RE: way to import the C-Sharp code in ColdFusion.

2005-02-16 Thread Micha Schopman
For what I understand (but I could have misread it), he wants to convert
C# to CFML. And after that well.. run it :) Wether you choose BlueDragon
or MM CFMX to run that converted code, depends on if your code can run
on BlueDragon.

If you want to run C# code pick BlueDragon, if you purely want to
convert C# to CFML I think you are stuck. Simple things like interface,
are not yet available (in public) in CFMX releases.

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Re: Verity vs. Lucene

2005-02-16 Thread Adam Churvis
You may want to contact New Atlanta about Lucene.  If my memory serves me
correctly, they use it for the CFSEARCH functionality in BlueDragon, so they
should be quite knowledgeable about it.  They should at least be able to
refer you to the right sources.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Clingan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:37 AM
Subject: Verity vs. Lucene


> I was wondering if anyone had done any real world comparisions of doing
searches using Verity vs. Lucene and which one won?
>
> --Bob
>
>
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RE: Verity vs. Lucene

2005-02-16 Thread James Holmes
With luck it now searches PDF on Solaris without rebooting CF, but I have
yet to test this. 

-Original Message-
From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 17 February 2005 2:32 
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Verity vs. Lucene

Tom Jordahl wrote:

> But if you are using CFMX, check out the new features available in CFMX 7:
> Spelling correction, categorization, result highlighting, improved 
> search results, etc.

and of course it now searches unicode

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RE: SQL - LIKE vs. =

2005-02-16 Thread Adrian Lynch
Fire this off in QA and have a read of the error message:

CREATE TABLE #temp (col1 TEXT)

INSERT INTO #temp (col1) VALUES ('Hella Cool')

SELECT * FROM #temp WHERE col1 = 'Hella Cool'
--SELECT * FROM #temp WHERE col1 LIKE 'Hella Cool'

DROP TABLE #temp

Then switch the commented out line to the first SELECT statement.(You'll
have to drop the table for the second run)

Ade

-Original Message-
From: Cedric Villat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 February 2005 04:37
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SQL - LIKE vs. =


Ok, so I'm seeing something interesting. I have a field in my MSSQL which is
of type TEXT. I have a query that looks like:


SELECT ThreadID
FROM Threads
WHERE Header LIKE 


This query will return 0 results. Now if I change the field in the DB to be
of type VARCHAR and do something like:


SELECT ThreadID
FROM Threads
WHERE Header = 


This returns 1 record. The #emails.header# contains some carriage returns.
That is the only thing I can think of that is causing the second query to
work and the first query to fail.

Anyone know for sure if this is the reason, or is there something I'm
missing? In the first query I tried placing the %'s around the var, but that
didn't change anything. How can I compare these values if I want to keep the
field as a TEXT type?

Thanks,
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Re: Verity vs. Lucene

2005-02-16 Thread Paul Hastings
Tom Jordahl wrote:

> But if you are using CFMX, check out the new features available in CFMX 7:
> Spelling correction, categorization, result highlighting, improved search
> results, etc.

and of course it now searches unicode

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RE: Verity vs. Lucene

2005-02-16 Thread Tom Jordahl
Lucene is OK, if you want to index text and HTML in English.

There is a tag, CF_Lindex, out there somewhere (in a MM DRK I think) that
gives you a reasonable tag set that matches the built in one.

But if you are using CFMX, check out the new features available in CFMX 7:
Spelling correction, categorization, result highlighting, improved search
results, etc.

Not to mention that we are including a pretty expensive (check the price!)
enterprise quality search product in CFMX for free!

Yes, I am biased. :-)

Tom Jordahl
Macromedia Server Development 

-Original Message-
From: Bob Clingan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Verity vs. Lucene

I was wondering if anyone had done any real world comparisions of doing
searches using Verity vs. Lucene and which one won?

--Bob




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RE: why do e mails go into the Undelivr folder? is there any impr ovement in MX 7?

2005-02-16 Thread Tom Jordahl
Sure CF does: mail.log always contains the reason for the mail getting put
in undelivr.


Tom Jordahl
Macromedia Server Development 

-Original Message-
From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:11 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: why do e mails go into the Undelivr folder? is there any
improvement in MX 7?

I'm confused. IIS puts delivery reports in the BadMail folder when it
cant develier... or when its bounced back. CF has no such logs.

-Adam


On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:22:54 -0500, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Adrocknaphobia wrote:
> > In IIS on Windows servers just run a Virtual SMTP server and point CF
> > to deliver messages there.
> 
> Last time I used microsoft's SMTP server, it was virtually impossible to
> debug problems as far as delivery failures.  At least CFMX logs fairly
> reasonable delivery failure reasons... most of the time, they go into
> undeliverable because the target SMTP server refused the email.  I find
> this is pretty comment when people use cfmail and the user sets the from
> address.. like a form mail app... if they put some invalid email address
> in it, with no domain or spaces and stuff like that, a lot of mail
> servers will refuse to accept it...  I see that a lot.
> 
>  - Rick
> 
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RE: why do e mails go into the Undelivr folder? is there any impr ovement in MX 7?

2005-02-16 Thread Tom Jordahl
Rick,

> #1 - in a shared hosting environment, the "user" does not have the 
> ability to respool things, only the admin does.

#1 - the shared hosting is a problem, so I would expect those sites to use
#2.

> #2 - Other languages that do SMTP injection actually give an immediate 
> error that can be trapped by the page... like php will generate an error 
> immediately, because it connects to the SMTP server to send right away 
> (if you do it that way)...  with coldfusion, there's no way to know if 
> it has been sent, and in a shared environment, there's no OTHER way to 
> know if it's been sent either.

#2 - Of course you can do this, both in the admin and the tag:
SpoolEnable=no.  This attribute has been around since CFMX 6.0.

> I'd love to see a NOTIFY_ON_FAILURE option to CFMAIL that would allow CF 
> to send failure notifications to a specified address.   Ie, something 
> the programmers in a shared hosting environment could use.

We have the FailTo attribute which you can direct delivery failures to.
This assumes that the mail has reached the STMP server of course.  But you
have to see the irony of trying to send mail when I can't get a spooled mail
file to the mail server

http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/0297.htm

 
Tom Jordahl
Macromedia Server Development 

-Original Message-
From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:23 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: why do e mails go into the Undelivr folder? is there any impr
ovement in MX 7?

Tom Jordahl wrote:
> We explicitly do not have ColdFusion move undelivered mail in to the spool
> folder because we assume this should be a user initiated procedure.
> 
> We do not retry as a "proper" SMTP server does because CF *isn't* an SMTP
> server.  It expects that you will have a reliable SMTP server that you can
> at least spool the mail to, and since it is written explicitly to get mail
> where you want it to go and it will take care of any transient failures.

Tom, that's all very interesting, but there are a few issues.

#1 - in a shared hosting environment, the "user" does not have the 
ability to respool things, only the admin does.

#2 - Other languages that do SMTP injection actually give an immediate 
error that can be trapped by the page... like php will generate an error 
immediately, because it connects to the SMTP server to send right away 
(if you do it that way)...  with coldfusion, there's no way to know if 
it has been sent, and in a shared environment, there's no OTHER way to 
know if it's been sent either.

I'd love to see a NOTIFY_ON_FAILURE option to CFMAIL that would allow CF 
to send failure notifications to a specified address.   Ie, something 
the programmers in a shared hosting environment could use.

  - Rick




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RE: why do e mails go into the Undelivr folder? is there any impr ovement in MX 7?

2005-02-16 Thread Tom Jordahl
Thanks Dave, that is *exactly* what I meant.

I do NOT (and did not) insult the CF developer community - for reasons that
should be all too obvious: they pay my salary.

Tom Jordahl
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-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:57 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: why do e mails go into the Undelivr folder? is there any impr
ovement in MX 7?

> for future reference please don't not refer to _any_ cf developer
> methods as half-assed. It's not the type of community involvement we
> expect from MM.

In Tom's defense, I read his statement as meaning that, rather than CF
itself providing a half-assed implementation of SMTP, it simply acts as an
SMTP client. Not that Tom needs me to defend him, of course.

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SQL - LIKE vs. =

2005-02-16 Thread Cedric Villat
Ok, so I'm seeing something interesting. I have a field in my MSSQL which is of 
type TEXT. I have a query that looks like:


SELECT ThreadID
FROM Threads
WHERE Header LIKE 


This query will return 0 results. Now if I change the field in the DB to be of 
type VARCHAR and do something like:


SELECT ThreadID
FROM Threads
WHERE Header = 


This returns 1 record. The #emails.header# contains some carriage returns. That 
is the only thing I can think of that is causing the second query to work and 
the first query to fail.

Anyone know for sure if this is the reason, or is there something I'm missing? 
In the first query I tried placing the %'s around the var, but that didn't 
change anything. How can I compare these values if I want to keep the field as 
a TEXT type?

Thanks,
Cedric

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RE: way to import the C-Sharp code in ColdFusion.

2005-02-16 Thread Tom Jordahl
Asim,

Sure you can use C# code in Macromedia ColdFusion MX.

In general you should create a COM object and use the CFObject tag to
instantiate it.  You can then invoke methods on the object, just as you can
from C++ or Visual Basic.

Obviously we do not have a C# interpreter built in to CFMX. :-)

Tom Jordahl
Macromedia Server Development 

-Original Message-
From: Asim Manzur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 3:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: way to import the C-Sharp code in ColdFusion.

I am converting an application from ASP.NET to coldfusion. I was
wondering that is there anyway that I can import the C-Sharp codes
into the coldfusion template.

Like usually in 
ASP we do #include "filename
CFM we do 


How is this possible to do in coldfusion, is it something which I need
to use and register the COM Object??

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Re: Multi-Language_Shopping_Cart_-_English,_French,_Spanis h,_etc.

2005-02-16 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
>Does anyone know of a good multi-language shopping cart application? When I
>say multi-language, I mean English, French, Spanish, etc.

Depending on how immediate your needs are, there is currently a project in 
development to create a multi-language version of CFWebstore. Feel free to 
contact me off the list if you are interested or want more information. 


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Re: way to import the C-Sharp code in ColdFusion.

2005-02-16 Thread Nathan Strutz
Hey Vince,

How about ? That would be great.


Vince Bonfanti wrote:
> 
> Just because ColdFusion can't do it, doesn't mean it can't be done.
> 

While this is somewhat of a dig on what I said, I gotta at least hand it 
to your relentless marketing on cf-talk, while staying on-topic.

You did at least bring up a good point. When migrating an ASP.NET site 
to CF, bluedragon is a great tool.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

2005-02-16 Thread Rob
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:39:21 -0500, Ben Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think Firefox is a threat. The product is gaining market and
> > mindshare over IE pretty consistently, and if they want to stop it
> > they have to act now not before it gets to 30 or 50%. MSs plan (I
> > think I read this somewhere but cant remember)
> > is to get everyone off
> > the browser and write apps with their avalon thing anyway
> 
> Slashdot, perhaps?
> 

I think it might have been actually.
 
> I've seen no evidence of this -- outside of the conspiracy theorist blogs.
> As far as I can tell, they are trying to do the reverse: make traditional
> desktop applications deployable and updatable via the Web.

Um... how is that the opposite? Thats exactly what I said. From what I
understand (theory or not) the avalon apps act like Apple dash board
widget but on the desktop - no browser.
 
> > (kind of
> > like Flex for the desktop, but probably more complicated with
> > engineered in vulnerabilities). I'd even say MM is a threat to MS at
> > this point (unless they are playing footsie under the table)
> >
> > The more people that get hooked with complex apps in the browser the
> > more they'll have to convert later.  But MS says the only reason I've
> > heard they are upgrading is because "their customers asked for it"
> > (like they listen to them ;-D)
> 
> Have you ever personally spoken with a Microsoft employee or even read a few
> of their blogs?

