Re: VMWare was Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
Hey thanks for the feedback, Kay. I'm about to embark on setting up a multi-OS dev box for testing purposes and this helps immensely. If anyone else has any war stories, I'd love to hear them Aaron - Original Message - From: Kay Smoljak To: CF-Talk Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 4:48 PM Subject: Re: VMWare was Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE... On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 23:11:48 -0400, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From what I could tell there's very little real difference in how well they > work: they both (VMWare and VPC) do a damn, damn fine job. I've used both quite a bit too, and the main differences I've found are: - Virtual PC VM's run quite a bit faster than VMWare VM's (Athlon 1800, 1GB RAM) - Virtual PC's networking seems to work much better - setting up a VM as a computer on your network and getting internet access etc seems to work almost automatically. VMWare installs a networking driver on the host machine for this which I've found sometimes interferes with other network settings, plus getting a VMWare VM to work on a local network can be a major PITA. - Virtual PC VM's are very, very, VERY slow to install. VMWare formats virtual hard drives so fast you hardly see the progress bar. Virtual PC takes longer than a real hard drive to do the same thing, and then Windows takes nearly twice as long to install as it would on a "real" machine. - I've had problems running out of virtual hard drive space on Virtual PC, even though the drive was set to expand automatically. I never had that problem with VMWare. Given the price difference (and the fact that we got 10 Virtual PC licences with our last Action Pack) we now use Virtual PC, but if you disregarded that and weighed them on their individual merits, it's hard to pick between them. -- Kay Smoljak http://kay.smoljak.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
ColdFusion and MVC model...
Hi... Please, do you have any tips, tutorials or examples about how to use MVC with CF? JSP haves Struts. And CF? How to separate Code from Presentation? This all for (my) code reuse... Thanx [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: ColdFusion and MVC model...
Go ahead and look at Fusebox. Its a framework for ColdFusion as Struts is a Framework for Java. http://www.fusebox.org You can buy one of two books (or both). Discovering Fusebox 4 http://www.techspedition.com Fusebox and Flip http://www.protonarts.com Sandy _ From: Marco Antonio C. Santos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 7:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: ColdFusion and MVC model... Hi... Please, do you have any tips, tutorials or examples about how to use MVC with CF? JSP haves Struts. And CF? How to separate Code from Presentation? This all for (my) code reuse... Thanx _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: ColdFusion and MVC model...
> Hi... Please, do you have any tips, tutorials or examples > about how to > use MVC with CF? JSP haves Struts. And CF? How to separate > Code from > Presentation? This all for (my) code reuse... > Thanx In addition to Fusebox, which Sandy Clark recommends, there are also several other frameworks. mach-ii http://www.mach-ii.com onTap http://www.turnkey.to/ontap None of them will force you to use an MVC approach, but all of them offer structure for reusing your code. There are also others, but these three are the only frameworks I've worked with personally. s. isaac dealey 954.927.5117 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477&DE=1 http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=45569&DE=1 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: ColdFusion and MVC model...
Thanx Sandy and S. Isaac Dealey. OnTap Framework looks like nice... On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 09:11:01 -0400, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi... Please, do you have any tips, tutorials or examples > > about how to > > use MVC with CF? JSP haves Struts. And CF? How to separate > > Code from > > Presentation? This all for (my) code reuse... > > > Thanx > > In addition to Fusebox, which Sandy Clark recommends, there are also > several other frameworks. > > mach-ii http://www.mach-ii.com > onTap http://www.turnkey.to/ontap > > None of them will force you to use an MVC approach, but all of them > offer structure for reusing your code. > > There are also others, but these three are the only frameworks I've > worked with personally. > > s. isaac dealey 954.927.5117 > > new epoch : isn't it time for a change? > > add features without fixtures with > the onTap open source framework > http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477&DE=1 > http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=45569&DE=1 > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: VMWare was Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
> Two questions -- MS bought Connectix to get VirtualPC -- from what > I've heard, not so much for Mac emulation of PCs, but for PC emulation > of multiple PCs (the old IBM ploy -- If somebody is going to take away > some of our business, it might as well be us!) Yes, that's the impression I have as well. There's apparently a pretty big potential market for server virtualization. The benefit to MS is that they can help their NT 4 customers keep poking along by virtualizing those NT 4 services. > Is VirtualPC a serious competitor to VMWare ($400 seems awfully high > for an emulator). I haven't really used it seriously, but I'm sure it is. That's pretty much all VMware offers - various virtualization products. So, they have to charge a decent amount for it if they want to stay in business. Microsoft, on the other hand, can give it away if they like. > What do you do with VMware that you are using it more often? I use it for all sorts of things. I use it for testing older products - some stuff just doesn't run on Windows Server 2003, for example. I use it for installing and running things I don't really want installed or run on my actual computer, such as viruses and the like. I use it for learning about networking stuff without actually having a network of computers to play with. For example, last week I wanted to learn how to set up the native Windows load-balancer service, but didn't want to actually use two machines to do so - well, I can do that with two concurrent VMware sessions. I also use it to run Linux. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: VMWare was Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
> - Virtual PC's networking seems to work much better - setting up a VM > as a computer on your network and getting internet access etc seems to > work almost automatically. VMWare installs a networking driver on the > host machine for this which I've found sometimes interferes with other > network settings, plus getting a VMWare VM to work on a local network > can be a major PITA. That's odd, because I've never had that problem myself. VMware does give you quite a bit of flexibility with network configuration, though, which is one of the things I like about it. In most cases, I don't want my VMs having direct access to a real network. VMware lets you set up each VM to bridge to a real network directly, or to only be available from the host machine, or to be able to connect to a real network through NAT from the host machine. > Given the price difference (and the fact that we got 10 Virtual PC > licences with our last Action Pack) we now use Virtual PC, but if you > disregarded that and weighed them on their individual merits, it's > hard to pick between them. Yeah, we're probably going to do the same thing, honestly. It's hard to argue with free. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: VMWare was Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
