Re: Quotes in dynamic queries [solved]

2003-09-17 Thread Richard Meredith-Hardy
My mistake, however it wouldn't solve my particular problem because this
particular app is recording a  'history' of changes {"x changed from y
to z").  Yes, I know I could do this with triggers / stored procedures
but in this case it would be awfully complicated, so instead I am
evaluating the form returns and only updating fields which have changed
[to acceptable values], and also writing to a history log. The entire
thing is configured from a single structure of parameters so it is
fairly simple to manage.

To update only the fields with valid alterations I am building a query
string on the fly "fieldx = 'newvalue', fieldy = 'other new value',
fieldz = new date" etc. which is eventually put into the UPDATE query.
Single quotes input by the user in text fields were causing problems
because of their reserved use in SQL but not any other characters I can
find. 



Jochem van Dieten wrote:
> 
> Richard Meredith-Hardy wrote:
> >
> >  > have
> 
> That is incorrect, you can use it anywhere.
> 
> > Second off, in a dynamic query like below, you need the
> > preservesinglequotes() so the single quotes 'surrounding' the text value
> > are not escaped automatically, however this will also preserve single
> > quotes in the body of the text value which will cause an error.  The fix
> > is to escape any single quotes in the body of the text value before you
> > give it to preservesinglequotes(). Once I realized what I wanted, a very
> > simple UDF did the trick (easier to read and I will use it a lot):
> >
> > 
> > function EscapeSingleQuotes(x)
> > {
> > return replace(x,"'","''","all");
> > }
> > 
> >
> > 
> >  > idx])#'">
> >
> >  
> >  UPDATE testtable
> >  SET #preservesinglequotes(tempVar)#
> >  WHERE rowref = #idx#
> >  
> > 
> 
> Escaping single quotes often is not enough, many database have
> escape characters like "\". You really should use cfqueryparam:
> 
> 
> 
> UPDATE testtable
> SET fieldstr =  value="#form["fieldstr_" & idx]#">
> WHERE rowref =  value="#idx#">
> 
> 
> 
> Jochem
> 
> 
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RE: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure)

2003-09-17 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:07 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure)
> 
> > The two biggest requests for new functionality I here are:
> >
> > 1) End of session processing (however it's done, an event model, a
> > special template handler, etc - people are always asking "how do I
tell
> > when a user is about to time-out").
> That would be great. OnEventEnd as a setting of some sort in the
> CFAPPLICATION
> tag to run a template when the specific event ends (OnSessionEnd,
> OnApplicationEnd). An admin or programatic way of watching the current
> session
> information would also be great. You can hack such a thing now, but
built
> in
> would be so much nicer.

I've got a feature request in the MM system now (actually added for me
by Adam Cameron) suggesting the extension of the Application.cfm to at
least four levels:

Application.cfm/OnRequestStart.cfm (a much better name I think)

OnRequestEnd.cfm: Already implemented

OnServerStart.cfm: Runs when the server starts. (Maybe not a good idea
as there may be file placement issues). 

OnServerEnd.cfm: Runs when the server is taken down "nicely" - would be
useful for logging and such.

OnApplicationStart.cfm: Runs once the first time an app starts (server
refresh).

OnApplicationEnd.cfm: Runs on a nice server refresh or app time-out.

OnSessionStart.cfm: Runs once when a session is initialized in that
session's space.

OnSessionEnd.cfm: Runs right before a session is timed-out in that
session's space (but doesn't reset the session timeout).

> > 2) Direct Image manipulation (at the very least information access
and
> > resizing - it seems like every other week somebody is asking how to
do a
> > thumbnail gallery).  This is pretty easy nowadays if you know a
little
> > Java - but many CFers don't.
> Direct image, PDF, RTF, etc. manipulation/creation. We can create
graphs
> on the
> fly nativly in CF, we can create images using the CFX_Image tag, we
can
> use X,Y,
> or Z product to create PDFs. Why not make it all native to CF.

This is the kind of thing that you can really extend infinitely.  For
specific file formats (like PDF) I'm not sure if it's something MM would
want to do (licensing costs, perhaps, and version issues might crop up).
However it seems like they may be able to partner with somebody for this
stuff and include it in the base product.

In general CF's handling of binary data leaves a lot to be desired
(although it has gotten much better).  Although it is possible to embed
binary data in a CF file now it's a little kludgy.

It would be very nice to be able to stream data into CF (as from a text
log file) instead of being forced to always load the entire file into
memory via CFFILE.

> > Even if NNTP's not "in demand" it does seem like one of the only
major
> > protocols that CF doesn't support natively.  For that reason alone
it
> > might be nice to see it in there ("Supports all major Internet
> > protocols").
> My point. :)

And a fine point it is.  ;^)

I'm just surprised that this was never done... I know that they've
always got bigger, better on the horizon and they're working on that,
but NNTP is such a simple protocol (no more complex than say SMTP or
POP).  You'd think they would have done something long ago.

Jim Davis


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RE: (Admin) disclosure

2003-09-17 Thread Peter Tilbrook
Or a HomeSite+ as a seperate product! I have CF Studio but HS+ has really
grown on me - even the different icon representation of CFML templates after
all these years.

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>>to Macromedia so they can review what people are talking about in
ColdFusion.

Joly good idea, so MM listen : GIVE US BACK CF STUDIO, PLASE ! ;-)


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ot: somewhat dumb mail ?

2003-09-17 Thread cf
a few weeks ago i did a bulk email out to my clients & the program used my
localhost to send it i guess. Im running XP pro NO/IIS just cfmx 6.1
standalone. But this 1 dam email keeps coming back & i cant figure out
where to kill it at, any thoughts? its driving me nutz!

here is the whole message

The original message was received at Tue, 16 Sep 2003 07:06:51 -0700
from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(reason: 554 5.4.6 Too many hops)

   - Transcript of session follows -
554 5.4.6 Too many hops 27 (25 max): from [EMAIL PROTECTED] via localhost, to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Re: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure)

2003-09-17 Thread Michael Dinowitz
> The two biggest requests for new functionality I here are:
>
> 1) End of session processing (however it's done, an event model, a
> special template handler, etc - people are always asking "how do I tell
> when a user is about to time-out").
That would be great. OnEventEnd as a setting of some sort in the CFAPPLICATION
tag to run a template when the specific event ends (OnSessionEnd,
OnApplicationEnd). An admin or programatic way of watching the current session
information would also be great. You can hack such a thing now, but built in
would be so much nicer.

> 2) Direct Image manipulation (at the very least information access and
> resizing - it seems like every other week somebody is asking how to do a
> thumbnail gallery).  This is pretty easy nowadays if you know a little
> Java - but many CFers don't.
Direct image, PDF, RTF, etc. manipulation/creation. We can create graphs on the
fly nativly in CF, we can create images using the CFX_Image tag, we can use X,Y,
or Z product to create PDFs. Why not make it all native to CF.

> Even if NNTP's not "in demand" it does seem like one of the only major
> protocols that CF doesn't support natively.  For that reason alone it
> might be nice to see it in there ("Supports all major Internet
> protocols").
My point. :)


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Re: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure)

2003-09-17 Thread Michael Dinowitz
> > Now they'll have to go through over 225,000 messages to see what we
> > want in CF
> > and where we want it to go (NNTP, full protocol support, enhanced
> > scheduling,
> > Studio, etc.). Even with threading and subject sorting, it's not going
> > to be
> > something easy.
> >
> Studio seems like a pretty obvious want from the community. However, I
> was hoping you could clarify what you mean by full protocol support and
> enhanced scheduling.
>
> BTW, I wasn't aware that NNTP was in such high demand from CFers.
Full protocol as in full communication protocols. We've got FTP, HTTP, SMTP, POP
but there are others like NNTP that are missing. I'm not putting NNTP itself on
the top of the list, but it's one of the most commonly used protocols that's
missing from CF. A CFSocket tag might take care of it while a CFSocket and a
CFNNTP (and maybe even a CFTelnet) might be nice. I'm just looking for the
complete spread.

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RE: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure)

2003-09-17 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 11:50 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure)
> 
> > Now they'll have to go through over 225,000 messages to see what we
> > want in CF
> > and where we want it to go (NNTP, full protocol support, enhanced
> > scheduling,
> > Studio, etc.). Even with threading and subject sorting, it's not
going
> > to be
> > something easy.
> >
> Studio seems like a pretty obvious want from the community. However, I
> was hoping you could clarify what you mean by full protocol support
and
> enhanced scheduling.
> 
> BTW, I wasn't aware that NNTP was in such high demand from CFers.

I for one would like it - but I'm with you: I doubt it's high on most
people lists (although, as a list-admin, Mike may have different
priorities).  ;^)

The two biggest requests for new functionality I here are:

1) End of session processing (however it's done, an event model, a
special template handler, etc - people are always asking "how do I tell
when a user is about to time-out").

2) Direct Image manipulation (at the very least information access and
resizing - it seems like every other week somebody is asking how to do a
thumbnail gallery).  This is pretty easy nowadays if you know a little
Java - but many CFers don't.

Even if NNTP's not "in demand" it does seem like one of the only major
protocols that CF doesn't support natively.  For that reason alone it
might be nice to see it in there ("Supports all major Internet
protocols").

Personally I think we're doing pretty well - except for a few things CF
pretty much does it all.  The vast majority of requests, it seems, are
for enhancements to existing stuff (and a good number of them are pretty
esoteric).

Jim Davis


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RE: (Admin) disclosure

2003-09-17 Thread Tony Weeg
hint hint ... macromedians ... hint ... hint :)>

tw

-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 11:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: (Admin) disclosure


Yep. The request was made and I compiled the information and made it
available
to them. I saw no reason not to do so and every reason to do it. They
didn't ask
for user information or anything for tracking so there wasn't even a
concern in
that area.
Now they'll have to go through over 225,000 messages to see what we want
in CF
and where we want it to go (NNTP, full protocol support, enhanced
scheduling,
Studio, etc.). Even with threading and subject sorting, it's not going
to be
something easy.
Note that this is only the information since Jan 2000. I still have
never put up
the pre-2000 archives. That would have involve another few hundred
thousand.
Now if they want to hire me to do the sorting and collating for them as
a full
time job, I'm all for it. :)

> well done MM, you have impressed me again :)
> mike, did they actually ask you for this?
>
> tony
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:24 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: (Admin) disclosure
>
>
> >>to Macromedia so they can review what people are talking about in
> ColdFusion.
>
> Joly good idea, so MM listen : GIVE US BACK CF STUDIO, PLASE ! ;-)


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wanted features (was Re: (Admin) disclosure)

2003-09-17 Thread Matt Liotta
> Now they'll have to go through over 225,000 messages to see what we 
> want in CF
> and where we want it to go (NNTP, full protocol support, enhanced 
> scheduling,
> Studio, etc.). Even with threading and subject sorting, it's not going 
> to be
> something easy.
>
Studio seems like a pretty obvious want from the community. However, I 
was hoping you could clarify what you mean by full protocol support and 
enhanced scheduling.

BTW, I wasn't aware that NNTP was in such high demand from CFers.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.MontaraSoftware.com
(888) 408-0900 x901


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Re: order and re-oder

2003-09-17 Thread Bob Haroche
> The user wants to be able to add new photographs and reorder them so
that
> prefered photos come first.