Aside from support - no - read blog yes.

> As a Microsoft customer, we were asked to demonstrate an
> application that we had written. We met with project leaders from several
> teams. In many ways, the app we had written competed with what they were
> doing. So, with some of the teams, we discussed differing approaches to
> solving the same problem. With other teams, we discussed how they could
> market the product we'd written to their customers. It was an educational
> experience, much more useful than making the same old "us vs. them"
> argument.

So you wrote an app that competed with Microsoft, and they told you
what niche you would be allowed to work in with out them crushing you
 ok ... so?

> 
> > I'd bet IE7 is not going to be anything grand - it's going to be catch
> > up like it almost always is.
> 
> How so? Firefox only reached version 1 a few months ago. Safari has only
> been out for a year or so, I believe.

And already have more features and a safer experience than IE

> Between the release of Internet
> Explorer 4 and Safari, I can think of only two browsers that competed on a
> technical level: Opera and Mozilla. Opera failed to render many sites
> correctly (often because of bad browser detection, but that's the way it
> is). Although the Gecko engine is pretty nice, the Mozilla suite left a lot
> to be desired. Anyway, my point is, it seems like there were a few years
> there that Internet Explorer was the uncontested leader. And has it really
> slipped that far?

Yes. For sure, Netscape 4 was horrid. IE was the bomb at that point. I
talked many people off of netscape 4 onto IE because it was better by
far. IE sucks now.

> > They'll just add the basic features that
> > are in firefox so that the IE crowd who now say they don't need tabbed
> > browsing can say they love IE for its tabbed browsing
> 
> Ah, so now we're insulting Internet Explorer users as well as Microsoft. 

Absolutely not. I am saying I have seen, many times, people in the
"Microsoft Camp" say feature A is pointless no one will use it. Then
MS comes out with Feature A (claims they made it up most times), and
then the same people say Feature A is great!

>I guess I can respond since I'm one of those people who doesn't "need" tabbed
> browsing. I use Firefox religiously at home. I'd say that tabbed browsing
> hasn't revolutionized my surfing experience.

Well it has for a lot of people.

> I rarely miss it at work where I generally use Internet Explorer.
> 
> That said, I think the implementation of tabbed browsing in Firefox and
> Mozilla is very poor. 

How so? How can tabbed browsing be poor?

> There are some popular extensions that greatly enhance
> the experience. So, I'm not willing to judge based solely on my experiences
> with Firefox. Nevertheless, if Microsoft makes a better *default* tabbed
> browsing experience, well, good for them.

Ah, I see, so the MS tabbed browsing will be revolutionary and
redefine how you work eh? Whatever - fodder.

> It seems to me that browser innovation may really be dead when Web designers
> start trumpeting features like tabbed browsing.

IE has had *no* innovation. That is the point. Web designers are
stoked because someone is doing something to further the web
technology and experiences. Somewhere Microsoft has failed miserably
after having been knighted champion of browser war.

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Re: Alternatives to Windows SMTP service

2005-02-16 Thread Howie Hamlin
Can you telnet into that port from the cf server?

Regards,

hh

--- On Wednesday, February 16, 2005 8:36 PM, Eric Creese scribed: ---
>
> Ok so I am trying to get my SMTP working but when I changed all the
> port information and startted it I went into CFAdmin and set the Mail
> properties and it keeps failing?  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wed 2/16/2005 4:15 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Cc:
> Subject: RE: Alternatives to Windows SMTP service
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Outlook & Coldfusion

2005-02-16 Thread James Holmes
vCal is the standard format and cflib.org has a function for dealing with
it, but in Outlook all the appointment stuff will be obscured inside MS'
proprietary TNEF standard - I'd be surprised if this were easily
reproducible.

-Original Message-
From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 17 February 2005 5:09 
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Outlook & Coldfusion

Check out the vCal standard.  Also, if you create a meeting request in
Outlook and send it to a non-Microsoft mail client, you might be able to
view the headers and find the information that requests accepts/declines,
etc. 

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Mannion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:12 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Outlook & Coldfusion

Does anyone know if this can be done:

In outlook you can create appointments and send them to others for approval,
like accept, decline etc. Is there anyway for a cfmail to send this type of
appointment email? I don't think it can be that difficult, maybe just
sending different types of headers?

If anyone has see this done or has any advice please let me know.

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RE: WDDX Future

2005-02-16 Thread James Holmes
 
1) Are you using WDDX?

Yes

2) If so, how are you using it, which languages (and versions) are you using
it with (CF, JS, PHP, et al.)?

Storing complex variable types (structs stored in queries) from CF6.1
directly to the DB

3) Are you limited by the current version of the WDDX SDK?

No

4) If so, what features would you like to see included?

5) Should the WDDX community effort be revived and would you be willing to
actively help in this community effort to expand WDDX's capabilities?

CF does enough for me right now.

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RE: WDSL Q's

2005-02-16 Thread Clark Slater
Thanks Dave, you are the shiznit of ColdFusion.

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 5:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: WDSL Q's


> I'm trying to find the answers to a couple of (slightly) odd
> questions regarding consuming a non CF webservice for my 
> (slightly)odd client:
> 
> 1). Does the WSDL have to hve a file extension of .wsdl? Or
> can it have another name, such as myWDSLFile.xml?

It can have any extension you like. Most WSDL is generated upon demand - if
you publish a web service with CFMX, the URL will be something like
"http://.../myfile.cfc?wsdl";. If you're using a static file, your best bet
is to just give it a .xml extension I think.

> 2.) Does Cold Fusion care if the schema's (.xsd files) are
> located in a different place to the WSDL? (i.e. since the 
> WSDL specifies the XSD location)

To which schemas are you referring? WSDL files don't necessarily have their
own custom schema, they just use the defined schema for WSDL. If you do have
custom schemas, you will presumably need to ensure that they have valid
URLs. It doesn't matter where the schemas are physically located, as long as
the URLs given within your WSDL file resolve correctly, I suppose.

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Re: Thanks to Mike Nimer & Macromedia - (re: Flash forms)

2005-02-16 Thread Rick Mason
Irvin,

What change did you make to the CF administrator?  Might it be
something that anyone using Flash forms might want to do?


Rick Mason




On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:56:11 -0400, Irvin Gomez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry for the OT, but, given that I started the Flash forms thread here, this 
> follow-up would be (kind of) appropriate, too.
> 
> With Mike's extensive (about 2 hours on phone/breeze) help we tested all 
> possible reasons for the initial delay in loading (had been about 5 seconds). 
> A few adjustments to the CF Administrator and a freshly re-started computer 
> made the issue vanish.
> 
> While doing that, a far more  interesting and harder-to-detect problem was 
> solved: the  tag crashed CF MX7. To make the story short, it was one 
> (or several) of the fonts installed in the system (the suspects are some 
> fonts used to produce chess diagrams). As soon as we deleted those fonts, the 
> problem went away.
> 
> In any case, I'm a VERY happy camper and want to publicly thank Macromedia 
> (and Mike, especially) for the wonderful tech support.
> 
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RE: Alternatives to Windows SMTP service

2005-02-16 Thread Eric Creese
Ok so I am trying to get my SMTP working but when I changed all the port 
information and startted it I went into CFAdmin and set the Mail properties and 
it keeps failing?

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Wed 2/16/2005 4:15 PM 
To: CF-Talk 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Windows SMTP service


 



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RE: WDSL Q's

2005-02-16 Thread Dave Watts
> I'm trying to find the answers to a couple of (slightly) odd 
> questions regarding consuming a non CF webservice for my 
> (slightly)odd client:
> 
> 1). Does the WSDL have to hve a file extension of .wsdl? Or 
> can it have another name, such as myWDSLFile.xml?

It can have any extension you like. Most WSDL is generated upon demand - if
you publish a web service with CFMX, the URL will be something like
"http://.../myfile.cfc?wsdl";. If you're using a static file, your best bet
is to just give it a .xml extension I think.

> 2.) Does Cold Fusion care if the schema's (.xsd files) are 
> located in a different place to the WSDL? (i.e. since the 
> WSDL specifies the XSD location)

To which schemas are you referring? WSDL files don't necessarily have their
own custom schema, they just use the defined schema for WSDL. If you do have
custom schemas, you will presumably need to ensure that they have valid
URLs. It doesn't matter where the schemas are physically located, as long as
the URLs given within your WSDL file resolve correctly, I suppose.

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RE: way to import the C-Sharp code in ColdFusion.

2005-02-16 Thread Vince Bonfanti
Yes, there is a real way to do this. C# (and any .NET language) is fully
compatible with CFML, and you can invoke .NET code directly from CFML--using
BlueDragon.NET you can create and invoke any .NET object using CFOBJECT
(just as you can with Java objects on ColdFusion and the Java/J2EE editions
of BlueDragon).

 
http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/self_help/docs/6_2/BlueDragon_
62_CFML_on_ASP_NET.pdf

Just because ColdFusion can't do it, doesn't mean it can't be done.

Vince Bonfanti
New Atlanta Communications, LLC
http://www.newatlanta.com

> -Original Message-
> From: Nathan Strutz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 6:04 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: way to import the C-Sharp code in ColdFusion.
> 
> Sadly, there's no real way to do this.
> 
> c# isn't compatable with cfml
> c# and .NET managed code is not COM, and can't be treated 
> like a COM object.
> ..NET code can't be called from CF, except by command line 
> via cfexecute
> 
> Your best bet is to make a web service, or port the code by hand.
> 
> -nathan strutz
> http://www.dopefly.com/
> 
> 
> Asim Manzur wrote:
> > I am converting an application from ASP.NET to coldfusion. I was 
> > wondering that is there anyway that I can import the C-Sharp codes 
> > into the coldfusion template.
> > 
> > Like usually in
> > ASP we do #include "filename
> > CFM we do  > ASP.NET some ppl use behind code technique. which is <%@ Page 
> > language="c#" Codebehind="MyFile.aspx.cs"
> > AutoEventWireup="false" Inherits="PFP.CreateUserDocument" %>
> > 
> > 
> > How is this possible to do in coldfusion, is it something 
> which I need 
> > to use and register the COM Object??
> > 
> > Am I going to the right path?
> > 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: way to import the C-Sharp code in ColdFusion.

2005-02-16 Thread Vince Bonfanti
It's not possible to do this with ColdFusion. However, you can use
BlueDragon.NET (a CFML server alternative to ColdFusion), which offers
multiple ways to integrate CFML and ASP.NET code; for example:

  - use CFOBJECT to create and invoke .NET objects
  - use  to include ASP.NET pages within CFML
pages

You can download the latest pre-release version of BlueDragon.NET from:

  http://www.newatlanta.com/c/products/bluedragon-beta/download/home

Also, be sure to review the BlueDragon.NET user guide; a PDF version is
included with the installer; it's also available online:

 
http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/self_help/docs/6_2/BlueDragon_
62_CFML_on_ASP_NET.pdf 

Vince Bonfanti
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> -Original Message-
> From: Asim Manzur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 4:59 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: way to import the C-Sharp code in ColdFusion.
> 
> I am converting an application from ASP.NET to coldfusion. I 
> was wondering that is there anyway that I can import the 
> C-Sharp codes into the coldfusion template.
> 
> Like usually in
> ASP we do #include "filename
> CFM we do  ASP.NET some ppl use behind code technique. which is <%@ Page 
> language="c#" Codebehind="MyFile.aspx.cs"
> AutoEventWireup="false" Inherits="PFP.CreateUserDocument" %>
> 
> 
> How is this possible to do in coldfusion, is it something 
> which I need to use and register the COM Object??
> 
> Am I going to the right path?
> 
> --
> Regards,
> 
> 

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Multi-Language_Shopping_Cart_-_English,_French,_Spanis h,_etc.

