CF based application like the one Flicks software =
sells for ASP.  It is an authentication software that easily ties into =
processing houses like Ibill.  I need an app like this for a client who =
wants to put up a membership site, and wants the client added to the DB =
only after their Credit card has been approved.  Here is the link to =
webquota.  http://www.flicks.com/msystems/webquota/  =20

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this for a client who wants to put up a membership site, and wants =
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approved. =20
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Re: query caching?


Yeah.

By the way these columns are searched (and named) it indicates that 
they likely (pun intended) contain multiple values:

 RecordID #00022  Keywords='this,that,another...'

 A column with multiple values violates the first normal form: each column
 should be atommic.

   or another common approach:

 RecordID #00022  Keyword1='this' Keyword2='that' Keyword3='another' ...

 Here the record contains repeating columns of "like" data.

as opposed to separate occurrences  of a single column in a child table:

   keyword ParentID

   record #7   this00022
   record #99  that00022
   record #2   another 00022

 From a performance view, it generally means that the db engine needs 
to read each record in the db and scan each of these fields for the 
desired values to, satisfy the query.

Here, each record must be accessed and then scanned to determine 
whether it is accepted or eliminated.

With a normalized situation, the target records can be located by 
manipulating the indexes with no need to scan the fields (unless 
partial keywords are used).

Records which do not contain the desired keyword(s) do *not* need to 
be accessed, to be eliminated.

Most modern db engines are optimized to handle this situation quite 
efficiently.

HTH

Dick

At 9:19 AM -0400 9/30/00, Bud wrote:
>On 9/30/00, Dick Applebaum penned:
>>Hmmm... 10 seconds to query sounds like some db redesign may be in order.
>>
>>This will vary with the db engine, but there are things you can do.
>>
>>I noticed that your db is denormalized (ProductsCategory,
>>ProductsKeyWords, and maybe ProductsStyleNumber).  If you haven't
>>already tried it, you might experiment with normalizng these... & let
>>the db engine do its thing.  (you might be surprised by the results)
>
>Normalized? Can you expand on that?
>--
>
>Bud Schneehagen - Tropical Web Creations
>
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Re: Client & Session variables?


On 9/30/00, paul smith penned:
>Detailed docs on setting up client vars in a DB and more are here:
>
>http://www.advantex.net/ColdFusion/CFClusteringDoc.htm

Good article, but it doesn't impress the point that session variables 
must be locked. Which is why I switched to client variables. The fact 
that the application becomes clusterable is simply a nice side-effect 
for me. :)

I do like the idea of adding the timeout query as a stored procedure.
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Re: Client & Session variables?


Yeah, it was written in March before CFLOCKing exploded around here ;-)

best,  paul

At 12:52 PM 9/30/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Good article, but it doesn't impress the point that session variables
>must be locked.

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URgent CFServer maxing CPU and JIT error on Production Server.


Hi all,

We've recently moved a number of production sites onto a new server and are
now experiencing instances where the CPU is maxing out and lots of instances
of the following error throughout the different sites at seemingly random
places and times.

Error Diagnostic Information
Just in time compilation error

unknown parser error

The last successfully parsed CFML construct was the CFML template beginning
occupying document position (1:1) to (1:1).

Can anyone shed any light on what might be causing this?

The environment is NT4, SP6a, CF4.51 Enterprise, 99% Access db's, MDAC 2.5,
IIS4.0

The code was working totally error free on the previous machine before
moving.

Regards,
Dave

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Re: Client & Session variables?


Thanks for that Paul.

Now as a complete beginner with Session Management (never had to use it).
I've followed instructions on the site below, and it's working fine afaik.
But how about implementing it straight into a site?

For example on one of my sites I have a Members section which they can
personalise - they login in using their username and password...

 

So if the user and pass is OK, the rest of the page is displayed.  What I'd
like to do is after successful validation, use client vars in a DB so that
they will be logged in automatically next time.

How should I do this?

Thanks

Will


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Subject: Re: Client & Session variables?


