RE: The BETA IS OUT!!! (query a query)

2001-02-05 Thread Daniel Kemp

> query against it shouldn't really exact addtional memory requirements.
> Sounds like it could be an enormous memory hog if used as above.

Buy more memory, (enormous memory if needed), your users deserve it.


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CLOB fields in Oracle databases

2001-02-05 Thread Francisco Montes; Spain on Line

Hi everyone!

I´m going through a bit of a problem here while trying to retrieve data from a CLOB 
data type field from an Oracle 8i database. I´m trying to retrieve its contents with a 
normal CFQUERY but i keep getting nothing!

Any ideas why i´m not getting anything? What am i doing wrong?

TIA

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Re: CLOB fields in Oracle databases

2001-02-05 Thread Paul Hastings

> I´m going through a bit of a problem here while trying to retrieve data
from a CLOB data type field from an Oracle 8i database. I´m trying to
retrieve its contents with a normal CFQUERY but i keep getting nothing!

if i recall, there's a CFX_J tag in the gallery that will handle oracle's
BLOBs.


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RE: The BETA IS OUT!!! (query a query)

2001-02-05 Thread Bill Grover

I've been following the thread (or at least trying!).  I've yet to see the following 
use for the query a query.

In my case I have 2 databases.  The first one is a FoxPro system that contains the 
current location of a job in our shop along with any production notes from the various 
production departments.  The second database is in SQL Server and contains detailed 
production information about the same jobs.

I need to produce a web page that merges the 2 systems together.  Currently I have to 
do a query against the SQL Server database, loop through each record and run a query 
against the FoxPro system go generate my output.  With the new functionality I can 
query my SQL Server database and FoxPro system separately then run a query that does a 
"Select Fox.Data, SQL.Data from Fox, SqL where Fox.Job = SQL.Job" and then output the 
resulting dataset.

This is somewhat simplified but is an example of something I've needed to do for quite 
awhile and have never been able to do directly within CF.

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SPS

2001-02-05 Thread Darren Daniel

Does anyone have info on a scripting language called .sps?   I saw it on the
Manchester United webpage and was curious to find out more about it.

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session variables timing out

2001-02-05 Thread sebastian palmigiani



I have a site with 2 sections. The members only directory uses the
application scope with session variables and the general public directories
are all html files without any application.cfm.

If a user goes from the member site to the public site and is active in the
public site does that activity postpone the session variables timing out in
the member site? My guess is no.

Thanks
Sebastian


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Re: Network Scenario

2001-02-05 Thread Jeffry Houser


  It sounds like this is what ColdFusion is intended for, except on a much smaller 
scale.  I doubt you'll have any
problems.  You might even be able to get away with using Access if you can guarantee 
only 8 people are going to be
using the database, although, if you don't have to, I wouldn't.

   You'll have to make sure that all the laptops have TCP/IP set up (<-- is that 
obvious?) and I don't anticipate
any problems.


Les Irvin wrote:

> I need some advice...
> I'd like to use Cold Fusion in the following way:
> - 8 people with laptops networked together.
> - One laptop acting as the Cold Fusion server.
> - All 8 people simultaneously querying/updating/editing the database on the
> server through their browsers.
>
> Is it possible? What restrictions would I have? What sort of problems
> should I expect?
> Thanks in advance for any input.
> Les
>
>
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RE: SPS

2001-02-05 Thread Neil Clark

As far as I am aware it is a feature of a Sun Microsystems technology.
Probably one of their out of the box products.

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RE: session variables timing out

2001-02-05 Thread Jeff Beer

Hi Sebastian,

You are correct.  If the public area is all .htm(l) files (rather, non
..cfm), the CF server is never invoked, and can't reset the sessions.

You could rename all files to .cfm and put the application.cfm in root.  Of
course, you'll be using CF server to process html pages for no practical
reason (other than maintaining state). Depending on your server's load, it
probably won't be a problem.

Good luck,

Jeff

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Subject: session variables timing out




I have a site with 2 sections. The members only directory uses the
application scope with session variables and the general public directories
are all html files without any application.cfm.

If a user goes from the member site to the public site and is active in the
public site does that activity postpone the session variables timing out in
the member site? My guess is no.

Thanks
Sebastian
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Somewhat OT???Escaping Hexidecimal

2001-02-05 Thread Richard L Smith

Hey everone:

Does anyone know a way to escape hex values, ie 
stuff like #FF CF throws an error when I do this

The only work around I have found to date is to leave
off the # from hex values it seems to work ok. but creates
odd looking code.

Any ideas

Rick


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Syntax for binding a query?

2001-02-05 Thread Terri Stocke

Hey all,

Can anyone tell me what the SQL syntax is for binding a query (Oracle db)?

Thanks!
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RE: Somewhat OT???Escaping Hexidecimal

2001-02-05 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP

> Does anyone know a way to escape hex values, ie
> stuff like #FF CF throws an error when I do this
>
> The only work around I have found to date is to leave
> off the # from hex values it seems to work ok. but creates
> odd looking code.

Within a CFOutput or CFSet you need to double #s, otherwise it thinks it's a
variable name

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Re: Somewhat OT???Escaping Hexidecimal

2001-02-05 Thread Terri Stocke

Hi Rick,

You escape the hexadecimal values by adding another # sign...

e.g., "##FF"

Terri


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Subject: Somewhat OT???Escaping Hexidecimal
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 08:31:07 -0500

Hey everone:

Does anyone know a way to escape hex values, ie
stuff like #FF CF throws an error when I do this

The only work around I have found to date is to leave
off the # from hex values it seems to work ok. but creates
odd looking code.

Any ideas

Rick
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Re: Somewhat OT???Escaping Hexidecimal

2001-02-05 Thread Marius Milosav

or double it
##FF

odd looking too:)

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- Original Message -
From: "Richard L Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 8:31 AM
Subject: Somewhat OT???Escaping Hexidecimal


> Hey everone:
>
> Does anyone know a way to escape hex values, ie
> stuff like #FF CF throws an error when I do this
>
> The only work around I have found to date is to leave
> off the # from hex values it seems to work ok. but creates
> odd looking code.
>
> Any ideas
>
> Rick
>
>
>
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Re: Somewhat OT???Escaping Hexidecimal

2001-02-05 Thread Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd

escape it with another #

##FF

this is only necessary between a set of   tags

At 08:31 AM 2/5/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Hey everone:
>
>Does anyone know a way to escape hex values, ie
>stuff like #FF CF throws an error when I do this
>
>The only work around I have found to date is to leave
>off the # from hex values it seems to work ok. but creates
>odd looking code.
>
>Any ideas
>
>Rick
>
>
>
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RE: multi-part mail

2001-02-05 Thread Seth Ward

I don't think you can send multipart emails with cfmail, you'll need to
use IMS or use another workaround. IMS have a free version of their post
server at the moment, you can get it at www.coolfusion.com

Alternatively you can use cfmail to send a html-only version that will
work fine on all html-compatible email clients. Just use:

type="HTML" in the cfmail tag

-Original Message-
From: Michael de Lucia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 02 February 2001 16:18
To: CF-Talk
Subject: multi-part mail


Hello,

How can I send a mutli-part e-mail using CFMAIL in a way that I can bind
an image to the mail so it can used in the e-mail signature  (typically
the company logo).

Attachement will of course not do the trick since the image is used for
in the layout of the HTML format e-mail.

Thx in advance,

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RE: Somewhat OT???Escaping Hexidecimal

2001-02-05 Thread Tim Fields

Go with the "double it" idea to insure cross browser compatibility. Don't
break coding conventions where you don't *have* to.



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Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 8:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Somewhat OT???Escaping Hexidecimal


or double it
##FF

odd looking too:)

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From: "Richard L Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 8:31 AM
Subject: Somewhat OT???Escaping Hexidecimal


> Hey everone:
>
> Does anyone know a way to escape hex values, ie
> stuff like #FF CF throws an error when I do this
>
> The only work around I have found to date is to leave
> off the # from hex values it seems to work ok. but creates
> odd looking code.
>
> Any ideas
>
> Rick
>
>
>
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RE: Somewhat OT???Escaping Hexidecimal

2001-02-05 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP

On this subject (and I know I'm being a pest about this), has anyone got
anywhere with the beginnings of the CF-FAQ?

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RE: SPS

2001-02-05 Thread Neil Clark


http://www.sun.com/desktop/success/manchester_united.html;$sessionid$QFEXRMY
AABQBFAMTA1FU3NQ


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RE: Syntax for binding a query?

2001-02-05 Thread DeVoil, Nick

> Can anyone tell me what the SQL syntax is for binding a query (Oracle db)?

Terri,

Not sure what you mean.

To me "binding a query" refers to the action of associating values
with variable names when when querying a database. In SQL this is
simply done by saying "WHERE columnname = value".

Or are you asking about "bind variables" in Oracle PL/SQL?
These are local variables in stored procedures or triggers which you
declare "VARIABLE variablename datatype" and refer to by saying
something like ":variablename := value"

Nick


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CFMAIL spooling error message

2001-02-05 Thread Aidan Whitehall

Has anyone seen this message before when trying to use CFMAIL?


Error occurred while attempting to spool mail message to
file (spool directory = 'd:\CFUSION\MAIL\SPOOL\',
recipient='[EMAIL PROTECTED]', subject='Action')

All or part of the path is invalid. (Filename=)


The code is:


   #username# tried to log On!


The directory d:\cfusion\mail\spool\ exists on the ColdFusion server and the
drive isn't full.



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RE: CFMAIL spooling error message

2001-02-05 Thread Aidan Whitehall

> Has anyone seen this message before when trying to use CFMAIL?
> 
> 
> Error occurred while attempting to spool mail message to
> file (spool directory = 'd:\CFUSION\MAIL\SPOOL\',
> recipient='[EMAIL PROTECTED]', subject='Action')
> [ snip ]

I just tried removing the SERVER value and letting it use the default mail
server in CF Administrator, but am still seeing the same error message.



