RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

[Micha Schopman]

No you read, want you want to read. I didn't say that :) 

I meant that the learning curve of Flash forms is very low, and thus
providing beginning users a better starting point in forms and data
entry than domscript supported forms do. Like Raymond said, once you
skilled domscript there is not a real need to go back to flash forms
anymore. Some people always underestimated the possibilities of it,
untill they saw some real scenarios using domscript on a large scale
(gmail for ex.). The same counts for Flash, but I think the upcoming
brand new Flash player will be the deciding moment, browsers still hogg
horribly with Flash instances open.

I see flash forms, and that is just a personal view of it; as a tool
providing developers who are unexperienced with domscripting, with quick
results but against the price of consistency, and usability.

Also, I have always been one of those who think you should do it (web
applications) 100% Flash, or don't. I would like an application 100%
Flash (like a Flex approach), I do not like an hybrid application. 

You argument about some doctor, doesn't make sense, I hope you see that
too. I can smack that mobile device with any type of GUI, built with any
type of toolkit whether it is domscript, win forms, or flash. 

Micha Schopman
Software Engineer

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380



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-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: woensdag 16 februari 2005 8:54
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

that what you said was totally uncalled for.
 Do you realize that you just told Raymond Camden that he's not good
enough to make a web app? Because he's using flash forms and he should
leave it to you.
 Thats pretty bold, i mean i say some retarded things but
geezo..

 You may not have a use for them but maybe when you get smacked by a
truck and are in the hospital and the doctor has his pocket puter out
and gets all your info in correctly because hes using an app that uses
flash forms and was able to more quickly enter in the important info in
by tabbing through the normal 20 pages of input info and only getting
what is needed in, it just might save your life. 

 Like i been told so many times before "use whats right for the job" 


From: "Micha Schopman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:42 AM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms? 

What are you saying? ... 

Micha Schopman
Software Engineer

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380



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-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: woensdag 16 februari 2005 8:29
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

thats so lame micha!
 the funny thing is ppl that that talk like that make the UGLIEST web
apps!!! sure they may work good but pleazz

 if you cant see the benefit of flash forms then maybe you need to look
at the calendarits 2005 btw


From: "Micha Schopman" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:24 AM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms? 

You can include the library. Any person with some knowledge of
javascript is able to do this. If you don't even know the basics in web
development then I'd suggest people stick to flash forms, or don't try
it at all, and leave the work to the people doing these things for their
living.

Micha Schopman
Software Engineer

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380



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RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

[dave]

see now that makes more sense :)
 I say write things on here all the time and then when i read them it 
completely isnt what i meant at all, haha
 But I was like DAMN, I cant believe he said that lol.

 See I was intrigued by flash forms for the tabs but mostly for the validation, 
because I think that flash's validation is way nicer than js. Although most 
major apps would probably need at least a combo of both. But just how they can 
be done in a visual way is what I liked. But making them in the flash ide is 
way nicer and really much simplier that the old html way.
 Either way I think there is great potential :)

 on a side note* at our cfug tonight our MM rep was there and man they got some 
cool stuff in the works! Even for you Micha:) When it happens your gunna be in 
creamcicle city


From: "Micha Schopman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:14 AM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms? 

No you read, want you want to read. I didn't say that :) 

I meant that the learning curve of Flash forms is very low, and thus
providing beginning users a better starting point in forms and data
entry than domscript supported forms do. Like Raymond said, once you
skilled domscript there is not a real need to go back to flash forms
anymore. Some people always underestimated the possibilities of it,
untill they saw some real scenarios using domscript on a large scale
(gmail for ex.). The same counts for Flash, but I think the upcoming
brand new Flash player will be the deciding moment, browsers still hogg
horribly with Flash instances open.

I see flash forms, and that is just a personal view of it; as a tool
providing developers who are unexperienced with domscripting, with quick
results but against the price of consistency, and usability.

Also, I have always been one of those who think you should do it (web
applications) 100% Flash, or don't. I would like an application 100%
Flash (like a Flex approach), I do not like an hybrid application. 

You argument about some doctor, doesn't make sense, I hope you see that
too. I can smack that mobile device with any type of GUI, built with any
type of toolkit whether it is domscript, win forms, or flash. 

Micha Schopman
Software Engineer

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380



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-

-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: woensdag 16 februari 2005 8:54
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

that what you said was totally uncalled for.
 Do you realize that you just told Raymond Camden that he's not good
enough to make a web app? Because he's using flash forms and he should
leave it to you.
 Thats pretty bold, i mean i say some retarded things but
geezo..

 You may not have a use for them but maybe when you get smacked by a
truck and are in the hospital and the doctor has his pocket puter out
and gets all your info in correctly because hes using an app that uses
flash forms and was able to more quickly enter in the important info in
by tabbing through the normal 20 pages of input info and only getting
what is needed in, it just might save your life. 

 Like i been told so many times before "use whats right for the job" 


From: "Micha Schopman" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:42 AM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms? 

What are you saying? ... 

Micha Schopman
Software Engineer

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380



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informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl 


-

-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: woensdag 16 februari 2005 8:29
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

thats so lame micha!
 the funny thing is ppl that that talk like that make the UGLIEST web
ap

RE: why do e mails go into the Undelivr folder? is there any impr ovement in MX 7?

[Tom Jordahl]

We explicitly do not have ColdFusion move undelivered mail in to the spool
folder because we assume this should be a user initiated procedure.

We do not retry as a "proper" SMTP server does because CF *isn't* an SMTP
server.  It expects that you will have a reliable SMTP server that you can
at least spool the mail to, and since it is written explicitly to get mail
where you want it to go and it will take care of any transient failures.

In summary: instead of doing it half-assed, we let the expert program (and
admin) handle it.

The right way to think of CFMail is as a "User Agent" passing mail for
delivery.  Not as a "Mail Transport Agent".

Hope that helps clarify things.

Tom Jordahl
Macromedia Server Development 

-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 6:10 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: why do e mails go into the Undelivr folder? is there any
improvement in MX 7?

Ah I see there were earlier posts.  You can't always rely on GMail's
threading to group stuff.

Sure it would be more efficient, but a batch file in Windows can't
make decisions based on file age without some outside help.  Don't
know about *n*x.

A new feature would be nice, and maybe we'll get it within the next
2-3 years when CF8 comes out :D

-- 
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CF Hosting

[Andy Jarrett]

Hi there,

I've just came across Viux (www.vuix.com) for CF hosting and was
wondering if anyone is using them or has used them?

Im already with CrystalTech, but was thinking of getting another
domain w/ hosting for a friend and for CF they seemed too cheap. Their
Starter Plan (http://hosting.viux.com/webhosting/plan-starter.asp)
starts at $55.84 yearly with

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Internet Information Services (IIS 6 | .htm)
ColdFusion MX v6.1 (CFML | .cfm)
..NET Framework v1.1 (ASP.Net | .aspx)
Active Server Pages (ASP | .asp)
VBScript / JScript
PHP v4.3.10 (.php)
ActivePerl v5.8.3 Build 809 (Perl / CGI | .pl & .cgi)
Private CGI-Bin Directory
Server Side Includes
24 / 7 / 365 Unlimited FTP Updates
Password Protected Directories (IISPassword / .htaccess)
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Domain Pointers: (4)
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SOT: AspImage - Watermarking

[Dov Katz]

Anyone use AspImage via CFOBJECT in their code? I have it and am wondering how 
to do a DoMerge to merge image B onto image A with an alpha level... But I want 
to do it while designating a transparent color for the second image.  (ex/ a 
pattern with no background, to get a watermark'ed image without the bgcolor of 
the watermark fading onto the existing image)

Has anyone done this before?

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re: CF Hosting

[dave]

personally i would pay a few bucks more a month to have as little extra junk on 
my box as possible and as few users as possible.
 thats 1 reason i like hostmysite, on my linux box its just cfmx, php and maybe 
jsp and they dont cram a zillion ppl on each box, probably why they have so few 
problems :)


From: Andy Jarrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 5:00 AM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: CF Hosting 

Hi there,

I've just came across Viux (www.vuix.com) for CF hosting and was
wondering if anyone is using them or has used them?

Im already with CrystalTech, but was thinking of getting another
domain w/ hosting for a friend and for CF they seemed too cheap. Their
Starter Plan (http://hosting.viux.com/webhosting/plan-starter.asp)
starts at $55.84 yearly with

Microsoft Windows Server 2003
Web Hosting Control Panel
Internet Information Services (IIS 6 | .htm)
ColdFusion MX v6.1 (CFML | .cfm)
...NET Framework v1.1 (ASP.Net | .aspx)
Active Server Pages (ASP | .asp)
VBScript / JScript
PHP v4.3.10 (.php)
ActivePerl v5.8.3 Build 809 (Perl / CGI | .pl & .cgi)
Private CGI-Bin Directory
Server Side Includes
24 / 7 / 365 Unlimited FTP Updates
Password Protected Directories (IISPassword / .htaccess)
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Domain Pointers: (4)
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re: CF Hosting

[dave]

not too mention the user control panels are top notch plus now smartermail & 
smarterstats, its a good package :)


From: Andy Jarrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 5:00 AM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: CF Hosting 

Hi there,

I've just came across Viux (www.vuix.com) for CF hosting and was
wondering if anyone is using them or has used them?

Im already with CrystalTech, but was thinking of getting another
domain w/ hosting for a friend and for CF they seemed too cheap. Their
Starter Plan (http://hosting.viux.com/webhosting/plan-starter.asp)
starts at $55.84 yearly with

Microsoft Windows Server 2003
Web Hosting Control Panel
Internet Information Services (IIS 6 | .htm)
ColdFusion MX v6.1 (CFML | .cfm)
...NET Framework v1.1 (ASP.Net | .aspx)
Active Server Pages (ASP | .asp)
VBScript / JScript
PHP v4.3.10 (.php)
ActivePerl v5.8.3 Build 809 (Perl / CGI | .pl & .cgi)
Private CGI-Bin Directory
Server Side Includes
24 / 7 / 365 Unlimited FTP Updates
Password Protected Directories (IISPassword / .htaccess)
Custom 404 / Error Pages
Domain Pointers: (4)
Sub (Conical) Domains: (4)

Plus loads of other stuff? 

