RE: Dynamic Javascript Question

2005-05-11 Thread Micha Schopman
Be careful with the private variables outside of your function scope.
You might think you made them private, but in fact they are public
because you have defined them outside the function. You have defined
them as global variables now.

I have enclosed the parts with try catch parts, which might help you
finding out where it goes wrong.

script type=text/javascript
function clientRecPop(i) {
if(parseInt(i) = 0){
alert('i contained is not a valid number');
return;
}

try{
var clid =
document.forms['clientSearch'].elements['client_id'+i];
var compName =
document.forms['clientSearch'].elements['client_id'+i];
}catch(e){
alert('something went wrong in the first part, fields
not existing etc.');
}

if(window.opener){
try{
window.opener.document.forms['NewJob'].elements['clientID'].value =
clid;
 
window.opener.document.forms['NewJob'].elements['coName'].value =
compName;
}catch(e){
alert('something went wrong in the second part, fields
not existing in opener window etc.');
}
}



//window.close()
}

/script

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-Original Message-
From: SStewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: dinsdag 10 mei 2005 20:52
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Dynamic Javascript Question

I'm still getting the same errors

Here's the code (html generated from CF)

The size of the form is dictated by a cfoutput query.
script
var i = null;
var compName = null;
var clid = null;
function clientRecPop(i) {
clid = document.forms.clientSearch.client_id[i];
compName = document.forms.clientSearch.company[i];
self.opener.document.forms.NewJob.clientID.value = clid;
self.opener.document.forms.newJob.coName.value =
compName;



//window.close()
}

/script
/head

body id=clientSearch
table width=100% border=0 cellpadding=0
  tr bgcolor=#CC

tdspan class=style5*/span/td
tdspan class=style5Client #/span/td
tdspan class=style5Client Company Name/span/td
tdspan class=style5Contact Name/span/td
tdspan class=style5Phone#/span/td
tdnbsp;/td

  /tr
  form action= method=post name=clientSearch id=clientSearch
  
  tr
tdinput name=Status1 type=text value=A size=2
/td
tdinput name=client_id1 type=text value=158903
size=10/td
tdinput name=company1 type=text value=Wal-Mart Stores, Inc
/td
tdinput name=contact1 type=text value=Mohsen Ghadimkhani
/td
tdinput name=phone1 type=text value=5012734940 
size=10/td

tdinput name=recID1 type=button onClick=clientRecPop(1)
value=Select/td
  /tr
 
  tr
tdinput name=Status2 type=text value=A size=2
/td
tdinput name=client_id2 type=text value=158904
size=10/td
tdinput name=company2 type=text value=Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.
/td
tdinput name=contact2 type=text value=Wayne Cox
/td
tdinput name=phone2 type=text value=5012734734 
size=10/td

tdinput name=recID2 type=button onClick=clientRecPop(2)
value=Select/td
  /tr

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Server Scope

2005-05-11 Thread David Brown
A few questions:

Is it good practice or wise to create an object in the server scope?  And if
so how long does it live?  I see in the administrator Memory Variables you
can set the application and Session time to live, but not server scope.

What I want to do.
cfif (not structKeyExists(server, MyPalAuth)) or isdefined(url.Flush)
cflock name=Lock_MyPalAuth timeout=5 type=EXCLUSIVE
cfobject name=Server.MyPalAuth
component=mycoms.MyPalAuth
/cflock
/cfif
I read this from Ben's new Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Application
Development book.  But he used Application scope.  I want the object to be
created once on our intranet and then invoke it when needed in more then one
application.  I could place it in the application scope, but then that would
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link validation ?

2005-05-11 Thread dave
how can I make a link like this validate xhtml?
 a 
href=http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=addresscountry=USaddtohistory=searchtab=homeaddress=7513+Grandview+Avecity=state=cozipcode=80002;
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Re: link validation ?

2005-05-11 Thread Kay Smoljak
On 5/11/05, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 how can I make a link like this validate xhtml?
  a 
 href=http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=addresscountry=USaddtohistory=searchtab=homeaddress=7513+Grandview+Avecity=state=cozipcode=80002;
  target=_blankmap it/a

encode the ampersand - searchtype=addressamp;country=

and before you ask, yes that DOES work :)

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Re: link validation ?

2005-05-11 Thread dave
makes sense, being thats were the problems begin. I did try to urlencodeformat 
it by setting the whole link via variable but that opened up a new window and 
added the main sites url first which of course didnt work. But when I wake I 
will try just the part you say.
 Thanks Kay :)

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From: Kay Smoljak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 3:55 AM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: link validation ? 

On 5/11/05, dave  wrote:
 how can I make a link like this validate xhtml?
 map it

encode the ampersand - searchtype=addresscountry=

and before you ask, yes that DOES work :)

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Re: Server Scope

2005-05-11 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
Till the server reboots... it doesn't have a lifespan setting other than 
I'll be here till the server reboots.

You could use any number of mechanisms to refresh it...

As far as whether or not to create a CFC instance in the server scope 
there's no reason not to. You need to be aware of various conflicts that 
might occur... so I'd recommend named locks around any code that alters the 
data if there's a chance that more than one actor will try to alter the 
data. Basically, all the scopes are there to be used... my philosophy is to 
use them (except client... outside very specific circumstances.)

Laterz,
J

On 5/10/05, David Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 A few questions:
 
 Is it good practice or wise to create an object in the server scope? And 
 if
 so how long does it live? I see in the administrator Memory Variables you
 can set the application and Session time to live, but not server scope.
 
 What I want to do.
 cfif (not structKeyExists(server, MyPalAuth)) or isdefined(url.Flush
 )
 cflock name=Lock_MyPalAuth timeout=5 type=EXCLUSIVE
 cfobject name=Server.MyPalAuth
 component=mycoms.MyPalAuth
 /cflock
 /cfif
 I read this from Ben's new Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Application
 Development book. But he used Application scope. I want the object to be
 created once on our intranet and then invoke it when needed in more then 
 one
 application. I could place it in the application scope, but then that 
 would
 mean for each application I would have to recreate the object.
 



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Re: Cached query - Any way to tell when it was cached?

2005-05-11 Thread John Beynon
yeah, it's a pity cf doesn't have a built in 'cachedsince' value on
returned queres. CF7 has gotten part of the way there with the new
queryname.Cached value returning true/false but just need that last
little bit..

jb.


On 5/11/05, Scott Mulholland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yeah, for simplicities sake I'll go with the other one, heh.
 
 Thanks for the help guys.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 7:19 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Cached query - Any way to tell when it was cached?
 
  I think Ian's may be the way to go.  I am using
  cachedwithin as the data
  changes frequently so we cache it for 6 hours.  I don't
  think cachedafter
  will work.
 
 sure it will -- although the alternative is simpler...
 but fyi here's the way to accomplish 6 hr caching with cachedafter:
 
 cfparam name=application.queryname.cachedafter type=date
 default=#now()#
 
 cfif abs(datediff(h,application.queryname.cachedafter,now())) gte
 6
 cfset application.queryname.cachedafter = now()
 /cfif
 
 cfquery name=queryname
 cachedafter=#application.queryname.cachedafter#
 .../cfquery
 
 cfoutputreport last generated on
 #application.queryname.cachedafter#/cfoutput
 
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RE: link validation ?

2005-05-11 Thread Pascal Peters
It's not URLEncodedFormat but HTMLEditFormat that you need to use. This
will replace characters like  with their html codes

Pascal.

 -Original Message-
 From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 11 May 2005 10:00
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: link validation ?
 
 makes sense, being thats were the problems begin. I did try to
 urlencodeformat it by setting the whole link via variable but that
opened
 up a new window and added the main sites url first which of course
didnt
 work. But when I wake I will try just the part you say.
  Thanks Kay :)
 
 ~Dave the disruptor~
 
 
 From: Kay Smoljak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 3:55 AM
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Subject: Re: link validation ?
 
 On 5/11/05, dave  wrote:
  how can I make a link like this validate xhtml?
  map it
 
 encode the ampersand - searchtype=addresscountry=
 
 and before you ask, yes that DOES work :)
 
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RE: link validation ?

2005-05-11 Thread Adrian Lynch
Also, target=_blank won't validate as strict.

Ade

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Sent: 11 May 2005 08:51
To: CF-Talk
Subject: link validation ?


how can I make a link like this validate xhtml?
 a
href=http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=addresscountry=USadd
tohistory=searchtab=homeaddress=7513+Grandview+Avecity=state=cozipcode=
80002 target=_blankmap it/a

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Re: ColdFusion J2EE mysterious error (attn: David Maddison)

2005-05-11 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Monday 09 May 2005 11:44, Thomas Chiverton wrote:
 On Monday 09 May 2005 09:06, Thomas Chiverton wrote:
  (weblogic 7, JRocket JVM, Oracle DB).
 java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: coldfusion/filter/RequestMonitorFilter

We've come across a web page written by David Maddison, and one of the things 
he suggests for CFMX on Weblogic is to alter the CLASSPATH to explicitly 
include the cfusion/lib directory.
We didn't find that worked very well in stopping the 500 errors (above), until 
we also added cfusion.jar to the classpath directly.

We have also increased the number of cached templates to greater than the 
number of *.cf* files (2048), and turned the 'save class files' option back 
on.

Is *anyone* else seeing (or seen) these errors, or knows why David was led 
down the route of adding the files to the classpath ? The server runs fine to 
start with, which means the RequestMonitorFilter must be being found to start 
with and only later vanishes ?

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Re: link validation ?

2005-05-11 Thread Andy Jarrett
On 5/11/05, Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Also, target=_blank won't validate as strict.
 
 Ade
 

You beat me to it. But you can make it strict compliant with a bit of
Js, check out sitepoint.com

http://www.sitepoint.com/article/standards-compliant-world


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[OT] SQL Audit with CF - or maybe triggers?

2005-05-11 Thread Michel Deloux
Hi all

I'm a CF newbie and look for any sort of help for my application. How to audit 
update and delete operations in our DB? I have try to use trigger but how to 
pass parameters for triggers like userID, fields changed, etc? Do you have any 
example about how to do that?

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calling stored procedure error..

2005-05-11 Thread Protoculture
I dont understand this error...