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Problems with IsAuthorized

2001-02-05 Thread Thomas Chiverton

Attached is a gif that hopefully explains the policy I have in place, a
userobject called display, that only has me listed, and I have no execute
permission for (ie, there are no Resource Rules for the policy 'Default',
the only policy in the PS_Private context, which only has enable for
resource types:user object ticked)

I'm using a Application.cfm to do auth. against our NT domain, which works
fine, but when I try to use:

Auth1: #IsAuthenticated()# 
Auth2: YESNO

I always get the result "Auth1: Yes Auth2: Yes", even if I change display to
'sadfasfaf' and execute to 'werqwrq', which is not the behaviour I expect -
surly for non existant objects it should give 'NO', and anyways, I'm not
authorised to execute that object, so it should be 'NO' in any case ?

Its CF 4.5.1 on NT/IIS

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RE: Syntax for binding a query?

2001-02-05 Thread Terri Stocke

Oops. Yes, I should have been more specific :) and stipulated "bind 
variables". I'm talking about improving our db performance by "caching" the 
best execution paths for the queries.

I know 4.5 uses the CFQUERYPARAM tag, but alas, we are still on 4.0.
I was hoping that there would be an equivalent way in 4.0 that would be 
relatively painless, but from what I've found so far, it looks like our only 
choice would be to used stored procedures to pass the variables to Oracle 
and allow Oracle to do the rest...




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Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 15:26:04 -

 > Can anyone tell me what the SQL syntax is for binding a query (Oracle 
db)?

Terri,

Not sure what you mean.

To me "binding a query" refers to the action of associating values
with variable names when when querying a database. In SQL this is
simply done by saying "WHERE columnname = value".

Or are you asking about "bind variables" in Oracle PL/SQL?
These are local variables in stored procedures or triggers which you
declare "VARIABLE variablename datatype" and refer to by saying
something like ":variablename := value"

Nick


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Re: CFMAIL spooling error message

2001-02-05 Thread Howie Hamlin

The Server value will have no affect on how the mail is written to the
spool.  Is this error happening continually?  Are there any files in the
spool folder?  What do you have in the following reg key:

HKLM\\Software\Allaire\ColdFusion\CurrentVersion\Mail\BaseDirectory

Are you running CF under something other than the system account?  If so,
does the user have rights to the spool folder?

Do you, maybe , have a file called d:\cfusion\mail\spool?

Regards,

Howie

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> > Has anyone seen this message before when trying to use CFMAIL?
> >
> > 
> > Error occurred while attempting to spool mail message to
> > file (spool directory = 'd:\CFUSION\MAIL\SPOOL\',
> > recipient='[EMAIL PROTECTED]', subject='Action')
> > [ snip ]
>
> I just tried removing the SERVER value and letting it use the default mail
> server in CF Administrator, but am still seeing the same error message.
>
>
>
> --
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> Fax +44 (01744) 648651
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RE: Problems with IsAuthorized

2001-02-05 Thread Raymond Camden

Default behaviour for non existant obs/policies will be true for
IsAuthorized.
As for your userobject, display, try IsProtected() on it and see if it's
returning true.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 11:14 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Problems with IsAuthorized
>
>
> Attached is a gif that hopefully explains the policy I have in place, a
> userobject called display, that only has me listed, and I have no execute
> permission for (ie, there are no Resource Rules for the policy 'Default',
> the only policy in the PS_Private context, which only has enable for
> resource types:user object ticked)
>
> I'm using a Application.cfm to do auth. against our NT domain, which works
> fine, but when I try to use:
> 
> Auth1: #IsAuthenticated()#
> Auth2:  IsAuthorized("UserObject","display","execute")>YESNO
> 
> I always get the result "Auth1: Yes Auth2: Yes", even if I change
> display to
> 'sadfasfaf' and execute to 'werqwrq', which is not the behaviour
> I expect -
> surly for non existant objects it should give 'NO', and anyways, I'm not
> authorised to execute that object, so it should be 'NO' in any case ?
>
> Its CF 4.5.1 on NT/IIS
>


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OT: JS syntax error

2001-02-05 Thread Gene Kraybill

This code works in IE, but not in Netscape (4.61)... Can someone help?

function windowOpen() {
leftPos=0;
if (screen) {
leftPos=screen.width-420;
topPos=screen.height-470;
}
var myWindow=
window.open('index.cfm?fuseapp=Products&fuseaction=Catalog','PopUp',
'height=screen.height,width=400,left='+leftPos+',top=30,scrollbars=yes,resizable=no,
toolbar=no,menubar=no');
if (!myWindow.opener) myWindow.opener = self;
}

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RE: Problems with IsAuthorized

2001-02-05 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP

> Attached is a gif that hopefully explains the policy I have in place

It won't be as the CF-Talk list cuts off all attachments - it's an extreme
way of stopping Viruses spreading, and I'm DAMN happy it's there 

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Anybody know anything about Intershipper?

2001-02-05 Thread Dave Hannum

It appears that since Jan, 30, the Intershipper interface on one of my sites
has not been working.  Anybody else having a problem?  Is Intershipper the
problem or should I be looking at our end?

Dave






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RE: Problems with IsAuthorized

2001-02-05 Thread Keith Thornburn

Thomas,

Unless something is defined as Protected in the Advanced Security setup then

IsAuthorized("UserObject","display","execute")

will always return 'true'.  The IsAuthenticated is returning 'true' because
you have already logged in.

To get round this you can do an IsProtected("display") before you do the
IsAuthorized() call.  If it isn't protected then you can assume that either

1. everyone can access it
2. nobody can access it

HTH,

Keith


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 05 February 2001 16:14
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Problems with IsAuthorized


Attached is a gif that hopefully explains the policy I have in place, a
userobject called display, that only has me listed, and I have no execute
permission for (ie, there are no Resource Rules for the policy 'Default',
the only policy in the PS_Private context, which only has enable for
resource types:user object ticked)

I'm using a Application.cfm to do auth. against our NT domain, which works
fine, but when I try to use:

Auth1: #IsAuthenticated()#
Auth2: YESNO

I always get the result "Auth1: Yes Auth2: Yes", even if I change display to
'sadfasfaf' and execute to 'werqwrq', which is not the behaviour I expect -
surly for non existant objects it should give 'NO', and anyways, I'm not
authorised to execute that object, so it should be 'NO' in any case ?

Its CF 4.5.1 on NT/IIS

Regards,
 <>
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Recovered from laptop crash
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RE: Problems with IsAuthorized

2001-02-05 Thread Thomas Chiverton

Oops,
try http://www.compsoc.man.ac.uk/~falken/pic1.gif :-)

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Chiverton 
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 4:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Problems with IsAuthorized


Attached is a gif that hopefully explains the policy I have in place, a
userobject called display, that only has me listed, and I have no execute
permission for (ie, there are no Resource Rules for the policy 'Default',
the only policy in the PS_Private context, which only has enable for
resource types:user object ticked)

I'm using a Application.cfm to do auth. against our NT domain, which works
fine, but when I try to use:

Auth1: #IsAuthenticated()# 
Auth2: YESNO

I always get the result "Auth1: Yes Auth2: Yes", even if I change display to
'sadfasfaf' and execute to 'werqwrq', which is not the behaviour I expect -
surly for non existant objects it should give 'NO', and anyways, I'm not
authorised to execute that object, so it should be 'NO' in any case ?

Its CF 4.5.1 on NT/IIS

Regards,
 <> 
Thomas Chiverton
Office: 01565 757 909
Recovered from laptop crash
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Verity Indexing strategies

2001-02-05 Thread Adam Reynolds

I'm probably being to lazy here, but here goes. I will state now that I
have not run this code, but I am just trying to understand collections and
how they work.

I've created a content management system. A document entry has:
document_id, title, summary. Optionally the document has a url or
document_text or a file. The files are stored outside of the web root and
delivered by cfcontent.

I have a reindex action that does the following:
1) Destroy the collection.
2) Recreate the collection.
3) Select the set of 'approved' documents (so those that are visible to
end-users) and generate the collection entries via:

4) This is where the problem starts... I then check to see if a document
has an associated file and want to index the file. Documents are stored in
a tree hierachy : siteidentifier/section/filename. In theory I want to
index a file against a reference of its document_id. Documents have
associated with them specific 'rights' so all that a verity returns is not
always valid for that end user and I really need that document_id.

Theoretically I can convert the document path (if available) into a list
and then determine the section, the filename and from that derive the
document_id. This will probably mean setting up a number of extra indexes
on the database table for speeds sake.

So the question is, can I index a document that is stored offline, while
referencing against an document_id (not the filename or url). Please note
that the collection will already be using the document_id as part of a
previous index of type custom.

Answers in less than a thousand words and preferably not "no". :-)



Best Regards,

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ColdFusion Web Developer
ISMG Development, Unilever
London

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Re:RE: Help: WDDX deserialize problem - still get error

2001-02-05 Thread Carol Bluestein

Hi Simon... and others who responded.

Thank you  for getting back to me so quickly.
I actually copied my original code from Forta's Advanced ColdFusion Application
Development 4.0, Page. 284: Chapter 16 16  Using WDDX to Create Distributed
Applications.

However, I changed my code as you suggested and I am still getting problems.  I
am running 4.0.1 CF SYBASE Advantage holds my database and I'm on a UNIX CF
server.