I think Jeff Howden's provided an excellent start on this for you:

http://evolt.jeffhowden.com/jeff/code/total_select.cfm



-
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Bob Haroche
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Re: Oracle error

2003-09-17 Thread Dave Carabetta
> We have an Oracle 8.15 database. We have recently been experiencing
periodic error meesage when some of our CF scripts try to execute an insert
statement. The error that is returned is
>
> Error Message: Oracle Error Code = 1704ORA-01704: string literal too
long
>
> When I copy and paste the SQL insert statement into SQLPlus it inserts teh
data, no problem.
>
> This is only happening with long strings of data (varchar(4000)). The one
change I do make when I paste it into sqlplus is that I insert carriage
returns into any single line that is too long. This is because SQLPlus has
issues with lines that are too long and if I dont put these in then SQLPlus
gives me a different error indicating it can't handle the length.
>
> Has anyone seen this behavior before? If not, does anyone know of a way to
add line breaks into a string every 90 charachters or so (reemembering that
the line breaks can't occur in the middle of a word)
>

For strings that long, use cfqueryparam with the cf_sql_longvarchar type. We
use CLOBs on CF 4.5 using cfqueryparam (11K, 12K, etc) with no problem.

Regards,
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RE: DNS, IIS Tags?

2003-09-17 Thread Brad Roberts
Thanks everyone!  I'm off to check out your suggestions

Brad

-Original Message-
From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: DNS, IIS Tags?


http://www.intrafoundation.com/ihtk.asp

Doesn't do DNS, but there is a free DNS COM object floating around, as
well as some command line scripts that MS gives away to manage dns.
I had a few issues with it in the past, but it's been a while, and it
could have been my fault.

Personally I'd go with straight ADSI stuff using scripts, VB, .Net, or
whatever else floats your boat, and not worrying about using CF except
to run whatever scripts/executable are needed. I can say that .Net
makes working with ADSI much less painful, and it's guaranteed (as
guaranteed as anything MS) to be supported in future versions of
Windows...

--
 jon
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 6:29:36 PM, you wrote:
BR> Anyone know of a tag that will create DNS records in Windows DNS, or a
tag
BR> that will create websites in IIS 5?  Using Win2K Server, IIS 5, & CF
6.1.

BR> Thanks,

BR> Brad


BR>

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Re: (Admin) disclosure

2003-09-17 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Yep. The request was made and I compiled the information and made it available
to them. I saw no reason not to do so and every reason to do it. They didn't ask
for user information or anything for tracking so there wasn't even a concern in
that area.
Now they'll have to go through over 225,000 messages to see what we want in CF
and where we want it to go (NNTP, full protocol support, enhanced scheduling,
Studio, etc.). Even with threading and subject sorting, it's not going to be
something easy.
Note that this is only the information since Jan 2000. I still have never put up
the pre-2000 archives. That would have involve another few hundred thousand.
Now if they want to hire me to do the sorting and collating for them as a full
time job, I'm all for it. :)

> well done MM, you have impressed me again :)
> mike, did they actually ask you for this?
>
> tony
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:24 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: (Admin) disclosure
>
>
> >>to Macromedia so they can review what people are talking about in
> ColdFusion.
>
> Joly good idea, so MM listen : GIVE US BACK CF STUDIO, PLASE ! ;-)

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Oracle error

2003-09-17 Thread ricki . stern
We have an Oracle 8.15 database. We have recently been experiencing periodic error 
meesage when some of our CF scripts try to execute an insert statement. The error that 
is returned is 

Error Message: Oracle Error Code = 1704ORA-01704: string literal too long

When I copy and paste the SQL insert statement into SQLPlus it inserts teh data, no 
problem. 

This is only happening with long strings of data (varchar(4000)). The one change I do 
make when I paste it into sqlplus is that I insert carriage returns into any single 
line that is too long. This is because SQLPlus has issues with lines that are too long 
and if I dont put these in then SQLPlus gives me a different error indicating it can't 
handle the length.

Has anyone seen this behavior before? If not, does anyone know of a way to add line 
breaks into a string every 90 charachters or so (reemembering that the line breaks 
can't occur in the middle of a word)

thanks for any help

Ricki
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Re: Finding CF Server

2003-09-17 Thread Matt Liotta
> I need to get my hands on a copy of CF Server, and i'm hoping atleast 
> 4.5.  I need to find it as cheap as possible and i'm wondering, can 
> you upgrade a CF Server 4.0 to 4.5 for free or does that require a 
> purchase?  Anyone know?  Anyone got any leads on finding the pro or 
> ent version for dirt cheap?  I've been checking Ebay and it looks like 
> i'll end up paying several hundred for it, but I want the best deal I 
> can get.  Anyone got an old copy laying around they wanna unload for 
> some cash?
>
You know you can BlueDragon for free and it supports CF 5 features.

Matt Liotta
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RE: (Admin) disclosure

2003-09-17 Thread Tony Weeg
well done MM, you have impressed me again :)
mike, did they actually ask you for this?

tony

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Subject: Re: (Admin) disclosure


>>to Macromedia so they can review what people are talking about in
ColdFusion.

Joly good idea, so MM listen : GIVE US BACK CF STUDIO, PLASE ! ;-)


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Finding CF Server

2003-09-17 Thread Robert
Hey all:

I need to get my hands on a copy of CF Server, and i'm hoping atleast 4.5.  I need to 
find it as cheap as possible and i'm wondering, can you upgrade a CF Server 4.0 to 4.5 
for free or does that require a purchase?  Anyone know?  Anyone got any leads on 
finding the pro or ent version for dirt cheap?  I've been checking Ebay and it looks 
like i'll end up paying several hundred for it, but I want the best deal I can get.  
Anyone got an old copy laying around they wanna unload for some cash?

Thanks,
Robert

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Re: order and re-oder

2003-09-17 Thread Claude Schneegans
I would use thumnail images, and drag'n drop the (in Javascript). Depending on the y 
value where the image is droped, you can determine between which images the image was 
droped. Suppose the image was moved up, then move one position down all images between 
the end and start position and set the image at thre new position. To "move images", 
just change their address (.src) in the images array.
If the image was moved down, inverse the algorithm.

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Re: (Admin) disclosure

2003-09-17 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>to Macromedia so they can review what people are talking about in ColdFusion.

Joly good idea, so MM listen : GIVE US BACK CF STUDIO, PLASE ! ;-)

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Re: order and re-oder

2003-09-17 Thread jon hall
There are probably a lot of different solutions to this, but here's
my suggestion.

To put it simply, create a sort order field attached to each image.
While the user is sorting, let them go at it, reordering however they
want. When they are done, reindex all of the items they were sorting,
and update the sort order field in the database.

Whether you keep track of the sort order number behind the scenes, or
make them input a number doesn't matter. Your sorting routine should
basically loop through the numbers, and reorder them from 1 , and the
reordered numbers are what you put in the database, and what you use
to sort by. If performance is an issue, scheduling reindexing would
keep the sort values from getting messy as well.

Remember that, when sorting item 1 down, it becomes item 2, and item 2
becomes item 1. Follow that logic through...and the rest is icing on
the cake.

If you are looking for an idea for a UI and are javascript inclined
you can use this if you want. IE only...some complexish DOM2 stuff.
http://216.136.31.190/sort/

-- 
 jon
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 9:01:41 PM, you wrote:
m> I would like to be able let a user reorder photographs.

m> Grouping them by type is not the issue, (fashion, runway, nature, etc...) or
m> by subcategory (fashion_gender, runway_designer)

m> The user wants to be able to add new photographs and reorder them so that
m> prefered photos come first.

m> My first thought is to have a photoOrder field which the user can update
m> with an admin screen (simplified) something like the following:

m> photoOrder Number --- photo

m> 10 -- [img]
m> 15 -- [img]
m> 20 -- [img]

m> The user can update the 10 (it's in a text field) to a 21 and have the first
m> photo appear last. With only a few graphics in each sub category this can
m> work fairly well --- but it's REALLY UGLY.

m> Better yet would be to be able to move the graphic
m> 1. up or down with an arrow (for one at a time)
m> 2. send to end / beginning
m> 3. have a text box to send a specified amount up or down.

m> A simplified example below:

m> <<  < [insert amount] >  >>

m> I can think of a way to update the records for this to work but eventually
m> it would be a real big mess.

m> User moves number 33 to behind 55.
m> If 56 is there the photoOrder gets designated 55a
m> 55b comes after 55a

m> (55,55a,55b,56)

m> Now with only a few photos, or even a few dozen photos who cares. But in a
m> more involved system one would get situation like the following

m> (55a1,55a2,55a3,55a4,55a5)
m> (55a2a,55a2b,55a2c,55a2d)

m> This is ridiculous.( or is it?)

m> Is there a way to reorder/organize this field?

m> to take a sorted list(of this field) 1-77-203-204-999 and make it
m> 10,20,30,40,50 or (1000,2000,3000)

m> Gilbert Midonnet

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RE: order and re-oder

2003-09-17 Thread Gunther Ahamer
How about just assigning every image with a sequetial integer and for
updating just do swaps with the IDs, sort of like a bubble sort.

for reordering use a bit of CSS and javascript and have each of your images
as a span with an onclick which highlights that image to show its selected.
Between each element have an arrow of some type which is basically a "insert
here"

>
 ---image---
>
 ---image---
>
 ---image---
>

etc.

when an image is selected and one of the arrows is clicked you need to do
your updating.
In your database say you have

imagename | orderID
a   1
b   2
c   3
d   4
e   5
f   6

where imagename is your primary key
now if you wanted to move f to be just below b you would have to have an
UPDATE statement like

UPDATE table
SET orderID = orderID + 1
WHERE orderID > (SELECT orderID FROM table WHERE imagename = 'b')

UPDATE table
SET orderID = (SELECT orderID FROM table WHERE imagename = 'b')+ 1
WHERE imagename = 'f'

You would need to also have a case where you want to move in the other
direction.
This hasnt been tested, just an idea.

regards,

Gunther

-Original Message-
From: mayo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2003 11:02 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: order and re-oder 


I would like to be able let a user reorder photographs.

Grouping them by type is not the issue, (fashion, runway, nature, etc...) or
by subcategory (fashion_gender, runway_designer)

The user wants to be able to add new photographs and reorder them so that
prefered photos come first.

My first thought is to have a photoOrder field which the user can update
with an admin screen (simplified) something like the following:

photoOrder Number --- photo

10 -- [img]
15 -- [img]
20 -- [img]

The user can update the 10 (it's in a text field) to a 21 and have the first
photo appear last. With only a few graphics in each sub category this can
work fairly well --- but it's REALLY UGLY.

Better yet would be to be able to move the graphic
1. up or down with an arrow (for one at a time)
2. send to end / beginning
3. have a text box to send a specified amount up or down.

A simplified example below:

<<  < [insert amount] >  >>

I can think of a way to update the records for this to work but eventually
it would be a real big mess.

User moves number 33 to behind 55.
If 56 is there the photoOrder gets designated 55a
55b comes after 55a

(55,55a,55b,56)

Now with only a few photos, or even a few dozen photos who cares. But in a
more involved system one would get situation like the following

(55a1,55a2,55a3,55a4,55a5)
(55a2a,55a2b,55a2c,55a2d)

This is ridiculous.( or is it?)

Is there a way to reorder/organize this field?

to take a sorted list(of this field) 1-77-203-204-999 and make it
10,20,30,40,50 or (1000,2000,3000)

Gilbert Midonnet













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order and re-oder

2003-09-17 Thread mayo
I would like to be able let a user reorder photographs.