2005-02-16 Thread Stan Winchester
Does anyone know of a good multi-language shopping cart application? When I
say multi-language, I mean English, French, Spanish, etc.

Thank you,
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Re: Using CFMAIL

2005-02-16 Thread Matt Robertson
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:10:11 -0600, Eric Creese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> does this mean I need to close the port 25 and open 2526?

If you've got stuff that is closing/monitoring ports (a firewall or
IPSEC policy) then yes.

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RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

2005-02-16 Thread dave
i know and i rarely ever get out what i mean lol, sorry bout that

 like i have said before, im a terrible typer and i talk a lot to the lil ones 
in my family via im's or txt messaging and im used to typing how they 
understand (most of them are younger than 5, so u know) and im usually in the 
middle of several things at once and I don't usually take enough time to write 
this properly.

 btw i have bought beavis macon teaches typing lol


From: "Bryan F. Hogan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 6:59 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms? 

Dave you have a style of writing that could easily be mis-interpreted.

-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 4:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

not saying he is just used him as an example because he chimed in and is a
known source, i coulda just as easily used Ben Forta, Nate Weiss, you or
anyone on here.

 I was mostly just replying to what was said
 "If you don't even know the basics in web
 development then I'd suggest people stick to flash forms, or don't try
 it at all, and leave the work to the people doing these things for their
 living."

 do you get it now?



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RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

2005-02-16 Thread dave
lol, you actually pulled out a funny Dave!!!


From: Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 7:02 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!) 

> Why would anyone outside of a developer care that IE doesn't meet W3C
> standards?

More importantly, why would anyone be inside of a developer?

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WDSL Q's

2005-02-16 Thread Clark Slater
Hey everyone,

I'm trying to find the answers to a couple of (slightly) odd questions
regarding consuming a non CF webservice for my (slightly)odd client:

1). Does the WSDL have to hve a file extension of .wsdl? Or can it have
another name, such as myWDSLFile.xml?

2.) Does Cold Fusion care if the schema's (.xsd files) are located in a
different place to the WSDL? (i.e. since the WSDL specifies the XSD
location)

Clark


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RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

2005-02-16 Thread dave
doesnt need to be a new os, the browser needs to be seperated from the os...too 
start at least

 or it wont be long until the venders start adding firefox to their installs


From: "Ben Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 7:00 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!) 

> To paraphrase Donald Rumsfeld, you go to the web with the computer you 
> have, not the computer you want or wish to have.

I wasn't arguing for a different OS. The XBox runs a kernel very similar to
the one found in Windows XP.

> It is possible to configure Windows securely, so that it can be a safe
> network client. I'm pretty comfortable that my laptop is adequately
> secure,
> for example. It's possible for Windows network administrators to configure
> machines so that they can be safely used as network clients. However,
> there's no reason why they couldn't be more secure by default.

I agree. In fact, I think the underlying security model in Windows
(everything is an object with ACLs even at the kernel level) is very solid.
However, the boxes you've described don't allow people to install software.
At least, most corporate networks that I've seen do not allow people to
install software. Some do not even permit users to surf to unapproved Web
sites.

> Yes. I do feel that it's a significant improvement, but there are still
> fundamental flaws in the underlying OS default settings. For example,
> there's no reason to run a browser with a user account that has
> administrative rights. But that's what most people do, because that's the
> default.

There is if you're installing software (Macromedia Flash, for instance) or
operating system updates via a Web browser. I'm not convinced that's a poor
distribution model. I tend to think it was poorly implemented and I have
hopes that it will be fixed. I think Windows XP Service Pack 2 goes a long
way towards that goal.

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RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

2005-02-16 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
Dave you have a style of writing that could easily be mis-interpreted.

-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 4:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

not saying he is just used him as an example because he chimed in and is a
known source, i coulda just as easily used Ben Forta, Nate Weiss, you or
anyone on here.

 I was mostly just replying to what was said
 "If you don't even know the basics in web
 development then I'd suggest people stick to flash forms, or don't try
 it at all, and leave the work to the people doing these things for their
 living."

 do you get it now?


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Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

2005-02-16 Thread dave
no im talking about business systems that code directly to only work on ie, 
thats not too tough to figure out.
 like farmers insurance has said that they spent millions on their agent system 
and that now only works with ie but they warn against using ie when browsing 
outside of their site. See now if farmers could use any browser they wanted it 
wouldnt be ie, so revenue lost, I think a lot of companies would do the same.
 Just like the ie dev team said on the w3c boards "why would ie go compliant? 
we couldnt make any money that way"
 As these companies are starting to learn that ie will never, ever be a good 
system for reg non techy users because of its connection to the os, they will 
start to explore other choices, its already happening, in case you havent 
noticed ;)

 you and others are right, most ppl dont know anything about it, theres just an 
"e" on the desktop that means internet. But dont bother to show them something 
else cause what good will it do, just sit there and push your pencil..

 the one user had the best idea lol
 go into all your friends and families puters and delete ie and put firefox on 
but replace the firefox logo with a blue e and all is good ;)

 And if you dont think thats true about ie then please explain to me why they 
can't or won't make ie compliant?


From: Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 5:12 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!) 

wow. so you're saying that MS will make IE 7 non compliant
intentionally so that they don't lose money?

is that because all of the users who paid for their copy of IE would
switch to another browser?

people aren't 'not switching' because IE is connected to the OS. the
majority use IE because the majority are not 'techies' and use what's
currently on the machine when they open the box and plug it in.

while i don't understand your argument, i do applaud your use of the
word 'lose' in the sentence 'they will lose money'. i would have bet
dollars to donuts that you would have typed 'loose' :)

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:47:46 -0500, dave  wrote:
> any browser thats directly connected to the os, should be concidered 
> "broken", any email client thats connected directly to the os should be 
> concidered "broken"
> 
> so long as ms keeps all their products connected (for easier user 
> interaction, so they say) its gunna be a mess.
> 
> And IF they actually did make IE7 compliant then that would give the users a 
> real choice of what browser to use and I think we know what would happen and 
> ms isnt about to let people have a real choice cause they will lose money.
> 
> 
> From: "Matthew Small" 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 11:01 AM
> To: CF-Talk 
> Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)
> 
> That's really a stretch... a security system broken by design? What's your
> source on that?
> 
> - Matt Small
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:26 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)
> 
> Matthew Small wrote:
> > OK, you're right... no plans to upgrade something from which they make no
> > money and have no competition. I suspect most companies would do the
> same.
> > The promise of a new browser for a new OS is a feature of that new OS,
> just
> > as most any new feature is part of an upgrade. Would you ask Macromedia to
> > backwards incorporate Flash Forms or CFCs in CF4.5?
> 
> If that was the only way to stop the onslaught of patches for
> never ending security holes in a product that we can now safely
> say has a security system that is broken by design I would do that.
> 
> Jochem
> 
> 



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Re: way to import the C-Sharp code in ColdFusion.

2005-02-16 Thread Nathan Strutz
Sadly, there's no real way to do this.

c# isn't compatable with cfml
c# and .NET managed code is not COM, and can't be treated like a COM object.
..NET code can't be called from CF, except by command line via cfexecute

Your best bet is to make a web service, or port the code by hand.

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> I am converting an application from ASP.NET to coldfusion. I was
> wondering that is there anyway that I can import the C-Sharp codes
> into the coldfusion template.
> 
> Like usually in 
> ASP we do #include "filename
> CFM we do  ASP.NET some ppl use behind code technique. which is 
> <%@ Page language="c#" Codebehind="MyFile.aspx.cs"
> AutoEventWireup="false" Inherits="PFP.CreateUserDocument" %>
> 
> 
> How is this possible to do in coldfusion, is it something which I need
> to use and register the COM Object??
> 
> Am I going to the right path?
> 


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re: Thanks to Mike Nimer & Macromedia - (re: Flash forms)

2005-02-16 Thread dave
as always they come through :)


From: Irvin Gomez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 4:25 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Thanks to Mike Nimer & Macromedia - (re: Flash forms) 

Sorry for the OT, but, given that I started the Flash forms thread here, this 
follow-up would be (kind of) appropriate, too.

With Mike's extensive (about 2 hours on phone/breeze) help we tested all 
possible reasons for the initial delay in loading (had been about 5 seconds). A 
few adjustments to the CF Administrator and a freshly re-started computer made 
the issue vanish.

While doing that, a far more interesting and harder-to-detect problem was 
solved: the  tag crashed CF MX7. To make the story short, it was one (or 
several) of the fonts installed in the system (the suspects are some fonts used 
to produce chess diagrams). As soon as we deleted those fonts, the problem went 
away.

In any case, I'm a VERY happy camper and want to publicly thank Macromedia (and 
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2005-02-16 Thread Greg Cerveny
If anyone is interested, I created a function to retrieve your
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RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

2005-02-16 Thread Dave Watts
> Why would anyone outside of a developer care that IE doesn't meet W3C
> standards?

More importantly, why would anyone be inside of a developer?

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RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

2005-02-16 Thread dave
in size wise how big is that?
 then take a base copy of xp and add all the patches, fixes, sp1,sp2 and so on 
what kinda size is that?
 xp patches and service packs alone are probably bigger than the whole os 
install

 and at least with your linux kernals its actually upgrading your linux system, 
i dont see where any patches or fixes are actually upgrading xp at all


From: "Ben Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 5:11 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!) 

> if ms keeps on their path they should send every ms user a free hard drive
> just to store all their patches & fixes on, cause its ridiculas how much
> space they take up.

If you think that's bad, you should try running RedHat Enterprise Linux.
Every time I turn around I've got 10 things waiting to install. I installed
at least 10 kernels alone in a one year period.

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RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

2005-02-16 Thread Ben Rogers
> To paraphrase Donald Rumsfeld, you go to the web with the computer you 
> have, not the computer you want or wish to have.

I wasn't arguing for a different OS. The XBox runs a kernel very similar to
the one found in Windows XP.

> It is possible to configure Windows securely, so that it can be a safe
> network client. I'm pretty comfortable that my laptop is adequately
> secure,
> for example. It's possible for Windows network administrators to configure
> machines so that they can be safely used as network clients. However,
> there's no reason why they couldn't be more secure by default.

I agree. In fact, I think the underlying security model in Windows
(everything is an object with ACLs even at the kernel level) is very solid.
However, the boxes you've described don't allow people to install software.
At least, most corporate networks that I've seen do not allow people to
install software. Some do not even permit users to surf to unapproved Web
sites.

> Yes. I do feel that it's a significant improvement, but there are still
> fundamental flaws in the underlying OS default settings. For example,
> there's no reason to run a browser with a user account that has
> administrative rights. But that's what most people do, because that's the
> default.

There is if you're installing software (Macromedia Flash, for instance) or
operating system updates via a Web browser. I'm not convinced that's a poor
distribution model. I tend to think it was poorly implemented and I have
hopes that it will be fixed. I think Windows XP Service Pack 2 goes a long
way towards that goal.

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RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

2005-02-16 Thread Calvin Ward
They typically don't, unless they are paying the developer to develop a web
based application that is cross browser and has 'advanced' capabilities for
the end user. Then they indirectly care by caring about the cost.

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 4:48 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

The only people who care if a browser is complaint are web developers.
Why would anyone outside of a developer care that IE doesn't meet W3C
standards?