Cheers

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RE: CF Hosting

[Mark Smyth]

I'd recommend

http://www.cfmxhosting.co.uk/

Reasonably priced with excellent support etc and a top notch control panel!

-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 February 2005 10:12
To: CF-Talk
Subject: re: CF Hosting

not too mention the user control panels are top notch plus now smartermail &
smarterstats, its a good package :)


From: Andy Jarrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 5:00 AM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: CF Hosting 

Hi there,

I've just came across Viux (www.vuix.com) for CF hosting and was wondering
if anyone is using them or has used them?

Im already with CrystalTech, but was thinking of getting another domain w/
hosting for a friend and for CF they seemed too cheap. Their Starter Plan
(http://hosting.viux.com/webhosting/plan-starter.asp)
starts at $55.84 yearly with

Microsoft Windows Server 2003
Web Hosting Control Panel
Internet Information Services (IIS 6 | .htm) ColdFusion MX v6.1 (CFML |
..cfm) ...NET Framework v1.1 (ASP.Net | .aspx) Active Server Pages (ASP |
..asp) VBScript / JScript PHP v4.3.10 (.php) ActivePerl v5.8.3 Build 809
(Perl / CGI | .pl & .cgi) Private CGI-Bin Directory Server Side Includes
24 / 7 / 365 Unlimited FTP Updates
Password Protected Directories (IISPassword / .htaccess) Custom 404 / Error
Pages Domain Pointers: (4) Sub (Conical) Domains: (4)

Plus loads of other stuff? 

Cheers

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Re: CF Hosting

[Andy Jarrett]

I did look at CFMX Hosting - but for what you pay you get nothing -
50mb webspace and MS Access DB.

The reason i personally went for CT was that with the "Intermediate"
plan you get 400mb and MySQL db etc - and with the conversion of $ to
£'s it works out cheaper (about £90 annually)

The reason for looking at Vuix was for a friend who wanted cheap
hosting with xchange rate it works out at only £30 - the equilivant to
some cheap ASP hosting providers overhere. Personally as long as it
has MySQL & CFMX 6.1 all is good. I know you get more if you pay more
- but some people don't need/care for it all - and it doesnt matter
how we say it.







On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:27:24 -, Mark Smyth
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd recommend
> 
> http://www.cfmxhosting.co.uk/
> 
> Reasonably priced with excellent support etc and a top notch control panel!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 16 February 2005 10:12
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: re: CF Hosting
> 
> not too mention the user control panels are top notch plus now smartermail &
> smarterstats, its a good package :)
> 
> 
> From: Andy Jarrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 5:00 AM
> To: CF-Talk 
> Subject: CF Hosting
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> I've just came across Viux (www.vuix.com) for CF hosting and was wondering
> if anyone is using them or has used them?
> 
> Im already with CrystalTech, but was thinking of getting another domain w/
> hosting for a friend and for CF they seemed too cheap. Their Starter Plan
> (http://hosting.viux.com/webhosting/plan-starter.asp)
> starts at $55.84 yearly with
> 
> Microsoft Windows Server 2003
> Web Hosting Control Panel
> Internet Information Services (IIS 6 | .htm) ColdFusion MX v6.1 (CFML |
> ..cfm) ...NET Framework v1.1 (ASP.Net | .aspx) Active Server Pages (ASP |
> ..asp) VBScript / JScript PHP v4.3.10 (.php) ActivePerl v5.8.3 Build 809
> (Perl / CGI | .pl & .cgi) Private CGI-Bin Directory Server Side Includes
> 24 / 7 / 365 Unlimited FTP Updates
> Password Protected Directories (IISPassword / .htaccess) Custom 404 / Error
> Pages Domain Pointers: (4) Sub (Conical) Domains: (4)
> 
> Plus loads of other stuff?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Andy
> www.andyjarrett.co.uk
> 
> 

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OT: Flash Popup

[Dwayne Cole]

I've gone to flash sites and when you hit the home page another windows pops up 
to display the flash site.  How does that happen.  I'm trying to upload a Flash 
Site for a friend and right now it plays in in the browser.  How do I get it to 
automatically pop up to it's on window?

Dwayne Cole

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RE: CF Hosting

[James Holmes]

I'm sus of the ViUX plan too - 1GB of space and 10GB transfer for US$50 a
year? What's the catch?

-Original Message-
From: Andy Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2005 7:01 
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Hosting

I did look at CFMX Hosting - but for what you pay you get nothing - 50mb
webspace and MS Access DB.

The reason i personally went for CT was that with the "Intermediate"
plan you get 400mb and MySQL db etc - and with the conversion of $ to £'s it
works out cheaper (about £90 annually)

The reason for looking at Vuix was for a friend who wanted cheap hosting
with xchange rate it works out at only £30 - the equilivant to some cheap
ASP hosting providers overhere. Personally as long as it has MySQL & CFMX
6.1 all is good. I know you get more if you pay more
- but some people don't need/care for it all - and it doesnt matter how we
say it.

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RE: drive mapping for CF to use

[Calvin Ward]

So effectively, your steps under this solution are:

1) Create a CFUser Account 
2) Ensure that account has sufficient privileges to the resources it needs,
such as the share on the remote server)
3) Set the CF service to use that CFUser Account on the Login tab of the
Service properties screen
4) If you are using MX7 and intend to index this directory using Verity,
also set the ColdFusion Search Service to use this account
5) Test using 

I think that about covers it, right?

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: drive mapping for CF to use

> I tried googling for this, but had not success. Sorry about 
> my lack of awareness of networking. How does one use the UNC 
> path in say cfdirectory and specify credentials for the share?

Well, you can't specify credentials with CFDIRECTORY. However, if CF is
running as a user with the appropriate credentials already, as it would
within a domain environment if configured to do so, you can just specify the
UNC path like you would any other filesystem path. At least, that's been my
experience with CF tags in general that access the filesystem.

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RE: CFQUERYPARAM in CFC?

[Calvin Ward]

I'm thinking that's over the top.

The only crazy question is the one that's never asked.

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Tyler Fitch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 1:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFQUERYPARAM in CFC?

Holy crap.  That's an amazing thing to say.  CFARGUMENT doesn't filter
SQL Injection attacks.

I can't see a single reason for such a case.

That's crazy talk.

t


On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:26:10 -0400, Michael Dinowitz
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> Personally, I see no reason for a CFQUERYPARAM being used inside a CFC. It
adds extra overhead and the protection that it provides should be provided
instead by the CFARGUMENT tag. Does anyone see a reason for it in such a
case? Data binding?
> 
> 



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RE: CFQUERYPARAM in CFC?

[James Holmes]

I suspect Mike was trolling in his own forum... ;-) 

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2005 7:26 
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFQUERYPARAM in CFC?

I'm thinking that's over the top.

The only crazy question is the one that's never asked.

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Tyler Fitch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 1:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFQUERYPARAM in CFC?

Holy crap.  That's an amazing thing to say.  CFARGUMENT doesn't filter SQL
Injection attacks.

I can't see a single reason for such a case.

That's crazy talk.

t


On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:26:10 -0400, Michael Dinowitz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Personally, I see no reason for a CFQUERYPARAM being used inside a 
> CFC. It
adds extra overhead and the protection that it provides should be provided
instead by the CFARGUMENT tag. Does anyone see a reason for it in such a
case? Data binding?

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RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

[Calvin Ward]

If you haven't installed CFMX7, you can also view this content at:

http://www.macromedia.com/examples/cfgettingstarted/experience/index_content
..cfm

Enjoy!

Calvin

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 8:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

Check out some simple examples in the Getting Started "Snippets Explorer"

http://127.0.0.1/CFIDE/gettingstarted/experience/index_content.cfm

The Business Card app/form, the Travel search form, the Outlook Calendar
mockup and a few others are there installed with CFMX7.

If anyone would like to share screen shots of their internal forms, and can
share, that'd be great too.

Damon



>Back on topic.. As the subject line says "any sites using the new Flash
>forms?"
>
>I would like to see some and judge myself using different browsers,
>operating systems, etc.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Dave



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RE: CFQUERYPARAM in CFC?

[Calvin Ward]

What?!?!? Don't feed the trolls! :P

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 6:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFQUERYPARAM in CFC?

I suspect Mike was trolling in his own forum... ;-) 

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2005 7:26 
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFQUERYPARAM in CFC?

I'm thinking that's over the top.

The only crazy question is the one that's never asked.

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Tyler Fitch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 1:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFQUERYPARAM in CFC?

Holy crap.  That's an amazing thing to say.  CFARGUMENT doesn't filter SQL
Injection attacks.

I can't see a single reason for such a case.

That's crazy talk.

t


On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:26:10 -0400, Michael Dinowitz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Personally, I see no reason for a CFQUERYPARAM being used inside a 
> CFC. It
adds extra overhead and the protection that it provides should be provided
instead by the CFARGUMENT tag. Does anyone see a reason for it in such a
case? Data binding?