Grouping them by type is not the issue, (fashion, runway, nature, etc...) or
by subcategory (fashion_gender, runway_designer)

The user wants to be able to add new photographs and reorder them so that
prefered photos come first.

My first thought is to have a photoOrder field which the user can update
with an admin screen (simplified) something like the following:

photoOrder Number --- photo

10 -- [img]
15 -- [img]
20 -- [img]

The user can update the 10 (it's in a text field) to a 21 and have the first
photo appear last. With only a few graphics in each sub category this can
work fairly well --- but it's REALLY UGLY.

Better yet would be to be able to move the graphic
1. up or down with an arrow (for one at a time)
2. send to end / beginning
3. have a text box to send a specified amount up or down.

A simplified example below:

<<  < [insert amount] >  >>

I can think of a way to update the records for this to work but eventually
it would be a real big mess.

User moves number 33 to behind 55.
If 56 is there the photoOrder gets designated 55a
55b comes after 55a

(55,55a,55b,56)

Now with only a few photos, or even a few dozen photos who cares. But in a
more involved system one would get situation like the following

(55a1,55a2,55a3,55a4,55a5)
(55a2a,55a2b,55a2c,55a2d)

This is ridiculous.( or is it?)

Is there a way to reorder/organize this field?

to take a sorted list(of this field) 1-77-203-204-999 and make it
10,20,30,40,50 or (1000,2000,3000)

Gilbert Midonnet












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RE: (Admin) disclosure

2003-09-17 Thread Ken Wilson
Glad to hear they're interested. These lists contain a wealth of information
that should serve them well if they listen with an open mind to what's being
said and truly take it to heart.

Ken


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Subject: (Admin) disclosure


I'm for full disclosure which is why I'm letting everyone here know that I'm
giving a data dump of this and a few other lists to Macromedia so they can
review what people are talking about in ColdFusion. This data will be used
to
enhance their ability to give us the features we want and address our
concerns.
I will be providing message bodies and subjects only. No user information,
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RE: Dreamweaver Fatal Exception

2003-09-17 Thread Barney Boisvert
I just got that error this morning for the first time.  It happened when I
was redoing a bunch of steps in a row (say 10-15) and was mashing the keys
in rapid succession.

barneyb

> -Original Message-
> From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 4:21 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Dreamweaver Fatal Exception
>
>
> I used to get this all the time with MX, never figured out what cause
> it. 2004 hasn't crashed on me yet.
>
> Stace
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gary Hotko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: September 17, 2003 11:05 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Dreamweaver Fatal Exception
>
> A bit puzzled... I am using DWMX and during this morning.. I have gotten
>
> "Dreamweaver has encoutered a Fatal Exeption and will now terminiate"...
>
> What is causing this? It seems while I have been working on 2 pages. Any
>
> Ideas...?
>
> Thanks
>
>
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RE: Dreamweaver Fatal Exception

2003-09-17 Thread Stacy Young
I used to get this all the time with MX, never figured out what cause
it. 2004 hasn't crashed on me yet.

Stace


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Sent: September 17, 2003 11:05 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Dreamweaver Fatal Exception

A bit puzzled... I am using DWMX and during this morning.. I have gotten

"Dreamweaver has encoutered a Fatal Exeption and will now terminiate"...

What is causing this? It seems while I have been working on 2 pages. Any

Ideas...?

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RE: SSL / Flash Remoting / CFMX

2003-09-17 Thread Stacy Young
Yep, no issues...but make sure the pluginspace address is HTTPS inside
ur object tag.

Stace

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Subject: SSL / Flash Remoting / CFMX

Any issues here? Has anyone done this yet?

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(Admin) disclosure

2003-09-17 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I'm for full disclosure which is why I'm letting everyone here know that I'm
giving a data dump of this and a few other lists to Macromedia so they can
review what people are talking about in ColdFusion. This data will be used to
enhance their ability to give us the features we want and address our concerns.
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Re: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Kevin Pompei
I think the kernal is 2.4.21.  But when I think about it, I haven't 
actually used the data in Windows.  (I use Windows data in Linux and 
Linux data in Linux, but not Linux data in Windows.)

Matt Liotta wrote:

>>I've never had any trouble with NTFS from Linux (using Mandrake 8/9).
>>
>>
>>
>Which kernel are you using and are you writing to NTFS from Linux and 
>then making use of the data from Windows later?
>
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Re: DNS, IIS Tags?

2003-09-17 Thread jon hall
http://www.intrafoundation.com/ihtk.asp

Doesn't do DNS, but there is a free DNS COM object floating around, as
well as some command line scripts that MS gives away to manage dns.
I had a few issues with it in the past, but it's been a while, and it
could have been my fault.

Personally I'd go with straight ADSI stuff using scripts, VB, .Net, or
whatever else floats your boat, and not worrying about using CF except
to run whatever scripts/executable are needed. I can say that .Net
makes working with ADSI much less painful, and it's guaranteed (as
guaranteed as anything MS) to be supported in future versions of
Windows...

-- 
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Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 6:29:36 PM, you wrote:
BR> Anyone know of a tag that will create DNS records in Windows DNS, or a tag
BR> that will create websites in IIS 5?  Using Win2K Server, IIS 5, & CF 6.1.

BR> Thanks,

BR> Brad


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Re: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Matt Liotta
> I've never had any trouble with NTFS from Linux (using Mandrake 8/9).
>
Which kernel are you using and are you writing to NTFS from Linux and 
then making use of the data from Windows later?

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RE: DNS, IIS Tags?

2003-09-17 Thread cfhelp
Well I have to do the same thing. I couldn't find a tag so I wrote the code.
I create the website using a Batch file and CFEXECUTE the same for DNS
entries and WARFTP Accounts. 

The script you need to run for IIS is 'mkw3site'

DNS is 'Dnscmd' I think you need to get it off of the Windows 2000 tool kit.

Rick

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Anyone know of a tag that will create DNS records in Windows DNS, or a tag
that will create websites in IIS 5?  Using Win2K Server, IIS 5, & CF 6.1.

Thanks,

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RE: DNS, IIS Tags?

2003-09-17 Thread Mike Brunt
Brad, we have a link in our blog to some CFX's for this and other purposes.

http://www.webapper.net/index.cfm?fuseaction=Fuseblog.ShowComments&ArticleID=20030717113914

Hth

Kind Regards - Mike Brunt

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Re: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Kevin Pompei
I've never had any trouble with NTFS from Linux (using Mandrake 8/9).

Matt Liotta wrote:

>>Even if you used NTFS originally, you can usually get to the filesystem
>>using Linux, and bypass NTFS ACLs as well of course. I don't think 
>>you'll be
>>able to get to it if you reformat or repartition your disk during the 
>>Linux
>>install, though.
>>
>>
>>
>NTFS support in Linux is always up in the air. Last I heard, they have 
>a special Windows tool that you have to run in order to use NTFS in 
>Windows after Linux mucked with it.
>
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DNS, IIS Tags?

2003-09-17 Thread Brad Roberts
Anyone know of a tag that will create DNS records in Windows DNS, or a tag
that will create websites in IIS 5?  Using Win2K Server, IIS 5, & CF 6.1.

Thanks,

Brad


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Re: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB

2003-09-17 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Bruce, Rodney S HQISEC/Veridian IT Services wrote:

> I had a similar issue, but quite as bad, but an MS access db would grow to
> 2GB in about a week or less depending on the activity.  

You might want to check if your client variables have "global 
updates" enabled, they can add quite a bit of load.


> I solved (if you call it that) the issue by doing an automatice compression
> of the db everynight.
> 
> Let me know and I will email you the code off list.
> 
> I got the origanal code from Jochem, so he might have a more updated version
> as well.

I received some patches (for password protected databases), but 
haven't gotten around testing them yet.

Jochem



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I've been in Puerto Rico a little over a year and I cannot BEGIN to tell you
how awesome it's been.  Truly widens the paradigms and offers a much more
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Re: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Matt Liotta
> Even if you used NTFS originally, you can usually get to the filesystem
> using Linux, and bypass NTFS ACLs as well of course. I don't think 
> you'll be
> able to get to it if you reformat or repartition your disk during the 
> Linux
> install, though.
>
NTFS support in Linux is always up in the air. Last I heard, they have 
a special Windows tool that you have to run in order to use NTFS in 
Windows after Linux mucked with it.

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RE: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB

2003-09-17 Thread Mark W. Breneman
Yes please, it may be a good short term fix. Or long term... 

You can mail it to:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Bruce, Rodney S HQISEC/Veridian IT Services
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 4:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB

I had a similar issue, but quite as bad, but an MS access db would grow
to
2GB in about a week or less depending on the activity.  

I solved (if you call it that) the issue by doing an automatice
compression
of the db everynight.

Let me know and I will email you the code off list.

I got the origanal code from Jochem, so he might have a more updated
version
as well.



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Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB


I just got back from a client site and they are running CF5 and MS
access.  
The problem is that the MSAccess file grows at least 5 MB per min. thus
filling the hard disk.  I was able to do a simple compact with access
and the file shrunk from 2 GB to 5 MB, but soon after started to grow
again.

Has anyone seen this before?

I assume that since I can shrink the database to 5 MB then it is not
real data that is taking up the 2gb of space.

Anyone have any ideas?

I found that if reset CF it took about 15mins for the growing to start.

Thanks

Mark W. Breneman
-Cold Fusion Developer
-Network Administrator
  Vivid Media
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.vividmedia.com
  608.270.9770 



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RE: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB

2003-09-17 Thread Bruce, Rodney S HQISEC/Veridian IT Services
I had a similar issue, but quite as bad, but an MS access db would grow to
2GB in about a week or less depending on the activity.  

I solved (if you call it that) the issue by doing an automatice compression
of the db everynight.

Let me know and I will email you the code off list.

I got the origanal code from Jochem, so he might have a more updated version
as well.



-Original Message-
From: Mark W. Breneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB


I just got back from a client site and they are running CF5 and MS
access.  
The problem is that the MSAccess file grows at least 5 MB per min. thus
filling the hard disk.  I was able to do a simple compact with access
and the file shrunk from 2 GB to 5 MB, but soon after started to grow
again.

Has anyone seen this before?

I assume that since I can shrink the database to 5 MB then it is not
real data that is taking up the 2gb of space.

Anyone have any ideas?

I found that if reset CF it took about 15mins for the growing to start.

Thanks

Mark W. Breneman
-Cold Fusion Developer
-Network Administrator
  Vivid Media
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.vividmedia.com
  608.270.9770 


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Re: Urgent: Performance Help

2003-09-17 Thread paris lundis
At the starting level you seem to be at with the site and databases, I'd recommend 
taking the MySQL route  its free... runs on more platforms.. runs darn fast...

If you think your clients/company will be a Windoze shop or clients will be wanting MS 
solutions I'd say pickup MsSQL afterwards...

Simple selects, writes and updates aren't very different between them... syntax can be 
annoying... Transactions and complicated sub queries, mass unions, etc. typically are 
beyond what most folks actually need...

Finally, MySQL + CF can be setup on a smallish computer within your home /office and 
run pretty well...   Be sure to setup dev environment of your own before deploying 
your monster apps...