-Adam


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:47:46 -0500, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> any browser thats directly connected to the os, should be concidered
"broken", any email client thats connected directly to the os should be
concidered "broken"
> 
> so long as ms keeps all their products connected (for easier user
interaction, so they say) its gunna be a mess.
> 
> And IF they actually did make IE7 compliant then that would give the users
a real choice of what browser to use and I think we know what would happen
and ms isnt about to let people have a real choice cause they will lose
money.
> 
> 
> From: "Matthew Small" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 11:01 AM
> To: CF-Talk 
> Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)
> 
> That's really a stretch... a security system broken by design? What's your
> source on that?
> 
> - Matt Small
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:26 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)
> 
> Matthew Small wrote:
> > OK, you're right... no plans to upgrade something from which they make
no
> > money and have no competition. I suspect most companies would do the
> same.
> > The promise of a new browser for a new OS is a feature of that new OS,
> just
> > as most any new feature is part of an upgrade. Would you ask Macromedia
to
> > backwards incorporate Flash Forms or CFCs in CF4.5?
> 
> If that was the only way to stop the onslaught of patches for
> never ending security holes in a product that we can now safely
> say has a security system that is broken by design I would do that.
> 
> Jochem
> 
> 



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Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

2005-02-16 Thread dave
so when my client is on safari and i make their site with no regards to 
compliency and they go look at it on safari and they cant even tell what it is, 
yeah who gives a crap, i mean its ok in at least in ie, just none of the 
others. Im sure the client will be so damn happy that they will refer me too 
all their friends!!

 go tell a blind person that no one cares about compliancy and see which finger 
they give you, at least you can see which finger it is, if you wore glasses 
made by ms you wouldnt ;)


From: Adrocknaphobia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 5:15 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!) 

The only people who care if a browser is complaint are web developers.
Why would anyone outside of a developer care that IE doesn't meet W3C
standards?

-Adam

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:47:46 -0500, dave  wrote:
> any browser thats directly connected to the os, should be concidered 
> "broken", any email client thats connected directly to the os should be 
> concidered "broken"
> 
> so long as ms keeps all their products connected (for easier user 
> interaction, so they say) its gunna be a mess.
> 
> And IF they actually did make IE7 compliant then that would give the users a 
> real choice of what browser to use and I think we know what would happen and 
> ms isnt about to let people have a real choice cause they will lose money.
> 
> 
> From: "Matthew Small" 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 11:01 AM
> To: CF-Talk 
> Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)
> 
> That's really a stretch... a security system broken by design? What's your
> source on that?
> 
> - Matt Small
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:26 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)
> 
> Matthew Small wrote:
> > OK, you're right... no plans to upgrade something from which they make no
> > money and have no competition. I suspect most companies would do the
> same.
> > The promise of a new browser for a new OS is a feature of that new OS,
> just
> > as most any new feature is part of an upgrade. Would you ask Macromedia to
> > backwards incorporate Flash Forms or CFCs in CF4.5?
> 
> If that was the only way to stop the onslaught of patches for
> never ending security holes in a product that we can now safely
> say has a security system that is broken by design I would do that.
> 
> Jochem
> 
> 



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Re: way to import the C-Sharp code in ColdFusion.

2005-02-16 Thread Micha Schopman
This is not possible due to the advanced nature of the C# language.

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Re: WDDX Future

2005-02-16 Thread Barney Boisvert
In Java, for example, objects aren't serialized as an object, just
their class name and instance data is serialized.  Then on the
receiving end, a class of the same type is instnatiated, and the
serialized instance data is injected into the new instnace.  This has
a couple consequences: 1) you don't need to worry about sending
objects, just data, and 2) you must have all serialized classes on
BOTH sides of the transaction.

cheers,
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> Wonder how bloated object serialization would be...
> 

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RE: Using CFMAIL

2005-02-16 Thread Eric Creese
does this mean I need to close the port 25 and open 2526?

-Original Message-
From: Eric Creese 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Using CFMAIL


Thanks I will give it a try

-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Using CFMAIL


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 08:54:52 -0600, Eric Creese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes I do need that help cause I would like to use it. What else can I use 
> that is FREE?

Well, tons of stuff, but when it comes to mail I'm not sure free
equals anything worth having.

As Paul pointed out you should be able to restrict MS SMTP to your CF
IP.  The fact that you are getting bombed by other mail providers is a
sign that quite possibly there have been bad things happening at that
IP in the past.  Sort of like bees knowing where the honey is.  At a
guess you were running the service without the restrictions below in
the past?

Looked at MS SMTP.  Looks pretty straightforward.  Click Properties
and, on the Access tab, set the IP for the CF server in both
Connection Control and Relay Restrictions.  Make that the only one
allowed.

The bad guys are pounding on the default port 25 when you switch on
the service, so change it.  On the General tab click Advanced next to
the IP address and change the port to something safe and different,
like 2526.  That should keep the rain off your tin roof, so to speak.

When you set up the CF mail settings, be sure to send mail via the
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RE: Alternatives to Windows SMTP service

2005-02-16 Thread Rick Faircloth
Hi, Eric...

I do the same thing for my clients and just make use of Windows SMTP
Service...
works like a charm.  I don't run a full-fledged mail server...just something
that sends
mail and prevents my ISP from not sending out all my emails because I reach
a cap
that they put on how much email a user can send to prevent spamming...

Rick


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Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 1:41 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Windows SMTP service


Not sure if I mentioned or not but I do not offer email service to my
clients they usually get that from their ISP. I simply build sites and host
them for them. And in my sites I have some very basic features that send
emails from my server from the app but the apps are not email applications
like outlook or something like that. They ar esimple communication pieces.



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Re: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

2005-02-16 Thread Micha Schopman
Dave, what errors do you get. It is FireFox compatible, and is used in 
production where FireFox users use her. I don't get any errors here :)

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

2005-02-16 Thread Bryan Stevenson
> people aren't 'not switching' because IE is connected to the OS.  the
> majority use IE because the majority are not 'techies' and use what's
> currently on the machine when they open the box and plug it in.

Finally...somneone gets what I'm saying ;-) (had to happen sometime...hehe)

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way to import the C-Sharp code in ColdFusion.

2005-02-16 Thread Asim Manzur
I am converting an application from ASP.NET to coldfusion. I was
wondering that is there anyway that I can import the C-Sharp codes
into the coldfusion template.

Like usually in 
ASP we do #include "filename
CFM we do 


How is this possible to do in coldfusion, is it something which I need
to use and register the COM Object??

Am I going to the right path?

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RE: WDDX Future

2005-02-16 Thread Calvin Ward
Wonder how bloated object serialization would be...

-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 4:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: WDDX Future

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:27:58 -0500, Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just wanted to take a survey on WDDX. 
> 
> 1) Are you using WDDX?

Yep

> 2) If so, how are you using it, which languages (and versions) are you
using
> it with (CF, JS, PHP, et al.)?

CF and JS

> 3) Are you limited by the current version of the WDDX SDK?

Not really.

> 5) Should the WDDX community effort be revived and would you be willing to
> actively help in this community effort to expand WDDX's capabilities?

I don't know what it would do.  I mean, WDDX is already functional,
and the types of data that need serialization hasn't really changed.

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RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

2005-02-16 Thread Calvin Ward
That's the rub though, browsers allow the user to install software from the
web with ease.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:54 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

> That's what I do. I also encourage others to do that. However, I can't
> just
> tell my computer-illiterate father-in-law to download Firefox, and he
> shouldn't have to know how to install software to use his computer to
> browse
> the web.

Perhaps the problem is that less computer literate people should be surfing
off of set top boxes instead of desktop or workstation machines. I don't
mean that as insult and I don't mean to be demeaning (I'm well aware that
type of statement is) but I think that the reality is that security and easy
of use are often on opposite sides of the same spectrum. If a person can't
be expected to learn how to install software, then he or she should have an
appliance in front of them that doesn't allow them to install software.

Ultimately, I think this is the fundamental failure of Windows: Microsoft's
trying to make one operating system for everyone. The differences between
Home, Professional, and Media Center are superficial at best. I think what's
needed is a surfing experience that's more akin to putting a game in an
Xbox. I thought some of the Linux distributions were going to provide that,
but I haven't seen it yet.

> The IE security model is seriously broken, largely due to how well it's
> integrated with the OS and due to the fact that practically everyone runs
> IE
> using administrative privileges. Jochem is absolutely right here (as
> usual).

Out of curiosity, do you feel the same way about Windows XP Service Pack 2?

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RE: Using CFMAIL

2005-02-16 Thread Eric Creese
Thanks I will give it a try

-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Using CFMAIL


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 08:54:52 -0600, Eric Creese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes I do need that help cause I would like to use it. What else can I use 
> that is FREE?

Well, tons of stuff, but when it comes to mail I'm not sure free
equals anything worth having.

As Paul pointed out you should be able to restrict MS SMTP to your CF
IP.  The fact that you are getting bombed by other mail providers is a
sign that quite possibly there have been bad things happening at that
IP in the past.  Sort of like bees knowing where the honey is.  At a
guess you were running the service without the restrictions below in
the past?

Looked at MS SMTP.  Looks pretty straightforward.  Click Properties
and, on the Access tab, set the IP for the CF server in both
Connection Control and Relay Restrictions.  Make that the only one
allowed.

The bad guys are pounding on the default port 25 when you switch on
the service, so change it.  On the General tab click Advanced next to
the IP address and change the port to something safe and different,
like 2526.  That should keep the rain off your tin roof, so to speak.

When you set up the CF mail settings, be sure to send mail via the
port you set up above.

I'm no expert on IIS SMTP, so anyone please chime in with anything I missed.
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RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

2005-02-16 Thread Ben Rogers
> if ms keeps on their path they should send every ms user a free hard drive
> just to store all their patches & fixes on, cause its ridiculas how much
> space they take up.

If you think that's bad, you should try running RedHat Enterprise Linux.
Every time I turn around I've got 10 things waiting to install. I installed
at least 10 kernels alone in a one year period.

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RE: Outlook & Coldfusion

2005-02-16 Thread Dawson, Michael
Check out the vCal standard.  Also, if you create a meeting request in
Outlook and send it to a non-Microsoft mail client, you might be able to
view the headers and find the information that requests
accepts/declines, etc. 

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Mannion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:12 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Outlook & Coldfusion

Does anyone know if this can be done:

In outlook you can create appointments and send them to others for
approval, like accept, decline etc. Is there anyway for a cfmail to send
this type of appointment email? I don't think it can be that difficult,
maybe just sending different types of headers?

If anyone has see this done or has any advice please let me know.

thanks

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

2005-02-16 Thread Adrocknaphobia
The only people who care if a browser is complaint are web developers.
Why would anyone outside of a developer care that IE doesn't meet W3C
standards?

-Adam


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:47:46 -0500, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> any browser thats directly connected to the os, should be concidered 
> "broken", any email client thats connected directly to the os should be 
> concidered "broken"
> 
> so long as ms keeps all their products connected (for easier user 
> interaction, so they say) its gunna be a mess.
> 
> And IF they actually did make IE7 compliant then that would give the users a 
> real choice of what browser to use and I think we know what would happen and 
> ms isnt about to let people have a real choice cause they will lose money.
> 
> 
> From: "Matthew Small" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 11:01 AM
> To: CF-Talk 
> Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)
> 
> That's really a stretch... a security system broken by design? What's your
> source on that?
> 
> - Matt Small
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:26 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)
> 
> Matthew Small wrote:
> > OK, you're right... no plans to upgrade something from which they make no
> > money and have no competition. I suspect most companies would do the
> same.
> > The promise of a new browser for a new OS is a feature of that new OS,
> just
> > as most any new feature is part of an upgrade. Would you ask Macromedia to
> > backwards incorporate Flash Forms or CFCs in CF4.5?
> 
> If that was the only way to stop the onslaught of patches for
> never ending security holes in a product that we can now safely
> say has a security system that is broken by design I would do that.
> 
> Jochem
> 
> 

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RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

2005-02-16 Thread Dave Watts
> Perhaps the problem is that less computer literate people should be
> surfing off of set top boxes instead of desktop or workstation 
> machines. I don't mean that as insult and I don't mean to be demeaning 
> (I'm well aware that type of statement is) but I think that the reality 
> is that security and easy of use are often on opposite sides of the 
> same spectrum. If a person can't be expected to learn how to install 
> software, then he or she should have an appliance in front of them that 
> doesn't allow them to install software.