 


  

 

On the action page:



 


Results:

Error Occurred While Processing Request
Error Diagnostic Information XML parsing error: not well-formed (error code 4,
line 1, column 11, buffer offset 11)  The error occurred while processing an
element with a general identifier of (CFWDDX), occupying document position
(12:2) to (15:21) in the template file
/albweb/inet/docs/intranet/cfapps/star/sync/tt_wddx_action.cfm  The specific
sequence of files included or processed is:
/albweb/inet/docs/intranet/cfapps/star/sync/tt_wddx_action.cfm . Date/Time: Mon
Feb 05 11:33:45 2001 Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT)
Remote Address: 10.57.92.152 HTTP Referer:
http://albwebdev2/cfapps/star/sync/tt_wddx.cfm Template:
/albweb/inet/docs/intranet/cfapps/star/sync/tt_wddx_action.cfm  

Execution Time 
50 milliseconds

Parameters
Form Fields:

SUBMIT=Continue
WDDXCONTENT=#wddxPacket#
FIELDNAMES=WDDXCONTENT,SUBMIT



Carol L. Bluestein
Senior Programmer
NYS Office of Real Property
518-486-6335
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Reply Separator
Subject:RE: Help: WDDX deserialize problem
Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   2/2/01 3:51 PM

HTML Formatting the XML Packet "breaks" the XML formatting.  You shouldn't
need to HTMLFormat the variable before passing it.  If you wanted to format
it at all and still be able to use it as XML, I'd think you'd want to use
the XMLFormat() function.

~Simon

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> Certified ColdFusion Developer
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> 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 3:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Help: WDDX deserialize problem


I'm sure this is a Friday problem and I'm just brain dead but I have no idea
what is going wrong or what the message directs me to correct.  Something is
happening and I've no idea how to fix it or where to look.  Would appreciate
it
if someone could point me in right direction.  It is probably right under my
nose but it has eluded me for longer than I care to say.




Works fine: dump shows all info, no problem  (fields that have NULL in them
are
showing up empty)

#HTMLEditFormat(wddxPacket)#  : also shows everything, no problem

OK.  Stick in a form.


   



B!

Error Diagnostic Information
XML parsing error: not well-formed (error code 4, line 1, column 15, buffer
offset 15) 
The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of
(CFWDDX), occupying document position (50:1) to (53:20) in the template file
/albweb/inet/docs/intranet/cfapps/star/sync/sync_main_action2.cfm 
The specific sequence of files included or processed is:
/albweb/inet/docs/intranet/cfapps/star/sync/sync_main_action2.cfm .
Date/Time: Fri Feb 02 15:32:13 2001
Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT)
Remote Address: 10.57.92.152
HTTP Referer: http://albwebdev2/cfapps/star/sync/sync_main_action.cfm
Template: /albweb/inet/docs/intranet/cfapps/star/sync/sync_main_action2.cfm

Thanks, in advance,
Carol


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NYS Office of Real Property
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Verity Basics - Help please

2001-02-05 Thread JMilks

Hi All,
I have not used Verity a whole lot, so would appreciate some advice.

I have a client who has a CF site that was built by someone, somewhere and a
Verity collection was created. The client has since deleted some files, and
tried to re-index so that the deleted files would no longer apprear in the
search results. I *THINK* the person at the controls did a "Purge". It
re-indexed, but for some reason, included the sub-folder name where the .cfm
search template are, and is appending it to the URL of each result. So I can
search accurately, but when I click a resulting URL, I get a 404 because the
URL is something like this:

http://mysite/SEARCH/agreement/file.htm

The path is OK *EXCEPT* the "Search" folder in the path. As stated, this is
not where the indexed/searchable files are, but where the cf template uses
to initiate the search is. To make matters worse, the server is half way
across the country, and the IT staff there know NOTHING about CF and will
not give me access, and expect me to coach them via e-mail.

Couls someone also clarify the difference between "Index" "Repair"
"Optimize" and "Purge"?

Thanks

James


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RE: RE: Help: WDDX deserialize problem - still get error

2001-02-05 Thread Dave Watts

I think this is your problem:

> Parameters
> Form Fields:
> 
> SUBMIT=Continue
> WDDXCONTENT=#wddxPacket#
> FIELDNAMES=WDDXCONTENT,SUBMIT

In the WDDXCONTENT field, you should have a WDDX packet, not a reference to
one. In your form, make sure you're evaluating the variable:



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CF Server Feedback

2001-02-05 Thread Jason Larson


Does anybody have any input for a cheap CF Server, I have a limited Budget?
What kind a system would be the best(cheapest) way to suite my needs. I am a
small time developer, most of my clients have low traffic at this point, my
highest trafficed client is getting about 5,000 page views a day. I am
pretty new to Web Servers and Networking as well. I will be hosting less
then 50 accounts for know.

Here's what I have been looking at:

-512K DSL Connection
-Linksys DSL Router

Server 1
-CF Professional (Entriprise pushes me out of my budget)
-Windows 2000
-O'Reilly Website
-Media House Live Stats

Server 2
-SQL Server
-IpSwitch I-Mail
-Name Server

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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I figured it out - THANKS

2001-02-05 Thread Jeffrey Thomas

Heath,
I figured out how to verify all questions were being answered.

Thanks,
Jeff


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RE: Syntax for binding a query?

2001-02-05 Thread DeVoil, Nick

Yes, that sounds like a good idea.

I don't think CFQUERYPARAM would have helped you with
performance anyway. It just validates the parameters
you pass to the stored procedure.

I'm guessing here but are you actually looking for the
syntax for passing parameters to an Oracle stored procedure?

In which case you want something like


(CF template)








(SQL for creating the stored procedure)

create or replace procedure procname
(variablename in varchar2) as
begin

select columnname from  tablename
where columnname = variablename;

...

end procname;


I think you only need to use *bind variables* if you are going
to build the SQL statement dynamically within the stored
procedure and execute it with EXECUTE IMMEDIATE. But that's only
if you don't know which columns ar tables are going to be
referenced until runtime. 

Nick

-Original Message-
From: Terri Stocke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 4:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Syntax for binding a query?


Oops. Yes, I should have been more specific :) and stipulated "bind 
variables". I'm talking about improving our db performance by "caching" the 
best execution paths for the queries.

I know 4.5 uses the CFQUERYPARAM tag, but alas, we are still on 4.0.
I was hoping that there would be an equivalent way in 4.0 that would be 
relatively painless, but from what I've found so far, it looks like our only

choice would be to used stored procedures to pass the variables to Oracle 
and allow Oracle to do the rest...




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Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 15:26:04 -

 > Can anyone tell me what the SQL syntax is for binding a query (Oracle 
db)?

Terri,

Not sure what you mean.

To me "binding a query" refers to the action of associating values
with variable names when when querying a database. In SQL this is
simply done by saying "WHERE columnname = value".

Or are you asking about "bind variables" in Oracle PL/SQL?
These are local variables in stored procedures or triggers which you
declare "VARIABLE variablename datatype" and refer to by saying
something like ":variablename := value"

Nick


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RE: JS syntax error

2001-02-05 Thread DeVoil, Nick

Gene

left and top are screenX and screenY in NN.

Nick

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From: Gene Kraybill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 7:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: JS syntax error


This code works in IE, but not in Netscape (4.61)... Can someone help?

function windowOpen() {
leftPos=0;
if (screen) {
leftPos=screen.width-420;
topPos=screen.height-470;
}
var myWindow=
window.open('index.cfm?fuseapp=Products&fuseaction=Catalog','PopUp',
'height=screen.height,width=400,left='+leftPos+',top=30,scrollbars=yes,resiz
able=no,
toolbar=no,menubar=no');
if (!myWindow.opener) myWindow.opener = self;
}

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RE: Anybody know anything about Intershipper?

2001-02-05 Thread Eron Cohen

Hi,

There are a few of us with the same problem.  The
actual issue is to do with specifying FEDEX as a
shipper.  If you remove FEDEX then it should start
working again.  You might want to contact the kind
Gent at Desert Raven that wrote the tag.  He said he
would look into the problem.

Regards,

Eron

-Original Message-
From: Dave Hannum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 11:36 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Anybody know anything about Intershipper?


It appears that since Jan, 30, the Intershipper
interface on one of my sites
has not been working.  Anybody else having a problem? 
Is Intershipper the
problem or should I be looking at our end?

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multiple queries tie up web server

2001-02-05 Thread Ricq Pattay

I have a CF page that contains approx 7500 queries against an Oracle
database via an Apache web server. Of course this page takes a while to load
(3 minutes or so), but my user is ok with that because she does so only a
handful of times per day.

What is not ok is that, while this page is loading, all other users of any
CF app on that web server cannot access any page -- they will receive
Apache's "server is too busy to handle request" error message. Any ideas on
how to work around this? Reducing the number of queries from 7500 isn't
really an option, unfortunately.


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University of Minnesota - Twin Cities


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3-dimensional array

2001-02-05 Thread Ryan Farrell

How do I  a 3-dimensional array?

Thanks,

Ryan


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High Traffic graphing

2001-02-05 Thread Alan H Koenig

I am developing a site where there will be a lot of dynamic graphing.  I am
expecting approximately 500 concurrent users on the site.  Most of them will
be doing the graphing application that I am creating.  I am thinking of
using Crystal Reports 8 with is web component for this.  I was wondering if
anyone out there had any experience with this?  I am also wondering if
Crystal Reports will be able to handle this amount of traffic?  I am also
wondering if there is something out there that can do graphed reporting that
is not as expensive as the Macromedia Generator.
Any comments are welcome.

Alan Koenig

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of the train station.  He quickly proceeded to take the other side off and
threw it on the platform as the train left the station.  His disciple asked,
“Master what are you doing?”  Ghandi’s reply was “One side of my sandal will
be of no use to the soul who finds it, so I am giving him the
other.” --
In love and Friendship,
Alan Koenig



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RE: Problems with IsAuthorized

2001-02-05 Thread Thomas Chiverton

IsProtected("UserObject","display","execute")
Returns 'No', so I guess that means there is something wrong with my
policies ? (This is with my user added back into the userlist for that
policy.