-paris

-- Original Message --
From: Jim Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Wed, 17 Sep 2003 15:51:14 -0500

>It's interesting they'd charge you more for MySQL than Access (since I 
>assume they'll have more tech support issues with Access ;)
>
>However, MySQL is not that hard to learn.  You don't have transactional 
>support nor real foreign keys, etc.  There are a number of differences 
>that we've discussed before on this list, and you should be able to pick 
>them up for the archives.
>
>SQL Server might be a better choice - it should be able to recognize 
>your tables/datatypes from Access without any problems, and if you're 
>using things like transactions, the migration should be fairly 
>painless.  _Fairly_ painless, not necessarily totally painless.
>
>Best of luck.
>
>- Jim
>
>Andy Ousterhout wrote:
>
>>Jim,
>>I've asked them to look specifically at the Access connection, because I
>>have heard that also.  They have MySQL and SQL Server, for more $$$.  I also
>>would have to learn them, which would take time.  I was hoping to put off
>>moving to a "real" engine after I had a site that might drive some traffic.
>>I may have to change my plans.
>>
>>Thanks
>>Andy
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:32 PM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: Re: Urgent: Performance Help
>>
>>
>>Your problem might lie with Access - I've had plenty of problems with
>>Access and ColdFusion - especially with keeping threads open and bogging
>>down the system - and always on servers that handle many simultaneous
>>requests.  Can you use a different database with them?  PostgreSQL?  SQL
>>Server?  MySQL?
>>
>>- Jim
>>
>>Andy Ousterhout wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>>No, don't recommend Viagrathe problem is I just won't stop.
>>>
>>>My ISP is accusing me of writing code that keeps threads open long after
>>>
>>>
>>they
>>  
>>
>>>should be closed and are threatening to shut down my site.  Good news is
>>>
>>>
>>that
>>  
>>
>>>I don't have many users yet, Bad news is that they can't give me any
>>>
>>>
>>details
>>  
>>
>>>because they don't have their analytical software, Cognos, up yet.
>>>
>>>Is there a site anywhere that can help we walk through my code and try to
>>>figure out what the problem is?  Running MX and Microsoft Access.  It runs
>>>fine as a single user on my PC.
>>>
>>>Thanks for anything you can give me
>>>
>>>Andy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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RE: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Dave Watts
> > Are you concerned about recovering the data on the machine? 
> > If so, installing Linux won't necessarily help you (especially 
> > if you end up repartitioning or reformatting). You might want 
> > to try NT Locksmith and/or NT Recover: ...
> 
> Assuming NTFS wasn't used then the file system could be accessed 
> directly from Linux without issue.

Even if you used NTFS originally, you can usually get to the filesystem
using Linux, and bypass NTFS ACLs as well of course. I don't think you'll be
able to get to it if you reformat or repartition your disk during the Linux
install, though.

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http://www.figleaf.com/
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RE: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB

2003-09-17 Thread Mark W. Breneman
CF5 (as in the subject :-)) I've had a long day too.
MB
-Original Message-
From: Dan Phillips (CFXHosting.com) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 4:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB

Are you are on CF5 or MX?

-Original Message-
From: Mark W. Breneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 5:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB


I am sorry!  The site uses menu monger pro and MM pro does use client
vars.

So yes, it is using client vars.  Now what?  Why did this start to mega
bloat now?  The site has been up and running as is for about a month
with out problems. 

At the rate of an estimated 100MB per hour (I think that is on the low
side) it would only be 20 hours till it built the 2 GB file.

Thanks

MB

-Original Message-
From: Dan Phillips (CFXHosting.com) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB

Hm...did you see anything in the DB when you had it open?

-Original Message-
From: Mark W. Breneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 4:49 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB


No, we are only using session vars.

Mark W. Breneman
-Cold Fusion Developer
-Network Administrator
  Vivid Media
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.vividmedia.com
  608.270.9770

-Original Message-
From: Dan Phillips (CFXHosting.com) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB

Are they storing client variables in the DB?

Dan Phillips
www.CFXHosting.com 
1-866-239-4678
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Mark W. Breneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 4:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB


I just got back from a client site and they are running CF5 and MS
access.  
The problem is that the MSAccess file grows at least 5 MB per min. thus
filling the hard disk.  I was able to do a simple compact with access
and the file shrunk from 2 GB to 5 MB, but soon after started to grow
again.

Has anyone seen this before?

I assume that since I can shrink the database to 5 MB then it is not
real data that is taking up the 2gb of space.

Anyone have any ideas?

I found that if reset CF it took about 15mins for the growing to start.

Thanks

Mark W. Breneman
-Cold Fusion Developer
-Network Administrator
  Vivid Media
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.vividmedia.com
  608.270.9770 







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Re: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB

2003-09-17 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>Has anyone seen this before?

This will happen if you make frequent updates by deleting records and rewriting them 
with different data. I know it is easier, but it leaves plenty of holes in the 
database and every new record takes new space.
One way of avoiding this is to make sure you reuse and update all records you can 
instead of deleting them. It is more work however.

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RE: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB

2003-09-17 Thread Dan Phillips \(CFXHosting.com\)
Are you are on CF5 or MX?

-Original Message-
From: Mark W. Breneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 5:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB


I am sorry!  The site uses menu monger pro and MM pro does use client
vars.

So yes, it is using client vars.  Now what?  Why did this start to mega
bloat now?  The site has been up and running as is for about a month
with out problems. 

At the rate of an estimated 100MB per hour (I think that is on the low
side) it would only be 20 hours till it built the 2 GB file.

Thanks

MB

-Original Message-
From: Dan Phillips (CFXHosting.com) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB

Hm...did you see anything in the DB when you had it open?

-Original Message-
From: Mark W. Breneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 4:49 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB


No, we are only using session vars.

Mark W. Breneman
-Cold Fusion Developer
-Network Administrator
  Vivid Media
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.vividmedia.com
  608.270.9770

-Original Message-
From: Dan Phillips (CFXHosting.com) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB

Are they storing client variables in the DB?

Dan Phillips
www.CFXHosting.com 
1-866-239-4678
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Mark W. Breneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 4:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB


I just got back from a client site and they are running CF5 and MS
access.  
The problem is that the MSAccess file grows at least 5 MB per min. thus
filling the hard disk.  I was able to do a simple compact with access
and the file shrunk from 2 GB to 5 MB, but soon after started to grow
again.

Has anyone seen this before?

I assume that since I can shrink the database to 5 MB then it is not
real data that is taking up the 2gb of space.

Anyone have any ideas?

I found that if reset CF it took about 15mins for the growing to start.

Thanks

Mark W. Breneman
-Cold Fusion Developer
-Network Administrator
  Vivid Media
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.vividmedia.com
  608.270.9770 






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customer list handling custom tag

2003-09-17 Thread stas
I need to let clients upload a mailing list in a delimited format and
"manage" it on the server - add/edit/delete. I've done this type of thing
before, but I was wondering if there is a custom tag that will handling
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RE: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB

2003-09-17 Thread Mark W. Breneman
I am sorry!  The site uses menu monger pro and MM pro does use client
vars.

So yes, it is using client vars.  Now what?  Why did this start to mega
bloat now?  The site has been up and running as is for about a month
with out problems. 

At the rate of an estimated 100MB per hour (I think that is on the low
side) it would only be 20 hours till it built the 2 GB file.

Thanks

MB

-Original Message-
From: Dan Phillips (CFXHosting.com) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB

Hm...did you see anything in the DB when you had it open?

-Original Message-
From: Mark W. Breneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 4:49 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB


No, we are only using session vars.

Mark W. Breneman
-Cold Fusion Developer
-Network Administrator
  Vivid Media
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.vividmedia.com
  608.270.9770

-Original Message-
From: Dan Phillips (CFXHosting.com) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB

Are they storing client variables in the DB?

Dan Phillips
www.CFXHosting.com 
1-866-239-4678
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Mark W. Breneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 4:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB


I just got back from a client site and they are running CF5 and MS
access.  
The problem is that the MSAccess file grows at least 5 MB per min. thus
filling the hard disk.  I was able to do a simple compact with access
and the file shrunk from 2 GB to 5 MB, but soon after started to grow
again.

Has anyone seen this before?

I assume that since I can shrink the database to 5 MB then it is not
real data that is taking up the 2gb of space.

Anyone have any ideas?

I found that if reset CF it took about 15mins for the growing to start.

Thanks

Mark W. Breneman
-Cold Fusion Developer
-Network Administrator
  Vivid Media
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.vividmedia.com
  608.270.9770 





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Re: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Nope...no valued data...just thought i might need to get access to Windows
to toast it and get Linux ontotal drive wipe is fine ;-)

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:36 PM
Subject: RE: Linux Newbie Advice


> > One big issue is the passwords for this box have been lost.
>
> Are you concerned about recovering the data on the machine? If so,
> installing Linux won't necessarily help you (especially if you end up
> repartitioning or reformatting). You might want to try NT Locksmith and/or
> NT Recover:
>
> http://www.winternals.com/
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> voice: (202) 797-5496
> fax: (202) 797-5444
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RE: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB

2003-09-17 Thread Craig Fisher
What does the application do?  Are there tons of inserts and deletes?  

> -Original Message-
> From: Mark W. Breneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:45 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB
> 
> 
> I just got back from a client site and they are running CF5 and MS
> access.  
> The problem is that the MSAccess file grows at least 5 MB per min. thus
> filling the hard disk.  I was able to do a simple compact with access
> and the file shrunk from 2 GB to 5 MB, but soon after started to grow
> again.
> 
> Has anyone seen this before?
> 
> I assume that since I can shrink the database to 5 MB then it is not
> real data that is taking up the 2gb of space.
> 
> Anyone have any ideas?
> 
> I found that if reset CF it took about 15mins for the growing to start.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Mark W. Breneman
> -Cold Fusion Developer
> -Network Administrator
>   Vivid Media
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   www.vividmedia.com
>   608.270.9770 
> 
> 
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Re: Eolas, Flash et al

2003-09-17 Thread Dave Hodder
Matt Robertson wrote:

> Just came across this on-topic-insofar-as-MM/Flash/CF/The-Future-is-concerned 
> subject.
> 
> http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/dailysucker/
> 
> Not looking to spark another debate, but this mentions a MM/MS meeting I hadn't 
> heard about, and I assume I'm not alone on that score

Here's a couple of links you might find useful:

Report by the W3C's  Steven R Bratt:
 http://www.w3.org/2003/08/patent

The public mailing list:
 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-plugins/

HTH

Dave

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RE: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB

2003-09-17 Thread Mark W. Breneman
Dan,

Nothing out of the ordinary.

I have RDS access the client's server.  I am downloading a back up of
the file I made a few min ago. I'll take a 2nd look.

Thanks.

MB


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Hm...did you see anything in the DB when you had it open?

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No, we are only using session vars.

Mark W. Breneman
-Cold Fusion Developer
-Network Administrator
  Vivid Media
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.vividmedia.com
  608.270.9770

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Are they storing client variables in the DB?

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-Original Message-
From: Mark W. Breneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 4:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB


I just got back from a client site and they are running CF5 and MS
access.  
The problem is that the MSAccess file grows at least 5 MB per min. thus
filling the hard disk.  I was able to do a simple compact with access
and the file shrunk from 2 GB to 5 MB, but soon after started to grow
again.

Has anyone seen this before?

I assume that since I can shrink the database to 5 MB then it is not
real data that is taking up the 2gb of space.

Anyone have any ideas?

I found that if reset CF it took about 15mins for the growing to start.