On Jul 17, 2004, at 8:11 PM, Jim Davis wrote: > I'm doing all of my development now off a dual [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 1,5 gig > of RAM > running Windows 2003 and the Virtual Server Beta. With that much RAM > I can > easily run 5 or 6 moderately configured Windows 2000 Servers with > ColdFusion > or SQL Server (or a coupla WebSphere 5 servers). Apart from testing a new/old version during transition, what is the purpose of running multiple servers? I suspect that there is not much performance penalty as VirtualPC doesn't need to emulate a CISC instruction set on a RISC box -- rather just swap in/out native code. > On my workstation I run the VPC 2004 Home edition to test browsers > and other > OSs and such. OK, I understand that, I used to run (alternately) several VirtualPC machines each with a different version of windows because each windows install permitted only one version if IE. But I don't do that anymore I just test on the latest IE on winXP. > Whether you use VMWare or VPC once you get the hang of using > emulation you > just won't go back. You'll find yourself loading up VPCs to browse > the > internet just so that your "real" PC doesn't get infected with any > crap. Ahh,,, the luxury of being the leader. > I > set up one just to run my son's games (since children's games SUCK > and often > screw things up) - the great thing about that is that I can just copy > the > VPC image to the laptop when we go on vacation. OK, That used to happen on the Mac, too. Many of the games were written in OS 9 & required reboot, then, sometimes they would do things to make it difficult to get back to OS X. But, not much of that anymore because it is difficult to exploit the grapphics hardware with the older OS. > In the same way you'll find yourself doing testing on VPCs, then > copying the > disk images to DVD so that you can carry the test environment to the > office > to show somebody how something breaks in just that one scenario. Now, thats creative! So, effectively you are copying the entire machine environment: Web Server AppServer, WebAppServer, db server, Flex, programs and data and client-side browsers & plugins. You could even send the DVD to a colleague across the globe. On a Mac, I use VirtualPC to test applications I develop in the latest WinXP browsers -- don't bother with older browsers and windows versions unless it is specifically requested. Also, there are still a few Win-only programs that I periodically need to use -- some custom apps, but mainly MS-Access. But, I use VPC less and less -- only 2 hours this month. Dick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: VMWare was Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
On Jul 18, 2004, at 7:02 AM, Dave Watts wrote: > > Two questions -- MS bought Connectix to get VirtualPC -- from what > > I've heard, not so much for Mac emulation of PCs, but for PC > emulation > > of multiple PCs (the old IBM ploy -- If somebody is going to take > away > > some of our business, it might as well be us!) > > Yes, that's the impression I have as well. There's apparently a > pretty big > potential market for server virtualization. The benefit to MS is that > they > can help their NT 4 customers keep poking along by virtualizing those > NT 4 > services. So, NT4 (and other older systems) are treated as legacy systems. > > Is VirtualPC a serious competitor to VMWare ($400 seems awfully high > > for an emulator). > > I haven't really used it seriously, but I'm sure it is. That's pretty > much > all VMware offers - various virtualization products. So, they have to > charge > a decent amount for it if they want to stay in business. Microsoft, > on the > other hand, can give it away if they like. > > > What do you do with VMware that you are using it more often? > > I use it for all sorts of things. I use it for testing older products > - some > stuff just doesn't run on Windows Server 2003, for example. Understand! > I use it for > installing and running things I don't really want installed or run on > my > actual computer, such as viruses and the like. OK. Are there any viri that recognize that they are running under emulation and attack out of the bounds of the VM? > I use it for learning about > networking stuff without actually having a network of computers to > play > with. For example, last week I wanted to learn how to set up the > native > Windows load-balancer service, but didn't want to actually use two > machines > to do so - well, I can do that with two concurrent VMware sessions. I > also > use it to run Linux. I see the advantages of this. In fact, I have done something similar on the Mac: VirtualPC running WinXP and OpenLink Software's black box that presents MS-Access as a server on the network. Then a Native CF Mac program makes SQL requests to the MS-Access "server". You can do the same with SQL Server. I would not recommend this for production, but it is an easy way to get access to a client's database in order to replicate it on a native db (Sybase, MySQL, etc). How much of a performance hit do you get running VMWare or vVPC on a PC -- or another way to ask, is it practical to run a production server box or a prodo desktop bo? IF, so, how many can you run -- where do you hit a wall. On the Mac you can only run one VPC VM at at time but you can switch between them in a minute or so. Dick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: VMWare was Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
> So, NT4 (and other older systems) are treated as legacy systems. Yes, that's MS's plan, I think. > Are there any viri that recognize that they are running under > emulation and attack out of the bounds of the VM? There's one that doesn't run correctly within a VM as of last week, according to Slashdot, but I don't see how one could attack outside of the VM without taking advantage of some buffer overflow within the VM software itself. > How much of a performance hit do you get running VMWare or vVPC on a > PC -- or another way to ask, is it practical to run a production server > box or a prodo desktop bo? I run VMware Workstation, and for that, there's a significant performance degradation to the host system, and the VM itself will typically run quite a bit slower than the host system would if it were running the services itself. However, VMware also has two server virtualization products, which allow you to run production servers in virtualization. This is the real reason why MS bought VPC - not for desktop use, but for server virtualization. I'm very interested in this right now, but I don't have any performance data yet. I plan to set up a server virtualization environment for application development soon, though. > IF, so, how many can you run -- where do you hit a wall. On my laptop, I hit a wall at two concurrent VMs, and each of those has to be pretty bare-bones even for that. That's why I want to get a new laptop! Each VM requires a significant amount of memory, and running them concurrently taxes the CPU significantly too. > On the Mac you can only run one VPC VM at at time but you can switch > between them in a minute or so. That would defeat the purpose of virtualization for me, in some cases. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: calling CFC in with dynamic variable - what am I missing here?
No, Get_Phone_Messages() does not call any other method/functions. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: VMWare was Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
> On my laptop, I hit a wall at two concurrent VMs, and each of those has to > be pretty bare-bones even for that. That's why I want to get a new laptop! > Each VM requires a significant amount of memory, and running them > concurrently taxes the CPU significantly too. > While you're getting the new laptop you might need to change the OS as well. Unix-based virtualization has been around for some time and is quite sophisticated. You can easily run hundreds of virtual Linux instances with User Mode Linux on any decent machine. Higher end machines can support thousands. In fact, IBM recently introduced a new like of Power5 machines that give you mainframe level virtualization with AIX or Linux. Personally, I do server virtualization with User Mode Linux and with Linux's rich hardware support, I can use it anywhere including on my Mac. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: VMWare was Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
In my case I've got the following running on dedicated virtual servers: CF MX CF 5 CF 4.5 SQL Server 2000 SQL Server 7 WebSphere 5 Smarter Stats Now I COULD have put (most) of this on one or two boxes, but the level of freedom offered her is immense. When I get a client with CF 4.5 hitting SQL Server 2000 I'm instantly ready to replicate their environment, for example. Also setting up a new machine is as simple as copying the "base" OS image file over and installing software. In other words I didn't have install Windows eight times to get this set up - I installed it once then before installing anything else just copied it seven times. As for performance there's really very little hit that I can see - although the number of VPCs running at the same time can affect this dramatically. However a decent dual-processor system can mitigate that tremendously. RAM is the other big issue - since each VPC needs a set chunk of RAM that will determine how many instance you can run. For most of my development servers (since they're only running one major app) I set the ram to 128 meg. For my CFMX (since it's the one I use the most) I've given it 256 meg and the WebSphere box just isn't happy with less than 512. The OS itself protects around 300-400 meg of RAM (at least Windows 2003 does) so the more RAM the better! Jim Davis From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 10:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: VMWare was Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE... On Jul 17, 2004, at 8:11 PM, Jim Davis wrote: Apart from testing a new/old version during transition, what is the purpose of running multiple servers? I suspect that there is not much performance penalty as VirtualPC doesn't need to emulate a CISC instruction set on a RISC box -- rather just swap in/out native code. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: ColdFusion and MVC model...