> Detailed docs on setting up client vars in a DB and more are here:
>
> http://www.advantex.net/ColdFusion/CFClusteringDoc.htm
>
> best,  paul
>
> At 09:15 AM 9/30/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >On 9/29/00, W Luke penned:
> > >  > Use client variables, written to a database, whenever possible.
> > >
> > >Is there any documentation about writing client variables to a
database?  Or
> > >do you have any "starter for tens"?!
> >
> >What kind of documentation? CF will create the necessary tables if
> >you just give it an empty database. The tables and columns it creates
> >are, in Access, I can't remember off the top of my head what the
> >matching data types are in SQL:
>
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Re: Client & Session variables?


I just noticed the URLed article contains the following:


Personally, I require cookies on all of my sites, and I then provide 
adequate security and cookie information to the users who are refusing or 
unable to accept cookies so they know why we require them.  I prefer 
setting CFID and CFTOKEN to a "session-only" cookie so that the session is 
destroyed when the user closes their browser:




I then detect whether the user is able/willing to accept cookies, and 
redirect them to an information page if they are not, using some 
permutation of:
===

I did some testing recently, and found if the browser was set to NOT accept 
cookies, that the above session-only/browser-only cookies were accepted.

Did I screw up in my test?

best,  paul

At 12:52 PM 9/30/00 -0400, you wrote:
>On 9/30/00, paul smith penned:
> >Detailed docs on setting up client vars in a DB and more are here:
> >
> >http://www.advantex.net/ColdFusion/CFClusteringDoc.htm
>
>Good article, but it doesn't impress the point that session variables
>must be locked. Which is why I switched to client variables. The fact
>that the application becomes clusterable is simply a nice side-effect
>for me. :)
>
>I do like the idea of adding the timeout query as a stored procedure.
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Re: Authentication


If all you want is CC authorization before adding a record to the db, 
then you can do it easily with CF and a call to Cybercash (for 
example).  Most ISPs provide this linkage through a custom CF tag. 
There are some in the tag gallery.

Dick


At 11:39 AM -0400 9/30/00, Chuck wrote:
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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>   charset="iso-8859-1"
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
>Does anyone know of a CF based application like the one Flicks software =
>sells for ASP.  It is an authentication software that easily ties into =
>processing houses like Ibill.  I need an app like this for a client who =
>wants to put up a membership site, and wants the client added to the DB =
>only after their Credit card has been approved.  Here is the link to =
>webquota.  http://www.flicks.com/msystems/webquota/  =20
>
>Chuck Hergenroeder
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Re: [Re: Client & Session variables?]


Good articles.  But it's almost the same as the one in Cold Fusion Journal. 
I'm not sure which one was written first.

Also, some of the query will not work in this article.  For instance, those
ideas about checking client.LastVisit are wrong.  Also, you need to do
something to the User on the login page.  Otherwise those two tables in CVR DB
are wrong.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (paul smith) wrote:
> Detailed docs on setting up client vars in a DB and more are here:
> 
> http://www.advantex.net/ColdFusion/CFClusteringDoc.htm
> 
> best,  paul
> 
> At 09:15 AM 9/30/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >On 9/29/00, W Luke penned:
> > >  > Use client variables, written to a database, whenever possible.
> > >
> > >Is there any documentation about writing client variables to a database? 
Or
> > >do you have any "starter for tens"?!
> >
> >What kind of documentation? CF will create the necessary tables if
> >you just give it an empty database. The tables and columns it creates
> >are, in Access, I can't remember off the top of my head what the
> >matching data types are in SQL:
> 
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On 9/30/00, W Luke penned:
>For example on one of my sites I have a Members section which they can
>personalise - they login in using their username and password...
>
>  
>
>So if the user and pass is OK, the rest of the page is displayed.  What I'd
>like to do is after successful validation, use client vars in a DB so that
>they will be logged in automatically next time.
>
>How should I do this?

The problem with this, client variables can be set to be purged from 
the database after a set period, so unless you have your own server, 
you're at the mercy of the host. I believe the default is 10 days. I 
have my server set to expunge after one day because that's all I need 
for any app on my server. Now if someone requested I keep them 
longer, I may give them a week, but not much more than that because 
then the database just gets larger and larger. And I don't think 
there's any guarantee that the person will have the same cfid and 
cftoken generated by their browser (still a little confused by that 
one) if they've shut it down and come back a few days later.