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Re: CF Hosting

[Adam Haskell]

I know of one person reacently, that said they used viux for some
non-profit stuff, it was in one of the hijacked MX 7 release
threads

Adam H


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 19:14:46 +0800, James Holmes
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> I'm sus of the ViUX plan too - 1GB of space and 10GB transfer for US$50 a
> year? What's the catch?
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2005 7:01
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF Hosting
> 
> I did look at CFMX Hosting - but for what you pay you get nothing - 50mb
> webspace and MS Access DB.
> 
> The reason i personally went for CT was that with the "Intermediate"
> plan you get 400mb and MySQL db etc - and with the conversion of $ to £'s it
> works out cheaper (about £90 annually)
> 
> The reason for looking at Vuix was for a friend who wanted cheap hosting
> with xchange rate it works out at only £30 - the equilivant to some cheap
> ASP hosting providers overhere. Personally as long as it has MySQL & CFMX
> 6.1 all is good. I know you get more if you pay more
> - but some people don't need/care for it all - and it doesnt matter how we
> say it.
> 
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Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

[Calvin Ward]

Just heard this on another list:

 

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-5577263.html?tag=nl.e589

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/feb05/02-15RSA05KeynotePR.asp

 

- Calvin



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RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

[James Holmes]

There you go - perhaps they'll take the chance to produce a
standards-compliant browser while they are at it. I doubt it'll shift me off
FireFox any time soon - the web developer plugin is too useful.

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Subject: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

Just heard this on another list:

 

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-5577263.html?tag=nl.e589

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/feb05/02-15RSA05KeynotePR.asp

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RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

[Calvin Ward]

I know I'll continue to evangelize for Firefox, this simply demonstrates
that without a significant threat to mindshare, MS will not improve IE.
Firefox is good for those that prefer it, and also good for those that
prefer IE.

Hopefully over time, our jobs as web developers will become easier (better
CSS support, etc.)

Not only that, the logo looks pretty spiffy on a shirt!
http://www.mozillastore.com/products/clothing 

- Calvin

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

There you go - perhaps they'll take the chance to produce a
standards-compliant browser while they are at it. I doubt it'll shift me off
FireFox any time soon - the web developer plugin is too useful.

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2005 7:56 
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

Just heard this on another list:

 

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-5577263.html?tag=nl.e589

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/feb05/02-15RSA05KeynotePR.asp



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Using VS.NET for CF Dev

[Matthew Small]

So does anybody know if there are any existing plug-ins for CF in VS.NET? I
tried googling it but didn't see anything.

Thank you,
Matt Small

Dave Watts said: 
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RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

[Matthew Small]

"...this simply demonstrates that without a significant threat to mindshare,
MS will not improve IE."

That's an incorrect statement. MS already had plans to upgrade it, although
at a later date and in a newer product.

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Re: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

[Earl, George]

> Sent: dinsdag 15 februari 2005 17:43

> Sent: woensdag 16 februari 2005 8:29

> Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren
de interactie met uw doelgroep. 


If we keep this thread going maybe I can learn a little more Dutch . . . :-)

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

[Adrocknaphobia]

Dream on... with google and aol getting in the mix we're headed back
to Browser World War 2.

-Adam


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:27:13 -0500, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know I'll continue to evangelize for Firefox, this simply demonstrates
> that without a significant threat to mindshare, MS will not improve IE.
> Firefox is good for those that prefer it, and also good for those that
> prefer IE.
> 
> Hopefully over time, our jobs as web developers will become easier (better
> CSS support, etc.)
> 
> Not only that, the logo looks pretty spiffy on a shirt!
> http://www.mozillastore.com/products/clothing
> 
> - Calvin
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 7:00 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)
> 
> There you go - perhaps they'll take the chance to produce a
> standards-compliant browser while they are at it. I doubt it'll shift me off
> FireFox any time soon - the web developer plugin is too useful.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2005 7:56
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)
> 
> Just heard this on another list:
> 
> http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-5577263.html?tag=nl.e589
> 
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/feb05/02-15RSA05KeynotePR.asp
> 
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Moving from MSAccess to MySQL...

[Gel .]

Hey folks,

I am moving a website from MSAccess to MySQL. WHat started out as a fairly low 
traffic site has grown and I appear to be bumping against the connection limits 
of MSAccess.

I have some very odd queries in the site, which I inherited from a previous 
developer, due to the table structure. 

I don't want to bore you by posting the entire query, but the specific part of 
the query that is failing is this :

   and ',' & myfieldname & ',' LIKE '%,myvalue,%'

How do I rewrite that logic for MySQL? 

I have not used MySQL extensively.

Thanks for any help,
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RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

[Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)]

Well, IE6 XP2 Updates/Patch was supposed to be the last version they
developed (other than updates or patches).



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"...this simply demonstrates that without a significant threat to mindshare,
MS will not improve IE."

That's an incorrect statement. MS already had plans to upgrade it, although
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RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

[Michael T. Tangorre]

AOL?! HAHAHA. That company is terrible!




Michael T. Tangorre 

 

> -Original Message-
> From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:21 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)
> 
> Dream on... with google and aol getting in the mix we're 
> headed back to Browser World War 2.
> 
> -Adam
> 
> 
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:27:13 -0500, Calvin Ward 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I know I'll continue to evangelize for Firefox, this simply 
> > demonstrates that without a significant threat to 
> mindshare, MS will not improve IE.
> > Firefox is good for those that prefer it, and also good for 
> those that 
> > prefer IE.
> > 
> > Hopefully over time, our jobs as web developers will become easier 
> > (better CSS support, etc.)
> > 
> > Not only that, the logo looks pretty spiffy on a shirt!
> > http://www.mozillastore.com/products/clothing
> > 
> > - Calvin
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 7:00 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)
> > 
> > There you go - perhaps they'll take the chance to produce a 
> > standards-compliant browser while they are at it. I doubt 
> it'll shift 
> > me off FireFox any time soon - the web developer plugin is 
> too useful.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2005 7:56
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)
> > 
> > Just heard this on another list:
> > 
> > http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-5577263.html?tag=nl.e589
> > 
> > 
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/feb05/02-15RSA05KeynoteP
> > R.asp
> > 
> > 
> 
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RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

[Calvin Ward]

They had no plans to upgrade it without attaching it to an OS, which of
course can't be applied to anybody not running that OS. That is exactly what
I meant by apathy due to lack of competition.

I also suspect the content of the update will be in part driven by the
competition.

- Calvin

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To: CF-Talk
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"...this simply demonstrates that without a significant threat to mindshare,
MS will not improve IE."

That's an incorrect statement. MS already had plans to upgrade it, although
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Re: eggy

[Tony Weeg]

did that, exactly what he had on there, and didnt get any easter eggs?

:( what am i to look for?

tw


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:11:35 +0100, RADEMAKERS Tanguy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.petefreitag.com/item/90.cfm
> 
> 

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Re: eggy

[Mark Drew]

I found it
hehehe
you have to set your language when you get to the admin section

MD


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 08:50:34 -0500, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> did that, exactly what he had on there, and didnt get any easter eggs?
> 
> :( what am i to look for?
> 
> tw
> 
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:11:35 +0100, RADEMAKERS Tanguy
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > http://www.petefreitag.com/item/90.cfm
> >
> >
> 
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Re: eggy

[Stephen Moretti (cfmaster)]

RADEMAKERS Tanguy wrote:

>http://www.petefreitag.com/item/90.cfm 
>
>
>  
>
Heck! Thats like 3 years old!



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RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

[Matthew Small]

OK, you're right... no plans to upgrade something from which they make no
money and have no competition.  I suspect most companies would do the same.
The promise of a new browser for a new OS is a feature of that new OS, just
as most any new feature is part of an upgrade. Would you ask Macromedia to
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add features to your already existing websites for free? MS already has in
place a plan for upgrading bugs, and does so regularly.  What is it that
you're looking for?

- Matt Small

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

They had no plans to upgrade it without attaching it to an OS, which of
course can't be applied to anybody not running that OS. That is exactly what
I meant by apathy due to lack of competition.

I also suspect the content of the update will be in part driven by the
competition.

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

"...this simply demonstrates that without a significant threat to mindshare,
MS will not improve IE."

That's an incorrect statement. MS already had plans to upgrade it, although
at a later date and in a newer product.

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Re: drive mapping for CF to use

[George Abraham]

Calvin,
That sounds right. But I don't think that mapping individual drives is
a scaleable solution. Like I asked before, how do people normally deal
with this? Dave mentioned configuring a domain environment. I will
have to read more on that. Any resources? And sorry if this is
sounding WOT.

George


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 06:22:48 -0500, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So effectively, your steps under this solution are:
> 
> 1) Create a CFUser Account
> 2) Ensure that account has sufficient privileges to the resources it needs,
> such as the share on the remote server)
> 3) Set the CF service to use that CFUser Account on the Login tab of the
> Service properties screen
> 4) If you are using MX7 and intend to index this directory using Verity,
> also set the ColdFusion Search Service to use this account
> 5) Test using 
> 
> I think that about covers it, right?
> 
> - Calvin
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:31 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: drive mapping for CF to use
> 
> > I tried googling for this, but had not success. Sorry about
> > my lack of awareness of networking. How does one use the UNC
> > path in say cfdirectory and specify credentials for the share?
> 
> Well, you can't specify credentials with CFDIRECTORY. However, if CF is
> running as a user with the appropriate credentials already, as it would
> within a domain environment if configured to do so, you can just specify the
> UNC path like you would any other filesystem path. At least, that's been my
> experience with CF tags in general that access the filesystem.
> 
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> 
> Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
> Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
> Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!
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RE: eggy

[RADEMAKERS Tanguy]

baaa! (sheepish)

I'd never seen it before! 

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>Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:52 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: eggy
>
>RADEMAKERS Tanguy wrote:
>
>>http://www.petefreitag.com/item/90.cfm 
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>Heck! Thats like 3 years old!
>
>
>
>

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RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

[Calvin Ward]

I'm not entirely sure how your comments apply to my observations.

Microsoft removed the competition for browsers and promptly ceased improving
their browser beyond the barest minimum.

FireFox is beginning to penetrate the market again.

Microsoft is now reversing their stance and improving their browser without
waiting on an OS (notice that Firefox isn't tied to an OS? That's the way it
all started, remember?).

I think it's a good thing.

- Calvin



-Original Message-
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

OK, you're right... no plans to upgrade something from which they make no
money and have no competition.  I suspect most companies would do the same.
The promise of a new browser for a new OS is a feature of that new OS, just
as most any new feature is part of an upgrade. Would you ask Macromedia to
backwards incorporate Flash Forms or CFCs in CF4.5? Would you go back and
add features to your already existing websites for free? MS already has in
place a plan for upgrading bugs, and does so regularly.  What is it that
you're looking for?