Thanks

Mark W. Breneman
-Cold Fusion Developer
-Network Administrator
  Vivid Media
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.vividmedia.com
  608.270.9770 





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Re: Urgent: Performance Help

2003-09-17 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Andy Ousterhout wrote:
> 
> I've asked them to look specifically at the Access connection, because I
> have heard that also.  They have MySQL and SQL Server, for more $$$.  I also
> would have to learn them, which would take time.  I was hoping to put off
> moving to a "real" engine after I had a site that might drive some traffic.
> I may have to change my plans.

While not on MX, I have some experience with Access and CF. If 
your site is as lightly loaded as you say, it shouldn't be the 
cause of your problems. Maybe wrong drivers/settings, but not the 
Jet engine itself. Not before you are doing 40+ queries per second.

Jochem



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RE: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB

2003-09-17 Thread Dan Phillips \(CFXHosting.com\)
Hm...did you see anything in the DB when you had it open?

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No, we are only using session vars.

Mark W. Breneman
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  www.vividmedia.com
  608.270.9770

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Are they storing client variables in the DB?

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-Original Message-
From: Mark W. Breneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 4:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB


I just got back from a client site and they are running CF5 and MS
access.  
The problem is that the MSAccess file grows at least 5 MB per min. thus
filling the hard disk.  I was able to do a simple compact with access
and the file shrunk from 2 GB to 5 MB, but soon after started to grow
again.

Has anyone seen this before?

I assume that since I can shrink the database to 5 MB then it is not
real data that is taking up the 2gb of space.

Anyone have any ideas?

I found that if reset CF it took about 15mins for the growing to start.

Thanks

Mark W. Breneman
-Cold Fusion Developer
-Network Administrator
  Vivid Media
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.vividmedia.com
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RE: Urgent: Performance Help

2003-09-17 Thread Ian Skinner
Having come from where you are at not that long ago, I can tell you that
picking up the basics of MS SQL server will be very easy.  The parts of
Access that you use in a CF application are fairly similar to the parts of
MS SQL you will use for a CF application, the creation of tables, fields and
relationships.  Adding, editing and deleting are all almost the same.

Now of course there is a LOT more to MS SQL, but the vast majority of this
stuff falls under the "DBA" role, and that person is at the ISP.  So, unless
you are planning on completely taking over the database either in-house or
out.  You shouldn't have to worry about many of these issues.  At least not
just yet.

HTH

--
Ian Skinner
Web Programmer
BloodSource
www.BloodSource.org
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Subject: RE: Urgent: Performance Help


Jim,
I've asked them to look specifically at the Access connection, because I
have heard that also.  They have MySQL and SQL Server, for more $$$.  I also
would have to learn them, which would take time.  I was hoping to put off
moving to a "real" engine after I had a site that might drive some traffic.
I may have to change my plans.

Thanks
Andy

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From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:32 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Urgent: Performance Help


Your problem might lie with Access - I've had plenty of problems with
Access and ColdFusion - especially with keeping threads open and bogging
down the system - and always on servers that handle many simultaneous
requests.  Can you use a different database with them?  PostgreSQL?  SQL
Server?  MySQL?

- Jim

Andy Ousterhout wrote:

>No, don't recommend Viagrathe problem is I just won't stop.
>
>My ISP is accusing me of writing code that keeps threads open long after
they
>should be closed and are threatening to shut down my site.  Good news is
that
>I don't have many users yet, Bad news is that they can't give me any
details
>because they don't have their analytical software, Cognos, up yet.
>
>Is there a site anywhere that can help we walk through my code and try to
>figure out what the problem is?  Running MX and Microsoft Access.  It runs
>fine as a single user on my PC.
>
>Thanks for anything you can give me
>
>Andy
>
>
>


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Re: Urgent: Performance Help

2003-09-17 Thread Jim Campbell
It's interesting they'd charge you more for MySQL than Access (since I 
assume they'll have more tech support issues with Access ;)

However, MySQL is not that hard to learn.  You don't have transactional 
support nor real foreign keys, etc.  There are a number of differences 
that we've discussed before on this list, and you should be able to pick 
them up for the archives.

SQL Server might be a better choice - it should be able to recognize 
your tables/datatypes from Access without any problems, and if you're 
using things like transactions, the migration should be fairly 
painless.  _Fairly_ painless, not necessarily totally painless.

Best of luck.

- Jim

Andy Ousterhout wrote:

>Jim,
>I've asked them to look specifically at the Access connection, because I
>have heard that also.  They have MySQL and SQL Server, for more $$$.  I also
>would have to learn them, which would take time.  I was hoping to put off
>moving to a "real" engine after I had a site that might drive some traffic.
>I may have to change my plans.
>
>Thanks
>Andy
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:32 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: Urgent: Performance Help
>
>
>Your problem might lie with Access - I've had plenty of problems with
>Access and ColdFusion - especially with keeping threads open and bogging
>down the system - and always on servers that handle many simultaneous
>requests.  Can you use a different database with them?  PostgreSQL?  SQL
>Server?  MySQL?
>
>- Jim
>
>Andy Ousterhout wrote:
>
>  
>
>>No, don't recommend Viagrathe problem is I just won't stop.
>>
>>My ISP is accusing me of writing code that keeps threads open long after
>>
>>
>they
>  
>
>>should be closed and are threatening to shut down my site.  Good news is
>>
>>
>that
>  
>
>>I don't have many users yet, Bad news is that they can't give me any
>>
>>
>details
>  
>
>>because they don't have their analytical software, Cognos, up yet.
>>
>>Is there a site anywhere that can help we walk through my code and try to
>>figure out what the problem is?  Running MX and Microsoft Access.  It runs
>>fine as a single user on my PC.
>>
>>Thanks for anything you can give me
>>
>>Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Urgent: Performance Help

2003-09-17 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Andy Ousterhout wrote:
> 
> My ISP is accusing me of writing code that keeps threads open long after they
> should be closed and are threatening to shut down my site.  Good news is that
> I don't have many users yet, Bad news is that they can't give me any details
> because they don't have their analytical software, Cognos, up yet.

Then how can they tell it is your site that is keeping threads 
open? Please ask them how they found that out, it may be 
important to solving the issue.


> Is there a site anywhere that can help we walk through my code and try to
> figure out what the problem is?  Running MX and Microsoft Access.  It runs
> fine as a single user on my PC.

Does Access use persisent connections? Which driver are they 
using for Access?

Jochem



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Re: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB

2003-09-17 Thread Jim Campbell
Sounds like it might be client variables in the DB - that's the first 
thing I'd check.

- Jim

Mark W. Breneman wrote:

>I just got back from a client site and they are running CF5 and MS
>access.  
>The problem is that the MSAccess file grows at least 5 MB per min. thus
>filling the hard disk.  I was able to do a simple compact with access
>and the file shrunk from 2 GB to 5 MB, but soon after started to grow
>again.
>
>Has anyone seen this before?
>
>I assume that since I can shrink the database to 5 MB then it is not
>real data that is taking up the 2gb of space.
>
>Anyone have any ideas?
>
>I found that if reset CF it took about 15mins for the growing to start.
>
>Thanks
>
>Mark W. Breneman
>-Cold Fusion Developer
>-Network Administrator
>  Vivid Media
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  www.vividmedia.com
>  608.270.9770 
>
>
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Re: Eolas, Flash et al

2003-09-17 Thread Matt Liotta
The W3C has a mailing list setup for this issue and the meeting 
announcement was posted to that mailing list.

-Matt

On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 04:46 PM, Matt Robertson wrote:

> Just came across this 
> on-topic-insofar-as-MM/Flash/CF/The-Future-is-concerned subject.
>
> http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/dailysucker/
>
> Not looking to spark another debate, but this mentions a MM/MS meeting 
> I hadn't heard about, and I assume I'm not alone on that score
>
> --
> ---
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RE: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB

2003-09-17 Thread Mark W. Breneman
No, we are only using session vars.

Mark W. Breneman
-Cold Fusion Developer
-Network Administrator
  Vivid Media
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  608.270.9770

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Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB

Are they storing client variables in the DB?

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-Original Message-
From: Mark W. Breneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 4:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB


I just got back from a client site and they are running CF5 and MS
access.  
The problem is that the MSAccess file grows at least 5 MB per min. thus
filling the hard disk.  I was able to do a simple compact with access
and the file shrunk from 2 GB to 5 MB, but soon after started to grow
again.

Has anyone seen this before?

I assume that since I can shrink the database to 5 MB then it is not
real data that is taking up the 2gb of space.

Anyone have any ideas?

I found that if reset CF it took about 15mins for the growing to start.

Thanks

Mark W. Breneman
-Cold Fusion Developer
-Network Administrator
  Vivid Media
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.vividmedia.com
  608.270.9770 



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RE: Urgent: Performance Help

2003-09-17 Thread Andy Ousterhout
That seems to be the consensus.  I knew this going in, but thought that I
could get some of my site out first, then change.  This may not be
possible...

Andy

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access has been known at some point (amount of connections or maybe
lines in the database)
to hose up, what that means? not sure, but I know this, if at all
possible, STAY AWAY FROM ACCESS

tony

tony weeg
sr. web applications architect
navtrak, inc.
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office 410.548.2337
fax 410.860.2337


-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 4:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Urgent: Performance Help


No, don't recommend Viagrathe problem is I just won't stop.

My ISP is accusing me of writing code that keeps threads open long after
they should be closed and are threatening to shut down my site.  Good
news is that I don't have many users yet, Bad news is that they can't
give me any details because they don't have their analytical software,
Cognos, up yet.

Is there a site anywhere that can help we walk through my code and try
to figure out what the problem is?  Running MX and Microsoft Access.  It
runs fine as a single user on my PC.

Thanks for anything you can give me

Andy




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RE: Urgent: Performance Help

2003-09-17 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Access database is 15 tables and 15 Meg.  Pretty small right now.  And I
just compressed it last night.  Very few inserts,updates and deletes right
now, mostly view.

I'll ask them to monitor the DB connections

Thanks,
Andy

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Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:32 PM
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Show do they know its you if they can't prove it?
One guess is that they may be view database connections from perfmon
which may be pointing to your domain. How big is your access DB?


Dan Phillips
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-Original Message-
From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 4:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Urgent: Performance Help


No, don't recommend Viagrathe problem is I just won't stop.

My ISP is accusing me of writing code that keeps threads open long after
they should be closed and are threatening to shut down my site.  Good
news is that I don't have many users yet, Bad news is that they can't
give me any details because they don't have their analytical software,
Cognos, up yet.

Is there a site anywhere that can help we walk through my code and try
to figure out what the problem is?  Running MX and Microsoft Access.  It
runs fine as a single user on my PC.

Thanks for anything you can give me

Andy




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RE: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB

2003-09-17 Thread Dan Phillips \(CFXHosting.com\)
Are they storing client variables in the DB?

Dan Phillips
www.CFXHosting.com 
1-866-239-4678
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Mark W. Breneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 4:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB


I just got back from a client site and they are running CF5 and MS
access.  
The problem is that the MSAccess file grows at least 5 MB per min. thus
filling the hard disk.  I was able to do a simple compact with access
and the file shrunk from 2 GB to 5 MB, but soon after started to grow
again.

Has anyone seen this before?

I assume that since I can shrink the database to 5 MB then it is not
real data that is taking up the 2gb of space.

Anyone have any ideas?

I found that if reset CF it took about 15mins for the growing to start.