I use cookies. Then they can click a checkbox if they want their 
password to be stored. Then you check like this (just an example from 
one of my apps):


















SELECT Cust_ID,Cust_FirstName
FROM Customers
WHERE Cust_ID = '#variables.member_id#' and password = 
'#variables.member_password#'




Welcome Back #Get_Id.Cust_FirstName#!







Login Failed
Show Login Form

Then as long as client.mem_id is not "" then they are logged in.
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Re: Client & Session
variables?
On 9/30/00, W Luke penned:
For example on one of my sites I have a
Members section which they can
personalise - they login in using their username and password...

 

So if the user and pass is OK, the rest of the page is
displayed.  What I'd
like to do is after successful validation, use client vars in a DB so
that
they will be logged in automatically next time.

How should I do this?

The problem with this, client variables can be set to be purged
from the database after a set period, so unless you have your own
server, you're at the mercy of the host. I believe the default is 10
days. I have my server set to expunge after one day because that's
all I need for any app on my server. Now if someone requested I keep
them longer, I may give them a week, but not much more than that
because then the database just gets larger and larger. And I don't
think there's any guarantee that the person will have the same cfid
and cftoken generated by their browser (still a little confused by
that one) if they've shut it down and come back a few days
later.

I use cookies. Then they can click a checkbox if they want their
password to be stored. Then you check like this (just an example from
one of my apps):


















SELECT Cust_ID,Cust_FirstName
FROM Customers
WHERE Cust_ID = '#variables.member_id#' and
password = '#variables.member_password#'




Welcome Back
#Get_Id.Cust_FirstName#!

Login Failed
Show Login Form
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Re: Client & Session variables?



> The problem with this, client variables can be set to be purged from
> the database after a set period, so unless you have your own server,
> you're at the mercy of the host.

Am I right in saying that using the database as the Client Storage method,
if the user doesn't have Cookies enabled it will still work? (i.e. pull
client's token from database, and client. variables).  Or am I way off the
mark?

>I believe the default is 10 days. I
> have my server set to expunge after one day because that's all I need
> for any app on my server. Now if someone requested I keep them
> longer

But why would you need to allow them to keep them longer?  If you set a
reasonably satisfactory limit (7 days seems fine to me), then the database
doesn't clog up, and 7 days is long enough.

> I use cookies. Then they can click a checkbox if they want their
> password to be stored. Then you check like this (just an example from
> one of my apps):

Could the same not be done with Database Client Storage means?  To me it
seems the best way - I don't have any figures on Cookie usage at hand
(anyone?) but some people are scared of the cookie monster, even nowadays.

Will

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Re: query caching?


Unfortunately with the large amount of items that the customer has control
of, they can add and delete items at will. Letting CF cache queries wont
work since there are no static queries (unless..just had a thought, see
below).
Maybe as we go on and collect some statistics as to what is popular.

This will also be a consumer based site, not b2b. So 56k must be taken into
account.

The data structure as it came from the client was horrible, we have done
quite a bit of tweaking, but I liked the idea of indivual keywords per
field. That would definately be more efficient, but each item can have many
keywords attached to it. These are like that company that does the url
keywords for msn...you type it in and you get the products that match that
keyword. We have a keyword search that searches all item descriptions
also...

I had a thought as I was typing this...What if I queried 20 records at a
time and displayed only 10. Then took the remaining ten and assigned them to
an array. When the user clicked next I could display the contents of the
array...seems very doable to me. What do you think?

Thanks for your help
jon


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Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: query caching?