To paraphrase Donald Rumsfeld, you go to the web with the computer you have,
not the computer you want or wish to have.

It is possible to configure Windows securely, so that it can be a safe
network client. I'm pretty comfortable that my laptop is adequately secure,
for example. It's possible for Windows network administrators to configure
machines so that they can be safely used as network clients. However,
there's no reason why they couldn't be more secure by default.

> Out of curiosity, do you feel the same way about Windows XP Service 
> Pack 2?

Yes. I do feel that it's a significant improvement, but there are still
fundamental flaws in the underlying OS default settings. For example,
there's no reason to run a browser with a user account that has
administrative rights. But that's what most people do, because that's the
default.

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Re: why do e mails go into the Undelivr folder? is there any impr ovement in MX 7?

2005-02-16 Thread Matt Robertson
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 03:50:47 -0500, Tom Jordahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Hope that helps clarify things.

In my admittedly imperfect opinion it looks like you guys just glossed
over this and didn't think it though very well.  Understandable since
cfmail got a lot of attention in 6.1 and you were looking to do higher
and mightier things with other aspects of the product in 7 (and
succeeded, I think).

Regardless, CF needs a mail retry feature.  The solution I cobbled
together yesterday from someone else's previous work should do the
trick.  You can expand on it without too much trouble and send a
failed/deleted email back to the sender, or failing that to the
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Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

2005-02-16 Thread Charlie Griefer
wow.  so you're saying that MS will make IE 7 non compliant
intentionally so that they don't lose money?

is that because all of the users who paid for their copy of IE would
switch to another browser?

people aren't 'not switching' because IE is connected to the OS.  the
majority use IE because the majority are not 'techies' and use what's
currently on the machine when they open the box and plug it in.

while i don't understand your argument, i do applaud your use of the
word 'lose' in the sentence 'they will lose money'.  i would have bet
dollars to donuts that you would have typed 'loose' :)


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:47:46 -0500, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> any browser thats directly connected to the os, should be concidered 
> "broken", any email client thats connected directly to the os should be 
> concidered "broken"
> 
>  so long as ms keeps all their products connected (for easier user 
> interaction, so they say) its gunna be a mess.
> 
>  And IF they actually did make IE7 compliant then that would give the users a 
> real choice of what browser to use and I think we know what would happen and 
> ms isnt about to let people have a real choice cause they will lose money.
> 
> 
> From: "Matthew Small" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 11:01 AM
> To: CF-Talk 
> Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)
> 
> That's really a stretch... a security system broken by design? What's your
> source on that?
> 
> - Matt Small
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:26 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)
> 
> Matthew Small wrote:
> > OK, you're right... no plans to upgrade something from which they make no
> > money and have no competition. I suspect most companies would do the
> same.
> > The promise of a new browser for a new OS is a feature of that new OS,
> just
> > as most any new feature is part of an upgrade. Would you ask Macromedia to
> > backwards incorporate Flash Forms or CFCs in CF4.5?
> 
> If that was the only way to stop the onslaught of patches for
> never ending security holes in a product that we can now safely
> say has a security system that is broken by design I would do that.
> 
> Jochem
> 
> 

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Re: WDDX Future

2005-02-16 Thread Barney Boisvert
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:27:58 -0500, Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just wanted to take a survey on WDDX. 
> 
> 1) Are you using WDDX?

Yep

> 2) If so, how are you using it, which languages (and versions) are you using
> it with (CF, JS, PHP, et al.)?

CF and JS

> 3) Are you limited by the current version of the WDDX SDK?

Not really.

> 5) Should the WDDX community effort be revived and would you be willing to
> actively help in this community effort to expand WDDX's capabilities?

I don't know what it would do.  I mean, WDDX is already functional,
and the types of data that need serialization hasn't really changed.

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RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

2005-02-16 Thread Ben Rogers
> That's what I do. I also encourage others to do that. However, I can't
> just
> tell my computer-illiterate father-in-law to download Firefox, and he
> shouldn't have to know how to install software to use his computer to
> browse
> the web.

Perhaps the problem is that less computer literate people should be surfing
off of set top boxes instead of desktop or workstation machines. I don't
mean that as insult and I don't mean to be demeaning (I'm well aware that
type of statement is) but I think that the reality is that security and easy
of use are often on opposite sides of the same spectrum. If a person can't
be expected to learn how to install software, then he or she should have an
appliance in front of them that doesn't allow them to install software.

Ultimately, I think this is the fundamental failure of Windows: Microsoft's
trying to make one operating system for everyone. The differences between
Home, Professional, and Media Center are superficial at best. I think what's
needed is a surfing experience that's more akin to putting a game in an
Xbox. I thought some of the Linux distributions were going to provide that,
but I haven't seen it yet.

> The IE security model is seriously broken, largely due to how well it's
> integrated with the OS and due to the fact that practically everyone runs
> IE
> using administrative privileges. Jochem is absolutely right here (as
> usual).

Out of curiosity, do you feel the same way about Windows XP Service Pack 2?

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RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

2005-02-16 Thread dave
the last link throws a bunch of js errors on firefox


From: "Micha Schopman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:28 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms? 

www.mschopman.demon.nl/treeview_v1.6/ 
http://www.mschopman.demon.nl/treeview_v1.6.rar 

www.mschopman.demon.nl/menu/ (images missing, too lazy with uploading,
offset is quick n dirty) 

Both need documentation, but that is currently in progress. When their done
I'll create the site for them, for the masses. Their both OO JS, so
extensions are quickly written, and this counts for bugfixes as well.

The treeview is displayed with some example methods and is based towards web
application usage. It doesn't trigger the IE image bugs. The treeviews from
webfx do, and Erik Arvidsson has a version 2 ready, but not yet released.
>From what he told me he fixed these issues also in his version. 

Menu contains an implemented observer/listener so you can handle commands to
specific parts in your web interface. Once you make a change in state, the
observer sees this, and notifies all listening commands to update their
state (disabled, enabled, show, hide, etc.) 

The seperator automatically groups command buttons. The menu can be used as
a contextmenu, and a normal menu, or a floating menu. You feed her with XML
or static Javascript. She doesn't need water. The same for the treeview, you
are allowed to use xml and static commands. Multiple menu's and treeviews
are allowed on a page. 

For questions or help, just MSN me, if I'm there I'll respond. 
msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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From: Sparrow-Hood, Walter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: woensdag 16 februari 2005 16:51 
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms? 

Micha, 
 Where are they available? 

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

2005-02-16 Thread dave
if ms keeps on their path they should send every ms user a free hard drive just 
to store all their patches & fixes on, cause its ridiculas how much space they 
take up.


From: Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 11:18 AM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!) 

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:39:37 -0500, Adrocknaphobia
 wrote:
> Its funny how you can pick a MS critic from a mile away. Yes, they
> just publicly announced that IE 7 will be released this summer, 

I think they said a _beta_ will be ready this summer for 2003 and XP

> Firefox is not a threat. It's just new and hot. Much like mozilla was
> on it's initial launch when these exact same conversation were had.

I think Firefox is a threat. The product is gaining market and
mindshare over IE pretty consistently, and if they want to stop it
they have to act now not before it gets to 30 or 50%. MSs plan (I
think I read this somewhere but cant remember) is to get everyone off
the browser and write apps with their avalon thing anyway (kind of
like Flex for the desktop, but probably more complicated with
engineered in vulnerabilities). I'd even say MM is a threat to MS at
this point (unless they are playing footsie under the table)

The more people that get hooked with complex apps in the browser the
more they'll have to convert later. But MS says the only reason I've
heard they are upgrading is because "their customers asked for it"
(like they listen to them ;-D)

I'd bet IE7 is not going to be anything grand - it's going to be catch
up like it almost always is. They'll just add the basic features that
are in firefox so that the IE crowd who now say they don't need tabbed
browsing can say they love IE for its tabbed browsing

> So do you people subscribe to an 'MS hater' email list, because its
> always the same crap on every MS related thread.. stale and without
> substance.
> 
> But the bottom line is... who cares? You may love fireFox, but your
> love for Firefox isn't going to put it on the 90% of desktops who are
> happily surfing with IE.

I wouldn't say happily which is kind of the point ;)

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RE: Outlook & Coldfusion

2005-02-16 Thread Adkins, Randy
Why not send them a vcf(think that's correct) file?  Then let them do
that.
We are implementing something like that into one of the 
applications here. 

I know it works, cause we have done it already just not released it yet.

Maybe I can find that code again if you need.

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Mannion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:12 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Outlook & Coldfusion

Does anyone know if this can be done:

In outlook you can create appointments and send them to others for
approval, like accept, decline etc. Is there anyway for a cfmail to send
this type of appointment email? I don't think it can be that difficult,
maybe just sending different types of headers?

If anyone has see this done or has any advice please let me know.

thanks

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RE: MedSeek

2005-02-16 Thread Dawson, Michael
I'm not sure about the product, but you might try www.deaconess.com.
They use a CMS written for the medical industry.

You might be able to check the page source for any clues.  If not, let
me know and I'll ask the guy who handles their web site.

M!ke 

-Original Message-
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: MedSeek

Has anyone used MedSeek Content Management software?  We are a hospital
system and we are looking at them as a possible vendor.

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RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

2005-02-16 Thread dave
not saying he is just used him as an example because he chimed in and is a 
known source, i coulda just as easily used Ben Forta, Nate Weiss, you or anyone 
on here.

 I was mostly just replying to what was said
 "If you don't even know the basics in web
 development then I'd suggest people stick to flash forms, or don't try
 it at all, and leave the work to the people doing these things for their
 living."

 do you get it now?


From: "Bryan F. Hogan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:29 AM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms? 

Dave, Ray is not the end all be all. Ray has plusses and minuses just like
the rest of us. But I do not feel that Mecha was in any way implying that
Ray doesn't know what he is doing.

You're right, you use what is right for the job. We are not arguing that, we
are arguing the strengths and weaknesses of Flash Forms. In doing so it
allows people like Mike to hear what we have to say. Communication.

-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

that what you said was totally uncalled for.
 Do you realize that you just told Raymond Camden that he's not good enough
to make a web app? Because he's using flash forms and he should leave it to
you.
 Thats pretty bold, i mean i say some retarded things but geezo..

 You may not have a use for them but maybe when you get smacked by a truck
and are in the hospital and the doctor has his pocket puter out and gets all
your info in correctly because hes using an app that uses flash forms and
was able to more quickly enter in the important info in by tabbing through
the normal 20 pages of input info and only getting what is needed in, it
just might save your life. 

 Like i been told so many times before "use whats right for the job" 



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Mike Nimer & Macromedia (re: Flash Forms)

2005-02-16 Thread Irvin Gomez
With Mike's extensive (about 2 hours on phone/breeze) help we tested all 
possible reasons for the initial delay in loading (had been about 5 seconds). A 
few adjustments to the CF Administrator and a freshly re-started computer made 
the issue vanish.

While doing that, a far more  interesting and harder-to-detect problem was 
solved: the  tag crashed CF MX7. To make the story short, it was one 
(or several) of the fonts installed in the system (the suspects are some fonts 
used to produce chess diagrams). As soon as we deleted those fonts, the problem 
went away.

In any case, I'm a VERY happy camper and want to publicly thank Macromedia (and 
Mike, especially) for the wonderful tech support.

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Re: Javascript question

2005-02-16 Thread John Wilker
thank you gentlemen!!! The <= is no < and that worked perfectly.

I'm redesigning to use the while loop, thanks for that as well. Much obliged.