-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailssto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 4:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Problems with IsAuthorized


Default behaviour for non existant obs/policies will be true for
IsAuthorized.
As for your userobject, display, try IsProtected() on it and see if it's
returning true.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 11:14 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Problems with IsAuthorized
>
>
> Attached is a gif that hopefully explains the policy I have in place, a
> userobject called display, that only has me listed, and I have no execute
> permission for (ie, there are no Resource Rules for the policy 'Default',
> the only policy in the PS_Private context, which only has enable for
> resource types:user object ticked)
>
> I'm using a Application.cfm to do auth. against our NT domain, which works
> fine, but when I try to use:
> 
> Auth1: #IsAuthenticated()#
> Auth2:  IsAuthorized("UserObject","display","execute")>YESNO
> 
> I always get the result "Auth1: Yes Auth2: Yes", even if I change
> display to
> 'sadfasfaf' and execute to 'werqwrq', which is not the behaviour
> I expect -
> surly for non existant objects it should give 'NO', and anyways, I'm not
> authorised to execute that object, so it should be 'NO' in any case ?
>
> Its CF 4.5.1 on NT/IIS
>
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Break in attempts?

2001-02-05 Thread Jon Gage

We've noticed the following error in our logs recurring recently:

"Error","TID=618","02/02/01","22:04:23","24.114.162.188","","Invalid Request
of CFDOCS\EXAMPLEAPP\EMAIL\APPLICATION.CFM File You have requested a
template with the name APPLICATION.CFM or ONREQUESTEND.CFM. These file names
are reserved by the ColdFusion engine for the specification of application
level settings and therefore cannot be directly requested from a web
client.If you are creating a template which is intended for direct access by
end users you should use a name other than APPLICATION.CFM or
ONREQUESTEND.CFM."

I remember reading about the above applications allowing hackers to change
data sources and such.  Does anybody have any more information?  Or perhaps
some remedies?

Cheers,
Jon


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why use 3rd dimensional array???

2001-02-05 Thread Phoeun Pha

how would one use a third dimensional array?  it's hard for me to
conceptualize a practical use for it!

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RE: multiple queries tie up web server

2001-02-05 Thread Robert Everland

Why not try stored procedures so that CF isn't the one running the queries.
If you do it that way, Oracle will do all the work while CF waits for the
results. I think what is happening is the webserver is just getting bulked
down.

Robert Everland III
Web Developer
Dixon Ticonderoga


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From: Ricq Pattay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 12:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: multiple queries tie up web server


I have a CF page that contains approx 7500 queries against an Oracle
database via an Apache web server. Of course this page takes a while to load
(3 minutes or so), but my user is ok with that because she does so only a
handful of times per day.

What is not ok is that, while this page is loading, all other users of any
CF app on that web server cannot access any page -- they will receive
Apache's "server is too busy to handle request" error message. Any ideas on
how to work around this? Reducing the number of queries from 7500 isn't
really an option, unfortunately.


Ricq Pattay ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
College of Veterinary Medicine
University of Minnesota - Twin Cities
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RE: 3-dimensional array

2001-02-05 Thread Phoeun Pha






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Subject: 3-dimensional array


How do I  a 3-dimensional array?

Thanks,

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Re: multiple queries tie up web server

2001-02-05 Thread Kevin Schmidt

Is caching the query an option?  If so you could set up a task that runs the
query at like 6 in the morning or earlier when fewer people will be on the
site and cache it for 24 hours.  However if she is looking for updates
throughout the day she won't see any without the 3 minute wait.

Kevin
- Original Message -
From: "Ricq Pattay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 11:05 AM
Subject: multiple queries tie up web server


> I have a CF page that contains approx 7500 queries against an Oracle
> database via an Apache web server. Of course this page takes a while to
load
> (3 minutes or so), but my user is ok with that because she does so only a
> handful of times per day.
>
> What is not ok is that, while this page is loading, all other users of any
> CF app on that web server cannot access any page -- they will receive
> Apache's "server is too busy to handle request" error message. Any ideas
on
> how to work around this? Reducing the number of queries from 7500 isn't
> really an option, unfortunately.
>
>
> Ricq Pattay ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> College of Veterinary Medicine
> University of Minnesota - Twin Cities
>
>
>
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Re: 3-dimensional array

2001-02-05 Thread Kevin Schmidt



Kevin
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Subject: 3-dimensional array


> How do I  a 3-dimensional array?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ryan
>
>
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RE: Problems with IsAuthorized

2001-02-05 Thread Raymond Camden

I would guess so. Go into your CFAdmin and check stuff out. Tell us what you
see.

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>
>
> IsProtected("UserObject","display","execute")
> Returns 'No', so I guess that means there is something wrong with my
> policies ? (This is with my user added back into the userlist for that
> policy.
>
> -Original Message-
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RE: Break in attempts?

2001-02-05 Thread Duane Boudreau

Its probably just someone checking to see if you are running ColdFusion. I
do that occasionally if I am not sure if a site is being served by
ColdFusion.

Duane

-Original Message-
From: Jon Gage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Break in attempts?


We've noticed the following error in our logs recurring recently:

"Error","TID=618","02/02/01","22:04:23","24.114.162.188","","Invalid Request
of CFDOCS\EXAMPLEAPP\EMAIL\APPLICATION.CFM File You have requested a
template with the name APPLICATION.CFM or ONREQUESTEND.CFM. These file names
are reserved by the ColdFusion engine for the specification of application
level settings and therefore cannot be directly requested from a web
client.If you are creating a template which is intended for direct access by
end users you should use a name other than APPLICATION.CFM or
ONREQUESTEND.CFM."

I remember reading about the above applications allowing hackers to change
data sources and such.  Does anybody have any more information?  Or perhaps
some remedies?

Cheers,
Jon
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RE: CF Server Feedback

2001-02-05 Thread Dylan Bromby

why don't you use IIS? it's free. Website from O'Reilly costs like $1K or
more. unless you already own it...

and if you're only doing 5,000 pages a day, you don't need 2 servers if
you're cramped for cash.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 9:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF Server Feedback



Does anybody have any input for a cheap CF Server, I have a limited Budget?
What kind a system would be the best(cheapest) way to suite my needs. I am a
small time developer, most of my clients have low traffic at this point, my
highest trafficed client is getting about 5,000 page views a day. I am
pretty new to Web Servers and Networking as well. I will be hosting less
then 50 accounts for know.

Here's what I have been looking at:

-512K DSL Connection
-Linksys DSL Router

Server 1
-CF Professional (Entriprise pushes me out of my budget)
-Windows 2000
-O'Reilly Website
-Media House Live Stats

Server 2
-SQL Server
-IpSwitch I-Mail
-Name Server

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Jason Larson
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RE: multiple queries tie up web server

2001-02-05 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP

> I have a CF page that contains approx 7500 queries against an Oracle
> database via an Apache web server. Of course this page takes a
> while to load
> (3 minutes or so), but my user is ok with that because she does so only a
> handful of times per day.
>
> What is not ok is that, while this page is loading, all other users of any
> CF app on that web server cannot access any page -- they will receive
> Apache's "server is too busy to handle request" error message.
> Any ideas on
> how to work around this? Reducing the number of queries from 7500 isn't
> really an option, unfortunately.

I don't have Oracle experience, so I'm going from SQL Server experience...

The problem is that it's speaking to the Oracle server 7,500 times on the
one template, which means that it's handing the maximum queries to the
server in one go, and then waiting for the next queries

Can't you put the queries into Stored Procedures in blocks and get it to run
those (thus returning multiple queries in one handle), which will be faster
talking to the database

Also, you might want to try using larger queries, and then using CF to break
them up (i.e. with Joins or Unions)

Is the result something that NEEDS to be done 2-3 times a day, or if it's a
report, why can't it be run at slow times, and then email the result to the
client... we do that with reports that take a long time to build, thus
lessening the strain during the busy periods

Philip Arnold
Director
Certified ColdFusion Developer
ASP Multimedia Limited
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RE: 3-dimensional array

2001-02-05 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP

> How do I  a 3-dimensional array?

Why not use Structures within the array?

That way you get get away with a 2D array with a structure in each

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RE: Break in attempts?

2001-02-05 Thread Dave Watts

> We've noticed the following error in our logs recurring recently:
> 
> "Error","TID=618","02/02/01","22:04:23","24.114.162.188","",
> "Invalid Request of CFDOCS\EXAMPLEAPP\EMAIL\APPLICATION.CFM 
> File You have requested a template with the name APPLICATION.CFM 
> or ONREQUESTEND.CFM. These file names are reserved by the 
> ColdFusion engine for the specification of application level 
> settings and therefore cannot be directly requested from a web
> client.If you are creating a template which is intended for 
> direct access by end users you should use a name other than 
> APPLICATION.CFM or ONREQUESTEND.CFM."
> 
> I remember reading about the above applications allowing 
> hackers to change data sources and such. Does anybody have 
> any more information? Or perhaps some remedies?

If your server is publicly available, you shouldn't have a CFDOCS directory,
as you shouldn't have installed documentation and examples. If you do have
those on there, remove them immediately. While you're at it, if you're
running IIS, make sure you don't have sample code, unnecessary ISAPI
extensions, etc. for that. As for people accessing application.cfm and
onrequestend.cfm directly, there isn't a huge amount of harm, as CF will
return the message you've noticed in your logs, rather than executing any
code.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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CFStudio 4.5.2 issues

2001-02-05 Thread Robert Everland

I will be posting this here and also to allaire forums. I have been
using stinking studio forever, I updated to 4.5 because it had more
features, but it seems the same bugs I had from the beginning that bugged me
are still there. The bug where you are editing a file in amd it doesn't show
the x next to the name to show that it has been changed. And now a new
little bug where i can't turn off the design mode from telling me I could
screw up the page by looking at it there. I hope allaire monitors this list
to see my complaint. I usually try not to complain, but this is a $200 tool,
get some programmers to fix this bugs that everyone complains about.