> Depending on the totality of what you anticipate is going to be
> happening at any given time, you can:
>
> 1) let CF cache the queries... this is especially good if you
> anticipate that there will be a lot of similar queries as in
> drill-downs, or several users making identical queries (skewed
> popularity of certain items), e.g. today's specials, hot items, etc.
>
> 2) cache the queries yourself... more work for you, less for the db server
>
> 3) spew the recordset to the client (easy with WDDX), then do the
> drill-down at the client.  OK, if the user has the bandwidth, and a
> fast client machine (you can often assume/dictate this in a B2B
> application)
>
> 4) spew the recordset to the client as JavaScript array:
>
>  more work for you at the CF server
>
>  much less bandwith than a WDDX packet
>
>  much less work at the client
>
> Hmmm... 10 seconds to query sounds like some db redesign may be in order.
>
> This will vary with the db engine, but there are things you can do.
>
> I noticed that your db is denormalized (ProductsCategory,
> ProductsKeyWords, and maybe ProductsStyleNumber).  If you haven't
> already tried it, you might experiment with normalizng these... & let
> the db engine do its thing.  (you might be surprised by the results)
>
>
> HTH
>
> Dick
>
> At 6:38 PM -0400 9/29/00, Jon Hall wrote:
> >This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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> >Content-Type: text/plain;
> > charset="iso-8859-1"
> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >
> >Ok, maybe someone could point me in the right direction here. I am =
> >working with a database with 750,000 diferent products (yes 750,000). =
> >The database has been tweaked so that even the most complicated search =
> >only takes 10 seconds to return data on the development server.This wil =
> >lspeed up when it is live. That is fairly acceptable...
> >The problem is that each page takes 10 seconds...so when someone hits =
> >clicks "Next" to go to the next page, it has to requery.
> >Is there a way to optimize this? Perhaps some sort of read ahead =
> >caching? Any suggestions would be helpful. I am including the query code
=
> >below.
> >
> > >dbtype=3D"ODBC">
> >SELECT  cLinesID, cProductsNo, cProductsStyleNumber, cProductsName, =
> >cDescription, cProductsCategorys,cProductimage,cProductsPriceRange
> >FROM dbo.tProducts=20
> >WHERE   0=3D0=20
> >and (cProductimage > '')=20
> >
> >
> > and (cProductsCategorys like '%#user_category#%')
> >
> >
> >
> > and (cProductsStyleNumber LIKE '%#user_style#%')
> >
> >
> >
> > and (cProductsKeyWords LIKE '%#user_keyword#%')
> >
> >
> >
> > and (cProductspricerange >=3D #user_min#)
> >
> >
> >
> > and (cProductspricerange <=3D #user_max#)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >maxrows=3D#maxdisplay#>
> >
> >--=_NextPart_000_03AA_01C02A44.87489EC0
> >Content-Type: text/html;
> > charset="iso-8859-1"
> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >
> >
> >
> > >http-equiv=3DContent-Type>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Ok, maybe someone could point me in the
=
> >right=20
> >direction here. I am working with a database with 750,000 diferent =
> >products (yes=20
> >750,000). The database has been tweaked so that even the most =
> >complicated search=20
> >only takes 10 seconds to return data on the development server.This wil =
> >lspeed=20
> >up when it is live. That is fairly acceptable...
> >The problem is that each page takes 10 =
> >seconds...so=20
> >when someone hits clicks "Next" to go to the next page, it has to=20
> >requery.
> >Is there a way to optimize this? =
> >Perhaps some sort=20
> >of read ahead caching? Any suggestions woul

creating word docs and excel sheets on the fly...


I asked this question a couple days ago and received no responses, so I'm beginning to 
believe this is not possible.

I need to create a word doc or excel spreadsheet based upon a set of queries.  I know 
how to pass raw data into these new documents, that's no problem.  The problem is that 
I'd also like to pass along formatting codes for things like creating tables in Word 
and shading certain rows.

Does anyone know if this is even possible?

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RE: creating word docs and excel sheets on the fly...


This is certainly possible using  and VBA.
Do a search for 'Working with Tables' in Word's VB editor help to see code
samples.
ASP is probably a better choice than CF for this one.

P.

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Subject: creating word docs and excel sheets on the fly...


I asked this question a couple days ago and received no responses, so I'm
beginning to believe this is not possible.

I need to create a word doc or excel spreadsheet based upon a set of
queries.  I know how to pass raw data into these new documents, that's no
problem.  The problem is that I'd also like to pass along formatting codes
for things like creating tables in Word and shading certain rows.

Does anyone know if this is even possible?

---mark

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RE: creating word docs and excel sheets on the fly...