Macromedia][SQLServer JDBC Driver][SQLServer]Invalid length parameter passed to 
the substring function.  
  
 
104 :   cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR 
105 :   value=#region# 
106 :   dbvarname=@region
107 :   
108 :   /cfstoredproc

 

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RE: calling stored procedure error..

2005-05-11 Thread Adrian Lynch
Whatever variable you're passing to SUBSTRING() is probably empty.

Ade

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Subject: calling stored procedure error..


I dont understand this error...

Macromedia][SQLServer JDBC Driver][SQLServer]Invalid length parameter passed
to the substring function.


104 :   cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR
105 :   value=#region#
106 :   dbvarname=@region
107 :
108 :   /cfstoredproc





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Writing Binary Images to Screen

2005-05-11 Thread Peter Shaw
Hi,

I have a COM object that returns a binary image file. How can I write this to 
the screen?

My best effort so far - which seems rather inelegant - is:

cffile action = write file = #expandpath(./)#image.gif output = 
#content#
img src = image.gif

my attempt to improve on this was to have something like:

img src = imageMaker.cfm

in a calling file where imageMaker.cfm calls the COM object and uses CFCONTENT 
to return an image/gif type file. However, I run in to problems with this when 
I attempt:

cfcontent type = image/gif reset = yes#content#

because, of course, we cannot write binary files to the screen.


Is there anyway to do this without having to write the binary info to a file? 
Those lucky people over at Microsoft can simply do:

Response.BinaryWrite content

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RE: Writing Binary Images to Screen

2005-05-11 Thread Adrian Lynch
Wrap #content# in cfoutputs. What happens?

Ade

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Sent: 11 May 2005 12:19
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Writing Binary Images to Screen


Hi,

I have a COM object that returns a binary image file. How can I write this
to the screen?

My best effort so far - which seems rather inelegant - is:

cffile action = write file = #expandpath(./)#image.gif output =
#content#
img src = image.gif

my attempt to improve on this was to have something like:

img src = imageMaker.cfm

in a calling file where imageMaker.cfm calls the COM object and uses
CFCONTENT to return an image/gif type file. However, I run in to problems
with this when I attempt:

cfcontent type = image/gif reset = yes#content#

because, of course, we cannot write binary files to the screen.


Is there anyway to do this without having to write the binary info to a
file? Those lucky people over at Microsoft can simply do:

Response.BinaryWrite content

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RE: calling stored procedure error..

2005-05-11 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Dbvarname is also a deprecated attribute in MX.




-Original Message-
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Sent: 11 May 2005 12:19
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: calling stored procedure error..

Whatever variable you're passing to SUBSTRING() is probably empty.

Ade

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I dont understand this error...

Macromedia][SQLServer JDBC Driver][SQLServer]Invalid length parameter passed
to the substring function.


104 :   cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR
105 :   value=#region#
106 :   dbvarname=@region
107 :
108 :   /cfstoredproc







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RE: [OT] SQL Audit with CF - or maybe triggers?

2005-05-11 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
You could use Triggers yes, but it is not advised.  Triggers can be very
detrimental to performance as table size increases.

If you are using SQL Server it is probably better to go for a Stored
Procedure solution.

N





-Original Message-
From: Michel Deloux [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 11 May 2005 12:00
To: CF-Talk
Subject: [OT] SQL Audit with CF - or maybe triggers?

Hi all

I'm a CF newbie and look for any sort of help for my application. How to
audit update and delete operations in our DB? I have try to use trigger but
how to pass parameters for triggers like userID, fields changed, etc? Do you
have any example about how to do that?

Cheers

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RE: getting the record I just inserted

2005-05-11 Thread Calvin Ward
I like this plan.

-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 6:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: getting the record I just inserted

I do something similar to what Lorne does, although I use a UUID so
that there is NO chance of collision (if you use time like that you
aren't truly safe).  There is no need to mess around with cflocks,
cftransactions etc. with this method, and it works unmodified on all
db platforms (SELECT @@IDENTITY is only good for SQL Server and maybe
Access... other platforms require different platform-specific methods
to do the job).

I like the UUID so I can write one solution and apply it to all
platforms (something not everyone needs to do, admittedly) and I
usually find a use for a UUID one way or another within a db record,
so its not really an 'extra' field in my table..


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RE: Writing Binary Images to Screen

2005-05-11 Thread James Holmes
The same will happen: ByteArray objects cannot be converted to strings.

To fix it you wrap the image in toString()

cfcontent type = image/gif reset =
yescfoutput#toString(content)#/cfoutput

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Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2005 7:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Writing Binary Images to Screen

Wrap #content# in cfoutputs. What happens?

Ade

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Writing Binary Images to Screen


Hi,

I have a COM object that returns a binary image file. How can I write this
to the screen?

My best effort so far - which seems rather inelegant - is:

cffile action = write file = #expandpath(./)#image.gif output =
#content# img src = image.gif

my attempt to improve on this was to have something like:

img src = imageMaker.cfm

in a calling file where imageMaker.cfm calls the COM object and uses
CFCONTENT to return an image/gif type file. However, I run in to problems
with this when I attempt:

cfcontent type = image/gif reset = yes#content#

because, of course, we cannot write binary files to the screen.


Is there anyway to do this without having to write the binary info to a
file? Those lucky people over at Microsoft can simply do:

Response.BinaryWrite content

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RE: getting the record I just inserted

2005-05-11 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
IDENTITY can also lead to strange results.  May be better to use
SCOPE_INDENTITY or IDENT_CURRENT.


(on SQL Server)



-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 11 May 2005 12:36
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: getting the record I just inserted

I like this plan.

-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 6:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: getting the record I just inserted

I do something similar to what Lorne does, although I use a UUID so
that there is NO chance of collision (if you use time like that you
aren't truly safe).  There is no need to mess around with cflocks,
cftransactions etc. with this method, and it works unmodified on all
db platforms (SELECT @@IDENTITY is only good for SQL Server and maybe
Access... other platforms require different platform-specific methods
to do the job).

I like the UUID so I can write one solution and apply it to all
platforms (something not everyone needs to do, admittedly) and I
usually find a use for a UUID one way or another within a db record,
so its not really an 'extra' field in my table..


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Re: [OT] SQL Audit with CF - or maybe triggers?

2005-05-11 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Michel Deloux wrote:
 
 I'm a CF newbie and look for any sort of help for my application. How to 
 audit update and delete operations in our DB?

Which DB? Some databases provide this functionality internally.


 I have try to use trigger but how to pass parameters for triggers like 
 userID, fields changed, etc?

Can't you get that information from the :new and :old pseudorows?

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Re: CFMX 7 still won;t stay running.

2005-05-11 Thread Scott Stroz
I installed a GB of memory, bring the total up to 1.5 GB. I then punished 
the server as much as I could. Basically doing all the things that would 
regularly bring CF down before...and then some. After about an hour, CF was 
still running strong.

One thing I noticed was that while I had 512MB of memory installed, 32 of it 
was shared for the video card, so I actually wasn't running a full 512MB (I 
am such an ass). 

Sean, Connie, Kevin and Adam...Thanks for all your help. Much appreciated. 
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RE: [OT] SQL Audit with CF - or maybe triggers?

2005-05-11 Thread Mark A Kruger
I would add that triggers tend to slip through the cracks when making
changes. You have to remember to analyze what any change in the db schema or
data might do to a trigger.

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:22 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: [OT] SQL Audit with CF - or maybe triggers?


You could use Triggers yes, but it is not advised.  Triggers can be very
detrimental to performance as table size increases.

If you are using SQL Server it is probably better to go for a Stored
Procedure solution.

N





-Original Message-
From: Michel Deloux [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 May 2005 12:00
To: CF-Talk
Subject: [OT] SQL Audit with CF - or maybe triggers?

Hi all

I'm a CF newbie and look for any sort of help for my application. How to
audit update and delete operations in our DB? I have try to use trigger but
how to pass parameters for triggers like userID, fields changed, etc? Do you
have any example about how to do that?

Cheers

Michel Deloux





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I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Rey Bango
Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because everytime a new 
version of CF comes out, I find myself TOTALLY plunking down $55 for his new 
revised version of CFWACK!! He is sucking my bank account dry! Dryer than 
the Sahara I tell you.

I hate you, Ben.

Rey...

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Re: getting the record I just inserted

2005-05-11 Thread Ray Champagne
Thanks for the advice all.  I learned a few things today.

Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
 IDENTITY can also lead to strange results.  May be better to use
 SCOPE_INDENTITY or IDENT_CURRENT.
 
 
 (on SQL Server)
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 11 May 2005 12:36
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: getting the record I just inserted
 
 I like this plan.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 6:34 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: getting the record I just inserted
 
 I do something similar to what Lorne does, although I use a UUID so
 that there is NO chance of collision (if you use time like that you
 aren't truly safe).  There is no need to mess around with cflocks,
 cftransactions etc. with this method, and it works unmodified on all
 db platforms (SELECT @@IDENTITY is only good for SQL Server and maybe
 Access... other platforms require different platform-specific methods
 to do the job).
 
 I like the UUID so I can write one solution and apply it to all
 platforms (something not everyone needs to do, admittedly) and I
 usually find a use for a UUID one way or another within a db record,
 so its not really an 'extra' field in my table..
 
 

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RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Q. Why on earth do you need these books now?  The CF Docs are more than
enoughif not better.



-Original Message-
From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 11 May 2005 14:00
To: CF-Talk
Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta

Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because everytime a new 
version of CF comes out, I find myself TOTALLY plunking down $55 for his new

revised version of CFWACK!! He is sucking my bank account dry! Dryer than 
the Sahara I tell you.

I hate you, Ben.

Rey...

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Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Paul Hastings
Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
 Q. Why on earth do you need these books now?  The CF Docs are more than
 enoughif not better.

well for i18n work, its certainly cheaper than hiring me  if you think 
the docs are enough for thiswell good luck then.

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Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Ray Champagne
What?  r u serious?

Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
 Q. Why on earth do you need these books now?  The CF Docs are more than
 enoughif not better.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 11 May 2005 14:00
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
 Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because everytime a new 
 version of CF comes out, I find myself TOTALLY plunking down $55 for his new
 
 revised version of CFWACK!! He is sucking my bank account dry! Dryer than 
 the Sahara I tell you.
 