Thanks

Mark W. Breneman
-Cold Fusion Developer
-Network Administrator
  Vivid Media
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.vividmedia.com
  608.270.9770 


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RE: Urgent: Performance Help

2003-09-17 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Jim,
I've asked them to look specifically at the Access connection, because I
have heard that also.  They have MySQL and SQL Server, for more $$$.  I also
would have to learn them, which would take time.  I was hoping to put off
moving to a "real" engine after I had a site that might drive some traffic.
I may have to change my plans.

Thanks
Andy

-Original Message-
From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:32 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Urgent: Performance Help


Your problem might lie with Access - I've had plenty of problems with
Access and ColdFusion - especially with keeping threads open and bogging
down the system - and always on servers that handle many simultaneous
requests.  Can you use a different database with them?  PostgreSQL?  SQL
Server?  MySQL?

- Jim

Andy Ousterhout wrote:

>No, don't recommend Viagrathe problem is I just won't stop.
>
>My ISP is accusing me of writing code that keeps threads open long after
they
>should be closed and are threatening to shut down my site.  Good news is
that
>I don't have many users yet, Bad news is that they can't give me any
details
>because they don't have their analytical software, Cognos, up yet.
>
>Is there a site anywhere that can help we walk through my code and try to
>figure out what the problem is?  Running MX and Microsoft Access.  It runs
>fine as a single user on my PC.
>
>Thanks for anything you can give me
>
>Andy
>
>
>

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Help: CF5 is making access file grow to 2GB

2003-09-17 Thread Mark W. Breneman
I just got back from a client site and they are running CF5 and MS
access.  
The problem is that the MSAccess file grows at least 5 MB per min. thus
filling the hard disk.  I was able to do a simple compact with access
and the file shrunk from 2 GB to 5 MB, but soon after started to grow
again.

Has anyone seen this before?

I assume that since I can shrink the database to 5 MB then it is not
real data that is taking up the 2gb of space.

Anyone have any ideas?

I found that if reset CF it took about 15mins for the growing to start.

Thanks

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-Cold Fusion Developer
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Eolas, Flash et al

2003-09-17 Thread Matt Robertson
Just came across this on-topic-insofar-as-MM/Flash/CF/The-Future-is-concerned subject.

http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/dailysucker/

Not looking to spark another debate, but this mentions a MM/MS meeting I hadn't heard 
about, and I assume I'm not alone on that score

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Re: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Matt Liotta
> Are you concerned about recovering the data on the machine? If so,
> installing Linux won't necessarily help you (especially if you end up
> repartitioning or reformatting). You might want to try NT Locksmith 
> and/or
> NT Recover:
>
Assuming NTFS wasn't used then the file system could be accessed 
directly from Linux without issue.

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Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Doug White
Webmin (and usermin) should work with any Linux distro - but to be sure, read
the docs on sourceforge



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- Original Message - 
From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice


| Can WebAdmin work with other GUIs (i.e. could I have Mandrake with X Windows
| installed and still use WebAdmin)?
|
| Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
| VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
| Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
| t. 250.920.8830
| e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|
| -
| Macromedia Associate Partner
| www.macromedia.com
| -
| Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
| Founder & Director
| www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
| - Original Message -
| From: "Doug White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:59 PM
| Subject: Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice
|
|
| > RedHat 9.0 is in wide use and is supported by CFMX 6.1
| >
| > Purchasing the package for about $39.00 at Best Buy will give you free
| support
| > and updates (which seem to come about as often as the ones from
| Microsoft.)
| >
| > When doing the install, be sure to install KDE desktop if you are wanting
| a GUI
| > to work with.  Or if you are wanting to maintain it remotely, install
| Webmin.
| >
| > ==
| > Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway!
| > For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com
| > Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases.
| > ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772
| > Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy:
| http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf
| > ==
| > If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done!
| >
| > - Original Message -
| > From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:23 PM
| > Subject: Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice
| >
| >
| > | Thanks Matt
| > |
| > | So what's the current RedHat version that is stable? where can I grab a
| > | copy?
| > |
| > | Is it installed from a  floppy/CD at boot up?
| > |
| > | I promise to RTFM after I get the dang thing ;-)
| > |
| > | Cheers
| > |
| > | Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
| > | VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
| > | Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
| > | t. 250.920.8830
| > | e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| > |
| > | -
| > | Macromedia Associate Partner
| > | www.macromedia.com
| > | -
| > | Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
| > | Founder & Director
| > | www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
| > | - Original Message -
| > | From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > | To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > | Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:14 PM
| > | Subject: Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice
| > |
| > |
| > | > > So can I simply install Linux over Windows (i.e. from boot up)? or
| do
| > | > > I have
| > | > > to wipe the drive first (FDisk)?
| > | > >
| > | > Yes, you can simply install Linux over Windows assuming you don't want
| > | > access to any of the data on the hard drive.
| > | >
| > | > > What do you Linux folks recommend for a Linux package to install
| (i.e.
| > | > > RedHat version...Mandrake etc.)?  Bear in mind I know very little
| about
| > | > > Linux and I don't want to play the command line game.  So a package
| > | > > that has
| > | > > a decent GUI would be nice (I've seen and played a bit with X
| > | > > Windows...seemed nice...but what do I know...hehe).
| > | > >
| > | > I always recommend RedHat to people since it is the most widely used
| > | > distribution and thus it is easier to get help from others with. After
| > | > you become more familiar with Linux in general then you can start
| > | > worrying about why you would choose one distribution over the others.
| > | >
| > | > Matt Liotta
| > | > President & CEO
| > | > Montara Software, Inc.
| > | > http://www.MontaraSoftware.com
| > | > (888) 408-0900 x901
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| >
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RE: Urgent: Performance Help

2003-09-17 Thread paris lundis
Access tends to 'abandon' connections... a fair amount of memory loss with any large 
usage on a server.. Access isn't good at all for shared hosting company 
environments... Easy way to hose a server...

Find out if they have your DSN maintaining connections ... depending on the 
application you will or won't want to enable maintain connections... I have found that 
if your are doing lots of database activity to leave it on with Access...

There is also the timeout to maintain DSN connection... try putting that at 1-5 
minutes.. probably set at 0 default now...

-paris

-- Original Message --
From: "Tony Weeg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Wed, 17 Sep 2003 16:33:45 -0400

>access has been known at some point (amount of connections or maybe
>lines in the database)
>to hose up, what that means? not sure, but I know this, if at all
>possible, STAY AWAY FROM ACCESS
>
>tony
>
>tony weeg
>sr. web applications architect
>navtrak, inc.
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>www.navtrak.net
>office 410.548.2337
>fax 410.860.2337
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 4:24 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Urgent: Performance Help
>
>
>No, don't recommend Viagrathe problem is I just won't stop.
>
>My ISP is accusing me of writing code that keeps threads open long after
>they should be closed and are threatening to shut down my site.  Good
>news is that I don't have many users yet, Bad news is that they can't
>give me any details because they don't have their analytical software,
>Cognos, up yet.
>
>Is there a site anywhere that can help we walk through my code and try
>to figure out what the problem is?  Running MX and Microsoft Access.  It
>runs fine as a single user on my PC.
>
>Thanks for anything you can give me
>
>Andy
>
>
>
>
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RE: Urgent: Performance Help

2003-09-17 Thread Dan Phillips \(CFXHosting.com\)
Show do they know its you if they can't prove it? 
One guess is that they may be view database connections from perfmon
which may be pointing to your domain. How big is your access DB? 


Dan Phillips
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-Original Message-
From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 4:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Urgent: Performance Help


No, don't recommend Viagrathe problem is I just won't stop.

My ISP is accusing me of writing code that keeps threads open long after
they should be closed and are threatening to shut down my site.  Good
news is that I don't have many users yet, Bad news is that they can't
give me any details because they don't have their analytical software,
Cognos, up yet.

Is there a site anywhere that can help we walk through my code and try
to figure out what the problem is?  Running MX and Microsoft Access.  It
runs fine as a single user on my PC.

Thanks for anything you can give me

Andy



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RE: Urgent: Performance Help

2003-09-17 Thread Tony Weeg
access has been known at some point (amount of connections or maybe
lines in the database)
to hose up, what that means? not sure, but I know this, if at all
possible, STAY AWAY FROM ACCESS

tony

tony weeg
sr. web applications architect
navtrak, inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.navtrak.net
office 410.548.2337
fax 410.860.2337


-Original Message-
From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 4:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Urgent: Performance Help


No, don't recommend Viagrathe problem is I just won't stop.

My ISP is accusing me of writing code that keeps threads open long after
they should be closed and are threatening to shut down my site.  Good
news is that I don't have many users yet, Bad news is that they can't
give me any details because they don't have their analytical software,
Cognos, up yet.

Is there a site anywhere that can help we walk through my code and try
to figure out what the problem is?  Running MX and Microsoft Access.  It
runs fine as a single user on my PC.

Thanks for anything you can give me

Andy



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RE: OT: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Dave Watts
> Can WebAdmin work with other GUIs (i.e. could I have Mandrake 
> with X Windows installed and still use WebAdmin)?

Yes, it does.

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RE: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Dave Watts
> One big issue is the passwords for this box have been lost.

Are you concerned about recovering the data on the machine? If so,
installing Linux won't necessarily help you (especially if you end up
repartitioning or reformatting). You might want to try NT Locksmith and/or
NT Recover:

http://www.winternals.com/

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Re: Urgent: Performance Help

2003-09-17 Thread Jim Campbell
Your problem might lie with Access - I've had plenty of problems with 
Access and ColdFusion - especially with keeping threads open and bogging 
down the system - and always on servers that handle many simultaneous 
requests.  Can you use a different database with them?  PostgreSQL?  SQL 
Server?  MySQL?

- Jim

Andy Ousterhout wrote:

>No, don't recommend Viagrathe problem is I just won't stop.
>
>My ISP is accusing me of writing code that keeps threads open long after they
>should be closed and are threatening to shut down my site.  Good news is that
>I don't have many users yet, Bad news is that they can't give me any details
>because they don't have their analytical software, Cognos, up yet.
>
>Is there a site anywhere that can help we walk through my code and try to
>figure out what the problem is?  Running MX and Microsoft Access.  It runs
>fine as a single user on my PC.
>
>Thanks for anything you can give me
>
>Andy
>
>
>
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Urgent: Performance Help

2003-09-17 Thread Andy Ousterhout
No, don't recommend Viagrathe problem is I just won't stop.

My ISP is accusing me of writing code that keeps threads open long after they
should be closed and are threatening to shut down my site.  Good news is that
I don't have many users yet, Bad news is that they can't give me any details
because they don't have their analytical software, Cognos, up yet.

Is there a site anywhere that can help we walk through my code and try to
figure out what the problem is?  Running MX and Microsoft Access.  It runs
fine as a single user on my PC.

Thanks for anything you can give me

Andy


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Re: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Marc A. Garrett
Bryan,

Overall, I found SuSE 8.2 to be the easiest to install on an older machine.
I'm a complete Linux newbie and didn't want to fool with the comand line
during installation. SuSE install was straightforward and went without any
hitches. It even recognized my windows network connection and DHCP and I can
surf the net without any additional configuration.

Others I tried:

- I could install Mandrake 7.2, but it didn't recognize the D-Link
DFE-530TX+ (my ethernet card). I found a Linux driver but coudn't really
follow the install instructions, so I bailed out.
- I couldn't install RedHat 9.1 because it didn't seem to work with my video
card. My computer is old enough that I don't even have an AGP port. So
RedHat 9.1 was out of the question (although I installed it on my laptop
without issue).