J


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:55:19 -0400, Micha Schopman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I did some refactoring for you :) while loops in javascript are quicker than 
> for loops.
> 
> function Validator() {
> var myform = document.getElementById('SuggestionForm');
> var errMsg = ''
> var checkboxcounter = 0;
> 
> if (myform.SuggestionText.value.length <= 0){
>   errMsg += '- Please explain your suggestion.\n\r'
> }
> 
> if (myform.SuggestTitle.value.value.length <= 0){
>   errMsg += '- Your suggestion needs a title.\n\r'
> }
> 
> var i=myform.Impact.length;while(i--){
>   if(myform.Impact[i].checked){
> checkboxcounter++;
>   }
> }
> 
> if (errMsg.length > 0) {
>   alert(errMsg)
> }else{
>  myform.submit()
> }
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Re: Using CFMAIL

2005-02-16 Thread Matt Robertson
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 08:54:52 -0600, Eric Creese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes I do need that help cause I would like to use it. What else can I use 
> that is FREE?

Well, tons of stuff, but when it comes to mail I'm not sure free
equals anything worth having.

As Paul pointed out you should be able to restrict MS SMTP to your CF
IP.  The fact that you are getting bombed by other mail providers is a
sign that quite possibly there have been bad things happening at that
IP in the past.  Sort of like bees knowing where the honey is.  At a
guess you were running the service without the restrictions below in
the past?

Looked at MS SMTP.  Looks pretty straightforward.  Click Properties
and, on the Access tab, set the IP for the CF server in both
Connection Control and Relay Restrictions.  Make that the only one
allowed.

The bad guys are pounding on the default port 25 when you switch on
the service, so change it.  On the General tab click Advanced next to
the IP address and change the port to something safe and different,
like 2526.  That should keep the rain off your tin roof, so to speak.

When you set up the CF mail settings, be sure to send mail via the
port you set up above.

I'm no expert on IIS SMTP, so anyone please chime in with anything I missed.
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OT: Access index limitations

2005-02-16 Thread Rick Root
We've got a reporting app written in VB that uses a large access 
database.  One table has 32 indexes on it, and apparently this is a 
limitation.

We're moving to SQL Server, but our interim solution is to use a blank 
access database that passes through everything to SQL Server.

However, the 32 index limitation still seems to be in place?

Anyone ever come across this and is there a workaround, aside from 
eliminating Access entirely?   (That IS our long term objective)

  - Rick

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RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

2005-02-16 Thread dave
any browser thats directly connected to the os, should be concidered "broken", 
any email client thats connected directly to the os should be concidered 
"broken"

 so long as ms keeps all their products connected (for easier user interaction, 
so they say) its gunna be a mess.

 And IF they actually did make IE7 compliant then that would give the users a 
real choice of what browser to use and I think we know what would happen and ms 
isnt about to let people have a real choice cause they will lose money.


From: "Matthew Small" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 11:01 AM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!) 

That's really a stretch... a security system broken by design? What's your
source on that?

- Matt Small

-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

Matthew Small wrote:
> OK, you're right... no plans to upgrade something from which they make no
> money and have no competition. I suspect most companies would do the
same.
> The promise of a new browser for a new OS is a feature of that new OS,
just
> as most any new feature is part of an upgrade. Would you ask Macromedia to
> backwards incorporate Flash Forms or CFCs in CF4.5?

If that was the only way to stop the onslaught of patches for 
never ending security holes in a product that we can now safely 
say has a security system that is broken by design I would do that.

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Thanks to Mike Nimer & Macromedia - (re: Flash forms)

2005-02-16 Thread Irvin Gomez
Sorry for the OT, but, given that I started the Flash forms thread here, this 
follow-up would be (kind of) appropriate, too.

With Mike's extensive (about 2 hours on phone/breeze) help we tested all 
possible reasons for the initial delay in loading (had been about 5 seconds). A 
few adjustments to the CF Administrator and a freshly re-started computer made 
the issue vanish.

While doing that, a far more  interesting and harder-to-detect problem was 
solved: the  tag crashed CF MX7. To make the story short, it was one 
(or several) of the fonts installed in the system (the suspects are some fonts 
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went away.

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Re: Alternatives to Windows SMTP service

2005-02-16 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Eric Creese wrote:
> I would like too but I am not sure how to configure it. I had it working 
> before but my event log was getting filled up and my server comes to a 
> grinding halt so I turned it off. Soon as I turn it on I get the following 
> messages.

> Message delivery to the remote domain 'citymail.com.tw' failed for the 
> following reason: The connection was dropped by the remote host.
> Message delivery to the remote domain 'surecom.com.tw' failed for the 
> following reason: Unable to bind to the destination server in DNS. 
> Message delivery to the remote domain 'seed.net.tw' failed for the following 
> reason: The remote server did not respond to a connection attempt
> Message delivery to the remote domain 'ms12.hinet.net' failed.  The error 
> message is 'An SMTP protocol error occurred.
> '. The SMTP verb which caused the error is 'RCPT'.  The response from the 
> remote server is '550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Relaying denied
> '. 

These are probably attempts by spammers to use your server as a 
relay. Configure your firewall to block incomming connections on 
port 25 from remote IP addresses and you will be fine.

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Re: CF Hosting

2005-02-16 Thread russ
We offer:

Tier 4 Package
1000 MB Space / 15 GB of Transfer
5 MySQL databases / ColdFusion MX
Control panel management
$12.00/month

and

Tier 3 Package
400 MB Space / 8 GB of Transfer
3 MySQL databases / ColdFusion MX
Control panel management
$8.00/month

With CFMX (and will upgrade soon).  Part of the cost differential may be
the working on a Win environment vs. the *nix environment, though.

And for what it's worth, I don't really call that nothing, either.  We
think it's pretty fair and we researched various offerings before coming
up with those packages.

> well i get 500mb, 10gb transfer, mysql, 100emails, blah blah blah & it
> works out to be $11 a month, i wouldnt call that nothing.
>
> 
> I did look at CFMX Hosting - but for what you pay you get nothing -
> 50mb webspace and MS Access DB.
>
> The reason i personally went for CT was that with the "Intermediate"
> plan you get 400mb and MySQL db etc - and with the conversion of $ to
> £'s it works out cheaper (about £90 annually)
>
> The reason for looking at Vuix was for a friend who wanted cheap
> hosting with xchange rate it works out at only £30 - the equilivant to
> some cheap ASP hosting providers overhere. Personally as long as it
> has MySQL & CFMX 6.1 all is good. I know you get more if you pay more
> - but some people don't need/care for it all - and it doesnt matter
> how we say it.



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re: CFMX7 Code snippets examples page - JavaScript error in MSIE 6

2005-02-16 Thread dave
hehe imagine that...

 i installed mine to a seperate hard drive and i get all kinds of errors though 
(probably path related)


From: "Earl, George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:53 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: CFMX7 Code snippets examples page - JavaScript error in MSIE 6 

Does anyone else get this JavaScript error:

Line: 414
Char: 27
Error:Expected ';'
Code: 0
URL:
http://www.macromedia.com/examples/cfgettingstarted/experience/index.cfm?loc
ale=en

when using MSIE 6 to access:

http://www.macromedia.com/examples/cfgettingstarted/experience/snippets.cfm

It appears to work fine with Firefox . . .

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Re: Outlook & Coldfusion

2005-02-16 Thread Charlie Griefer
don't know for sure...but might want to give a look at
http://cfregex.com/cfcomet/outlook/


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:11:39 -0500, Ryan Mannion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone know if this can be done:
> 
> In outlook you can create appointments and send them to others for
> approval, like accept, decline etc. Is there anyway for a cfmail to
> send this type of appointment email? I don't think it can be that
> difficult, maybe just sending different types of headers?
> 
> If anyone has see this done or has any advice please let me know.
> 
> thanks
> 
> Ryan Mannion
> 
> 

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Re: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

2005-02-16 Thread dave
has nothing to do with a "date" means that things move forward, don't get stuck 
with your feet standing still!


From: Greg Morphis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:34 AM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: Any sites using the new Flash foms? 

" if you cant see the benefit of flash forms then maybe you need to look at
the calendarits 2005 btw"

Why would you use something just because of the year?
Many factors are weighed before a product is using them, I think date
should be the very least of concern heh..

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:22:31 -0500, Bryan F. Hogan
 wrote:
> I don't think anyone doesn't see the benefits. It's just that there are some
> usability issues keeping a lot of from using them. If the loading issue,
> memory issues (lot of info in dropdown), and loading icon changes to be
> static, I'll use them right away. I like them, but their too slow. When they
> load quick, I'll use them.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:29 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms?
> 
> thats so lame micha!
> the funny thing is ppl that that talk like that make the UGLIEST web
> apps!!! sure they may work good but pleazz
> 
> if you cant see the benefit of flash forms then maybe you need to look at
> the calendarits 2005 btw
> 
> 



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Re: Regex Question

2005-02-16 Thread Tony Hicks
Actually, it wouldn't..

The way an average is to be calculated here is to add up the balance
for each day of the month and divide by number of days in the month.

It was easy to deposit the balance on days that had deposits, it got
harder on days that didn't have deposits.. I did end up using a
cfloop.. I had a few regexes in mind, but they didn't work well.


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:51:54 -0600, Greg Morphis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tony, if someone entered a 0, wouldnt you want to account for that?
> Or if you didnt.. why not delete the 0's and then get an average (if
> they're just place holders)?
> If a 0 is just a place holder, you wouldnt want to replace it with a
> previous value. That would mess up your average.
> 
> 
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:32:28 -0500, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > S.Isaac pointed out that I'd misread the original post.  I thought he
> > wanted to remove them, not replace them.  That makes this just a wee bit
> > harder.  :-)
> >
> > Since what he's wanting to do is apparently average them, I'd write the
> > summation loop manually and track the last non-zero value to use in case
> > of zeros.  I'm not sure what he'd want to do with a leading zero, but
> > that's a whole new bag'o'worms.
> >
> > --Ben
> >
> > Michael Dinowitz wrote:
> > > Ben,
> > > I've tried this a few ways and I can't find any way to do a single run 
> > > RegEx
> > > which will do the job. Handling a single 0 is child's play. Handling
> > > multiple properly is not happening.
> > > If this was put in a loop, I can see it but.
> > > What do you suggest as a solution that will handle multiple 0 replaces
> > > without a loop?
> > >
> > >
> > >>Well, you could use listdeleteat() to remove them.  That would probably
> > >>be more human readable later.  It would also handle boundary cases (ie
> > >>the first and last items) easily and cleanly.
> > >>
> > >>If, for some reason, you really want to use a regex, it certainly can be
> > >>done.  :-)
> > >>
> > >>--Ben
> > >>
> > >>Tony Hicks wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Does anyone know if there's a way to replace an unkown number of
> > >>>consequitive 0s in a list with the previous number..
> > >>>
> > >>>For instance...
> > >>>
> > >>>147,0,119,137,0,0,0,154 would become..
> > >>>
> > >>>147,147,119,137,137,137,137,154
> > >>>
> > >>>Thanks
> > >>>Tony
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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CFMX7 Code snippets examples page - JavaScript error in MSIE 6

2005-02-16 Thread Earl, George
Does anyone else get this JavaScript error:

Line:   414
Char: 27
Error:Expected ';'
Code: 0
URL:
http://www.macromedia.com/examples/cfgettingstarted/experience/index.cfm?loc
ale=en


when using MSIE 6 to access:

http://www.macromedia.com/examples/cfgettingstarted/experience/snippets.cfm


It appears to work fine with Firefox . . .

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

2005-02-16 Thread dave
its not broken its mangled! ;)


From: Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:44 AM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!) 