 I hate you, Ben.
 
 Rey...
 
 PS: Of course, this message is all in jest and I don't actually hate Ben; 
 well, maybe a little. Great books Ben. Keep up the great work bud. 
 
 
 
 
 

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RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Yeah, I do, I think the docs have come on leaps n bounds since CF 4.5 though
the internet and the explosion of Blogs allows you to learn at a quicker and
cheaper rate than with CWACK.





-Original Message-
From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 11 May 2005 14:16
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

What?  r u serious?

Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
 Q. Why on earth do you need these books now?  The CF Docs are more than
 enoughif not better.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 11 May 2005 14:00
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
 Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because everytime a
new 
 version of CF comes out, I find myself TOTALLY plunking down $55 for his
new
 
 revised version of CFWACK!! He is sucking my bank account dry! Dryer than 
 the Sahara I tell you.
 
 I hate you, Ben.
 
 Rey...
 
 PS: Of course, this message is all in jest and I don't actually hate Ben; 
 well, maybe a little. Great books Ben. Keep up the great work bud. 
 
 
 
 
 



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RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Calvin Ward
Not always, and also there's often some neat gems of capabilities hidden
there.

For example the one for CFMX 6 had a nifty regular expression tester for
CFMX in it...

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:04 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

Q. Why on earth do you need these books now?  The CF Docs are more than
enoughif not better.



-Original Message-
From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 11 May 2005 14:00
To: CF-Talk
Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta

Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because everytime a new 
version of CF comes out, I find myself TOTALLY plunking down $55 for his new

revised version of CFWACK!! He is sucking my bank account dry! Dryer than 
the Sahara I tell you.

I hate you, Ben.

Rey...

PS: Of course, this message is all in jest and I don't actually hate Ben; 
well, maybe a little. Great books Ben. Keep up the great work bud. 






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RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Micha Schopman
I was astonished; he did not deliver a Ben Forta look-alike fake beard
along with the book. Without kidding, his books are THE standard for
learning ColdFusion. The only negative thing I have, after I opened the
book two pages directly fell out of it. No problem though, fixed it with
some construction kit I just used for fixing a vase (thank you cats).

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Sent: woensdag 11 mei 2005 14:19
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

Not always, and also there's often some neat gems of capabilities hidden
there.

For example the one for CFMX 6 had a nifty regular expression tester for
CFMX in it...

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
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Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:04 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

Q. Why on earth do you need these books now?  The CF Docs are more than
enoughif not better.



-Original Message-
From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 11 May 2005 14:00
To: CF-Talk
Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta

Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because everytime a
new 
version of CF comes out, I find myself TOTALLY plunking down $55 for his
new

revised version of CFWACK!! He is sucking my bank account dry! Dryer
than 
the Sahara I tell you.

I hate you, Ben.

Rey...

PS: Of course, this message is all in jest and I don't actually hate
Ben; 
well, maybe a little. Great books Ben. Keep up the great work bud. 








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Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Ray Champagne
Fair enough.  I still like having a nice bound reference nearby, but to 
each their own.  BTW, I know I can print and bind the docs, but another 
benefit to having Ben's book (with other authors now, let's not forget 
Ray Camden, et al) are the little pearls of wisdom that are in there. 
The docs are just so cold, IMO.

Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
 Yeah, I do, I think the docs have come on leaps n bounds since CF 4.5 though
 the internet and the explosion of Blogs allows you to learn at a quicker and
 cheaper rate than with CWACK.
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 11 May 2005 14:16
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
 What?  r u serious?
 
 Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
 
Q. Why on earth do you need these books now?  The CF Docs are more than
enoughif not better.



-Original Message-
From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 11 May 2005 14:00
To: CF-Talk
Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta

Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because everytime a
 
 new 
 
version of CF comes out, I find myself TOTALLY plunking down $55 for his
 
 new
 
revised version of CFWACK!! He is sucking my bank account dry! Dryer than 
the Sahara I tell you.

I hate you, Ben.

Rey...

PS: Of course, this message is all in jest and I don't actually hate Ben; 
well, maybe a little. Great books Ben. Keep up the great work bud. 





 
 
 
 
 

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Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Rey Bango
If you're talking about the rudimentary books that come with CFMX 7, they're 
sadly lacking. Ben has consistently produced the most comprehensive 
ColdFusion books to date which far exceed what both LiveDocs and the CFMX 
manuals provide.

Rey...

- Original Message - 
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:04 AM
Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta


 Q. Why on earth do you need these books now?  The CF Docs are more than
 enoughif not better.



 -Original Message-
 From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 11 May 2005 14:00
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta

 Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because everytime a 
 new
 version of CF comes out, I find myself TOTALLY plunking down $55 for his 
 new

 revised version of CFWACK!! He is sucking my bank account dry! Dryer than
 the Sahara I tell you.

 I hate you, Ben.

 Rey...

 PS: Of course, this message is all in jest and I don't actually hate Ben;
 well, maybe a little. Great books Ben. Keep up the great work bud.




 

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Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Ray Champagne
Yea, those books just don't stand up to the pressure.  All three of my 
copies (4.0, 5.0, MX) are in quite horrible condition. :)

Micha Schopman wrote:
 I was astonished; he did not deliver a Ben Forta look-alike fake beard
 along with the book. Without kidding, his books are THE standard for
 learning ColdFusion. The only negative thing I have, after I opened the
 book two pages directly fell out of it. No problem though, fixed it with
 some construction kit I just used for fixing a vase (thank you cats).
 
 Micha Schopman
 Project Manager
 
 Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
 Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380
 
 
 
 -
 Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren
 de interactie met uw doelgroep. 
 Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer
 informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl 
 
 
 -
 -Original Message-
 From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: woensdag 11 mei 2005 14:19
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
 Not always, and also there's often some neat gems of capabilities hidden
 there.
 
 For example the one for CFMX 6 had a nifty regular expression tester for
 CFMX in it...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:04 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
 Q. Why on earth do you need these books now?  The CF Docs are more than
 enoughif not better.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 11 May 2005 14:00
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
 Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because everytime a
 new 
 version of CF comes out, I find myself TOTALLY plunking down $55 for his
 new
 
 revised version of CFWACK!! He is sucking my bank account dry! Dryer
 than 
 the Sahara I tell you.
 
 I hate you, Ben.
 
 Rey...
 
 PS: Of course, this message is all in jest and I don't actually hate
 Ben; 
 well, maybe a little. Great books Ben. Keep up the great work bud. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
I am just sad the O'Reilly dropped their coverage of CF as I prefer there
layout and useage.



-Original Message-
From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 11 May 2005 14:24
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

Fair enough.  I still like having a nice bound reference nearby, but to 
each their own.  BTW, I know I can print and bind the docs, but another 
benefit to having Ben's book (with other authors now, let's not forget 
Ray Camden, et al) are the little pearls of wisdom that are in there. 
The docs are just so cold, IMO.

Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
 Yeah, I do, I think the docs have come on leaps n bounds since CF 4.5
though
 the internet and the explosion of Blogs allows you to learn at a quicker
and
 cheaper rate than with CWACK.
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 11 May 2005 14:16
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
 What?  r u serious?
 
 Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
 
Q. Why on earth do you need these books now?  The CF Docs are more than
enoughif not better.



-Original Message-
From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 11 May 2005 14:00
To: CF-Talk
Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta

Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because everytime a
 
 new 
 
version of CF comes out, I find myself TOTALLY plunking down $55 for his
 
 new
 
revised version of CFWACK!! He is sucking my bank account dry! Dryer than 
the Sahara I tell you.

I hate you, Ben.

Rey...

PS: Of course, this message is all in jest and I don't actually hate Ben; 
well, maybe a little. Great books Ben. Keep up the great work bud. 





 
 
 
 
 



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RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Mark Smyth
I'm with Neil on this.

I have bought the CFWACK since 4.5, but I will not be buying version 7 

If I need to find out something its, 
1. CF Docs
2. Google
3. CF lists


-Original Message-
From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 11 May 2005 14:24
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

Fair enough.  I still like having a nice bound reference nearby, but to each
their own.  BTW, I know I can print and bind the docs, but another benefit
to having Ben's book (with other authors now, let's not forget Ray Camden,
et al) are the little pearls of wisdom that are in there. 
The docs are just so cold, IMO.

Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
 Yeah, I do, I think the docs have come on leaps n bounds since CF 4.5 
 though the internet and the explosion of Blogs allows you to learn at 
 a quicker and cheaper rate than with CWACK.
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 11 May 2005 14:16
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
 What?  r u serious?
 
 Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
 
Q. Why on earth do you need these books now?  The CF Docs are more 
than enoughif not better.



-Original Message-
From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 May 2005 14:00
To: CF-Talk
Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta

Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because everytime 
a
 
 new
 
version of CF comes out, I find myself TOTALLY plunking down $55 for 
his
 
 new
 
revised version of CFWACK!! He is sucking my bank account dry! Dryer 
than the Sahara I tell you.

I hate you, Ben.

Rey...

PS: Of course, this message is all in jest and I don't actually hate 
Ben; well, maybe a little. Great books Ben. Keep up the great work bud.





 
 
 
 
 



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Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Rey Bango
I agree Neil. I actually thought about that last night because I pulled out 
my trusty Programming ColdFusion MX to get some code.

Its a shame.

Rey...

- Original Message - 
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:20 AM
Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta


I am just sad the O'Reilly dropped their coverage of CF as I prefer there
 layout and useage.



 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 11 May 2005 14:24
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

 Fair enough.  I still like having a nice bound reference nearby, but to
 each their own.  BTW, I know I can print and bind the docs, but another
 benefit to having Ben's book (with other authors now, let's not forget
 Ray Camden, et al) are the little pearls of wisdom that are in there.
 The docs are just so cold, IMO.

 Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
 Yeah, I do, I think the docs have come on leaps n bounds since CF 4.5
 though
 the internet and the explosion of Blogs allows you to learn at a quicker
 and
 cheaper rate than with CWACK.





 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 11 May 2005 14:16
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

 What?  r u serious?

 Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:

Q. Why on earth do you need these books now?  The CF Docs are more than
enoughif not better.



-Original Message-
From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 May 2005 14:00
To: CF-Talk
Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta

Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because everytime a

 new

version of CF comes out, I find myself TOTALLY plunking down $55 for his

 new

revised version of CFWACK!! He is sucking my bank account dry! Dryer than
the Sahara I tell you.

I hate you, Ben.

Rey...

PS: Of course, this message is all in jest and I don't actually hate Ben;
well, maybe a little. Great books Ben. Keep up the great work bud.













 

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Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Clint Tredway
the main reason I buy books is for when I am not online and need a reference... 

On 5/11/05, Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yea, those books just don't stand up to the pressure.  All three of my
 copies (4.0, 5.0, MX) are in quite horrible condition. :)
 
 Micha Schopman wrote:
  I was astonished; he did not deliver a Ben Forta look-alike fake beard
  along with the book. Without kidding, his books are THE standard for
  learning ColdFusion. The only negative thing I have, after I opened the
  book two pages directly fell out of it. No problem though, fixed it with
  some construction kit I just used for fixing a vase (thank you cats).
 
  Micha Schopman
  Project Manager
 
  Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
  Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
  KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380
 
  
  
  -
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  de interactie met uw doelgroep.
  Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer
  informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl
  
  
  -
  -Original Message-
  From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: woensdag 11 mei 2005 14:19
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
  Not always, and also there's often some neat gems of capabilities hidden
  there.
 
  For example the one for CFMX 6 had a nifty regular expression tester for
  CFMX in it...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:04 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
  Q. Why on earth do you need these books now?  The CF Docs are more than
  enoughif not better.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 11 May 2005 14:00
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
  Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because everytime a
  new
  version of CF comes out, I find myself TOTALLY plunking down $55 for his
  new
 
  revised version of CFWACK!! He is sucking my bank account dry! Dryer
  than
  the Sahara I tell you.
 
  I hate you, Ben.
 
  Rey...
 
  PS: Of course, this message is all in jest and I don't actually hate
  Ben;
  well, maybe a little. Great books Ben. Keep up the great work bud.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Kerry
Wouldnt the Advanced CF 7 book be of more benefit than the CFWACK book?

-Original Message-
From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 May 2005 14:00
To: CF-Talk
Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta


Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because everytime a new
version of CF comes out, I find myself TOTALLY plunking down $55 for his new
revised version of CFWACK!! He is sucking my bank account dry! Dryer than
the Sahara I tell you.

I hate you, Ben.

Rey...

PS: Of course, this message is all in jest and I don't actually hate Ben;
well, maybe a little. Great books Ben. Keep up the great work bud.




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RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread kola.oyedeji
Well I still have my 4.0 CFWACK if anyone wants it ;-)

But seriously the rate that things change nowadays you do need to consider
how much you need a book. As we all know, they can be out of date really
quickly. If you are already really experienced with a technology then I
guess what would be a ideal would be a what's new book which only covers
the new features of a version. But as there doesn't seem to be huge enough
demand for dedicated cf books, I'm not sure if there would be sufficient
demand for such a book.

Did I mention I love O'reilly Safari?

~k

 -Original Message-
 From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 11 May 2005 13:00
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
 Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because everytime a
 new
 version of CF comes out, I find myself TOTALLY plunking down $55 for his
 new
 revised version of CFWACK!! He is sucking my bank account dry! Dryer than
 the Sahara I tell you.
 
 I hate you, Ben.
 
 Rey...
 
 PS: Of course, this message is all in jest and I don't actually hate Ben;
 well, maybe a little. Great books Ben. Keep up the great work bud.
 
 
 

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Books on OOP CFML (6.1 or 7)

2005-05-11 Thread Damien McKenna
Given that CFCs changed so much from 6.0 to 6.1 (and some more to 7),
what books would y'all recommend for learning OOP+CFML best practices?
How about when Fusebox 4 is thrown into the mix?  We're going to be
rewriting every single one of our sites soon and if I can learn enough
OOP before then I'll do it that way, otherwise it'll be a basic FB4 app.
 
-- 
Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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formatting with commas

2005-05-11 Thread jjakim
On an input page the user has a group of related check boxes that they can 
mark. (ie: type of eqp needs: dvd/projector/smartboard/etc). The user can check 
as many as needed.
On the report this info will be dumped into one column titled EqpNeeds. I set 
it so that if there's a 1 in the field it'll write out the type of eqp. (dvd 
smartboard) What I now want to do is add commas.  However because there are 6 
choices and 0 to 6 may be marked I can't think how to add a comma without it 
possibly looking funny (ie: the last item-or the only item- lists with a comma 
behind it.)
tia. j


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Re: Books on OOP CFML (6.1 or 7)

2005-05-11 Thread Aaron Rouse
When I looked into learning OOP everyone told me to read up on design 
patterns and work from there. I have a few books at home, one of which I 
read when I head to the gym but their names are eluding me. Neither are CF 
related at all though and I think there are none specific to OOP+CFML or 
were none last time I looked. Have you read any of the FB4 books? Seems like 
maybe they would cover what you would need to know for your goals and maybe 
point you in the direction of some other books non-CF related but cover OOP 
topics.

On 5/11/05, Damien McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 Given that CFCs changed so much from 6.0 to 6.1 (and some more to 7),
 what books would y'all recommend for learning OOP+CFML best practices?
 How about when Fusebox 4 is thrown into the mix? We're going to be
 rewriting every single one of our sites soon and if I can learn enough
 OOP before then I'll do it that way, otherwise it'll be a basic FB4 app.
 



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Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Rey Bango
Subtle way of saying in the bathroom? ;o)

Rey...

- Original Message - 
From: Clint Tredway [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta


 the main reason I buy books is for when I am not online and need a 
 reference...

 On 5/11/05, Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yea, those books just don't stand up to the pressure.  All three of my
 copies (4.0, 5.0, MX) are in quite horrible condition. :)

 Micha Schopman wrote:
  I was astonished; he did not deliver a Ben Forta look-alike fake beard
  along with the book. Without kidding, his books are THE standard for
  learning ColdFusion. The only negative thing I have, after I opened the
  book two pages directly fell out of it. No problem though, fixed it 
  with
  some construction kit I just used for fixing a vase (thank you cats).
 
  Micha Schopman
  Project Manager
 
  Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
  Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
  KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380
 
  
  
  -
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  de interactie met uw doelgroep.
  Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer
  informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl
  
  
  -
  -Original Message-
  From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: woensdag 11 mei 2005 14:19
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
  Not always, and also there's often some neat gems of capabilities 
  hidden
  there.
 
  For example the one for CFMX 6 had a nifty regular expression tester 
  for
  CFMX in it...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:04 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
  Q. Why on earth do you need these books now?  The CF Docs are more than
  enoughif not better.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 11 May 2005 14:00
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
  Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because everytime a
  new
  version of CF comes out, I find myself TOTALLY plunking down $55 for 
  his
  new
 
  revised version of CFWACK!! He is sucking my bank account dry! Dryer
  than
  the Sahara I tell you.
 
  I hate you, Ben.
 
  Rey...
 
  PS: Of course, this message is all in jest and I don't actually hate
  Ben;
  well, maybe a little. Great books Ben. Keep up the great work bud.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



 

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RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Jim Davis
For what it's worth I use the docs as my primary resource as well.

You can buy bound, printed copies directly from Macromedia and that's always
the first thing I do when a new version hits.  The online version of the
docs also includes many useful comments from anal retentive readers.  ;^)

Not that I don't love Ben but I honestly don't buy the WACK any longer
either.

I still highly recommend it to anybody that wants a book... but personally I
just find that I rarely get my money's worth from any technical books, even
uniformly excellent ones.

Jim Davis





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RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Jim Davis
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:49 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
 Well I still have my 4.0 CFWACK if anyone wants it ;-)

Well - I still have my CF 2.0 WACK - that bright yellow 14 lb. thing.

Neener neener neener.  ;^)

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Re: Cached query - Any way to tell when it was cached?

2005-05-11 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
 yeah, it's a pity cf doesn't have a built in 'cachedsince'
 value on
 returned queres. CF7 has gotten part of the way there with
 the new
 queryname.Cached value returning true/false but just need
 that last
 little bit..

 jb.

Iirc even before that you could reference cfquery.executionTime --
I've never seen an executed query return zero, and I've never seen a
cached query return anything other than zero, so it seems like it's a
reasonable indicator. Admittedly it's not very precise / explicite...



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RE: Cached query - Any way to tell when it was cached?

2005-05-11 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
I don't blame you. :) I'm just a big fan of options, so I figured I'd
give the FYI just for general purpose, so you can stash it away in the
back of your brain in case you have some other similar situation later
(presumably one that doesn't have a simpler solution, for example: if
you end up working on a project where the manager requires that all
caching be performed manually).

 Yeah, for simplicities sake I'll go with the other one,
 heh.

 Thanks for the help guys.

 -Original Message-
 From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 7:19 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Cached query - Any way to tell when it was
 cached?

 I think Ian's may be the way to go.  I am using
 cachedwithin as the data
 changes frequently so we cache it for 6 hours.  I don't
 think cachedafter
 will work.

 sure it will -- although the alternative is simpler...
 but fyi here's the way to accomplish 6 hr caching with
 cachedafter:

 cfparam name=application.queryname.cachedafter
 type=date
 default=#now()#

 cfif
 abs(datediff(h,application.queryname.cachedafter,now()))
  gte
 6
   cfset application.queryname.cachedafter = now()
 /cfif

 cfquery name=queryname
 cachedafter=#application.queryname.cachedafter#
 .../cfquery

 cfoutputreport last generated on
 #application.queryname.cachedafter#/cfoutput


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Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Aaron Rouse
What color was the 3.0 one? I have a bright yellow CFWACK and always assumed 
it was for version 3. I have the 4.0 one and a 5.0 one as well. Heck I still 
have the docs for CF 1 sitting on my desk, maybe I should clean up that desk 
one of these days.

On 5/11/05, Jim Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:49 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
  Well I still have my 4.0 CFWACK if anyone wants it ;-)
 
 Well - I still have my CF 2.0 WACK - that bright yellow 14 lb. thing.
 
 Neener neener neener. ;^)
 
 Jim Davis
 
 
 

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RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Jeff Garza
Man... doesn't anyone have wireless here??? ;-)  I'm never offline...