- Matt Small

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

They had no plans to upgrade it without attaching it to an OS, which of
course can't be applied to anybody not running that OS. That is exactly what
I meant by apathy due to lack of competition.

I also suspect the content of the update will be in part driven by the
competition.

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

"...this simply demonstrates that without a significant threat to mindshare,
MS will not improve IE."

That's an incorrect statement. MS already had plans to upgrade it, although
at a later date and in a newer product.

- Matt Small








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Re: eggy

[Greg Morphis]

Are you all talking about the freaky looking blue baby with the moving eyes? 


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:00:34 +0100, RADEMAKERS Tanguy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> baaa! (sheepish)
> 
> I'd never seen it before!
> 
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Stephen Moretti (cfmaster) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:52 PM
> >To: CF-Talk
> >Subject: Re: eggy
> >
> >RADEMAKERS Tanguy wrote:
> >
> >>http://www.petefreitag.com/item/90.cfm
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >Heck! Thats like 3 years old!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

[Matthew Small]

What I'm getting at is that I agree with you on the point that business will
drive the need to improve a product.  What I don't agree with is the notion
that MS or any other company needs to provide free upgrades to their product
on an unlimited basis, for any and all products that are still being used. 

I get that from:

"Microsoft removed the competition for browsers and promptly ceased
improving their browser beyond the barest minimum."

And

"They had no plans to upgrade it without attaching it to an OS, which of
course can't be applied to anybody not running that OS."

That's all I'm getting at. :-)  

- Matt Small




-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

I'm not entirely sure how your comments apply to my observations.

Microsoft removed the competition for browsers and promptly ceased improving
their browser beyond the barest minimum.

FireFox is beginning to penetrate the market again.

Microsoft is now reversing their stance and improving their browser without
waiting on an OS (notice that Firefox isn't tied to an OS? That's the way it
all started, remember?).

I think it's a good thing.

- Calvin



-Original Message-
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

OK, you're right... no plans to upgrade something from which they make no
money and have no competition.  I suspect most companies would do the same.
The promise of a new browser for a new OS is a feature of that new OS, just
as most any new feature is part of an upgrade. Would you ask Macromedia to
backwards incorporate Flash Forms or CFCs in CF4.5? Would you go back and
add features to your already existing websites for free? MS already has in
place a plan for upgrading bugs, and does so regularly.  What is it that
you're looking for?

- Matt Small

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

They had no plans to upgrade it without attaching it to an OS, which of
course can't be applied to anybody not running that OS. That is exactly what
I meant by apathy due to lack of competition.

I also suspect the content of the update will be in part driven by the
competition.

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

"...this simply demonstrates that without a significant threat to mindshare,
MS will not improve IE."

That's an incorrect statement. MS already had plans to upgrade it, although
at a later date and in a newer product.

- Matt Small










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RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

[Bryan F. Hogan]

I don't think anyone doesn't see the benefits. It's just that there are some
usability issues keeping a lot of from using them. If the loading issue,
memory issues (lot of info in dropdown), and loading icon changes to be
static, I'll use them right away. I like them, but their too slow. When they
load quick, I'll use them.

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Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

thats so lame micha!
 the funny thing is ppl that that talk like that make the UGLIEST web
apps!!! sure they may work good but pleazz

 if you cant see the benefit of flash forms then maybe you need to look at
the calendarits 2005 btw


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RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

[Bryan F. Hogan]

Dave, Ray is not the end all be all. Ray has plusses and minuses just like
the rest of us. But I do not feel that Mecha was in any way implying that
Ray doesn't know what he is doing.

You're right, you use what is right for the job. We are not arguing that, we
are arguing the strengths and weaknesses of Flash Forms. In doing so it
allows people like Mike to hear what we have to say. Communication.

-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

that what you said was totally uncalled for.
 Do you realize that you just told Raymond Camden that he's not good enough
to make a web app? Because he's using flash forms and he should leave it to
you.
 Thats pretty bold, i mean i say some retarded things but geezo..

 You may not have a use for them but maybe when you get smacked by a truck
and are in the hospital and the doctor has his pocket puter out and gets all
your info in correctly because hes using an app that uses flash forms and
was able to more quickly enter in the important info in by tabbing through
the normal 20 pages of input info and only getting what is needed in, it
just might save your life. 

 Like i been told so many times before "use whats right for the job" 


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RE: AspImage - Watermarking

[Bryan F. Hogan]

Don't know about ASP Image, but Alagad's Image.cfc rocks!

-Original Message-
From: Dov Katz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:56 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SOT: AspImage - Watermarking

Anyone use AspImage via CFOBJECT in their code? I have it and am wondering
how to do a DoMerge to merge image B onto image A with an alpha level... But
I want to do it while designating a transparent color for the second image.
(ex/ a pattern with no background, to get a watermark'ed image without the
bgcolor of the watermark fading onto the existing image)

Has anyone done this before?



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Re: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

[Greg Morphis]

" if you cant see the benefit of flash forms then maybe you need to look at
the calendarits 2005 btw"

Why would you use something just because of the year?
Many factors are weighed before a product is using them, I think date
should be the very least of concern heh..


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:22:31 -0500, Bryan F. Hogan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't think anyone doesn't see the benefits. It's just that there are some
> usability issues keeping a lot of from using them. If the loading issue,
> memory issues (lot of info in dropdown), and loading icon changes to be
> static, I'll use them right away. I like them, but their too slow. When they
> load quick, I'll use them.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:29 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms?
> 
> thats so lame micha!
>  the funny thing is ppl that that talk like that make the UGLIEST web
> apps!!! sure they may work good but pleazz
> 
>  if you cant see the benefit of flash forms then maybe you need to look at
> the calendarits 2005 btw
> 
> 

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Re: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

[Greg Morphis]

Let me rephrase that.. (it's still early)
Why would you use something just because of the year?
Many factors are weighed before a product is chosen, I think date
should be the very least of concern heh..


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 08:30:08 -0600, Greg Morphis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> " if you cant see the benefit of flash forms then maybe you need to look at
> the calendarits 2005 btw"
> 
> Why would you use something just because of the year?
> Many factors are weighed before a product is using them, I think date
> should be the very least of concern heh..
>

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Re: eggy

[Ian Winter]

I'm sure I've seen another way to get that without changing the
language, I may be wrong though.


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 08:09:31 -0600, Greg Morphis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are you all talking about the freaky looking blue baby with the moving eyes?
> 
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:00:34 +0100, RADEMAKERS Tanguy
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > baaa! (sheepish)
> >
> > I'd never seen it before!
> >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: Stephen Moretti (cfmaster) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:52 PM
> > >To: CF-Talk
> > >Subject: Re: eggy
> > >
> > >RADEMAKERS Tanguy wrote:
> > >
> > >>http://www.petefreitag.com/item/90.cfm
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >Heck! Thats like 3 years old!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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Re: INSERT to related/multiple tables

[Scott Stroz]

You could also try a stored procedure, and only make one call to the DB.

Just my $0.02


On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 02:59:48 -0500, Roberto Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 11:11 PM 2/15/05, Barney Boisvert wrote:
> >Just four sequential CFQUERY tags, each with an INSERT statement.
> 
> Thanks. Two additional thoughts:
> 
> 1) should I enclose all four queries within a CFTRANSACTION tag with a
> rollback option? That way, if something happens that interrupts the insert
> process, data integrity would be protected (i.e., there wouldn't be some
> tables with new information and some tables without)...
> 
> 2) for those tables sharing keys (PK and FK), should I go ahead an insert
> the value in both tables (e.g., "word PK" and "word FK" in two different
> tables)? I don't have "cascade" enabled (using Access 2000). Is it a custom
> practice to enable cascade, or is it better to manually populate the FK
> fields with INSERT?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Roberto Perez
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 

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RE: eggy

[RADEMAKERS Tanguy]

sniffing paint?

>-Original Message-
>From: Ian Winter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:36 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: eggy
>
>I'm sure I've seen another way to get that without changing the
>language, I may be wrong though.
>
>
>On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 08:09:31 -0600, Greg Morphis 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Are you all talking about the freaky looking blue baby with 
>the moving eyes?
>> 
>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:00:34 +0100, RADEMAKERS Tanguy
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > baaa! (sheepish)
>> >
>> > I'd never seen it before!
>> >
>> > >-Original Message-
>> > >From: Stephen Moretti (cfmaster) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > >Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:52 PM
>> > >To: CF-Talk
>> > >Subject: Re: eggy
>> > >
>> > >RADEMAKERS Tanguy wrote:
>> > >
>> > >>http://www.petefreitag.com/item/90.cfm
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >Heck! Thats like 3 years old!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> 
>> 
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Re: INSERT to related/multiple tables

[Scott Stroz]

Nevermind...just noticed you are using Access.



Self,

Read the posts thouroughly before posting.

Me



On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:42:58 -0500, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You could also try a stored procedure, and only make one call to the DB.
> 
> Just my $0.02
> 
> 
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 02:59:48 -0500, Roberto Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > At 11:11 PM 2/15/05, Barney Boisvert wrote:
> > >Just four sequential CFQUERY tags, each with an INSERT statement.
> >
> > Thanks. Two additional thoughts:
> >
> > 1) should I enclose all four queries within a CFTRANSACTION tag with a
> > rollback option? That way, if something happens that interrupts the insert
> > process, data integrity would be protected (i.e., there wouldn't be some
> > tables with new information and some tables without)...
> >
> > 2) for those tables sharing keys (PK and FK), should I go ahead an insert
> > the value in both tables (e.g., "word PK" and "word FK" in two different
> > tables)? I don't have "cascade" enabled (using Access 2000). Is it a custom
> > practice to enable cascade, or is it better to manually populate the FK
> > fields with INSERT?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Roberto Perez
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > 

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Re: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

[Scott Stroz]

>  Ray is not the end all be all. 