> None of them will force you to use an MVC approach, but all of them > offer structure for reusing your code. Mach II comes closest to forcing you to use MVC since it is a direct implementation of the MVC pattern. You write your business logic as CFCs (the model). You write your presentation as simple CFM files (the views). Mach II itself is the controller. Mach II essentially requires you to know some OO techniques. Fusebox 4 can be used in either MVC style or regular procedural style - both ways will help you separate code from presentation (because at the lowest level Fusebox encourages you to have files with only logic in them and separate files with only presentation in them). Fusebox - even in MVC style - doesn't require that you know OO techniques. onTap is a very different system to either of these - it's procedural like Fusebox but where Fusebox's control flow is very explicit, onTap's is completely implicit with the framework choosing which files to execute in what order based on the directory structure you use to store your code. onTap provides the most 'code backup' in terms of a rich API and library functions (Mach II and Fusebox are more about "framework" than "functionality"). [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: calling CFC in with dynamic variable - what am I missing here?
Ok, so what other methods does Display_Tables() call? On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 12:00:54 -0400, Peter Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, Get_Phone_Messages() does not call any other method/functions. > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: ColdFusion and MVC model...
Thanks Sean -- that's a great, concise comparison! :) >> None of them will force you to use an MVC approach, but >> all of them >> offer structure for reusing your code. > Mach II comes closest to forcing you to use MVC since it > is a direct > implementation of the MVC pattern. You write your business > logic as > CFCs (the model). You write your presentation as simple > CFM files (the > views). Mach II itself is the controller. Mach II > essentially requires > you to know some OO techniques. > Fusebox 4 can be used in either MVC style or regular > procedural style > - both ways will help you separate code from presentation > (because at > the lowest level Fusebox encourages you to have files with > only logic > in them and separate files with only presentation in > them). Fusebox - > even in MVC style - doesn't require that you know OO > techniques. > onTap is a very different system to either of these - it's > procedural > like Fusebox but where Fusebox's control flow is very > explicit, > onTap's is completely implicit with the framework choosing > which files > to execute in what order based on the directory structure > you use to > store your code. onTap provides the most 'code backup' in > terms of a > rich API and library functions (Mach II and Fusebox are > more about > "framework" than "functionality"). s. isaac dealey 954.927.5117 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477&DE=1 http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=45569&DE=1 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: ColdFusion and MVC model...
> Thanx Sandy and S. Isaac Dealey. OnTap Framework looks > like nice... I got one! heh :) Thanks Marco, I appreciate that. There is also an onTap framework mailing list on the houseoffusion site and of course, you can always email me if you have any questions. :) s. isaac dealey 954.927.5117 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477&DE=1 http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=45569&DE=1 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: VMWare was Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
> While you're getting the new laptop you might need to change the OS > as well. Matt, are you being paid by commission? Why is it, when people switch to Macs, they often become fanatics and try to convince everyone else to switch too? You people are as bad as ex-smokers, and rapidly approaching the annoyance level of Jehovah's Witnesses! I apologize in advance to any Jehovah's Witnesses on the list - I'm just kidding. You folks aren't as bad as Mac fanatics. > Unix-based virtualization has been around for some time and is quite > sophisticated. You can easily run hundreds of virtual Linux instances > with User Mode Linux on any decent machine. Higher end machines can > support thousands. In fact, IBM recently introduced a new like of Power5 > machines that give you mainframe level virtualization with AIX or Linux. Yes, I'm aware of UML. That's all well and good, but will it let run any x86 OS on my machine? Will it let me virtualize Windows? No? Well, then, it's not what I want. Thanks anyway, though! > Personally, I do server virtualization with User Mode Linux and with > Linux's rich hardware support, I can use it anywhere including on my Mac. I wasn't aware that you could run UML on OS X. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: ColdFusion and MVC model...