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

Subtle way of saying in the bathroom? ;o)

Rey...

- Original Message - 
From: Clint Tredway [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta


 the main reason I buy books is for when I am not online and need a 
 reference...

 On 5/11/05, Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yea, those books just don't stand up to the pressure.  All three of my
 copies (4.0, 5.0, MX) are in quite horrible condition. :)

 Micha Schopman wrote:
  I was astonished; he did not deliver a Ben Forta look-alike fake beard
  along with the book. Without kidding, his books are THE standard for
  learning ColdFusion. The only negative thing I have, after I opened the
  book two pages directly fell out of it. No problem though, fixed it 
  with
  some construction kit I just used for fixing a vase (thank you cats).
 
  Micha Schopman
  Project Manager
 
  Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
  Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
  KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380
 
 

 

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  de interactie met uw doelgroep.
  Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer
  informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl
 

 

  -
  -Original Message-
  From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: woensdag 11 mei 2005 14:19
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
  Not always, and also there's often some neat gems of capabilities 
  hidden
  there.
 
  For example the one for CFMX 6 had a nifty regular expression tester 
  for
  CFMX in it...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:04 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
  Q. Why on earth do you need these books now?  The CF Docs are more than
  enoughif not better.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 11 May 2005 14:00
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
  Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because everytime a
  new
  version of CF comes out, I find myself TOTALLY plunking down $55 for 
  his
  new
 
  revised version of CFWACK!! He is sucking my bank account dry! Dryer
  than
  the Sahara I tell you.
 
  I hate you, Ben.
 
  Rey...
 
  PS: Of course, this message is all in jest and I don't actually hate
  Ben;
  well, maybe a little. Great books Ben. Keep up the great work bud.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



 



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RE: Google Web Accelerator problems

2005-05-11 Thread Kevin Graeme
 -Original Message-
 From: Jochem van Dieten 

 If users actually use Web Accellerator, Google has an even 
 better indicator of page quality then the number of links to 
 it: the number of hits and the time spend on a page. That is 
 criucial information for a Trustrank. And if they become the 
 domnant technology for that, they can hide a significant 
 number of hits for the competition.


Related to this, Google recently purchased the web stats company Urchin
which offers hosted stats service. It's a direct line into the analytics of
sites.

---
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Cooperative Extension Technology Services
University of Wisconsin-Extension
 



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RE: CFForm, Section 508, JAWS and Window-Eyes problem

2005-05-11 Thread Don Neizer
Sandy,
As promised, here's our latest posting. For others with this problem, the 
information from 
http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=fcd4391epss=rs 
was a nice try but did not work. As Sandy mentioned in a offline email, The 
problem with the MACR solution is that it requires the user to set up their 
Jaws in a certain way, which means that it can't be counted on.

Our next step involved getting another experienced JAWS to perform a test. 
Unfortunately, he was not able to make it work either. 

Our current step will be to contact Macromedia and ask them about their 508 
stuff for flash forms because ColdFusion MX 7 Flash Forms, unfortunately, don't 
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RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Calvin Ward
Those bound, printed copies cost $150 for the set. I'm thinking sub $40 per
book for the WACK and Advanced WACK is a better deal!

-Original Message-
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

For what it's worth I use the docs as my primary resource as well.

You can buy bound, printed copies directly from Macromedia and that's always
the first thing I do when a new version hits.  The online version of the
docs also includes many useful comments from anal retentive readers.  ;^)

Not that I don't love Ben but I honestly don't buy the WACK any longer
either.

I still highly recommend it to anybody that wants a book... but personally I
just find that I rarely get my money's worth from any technical books, even
uniformly excellent ones.

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RE: CFForm, Section 508, JAWS and Window-Eyes problem

2005-05-11 Thread Don Neizer
ColdFusion MX 7 Flash Forms, unfortunately, don't seem to be ready for 
government use.


A better attention getter than the earlier post's first line.

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Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Bryan Stevenson
3.1 was blue (2nd edition).my first CF Bible ;-)

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RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Ewok
Wireless on the bowl? Are you that dedicated?


Don't worry Ben, I'll still feed you. :p

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Garza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:04 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

Man... doesn't anyone have wireless here??? ;-)  I'm never offline...

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

Subtle way of saying in the bathroom? ;o)

Rey...

- Original Message - 
From: Clint Tredway [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta


 the main reason I buy books is for when I am not online and need a 
 reference...

 On 5/11/05, Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yea, those books just don't stand up to the pressure.  All three of my
 copies (4.0, 5.0, MX) are in quite horrible condition. :)

 Micha Schopman wrote:
  I was astonished; he did not deliver a Ben Forta look-alike fake beard
  along with the book. Without kidding, his books are THE standard for
  learning ColdFusion. The only negative thing I have, after I opened the
  book two pages directly fell out of it. No problem though, fixed it 
  with
  some construction kit I just used for fixing a vase (thank you cats).
 
  Micha Schopman
  Project Manager
 
  Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
  Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
  KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380
 
 

 

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  de interactie met uw doelgroep.
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  informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl
 

 

  -
  -Original Message-
  From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: woensdag 11 mei 2005 14:19
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
  Not always, and also there's often some neat gems of capabilities 
  hidden
  there.
 
  For example the one for CFMX 6 had a nifty regular expression tester 
  for
  CFMX in it...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:04 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
  Q. Why on earth do you need these books now?  The CF Docs are more than
  enoughif not better.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 11 May 2005 14:00
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
  Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because everytime a
  new
  version of CF comes out, I find myself TOTALLY plunking down $55 for 
  his
  new
 
  revised version of CFWACK!! He is sucking my bank account dry! Dryer
  than
  the Sahara I tell you.
 
  I hate you, Ben.
 
  Rey...
 
  PS: Of course, this message is all in jest and I don't actually hate
  Ben;
  well, maybe a little. Great books Ben. Keep up the great work bud.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



 





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Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Tony Weeg
i was about to say the same thing.

if im working, or need cf ANYTHING, im online
and thats that.

not sure how you can be offline these days?

tony

On 5/11/05, Jeff Garza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Man... doesn't anyone have wireless here??? ;-)  I'm never offline...
 
 Jeff
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:58 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
 Subtle way of saying in the bathroom? ;o)
 
 Rey...
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Clint Tredway [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:35 AM
 Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
  the main reason I buy books is for when I am not online and need a
  reference...
 
  On 5/11/05, Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yea, those books just don't stand up to the pressure.  All three of my
  copies (4.0, 5.0, MX) are in quite horrible condition. :)
 
  Micha Schopman wrote:
   I was astonished; he did not deliver a Ben Forta look-alike fake beard
   along with the book. Without kidding, his books are THE standard for
   learning ColdFusion. The only negative thing I have, after I opened the
   book two pages directly fell out of it. No problem though, fixed it
   with
   some construction kit I just used for fixing a vase (thank you cats).
  
   Micha Schopman
   Project Manager
  
   Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
   Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
   KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380
  
  
 
  
 
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   -
   -Original Message-
   From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: woensdag 11 mei 2005 14:19
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta
  
   Not always, and also there's often some neat gems of capabilities
   hidden
   there.
  
   For example the one for CFMX 6 had a nifty regular expression tester
   for
   CFMX in it...
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:04 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta
  
   Q. Why on earth do you need these books now?  The CF Docs are more than
   enoughif not better.
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 11 May 2005 14:00
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta
  
   Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because everytime a
   new
   version of CF comes out, I find myself TOTALLY plunking down $55 for
   his
   new
  
   revised version of CFWACK!! He is sucking my bank account dry! Dryer
   than
   the Sahara I tell you.
  
   I hate you, Ben.
  
   Rey...
  
   PS: Of course, this message is all in jest and I don't actually hate
   Ben;
   well, maybe a little. Great books Ben. Keep up the great work bud.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
 

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RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
If you have a licensed copy of CF they are free (used to be)



-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 11 May 2005 15:18
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

Those bound, printed copies cost $150 for the set. I'm thinking sub $40 per
book for the WACK and Advanced WACK is a better deal!

-Original Message-
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

For what it's worth I use the docs as my primary resource as well.

You can buy bound, printed copies directly from Macromedia and that's always
the first thing I do when a new version hits.  The online version of the
docs also includes many useful comments from anal retentive readers.  ;^)

Not that I don't love Ben but I honestly don't buy the WACK any longer
either.

I still highly recommend it to anybody that wants a book... but personally I
just find that I rarely get my money's worth from any technical books, even
uniformly excellent ones.

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RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
I have an ethernet port in the WC;-)

You just never know when you need to use it...





-Original Message-
From: Ewok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 11 May 2005 15:23
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

Wireless on the bowl? Are you that dedicated?


Don't worry Ben, I'll still feed you. :p

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Garza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:04 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

Man... doesn't anyone have wireless here??? ;-)  I'm never offline...

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

Subtle way of saying in the bathroom? ;o)

Rey...

- Original Message - 
From: Clint Tredway [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta


 the main reason I buy books is for when I am not online and need a 
 reference...

 On 5/11/05, Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yea, those books just don't stand up to the pressure.  All three of my
 copies (4.0, 5.0, MX) are in quite horrible condition. :)

 Micha Schopman wrote:
  I was astonished; he did not deliver a Ben Forta look-alike fake beard
  along with the book. Without kidding, his books are THE standard for
  learning ColdFusion. The only negative thing I have, after I opened the
  book two pages directly fell out of it. No problem though, fixed it 
  with
  some construction kit I just used for fixing a vase (thank you cats).
 
  Micha Schopman
  Project Manager
 
  Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
  Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
  KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380
 
 

 

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  de interactie met uw doelgroep.
  Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer
  informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl
 

 

  -
  -Original Message-
  From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: woensdag 11 mei 2005 14:19
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
  Not always, and also there's often some neat gems of capabilities 
  hidden
  there.
 
  For example the one for CFMX 6 had a nifty regular expression tester 
  for
  CFMX in it...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:04 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
  Q. Why on earth do you need these books now?  The CF Docs are more than
  enoughif not better.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 11 May 2005 14:00
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
  Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because everytime a
  new
  version of CF comes out, I find myself TOTALLY plunking down $55 for 
  his
  new
 
  revised version of CFWACK!! He is sucking my bank account dry! Dryer
  than
  the Sahara I tell you.
 