I picked SuSE because it had a reputation for ease of installation and it
supposedly will support CFMX 6.1, although I have not tried installing CF
yet.

Hope this helps, from one newb to another. Oh yeah, I installed Linux right
over Windows 98 -- it wipes the drive.

-- 
Marc A. Garrett
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>
>
> So can I simply install Linux over Windows (i.e. from boot up)? or do I
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> to wipe the drive first (FDisk)?


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Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Can WebAdmin work with other GUIs (i.e. could I have Mandrake with X Windows
installed and still use WebAdmin)?

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-
Macromedia Associate Partner
www.macromedia.com
-
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Founder & Director
www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
- Original Message -
From: "Doug White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice


> RedHat 9.0 is in wide use and is supported by CFMX 6.1
>
> Purchasing the package for about $39.00 at Best Buy will give you free
support
> and updates (which seem to come about as often as the ones from
Microsoft.)
>
> When doing the install, be sure to install KDE desktop if you are wanting
a GUI
> to work with.  Or if you are wanting to maintain it remotely, install
Webmin.
>
> ==
> Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway!
> For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com
> Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases.
> ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772
> Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy:
http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf
> ==
> If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done!
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:23 PM
> Subject: Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice
>
>
> | Thanks Matt
> |
> | So what's the current RedHat version that is stable? where can I grab a
> | copy?
> |
> | Is it installed from a  floppy/CD at boot up?
> |
> | I promise to RTFM after I get the dang thing ;-)
> |
> | Cheers
> |
> | Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> | VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> | Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> | t. 250.920.8830
> | e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> |
> | -
> | Macromedia Associate Partner
> | www.macromedia.com
> | -
> | Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> | Founder & Director
> | www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> | - Original Message -
> | From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:14 PM
> | Subject: Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice
> |
> |
> | > > So can I simply install Linux over Windows (i.e. from boot up)? or
do
> | > > I have
> | > > to wipe the drive first (FDisk)?
> | > >
> | > Yes, you can simply install Linux over Windows assuming you don't want
> | > access to any of the data on the hard drive.
> | >
> | > > What do you Linux folks recommend for a Linux package to install
(i.e.
> | > > RedHat version...Mandrake etc.)?  Bear in mind I know very little
about
> | > > Linux and I don't want to play the command line game.  So a package
> | > > that has
> | > > a decent GUI would be nice (I've seen and played a bit with X
> | > > Windows...seemed nice...but what do I know...hehe).
> | > >
> | > I always recommend RedHat to people since it is the most widely used
> | > distribution and thus it is easier to get help from others with. After
> | > you become more familiar with Linux in general then you can start
> | > worrying about why you would choose one distribution over the others.
> | >
> | > Matt Liotta
> | > President & CEO
> | > Montara Software, Inc.
> | > http://www.MontaraSoftware.com
> | > (888) 408-0900 x901
> | >
> | >
> | >
> |
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Re: advice

2003-09-17 Thread Michael Dinowitz
OK, well past time for this thread to head over to CF-Community.
Thanks
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RE: advice

2003-09-17 Thread J E VanOver
Okay guys -- this thread has gone on long enough.  Time to kill it, please.

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Subject: Re: advice


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> That is why I did specify  American Pizza ;o)
>
Yes, but using the word pizza for "that thing" should be illegal :-)))

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Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Doug White
RedHat 9.0 is in wide use and is supported by CFMX 6.1

Purchasing the package for about $39.00 at Best Buy will give you free support
and updates (which seem to come about as often as the ones from Microsoft.)

When doing the install, be sure to install KDE desktop if you are wanting a GUI
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| Thanks Matt
|
| So what's the current RedHat version that is stable? where can I grab a
| copy?
|
| Is it installed from a  floppy/CD at boot up?
|
| I promise to RTFM after I get the dang thing ;-)
|
| Cheers
|
| Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
| VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
| Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
| t. 250.920.8830
| e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| - Original Message -
| From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:14 PM
| Subject: Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice
|
|
| > > So can I simply install Linux over Windows (i.e. from boot up)? or do
| > > I have
| > > to wipe the drive first (FDisk)?
| > >
| > Yes, you can simply install Linux over Windows assuming you don't want
| > access to any of the data on the hard drive.
| >
| > > What do you Linux folks recommend for a Linux package to install (i.e.
| > > RedHat version...Mandrake etc.)?  Bear in mind I know very little about
| > > Linux and I don't want to play the command line game.  So a package
| > > that has
| > > a decent GUI would be nice (I've seen and played a bit with X
| > > Windows...seemed nice...but what do I know...hehe).
| > >
| > I always recommend RedHat to people since it is the most widely used
| > distribution and thus it is easier to get help from others with. After
| > you become more familiar with Linux in general then you can start
| > worrying about why you would choose one distribution over the others.
| >
| > Matt Liotta
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RE: SSL / Flash Remoting / CFMX

2003-09-17 Thread chris petersen
I've got a site running using SSL/remoting/CFMX, no problems.. 

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Any issues here? Has anyone done this yet?

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Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Dave Carabetta
> > So what's the current RedHat version that is stable? where can I grab a
> > copy?
> >
>I am currently sticking with RedHat 7.x myself. You could download the
>ISOs directly from RedHat's FTP and just burn them to CD if you want.
>You can also buy directly from RedHat, which has the advantage of free
>technical support.
>

Just to take Matt's 7.x endorsement one step further, if you plan to use CF 
on this machine, you will need to have RedHat 7.2 (or earlier) to use Verity 
because of the Verity binary version restrictions. While CFMX 6.1 officially 
supports later versions of RedHat, Verity is not.

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Re: Using data from HTTP post

2003-09-17 Thread Matt Liotta
> My problem is I don't know how to use their data. I've worked with http
> post/variables, but never with raw data. If someone has any idea how to
> start me off in the right direction, I'd greatly appreciate it.
>
One trick you might be interested in is turning that data into XML so 
it is easily used from CF. 
http://archive.devx.com/java/free/articles/ml040802/ml040802-1.asp is 
an article I wrote on how to do this with CSV files.

> I was thinking I could build a struct or array with this, splitting
> lines with / & line breaks, and determining item[x] of each line by the
> spaces. I just don't know how to get at the data to manipulate it since
> its not being passed as a named variable (like a form).
>
You would use GetHTTPRequestData(), which returns a struct containing 
everything --including RAW request data-- from the request.

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RE: advice

2003-09-17 Thread Greg Luce
Kris,
No, not France! Anywhere but France. :-) 

Also, don't go getting yourself one of those Mad-Cow burgers
over there. Stick with pork in Europe (they don't have trichinosis [sp?]
over there so you can eat it medium-rare).

On the pizza thing, any of you Euro-pizza-purists ever had
Chicago style? Try it before you condemn American pizza.

Greg

-Original Message-
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Subject: RE: advice

So the beef in europe is not as good in US huh?  I am going for final
semester of my MBA so I will fo in Feb tehn graduate in france on july
8th



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Was in the Army and lived a total of 9 yrs in Europe. I loved it.

3 in Germany and 6 in Netherlands.

Wish I could have spent more time there.

Would recommend it to anyone that can live on food other than American
Pizza and Cheeseburgers ;o)

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Yeah that's what im thinking, its only 6 months

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I've worked overseas in Switzerland.

I would strongly recommend doing it. If anything for the experience.

> -Original Message-
> From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 17 September 2003 14:46
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: advice
>
>
> Anyone on the list ever study/work /been overseas Trying to make a

> decsion about finishing my MBA overseas and wanted to speak to someone

> who has done it
>
> Kris Pilles
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Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Matt Liotta
> So what's the current RedHat version that is stable? where can I grab a
> copy?
>
I am currently sticking with RedHat 7.x myself. You could download the 
ISOs directly from RedHat's FTP and just burn them to CD if you want. 
You can also buy directly from RedHat, which has the advantage of free 
technical support.

> Is it installed from a  floppy/CD at boot up?
>
Most of the current distributions boot up from CDs. Further, they tend 
to provide floppy images on the CD in case you need to create a floppy 
for machines that can't boot from CD.

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Using data from HTTP post

2003-09-17 Thread chris petersen
Hello all,

A site I am working on is going to feature some live data feeds from a
3rd party. The third party has their system setup to send data via http
post, and they want a url to send to. 

My problem is I don't know how to use their data. I've worked with http
post/variables, but never with raw data. If someone has any idea how to
start me off in the right direction, I'd greatly appreciate it. 

The data sample provided:

 1 #CSXTSWSAM010309120845/
 2 CLMDFR CSXT DJJOSE03091208DJC
 3 ACFX 11 BERKELEY  SC 09 12 0641 L W  TOLEDOOH
 4 ACRX 11 CASHAYNE  NC 09 11 1339 E W  BERKELEY  SC
 5 BNSF 11 CUMBERLAN MD 09 12 0730 L A   Q14811 BALTIMORE MD
 6 CSXT 11 THOMASVIL GA 09 12 0745 L A   Q54511 BERKELEY  SC
 7 CSXT 11 CALERAAL 09 11 2230 L P   Q68111 BERKELEY  SC
 8 CSXT 11 CHARLESTO SC 09 11 2315 L P   F74611 BERKELEY  SC
 9 CSXT 11 CHARLESTO SC 09 11 2315 L P   F74611 BERKELEY  SC
10 CSXT 11 THOMASVIL GA 09 12 0745 L A   Q54511 BERKELEY  SC
11 CSXT 11 WAYCROSS  GA 09 12 0820 L A   Q68110 BERKELEY  SC
12 CSXT 11 CHARLESTO SC 09 11 2315 L P   F74611 BERKELEY  SC
13 CSXT 11 CHARLESTO SC 09 11 2315 L P   F74611 BERKELEY  SC
14 CSXT 11 CALERAAL 09 11 2230 L P   Q68111 BERKELEY  SC
15 CSXT 11 WAYCROSS  GA 09 12 0820 L A   Q68110 BERKELEY  SC

I was thinking I could build a struct or array with this, splitting
lines with / & line breaks, and determining item[x] of each line by the
spaces. I just don't know how to get at the data to manipulate it since
its not being passed as a named variable (like a form).

Thanks in advance,

Chris


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Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Jim Campbell
Bryan,

As a Linux Newbie, I'd recommend you look at Mandrake for this first toe 
in the water.  Mandrake is very friendly to noobs, and you'll be able to 
get up and running in no time.  RedHat is better known, and their 
installer gets better and better with each iteration, but I think 
Mandrake will be a little more forgiving :)

Not to knock RedHat, though.  I've had version 8 running on an old 
Compaq Presario minitower for a year with no reboots, except for when I 
moved and had to power down for a few days.