I'll be there... S.Isaac... I'll be there In addition Blackstone will give us any tool to work with OO in native mode like onTap, Struts, FB and so on? Thanks once more again... On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 14:21:18 -0400, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanx Sandy and S. Isaac Dealey. OnTap Framework looks > > like nice... > > I got one! heh :) > > Thanks Marco, I appreciate that. There is also an onTap framework > mailing list on the houseoffusion site and of course, you can always > email me if you have any questions. :) > > > s. isaac dealey 954.927.5117 > > new epoch : isn't it time for a change? > > add features without fixtures with > the onTap open source framework > http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477&DE=1 > http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=45569&DE=1 > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: MAX 2004 (MVC's Session)
I didn't think it was a 3-day commercial. quite honestly I thought the quality of speakers was better than ever as were the topics, although there weren't as many CF topics as I'd have liked. This year definitely looks to be the same so far, though the location is obviously much better. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, eTRILOGY ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor http://www.cfstandards.org Paul Kenney wrote: > It was mostly a 3-day commercial last year. However, I've heard that > MM got so much flack for last year's MAX, that this year they will not > do that again. That means that this year MAX should be focused on > what the community(read attendees) want to see and hear, and less on > what marketing wants its captive audience to experience for three > days. > > On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 14:14:36 -0400, Joe Eugene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I am thinking MAX 2004 might just be more of Trade show for Macromedia > > Products. > > -- > Paul Kenney > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: MAX 2004 (MVC's Session)
I don't think it matters anymore. CFUN-04 beat last year's MAX in everyway as far as CFML goes. Looking at what is scheduled for MAX 2004 tells me that CFUN-04 will be the best conference this year pretty easily. I expect that by the time CFUN-05 rolls around there won't be any question which conference is the de facto CFML conference. -Matt > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Paul Kenney > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 3:03 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: MAX 2004 (MVC's Session) > > It was mostly a 3-day commercial last year. However, I've heard that > MM got so much flack for last year's MAX, that this year they will not > do that again. That means that this year MAX should be focused on > what the community(read attendees) want to see and hear, and less on > what marketing wants its captive audience to experience for three > days. > > > On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 14:14:36 -0400, Joe Eugene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I am thinking MAX 2004 might just be more of Trade show for Macromedia > > Products. > > > -- > Paul Kenney > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: VMWare was Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
> Matt, are you being paid by commission? > No, but feel free to make a donation in my name to your favorite company that isn't a monopoly. > Why is it, when people switch to Macs, they often become fanatics and try > to > convince everyone else to switch too? You people are as bad as ex-smokers, > and rapidly approaching the annoyance level of Jehovah's Witnesses! > If you read my entire email I was actually referring to Linux and not Mac OS X. > Yes, I'm aware of UML. That's all well and good, but will it let run any > x86 > OS on my machine? Will it let me virtualize Windows? No? Well, then, it's > not what I want. Thanks anyway, though! > As you might guess, User Mode Linux is just for Linux; not x86. Further, you might want to avoid using UML to mean User Mode Linux since UML means quite a different thing in the development world. Anyway, I understand you do everything in Windows land, but for the sake of others who care about Linux, User Mode Linux is quite a good thing. > I wasn't aware that you could run UML on OS X. > You can't and I didn't suggest you could. I said I run it on my Mac; not Mac OS X. Linux happens to run very well on Mac hardware or should I say most hardware. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: VMWare was Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
On Jul 18, 2004, at 11:55 AM, Dave Watts wrote: > > I apologize in advance to any Jehovah's Witnesses on the list - I'm > just > kidding. You folks aren't as bad as Mac fanatics. > We are most commonly called: MacFannies or OSXists. For the record, I am not a switcher -- only computers I ever purchased are an Apple ][ and several Macs. Dick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: ColdFusion and MVC model...
> I'll be there... S.Isaac... I'll be there > In addition Blackstone will give us any tool to work > with OO in > native mode like onTap, Struts, FB and so on? > Thanks once more again... Offhand I'm not sure what (if any) additional or modified CFC or OO features will be included in the Blackstone release. For instance, I know a number of people have been suggesting interfaces, although I don't know if there are plans to include them in Blackstone. As a whole the ColdFusion team at Macromedia seem to be focusing primarily on more ease-of-use features such as native support for publishing to PDF and FlashPaper using the new CFDOCUMENT tag. That being said, the current version of ColdFusion (6.1/Red Sky) includes what many of us feel to be a reasonably full-featured OO implementation in the form of CFC's which can be used with any of the three frameworks mentioned in this thread. Implementation of CFC's between these three frameworks will vary somewhat however, as only Mach-II requires the use of CFC's and only the onTap framework provides API enhancements to the native CFC features in CFML such as dynamic and multiple inheritance (as far as I know). Both Fusebox 3 and Fusebox 4 are agnostic to CFC's as far as I know, which may or may not be a good thing, depending on your particular needs and development style. s. isaac dealey 954.927.5117 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477&DE=1 http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=45569&DE=1 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: MAX 2004 (MVC's Session)
You are the first person to disagree with me about it being a commercial. I just know that I came away from it last year with mixed feelings. I'm not saying that I didn't enjoy it. Its just that I guess I expected something more. By the way, it was my first conference... so who knows what I expected--Disneyland perhaps? Having been to MAX last year and CFUN04, I must say that I felt a whole lot better about my decision to go to CFUN. The good thing about MAX, though, is that I was able to get an idea of what was going on in other areas of development such as Flex and Flash. It is partly because of this that I will be going again this year. Its also nice to get away from work for a week! On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 20:13:26 +0100, Simon Horwith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I didn't think it was a 3-day commercial. quite honestly I thought the > quality of speakers was better than ever as were the topics, although > there weren't as many CF topics as I'd have liked. This year definitely > looks to be the same so far, though the location is obviously much better. > > ~Simon > > Simon Horwith > CTO, eTRILOGY ltd. > Member of Team Macromedia > Macromedia Certified Master Instructor > http://www.cfstandards.org > > > > > Paul Kenney wrote: > > > It was mostly a 3-day commercial last year. However, I've heard that > > MM got so much flack for last year's MAX, that this year they will not > > do that again. That means that this year MAX should be focused on > > what the community(read attendees) want to see and hear, and less on > > what marketing wants its captive audience to experience for three > > days. > > > > On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 14:14:36 -0400, Joe Eugene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > I am thinking MAX 2004 might just be more of Trade show for Macromedia > > > Products. > > > > -- > > Paul Kenney > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: ColdFusion and MVC model...
> In addition Blackstone will give us any tool to work with OO in > native mode like onTap, Struts, FB and so on? Like what? CFMX already has CFCs that OO frameworks like Mach II to exist. As Isaac points out, Fusebox and onTap are not OO frameworks (although onTap provides some enhanced stuff for CFCs). If you have suggestions for enhancements to CFMX, now's a good time to let Macromedia know since they're busy developing the next release... http://www.macromedia.com/go/wish Or let me know and I'll see if there are already entries in the bugbase for what you'd like to see! [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Init() method
So, I have the CFC of which I am trying to start on some webservices stuff. Here is a basic object CFC with it's init function (and nothing else.) Following the code is a copy of wsdl I'm getting back.