*sobs openly*

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RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

[Calvin Ward]

I never said they needed to. I'm merely pointing out that competition for
mindshare apparently is forcing them to, if they want to stay in that market
(free or not).

And regardless of which browser you prefer, this is a good thing.

Let's not forget it's a free product because Microsoft made it so (more or
less).

Your inference from my statements is incorrect, both of which are factual to
the best of my knowledge. I don't care if they provide an upgrade (I use
FireFox predominantly), I merely think it is good that they are.

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:19 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

What I'm getting at is that I agree with you on the point that business will
drive the need to improve a product.  What I don't agree with is the notion
that MS or any other company needs to provide free upgrades to their product
on an unlimited basis, for any and all products that are still being used. 

I get that from:

"Microsoft removed the competition for browsers and promptly ceased
improving their browser beyond the barest minimum."

And

"They had no plans to upgrade it without attaching it to an OS, which of
course can't be applied to anybody not running that OS."

That's all I'm getting at. :-)  

- Matt Small




-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

I'm not entirely sure how your comments apply to my observations.

Microsoft removed the competition for browsers and promptly ceased improving
their browser beyond the barest minimum.

FireFox is beginning to penetrate the market again.

Microsoft is now reversing their stance and improving their browser without
waiting on an OS (notice that Firefox isn't tied to an OS? That's the way it
all started, remember?).

I think it's a good thing.

- Calvin



-Original Message-
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

OK, you're right... no plans to upgrade something from which they make no
money and have no competition.  I suspect most companies would do the same.
The promise of a new browser for a new OS is a feature of that new OS, just
as most any new feature is part of an upgrade. Would you ask Macromedia to
backwards incorporate Flash Forms or CFCs in CF4.5? Would you go back and
add features to your already existing websites for free? MS already has in
place a plan for upgrading bugs, and does so regularly.  What is it that
you're looking for?

- Matt Small

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

They had no plans to upgrade it without attaching it to an OS, which of
course can't be applied to anybody not running that OS. That is exactly what
I meant by apathy due to lack of competition.

I also suspect the content of the update will be in part driven by the
competition.

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

"...this simply demonstrates that without a significant threat to mindshare,
MS will not improve IE."

That's an incorrect statement. MS already had plans to upgrade it, although
at a later date and in a newer product.

- Matt Small












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Re: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

[Matt Woodward]

>I see flash forms, and that is just a personal view of it; as a tool
>providing developers who are unexperienced with domscripting, with quick
>results but against the price of consistency, and usability.

You truly are missing the point of Flash forms, and I still think you're 
insulting a whole lot of people by implying that Flash forms are only useful to 
people who can't figure out Javascript.  Give me a break!  I'm interested in 
Flash forms because of the tremendous possibilities they offer, not because I 
don't know Javascript.  Dismissing Flash forms as an easy way out of learning 
Javascript (or using pre-built libraries) is just downright silly.  I also 
don't see why you pay the price of consistency and *especially* usability with 
Flash forms, but that's an argument for another day I suppose.

Have you polled any of your users about Flash forms?  The people at my company 
whom I've shown Flash forms to have all been universally floored by them from a 
usability standpoint, and these are non-technical people, which remember is 
going to be the vast majority of your user base in most cases.  If it makes the 
life of the non-technical person easier and simplifies form entry processes, 
particularly complex of lengthy ones, then it's a good thing to have in the 
toolbox when you need it.

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RE: Using CFMAIL

[Eric Creese]

Yes I do need that help cause I would like to use it. What else can I use that 
is FREE?

-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 6:32 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Using CFMAIL


So you mean the Windows SMTP service, right?  Personally I have never
used that tool, but plenty of others have on this list.

If you're looking for help config'ing MS SMTP someone else needs to
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Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

[Dave Carabetta]

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 06:55:38 -0500, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just heard this on another list:
> 
> http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-5577263.html?tag=nl.e589
> 
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/feb05/02-15RSA05KeynotePR.asp
> 

I wouldn't get your hopes up as a developer for anything special. If
you read the article, here are the parameters of the next version:

1) Will run only on Windows XP with SP2 installed
2) Will be security-focused (which will probably mean messing with
ActiveX or something) with zero guarantee that any standards
compliance features would make it in to the final release

The XP/SP2 requirement is comparatively such a small demographic (MS
says it's 50%, but I believe that number is a bit inflated) vs. non-XP
Windows users that it'll be interesting to see just how much market
penetration (and how much of a difference) the browser makes.

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Re: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

[Aaron Rouse]

What happens when you need something that is not offered in the CFML
Flash forms, but could be done within "straight" Flash forms?  If it
happened to me, I'd just make it in the "straight" ones, if it
happened to an inexperienced person who may not be capable of learning
Flash(at least in a timely fashion) then what do they do?  Of course,
same example could apply to domscript ot whatever else is being
mentioned here as an alternative.

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:58:15 -0400, Matt Woodward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> You truly are missing the point of Flash forms, and I still think you're 
> insulting a whole lot of people by implying that Flash forms are only useful 
> to people who can't figure out Javascript.  Give me a break!  I'm interested 
> in Flash forms because of the tremendous possibilities they offer, not 
> because I don't know Javascript.  Dismissing Flash forms as an easy way out 
> of learning Javascript (or using pre-built libraries) is just downright 
> silly.  I also don't see why you pay the price of consistency and 
> *especially* usability with Flash forms, but that's an argument for another 
> day I suppose.

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RE: Migrating to a new server - CF Considerations?

[Dawson, Michael]

Just run the 30-day trial version or the developer version and you will
be alright.  (If you get it converted in 30 days or less.)

Mike 

-Original Message-
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Migrating to a new server - CF Considerations?

Heh, no, not really, hence the concern.  And by "not really" I mean
"no".  That is where the concern lies--I just wanted to be certain on
what's the right way to work this.  I'm not looking to do anything
wrong, per se, just trying to understand best plan of attack to manage
this the best possible way.

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Re: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

[Joe Rinehart]

> I also don't see why you pay the price of consistency and *especially* 
> usability with Flash forms, but that's an argument for another day I suppose.

I completely agree with Matt, and would like to add that consistency
(either on the UI or code side) is definitely not a strong point of
complex js/dom scripting.  Ask anyone who's spent hours tweaking
because of browser inconsistencies.

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RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

[Craig Dudley]

Full PNG support would be nice, it's only been about 6 years since they
promised it. 

-Original Message-
From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 February 2005 15:01
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 06:55:38 -0500, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just heard this on another list:
> 
> http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-5577263.html?tag=nl.e589
> 
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/feb05/02-15RSA05KeynoteP
> R.asp
> 

I wouldn't get your hopes up as a developer for anything special. If you
read the article, here are the parameters of the next version:

1) Will run only on Windows XP with SP2 installed
2) Will be security-focused (which will probably mean messing with
ActiveX or something) with zero guarantee that any standards compliance
features would make it in to the final release

The XP/SP2 requirement is comparatively such a small demographic (MS
says it's 50%, but I believe that number is a bit inflated) vs. non-XP
Windows users that it'll be interesting to see just how much market
penetration (and how much of a difference) the browser makes.

Regards,
Dave.



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SOT: A difficult but interesting read

[Dick Applebaum]

Below, is a quote from an interesting article about the the new 
IBM/Sony/Toshiba Cell chip... and what the author thinks the effects 
will be on consumer electronics and computing.

Cell V's Java
  I explained the differences in part 2 but I thought of this afterwards 
(of course):
What would happen if you were to combine them?
  The result would be a application which would work on (almost) every 
Platform / OS and take full advantage of the Cells.
  Going further, this could lead to applications in which the GUI and 
logic is written in a scripting language and the heavy processing in a 
more complex language. Such applications will be quick and easy to 
develop and automatically cross platform.

The bit about "GUI and logic is written in a scripting language" jumped 
out at me... The GUI could be the Browser with A/V plugins (Flash, 
QuckTime, WMP, etc).  The scripting language could be JavaScript and 
CFML.

Here's the article:

http://www.blachford.info/computer/Cells/Cell0.html

Enjoy

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Re: Regex Question

[Ben Doom]

S.Isaac pointed out that I'd misread the original post.  I thought he 
wanted to remove them, not replace them.  That makes this just a wee bit 
harder.  :-)

Since what he's wanting to do is apparently average them, I'd write the 
summation loop manually and track the last non-zero value to use in case 
of zeros.  I'm not sure what he'd want to do with a leading zero, but 
that's a whole new bag'o'worms.

--Ben

Michael Dinowitz wrote:
> Ben, 
> I've tried this a few ways and I can't find any way to do a single run RegEx
> which will do the job. Handling a single 0 is child's play. Handling
> multiple properly is not happening. 
> If this was put in a loop, I can see it but.
> What do you suggest as a solution that will handle multiple 0 replaces
> without a loop?
> 
> 
>>Well, you could use listdeleteat() to remove them.  That would probably
>>be more human readable later.  It would also handle boundary cases (ie
>>the first and last items) easily and cleanly.
>>
>>If, for some reason, you really want to use a regex, it certainly can be
>>done.  :-)
>>
>>--Ben
>>
>>Tony Hicks wrote:
>>
>>>Does anyone know if there's a way to replace an unkown number of
>>>consequitive 0s in a list with the previous number..
>>>
>>>For instance...
>>>
>>>147,0,119,137,0,0,0,154 would become..
>>>
>>>147,147,119,137,137,137,137,154
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>Tony
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 
> 

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Sharing Application Sessions

[Gavin Brook]

Hi All,

  I'm trying to create a "single sign on" system for several of my CFMX
apps. They all utilise the same security model and security objects, so I
figure there must be a way to allow me to log into 1 app, and switch to the
others without being prompted to login. This isn't currently a clustered
environment, but will move to that at some point.

  Has anybody implemented anything similar to this? The login details are
held in the users session, so I guess there must be an easy way to tell CF
to use an alternate session, or transfer it, to the other app.