Robert Everland III
Web Developer
Dixon Ticonderoga

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RE: multiple queries tie up web server

2001-02-05 Thread Adrian Cesana

7500 Queries? holly molly batman.  Ok, just guessing but it sounds like
your generating a report to meHere is what I would look at:

1) Apache (not familiar with Apache) must have some limit being set to the
number of concurrent process's, and it it not queuing them or they are
timing out, perhaps increase this setting.

2) Change the template so it calls another process (Schedule or batch)
execute's the monster template in batch mode (no webserver involved), which
writes the output to a static file or emails it to the user.  Then the user
can check the static file after a few minutes or wait for an email.  There
is a nice tag CF_FileWriteText that you can wrap around your code that
nicely output's your html or whatever you need to output.

Hope it helps...

-Adrian



-Original Message-
From: Ricq Pattay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

I have a CF page that contains approx 7500 queries against an Oracle
database via an Apache web server. Of course this page takes a while to load
(3 minutes or so), but my user is ok with that because she does so only a
handful of times per day.

What is not ok is that, while this page is loading, all other users of any
CF app on that web server cannot access any page -- they will receive
Apache's "server is too busy to handle request" error message. Any ideas on
how to work around this? Reducing the number of queries from 7500 isn't
really an option, unfortunately.



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RE: Break in attempts?

2001-02-05 Thread Christopher Olive, CIO

actually, ran into that error message when i named one of my templated
MemberApplication.cfm.

chris olive, cio
cresco technologies
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-Original Message-
From: Jon Gage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Break in attempts?


We've noticed the following error in our logs recurring recently:

"Error","TID=618","02/02/01","22:04:23","24.114.162.188","","Invalid Request
of CFDOCS\EXAMPLEAPP\EMAIL\APPLICATION.CFM File You have requested a
template with the name APPLICATION.CFM or ONREQUESTEND.CFM. These file names
are reserved by the ColdFusion engine for the specification of application
level settings and therefore cannot be directly requested from a web
client.If you are creating a template which is intended for direct access by
end users you should use a name other than APPLICATION.CFM or
ONREQUESTEND.CFM."

I remember reading about the above applications allowing hackers to change
data sources and such.  Does anybody have any more information?  Or perhaps
some remedies?

Cheers,
Jon
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RE: CF Server Feedback

2001-02-05 Thread Jason Larson

Dylan,

Do you think the DSL will be able to handle this (lets say 50 sites with
5,000 page views a day per site), or should I look at a T1 line.

Thanks for your response.
Jason Larson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Dylan Bromby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 11:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Server Feedback


why don't you use IIS? it's free. Website from O'Reilly costs like $1K or
more. unless you already own it...

and if you're only doing 5,000 pages a day, you don't need 2 servers if
you're cramped for cash.

-Original Message-
From: Jason Larson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 9:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF Server Feedback



Does anybody have any input for a cheap CF Server, I have a limited Budget?
What kind a system would be the best(cheapest) way to suite my needs. I am a
small time developer, most of my clients have low traffic at this point, my
highest trafficed client is getting about 5,000 page views a day. I am
pretty new to Web Servers and Networking as well. I will be hosting less
then 50 accounts for know.

Here's what I have been looking at:

-512K DSL Connection
-Linksys DSL Router

Server 1
-CF Professional (Entriprise pushes me out of my budget)
-Windows 2000
-O'Reilly Website
-Media House Live Stats

Server 2
-SQL Server
-IpSwitch I-Mail
-Name Server

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Jason Larson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: multiple queries tie up web server

2001-02-05 Thread Edward Smith

We've had problems with Oracle drivers being single threaded-like.  In
other words, if a long running query is just waiting out there, other
requests to that datasource have to wait.

What version of CF and what oracle drivers are you using?

Ricq Pattay wrote:
> 
> I have a CF page that contains approx 7500 queries against an Oracle
> database via an Apache web server. Of course this page takes a while to load
> (3 minutes or so), but my user is ok with that because she does so only a
> handful of times per day.
> 
> What is not ok is that, while this page is loading, all other users of any
> CF app on that web server cannot access any page -- they will receive
> Apache's "server is too busy to handle request" error message. Any ideas on
> how to work around this? Reducing the number of queries from 7500 isn't
> really an option, unfortunately.
> 
> Ricq Pattay ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> College of Veterinary Medicine
> University of Minnesota - Twin Cities
> 
>
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Re: CF Server Feedback

2001-02-05 Thread Edward Smith

Why not use Linux, Apache and PostgreSQL.  You'll save nearly $10G that
way.  Then you can get Enterprise, and use the sandbox security.  Geez,
you could get 2 of them for redundancy.

Is there a specific reason you need to use NT?

Dylan Bromby wrote:
> 
> why don't you use IIS? it's free. Website from O'Reilly costs like $1K or
> more. unless you already own it...
> 
> and if you're only doing 5,000 pages a day, you don't need 2 servers if
> you're cramped for cash.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Larson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 9:03 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: CF Server Feedback
> 
> Does anybody have any input for a cheap CF Server, I have a limited Budget?
> What kind a system would be the best(cheapest) way to suite my needs. I am a
> small time developer, most of my clients have low traffic at this point, my
> highest trafficed client is getting about 5,000 page views a day. I am
> pretty new to Web Servers and Networking as well. I will be hosting less
> then 50 accounts for know.
> 
> Here's what I have been looking at:
> 
> -512K DSL Connection
> -Linksys DSL Router
> 
> Server 1
> -CF Professional (Entriprise pushes me out of my budget)
> -Windows 2000
> -O'Reilly Website
> -Media House Live Stats
> 
> Server 2
> -SQL Server
> -IpSwitch I-Mail
> -Name Server
> 
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Jason Larson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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Re: why use 3rd dimensional array???

2001-02-05 Thread Eric Dawson

to hold 3 dimensional data. sorry.

Simple example. some kind of cubic sample. like say air temperature in a 
room for each specific cubic foot. The index is h,w,l and the value 
corresponds to the appropriate cube in the room.

I can get a better, more practival example if you like.

E

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Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 12:35:38 -0600

how would one use a third dimensional array?  it's hard for me to
conceptualize a practical use for it!
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Re: CF Server Feedback

2001-02-05 Thread zac

Dylan Bromby wrote:

> why don't you use IIS? it's free.

So is Apache and it doesn't come with arbitrary licence limitations that are
designed to get you to buy their "server" OS.
 
> and if you're only doing 5,000 pages a day, you don't need 2 servers if
> you're cramped for cash.

Or you could use mySQL and myODBC instead of SQL Server and save yourself
enough money for the second server.

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RE: CF Server Feedback

2001-02-05 Thread Jason Larson

I have not worked with Linux, I do have some limited experience with NT
though. I understand what you are saying and I am thinking of approaching
this with a Linux server, though there would be a higher learning curve for
me.

Thanks for your response

Jason Larson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Edward Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 12:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Server Feedback


Why not use Linux, Apache and PostgreSQL.  You'll save nearly $10G that
way.  Then you can get Enterprise, and use the sandbox security.  Geez,
you could get 2 of them for redundancy.

Is there a specific reason you need to use NT?

Dylan Bromby wrote:
>
> why don't you use IIS? it's free. Website from O'Reilly costs like $1K or
> more. unless you already own it...
>
> and if you're only doing 5,000 pages a day, you don't need 2 servers if
> you're cramped for cash.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Larson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 9:03 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: CF Server Feedback
>
> Does anybody have any input for a cheap CF Server, I have a limited
Budget?
> What kind a system would be the best(cheapest) way to suite my needs. I am
a
> small time developer, most of my clients have low traffic at this point,
my
> highest trafficed client is getting about 5,000 page views a day. I am
> pretty new to Web Servers and Networking as well. I will be hosting less
> then 50 accounts for know.
>
> Here's what I have been looking at:
>
> -512K DSL Connection
> -Linksys DSL Router
>
> Server 1
> -CF Professional (Entriprise pushes me out of my budget)
> -Windows 2000
> -O'Reilly Website
> -Media House Live Stats
>
> Server 2
> -SQL Server
> -IpSwitch I-Mail
> -Name Server
>
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Jason Larson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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RE: Break in attempts?

2001-02-05 Thread JustinMacCarthy

On a related note, I once came across a server in which the cf developers
had created the app in such a manner that all include code where in .inc
files.
You code just type www.server.com/login.inc and download the code. Not a
good idea.
Remember, just because you are "including" a file, other people might not .

Justin

>those on there, remove them immediately. While you're at it, if you're
>running IIS, make sure you don't have sample code, unnecessary ISAPI
>extensions, etc. for that. As for people accessing application.cfm and
>onrequestend.cfm directly, there isn't a huge amount of harm, as CF will
>return the message you've noticed in your logs, rather than executing any
>code.
>
>Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>http://www.figleaf.com/
>voice: (202) 797-5496
>fax: (202) 797-5444
>


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RE: CF Server Feedback

2001-02-05 Thread Dylan Bromby

depends. is it a personal or business DSL account according to the provider?
you want to check the CIR (committed information rate) from your provider
for both types of connections.


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From: Jason Larson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 11:11 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Server Feedback


Dylan,

Do you think the DSL will be able to handle this (lets say 50 sites with
5,000 page views a day per site), or should I look at a T1 line.

Thanks for your response.
Jason Larson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Dylan Bromby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 11:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Server Feedback


why don't you use IIS? it's free. Website from O'Reilly costs like $1K or
more. unless you already own it...

and if you're only doing 5,000 pages a day, you don't need 2 servers if
you're cramped for cash.

-Original Message-
From: Jason Larson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 9:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF Server Feedback



Does anybody have any input for a cheap CF Server, I have a limited Budget?
What kind a system would be the best(cheapest) way to suite my needs. I am a
small time developer, most of my clients have low traffic at this point, my
highest trafficed client is getting about 5,000 page views a day. I am
pretty new to Web Servers and Networking as well. I will be hosting less
then 50 accounts for know.