alert('we are here');
instance = structNew(); instance.ID = 0; instance.category = ""; instance.status = 1; select txtBoutCat as category, blActive as status from tblboutcat2 where intBoutCatID = value="#arguments.ID#"> instance.ID = arguments.ID; instance.category = cat.category; instance.status = cat.status; ***Error Msg In WSDL*** targetNamespace="http://test.seacrets.com.cfcomponents.system.seacrets" xmlns:impl="http://test.seacrets.com.cfcomponents.system.seacrets" xmlns:intf="http://test.seacrets.com.cfcomponents.system.seacrets" xmlns:apachesoap="http://xml.apache.org/xml-soap" xmlns:wsdlsoap="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/soap/" xmlns:soapenc="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns:tns1="http://rpc.xml.coldfusion" xmlns:wsdl="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/" xmlns="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/"> xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" targetNamespace="http://xml.apache.org/xml-soap"> namespace="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/"/> name="mapItem"> type="xsd:string"/> type="xsd:string"/> name="Map"> maxOccurs="unbounded" type="apachesoap:mapItem"/> xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" targetNamespace="http://rpc.xml.coldfusion"> namespace="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/"/> name="CFCInvocationException"> message="impl:CFCInvocationException"/> transport="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/http"/> encodingStyle="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/" namespace="http://test.seacrets.com.cfcomponents.system.seacrets"/> encodingStyle="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/" namespace="http://test.seacrets.com.cfcomponents.system.seacrets"/> encodingStyle="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/" namespace="http://test.seacrets.com.cfcomponents.system.seacrets"/> location="http://192.168.44.45/seacrets/system/cfcomponents/com/seacrets/test/testthis.cfc"/> Why can't I get this to work? Cutter [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: calling CFC in with dynamic variable - what am I missing here?
well, no other methods [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: calling CFC in with dynamic variable - what am I missing here?
Also, I found my question about calling methods via dynamic variable names. http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/buildi20.htm I never saw this in livedocs. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: calling CFC in with dynamic variable - what am I missing here?
So, the only method that Display_Tables() calls is "Get_Phone_Messages". What methods do you have then that are dynamically called with positional arguments? On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 18:32:15 -0400, Peter Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > well, no other methods > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: calling CFC in with dynamic variable - what am I missing here?
Oh, and who calls them? On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 18:32:15 -0400, Peter Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > well, no other methods > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Init() method
First, set output to "false" on your init() function. Next, add the "required" attribute to the argument in your init() function and set it to "true". On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 18:02:06 -0400, Cutter (CF-Talk) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, I have the CFC of which I am trying to start on some webservices > stuff. Here is a basic object CFC with it's init function (and nothing > else.) Following the code is a copy of wsdl I'm getting back. > > > > > > > > > >
> alert('we are here');
> > > > instance = structNew(); > instance.ID = 0; > instance.category = ""; > instance.status = 1; > > > > > select txtBoutCat as category, > blActive as status > from tblboutcat2 > where intBoutCatID = > value="#arguments.ID#"> > > > > > instance.ID = arguments.ID; > instance.category = cat.category; > instance.status = cat.status; > > > > > > > > ***Error Msg In WSDL*** > > > > targetNamespace="http://test.seacrets.com.cfcomponents.system.seacrets" > xmlns:impl="http://test.seacrets.com.cfcomponents.system.seacrets" > xmlns:intf="http://test.seacrets.com.cfcomponents.system.seacrets" > xmlns:apachesoap="http://xml.apache.org/xml-soap" > xmlns:wsdlsoap="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/soap/" > xmlns:soapenc="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/" > xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" > xmlns:tns1="http://rpc.xml.coldfusion" > xmlns:wsdl="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/" > xmlns="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/"> > xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" > targetNamespace="http://xml.apache.org/xml-soap"> > namespace="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/"/> > name="mapItem"> > type="xsd:string"/> > type="xsd:string"/> > name="Map"> > maxOccurs="unbounded" > type="apachesoap:mapItem"/> > xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" > targetNamespace="http://rpc.xml.coldfusion"> > namespace="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/"/> > name="CFCInvocationException"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > message="impl:CFCInvocationException"/> > > > > > transport="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/http"/> > > > > > encodingStyle="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/" > namespace="http://test.seacrets.com.cfcomponents.system.seacrets"/> > > > > encodingStyle="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/" > namespace="http://test.seacrets.com.cfcomponents.system.seacrets"/> > > > > encodingStyle="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/" > namespace="http://test.seacrets.com.cfcomponents.system.seacrets"/> > > > > > > > location="http://192.168.44.45/seacrets/system/cfcomponents/com/seacrets/test/testthis.cfc"/> > > > > > Why can't I get this to work? > > Cutter > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Init() method
Also, you might want to change your returntype to the name of this component since that's what its returning and not a struct. On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 18:02:06 -0400, Cutter (CF-Talk) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, I have the CFC of which I am trying to start on some webservices > stuff. Here is a basic object CFC with it's init function (and nothing > else.) Following the code is a copy of wsdl I'm getting back. > > > > > > > > > >
> alert('we are here');
> > > > instance = structNew(); > instance.ID = 0; > instance.category = ""; > instance.status = 1; > > > > > select txtBoutCat as category, > blActive as status > from tblboutcat2 > where intBoutCatID = > value="#arguments.ID#"> > > > > > instance.ID = arguments.ID; > instance.category = cat.category; > instance.status = cat.status; > > > > > > > > ***Error Msg In WSDL*** > > > > targetNamespace="http://test.seacrets.com.cfcomponents.system.seacrets" > xmlns:impl="http://test.seacrets.com.cfcomponents.system.seacrets" > xmlns:intf="http://test.seacrets.com.cfcomponents.system.seacrets" > xmlns:apachesoap="http://xml.apache.org/xml-soap" > xmlns:wsdlsoap="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/soap/" > xmlns:soapenc="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/" > xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" > xmlns:tns1="http://rpc.xml.coldfusion" > xmlns:wsdl="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/" > xmlns="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/"> > xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" > targetNamespace="http://xml.apache.org/xml-soap"> > namespace="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/"/> > name="mapItem"> > type="xsd:string"/> > type="xsd:string"/> > name="Map"> > maxOccurs="unbounded" > type="apachesoap:mapItem"/> > xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" > targetNamespace="http://rpc.xml.coldfusion"> > namespace="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/"/> > name="CFCInvocationException"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > message="impl:CFCInvocationException"/> > > > > > transport="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/http"/> > > > > > encodingStyle="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/" > namespace="http://test.seacrets.com.cfcomponents.system.seacrets"/> > > > > encodingStyle="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/" > namespace="http://test.seacrets.com.cfcomponents.system.seacrets"/> > > > > encodingStyle="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/" > namespace="http://test.seacrets.com.cfcomponents.system.seacrets"/> > > > > > > > location="http://192.168.44.45/seacrets/system/cfcomponents/com/seacrets/test/testthis.cfc"/> > > > > > Why can't I get this to work? > > Cutter > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: VMWare was Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
> As you might guess, User Mode Linux is just for Linux; not > x86. Further, you might want to avoid using UML to mean User > Mode Linux since UML means quite a different thing in the > development world. Context is everything, you know! It's pretty clear what it means within the context of this thread. > You can't and I didn't suggest you could. I said I run it on > my Mac; not Mac OS X. Linux happens to run very well on Mac > hardware or should I say most hardware. So what advice are you giving me, exactly? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
CFMX Losing CFID/CFTOKEN From Session...