Seems as if you need to run some VB scripts to accomplish this. I recently
read an article (in CFDJ i think) that talked about this using a combination
of WDDX and VB. Good luck!

Sincerely,

Shane Witbeck
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Subject: creating word docs and excel sheets on the fly...


I asked this question a couple days ago and received no responses, so I'm
beginning to believe this is not possible.

I need to create a word doc or excel spreadsheet based upon a set of
queries.  I know how to pass raw data into these new documents, that's no
problem.  The problem is that I'd also like to pass along formatting codes
for things like creating tables in Word and shading certain rows.

Does anyone know if this is even possible?

---mark

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RE: creating word docs and excel sheets on the fly...


Another idea:
For Word:
Run the queries, create an HTML file and save it to disk.
Then open it in Word and save it as a Word doc.(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject: creating word docs and excel sheets on the fly...


I asked this question a couple days ago and received no responses, so I'm
beginning to believe this is not possible.

I need to create a word doc or excel spreadsheet based upon a set of
queries.  I know how to pass raw data into these new documents, that's no
problem.  The problem is that I'd also like to pass along formatting codes
for things like creating tables in Word and shading certain rows.

Does anyone know if this is even possible?

---mark

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RE: creating word docs and excel sheets on the fly...


I like the HTML idea.  That's a good one.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Peter Stolz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 12:44 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: creating word docs and excel sheets on the fly...
> 
> 
> Another idea:
> For Word:
> Run the queries, create an HTML file and save it to disk.
> Then open it in Word and save it as a Word doc.( It should look decent if the formatting isn't too complicated.
> 
> For Excel:
> Save the file as HTML.
> Do a web query programmatically (  This makes an HTTP call  and reads a preformatted web page into 
> EXCEL. Then
> save it as xls.
> For more info search for 'web query' in Excel help.
> 
> 
> P.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 3:14 PM
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> Subject: creating word docs and excel sheets on the fly...
> 
> 
> I asked this question a couple days ago and received no responses, so I'm
> beginning to believe this is not possible.
> 
> I need to create a word doc or excel spreadsheet based upon a set of
> queries.  I know how to pass raw data into these new documents, that's no
> problem.  The problem is that I'd also like to pass along formatting codes
> for things like creating tables in Word and shading certain rows.
> 
> Does anyone know if this is even possible?
> 
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Worldpay


Hi all,

I wonder, has anyone used Worldpay for any of their Clients or apps with
Cold Fusion - have you had any problems with it?

Cheers :)

Will

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Re: query caching?


CF caches dynamic queries, too.  It includes the SQL to distinguish one 
dynamic query from another.

For example, since #REQUEST.alpha# has the value of each of the 26 letters 
in the alphabet, the following query is chached in 26 different Queries, 
even though in my CF code I refer to all as REQUEST.GetHeadingsFirstLetter:


SELECT Class_ID,Class_Name,Pages
FROM YellowPages (nolock)
WHERE Class_Name LIKE '#REQUEST.alpha#%'
ORDER BY Class_Name


In addition, there is no limit on the number of queries CF will cache.
(The oft-noted limit of 100 is wrong.)

Of course, whether you want to, or should, cache queries in this way 
depends on many factors such as available memory, use a Structure instead, etc.

best,  paul

At 03:08 PM 9/30/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Unfortunately with the large amount of items that the customer has control
>of, they can add and delete items at will. Letting CF cache queries wont
>work since there are no static queries (unless..just had a thought, see
>below).

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storing CF code in a database


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Is it possible to store CF code in a database and then pull it out with =
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Is it possible to store CF code in a =
database and=20
then pull it out with a query and run the code?
 
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Re: query caching?


At 3:08 PM -0400 9/30/00, Jon Hall wrote:
>Unfortunately with the large amount of items that the customer has control
>of, they can add and delete items at will. Letting CF cache queries wont
>work since there are no static queries

The large # of items and the ability to update/insert/delete items at 
will, does not *necessarily* mean than CF caching wont help... 
follow me on this:

There is an old rule that often applies to parts, inventories, etc... 
the 80-20 rule.  After observing activity against large inventories 
it was found that:

   about 80% of the activity was against 20% of the items, and vice-versa

You often can apply this same "rule" to query activity.