Here's what I have been looking at:

-512K DSL Connection
-Linksys DSL Router

Server 1
-CF Professional (Entriprise pushes me out of my budget)
-Windows 2000
-O'Reilly Website
-Media House Live Stats

Server 2
-SQL Server
-IpSwitch I-Mail
-Name Server

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Jason Larson
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Re: studio 4.5.2

2001-02-05 Thread Chris Norloff

Well, I like Studio 4.5.1, and it's works well for me.  I tried 4.5.2 and hated all 
the ftp-connectivity bugs (winsock errors, etc.).  Twice it erased a file when trying 
to save my work to an FTP-connected server.  So I went back to 4.5.1 and it works fine.

sigh

Chris Norloff

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Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 13:58:23 -0600

>All right, so long ago, I upgraded to studio 4.5, hated it, and went back to
>4.0. Now, all I've heard is good things about 4.5.2, so I installed 4.5
>again and upgraded to 4.5.2.
>
>Now, I keep getting low resource warnings (which was not happening with 4.0)
>AND when I browse a directory that has sub-directories, I have to click the
>folder icon of subdirectory and then click the icon of the directory before
>I can see files that aren't in one of the sub-folders.
>
>Am I the only one that this is happening to? Or are these common bugs and I
>should just resign myself to the idea that I'm never going to get past 4.0.
>
>-d
>
>
>
>
>Deanna Schneider
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RE: 3-dimensional array

2001-02-05 Thread Jeremy Allen

Think of it as a 3 dimensional box. 
   +-+
  /  /|
 /  / | 
+--+  |
|  |  |
|  |  |
|  | /
+--+/

Hehe

Okay here is a example... not that you 
would but you could.

If you think of a query as a two dimesonal array.

Query1(z)
Row1(y)
Col1(x)
Col2
Col3
Col4
Col5
Col6
Row2
Col1
Col2
Col3
Col4
Col5
Col6
Query2
Row1
Col1
Col2
Col3
Col4
Col5
Col6
Row2
Col1
Col2
Col3
Col4
Col5
Col6

As an array
arrJunk[1][1] = Row one column one
arrJunk[2][3] = Row two column three.. etc. etc.

Now say you want this single array to represent multiple
queries at once.

so arrJunk[1][2][4] = Query1, Row2, Column4
or arrJunk[2][2][4] = Query2, Row2, Column4

Now for say a four dimensional array... hehehe stay with me!!
Time: 8:00pm(eeek)
Query1(z)
Row1(y)
Col1(x)
Col2
Col3
Col4
Col5
Col6
Row2
Col1
Col2
Col3
Col4
Col5
Col6
Query2
Row1
Col1
Col2
Col3
Col4
Col5
Col6
Row2
Col1
Col2
Col3
Col4
Col5
Col6
Time: 9:00pm
Query1
Row1
Col1
Col2
Col3
Col4
Col5
Col6
Row2
Col1
Col2
Col3
Col4
Col5
Col6
Query2
Row1
Col1
Col2
Col3
Col4
Col5
Col6
Row2
Col1
Col2
Col3
Col4
Col5
Col6
So (this would be a bad way to represent your data...
but if you wanted too... you could

Okay, so say you wanted 9pm Query2 Row2 Col5

arrJunk[2][2][2][5] = 9pm, query2, row2, column5

Hehe, so yes the practical applications of this kind
of thing are few and far between but there are some very 
valid representations such as mapping out objects
in 3D space (of course you wouldnt really use an
array then.. but anyways) it does have
uses... but if you end up with a 3D array you most
likely do not need it.

Anyhow... I hope I did not hurt anyones head.

Jeremy Allen
elliptIQ Inc.



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>
>How do I  a 3-dimensional array?
>
>Thanks,
>
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RE: why use 3rd dimensional array???

2001-02-05 Thread Phoeun Pha

well yeah i can see how it can be used for math stuff.  but i mean like a
real situation


-Original Message-
From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: why use 3rd dimensional array???


to hold 3 dimensional data. sorry.

Simple example. some kind of cubic sample. like say air temperature in a 
room for each specific cubic foot. The index is h,w,l and the value 
corresponds to the appropriate cube in the room.

I can get a better, more practival example if you like.

E

From: Phoeun Pha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: why use 3rd dimensional array???
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 12:35:38 -0600

how would one use a third dimensional array?  it's hard for me to
conceptualize a practical use for it!
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OT:Can you change "Browse..." on a File form element?

2001-02-05 Thread JMilks

Hi,
Bilingual app, client doesn't want to see "Browse..." on a file form
element. Any way to do that short of building one from a textbox and button?

Jim

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Re: why use 3rd dimensional array???

2001-02-05 Thread Kevin Schmidt

Since when was math stuff not a real situation
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To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:36 PM
Subject: RE: why use 3rd dimensional array???


> well yeah i can see how it can be used for math stuff.  but i mean like a
> real situation
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:17 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: why use 3rd dimensional array???
>
>
> to hold 3 dimensional data. sorry.
>
> Simple example. some kind of cubic sample. like say air temperature in a
> room for each specific cubic foot. The index is h,w,l and the value
> corresponds to the appropriate cube in the room.
>
> I can get a better, more practival example if you like.
>
> E
>
> From: Phoeun Pha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: why use 3rd dimensional array???
> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 12:35:38 -0600
>
> how would one use a third dimensional array?  it's hard for me to
> conceptualize a practical use for it!
>
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RE: multiple queries tie up web server

2001-02-05 Thread Perez, Bismark

Hey there,

is these a query that needs to run interactive? one way that you can
approach this is to create a file that will contain all the fields (data)
that is been pulled in by all these queries, yes, it will be a BIG file, but
if you have the space on the server sometimes that is the best approach,
then you can schedule this to be run by the SQL server... 

Bismarck Perez


-Original Message-
From: Ricq Pattay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 12:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: multiple queries tie up web server


I have a CF page that contains approx 7500 queries against an Oracle
database via an Apache web server. Of course this page takes a while to load
(3 minutes or so), but my user is ok with that because she does so only a
handful of times per day.

What is not ok is that, while this page is loading, all other users of any
CF app on that web server cannot access any page -- they will receive
Apache's "server is too busy to handle request" error message. Any ideas on
how to work around this? Reducing the number of queries from 7500 isn't
really an option, unfortunately.


Ricq Pattay ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
College of Veterinary Medicine
University of Minnesota - Twin Cities
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RE: Syntax for binding a query?

2001-02-05 Thread Terri Stocke




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From: "DeVoil, Nick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 17:04:56 -

Yes, that sounds like a good idea.

I don't think CFQUERYPARAM would have helped you with
performance anyway. It just validates the parameters
you pass to the stored procedure.

--I think you're thinking of CFPROCPARAM. CF*QUERY*PARAM enables the use of 
bind variables in a query (according to the Allaire article titled 
"CFQUERYPARAM and Oracle Databases" by Justin Fidler--it's actually quite a 
good article. Someone on another list pointed it out to me this morning.)---

I'm guessing here but are you actually looking for the
syntax for passing parameters to an Oracle stored procedure?

--Nope. Though I do appreciate the example. I've had my share of passing the 
params to Oracle, and it's not always easy :)) Extra examples are always 
appreciated!--

Thanks for the help! I think we're just going to push for the upgrade to 4.5 
(with a subscription, of course, with 5.0 and Neo on the horizon ;)

Terri
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RE: why use 3rd dimensional array???

2001-02-05 Thread Ryan Farrell

well, I've figured another way around this problem, but I'd still like
to know how to do this.

Sorry I was not more specific in my question.  I know how to declare the
array, but how do I load data into all 3 dimensions?

-Original Message-
From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: why use 3rd dimensional array???


well yeah i can see how it can be used for math stuff.  but i mean like
a
real situation


-Original Message-
From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: why use 3rd dimensional array???


to hold 3 dimensional data. sorry.

Simple example. some kind of cubic sample. like say air temperature in a
room for each specific cubic foot. The index is h,w,l and the value 
corresponds to the appropriate cube in the room.

I can get a better, more practival example if you like.

E

From: Phoeun Pha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: why use 3rd dimensional array???
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 12:35:38 -0600

how would one use a third dimensional array?  it's hard for me to
conceptualize a practical use for it!
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RE: why use 3rd dimensional array???

2001-02-05 Thread Caulfield, Michael

I've used 3 dimensional arrays to produce mini-mystery games where the x,y
was the location and z was time.

Basically the x,y defaults to a standard "room picture clip" if n[x][y][z]
was empty, but you can add an "event" to any room by pointing n[x][y][z] at
an animation or movie file.

then you let the person wander, where north is x-1, south x+1, west y-1, and
east y+1, and every move increments z by 1.

Admittedly really primitive, but it worked for a simple "TESOL through
gaming" demo I did back in my grad school days in VB.

Mike.

-Original Message-
From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: why use 3rd dimensional array???


well yeah i can see how it can be used for math stuff.  but i mean like a
real situation


-Original Message-
From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: why use 3rd dimensional array???


to hold 3 dimensional data. sorry.

Simple example. some kind of cubic sample. like say air temperature in a 
room for each specific cubic foot. The index is h,w,l and the value 
corresponds to the appropriate cube in the room.

I can get a better, more practival example if you like.

E

From: Phoeun Pha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: why use 3rd dimensional array???
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 12:35:38 -0600

how would one use a third dimensional array?  it's hard for me to
conceptualize a practical use for it!
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RE: Can you change "Browse..." on a File form element?

2001-02-05 Thread Cameron Childress

Have you tested to see if it's controlled by the language version of the
user's Browser/OS?  May not be an issue for speakers of other languages as
long as they have a native language install of their Browser/OS.