  I hate you, Ben.
 
  Rey...
 
  PS: Of course, this message is all in jest and I don't actually hate
  Ben;
  well, maybe a little. Great books Ben. Keep up the great work bud.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



 







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Re: [OT] SQL Audit with CF - or maybe triggers?

2005-05-11 Thread Michel Deloux
Thanks Jochem

We're using SQL Server 2000. Internally? But how to pass CF parameters
and save that parameters in... AuditTable? It's possible?


2005/5/11, Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Michel Deloux wrote:
 
  I'm a CF newbie and look for any sort of help for my application. How to 
  audit update and delete operations in our DB?
 
 Which DB? Some databases provide this functionality internally.
 
 
  I have try to use trigger but how to pass parameters for triggers like 
  userID, fields changed, etc?
 
 Can't you get that information from the :new and :old pseudorows?
 
 Jochem
 
 

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RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Jim Davis
 -Original Message-
 From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:18 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
 Those bound, printed copies cost $150 for the set. I'm thinking sub $40
 per
 book for the WACK and Advanced WACK is a better deal!

Whatever you prefer - but I find the CF Reference guide the most useful book
out of all of them - it's worth (the admittedly horrendously jacked up)
price.

I used to buy two sets of the docs - one for home, one for the office - the
price increases have stopped that.  But I still get one.

Jim Davis




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RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Calvin Ward
I don't believe they are anymore, but I could be wrong.

However, to be a developer, you only need the Developer Edition. It's your
host, company or what not that will need the licensed edition for any shared
environments.

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:18 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

If you have a licensed copy of CF they are free (used to be)



-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 11 May 2005 15:18
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

Those bound, printed copies cost $150 for the set. I'm thinking sub $40 per
book for the WACK and Advanced WACK is a better deal!

-Original Message-
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

For what it's worth I use the docs as my primary resource as well.

You can buy bound, printed copies directly from Macromedia and that's always
the first thing I do when a new version hits.  The online version of the
docs also includes many useful comments from anal retentive readers.  ;^)

Not that I don't love Ben but I honestly don't buy the WACK any longer
either.

I still highly recommend it to anybody that wants a book... but personally I
just find that I rarely get my money's worth from any technical books, even
uniformly excellent ones.

Jim Davis











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Re: (announce) cftips and captivate

2005-05-11 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I just put that up as a 'place holder' till I decide which blog to use. I'd 
write my own, but time

Love the conceptand I know it's under development...but please please 
please do not have Captivate load up right off the bat...it's a slow 
beast...way to slow for a home page ;-)

Looks like we're in for another CF community service from Mike D!!

Cheers

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Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Clint Tredway
while on an airplane, riding in a car, etc... plus there are times I
want to look at a book and not my screen ;)

On 5/11/05, Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i was about to say the same thing.
 
 if im working, or need cf ANYTHING, im online
 and thats that.
 
 not sure how you can be offline these days?
 
 tony
 
 On 5/11/05, Jeff Garza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Man... doesn't anyone have wireless here??? ;-)  I'm never offline...
 
  Jeff
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:58 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
  Subtle way of saying in the bathroom? ;o)
 
  Rey...
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Clint Tredway [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
  Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:35 AM
  Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
   the main reason I buy books is for when I am not online and need a
   reference...
  
   On 5/11/05, Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Yea, those books just don't stand up to the pressure.  All three of my
   copies (4.0, 5.0, MX) are in quite horrible condition. :)
  
   Micha Schopman wrote:
I was astonished; he did not deliver a Ben Forta look-alike fake beard
along with the book. Without kidding, his books are THE standard for
learning ColdFusion. The only negative thing I have, after I opened the
book two pages directly fell out of it. No problem though, fixed it
with
some construction kit I just used for fixing a vase (thank you cats).
   
Micha Schopman
Project Manager
   
Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380
   
   
  
   
  
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-
-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: woensdag 11 mei 2005 14:19
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta
   
Not always, and also there's often some neat gems of capabilities
hidden
there.
   
For example the one for CFMX 6 had a nifty regular expression tester
for
CFMX in it...
   
-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:04 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta
   
Q. Why on earth do you need these books now?  The CF Docs are more than
enoughif not better.
   
   
   
-Original Message-
From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 May 2005 14:00
To: CF-Talk
Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta
   
Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because everytime a
new
version of CF comes out, I find myself TOTALLY plunking down $55 for
his
new
   
revised version of CFWACK!! He is sucking my bank account dry! Dryer
than
the Sahara I tell you.
   
I hate you, Ben.
   
Rey...
   
PS: Of course, this message is all in jest and I don't actually hate
Ben;
well, maybe a little. Great books Ben. Keep up the great work bud.
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
 

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Re: [OT] SQL Audit with CF - or maybe triggers?

2005-05-11 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Michel Deloux wrote:
 
 We're using SQL Server 2000. Internally?

Doubt so, I only know of plugins for MVCC databases.


 But how to pass CF parameters
 and save that parameters in... AuditTable? It's possible?

With triggers you can access all the information in the update, 
but not random CF variables.

Are you trying to bold auditing on to an existing system? If so, 
how does that existing system do access control?

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RE: Dynamic Javascript Question

2005-05-11 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
last I knew javascript try-catch wasn't cross-browser... I think IE
allows it but Mozilla browsers tell you that you can't use the keyword
try when you attempt it. Or at least that was my experience
previously.

 Be careful with the private variables outside of your
 function scope.
 You might think you made them private, but in fact they
 are public
 because you have defined them outside the function. You
 have defined
 them as global variables now.

 I have enclosed the parts with try catch parts, which
 might help you
 finding out where it goes wrong.

 script type=text/javascript
   function clientRecPop(i) {
   if(parseInt(i) = 0){
   alert('i contained is not a valid number');
   return;
   }

   try{
   var clid =
 document.forms['clientSearch'].elements['client_id'+i];
   var compName =
 document.forms['clientSearch'].elements['client_id'+i];
   }catch(e){
   alert('something went wrong in the first part, fields
 not existing etc.');
   }

   if(window.opener){
   try{
 window.opener.document.forms['NewJob'].elements['clientID'
 ].value =
 clid;

 window.opener.document.forms['NewJob'].elements['coName'].
 value =
 compName;
 }catch(e){
   alert('something went wrong in the second part, fields
 not existing in opener window etc.');
   }
   }



   //window.close()
 }

 /script


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Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread George Abraham
Wireless is the way to go baby! And I have to say Wireless on the
Bowl wbagnfarb (would be a good name for a rock band).

George risking being cfcommunitized by the great MD /

On 5/11/05, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have an ethernet port in the WC;-)
 
 You just never know when you need to use it...
 


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Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Yves Arsenault
I bought the first (CF7), and I am going to buy the CF advanced.. 

Although, I do use the online docs when I need a reference... 

I also have someone doing a bit of work for me, and he finds the book
version very useful... he was more of a PHP guy, so a good starting
point with CF is CFWACK as opposed to the docs.

Sometimes, I find having print very handy... maybe it depends on my
mood... and amount of coffee intake.

But usually, online docs and google.

Yves

On 5/11/05, Calvin Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't believe they are anymore, but I could be wrong.
 
 However, to be a developer, you only need the Developer Edition. It's your
 host, company or what not that will need the licensed edition for any shared
 environments.
 
 - Calvin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:18 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
 If you have a licensed copy of CF they are free (used to be)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 11 May 2005 15:18
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
 Those bound, printed copies cost $150 for the set. I'm thinking sub $40 per
 book for the WACK and Advanced WACK is a better deal!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:58 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
 For what it's worth I use the docs as my primary resource as well.
 
 You can buy bound, printed copies directly from Macromedia and that's always
 the first thing I do when a new version hits.  The online version of the
 docs also includes many useful comments from anal retentive readers.  ;^)
 
 Not that I don't love Ben but I honestly don't buy the WACK any longer
 either.
 
 I still highly recommend it to anybody that wants a book... but personally I
 just find that I rarely get my money's worth from any technical books, even
 uniformly excellent ones.
 
 Jim Davis
 
 

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RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Airplane? I would be lost without my laptop on a plane!



-Original Message-
From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 11 May 2005 15:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

while on an airplane, riding in a car, etc... plus there are times I
want to look at a book and not my screen ;)

On 5/11/05, Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i was about to say the same thing.
 
 if im working, or need cf ANYTHING, im online
 and thats that.
 
 not sure how you can be offline these days?
 
 tony
 
 On 5/11/05, Jeff Garza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Man... doesn't anyone have wireless here??? ;-)  I'm never offline...
 
  Jeff
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:58 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
  Subtle way of saying in the bathroom? ;o)
 
  Rey...
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Clint Tredway [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
  Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:35 AM
  Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
   the main reason I buy books is for when I am not online and need a
   reference...
  
   On 5/11/05, Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Yea, those books just don't stand up to the pressure.  All three of
my
   copies (4.0, 5.0, MX) are in quite horrible condition. :)
  
   Micha Schopman wrote:
I was astonished; he did not deliver a Ben Forta look-alike fake
beard
along with the book. Without kidding, his books are THE standard
for
learning ColdFusion. The only negative thing I have, after I opened
the
book two pages directly fell out of it. No problem though, fixed it
with
some construction kit I just used for fixing a vase (thank you
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-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: woensdag 11 mei 2005 14:19
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta
   
Not always, and also there's often some neat gems of capabilities
hidden
there.
   
For example the one for CFMX 6 had a nifty regular expression
tester
for
CFMX in it...
   
-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:04 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta
   
Q. Why on earth do you need these books now?  The CF Docs are more
than
enoughif not better.
   
   
   
-Original Message-
From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 May 2005 14:00
To: CF-Talk
Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta
   
Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because
everytime a
new
version of CF comes out, I find myself TOTALLY plunking down $55
for
his
new
   
revised version of CFWACK!! He is sucking my bank account dry!
Dryer
than
the Sahara I tell you.
   
I hate you, Ben.
   
Rey...
   
PS: Of course, this message is all in jest and I don't actually
hate
Ben;
well, maybe a little. Great books Ben. Keep up the great work bud.
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
 



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RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Wireless is just to unreliable and slow for the files I need to transfer
(raw uncompressed video footage)



-Original Message-
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Sent: 11 May 2005 15:43
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

Wireless is the way to go baby! And I have to say Wireless on the
Bowl wbagnfarb (would be a good name for a rock band).