A client of mine just started seeing a weird problem where their application server is no longer seeing the CFID/CFTOKEN in the session scope. This problem just cropped up the other day. The system involved in installed in distributed mode, w/the web server separated from the CFMX installation. The strange thing is, nothing has changed in the application, it just stopped working Monday morning. All of the servers have been rebooted and before that, the services were are cycled. Any idea why the CFID/CFTOKEN wouldn't be present in the SESSION scope? - Dan [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: VMWare was Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
> So what advice are you giving me, exactly? > My suggestion would be to buy a Mac and use Mac OS X for your everyday stuff. You can also install Linux on it and use UML (remember, context!) for various server related tasks. Expose is a pretty killer feature and let's not forget all those cool Unix utilities. I don't think I have ever seen a tail replacement for Windows that wasn't Cgywin-based. You might also want to check out the Tiger preview from Apple, which is supposed to ship in the first half of 2005. It has some amazing features. Oh, and BTW, thanks for the runas information, which will certainly save me some time in the future when I have to admin Windows boxes. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: dsn creation - programatically
Josh, Creating dsn on the fly is a little more complicated than this... If you would like a CFC that does the job contact me off list. Regards Andrew Scott Technical Consultant NuSphere Pty Ltd Level 2/33 Bank Street South Melbourne, Victoria, 3205 Phone: 03 9686 0485 - Fax: 03 9699 7976 _ From: Josh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 18 July 2004 1:02 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: dsn creation - programatically I am building an app that needs to create a DSN programatically...I have the code pretty much done, but the DSN that is created will not work. I am going to the service factory, grabbing a template DSN and copying it. Setting the struct values as necessary, then setting the new dsn in the service factory. It creates the new dsn...you can see it now in the cfadmin, but it will not authenticate, even though the auth info is correct. I am not sure where to go now. Here is my code (from a cfc): [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Apple Developer Connection announcement of BD 6.1
Apple's monthly newsletter to its Developers contains an announcement of BlueDragon 6.1 availability for the OS X platform. You can see it on the web at: http://developer.apple.com/devnews/ Congratulations to the guys at New Atlanta. Hope you get lots of business from the OS X product. Dick "It is possible to be below flattery as well as above it." - Thomas Babington Macaulay - [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: MAX 2004 (MVC's Session)
so what can macromedia take away from this, to make max200x better? i mean, to me, its the problem, of VERY dumbed down sessions, and the fact that RAY CAMDEN is doing the SAME presentation on REUSABLE code is sad. RAY has MUCH MORE to offer than thatdont you ray? i dont want to speak for you, but come on, the same stuff? i mean, whats the sense of doing it? tw On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 13:55:42 -0700, Paul Kenney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You are the first person to disagree with me about it being a > commercial. I just know that I came away from it last year with mixed > feelings. I'm not saying that I didn't enjoy it. Its just that I > guess I expected something more. By the way, it was my first > conference... so who knows what I expected--Disneyland perhaps? > > Having been to MAX last year and CFUN04, I must say that I felt a > whole lot better about my decision to go to CFUN. > > The good thing about MAX, though, is that I was able to get an idea of > what was going on in other areas of development such as Flex and > Flash. It is partly because of this that I will be going again this > year. Its also nice to get away from work for a week! > > > On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 20:13:26 +0100, Simon Horwith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I didn't think it was a 3-day commercial. quite honestly I thought the > > quality of speakers was better than ever as were the topics, although > > there weren't as many CF topics as I'd have liked. This year definitely > > looks to be the same so far, though the location is obviously much better. > > > > ~Simon > > > > Simon Horwith > > CTO, eTRILOGY ltd. > > Member of Team Macromedia > > Macromedia Certified Master Instructor > > http://www.cfstandards.org > > > > > > > > > > Paul Kenney wrote: > > > > > It was mostly a 3-day commercial last year. However, I've heard that > > > MM got so much flack for last year's MAX, that this year they will not > > > do that again. That means that this year MAX should be focused on > > > what the community(read attendees) want to see and hear, and less on > > > what marketing wants its captive audience to experience for three > > > days. > > > > > > On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 14:14:36 -0400, Joe Eugene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > I am thinking MAX 2004 might just be more of Trade show for Macromedia > > > > Products. > > > > > > -- > > > Paul Kenney > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Apple Developer Connection announcement of BD 6.1
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 18:12:14 -0700, Dick Applebaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Apple's monthly newsletter to its Developers contains an announcement > of BlueDragon 6.1 availability for the OS X platform. You can see it > on the web at: > > http://developer.apple.com/devnews/ > > Congratulations to the guys at New Atlanta. > > Hope you get lots of business from the OS X product. Well I can tell you I am now using BD for local developement. I need a local cfserver to test code on before I upload it, but the CFMX version just gives you a war/ear file. I dont want to install tomcat etc just to test my code. I even tried to get it to work with jetty but couldn't (though I was just guessing at it's installation). BD has a built in web server and it just worked - CFMX has a built in server on other OSs why not OSX? - or did I down load the wrong one? Anyway, I second Dick, good show New Atlanta. -- ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~ http://treebeard.sourceforge.net ~open source XML database~ http://ashpool.sourceforge.net [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
SOT: Tale of Two Tigers
I got two tigers, last Friday -- one was from Apple, and the Other from Sun via Apple. One is under NDA, so I can't talk about it, the other has been demoed in public, so it is fair game. Apple's Tiger is the next version of OS X. And has many nice features. I think that one in particular, Spyglass, will be used by web developers, in the near future. Spyglass, quite simply is a search widget, that is pre-built into some applications like iTunes. Tiger has implemented a system-wide search with a little Spyglass icon it the right corner of the Menubar. It will also be available for inclusion in programs that developers write for the Mac -- presumably this will include web apps. I have no Developer specs yet, but I assume that Spyglass is scriptable (almost everything on OS X is scriptable -- photoshop, word, etc) I have been told that Longhorn will have a similar feature, but I haven't seen it. In a sentence Spyglass, quickly searches, names. content and meta data of every file in the system. It is very fast, I did a search on Arlene (my sister's name) and i was amazed at some of the things it found -- one was a mp3 in my iTunes library, named : "See what the boys in the back room will have.mp3". The song is by Marlene Dietrich -- but her name was in neither the file name nor the content, but in the metadata for that file. Spyglass will examine things like email headers, and camera settings of captured photos. It will intelligently search the content of file types other than text files. For example it can find things inside pdf files, etc. You can search for all image files that are 350 x 400 pixels. Or, any file containing Debugger problem). Multiple search terms are fine, as are partial words -- it starts searching when you type the first letter. (This can be a little off-putting, but it is a pre-release). It neatly categorizes the hits into things like: email, images, etc. and shows the top n in each category, with an option to display the rest. I can see developers using this in several ways -- as part of the development process (wouldn't that be a nice Eclipse plugin). And, as an alternative to Verity, Glimpse or Lucene to provide search capabilities for the sites we develop. If you get the opportunity to see the Tiger pre-release, spend a few minutes and try Spyglass -- it will be worth the time. HTH Dick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: CFMX Losing CFID/CFTOKEN From Session...