Any ideas??

Thanks,

Gavin


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Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

[Jochem van Dieten]

Matthew Small wrote:
> OK, you're right... no plans to upgrade something from which they make no
> money and have no competition.  I suspect most companies would do the same.
> The promise of a new browser for a new OS is a feature of that new OS, just
> as most any new feature is part of an upgrade. Would you ask Macromedia to
> backwards incorporate Flash Forms or CFCs in CF4.5?

If that was the only way to stop the onslaught of patches for 
never ending security holes in a product that we can now safely 
say has a security system that is broken by design I would do that.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

[Adrocknaphobia]

Its funny how you can pick a MS critic from a mile away. Yes, they
just publicly announced that IE 7 will be released this summer, but I
think you underestimate MS when you act like they are shooting from
this hip. An update to an application to the scale of IE would have
been planned well over a year ago. Most likely before Firefox was even
in beta.

Firefox is not a threat. It's just new and hot. Much like mozilla was
on it's initial launch when these exact same conversation were had.

AOL and google are both launching browsers soon (AOL based on IE ...
not Mozilla). You would be naive to assume that they will just put out
clones of existing browsers. What would be the financial gain in that?
Soon you will be developing for those browsers inconsistencies as
well.

So do you people subscribe to an 'MS hater' email list, because its
always the same crap on every MS related thread.. stale and without
substance.

But the bottom line is... who cares? You may love fireFox, but your
love for Firefox isn't going to put it on the 90% of desktops who are
happily surfing with IE.

-Adam


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:03:29 -0500, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not entirely sure how your comments apply to my observations.
> 
> Microsoft removed the competition for browsers and promptly ceased improving
> their browser beyond the barest minimum.
> 
> FireFox is beginning to penetrate the market again.
> 
> Microsoft is now reversing their stance and improving their browser without
> waiting on an OS (notice that Firefox isn't tied to an OS? That's the way it
> all started, remember?).
> 
> I think it's a good thing.
> 
> - Calvin

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Re: SOT: A difficult but interesting read

[russ]

> Below, is a quote from an interesting article about the the new
> IBM/Sony/Toshiba Cell chip... and what the author thinks the effects
> will be on consumer electronics and computing.
>
> Cell V's Java
>   I explained the differences in part 2 but I thought of this afterwards
> (of course):
> What would happen if you were to combine them?

Does someone think that this isn't already happening?


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Verity vs. Lucene

[Bob Clingan]

I was wondering if anyone had done any real world comparisions of doing 
searches using Verity vs. Lucene and which one won?

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2 to the power of 10

[Tony Weeg]

hola peeps!

is there a udf or something else to handle this simple calculation?

i can do it myself, with some dumb code, just wondering if there is
something already built.

later.

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Re: Dave and Source Code Organizer PS

[Greg Morphis]

Should this really be posted to CFTalk?
It seemed to be a correspondence directed at Dave.. 
Shouldn't this have been emailed?


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 02:31:02 -0500, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> right!
>  i use it for a lot of flash code, java snippets and storing client info such 
> as ftp usernames and passwords, so when i do my monthly reinstall its easy to 
> get everything back up and going.
>  I also like that you can directly back up or restore  the info in it, 
> creates an access db which i keep on an external drive
> 
> 
> From: "Dawson, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 8:56 PM
> To: CF-Talk 
> Subject: RE: Dave and Source Code Organizer PS
> 
> Yeah, but application-agnostic is what I'm looking for. I don't want to
> have to open DW (actually I use Homesite+) to get to snippets. I need
> to store snippets other than HTML/CFML. There are a few other systems
> in which I develop, but nothing that would require me to open Homesite+.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 6:55 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Dave and Source Code Organizer PS
> 
> Like the snippet organiser built in to Dreamweaver?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2005 12:47
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Dave and Source Code Organizer PS
> 
> Dave, I'm going to review this application today. While I'm at it, are
> there any other similar tools that you would have rather used but were
> more expensive?
> 
> Or, do you feel this does everything you need?
> 
> Thanks
> M!ke
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 9:43 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: cfm 7 and remoting check
> 
> just a program that lets you make categories and store source codes very
> easily cant even tell you how handy it is! the new version is a bit
> nicer than the older one.
>  worth the price serveral times over
> 
>  http://www.pindersoft.com/sourcecode.htm
> 
> 

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RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

[Sparrow-Hood, Walter]

Micha,
Where are they available?

Walt

-Original Message-
From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:22 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

For the ones who like javascript components, I developed some, freely
available for download like a treeview (xml based, extensive api), dhtml
menu (with observers/listeners). They are crossbrowser, and standards
compliant.

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-Original Message-
From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 15 februari 2005 18:13
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

Just figured I'd list one that he did not list.

I like these debates, sometimes they make me aware of things I was not
overly aware of.  Such as a couple of things available already done in
dhtml


On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:18:04 -0500, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > > This is tunring into the which is better, CF, ASP or PHP debate.
> >
> > To answer your question as to which is best, it would be JSP ;)
>
> Wow, you actually picked the worst of the four!
>





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Re: why do e mails go into the Undelivr folder? is there any impr ovement in MX 7?

[Rick Root]

Tom Jordahl wrote:
> We explicitly do not have ColdFusion move undelivered mail in to the spool
> folder because we assume this should be a user initiated procedure.
> 
> We do not retry as a "proper" SMTP server does because CF *isn't* an SMTP
> server.  It expects that you will have a reliable SMTP server that you can
> at least spool the mail to, and since it is written explicitly to get mail
> where you want it to go and it will take care of any transient failures.

Tom, that's all very interesting, but there are a few issues.

#1 - in a shared hosting environment, the "user" does not have the 
ability to respool things, only the admin does.

#2 - Other languages that do SMTP injection actually give an immediate 
error that can be trapped by the page... like php will generate an error 
immediately, because it connects to the SMTP server to send right away 
(if you do it that way)...  with coldfusion, there's no way to know if 
it has been sent, and in a shared environment, there's no OTHER way to 
know if it's been sent either.

I'd love to see a NOTIFY_ON_FAILURE option to CFMAIL that would allow CF 
to send failure notifications to a specified address.   Ie, something 
the programmers in a shared hosting environment could use.

  - Rick


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Re: Regex Question

[Greg Morphis]

Tony, if someone entered a 0, wouldnt you want to account for that?
Or if you didnt.. why not delete the 0's and then get an average (if
they're just place holders)?
If a 0 is just a place holder, you wouldnt want to replace it with a
previous value. That would mess up your average.



On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:32:28 -0500, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> S.Isaac pointed out that I'd misread the original post.  I thought he
> wanted to remove them, not replace them.  That makes this just a wee bit
> harder.  :-)
> 
> Since what he's wanting to do is apparently average them, I'd write the
> summation loop manually and track the last non-zero value to use in case
> of zeros.  I'm not sure what he'd want to do with a leading zero, but
> that's a whole new bag'o'worms.
> 
> --Ben
> 
> Michael Dinowitz wrote:
> > Ben,
> > I've tried this a few ways and I can't find any way to do a single run RegEx
> > which will do the job. Handling a single 0 is child's play. Handling
> > multiple properly is not happening.
> > If this was put in a loop, I can see it but.
> > What do you suggest as a solution that will handle multiple 0 replaces
> > without a loop?
> >
> >
> >>Well, you could use listdeleteat() to remove them.  That would probably
> >>be more human readable later.  It would also handle boundary cases (ie
> >>the first and last items) easily and cleanly.
> >>
> >>If, for some reason, you really want to use a regex, it certainly can be
> >>done.  :-)
> >>
> >>--Ben
> >>
> >>Tony Hicks wrote:
> >>
> >>>Does anyone know if there's a way to replace an unkown number of
> >>>consequitive 0s in a list with the previous number..
> >>>
> >>>For instance...
> >>>
> >>>147,0,119,137,0,0,0,154 would become..
> >>>
> >>>147,147,119,137,137,137,137,154
> >>>
> >>>Thanks
> >>>Tony
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> 
> 

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RE: 2 to the power of 10

[Ian Skinner]

You mean something other then #2^10#?


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-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 7:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: 2 to the power of 10

hola peeps!

is there a udf or something else to handle this simple calculation?

i can do it myself, with some dumb code, just wondering if there is
something already built.

later.

--
tony

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RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

[Matthew Small]

That's really a stretch... a security system broken by design?  What's your
source on that?

- Matt Small

-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

Matthew Small wrote:
> OK, you're right... no plans to upgrade something from which they make no
> money and have no competition.  I suspect most companies would do the
same.
> The promise of a new browser for a new OS is a feature of that new OS,
just
> as most any new feature is part of an upgrade. Would you ask Macromedia to
> backwards incorporate Flash Forms or CFCs in CF4.5?

If that was the only way to stop the onslaught of patches for 
never ending security holes in a product that we can now safely 
say has a security system that is broken by design I would do that.

Jochem



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Re: 2 to the power of 10

[Charlie Griefer]

2^10 ?


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:48:05 -0500, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hola peeps!
> 
> is there a udf or something else to handle this simple calculation?
> 
> i can do it myself, with some dumb code, just wondering if there is
> something already built.
> 
> later.
> 
> --
> tony
> 
> Tony Weeg
> 
> macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer
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> 
> 

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Re: 2 to the power of 10

[Greg Morphis]

#2^10#
heh ;)

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:48:05 -0500, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hola peeps!
> 
> is there a udf or something else to handle this simple calculation?
> 
> i can do it myself, with some dumb code, just wondering if there is
> something already built.
> 
> later.
> 
> --
> tony
> 
> Tony Weeg
> 
> macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer
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> 
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Re: 2 to the power of 10

[Howie Hamlin]

--- On Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:48 AM, Tony Weeg scribed: ---
>
> hola peeps!
> 
> is there a udf or something else to handle this simple calculation?
> 
> i can do it myself, with some dumb code, just wondering if there is
> something already built.
> 
> later.