George risking being cfcommunitized by the great MD /

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 I have an ethernet port in the WC;-)
 
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RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Airplane? I would be lost without my laptop on a plane!

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Sent: 11 May 2005 15:43
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

Wireless is the way to go baby! And I have to say Wireless on the
Bowl wbagnfarb (would be a good name for a rock band).

George risking being cfcommunitized by the great MD /

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Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Bryan Stevenson
my standup jetski is not yet web ready ;-)

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Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Aaron Rouse
Having books around for others to reference here at work has been one of the 
better things I have done. Since we work a lot with CF5 still here, I have a 
wrox CF5 book, CFWACK 5, O'Reilly's CF 5 book and then an O'Reilly HTML and 
Javascript books sitting here. Do not think I have ever referenced them here 
but by having them here it at least has encouraged some of the others to try 
and read up on things in them and expand their skills.

On 5/11/05, Yves Arsenault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 I also have someone doing a bit of work for me, and he finds the book
 version very useful... he was more of a PHP guy, so a good starting
 point with CF is CFWACK as opposed to the docs.



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RE: formatting with commas

2005-05-11 Thread Ewok
Not quite sure I know what you mean but if the checkboxes are all named the
same with different values, then the form scope already holds a comma
delimited list of selected items

Eg...

input type=checkbox name=chk value=1 checked
input type=checkbox name=chk value=2 checked
input type=checkbox name=chk value=3 checked

If that were submitted then form.chk would be '1,2,3'

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Subject: formatting with commas

On an input page the user has a group of related check boxes that they can
mark. (ie: type of eqp needs: dvd/projector/smartboard/etc). The user can
check as many as needed.
On the report this info will be dumped into one column titled EqpNeeds. I
set it so that if there's a 1 in the field it'll write out the type of eqp.
(dvd smartboard) What I now want to do is add commas.  However because there
are 6 choices and 0 to 6 may be marked I can't think how to add a comma
without it possibly looking funny (ie: the last item-or the only item- lists
with a comma behind it.)
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RE: cfhttp/xml: The root element is missing

2005-05-11 Thread Ewok
I was recently having the same problem. It turned out to be a network issue.
Just to make sure, go to the server (if you can) and try to view the same
page.

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Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 11:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cfhttp/xml: The root element is missing

The following code structure works with CFMX 6 and IIS but is returning the
error The root element is missing on a server with CF5 and Apache 2. Any
help would be appreciated as I've spent many hours trying to figure out why
it is breaking on the other server. 
 
Thanks
 
 
cfsavecontent variable=xmlrequest
test
sample
blah490002/blah   
 /sample
/test
/cfsavecontent
 
cfhttp url=http://blah.com; method=POST
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Need some help with XML in CFC

2005-05-11 Thread Phill B
I have a query in a CFC that needs the results to be put into XML and
returned to the calling page. Every thing I try gives me errors and I
haven't found any thing on the web that helps. Any examples of how to
do this would be great.

By the way, I'm new to CFCs and XML so ignorance is most likely my problem. :-\
 
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Re: cfhttp/xml: The root element is missing

2005-05-11 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
 The following code structure works with CFMX 6 and IIS but
 is returning the error The root element is missing on a
 server with CF5 and Apache 2. Any help would be
 appreciated as I've spent many hours trying to figure out
 why it is breaking on the other server.

 Thanks


 cfsavecontent variable=xmlrequest
 test
 sample
 blah490002/blah
  /sample
 /test
 /cfsavecontent

 cfhttp url=http://blah.com; method=POST
  cfhttpparam encoded=no type=body name=ReturnXML
  value=#xmlrequest#
 /cfhttp

Document root element missing typically occurs when the xml packet is
an empty string, although it can occur on some occasions if you
attempt to deserialize a non-xml string, like Bob. (Plus I don't
think Bob likes being deserialized.)

If you're using cfsavecontent to generate the xml packet, and your xml
is valid (in the source) I would guess that it's not being written to
the output buffer either because it's inside a pair of cfsilent tags
or because you've got cfsetting enablecfoutputonly=true somewhere
above the cfsavecontent tag.

I would start by putting a pair of cfoutput tags around your
cfsavecontent tags. If that doesn't work, then you must be inside
cfsilent tags and you'll need to locate those and figure out how to
save your packet outside of them, or save the packet using cfset or
cffile action=read

hth

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XMLish question

2005-05-11 Thread Ian Skinner
I am experimenting with a concept of an idea.

So if one where to look at a fairly standard web page from a data descriptive 
point of view how would on actually describe the elements along the lines of 
XML.

For example how might one describe the standard page that had a header, main 
navigation, secondary navigation in a left column, main content in a center 
column and secondary content in a third column and some kind of footer?

Practically I'm looking for details of the content, such as paragraphs, lists, 
images and other elements that might comprise these sections.

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Re: Need some help with XML in CFC

2005-05-11 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
 I have a query in a CFC that needs the results to be put
 into XML and
 returned to the calling page. Every thing I try gives me
 errors and I
 haven't found any thing on the web that helps. Any
 examples of how to
 do this would be great.

 By the way, I'm new to CFCs and XML so ignorance is most
 likely my problem. :-\

You _probably_ need the xml you return as a string (not a ColdFusion
XML object) to then pass to a webservice on someone else's server. Am
I right?

You can either use cfxml which will produce an error if the xml is
invalid and then use toString() to return the text of the xml, or you
can use cfsavecontent to generate the packet, which won't produce
any errors if the xml is invalid, but doesn't require you to conver
it.

Here are samples:

cffunction name=getXML
  cfquery ../cfquery

  cfxml variable=mypacket
packet
  cfouptut query=...
morenodes //more
  /cfoutput
/packet
  /cfxml

  cfreturn toString(mypacket)
/cffunction

Or

cffunction name=getXML
  cfquery ../cfquery

  cfsavecontent variable=mypacket
packet
  cfouptut query=...
morenodes //more
  /cfoutput
/packet
  /cfsavecontent

  cfreturn mypacket
/cffunction


hth, good luck :)


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RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Ben Forta
And for that, my kids' college funds thank you. ;-)

--- Ben

PS I wish! 



-Original Message-
From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:00 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta

Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because everytime a new
version of CF comes out, I find myself TOTALLY plunking down $55 for his new
revised version of CFWACK!! He is sucking my bank account dry! Dryer than
the Sahara I tell you.

I hate you, Ben.

Rey...

PS: Of course, this message is all in jest and I don't actually hate Ben;
well, maybe a little. Great books Ben. Keep up the great work bud. 




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Re: Need some help with XML in CFC

2005-05-11 Thread Tony Weeg
couldnt he also append

FOR XML AUTO

to his query, which would put the load on the sql server.

tw

On 5/11/05, S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have a query in a CFC that needs the results to be put
  into XML and
  returned to the calling page. Every thing I try gives me
  errors and I
  haven't found any thing on the web that helps. Any
  examples of how to
  do this would be great.
 
  By the way, I'm new to CFCs and XML so ignorance is most
  likely my problem. :-\
 
 You _probably_ need the xml you return as a string (not a ColdFusion
 XML object) to then pass to a webservice on someone else's server. Am
 I right?
 
 You can either use cfxml which will produce an error if the xml is
 invalid and then use toString() to return the text of the xml, or you
 can use cfsavecontent to generate the packet, which won't produce
 any errors if the xml is invalid, but doesn't require you to conver
 it.
 
 Here are samples:
 
 cffunction name=getXML
   cfquery ../cfquery
 
   cfxml variable=mypacket
 packet
   cfouptut query=...
 morenodes //more
   /cfoutput
 /packet
   /cfxml
 
   cfreturn toString(mypacket)
 /cffunction
 
 Or
 
 cffunction name=getXML
   cfquery ../cfquery
 
   cfsavecontent variable=mypacket
 packet
   cfouptut query=...
 morenodes //more
   /cfoutput
 /packet
   /cfsavecontent
 
   cfreturn mypacket
 /cffunction
 
 hth, good luck :)
 
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RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
lol

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Sent: 11 May 2005 16:23
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

And for that, my kids' college funds thank you. ;-)

--- Ben

PS I wish! 



-Original Message-
From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:00 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta

Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because everytime a new
version of CF comes out, I find myself TOTALLY plunking down $55 for his new
revised version of CFWACK!! He is sucking my bank account dry! Dryer than
the Sahara I tell you.

I hate you, Ben.

Rey...

PS: Of course, this message is all in jest and I don't actually hate Ben;
well, maybe a little. Great books Ben. Keep up the great work bud. 






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RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Ben Forta
Ya know, it's a good thing I am not the overly sensitive type, or constantly
seeing this thread in my inbox would really upset me. :-)

FWIW, lost of folks are indeed buying CFWACK and CFADV, and for that I am
grateful (and quite honored too).

I agree that it is a shame that O'Reilly dropped their book, I think it was
a dumb mistake on their part (and spoke to them repeatedly trying to get
them to change their mind).

As for whether or not existing experienced CF developers should buy this new
edition, I'm not going to suggest they do, but rather suggest that they skim
the TOC to see if there is enough new content for them. While lots of the
book changed, very experienced developers may find that not enough changed
to justify the price (and the CFADV changes may be more useful than the
CFWACK changes). I'm not going to push one way or the other.

Oh, and yes, the MM docs are orders of magnitude better than they were way
back when, thank goodness for that.

--- Ben


 

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:18 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

Those bound, printed copies cost $150 for the set. I'm thinking sub $40 per
book for the WACK and Advanced WACK is a better deal!

-Original Message-
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

For what it's worth I use the docs as my primary resource as well.

You can buy bound, printed copies directly from Macromedia and that's always
the first thing I do when a new version hits.  The online version of the
docs also includes many useful comments from anal retentive readers.  ;^)

Not that I don't love Ben but I honestly don't buy the WACK any longer
either.

I still highly recommend it to anybody that wants a book... but personally I
just find that I rarely get my money's worth from any technical books, even
uniformly excellent ones.