On Jul 18, 2004, at 5:19 PM, Dan G. Switzer, II wrote: > A client of mine just started seeing a weird problem where their > application > server is no longer seeing the CFID/CFTOKEN in the session scope. This > problem just cropped up the other day. > > The system involved in installed in distributed mode, w/the web server > separated from the CFMX installation. The strange thing is, nothing > has > changed in the application, it just stopped working Monday morning. > > All of the servers have been rebooted and before that, the services > were are > cycled. Any idea why the CFID/CFTOKEN wouldn't be present in the > SESSION > scope? Did rebooting resolve the problem. I have never seen this in CFMX, but had seen it on earlier releases of CF Dick "Seek simplicity, and distrust it." - Alfred North Whitehead - [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Apple Developer Connection announcement of BD 6.1
On Jul 18, 2004, at 7:13 PM, Rob wrote: > On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 18:12:14 -0700, Dick Applebaum > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Apple's monthly newsletter to its Developers contains an > announcement > > of BlueDragon 6.1 availability for the OS X platform. You can see > it > > on the web at: > > > > http://developer.apple.com/devnews/ > > > > Congratulations to the guys at New Atlanta. > > > > Hope you get lots of business from the OS X product. > > Well I can tell you I am now using BD for local developement. I need a > local cfserver to test code on before I upload it, but the CFMX > version just gives you a war/ear file. I dont want to install tomcat > etc just to test my code. I even tried to get it to work with jetty > but couldn't (though I was just guessing at it's installation). I have installed CFMX on Tomcat (easier than JRun) but I like JRun Better. I recently tried to install CFMX and BD on Jetty -- BD works fine, but Jetty doesn't like CFMX's web.xml file. > BD has > a built in web server and it just worked - CFMX has a built in server > on other OSs why not OSX? - or did I down load the wrong one? Never did figure out why they did it that way -- But I like the JRun/CFMXJ2ee combo Dick "If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions?" - Scott Adams - [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
ColdFusion thread priority
Is there any way to set the priority of individual threads in CF? We have several utility apps written that are scheduled throughout the day. Some of these jobs max out the processor when they are running. I'd like to be able to assign these threads a lesser priority so they don't consume the entire server when they run. Performance is not critical for these utilities. I believe this is possible in Java so there should be some way to assign thread priority by calling the underlying Java architecture via createObject(). It would be perfect to have something like: but that's something for the Blackstone wishlist I guess. Has anyone done this? -Joe [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Tale of Two Tigers
I thought the name was Spotlight and they gave away the SDK at WWDC. -Matt > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Dick Applebaum > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 10:14 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: SOT: Tale of Two Tigers > > I got two tigers, last Friday -- one was from Apple, and the Other from > Sun via Apple. > > One is under NDA, so I can't talk about it, the other has been demoed > in public, so it is fair game. > > Apple's Tiger is the next version of OS X. And has many nice features. > > I think that one in particular, Spyglass, will be used by web > developers, in the near future. > > Spyglass, quite simply is a search widget, that is pre-built into some > applications like iTunes. Tiger has implemented a system-wide search > with a little Spyglass icon it the right corner of the Menubar. It will > also be available for inclusion in programs that developers write for > the Mac -- presumably this will include web apps. > > I have no Developer specs yet, but I assume that Spyglass is scriptable > (almost everything on OS X is scriptable -- photoshop, word, etc) > > I have been told that Longhorn will have a similar feature, but I > haven't seen it. > > In a sentence Spyglass, quickly searches, names. content and meta data > of every file in the system. > > It is very fast, I did a search on Arlene (my sister's name) and i was > amazed at some of the things it found -- one was a mp3 in my iTunes > library, named : "See what the boys in the back room will have.mp3". > The song is by Marlene Dietrich -- but her name was in neither the file > name nor the content, but in the metadata for that file. > > Spyglass will examine things like email headers, and camera settings of > captured photos. It will intelligently search the content of file > types other than text files. For example it can find things inside pdf > files, etc. You can search for all image files that are 350 x 400 > pixels. > > Or, any file containing > Debugger problem). > > Multiple search terms are fine, as are partial words -- it starts > searching when you type the first letter. (This can be a little > off-putting, but it is a pre-release). > > It neatly categorizes the hits into things like: email, images, etc. > and shows the top n in each category, with an option to display the > rest. > > I can see developers using this in several ways -- as part of the > development process (wouldn't that be a nice Eclipse plugin). And, as > an alternative to Verity, Glimpse or Lucene to provide search > capabilities for the sites we develop. > > If you get the opportunity to see the Tiger pre-release, spend a few > minutes and try Spyglass -- it will be worth the time. > > HTH > > Dick > > > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: VMWare was Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
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Re: Tale of Two Tigers
On Jul 18, 2004, at 7:48 PM, Matt Liotta wrote: > I thought the name was Spotlight and they gave away the SDK at WWDC. > > -Matt Yes, the app is called spotlight, and the icon is a magnifying glass. I, didn't go to WWDC, so I just got mine in the mail. Apparently the SDK is on the disk -- I didn't notice the developer packages because of the way the DVD opened. Now I will have to install the SDK, but then I won't be able to talk about it. Nice, tho!. Dick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: ColdFusion thread priority
Figured it out:
thread = createObject("java", "java.lang.Thread");
thread.setPriority(3);
Looks like cf runs threads at a priority of 5 and a max of 10.
thread = createObject("java", "java.lang.Thread");
currp = thread.getPriority();
maxp = thread.getThreadGroup().getMaxPriority();
#currp#
#maxp#
Hope it helps someone!