If so, you will have a few high-activity, similar, queries; and many, 
many low-activity dissimilar queries.

drill-down accentuates this, as you will be repeating the 
high-activity queries.

So, if you can let CF cache the queries.  The similar, high-activity 
queries will tend to remain cached.  So, you can significantly 
improve performance of a significant part (80%) of the overall 
system... even if the components of the queries change frequently 
(requiring re-caching)

Now, the probability is that the "changes affecting caching" will be 
a small  (or zero) percentage of the queries during peak periods... 
then you *do* have "static" queries... at least for a useful amount 
of time.

I have done this successfully using cachedafter on the queries.

   set an application variable for each main table (used in all the queries)

 application.PartsLastUpdatedAt = now()

 update this each time you add/delete/change anything which will affect the
 queries

   reference this variable as the cachedafter designation in all the queries.

The beauty of this is that it is sell-tuning.  There is much 
potential gain & very little overhead,

Here is the best part, you can easily try this, with a little timing 
routine, and see if you have enough similar queries to benefit.

In a similar way, you can experiment with normalized child tables for 
the keywords, etc, without affecting the existing db structure...

Just create a (bastard) child table (no foreign key constraint) for testing.

Populate the child table by extracting the keywords from the parent.

Then write a simple query template to time the same query with the 
child and without.

If this gives improvement, then look into the indexing options of 
your specific database... you may be able to improve it even more.


>(unless..just had a thought, see
>below).
>Maybe as we go on and collect some statistics as to what is popular.
>
>This will also be a consumer based site, not b2b. So 56k must be taken into
>account.

That is not necessarily a problem... if you can efficiently send the 
data to the browser.  One bigger browser-server connection may be 
faster than many smaller browser-server connections.   This is 
especially significant when the network is congested & it could take 
2-3 seconds to establish each connection.

Also you would not need to repeat the queries for drill-down.

For example, your code indicated that you would return a max of 500 rows.

If each row required 100 characters to be transmitted to the browser 
that's 10-20 seconds for the largest query.  (and no additional 
browser-server connections to do the drill down).

>The data structure as it came from the client was horrible, we have done
>quite a bit of tweaking, but I liked the idea of indivual keywords per
>field. That would definately be more efficient, but each item can have many
>keywords attached to it.

all the more reason to normalize it... this is a performance storage 
tradeoff (as well as some others).  If you have the disk storage to 
afford a child table, the db engine can process this much more 
efficiently.

Try it... I think you'll be amazed at the results.

>These are like that company that does the url
>keywords for msn...you type it in and you get the products that match that
>keyword. We have a keyword search that searches all item descriptions
>also...
>
>I had a thought as I was typing this...What if I queried 20 records at a
>time and displayed only 10. Then took the remaining ten and assigned them to
>an array. When the user clicked next I could display the contents of the
>array...seems very doable to me. What do you think?

The first 20 I can see... how are you going to get the next 20?


HTH

Dick


>Thanks for your help
>jon
>
>
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>From: "Dick Applebaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 8:08 AM
>Subject: Re: query caching?
>
>
>>  Depending on the totality of what you anticipate is going to be
>>  happening at any given time, you can:
>>
>>  1) let CF cache the queries... this is especially good if you
>>  anticipate that there will be a lot of similar queries as in
>>  drill-downs, or several users making identical queries (skewed
>>  popularity of certain items), e.g. today's specials, ho

Re: storing CF code in a database


Sure. It's easy. Just use a query to store it and later retrieve it and run it with 
evaluate(variable).


At 03:07 PM 9/30/00 -0500, Camden Spiller wrote:
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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>
>Is it possible to store CF code in a database and then pull it out with =
>a query and run the code?
>
>Camden
>
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>
>Is it possible to store CF code in a = database and=20 then pull it out with a query 
>and run the code?
> 
>Camden
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Reading a file one line at a time with CFfile?


I have a text file that is 1315 characters wide, which is an exported Cobol
database that I reed to go through one record/line at a time and do some
mid() calls to retreive certain fields and insert them into an Access table.
I am unsure how to walk thru the file line by line. I do know how to use
mid() though. I could sure use some help here.