-Cameron


Cameron Childress
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>
>
> Hi,
> Bilingual app, client doesn't want to see "Browse..." on a file form
> element. Any way to do that short of building one from a textbox
> and button?
>
> Jim
>
>
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Re: why use 3rd dimensional array???

2001-02-05 Thread Sean Renet

LOL
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To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 11:36 AM
Subject: RE: why use 3rd dimensional array???


> well yeah i can see how it can be used for math stuff.  but i mean like a
> real situation
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:17 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: why use 3rd dimensional array???
>
>
> to hold 3 dimensional data. sorry.
>
> Simple example. some kind of cubic sample. like say air temperature in a
> room for each specific cubic foot. The index is h,w,l and the value
> corresponds to the appropriate cube in the room.
>
> I can get a better, more practival example if you like.
>
> E
>
> From: Phoeun Pha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: why use 3rd dimensional array???
> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 12:35:38 -0600
>
> how would one use a third dimensional array?  it's hard for me to
> conceptualize a practical use for it!
>
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RE: why use 3rd dimensional array???

2001-02-05 Thread Richard Banks

Math is fun "stuff" :)

I think the thread should be killed now.
Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 3:57 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: why use 3rd dimensional array???


Since when was math stuff not a real situation
- Original Message -
From: "Phoeun Pha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:36 PM
Subject: RE: why use 3rd dimensional array???


> well yeah i can see how it can be used for math stuff.  but i mean like a
> real situation
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:17 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: why use 3rd dimensional array???
>
>
> to hold 3 dimensional data. sorry.
>
> Simple example. some kind of cubic sample. like say air temperature in a
> room for each specific cubic foot. The index is h,w,l and the value
> corresponds to the appropriate cube in the room.
>
> I can get a better, more practival example if you like.
>
> E
>
> From: Phoeun Pha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: why use 3rd dimensional array???
> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 12:35:38 -0600
>
> how would one use a third dimensional array?  it's hard for me to
> conceptualize a practical use for it!
>
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Re: multiple queries tie up web server

2001-02-05 Thread Ricq Pattay

Thanks for the responses so far. More info:

We're running CF Server 4.51 Enterprise, with the Oracle 7.3 native drivers.
And *all* requests to the web server are refused, not just those to the same
datasource. So this sounds more like a web server problem (as Robert said).

The page in question isn't a report, but a dynamic grid of enrollment counts
for multiple courses held at multiple times. Each course/time combination
has 4 queries associated with it, 3 of which are "select count(user_id)..."
Each course/time intersection has javascript pop-up windows associated with
it so my user can add/drop/move students to/from other intersections on the
schedule grid.

I can't really cache the query because there's 7500 of them! :-)

I don't know enough yet about writing stored procedures to investigate this
route. Maybe this is a good time to learn? But would using SP's even help if
there are so many little queries?



- Original Message -
From: "Edward Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: multiple queries tie up web server


> We've had problems with Oracle drivers being single threaded-like.  In
> other words, if a long running query is just waiting out there, other
> requests to that datasource have to wait.
>
> What version of CF and what oracle drivers are you using?
>
> Ricq Pattay wrote:
> >
> > I have a CF page that contains approx 7500 queries against an Oracle
> > database via an Apache web server. Of course this page takes a while to
load
> > (3 minutes or so), but my user is ok with that because she does so only
a
> > handful of times per day.
> >
> > What is not ok is that, while this page is loading, all other users of
any
> > CF app on that web server cannot access any page -- they will receive
> > Apache's "server is too busy to handle request" error message. Any ideas
on
> > how to work around this? Reducing the number of queries from 7500 isn't
> > really an option, unfortunately.
> >
> > Ricq Pattay ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > College of Veterinary Medicine
> > University of Minnesota - Twin Cities
> >
> >
>
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Got PDFlib?

2001-02-05 Thread Daye, Marianne

I'm considering using PDFlib to generate PDF files on the fly, and I was
wondering if anyone has some experience to share.  We can't use existing pdf
templates because the number of fields varies, and it's my understanding
that PDFlib allows you to create the PDF dynamically on the server.

Originally we were using Crystal Reports and CFX_CRWTOPDF which no longer
works, and I haven't been able to find anything to replace it that
combination.  Generating the PDF files on the server is the best alternative
I've been able to come up with.  Got better ones?

Marianne Daye   Center for Engineering and
Environmental Technology
Programmer/Analyst  Research Triangle Institute
Information Delivery Systems3040 Cornwallis Rd.
http://ids.rti.org  Research Triangle
Park, NC  27709
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RE: Can you change "Browse..." on a File form element?

2001-02-05 Thread JMilks

Hmm...good idea. Problem is, most people here use english windows/browser,
but expect fully functional on-the-fly french/english apps. Be happy that
the US only has one official language...

Jim

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 3:12 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Can you change "Browse..." on a File form element?


Have you tested to see if it's controlled by the language version of the
user's Browser/OS?  May not be an issue for speakers of other languages as
long as they have a native language install of their Browser/OS.

-Cameron


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f.770.460.0963

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 2:53 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: OT:Can you change "Browse..." on a File form element?
>
>
> Hi,
> Bilingual app, client doesn't want to see "Browse..." on a file form
> element. Any way to do that short of building one from a textbox
> and button?
>
> Jim
>
>
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CF and Cobalt Server

2001-02-05 Thread Jason Larson


Has anybody heard of anyone running CF Server on a Cobalt RAQ system. If so,
is there something that I should worry about putting CF on A Cobalt RAQ
system?

Thanks
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RE: Got PDFlib?

2001-02-05 Thread Simon Horwith

I've had great luck and experiences doing this with activepdf server.  Check
out www.activepdf.com for details about their various servers and products
(you're probably interested in the activepdf server, and possibly webgrabber
or the activepdf toolkit).

Good Luck!!

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-Original Message-
From: Daye, Marianne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 3:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Got PDFlib?


I'm considering using PDFlib to generate PDF files on the fly, and I was
wondering if anyone has some experience to share.  We can't use existing pdf
templates because the number of fields varies, and it's my understanding
that PDFlib allows you to create the PDF dynamically on the server.

Originally we were using Crystal Reports and CFX_CRWTOPDF which no longer
works, and I haven't been able to find anything to replace it that
combination.  Generating the PDF files on the server is the best alternative
I've been able to come up with.  Got better ones?

Marianne Daye   Center for Engineering and
Environmental Technology
Programmer/Analyst  Research Triangle Institute
Information Delivery Systems3040 Cornwallis Rd.
http://ids.rti.org  Research Triangle
Park, NC  27709
Ph: (919) 541-8031, Fax: (919) 541-6936 http://www.rti.org
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ADO and CF

2001-02-05 Thread Clint Tredway

Anyone had any luck using ADO with CF? I want to use it but I hear CF and ADO don't 
like to play nice.. any thoughts are appreciated...

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RE: CF Server Feedback

2001-02-05 Thread JayB

At 12:10 PM 2/5/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>Dylan,
>
>Do you think the DSL will be able to handle this (lets say 50 sites with
>5,000 page views a day per site), or should I look at a T1 line.



 From IIS 5.0 chapter on Capacity planning.

based on 5 kb page size

640 kpbs dsl connection = almost 11 pages sent/sec.
T1 - 1.536 Mbps = 26 pages sent/sec.

T3 - 44.736 Mbps = 760

Your specs are calling for about 10,000 views per hour which work out to 
173 views per second.

To guarantee no bottle necks at full capacity you'd probably need a 
T3especially since most pages are over 5 kb...and that doesn't include 
graphics. 


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RE: multiple queries tie up web server

2001-02-05 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP

> The page in question isn't a report, but a dynamic grid of
> enrollment counts
> for multiple courses held at multiple times. Each course/time combination
> has 4 queries associated with it, 3 of which are "select
> count(user_id)..."
> Each course/time intersection has javascript pop-up windows
> associated with
> it so my user can add/drop/move students to/from other
> intersections on the schedule grid.

Couldn't resist this... Oh look, a prime candidate for query a query
functionality in CF5

> We're running CF Server 4.51 Enterprise, with the Oracle 7.3
> native drivers.
> And *all* requests to the web server are refused, not just those
> to the same
> datasource. So this sounds more like a web server problem (as
> Robert said).

Down to the real point though - can you watch the server, have a PerfMon and
TaskMgr running and then run the template?
That way you can see what requests are hitting the webserver, CF and
database, and how much processor is tied up

Another question - which webserver?

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RE: ADO and CF

2001-02-05 Thread Dylan Bromby

i've done a few things in ADO with CF. i built an interface to manage
hundreds of sites in IIS through CF using ADO/ADSI. however, the
applications i worked on were eventually converted to VB and they ran MUCH
faster.

-Original Message-
From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 12:43 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: ADO and CF


Anyone had any luck using ADO with CF? I want to use it but I hear CF and
ADO don't like to play nice.. any thoughts are appreciated...

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Re: Got PDFlib?

2001-02-05 Thread stas

If you have $35K lying around and know a bit of FrameMaker, there is a great
product called DLFormatter from http://www.datalogics.com


- Original Message -
From: "Daye, Marianne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Originally we were using Crystal Reports and CFX_CRWTOPDF which no longer
> works, and I haven't been able to find anything to replace it that
> combination.  Generating the PDF files on the server is the best
alternative
> I've been able to come up with.  Got better ones?



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why use 3rd dimensional array??? You dont understand!

2001-02-05 Thread Phoeun Pha

BAH!  This is what i mean.

What are the PRACTICAL real life uses for 3rd dimensional arrays?

ANALOGY if u still dont understand.

In trig, we learned how to figure out volume using the shell, disc, and i
forget the other one.  Ok, big deal. 

however, the practical use of this is to measure the volume of a hill and
figure out how much of it you're gonna chop off so u can biuld a house on it
blah blah blah.