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RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

[Calvin Ward]

Adam,

I'm not a critic of MS at all, however I am unhappy with the progression of
improvement for the IE browser, both in addressing security and supporting
standards.

And less than a year ago MS publicly stated there was not going to be an
update to IE until Longhorn, so I'm not sure where you get the impression
that this is not a change in plans.

As an FYI, I never make a purchase or technology decision for or against a
technology just because it is or is not MS. In fact, many MS products meet
my needs. Current IE does not.

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:40 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

Its funny how you can pick a MS critic from a mile away. Yes, they
just publicly announced that IE 7 will be released this summer, but I
think you underestimate MS when you act like they are shooting from
this hip. An update to an application to the scale of IE would have
been planned well over a year ago. Most likely before Firefox was even
in beta.

Firefox is not a threat. It's just new and hot. Much like mozilla was
on it's initial launch when these exact same conversation were had.

AOL and google are both launching browsers soon (AOL based on IE ...
not Mozilla). You would be naive to assume that they will just put out
clones of existing browsers. What would be the financial gain in that?
Soon you will be developing for those browsers inconsistencies as
well.

So do you people subscribe to an 'MS hater' email list, because its
always the same crap on every MS related thread.. stale and without
substance.

But the bottom line is... who cares? You may love fireFox, but your
love for Firefox isn't going to put it on the 90% of desktops who are
happily surfing with IE.

-Adam


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:03:29 -0500, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not entirely sure how your comments apply to my observations.
> 
> Microsoft removed the competition for browsers and promptly ceased
improving
> their browser beyond the barest minimum.
> 
> FireFox is beginning to penetrate the market again.
> 
> Microsoft is now reversing their stance and improving their browser
without
> waiting on an OS (notice that Firefox isn't tied to an OS? That's the way
it
> all started, remember?).
> 
> I think it's a good thing.
> 
> - Calvin



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Cfmx + java Perforce API

[Katz, Dov B (IT)]

Has anyone created any CF apps / CFC's using the java Perforce API?
 
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Re: 2 to the power of 10

[Stephen Moretti (cfmaster)]

Tony Weeg wrote:

>hola peeps!
>
>is there a udf or something else to handle this simple calculation?
>
>i can do it myself, with some dumb code, just wondering if there is
>something already built.
>  
>
After all the smart alec answers ;)

2^10 is what you are after.  ^ is the CF exponentiation operator.


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Re: 2 to the power of 10

[Tony Weeg]

well, either im NUTS or thats just not working for me on blackstone/cfmx7?

tw


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:54:58 -0600, Greg Morphis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> #2^10#
> heh ;)
> 
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:48:05 -0500, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > hola peeps!
> >
> > is there a udf or something else to handle this simple calculation?
> >
> > i can do it myself, with some dumb code, just wondering if there is
> > something already built.
> >
> > later.
> >
> > --
> > tony
> >
> > Tony Weeg
> >
> > macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer
> > email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com
> > blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/
> > cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com
> >
> >
> 
> 

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Re: 2 to the power of 10

[Tony Weeg]

nevermind... 

:) i effed up.

its all good.

late.

tw


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:05:43 -0500, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> well, either im NUTS or thats just not working for me on blackstone/cfmx7?
> 
> tw
> 
> 
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:54:58 -0600, Greg Morphis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > #2^10#
> > heh ;)
> >
> > On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:48:05 -0500, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > hola peeps!
> > >
> > > is there a udf or something else to handle this simple calculation?
> > >
> > > i can do it myself, with some dumb code, just wondering if there is
> > > something already built.
> > >
> > > later.
> > >
> > > --
> > > tony
> > >
> > > Tony Weeg
> > >
> > > macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer
> > > email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com
> > > blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/
> > > cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> > 

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Re: 2 to the power of 10

[Charlie Griefer]

could be both :)

what's the exact code you've got?


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:05:43 -0500, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> well, either im NUTS or thats just not working for me on blackstone/cfmx7?
> 
> tw
> 
> 
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:54:58 -0600, Greg Morphis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > #2^10#
> > heh ;)
> >
> > On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:48:05 -0500, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > hola peeps!
> > >
> > > is there a udf or something else to handle this simple calculation?
> > >
> > > i can do it myself, with some dumb code, just wondering if there is
> > > something already built.
> > >
> > > later.
> > >
> > > --
> > > tony
> > >
> > > Tony Weeg
> > >
> > > macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer
> > > email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com
> > > blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/
> > > cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

[Rob]

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:39:37 -0500, Adrocknaphobia
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Its funny how you can pick a MS critic from a mile away. Yes, they
> just publicly announced that IE 7 will be released this summer, 

I think they said a _beta_ will be ready this summer for 2003 and XP

> Firefox is not a threat. It's just new and hot. Much like mozilla was
> on it's initial launch when these exact same conversation were had.

I think Firefox is a threat. The product is gaining market and
mindshare over IE pretty consistently, and if they want to stop it
they have to act now not before it gets to 30 or 50%. MSs plan (I
think I read this somewhere but cant remember) is to get everyone off
the browser and write apps with their avalon thing anyway (kind of
like Flex for the desktop, but probably more complicated with
engineered in vulnerabilities). I'd even say MM is a threat to MS at
this point (unless they are playing footsie under the table)

The more people that get hooked with complex apps in the browser the
more they'll have to convert later.  But MS says the only reason I've
heard they are upgrading is because "their customers asked for it"
(like they listen to them ;-D)

I'd bet IE7 is not going to be anything grand - it's going to be catch
up like it almost always is. They'll just add the basic features that
are in firefox so that the IE crowd who now say they don't need tabbed
browsing can say they love IE for its tabbed browsing

> So do you people subscribe to an 'MS hater' email list, because its
> always the same crap on every MS related thread.. stale and without
> substance.
> 
> But the bottom line is... who cares? You may love fireFox, but your
> love for Firefox isn't going to put it on the 90% of desktops who are
> happily surfing with IE.

I wouldn't say happily which is kind of the point ;)

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Re: 2 to the power of 10

[Greg Morphis]

It's working here Tony.. #2^10# gives me 1024


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:05:43 -0500, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> well, either im NUTS or thats just not working for me on blackstone/cfmx7?
> 
> tw
> 
> 
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:54:58 -0600, Greg Morphis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > #2^10#
> > heh ;)
> >
> > On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:48:05 -0500, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > hola peeps!
> > >
> > > is there a udf or something else to handle this simple calculation?
> > >
> > > i can do it myself, with some dumb code, just wondering if there is
> > > something already built.
> > >
> > > later.
> > >
> > > --
> > > tony
> > >
> > > Tony Weeg
> > >
> > > macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer
> > > email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com
> > > blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/
> > > cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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Re: 2 to the power of 10

[Stephen Moretti (cfmaster)]

Stephen Moretti (cfmaster) wrote:

>Tony Weeg wrote:
>
>  
>
>>hola peeps!
>>
>>is there a udf or something else to handle this simple calculation?
>>
>>i can do it myself, with some dumb code, just wondering if there is
>>something already built.
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>After all the smart alec answers ;)
>
>2^10 is what you are after.  ^ is the CF exponentiation operator.
>  
>
D'oh!  Now I see why everyone looked to be taking the michael!  
Thunderbird interpretes 2  ^  10 and turns it into 2^10!




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Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

[Bryan Stevenson]

You know that one thing that everyone seems to miss in these "my browser is 
bigger than your browser" threads is this:

We are techieswe like what we like...we understand it all and can see 
the differences.

The average user (ya the ones that keep AOL in business etc.) do not.  They 
buy a computer with Windows and IE on it...that is all they know.  For a lot 
of them it's not a "browser"it's not "IE or FireFox"it's simply 
known as the "Internet" (yes my mother calls her browser the Internet). 
This is an alien world to us techies and we have to remember to think like 
those awful uneducated masses.

The only way I can see that FireFox (or any other newcomer) can truly make a 
dent (and/or scare MS) is to convince computer manufacturers/retailers to 
package FireFox with their computers.  That of course will require the 
heavens to open up and large bolts of lightning will spill form and strike 
Redmond ;-)

So until then...we can like what we will...but IE will remain Lord of the 
Browsers.

Bye now

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- Original Message - 
From: "Calvin Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 7:58 AM
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)


> Adam,
>
> I'm not a critic of MS at all, however I am unhappy with the progression 
> of
> improvement for the IE browser, both in addressing security and supporting
> standards.
>
> And less than a year ago MS publicly stated there was not going to be an
> update to IE until Longhorn, so I'm not sure where you get the impression
> that this is not a change in plans.
>
> As an FYI, I never make a purchase or technology decision for or against a
> technology just because it is or is not MS. In fact, many MS products meet
> my needs. Current IE does not.
>
> - Calvin
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:40 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)
>
> Its funny how you can pick a MS critic from a mile away. Yes, they
> just publicly announced that IE 7 will be released this summer, but I
> think you underestimate MS when you act like they are shooting from
> this hip. An update to an application to the scale of IE would have
> been planned well over a year ago. Most likely before Firefox was even
> in beta.
>
> Firefox is not a threat. It's just new and hot. Much like mozilla was
> on it's initial launch when these exact same conversation were had.
>
> AOL and google are both launching browsers soon (AOL based on IE ...
> not Mozilla). You would be naive to assume that they will just put out
> clones of existing browsers. What would be the financial gain in that?
> Soon you will be developing for those browsers inconsistencies as
> well.
>
> So do you people subscribe to an 'MS hater' email list, because its
> always the same crap on every MS related thread.. stale and without
> substance.
>
> But the bottom line is... who cares? You may love fireFox, but your
> love for Firefox isn't going to put it on the 90% of desktops who are
> happily surfing with IE.
>
> -Adam
>
>
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:03:29 -0500, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'm not entirely sure how your comments apply to my observations.
>>
>> Microsoft removed the competition for browsers and promptly ceased
> improving
>> their browser beyond the barest minimum.
>>
>> FireFox is beginning to penetrate the market again.
>>
>> Microsoft is now reversing their stance and improving their browser
> without
>> waiting on an OS (notice that Firefox isn't tied to an OS? That's the way
> it
>> all started, remember?).
>>
>> I think it's a good thing.
>>
>> - Calvin
>
>
>
> 

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RE: Verity vs. Lucene

[James Holmes]

One of the problems with Lucene is that you need to supply your own parsers.
CF Verity includes parsers for many of the common formats (even more in
CF7).