Terry Troxel

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Re: Client & Session variables?


On 9/30/00, W Luke penned:
>Am I right in saying that using the database as the Client Storage method,
>if the user doesn't have Cookies enabled it will still work? (i.e. pull
>client's token from database, and client. variables).  Or am I way off the
>mark?

As long as you pass cfid and cftoken in every link, just like with 
session variables. :)

>  >I believe the default is 10 days. I
>>  have my server set to expunge after one day because that's all I need
>>  for any app on my server. Now if someone requested I keep them
>>  longer
>
>But why would you need to allow them to keep them longer?  If you set a
>reasonably satisfactory limit (7 days seems fine to me), then the database
>doesn't clog up, and 7 days is long enough.

Sure, but like I said. You are at the mercy of the host if it's not 
your machine. I have mine set to die in one day.

>  > I use cookies. Then they can click a checkbox if they want their
>>  password to be stored. Then you check like this (just an example from
>>  one of my apps):
>
>Could the same not be done with Database Client Storage means?  To me it
>seems the best way - I don't have any figures on Cookie usage at hand
>(anyone?) but some people are scared of the cookie monster, even nowadays.

If they don't have cookies enabled, then I believe a new cfid and 
cftoken will be created on every click since CF won't know that it's 
the same person clicking. Even if you pass cfid and cftoken, it's 
only going to be good until they leave the site. Next visit they will 
be given a NEW cfid and cftoken.

So to summarize, as long as they have cookies enabled and come back 
before the client variables are deleted from the database, then yes, 
your method will work. If they don't have cookies enabled or come 
back after the data is purged, it won't.


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Re: Reading a file one line at a time with CFfile?


With CFFILE you're only able to read the entire file into a variable.  Treat
the file contents as a list, using carriage returns and/or line feeds as
delimiters.  Because of the way CF handles lists and delimiters, the
following code works regardless of whether carriage returns, line feeds or
any comibination of the two were used between lines.



  
  ...


Jim


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Subject: Reading a file one line at a time with CFfile?


> I have a text file that is 1315 characters wide, which is an exported
Cobol
> database that I reed to go through one record/line at a time and do some
> mid() calls to retreive certain fields and insert them into an Access
table.
> I am unsure how to walk thru the file line by line. I do know how to use
> mid() though. I could sure use some help here.
>
> Terry Troxel

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Re: Client & Session variables?


Right.  New cfid/cftoken every click (in IE).

However, if the user selects the following in Netscrape:

"Accept only cookies that get sent back to the originating server"

Then state is maintained from one click to the next (and I assume no cookie 
is set on the users machine).

best,  paul

At 05:46 PM 9/30/00 -0400, you wrote:
>If they don't have cookies enabled, then I believe a new cfid and
>cftoken will be created on every click since CF won't know that it's
>the same person clicking. Even if you pass cfid and cftoken, it's
>only going to be good until they leave the site. Next visit they will
>be given a NEW cfid and cftoken.

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Re: Reading a file one line at a time with CFfile?


Jim,

Thanks for the lightening quick reply.
I totally forgot about the carraige return. I will work with your method as
it sure looks sound.

Thanks again

Terry Troxel

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> With CFFILE you're only able to read the entire file into a variable.
Treat
> the file contents as a list, using carriage returns and/or line feeds as
> delimiters.  Because of the way CF handles lists and delimiters, the
> following code works regardless of whether carriage returns, line feeds or
> any comibination of the two were used between lines.
>
> 
> 
>   
>   ...
> 
>
> Jim
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Terry - it-werks.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 3:33 PM
> Subject: Reading a file one line at a time with CFfile?
>
>
> > I have a text file that is 1315 characters wide, which is an exported
> Cobol
> > database that I reed to go through one record/line at a time and do some
> > mid() calls to retreive certain fields and insert them into an Access
> table.
> > I am unsure how to walk thru the file line by line. I do know how to use
> > mid() though. I could sure use some help here.
> >
> > Terry Troxel
>
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Re: Client & Session variables?