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RE: XMLish question

2005-05-11 Thread Ewok
Of course its going to vary depending on the page and who's writing it. And
even then, the original idea is most likely going to be modified even more
as you get further into the project. Rather its for easier use or expansion.

You'll just have to sit down and itemize your site into sections. Then
itemize those sections into pieces.

Here's a basic starter that I'm SURE outlook is going to make a huge mess
of. Just copy and past it into DW or something else that will put the
formatting back.

Page
HeaderInfo
nodes /
/HeaderInfo
TopNav
NavItem display= location= /
/TopNav
LeftNav
NavItem display= location= /
/LeftNav
MainBody
SomeSection
title/
dateadded/
bodycopy/
/SomeSection
NewsMaybe?
NewsItem id=
title/
newsdate/
image/
newsstory/
/NesItem
NewsItem id=
title/
newsdate/
image/
newsstory/
/NesItem
/NewsMaybe?
/MainBody
FooterInfo
nodes/
/FooterInfo
/Page

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From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 11:11 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: XMLish question

I am experimenting with a concept of an idea.

So if one where to look at a fairly standard web page from a data
descriptive point of view how would on actually describe the elements along
the lines of XML.

For example how might one describe the standard page that had a header, main
navigation, secondary navigation in a left column, main content in a center
column and secondary content in a third column and some kind of footer?

Practically I'm looking for details of the content, such as paragraphs,
lists, images and other elements that might comprise these sections.

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Re: XMLish question

2005-05-11 Thread Massimo Foti
 Practically I'm looking for details of the content, such as paragraphs,
 lists, images and other elements that might comprise these sections.

Since XHTML's semantic isn't that rich, I guess all you can do is to
leverage the id and maybe the class attributes of the structural tags.
Then use XPath for make the parsing process easily.

It's just a very generic suggestion, but you haven't provide many details
about what you are trying to achieve.


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Flash Forms-display links

2005-05-11 Thread Jason Rogoz
is there any way to format text links to look like html links inside of a flash 
form? Is there any way to do this using cfformitem with type=html.  Right now 
all i get is black text

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Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Jeff Garza
Don't know about you, but I would never lug my WACK with me on an 
airplane... they'd probably charge extra for the added weight!

-- 
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Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta


 while on an airplane, riding in a car, etc... plus there are times I
 want to look at a book and not my screen ;)





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Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Jeff Garza
Now that's dedicated!

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Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta


I have an ethernet port in the WC;-)
 
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RE: XMLish question

2005-05-11 Thread Ian Skinner
Ewok

Thanks, that's pretty similar to what I was starting with, but different enough 
to give me some nice ideas.

So for the content nodes, would you just use established HTML markup for 
paragraphs, lists, quotes, things like that?


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RE: Cached query - Any way to tell when it was cached?

2005-05-11 Thread Scott Mulholland
Options are always appreciated!

Thanks again.

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From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Cached query - Any way to tell when it was cached?

I don't blame you. :) I'm just a big fan of options, so I figured I'd
give the FYI just for general purpose, so you can stash it away in the
back of your brain in case you have some other similar situation later
(presumably one that doesn't have a simpler solution, for example: if
you end up working on a project where the manager requires that all
caching be performed manually).

 Yeah, for simplicities sake I'll go with the other one,
 heh.

 Thanks for the help guys.

 -Original Message-
 From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 7:19 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Cached query - Any way to tell when it was
 cached?

 I think Ian's may be the way to go.  I am using
 cachedwithin as the data
 changes frequently so we cache it for 6 hours.  I don't
 think cachedafter
 will work.

 sure it will -- although the alternative is simpler...
 but fyi here's the way to accomplish 6 hr caching with
 cachedafter:

 cfparam name=application.queryname.cachedafter
 type=date
 default=#now()#

 cfif
 abs(datediff(h,application.queryname.cachedafter,now()))
  gte
 6
   cfset application.queryname.cachedafter = now()
 /cfif

 cfquery name=queryname
 cachedafter=#application.queryname.cachedafter#
 .../cfquery

 cfoutputreport last generated on
 #application.queryname.cachedafter#/cfoutput


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Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Tony Weeg
who needs ethernet?

my wireless work in my wc

:)

On 5/11/05, Jeff Garza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Now that's dedicated!
 
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RE: XMLish question

2005-05-11 Thread Ian Skinner
Yes, it was a very generic question.  This is just the very beginning of a seed 
of an idea that I'm playing with.

I'm starting with a very simple layout such as currently used on our site 
[www.BloodSource.org].  If I where to try and describe these pages in a 
XML/XHTML manner.  I can see how I would have a header node, navigation node, 
content nodes, ect.  But what about the actual content itself.  Does one just 
continue to use current HTML markup such as p, ul, ol, etcetera?


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Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 8:25 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: XMLish question

 Practically I'm looking for details of the content, such as paragraphs,
 lists, images and other elements that might comprise these sections.

Since XHTML's semantic isn't that rich, I guess all you can do is to
leverage the id and maybe the class attributes of the structural
tags.
Then use XPath for make the parsing process easily.

It's just a very generic suggestion, but you haven't provide many details
about what you are trying to achieve.


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RE: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Jim Davis
 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 12:07 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta
 
 who needs ethernet?
 
 my wireless work in my wc

Yours is wireless!?

Mine's still firmly attached... despite my wife's best efforts.

cf_rimshot

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Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Rey Bango
Yep and I'll get that one as well. The CFWACK provides the fundamentals of 
the new features and always serves as a great resource.

Rey...

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Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:45 AM
Subject: RE: I truly hate Ben Forta


 Wouldnt the Advanced CF 7 book be of more benefit than the CFWACK book?

 -Original Message-
 From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 11 May 2005 14:00
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: I truly hate Ben Forta


 Thats right! I said it!! I hate the man! I hate him because everytime a 
 new
 version of CF comes out, I find myself TOTALLY plunking down $55 for his 
 new
 revised version of CFWACK!! He is sucking my bank account dry! Dryer than
 the Sahara I tell you.

 I hate you, Ben.

 Rey...

 PS: Of course, this message is all in jest and I don't actually hate Ben;
 well, maybe a little. Great books Ben. Keep up the great work bud.




 

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Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Rebecca Wells
3.1 was blue (2nd edition).my first CF Bible ;-)

Mine too. Heck, I bought 2 copies, one for the office, one for home for when I 
can't sleep trying to figure out how to make some code work in my head. (Since 
I was just learning CF back then, I spent more nights like that then I do now!) 
I've bought every edition since then and will continue to do so. IMO there is 
so MUCH more in the WACK and Advanced Application Development books than the 
Live Docs! Money well spent.

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re: CFForm and jpegs

2005-05-11 Thread Jason Rogoz
Is there a coldfusion function that would return the mime type?  or would it 
just return the extension of the file...can coldfusion determine if the file is 
a  image/jpeg vs a  image/pjpeg?
 well your MIME types for jpegs are:  image/jpeg,image/pjpeg,image/jpg
 
 
 So I am assuming image/pjpeg is a progressive jpeg so don't allow it.
 
 ~Dave the disruptor~ 
 
 
 From: Jason Rogoz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 7:13 PM
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Subject: re: CFForm and jpegs 
 
 is there any way to check if the image is a progressive jpeg through 
 actionscript or by accessing any of the java objects in cf? we need to 
 be able to let user's upload images that are displayed in the flash 
 forms.
  because like flash, flash forms wont display progressive jpegs which 
 
  is probably what you tried to use.
  
  ~Dave the disruptor~ 
  
  
  From: Jason Rogoz 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 6:44 PM
  To: CF-Talk 
  Subject: CFForm and jpegs 
  
  Has anyone run into the issue of some jpgs not being displayed on a 
 cf 
  flash form? I have grabbed a couple random images off the net and 
  tried to display them without success. I was able to over write the 
 
  images with photoshop and then they were displayed on the form. Is 
  there a certain encoding within some jpegs that flash cannot handle 
 
  and is there a way to detect this before we allow the user's to 
 upload 
  the images?
  
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Re: [OT] SQL Audit with CF - or maybe triggers?

2005-05-11 Thread Michel Deloux
Yes. Our application is done and tomorrow my boss send an email about
Audit Control... ;-(

Thanx

2005/5/11, Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Michel Deloux wrote:
 
  We're using SQL Server 2000. Internally?
 
 Doubt so, I only know of plugins for MVCC databases.
 
 
  But how to pass CF parameters
  and save that parameters in... AuditTable? It's possible?
 
 With triggers you can access all the information in the update,
 but not random CF variables.
 
 Are you trying to bold auditing on to an existing system? If so,
 how does that existing system do access control?
 
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RE: XMLish question

2005-05-11 Thread Ewok
Personally, if it couldn’t be broken up into specific sections like simply
Title, Date, Author, Summary, Body, Image(s), etc.. or if you just didn’t
want to do it that way...

I'd use one 'Body' node for that section like...

NewsItems
NewsItem id=1

![CDATA[ div class=newstitleMy News Title/divdiv
class=newsdateMay 11, 2005/divdiv class=authorAuthors
Name/divbrdiv class=newsarticleSome big long news article with
tables, image tags etc... would go here./div ]]


/NewsItem
/NewsItems


Then all you would need to do is dump that nodes value out for the entire
news block. 


My News Title
May 11, 2005
E. Wok

Some big long news article with tables, image tags etc... would go here.


There are pros and cons for both and im sure one's will outweigh the other
in different scenarios but with the latter you have more control over the
display of the item than you would if you specifically set 'placeholders'
for each individual node.




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To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: XMLish question

Ewok

Thanks, that's pretty similar to what I was starting with, but different
enough to give me some nice ideas.

So for the content nodes, would you just use established HTML markup for
paragraphs, lists, quotes, things like that?


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Re: I truly hate Ben Forta

2005-05-11 Thread Rey Bango
Simple dude. You turn off the PC and your PDA. ;o)

Seriously, I disconnect as much as possible. After 17 years, I'm trying get 
a better balance in my life and while having online references is great, I 
kind of like reading a true-blue book every so often. Call me old school. 
:o)

Rey...

- Original Message - 
From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: I truly hate Ben Forta


i was about to say the same thing.

 if im working, or need cf ANYTHING, im online
 and thats that.

 not sure how you can be offline these days?

 tony



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