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Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2005 10:38 
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Subject: Verity vs. Lucene

I was wondering if anyone had done any real world comparisions of doing
searches using Verity vs. Lucene and which one won?

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RE: Sharing Application Sessions

[James Holmes]

They will all need to use the same application name (and therefore actually
be the same app). 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2005 11:32 
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Sharing Application Sessions

Hi All,

  I'm trying to create a "single sign on" system for several of my CFMX
apps. They all utilise the same security model and security objects, so I
figure there must be a way to allow me to log into 1 app, and switch to the
others without being prompted to login. This isn't currently a clustered
environment, but will move to that at some point.

  Has anybody implemented anything similar to this? The login details are
held in the users session, so I guess there must be an easy way to tell CF
to use an alternate session, or transfer it, to the other app.

Any ideas??

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Re: 2 to the power of 10

[Tony Weeg]

yeah, its fine now :)

i was doing this:

cfloop

#2 ^ thisQuery.currentRow#

/cfloop

and the value of thisQuery.currentRow wasnt changing, and all i was
getting was 2's

i fixed the input, and the output shapened up :)

and charlie... its both!


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:13:26 -0600, Greg Morphis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's working here Tony.. #2^10# gives me 1024
> 
> 
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:05:43 -0500, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > well, either im NUTS or thats just not working for me on blackstone/cfmx7?
> >
> > tw
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:54:58 -0600, Greg Morphis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > #2^10#
> > > heh ;)
> > >
> > > On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:48:05 -0500, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > hola peeps!
> > > >
> > > > is there a udf or something else to handle this simple calculation?
> > > >
> > > > i can do it myself, with some dumb code, just wondering if there is
> > > > something already built.
> > > >
> > > > later.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > tony
> > > >
> > > > Tony Weeg
> > > >
> > > > macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer
> > > > email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com
> > > > blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/
> > > > cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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RE: Sharing Application Sessions

[Dawson, Michael]

You can use multiple CFAPPLICATION tags in a single template, therefore,
switching applications in the process.

Call the first CFAPPLICATION and store its application-scope variables
in a different scope.  Then, call the second CFAPPLICATION and load its
application-scope variables from the different scope.

I'm not sure if this behavior is the same in CF7.

M!ke 

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Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:20 AM
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They will all need to use the same application name (and therefore
actually be the same app). 

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RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

[James Holmes]

If I were still building machines they'd ship with Firefox as the default
browser, but that's just me.

The stats for my non-tech site with 5000 unique visitors a month show IE at
85% and FF at 9% (so FF is now bigger than all the rest combined). Before
FF, Netscape was the "other browser" and it never got above 4%. Draw your
own conclusions.

-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 17 February 2005 12:18 
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

You know that one thing that everyone seems to miss in these "my browser is
bigger than your browser" threads is this:

We are techieswe like what we like...we understand it all and can see
the differences.

The average user (ya the ones that keep AOL in business etc.) do not.  They
buy a computer with Windows and IE on it...that is all they know.  For a lot
of them it's not a "browser"it's not "IE or FireFox"it's simply
known as the "Internet" (yes my mother calls her browser the Internet). 
This is an alien world to us techies and we have to remember to think like
those awful uneducated masses.

The only way I can see that FireFox (or any other newcomer) can truly make a
dent (and/or scare MS) is to convince computer manufacturers/retailers to
package FireFox with their computers.  That of course will require the
heavens to open up and large bolts of lightning will spill form and strike
Redmond ;-)

So until then...we can like what we will...but IE will remain Lord of the
Browsers.

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field's length???

[Johnny Le]

Hi,

I know that int type can hold from -2,147,483,648 to 2,147,483,647, but when we 
design the table, we put the length to be 4. So even if we set the length to 4, 
can it hold more than 4 digits? I believe it can, but I forgot the explanation 
for it. Something about 8^4, but that is the size of smallint and not int.

The same thing when we design a field for username, we put varchar(20), does 
that mean this field can only hold 20 characters?

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

[Jochem van Dieten]

Matthew Small wrote:
> That's really a stretch... a security system broken by design?  What's your
> source on that?

For instance
http://news.com.com/A+question+of+safety/2009-1001_3-208208.html

But one could also point to the browser-OS integration and using 
the browser as delivery mechanism for OS patches. Malware can try 
to access the same hooks and all is needed is tricking the user 
into clicking Yes once.

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RE: field's length???

[Dawson, Michael]

With int datatypes, the length is the number of bytes.  An int is
usually 4 bytes which is 32 bits.

2^32 = 4,294,967,296.

With ints, you don't specify the number of digits, you specify the upper
bounds of the number.

If you want to specify the number of digits, use a type of "numeric" or
"decimal".

Character-based fields are specified by the number of characters (bytes)
as you correctly state.

-Original Message-
From: Johnny Le [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:30 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: field's length???

Hi,

I know that int type can hold from -2,147,483,648 to 2,147,483,647, but
when we design the table, we put the length to be 4. So even if we set
the length to 4, can it hold more than 4 digits? I believe it can, but I
forgot the explanation for it. Something about 8^4, but that is the size
of smallint and not int.

The same thing when we design a field for username, we put varchar(20),
does that mean this field can only hold 20 characters?

Johnny

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

[Bryan Stevenson]

> The stats for my non-tech site with 5000 unique visitors a month show IE 
> at
> 85% and FF at 9% (so FF is now bigger than all the rest combined). Before
> FF, Netscape was the "other browser" and it never got above 4%. Draw your
> own conclusions.

1) Can you truly say that everyone that stops by your site (including 
developer testing) is a non-techie?

2) Yes...FF use has increased...but the point I'm trying to get across is 
that it will never hit that critical mass where it really yanks major 
marketshare from MS until it's bundled with new computers.

The only possible exception is that we techs tell every non-tech we know 
that they must have FF and we go and install it for them ;-)

Cheers

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RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

[Matthew Small]

So that's not a security hole in the browser but a security hole in the head
of the user... that's way different.

Furthermore, the article you are referencing says the same thing - the user
is giving permission to the app to run.  

So what is the issue here? 
Do you want a new security model because you don't like the old one? 
Do you just want the exploits to all be fixed at the same time?  
Do you want a host of new features without paying for it?

I don't think that 1 or 2 are going to happen.  

1 is improbable, 2 is impossible 

So what's the issue?  Just use Firefox.
 
- Matt Small

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Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 11:30 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

Matthew Small wrote:
> That's really a stretch... a security system broken by design?  What's
your
> source on that?

For instance
http://news.com.com/A+question+of+safety/2009-1001_3-208208.html

But one could also point to the browser-OS integration and using 
the browser as delivery mechanism for OS patches. Malware can try 
to access the same hooks and all is needed is tricking the user 
into clicking Yes once.

Jochem


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Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

[Stephen Moretti (cfmaster)]

Bryan Stevenson wrote:

>The only way I can see that FireFox (or any other newcomer) can truly make a 
>dent (and/or scare MS) is to convince computer manufacturers/retailers to 
>package FireFox with their computers.  That of course will require the 
>heavens to open up and large bolts of lightning will spill form and strike 
>Redmond ;-)
>  
>
The EU seems to be having a good go at this  Telling Bill to stop 
his unfair practices of wiring in Media Player et al


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Re: field's length???

[Robert Munn]

The 4 means that the int datatype uses four bytes of memory.

> I know that int type can hold from -2,147,483,648 to 2,147,483,647, 
> but when we design the table, we put the length to be 4. So even if we 
> set the length to 4, can it hold more than 4 digits? I believe it can, 
> but I forgot the explanation for it. Something about 8^4, but that is 
> the size of smallint and not int.

varchar(20) means that the field will store up to 20 characters, which is 20 
bytes. For Unicode support, e.g. nvarchar(20) in SQL Server 2000- (20) will 
allow up to 20 characters, but takes up to 40 bytes.

> 
> The same thing when we design a field for username, we put varchar(20), 
> does that mean this field can only hold 20 characters?
> 
Johnny

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RE: Form Error

[Mike Nimer]

Do you have a CFGRID in the form? Can you send me your cfml for the form?

What version of the CF are you running?

---nimer

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Subject: Form Error

Anyone ever seen this error:

500 Corrupt form data: no leading boundary: POST
/ENG/Recruiters/submittodepartment_confirm.cfm?szReturnTo=History_Parser
&szOrderID=844&szSearchType=Cache&szStart=0&szDepartmentID=0 HTTP/1.1 !=
-7d526118201a6


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RE: Sharing Application Sessions

[Katz, Dov B (IT)]

I do this with SSL pages.

My general app is 

Then in my SSL pages, 

They all have 







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Subject: RE: Sharing Application Sessions

You can use multiple CFAPPLICATION tags in a single template, therefore,
switching applications in the process.

Call the first CFAPPLICATION and store its application-scope variables
in a different scope.  Then, call the second CFAPPLICATION and load its
application-scope variables from the different scope.

I'm not sure if this behavior is the same in CF7.

M!ke 

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They will all need to use the same application name (and therefore
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RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

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CFMX J2EE multiple instances and max heap size

[Robert Munn]

When I change the max heap size in jvm.config, that setting affects all servers 
in JRun. So if I change that setting from 512MB to 200MB, does that mean that 
EACH server (each CFMX instance) gets 200 MB, or that ALL instances get a total 
of 200MB combined? Seems to me that it would be the latter. Anyone know for 
sure?

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