Matthew Small wrote:
> OK, you're right... no plans to upgrade something from which they make no
> money and have no competition. I suspect most companies would do the same.
> The promise of a new browser for a new OS is a feature of that new OS, just
> as most any new feature is part of an upgrade. Would you ask Macromedia to
> backwards incorporate Flash Forms or CFCs in CF4.5?

If that was the only way to stop the onslaught of patches for 
never ending security holes in a product that we can now safely 
say has a security system that is broken by design I would do that.

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RE: Alternatives to Windows SMTP service

2005-02-16 Thread Eric Creese
I would like too but I am not sure how to configure it. I had it working before 
but my event log was getting filled up and my server comes to a grinding halt 
so I turned it off. Soon as I turn it on I get the following messages. If you 
like I can tell you what the properties for SMTP are set to.

Message delivery to the remote domain 'citymail.com.tw' failed for the 
following reason: The connection was dropped by the remote host.

or

Message delivery to the remote domain 'surecom.com.tw' failed for the following 
reason: Unable to bind to the destination server in DNS. 

or

Message delivery to the remote domain 'seed.net.tw' failed for the following 
reason: The remote server did not respond to a connection attempt

or

Message delivery to the remote domain 'ms12.hinet.net' failed.  The error 
message is 'An SMTP protocol error occurred.
'. The SMTP verb which caused the error is 'RCPT'.  The response from the 
remote server is '550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Relaying denied
'. 

-Original Message-
From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 12:55 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Windows SMTP service


If your needs are that simple (for instance, you don't do a lot of mass 
mailings) then why can't you use the Windows SMTP server?

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Re: WDDX Future

2005-02-16 Thread Roger B.
> 1) Are you using WDDX?

Yep.

> 2) If so, how are you using it, which languages (and versions) are you using
> it with (CF, JS, PHP, et al.)?

I use it to serialize CFML data structures and dump them to the
filesystem for caching and/or storage.

> 3) Are you limited by the current version of the WDDX SDK?

Nope.

> 5) Should the WDDX community effort be revived and would you be willing to
> actively help in this community effort to expand WDDX's capabilities?

I suppose that would depend upon what kind of expansion was on the table.

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Re: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

2005-02-16 Thread dave
also, lets not forget the other part of the new formsxml


From: Matt Woodward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:01 AM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: Any sites using the new Flash foms? 

>I see flash forms, and that is just a personal view of it; as a tool
>providing developers who are unexperienced with domscripting, with quick
>results but against the price of consistency, and usability.

You truly are missing the point of Flash forms, and I still think you're 
insulting a whole lot of people by implying that Flash forms are only useful to 
people who can't figure out Javascript. Give me a break! I'm interested in 
Flash forms because of the tremendous possibilities they offer, not because I 
don't know Javascript. Dismissing Flash forms as an easy way out of learning 
Javascript (or using pre-built libraries) is just downright silly. I also don't 
see why you pay the price of consistency and *especially* usability with Flash 
forms, but that's an argument for another day I suppose.

Have you polled any of your users about Flash forms? The people at my company 
whom I've shown Flash forms to have all been universally floored by them from a 
usability standpoint, and these are non-technical people, which remember is 
going to be the vast majority of your user base in most cases. If it makes the 
life of the non-technical person easier and simplifies form entry processes, 
particularly complex of lengthy ones, then it's a good thing to have in the 
toolbox when you need it.

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RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

2005-02-16 Thread Ben Rogers
> I think Firefox is a threat. The product is gaining market and
> mindshare over IE pretty consistently, and if they want to stop it
> they have to act now not before it gets to 30 or 50%. MSs plan (I
> think I read this somewhere but cant remember)

Slashdot, perhaps?

> is to get everyone off
> the browser and write apps with their avalon thing anyway

I've seen no evidence of this -- outside of the conspiracy theorist blogs.
As far as I can tell, they are trying to do the reverse: make traditional
desktop applications deployable and updatable via the Web.

> (kind of
> like Flex for the desktop, but probably more complicated with
> engineered in vulnerabilities). I'd even say MM is a threat to MS at
> this point (unless they are playing footsie under the table)
> 
> The more people that get hooked with complex apps in the browser the
> more they'll have to convert later.  But MS says the only reason I've
> heard they are upgrading is because "their customers asked for it"
> (like they listen to them ;-D)

Have you ever personally spoken with a Microsoft employee or even read a few
of their blogs? As a Microsoft customer, we were asked to demonstrate an
application that we had written. We met with project leaders from several
teams. In many ways, the app we had written competed with what they were
doing. So, with some of the teams, we discussed differing approaches to
solving the same problem. With other teams, we discussed how they could
market the product we'd written to their customers. It was an educational
experience, much more useful than making the same old "us vs. them"
argument.

> I'd bet IE7 is not going to be anything grand - it's going to be catch
> up like it almost always is.

How so? Firefox only reached version 1 a few months ago. Safari has only
been out for a year or so, I believe. Between the release of Internet
Explorer 4 and Safari, I can think of only two browsers that competed on a
technical level: Opera and Mozilla. Opera failed to render many sites
correctly (often because of bad browser detection, but that's the way it
is). Although the Gecko engine is pretty nice, the Mozilla suite left a lot
to be desired. Anyway, my point is, it seems like there were a few years
there that Internet Explorer was the uncontested leader. And has it really
slipped that far?

> They'll just add the basic features that
> are in firefox so that the IE crowd who now say they don't need tabbed
> browsing can say they love IE for its tabbed browsing

Ah, so now we're insulting Internet Explorer users as well as Microsoft. I
guess I can respond since I'm one of those people who doesn't "need" tabbed
browsing. I use Firefox religiously at home. I'd say that tabbed browsing
hasn't revolutionized my surfing experience. I rarely miss it at work where
I generally use Internet Explorer.

That said, I think the implementation of tabbed browsing in Firefox and
Mozilla is very poor. There are some popular extensions that greatly enhance
the experience. So, I'm not willing to judge based solely on my experiences
with Firefox. Nevertheless, if Microsoft makes a better *default* tabbed
browsing experience, well, good for them.

It seems to me that browser innovation may really be dead when Web designers
start trumpeting features like tabbed browsing.

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Re: Javascript question

2005-02-16 Thread Micha Schopman
I did some refactoring for you :) while loops in javascript are quicker than 
for loops.

function Validator() {
var myform = document.getElementById('SuggestionForm');
var errMsg = ''
var checkboxcounter = 0;

if (myform.SuggestionText.value.length <= 0){
  errMsg += '- Please explain your suggestion.\n\r'
}

if (myform.SuggestTitle.value.value.length <= 0){
  errMsg += '- Your suggestion needs a title.\n\r'
}

var i=myform.Impact.length;while(i--){
  if(myform.Impact[i].checked){
checkboxcounter++;
  }
}

if (errMsg.length > 0) {
  alert(errMsg)
}else{
 myform.submit()
}

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RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

2005-02-16 Thread dave
dang, it's only the first version, least MM is putting new features in.


From: "Bryan F. Hogan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:26 AM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms? 

I don't think anyone doesn't see the benefits. It's just that there are some
usability issues keeping a lot of from using them. If the loading issue,
memory issues (lot of info in dropdown), and loading icon changes to be
static, I'll use them right away. I like them, but their too slow. When they
load quick, I'll use them.

-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

thats so lame micha!
 the funny thing is ppl that that talk like that make the UGLIEST web
apps!!! sure they may work good but pleazz

 if you cant see the benefit of flash forms then maybe you need to look at
the calendarits 2005 btw



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Re: CF Hosting

2005-02-16 Thread dave
well i get 500mb, 10gb transfer, mysql, 100emails, blah blah blah & it works 
out to be $11 a month, i wouldnt call that nothing.


From: Andy Jarrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 6:13 AM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: CF Hosting 

I did look at CFMX Hosting - but for what you pay you get nothing -
50mb webspace and MS Access DB.

The reason i personally went for CT was that with the "Intermediate"
plan you get 400mb and MySQL db etc - and with the conversion of $ to
£'s it works out cheaper (about £90 annually)

The reason for looking at Vuix was for a friend who wanted cheap
hosting with xchange rate it works out at only £30 - the equilivant to
some cheap ASP hosting providers overhere. Personally as long as it
has MySQL & CFMX 6.1 all is good. I know you get more if you pay more
- but some people don't need/care for it all - and it doesnt matter
how we say it.

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:27:24 -, Mark Smyth
 wrote:
> I'd recommend
> 
> http://www.cfmxhosting.co.uk/
> 
> Reasonably priced with excellent support etc and a top notch control panel!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 16 February 2005 10:12
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: re: CF Hosting
> 
> not too mention the user control panels are top notch plus now smartermail &
> smarterstats, its a good package :)
> 
> 
> From: Andy Jarrett 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 5:00 AM
> To: CF-Talk 
> Subject: CF Hosting
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> I've just came across Viux (www.vuix.com) for CF hosting and was wondering
> if anyone is using them or has used them?
> 
> Im already with CrystalTech, but was thinking of getting another domain w/
> hosting for a friend and for CF they seemed too cheap. Their Starter Plan
> (http://hosting.viux.com/webhosting/plan-starter.asp)
> starts at $55.84 yearly with
> 
> Microsoft Windows Server 2003
> Web Hosting Control Panel
> Internet Information Services (IIS 6 | .htm) ColdFusion MX v6.1 (CFML |
> ..cfm) ...NET Framework v1.1 (ASP.Net | .aspx) Active Server Pages (ASP |
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Outlook & Coldfusion

2005-02-16 Thread Ryan Mannion
Does anyone know if this can be done:

In outlook you can create appointments and send them to others for
approval, like accept, decline etc. Is there anyway for a cfmail to
send this type of appointment email? I don't think it can be that
difficult, maybe just sending different types of headers?

If anyone has see this done or has any advice please let me know.

thanks

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Two/Three Dimensional CFOUPUT in MX

2005-02-16 Thread Daniel Kang
A table (Referral_Action in SQL Server 2000) has Action_Item as below
along with the date of action.

Carried Over (let say CO)
Client/Family Cancelled (CC)
Home Assessment (HA)
Other (OT)
Referred Other Agency/Service (RO)
Volunteer Assigned (VA)

The query will be


Select Action_Item, datepart (mm, Action_Date), count (Action_Item)
>From Referral_Action
Group by Action_Item, datepart (mm, Action_Date)
Order by Action_Item, datepart (mm, Action_Date)


The cfoutput has to show in a char format.

The month (from Jan to Dec) should show up from left to right on the top
Action_Item should show up from to bottom on the left 
At the bottom, the total count of each month should show up.

The display should look like below.

--   Jan  Feb  etc
CO   2   3
CC   2   2
HA   3   0
OT   5   1
RO   6   6
VA   1   2
Total   1914

Please advise how to accomplish this.

TIA,

Daniel

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RE: Javascript question

2005-02-16 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message-
> From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:28 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Javascript question
> 
> change: for (i = 0; i <= myform.Impact.length; i++)
> to: for (i = 0; i < myform.Impact.length; i++)

Yup - Charlie's 'xactly right.  Remember that JavaScript counts from zero,
but "length" is still the full count.  So you while length would be (for
example) "3" the actual count would be "0,1,2"

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OT- Help installing VPN

2005-02-16 Thread Andy Ousterhout
OK, I took the lists' advice and went out and bought a SonicWall T170 and now 
am trying to install VPN so that we can run a legacy AP and access the Exchange 
server from home and when I am traveling.  I am trying to use RADIUS and IAS to 
access MS Server 2003 for Username/PW validation.  When I test this, the 
SonicWall says:  "Radius Client Authentication Failed". SonicWall Log says:
 
 
02/16/2005 13:25:27.704  UDP packet dropped  68.74.188.43, 500, WAN  
69.11.220.86, 500, WAN 
02/16/2005 13:25:19.432  Web management request allowed  192.168.1.51, 1944, 
LAN 192.168.1.1, 443, LAN   HTTPS   
 
 
 
 
 
 
MS 2003 Security Log recorded this event:
 
Event Type: Failure Audit
Event Source: Security
Event Category: Logon/Logoff 
Event ID: 529
Date: 2/15/2005
Time: 8:29:09 PM
User: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
Computer: OMGSERVER
Description:
Logon Failure:
Reason: Unknown user name or bad password
User Name: cindy
Domain: OMYGOODNESS
Logon Type: 3
Logon Process: IAS
Authentication Package: MICROSOFT_AUTHENTICATION_PACKAGE_V1_0
Workstation Name: 
Caller User Name: OMGSERVER$
Caller Domain: OMYGOODNESS
Caller Logon ID: (0x0,0x3E7)
Caller Process ID: 996
Transited Services: -
Source Network Address: -
Source Port: -

 I've configured Server 2003 according to MS Article ID 323441 except that I 
gave a specific user Dial-in access via Server Management/Users since I 
couldn't figure out any changes I needed to make to their preset "Mobile User" 
group.