I understand how 3 dimensional arrays work programmatically. but i wanna
know the practical uses of it



-Original Message-
From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 2:57 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: why use 3rd dimensional array???


Since when was math stuff not a real situation
- Original Message -
From: "Phoeun Pha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:36 PM
Subject: RE: why use 3rd dimensional array???


> well yeah i can see how it can be used for math stuff.  but i mean like a
> real situation
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:17 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: why use 3rd dimensional array???
>
>
> to hold 3 dimensional data. sorry.
>
> Simple example. some kind of cubic sample. like say air temperature in a
> room for each specific cubic foot. The index is h,w,l and the value
> corresponds to the appropriate cube in the room.
>
> I can get a better, more practival example if you like.
>
> E
>
> From: Phoeun Pha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: why use 3rd dimensional array???
> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 12:35:38 -0600
>
> how would one use a third dimensional array?  it's hard for me to
> conceptualize a practical use for it!
>
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Re: CF Server Feedback

2001-02-05 Thread Edward Smith

No, 10K per hour is 2.7 per second.  173is per minute.

But most pages are a hell of a lot larger then 5k.

JayB wrote:
> 
> At 12:10 PM 2/5/2001 -0700, you wrote:
> >Dylan,
> >
> >Do you think the DSL will be able to handle this (lets say 50 sites with
> >5,000 page views a day per site), or should I look at a T1 line.
> 
>  From IIS 5.0 chapter on Capacity planning.
> 
> based on 5 kb page size
> 
> 640 kpbs dsl connection = almost 11 pages sent/sec.
> T1 - 1.536 Mbps = 26 pages sent/sec.
> 
> T3 - 44.736 Mbps = 760
> 
> Your specs are calling for about 10,000 views per hour which work out to
> 173 views per second.
> 
> To guarantee no bottle necks at full capacity you'd probably need a
> T3especially since most pages are over 5 kb...and that doesn't include
> graphics.
> 
>
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Sub-query a cached query?

2001-02-05 Thread Willy Ray


Can I make an enormous cached query, and then query those results?  Say, for example, 
I wanted to query all customers and all invoices at once, then display a list of 
customers with unpayed invoices, linked with URL variables to a detail page that would 
show the invoice details.  Could I do this with one big query, cached at the 
beginning, and never hit my database again until the cache expired?  

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RE: ADO and CF

2001-02-05 Thread Robert Everland

That's because you have to go through an extra layer. Ado is native for ASP
so it would only make sense that it would be faster in ASP.

Robert Everland III
Web Developer
Dixon Ticonderoga


-Original Message-
From: Dylan Bromby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 3:49 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: ADO and CF


i've done a few things in ADO with CF. i built an interface to manage
hundreds of sites in IIS through CF using ADO/ADSI. however, the
applications i worked on were eventually converted to VB and they ran MUCH
faster.

-Original Message-
From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 12:43 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: ADO and CF


Anyone had any luck using ADO with CF? I want to use it but I hear CF and
ADO don't like to play nice.. any thoughts are appreciated...

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RE: why use 3rd dimensional array??? You dont understand!

2001-02-05 Thread Russel Madere

I can step in here.

I have used 3 dimensional arrays to store weather data for specific sites.
I have several sensors across several locations on a site that I need to
track over time.

My array looks like:

reading[SiteID][SessorFarmID][Time]

This is used in a non-web language, but a similar situation could envisioned
for Cold Fusion or JavaScript.

Russel


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> -Original Message-
> From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 14:55
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: why use 3rd dimensional array??? You dont understand!
>
>
> BAH!  This is what i mean.
>
> What are the PRACTICAL real life uses for 3rd dimensional arrays?
>
> ANALOGY if u still dont understand.
>
> In trig, we learned how to figure out volume using the shell, disc, and i
> forget the other one.  Ok, big deal.
>
> however, the practical use of this is to measure the volume of a hill and
> figure out how much of it you're gonna chop off so u can biuld a
> house on it
> blah blah blah.
>
> I understand how 3 dimensional arrays work programmatically. but i wanna
> know the practical uses of it
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 2:57 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: why use 3rd dimensional array???
>
>
> Since when was math stuff not a real situation
> - Original Message -
> From: "Phoeun Pha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:36 PM
> Subject: RE: why use 3rd dimensional array???
>
>
> > well yeah i can see how it can be used for math stuff.  but i
> mean like a
> > real situation
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:17 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: why use 3rd dimensional array???
> >
> >
> > to hold 3 dimensional data. sorry.
> >
> > Simple example. some kind of cubic sample. like say air temperature in a
> > room for each specific cubic foot. The index is h,w,l and the value
> > corresponds to the appropriate cube in the room.
> >
> > I can get a better, more practival example if you like.
> >
> > E
> >
> > From: Phoeun Pha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: why use 3rd dimensional array???
> > Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 12:35:38 -0600
> >
> > how would one use a third dimensional array?  it's hard for me to
> > conceptualize a practical use for it!
> >
>
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RE: ADO and CF

2001-02-05 Thread Clint Tredway

I am trying to decide whether to use ADO or not becuase I could use some of its 
functionality that CFQUERY doesn't give me. Thanks for the replys.

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Re: why use 3rd dimensional array??? You dont understand!

2001-02-05 Thread Kevin Schmidt

Maybe you can remove your head from your ass using a 3 dimensional array.
Let me know if it works.
- Original Message -
From: "Phoeun Pha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 2:55 PM
Subject: why use 3rd dimensional array??? You dont understand!


> BAH!  This is what i mean.
>
> What are the PRACTICAL real life uses for 3rd dimensional arrays?
>
> ANALOGY if u still dont understand.
>
> In trig, we learned how to figure out volume using the shell, disc, and i
> forget the other one.  Ok, big deal.
>
> however, the practical use of this is to measure the volume of a hill and
> figure out how much of it you're gonna chop off so u can biuld a house on
it
> blah blah blah.
>
> I understand how 3 dimensional arrays work programmatically. but i wanna
> know the practical uses of it
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 2:57 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: why use 3rd dimensional array???
>
>
> Since when was math stuff not a real situation
> - Original Message -
> From: "Phoeun Pha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:36 PM
> Subject: RE: why use 3rd dimensional array???
>
>
> > well yeah i can see how it can be used for math stuff.  but i mean like
a
> > real situation
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:17 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: why use 3rd dimensional array???
> >
> >
> > to hold 3 dimensional data. sorry.
> >
> > Simple example. some kind of cubic sample. like say air temperature in a
> > room for each specific cubic foot. The index is h,w,l and the value
> > corresponds to the appropriate cube in the room.
> >
> > I can get a better, more practival example if you like.
> >
> > E
> >
> > From: Phoeun Pha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: why use 3rd dimensional array???
> > Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 12:35:38 -0600
> >
> > how would one use a third dimensional array?  it's hard for me to
> > conceptualize a practical use for it!
> >
>
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CFPOP requirements with exchange

2001-02-05 Thread David Adams

I get the following error: "A required privilege is not held by the client."

This happens when I attempt to get the headers only (and getall) from a user
with password from my exchange server via cfpop. 
What does this mean? My mail administrator doesn't know how to help. 
Thanks 
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Re: why use 3rd dimensional array??? You dont understand!

2001-02-05 Thread Joseph Thompson

I use three dimensional arrays as "two dimensional arrays" with bonus
comment fields.

Unlike C++ i don't get penalized for wasting Ram (my understanding)


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RE: Sub-query a cached query?

2001-02-05 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP

> Can I make an enormous cached query, and then query those
> results?  Say, for example, I wanted to query all customers and
> all invoices at once, then display a list of customers with
> unpayed invoices, linked with URL variables to a detail page that
> would show the invoice details.  Could I do this with one big
> query, cached at the beginning, and never hit my database again
> until the cache expired?

With CF4.x you'd have to loop through the query to display what you want
(more on the CF server than the database server)

In CF5 you'll be able to query a query, i.e. trim down the query results
with SQL

BTW, I don't think I'm breaking the CF5 NDA as Jeremy told the CFUG about it
a month or so ago...

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RE: why use 3rd dimensional array??? You dont understand!

2001-02-05 Thread Phoeun Pha

did u have a bad day Schmidt?  eh heh


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 4:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: why use 3rd dimensional array??? You dont understand!


Maybe you can remove your head from your ass using a 3 dimensional array.
Let me know if it works.
- Original Message -
From: "Phoeun Pha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 2:55 PM
Subject: why use 3rd dimensional array??? You dont understand!


> BAH!  This is what i mean.
>
> What are the PRACTICAL real life uses for 3rd dimensional arrays?
>
> ANALOGY if u still dont understand.
>
> In trig, we learned how to figure out volume using the shell, disc, and i
> forget the other one.  Ok, big deal.
>
> however, the practical use of this is to measure the volume of a hill and
> figure out how much of it you're gonna chop off so u can biuld a house on
it
> blah blah blah.
>
> I understand how 3 dimensional arrays work programmatically. but i wanna
> know the practical uses of it
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 2:57 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: why use 3rd dimensional array???
>
>
> Since when was math stuff not a real situation
> - Original Message -
> From: "Phoeun Pha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:36 PM
> Subject: RE: why use 3rd dimensional array???
>
>
> > well yeah i can see how it can be used for math stuff.  but i mean like
a
> > real situation
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:17 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: why use 3rd dimensional array???
> >
> >
> > to hold 3 dimensional data. sorry.
> >
> > Simple example. some kind of cubic sample. like say air temperature in a
> > room for each specific cubic foot. The index is h,w,l and the value
> > corresponds to the appropriate cube in the room.
> >
> > I can get a better, more practival example if you like.
> >
> > E
> >
> > From: Phoeun Pha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: why use 3rd dimensional array???
> > Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 12:35:38 -0600
> >
> > how would one use a third dimensional array?  it's hard for me to
> > conceptualize a practical use for it!
> >
>
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