I just noticed that a comma-delimited List of numerals can be stored as a 
Client variable in a database without having to be 
WDDX-serialized.  Cool.  This saves some processing overhead.

best,  paul

At 09:15 AM 9/30/00 -0400, you wrote:
>The biggest difference in the setup is, if you have complex objects
>other than simple strings you have to serialize them into WDDX
>packets. Then deserialize them into a local variable.

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Re: Client & Session variables?


On 9/30/00, paul smith penned:
>"Accept only cookies that get sent back to the originating server"
>
>Then state is maintained from one click to the next (and I assume no cookie
>is set on the users machine).

Really? If they can maintain state from one click to the next without 
cookies and without variables being passed, why isn't that done all 
the time?
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Re: Client & Session variables?


On 9/30/00, paul smith penned:
>I just noticed that a comma-delimited List of numerals can be stored as a
>Client variable in a database without having to be
>WDDX-serialized.  Cool.  This saves some processing overhead.

Anything that's a string can be stored as a client variable without 
WDDX. If you can type it, you can store it. Arrays, structures, etc, 
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Wantad/ Classifieds program


Hello,

Was wondering if anyone knows of a good CF or perhaps perl  Want Ad program. It needs  
it to beable to take credit cards, notify people when there ad is about to expire and 
allows them
to edit/ and ad pictures to there ad. Price probably around $300.00 or below ?

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A Rookie Question??


I am learning Cold Fusion using the MS Access database and learning more and
more each day.  What is the difference between using Access and SQL?  Is is
just that SQL is for larger applications?  Is it just as easy to use SQL?  I
am in the dark on this, please shed some light.

Thanks,
Rich

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Re: A Rookie Question??


Best short answer you'll ever find is Ch. 6 of Forta's book CFWAK

HTH

Dick

At 11:19 PM -0400 9/30/00, HappyToad.com wrote:
>I am learning Cold Fusion using the MS Access database and learning more and
>more each day.  What is the difference between using Access and SQL?  Is is
>just that SQL is for larger applications?  Is it just as easy to use SQL?  I
>am in the dark on this, please shed some light.
>
>Thanks,
>Rich
>
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Re: Client & Session variables?


Well, there are cookies.  They're in the browser only, and not
set on the user's machine.  So they can maintain state in a
session, but not be useful from one session to another.

best,  paul

At 08:56 PM 9/30/00 -0400, you wrote:
>On 9/30/00, paul smith penned:
> >"Accept only cookies that get sent back to the originating server"
> >
> >Then state is maintained from one click to the next (and I assume no cookie
> >is set on the users machine).
>
>Really? If they can maintain state from one click to the next without
>cookies and without variables being passed, why isn't that done all
>the time?
>-

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Upsizing Problems using access 2000 to sql


I am trying to upsize some of my tables that are full of data upsized fine
according to the upsize report whilst other tables with little data did not

table one table as an example Properties Categories it has  2 fields in it
an id field that is the primary key and a category field

the id field is auto number (and yes I have converted it to just number and
still not go same error) and the category field is simply a text field

in the upsize report it says table was skipped or upsize failed

in comparison I then have a guest comments table with around 15 fields that
has around 40 records in the table its id field is set to auto number there
is a data/time field as well along with plenty of differ text fields in the
upsize report this table "guest comment" upsized perfectly.

your words  of wisdom would be appreciated

also does anyone know a url link where I can download enterprise manager. As
I do not have a copy of sql server I was wanting to admin the sql database
via the access 2000 front end without having to buy sql and also learn a new
database package


Kind Regards

Claude Raiola (Director)
AustralianAccommodation.com Pty. Ltd.
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Which is Faster?


Which do you expect to be faster?  1 or 2?  Why?

1.  


2.  

best,  paul

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Re: URgent CFServer maxing CPU and JIT error on Production Server.


Just try by removing sp6a & installing sp5. Also if doesn't work remove MDAC
2.5 & install the original 2.3 which comes with CF Server.



Rahul


> The environment is NT4, SP6a, CF4.51 Enterprise, 99% Access db's, MDAC
2.5,
> IIS4.0
>
> The code was working totally error free on the previous machine before
> moving.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
> Dave Wilson
> Internet Technology Manager
> 
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> BizNet Solutions
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> Belfast
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