What am I missing besides my brain?

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WDDX Future

2005-02-16 Thread Rey Bango
Just wanted to take a survey on WDDX. With XML and Web Services being the de 
facto standard method for inter-application communication, I'd like to 
understand whether WDDX has a future or not.

1) Are you using WDDX?

2) If so, how are you using it, which languages (and versions) are you using 
it with (CF, JS, PHP, et al.)?

3) Are you limited by the current version of the WDDX SDK?

4) If so, what features would you like to see included?

5) Should the WDDX community effort be revived and would you be willing to 
actively help in this community effort to expand WDDX's capabilities?

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Re: Javascript question

2005-02-16 Thread Charlie Griefer
change: for (i = 0; i <= myform.Impact.length; i++)
to: for (i = 0; i < myform.Impact.length; i++)


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:13:32 -0800, John Wilker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I didn't know of a good JS list
> 
> I have the code below. The if loop seems to kill the script. The IF
> loop runs fine but the alert after the FOR and everything after the
> FOR for that matter, fail to execute.
> 
> function Validator() {
> var myform = document.getElementById('SuggestionForm');
> var errMsg = ''
> var checkboxcounter = 0
> if (myform.SuggestionText.value == '')
> errMsg = errMsg + '- Please explain your 
> suggestion.\n\r'
> if (myform.SuggestTitle.value == '')
> errMsg = errMsg + '- Your suggestion needs a 
> title.\n\r'
> alert(myform.Impact.length);
> for (i = 0; i <= myform.Impact.length; i++)
> {
> if (myform.Impact[i].checked) {
> alert('true');
> checkboxcounter++;
> }else{
> alert('false');
> }
> }
> alert('hi');
> alert(checkboxcounter);
> if (errMsg != '')
> alert(errMsg)
> else
> myform.submit()
> }
> 
> Any thoughts.
> 
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RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

2005-02-16 Thread Micha Schopman
www.mschopman.demon.nl/treeview_v1.6/ 
http://www.mschopman.demon.nl/treeview_v1.6.rar 

www.mschopman.demon.nl/menu/  (images missing, too lazy with uploading,
offset is quick n dirty) 

 

Both need documentation, but that is currently in progress. When their done
I'll create the site for them, for the masses. Their both OO JS, so
extensions are quickly written, and this counts for bugfixes as well.

The treeview is displayed with some example methods and is based towards web
application usage. It doesn't trigger the IE image bugs. The treeviews from
webfx do, and Erik Arvidsson has a version 2 ready, but not yet released.
>From what he told me he fixed these issues also in his version. 

Menu contains an implemented observer/listener so you can handle commands to
specific parts in your web interface. Once you make a change in state, the
observer sees this, and notifies all listening commands to update their
state (disabled, enabled, show, hide, etc.) 

The seperator automatically groups command buttons. The menu can be used as
a contextmenu, and a normal menu, or a floating menu. You feed her with XML
or static Javascript. She doesn't need water. The same for the treeview, you
are allowed to use xml and static commands. Multiple menu's and treeviews
are allowed on a page. 

For questions or help, just MSN me, if I'm there I'll respond. 
msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Micha Schopman 
Software Engineer 

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort 
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Sent: woensdag 16 februari 2005 16:51 
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Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms? 

Micha, 
Where are they available? 

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RE: why do e mails go into the Undelivr folder? is there any impr ovement in MX 7?

2005-02-16 Thread Dave Watts
> for future reference please don't not refer to _any_ cf developer
> methods as half-assed. It's not the type of community involvement we
> expect from MM.

In Tom's defense, I read his statement as meaning that, rather than CF
itself providing a half-assed implementation of SMTP, it simply acts as an
SMTP client. Not that Tom needs me to defend him, of course.

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Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

2005-02-16 Thread Bryan Stevenson
touche! ;-)

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- Original Message - 
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To: "CF-Talk" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:39 AM
Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)


>> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Absolutely 100% agree...but people are lazy so I'm not
>> holding my breath ;-)
>
> Good, that means I can keep using their identities... err... I mean the 
> risk
> of them running into problems is their own fault :-)
>
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>
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Javascript question

2005-02-16 Thread John Wilker
I didn't know of a good JS list

I have the code below. The if loop seems to kill the script. The IF
loop runs fine but the alert after the FOR and everything after the
FOR for that matter, fail to execute.

function Validator() {
var myform = document.getElementById('SuggestionForm');
var errMsg = ''
var checkboxcounter = 0
if (myform.SuggestionText.value == '')
errMsg = errMsg + '- Please explain your 
suggestion.\n\r'
if (myform.SuggestTitle.value == '')
errMsg = errMsg + '- Your suggestion needs a title.\n\r'
alert(myform.Impact.length);
for (i = 0; i <= myform.Impact.length; i++) 
{
if (myform.Impact[i].checked) {
alert('true');
checkboxcounter++;
}else{
alert('false');
}
}
alert('hi');
alert(checkboxcounter);
if (errMsg != '') 
alert(errMsg)
else
myform.submit()
}

Any thoughts.

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Re: SOT: AspImage - Watermarking

2005-02-16 Thread Rick Root
>  >>to get a watermark'ed image without the bgcolor of the watermark 
> fading onto the existing image)

the image.cfc included with CFFM and BlogCFM, written by Jim Dew, who is 
on this list, contains watermarketing functionality, that I actually 
used in my CAPTCHA script.

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Re: CFMX J2EE multiple instances and max heap size

2005-02-16 Thread Sean Corfield
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:53:14 -0500, Douglas Knudsen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'll add that you can use multiple jvm.config fles though, one for
> each jrun server.

And you can also run multiple CF installs on a single JRun server
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Re: Regex Question

2005-02-16 Thread Tony Hicks
Actually, it wouldn't..

The way an average is to be calculated here is to add up the balance
for each day of the month and divide by number of days in the month.

It was easy to deposit the balance on days that had deposits, it got
harder on days that didn't have deposits.. I did end up using a
cfloop.. I had a few regexes in mind, but they didn't work well.


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:51:54 -0600, Greg Morphis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tony, if someone entered a 0, wouldnt you want to account for that?
> Or if you didnt.. why not delete the 0's and then get an average (if
> they're just place holders)?
> If a 0 is just a place holder, you wouldnt want to replace it with a
> previous value. That would mess up your average.
> 
> 
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:32:28 -0500, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > S.Isaac pointed out that I'd misread the original post.  I thought he
> > wanted to remove them, not replace them.  That makes this just a wee bit
> > harder.  :-)
> >
> > Since what he's wanting to do is apparently average them, I'd write the
> > summation loop manually and track the last non-zero value to use in case
> > of zeros.  I'm not sure what he'd want to do with a leading zero, but
> > that's a whole new bag'o'worms.
> >
> > --Ben
> >
> > Michael Dinowitz wrote:
> > > Ben,
> > > I've tried this a few ways and I can't find any way to do a single run 
> > > RegEx
> > > which will do the job. Handling a single 0 is child's play. Handling
> > > multiple properly is not happening.
> > > If this was put in a loop, I can see it but.
> > > What do you suggest as a solution that will handle multiple 0 replaces
> > > without a loop?
> > >
> > >
> > >>Well, you could use listdeleteat() to remove them.  That would probably
> > >>be more human readable later.  It would also handle boundary cases (ie
> > >>the first and last items) easily and cleanly.
> > >>
> > >>If, for some reason, you really want to use a regex, it certainly can be
> > >>done.  :-)
> > >>
> > >>--Ben
> > >>
> > >>Tony Hicks wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Does anyone know if there's a way to replace an unkown number of
> > >>>consequitive 0s in a list with the previous number..
> > >>>
> > >>>For instance...
> > >>>
> > >>>147,0,119,137,0,0,0,154 would become..
> > >>>
> > >>>147,147,119,137,137,137,137,154
> > >>>
> > >>>Thanks
> > >>>Tony
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
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Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)

2005-02-16 Thread Claude Schneegans
 >>Firefox is good for those that prefer it, and also good for those 
that prefer IE.

 if only they could document it!

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Re: SOT: AspImage - Watermarking

2005-02-16 Thread Claude Schneegans
 >>to get a watermark'ed image without the bgcolor of the watermark 
fading onto the existing image)

See CFX_stampImage at the link below

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Re: Alternatives to Windows SMTP service

2005-02-16 Thread Jim McAtee
If your needs are that simple (for instance, you don't do a lot of mass 
mailings) then why can't you use the Windows SMTP server?


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Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 11:41 AM
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Windows SMTP service


> Not sure if I mentioned or not but I do not offer email service
> to my clients they usually get that from their ISP. I simply build
> sites and host them for them. And in my sites I have some very
> basic features that send emails from my server from the app but
> the apps are not email applications like outlook or something like
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Re: why do e mails go into the Undelivr folder? is there any impr ovement in MX 7?

2005-02-16 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Tom, I can agree with not moving the mail automatically, but your
second statement seems more like an excuse for a lack of oversight.

A million things can get in between CF and the SMTP server even if
they are on the same box. CF should have a setting to determine how
many times to attempt delivery. Even reliable servers have load
constraints. So one second it may be too busy to accept the message,
yet a second later it can. I see this all the time with Exchange,
which I find to be a quite reliable SMTP server.

To me it seems half-assed that you couldn't put such a minor feature
into CF considering how frequently people bring this up as a problem.
I can't count how many people I have met at conferences who have built
mass email applications who all complain about the same _defficiency_

And for future reference please don't not refer to _any_ cf developer
methods as half-assed. It's not the type of community involvement we
expect from MM.

-Adam


On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 03:50:47 -0500, Tom Jordahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We explicitly do not have ColdFusion move undelivered mail in to the spool
> folder because we assume this should be a user initiated procedure.
> 
> We do not retry as a "proper" SMTP server does because CF *isn't* an SMTP
> server.  It expects that you will have a reliable SMTP server that you can
> at least spool the mail to, and since it is written explicitly to get mail
> where you want it to go and it will take care of any transient failures.
> 
> In summary: instead of doing it half-assed, we let the expert program (and
> admin) handle it.
> 
> The right way to think of CFMail is as a "User Agent" passing mail for
> delivery.  Not as a "Mail Transport Agent".
> 
> Hope that helps clarify things.
> 
> Tom Jordahl
> Macromedia Server Development
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 6:10 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: why do e mails go into the Undelivr folder? is there any
> improvement in MX 7?
> 
> Ah I see there were earlier posts.  You can't always rely on GMail's
> threading to group stuff.
> 
> Sure it would be more efficient, but a batch file in Windows can't
> make decisions based on file age without some outside help.  Don't
> know about *n*x.
> 
> A new feature would be nice, and maybe we'll get it within the next
> 2-3 years when CF8 comes out :D
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