- Jim

Bryan Stevenson wrote:

>Thanks Matt
>
>So what's the current RedHat version that is stable? where can I grab a
>copy?
>
>Is it installed from a  floppy/CD at boot up?
>
>I promise to RTFM after I get the dang thing ;-)
>
>Cheers
>
>Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
>VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
>Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
>t. 250.920.8830
>e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>-
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>www.macromedia.com
>-
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>Founder & Director
>www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
>- Original Message -
>From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:14 PM
>Subject: Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice
>
>
>  
>
>>>So can I simply install Linux over Windows (i.e. from boot up)? or do
>>>I have
>>>to wipe the drive first (FDisk)?
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>Yes, you can simply install Linux over Windows assuming you don't want
>>access to any of the data on the hard drive.
>>
>>
>>
>>>What do you Linux folks recommend for a Linux package to install (i.e.
>>>RedHat version...Mandrake etc.)?  Bear in mind I know very little about
>>>Linux and I don't want to play the command line game.  So a package
>>>that has
>>>a decent GUI would be nice (I've seen and played a bit with X
>>>Windows...seemed nice...but what do I know...hehe).
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>I always recommend RedHat to people since it is the most widely used
>>distribution and thus it is easier to get help from others with. After
>>you become more familiar with Linux in general then you can start
>>worrying about why you would choose one distribution over the others.
>>
>>Matt Liotta
>>President & CEO
>>Montara Software, Inc.
>>http://www.MontaraSoftware.com
>>(888) 408-0900 x901
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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RE: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Douglas.Knudsen
hippy stuff?  LOL!  I guess a proper introduction to this would be RTFM!  Ha!

Yeah, you should be able to grab redhat, mandrake, etc and install right over your 
windows install.  The installers usually run a proggy to partition/format your drive 
and all.  What flavour to use?  Try them all and settle on the one you like.  Redhat 
is fairly popular, a good start probably.  I've been a Slackware fan myself, but 
that's real old skool hippy like I suppose.  http://linuxiso.org for all of them.  
Have fun!

Doug

>-Original Message-
>From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:09 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: OT: Linux Newbie Advice
>
>
>Hey All,
>
>OK...so I'm going to give this open source hippie stuff a whirl ;-)
>
>I have an old AMD K6-2 400 MHz box with Win2K Pro currently installed
>
>One big issue is the passwords for this box have been lost.
>
>So can I simply install Linux over Windows (i.e. from boot 
>up)? or do I have
>to wipe the drive first (FDisk)?
>
>What do you Linux folks recommend for a Linux package to install (i.e.
>RedHat version...Mandrake etc.)?  Bear in mind I know very little about
>Linux and I don't want to play the command line game.  So a 
>package that has
>a decent GUI would be nice (I've seen and played a bit with X
>Windows...seemed nice...but what do I know...hehe).
>
>So at this point...any and all advice is welcome (and feel 
>free to send me
>info offlist).
>
>TIA
>
>Cheers
>
>Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
>VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
>Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
>t. 250.920.8830
>e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Thanks Matt

So what's the current RedHat version that is stable? where can I grab a
copy?

Is it installed from a  floppy/CD at boot up?

I promise to RTFM after I get the dang thing ;-)

Cheers

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
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Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice


> > So can I simply install Linux over Windows (i.e. from boot up)? or do
> > I have
> > to wipe the drive first (FDisk)?
> >
> Yes, you can simply install Linux over Windows assuming you don't want
> access to any of the data on the hard drive.
>
> > What do you Linux folks recommend for a Linux package to install (i.e.
> > RedHat version...Mandrake etc.)?  Bear in mind I know very little about
> > Linux and I don't want to play the command line game.  So a package
> > that has
> > a decent GUI would be nice (I've seen and played a bit with X
> > Windows...seemed nice...but what do I know...hehe).
> >
> I always recommend RedHat to people since it is the most widely used
> distribution and thus it is easier to get help from others with. After
> you become more familiar with Linux in general then you can start
> worrying about why you would choose one distribution over the others.
>
> Matt Liotta
> President & CEO
> Montara Software, Inc.
> http://www.MontaraSoftware.com
> (888) 408-0900 x901
>
>
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Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Matt Liotta
> So can I simply install Linux over Windows (i.e. from boot up)? or do 
> I have
> to wipe the drive first (FDisk)?
>
Yes, you can simply install Linux over Windows assuming you don't want 
access to any of the data on the hard drive.

> What do you Linux folks recommend for a Linux package to install (i.e.
> RedHat version...Mandrake etc.)?  Bear in mind I know very little about
> Linux and I don't want to play the command line game.  So a package 
> that has
> a decent GUI would be nice (I've seen and played a bit with X
> Windows...seemed nice...but what do I know...hehe).
>
I always recommend RedHat to people since it is the most widely used 
distribution and thus it is easier to get help from others with. After 
you become more familiar with Linux in general then you can start 
worrying about why you would choose one distribution over the others.

Matt Liotta
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OT: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Hey All,

OK...so I'm going to give this open source hippie stuff a whirl ;-)

I have an old AMD K6-2 400 MHz box with Win2K Pro currently installed

One big issue is the passwords for this box have been lost.

So can I simply install Linux over Windows (i.e. from boot up)? or do I have
to wipe the drive first (FDisk)?

What do you Linux folks recommend for a Linux package to install (i.e.
RedHat version...Mandrake etc.)?  Bear in mind I know very little about
Linux and I don't want to play the command line game.  So a package that has
a decent GUI would be nice (I've seen and played a bit with X
Windows...seemed nice...but what do I know...hehe).

So at this point...any and all advice is welcome (and feel free to send me
info offlist).

TIA

Cheers

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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cfcookie and browser back button - causes page refresh - help?

2003-09-17 Thread Aunger, Mitch
Hi y'all
 
I have a new issue that has me stumped. Maybe if i talk it out, someone will know the 
answer.
 
I have a CFMX include (tho the same thing probably happens in a CF5 environment tho i 
haven't gone back and tested it) that i'm using to create a popcorn trail at the top 
of all the pages in my site. We opted to use cookies to do this (yes, there are a 
million other ways)... and i've recently discovered this is causing a problem.
 
There is something in the code shown at the bottom of this note that is causing my 
problem. If I leave the code uncommented, the code executes and cookies are properly 
created -- yet if i use the browser back key on any page, the previous page (which 
also executes the same code) re-executes - even tho the traditional back button action 
is to just display the page as it was. The real problem occurs when the previous page 
was a form - the refresh forces all of the user entered data to be lost and I don't 
want that to happen!
 
If I comment out the code, everything works ok (tho the popcorn trail obviously isn't 
created) - but the back button in the browser does NOT cause the page to refresh 
automatically.
 
Does anyone know WHY this code would cause the browser to force a page refresh in both 
IE5.5 and NS 4.73?? (Stuck there due to work requirements - can't go to newer 
browsers - sorry I can't share a link with the group - 'tiz inside a firewall) 
 
Here's the code that seems to be the problem:
 
cfif get_page.menuLevel eq 1>
  

   
   
   
   
   
   
   


   
  
  
   
   
  
 
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RE: advice

2003-09-17 Thread Ryan Kime
Oh you would love it Massimo, one of the major national pizza chains is
running a promotion on a new "pizza concoction". They call it the Philly
Cheese Steak pizza!

:-)

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From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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> Would recommend it to anyone that can live on food other than American 
> Pizza and Cheeseburgers ;o)

Let's be real, what you have there in the USA really shouldn't be called
pizza... It's really very far away from the *real* thing...

I am sorry to sound pedandic, but pizza is clearly the most important
contribution to modern civilization coming from Italy and definitely deserve
a better treatment :-)))

Massimo


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Re: advice

2003-09-17 Thread Massimo Foti
"Bruce, Rodney S HQISEC/Veridian IT Services" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> That is why I did specify  American Pizza ;o)
>
Yes, but using the word pizza for "that thing" should be illegal :-)))

Massimo


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Re: integrating Cybersource credit-card processing

2003-09-17 Thread Matt Liotta
> I'm working on integrating creditcard processing from Cybersource. I 
> work in a mixed environment of Linux and Windows so we're planning on 
> using the Java web services interface. I've managed to get their 
> demonstration web service clients working on the command line, but I'm 
> having trouble with using CFINVOKE to consume their webservice.
>
> I've gotten closest with the NVP (name/value pairs) interface to the 
> web service -- I get something like this:
>  Web service operation "runTransaction" with parameters 
> {INPUT={{MERCHANTID={myId},}},} could not be found.
>
> The XML interface just dies. Anyone done this successfully?
>
I successfully used their Java API.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.MontaraSoftware.com
(888) 408-0900 x901


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integrating Cybersource credit-card processing

2003-09-17 Thread John Paul Ashenfelter
Folks,

I'm working on integrating creditcard processing from Cybersource. I work in a mixed 
environment of Linux and Windows so we're planning on using the Java web services 
interface. I've managed to get their demonstration web service clients working on the 
command line, but I'm having trouble with using CFINVOKE to consume their webservice.

I've gotten closest with the NVP (name/value pairs) interface to the web service -- I 
get something like this:
 Web service operation "runTransaction" with parameters 
{INPUT={{MERCHANTID={myId},}},} could not be found.  

The XML interface just dies. Anyone done this successfully?

Regards,

John Paul Ashenfelter
CTO/Transitionpoint

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SSL / Flash Remoting / CFMX

2003-09-17 Thread Justin Hansen
Any issues here? Has anyone done this yet?
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RE: advice

2003-09-17 Thread Bruce, Rodney S HQISEC/Veridian IT Services
That is why I did specify  American Pizza ;o)

and the beef is just different not better or worse just different



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From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 9:21 AM
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Subject: Re: advice


> Would recommend it to anyone that can live on food other than American
> Pizza and Cheeseburgers ;o)

Let's be real, what you have there in the USA really shouldn't be called
pizza... It's really very far away from the *real* thing...

I am sorry to sound pedandic, but pizza is clearly the most important
contribution to modern civilization coming from Italy and definitely deserve
a better treatment :-)))

Massimo


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OT: N/N Group Conference

2003-09-17 Thread Candace Cottrell
Is anyone going to the Nielson Norman Group User Experience Conference
next week?
 
 
Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer 
The Children's Medical Center 
One Children's Plaza 
Dayton, OH 45404 
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CFMX 6.1 and JRun 4

2003-09-17 Thread Nick de Voil
We have had CFMX and JRun 4 coexisting peacefully on a W2K server for
months, blissfully ignorant of each other. Last week we upgraded CF to 6.1
and now it appears that JRun is interfering with CF somehow. CF was grinding
to a halt on a regular basis until we disabled the services for the JRun
servers. Does anyone know anything about this?

Thanks

Nick



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RE: advice

2003-09-17 Thread Andre Turrettini
Puuuhhhlze!  We've added so much to the genre.  Go to any of the major
american cities (or at least the ones I've lived in) and you'll find pizza
thats pretty close to what you find in italy.  And it only starts there.
Theres so many other wonderful kinds of pizzas that you'll only find in
america. 

DRE

> -Original Message-
> From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:21 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: advice
> 
> 
> > Would recommend it to anyone that can live on food other 
> than American 
> > Pizza and Cheeseburgers ;o)
> 
> Let's be real, what you have there in the USA really 
> shouldn't be called pizza... It's really very far away from 
> the *real* thing...
> 
> I am sorry to sound pedandic, but pizza is clearly the most 
> important contribution to modern civilization coming from 
> Italy and definitely deserve a better treatment :-)))
> 
> Massimo
> 
> 
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Having problem comparing variables and returning the correct results

2003-09-17 Thread Bushy
Hi,

I'm having a problem displaying some directories. Below are two sample variables which 
I get from my database. These are inserted into the database from another 
template that has checkboxes and then once submitted the database gets re-populated. 
That  is not my problem though. It's displaying the directory tree.

There are other variables in my sample which I haven't supplied code for because the 
problem I think is just in my 


#indent#

 




#SESSION.stDirFileName[i]#








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