-Joe
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RE: ColdFusion thread priority
"when they are running. I'd like to be able to assign these threads a lesser priority so they don't consume the entire server when they run. Performance is not critical for these utilities" I would write Java Programs to run independent of a Web Application Server and schedule them using the Operating System Schdeduler (e.g. Win NT Scheduler) I believe the above is good approach since these scheduled jobs dont take any resources of the Web Application Server. Joe Eugene -Original Message- From: Joe Bernard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 10:46 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: ColdFusion thread priority Is there any way to set the priority of individual threads in CF? We have several utility apps written that are scheduled throughout the day. Some of these jobs max out the processor when they are running. I'd like to be able to assign these threads a lesser priority so they don't consume the entire server when they run. Performance is not critical for these utilities. I believe this is possible in Java so there should be some way to assign thread priority by calling the underlying Java architecture via createObject(). It would be perfect to have something like: but that's something for the Blackstone wishlist I guess. Has anyone done this? -Joe [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Tale of Two Tigers
Well I installed all the developer pkgs -- but can't find any mention of Spotlight. But, Steve said in his keynote that you could include it in your apps. Dick On Jul 18, 2004, at 8:11 PM, Dick Applebaum wrote: > On Jul 18, 2004, at 7:48 PM, Matt Liotta wrote: > > > I thought the name was Spotlight and they gave away the SDK at WWDC. > > > > -Matt > > Yes, the app is called spotlight, and the icon is a magnifying glass. > > I, didn't go to WWDC, so I just got mine in the mail. Apparently the > SDK is on the disk -- I didn't notice the developer packages because of > the way the DVD opened. > > Now I will have to install the SDK, but then I won't be able to talk > about it. > > Nice, tho!. > > Dick > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: MAX 2004 (MVC's Session)
I believe what we are looking for is a session on Enterprise Development that includes MVC's, Sevice Oriented Architecture, Integrating legacy systems etc Basically routes to Architect Extensible Enterprise (ERP Like) Systems? If you dont know CFML Or Java, you can take a class to Learn the basics and even more, I dont think you can learn Best Practices Of Architecture/Design anywhere other than some general guidelines. Anybody? Thanks, Joe Eugene -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 3:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: MAX 2004 (MVC's Session) I don't think it matters anymore. CFUN-04 beat last year's MAX in everyway as far as CFML goes. Looking at what is scheduled for MAX 2004 tells me that CFUN-04 will be the best conference this year pretty easily. I expect that by the time CFUN-05 rolls around there won't be any question which conference is the de facto CFML conference. -Matt > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Paul Kenney > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 3:03 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: MAX 2004 (MVC's Session) > > It was mostly a 3-day commercial last year. However, I've heard that > MM got so much flack for last year's MAX, that this year they will not > do that again. That means that this year MAX should be focused on > what the community(read attendees) want to see and hear, and less on > what marketing wants its captive audience to experience for three > days. > > > On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 14:14:36 -0400, Joe Eugene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I am thinking MAX 2004 might just be more of Trade show for Macromedia > > Products. > > > -- > Paul Kenney > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: MAX 2004 (MVC's Session)
> I believe what we are looking for is a session on Enterprise Development > that includes MVC's, Sevice Oriented Architecture, Integrating legacy > systems etc > Basically routes to Architect Extensible Enterprise (ERP Like) Systems? I think you're more likely to find that sort of stuff at CFUN than MAX. The audience for MAX is very broad and MAX has to cater for a very large community that extends far beyond ColdFusion. Even CFUN caters for a very broad (ColdFusion) community. Things like SOA are not on most CFers' radars at the moment (and probably never will be). I accept their is a need for such topics somewhere but even from where I sit - as an enterprise architect - I would say that the audience for such topics is relatively small. Having said that, I'm very pleased to see interest in these topics here. It speaks volumes for the maturity of the CF community that such things are even being discussed. I'd love to see some sessions of this nature at CFUN-05... [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Apple Developer Connection announcement of BD 6.1
> version just gives you a war/ear file. I dont want to install tomcat > etc just to test my code. I even tried to get it to work with jetty > but couldn't (though I was just guessing at it's installation). For OS X, you need JRun (free developer edition) and CFMX J2EE (free developer edition). The "built-in" web server in CFMX is actually JRun's JWS which is why you need JRun (it's bundled on other platforms, just not on OS X). If you want Blackstone to do the same sort of bundling for OS X that is currently present for CFMX on other platforms, tell Macromedia: http://www.macromedia.com/go/wish [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: MAX 2004 (MVC's Session)
In general, I don't know if conferences are really where you will find in-depth information on these topic. This is mainly because they are not simple and do not fit within the short format of individual sessions. If you really want to know about these things, first do your homework and read a few books. Then when you get to the conference, find your peers and discuss it in more detail with them. See what others are doing and what they think about these topics. Sometimes you learn more between sessions than you do in all of them combined. On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 22:19:27 -0700, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I believe what we are looking for is a session on Enterprise Development > > that includes MVC's, Sevice Oriented Architecture, Integrating legacy > > systems etc > > Basically routes to Architect Extensible Enterprise (ERP Like) Systems? > > I think you're more likely to find that sort of stuff at CFUN than > MAX. The audience for MAX is very broad and MAX has to cater for a > very large community that extends far beyond ColdFusion. Even CFUN > caters for a very broad (ColdFusion) community. Things like SOA are > not on most CFers' radars at the moment (and probably never will be). > I accept their is a need for such topics somewhere but even from where > I sit - as an enterprise architect - I would say that the audience for > such topics is relatively small. > > Having said that, I'm very pleased to see interest in these topics > here. It speaks volumes for the maturity of the CF community that such > things are even being discussed. I'd love to see some sessions of this > nature at CFUN-05... > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Apple Developer Connection announcement of BD 6.1
On Jul 18, 2004, at 10:25 PM, Sean Corfield wrote: > > version just gives you a war/ear file. I dont want to install tomcat > > etc just to test my code. I even tried to get it to work with jetty > > but couldn't (though I was just guessing at it's installation). > > For OS X, you need JRun (free developer edition) and CFMX J2EE (free > developer edition). > > The "built-in" web server in CFMX is actually JRun's JWS which is why > you need JRun (it's bundled on other platforms, just not on OS X). > > If you want Blackstone to do the same sort of bundling for OS X that > is currently present for CFMX on other platforms, tell Macromedia: Probably a good idea (especially for first timers) -- the install is a lot simpler & only one Dload. Dick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
