RE: zipping and unzipping a string

2005-10-16 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
It sounds like your 'database guy' has turned his own laziness into your
challenge. (Translated: cut his work load and quadrupled yours)I can't think
of any reason not to use the text data type when it's best suited for the
data in question.

Hopefully he manages the server all together so you can win the 'challenge'
and change his mind at the same time...

Store the data in a text file, store the name of the file in the database
and see if he'd rather use scattered hard drive storage rather than the
database that was meant to hold it in the first place. A few hundred text
files should help to change his mind.

It's almost worth the extra work just to teach him a lesson in data storage.

Ps. when he comes around, make him port all the files' data into the shiny
new Text field.

I can think of one or two other useless ways to do this but there's
seriously no point what-so-ever.

..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com


-Original Message-
From: John Blayter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 11:54 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: zipping and unzipping a string

I am looking for a way to zip and unzip a string without going to the hard
drive to perform I/O operations. I have started hacking away at some code
but I don't know enough Java to get it working.
 I have a WDDX packet that can be between 9 - 14K that we want to store in a
SQL server database. The database guy has hatred towards using a text data
type and has challenged us to find a way to fit a 14K wddx packet into a
varchar(8000) field. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 Thanks,

--
John Blayter
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Re: Forums w/external authentication

2005-10-16 Thread Raymond Camden
If you are using CF's roles based security, you could easily do it
with Galleon, my forums product. (ray.camdenfamily.com, my tools pod
on the right to download or see online example). My docs don't cover
this, but you would just need to make sure your users end up wiht a
Role value that works in Galleon.

On 10/14/05, Marty Johll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm looking at ways of integrating a forum into my site without having to
 have users login a second time into the forums. I curious if anyone has
 integrated a CF-based forum into their site that integrated your existing
 authentication?

 For example, fusetalk has the capacity to choose between local or external
 authentication and one may edit a login.cfm file to put one's own
 authentication in place and then set some variables based on your session
 (or cookie) variables. I tried installing fusetalk but I'm getting some
 errors and have questions into them, but while I'm waiting I thought I'd see
 what other may have done.

 Thanks,
 Marty


 

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RE: Forums w/external authentication

2005-10-16 Thread Tim Laureska
Hello Raymond... I am trying to integrate your Galleon forum into one of
my site (MSSQL)... quick question related to this topic... are these
role values in a table?  If so, what table?
Thanks
Tim

-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 7:15 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Forums w/external authentication

If you are using CF's roles based security, you could easily do it
with Galleon, my forums product. (ray.camdenfamily.com, my tools pod
on the right to download or see online example). My docs don't cover
this, but you would just need to make sure your users end up wiht a
Role value that works in Galleon.

On 10/14/05, Marty Johll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm looking at ways of integrating a forum into my site without having
to
 have users login a second time into the forums. I curious if anyone
has
 integrated a CF-based forum into their site that integrated your
existing
 authentication?

 For example, fusetalk has the capacity to choose between local or
external
 authentication and one may edit a login.cfm file to put one's own
 authentication in place and then set some variables based on your
session
 (or cookie) variables. I tried installing fusetalk but I'm getting
some
 errors and have questions into them, but while I'm waiting I thought
I'd see
 what other may have done.

 Thanks,
 Marty


 



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Re: zipping and unzipping a string

2005-10-16 Thread John Blayter
Some of his concerns are actually valid. It does take SQL server longer to
return a query with a TEXT field than it does that with just a varchar and
in this application a couple extra MS does count. The main issue with why we
are going this route is because we are going to load 65,000 of these into
the database. Right now we are pre-loading them into a structure in the
server scope. This sounds fine and all but it takes at least 30 minutes to
populate this structure with 5,500 entries from the database using an
asynchronous gateway. Using the server scope for all 65,000 entries will not
work because we will hit the memory ceiling of the JVM. Using the database
as a caching storage will allow us to manage the cache for all servers in
the cluster in a single place. Another advantage is that the cache will not
disappear if the server or service gets restarted.
 So it may sound minuscule or even petty but I can not store these files on
the server as it takes too long to do read operations on each one when I
need it. I can store them as a text field in the database but I am looking
for a faster way to use a combination of a varchar data type with
compression in the application level to shave off a couple more MS.

 On 10/16/05, Bobby Hartsfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It sounds like your 'database guy' has turned his own laziness into your
 challenge. (Translated: cut his work load and quadrupled yours)I can't
 think
 of any reason not to use the text data type when it's best suited for the
 data in question.

 Hopefully he manages the server all together so you can win the
 'challenge'
 and change his mind at the same time...

 Store the data in a text file, store the name of the file in the database
 and see if he'd rather use scattered hard drive storage rather than the
 database that was meant to hold it in the first place. A few hundred text
 files should help to change his mind.

 It's almost worth the extra work just to teach him a lesson in data
 storage.

 Ps. when he comes around, make him port all the files' data into the shiny
 new Text field.

 I can think of one or two other useless ways to do this but there's
 seriously no point what-so-ever.

 ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
 Bobby Hartsfield
 http://acoderslife.com


 -Original Message-
 From: John Blayter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 11:54 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: zipping and unzipping a string

 I am looking for a way to zip and unzip a string without going to the hard
 drive to perform I/O operations. I have started hacking away at some code
 but I don't know enough Java to get it working.
 I have a WDDX packet that can be between 9 - 14K that we want to store in
 a
 SQL server database. The database guy has hatred towards using a text data
 type and has challenged us to find a way to fit a 14K wddx packet into a
 varchar(8000) field. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 Thanks,

 --
 John Blayter
 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




 

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Re: flash forms and a bad directory structure?

2005-10-16 Thread Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg
i was /finally/ able to sus the problem... although i am not sure what
the exact cause is..
having this function in my Application.cfc caused flash remoting to
return a null... removing it cause all to work as planned...

cffunction name=onRequest returnType=void
cfargument name=thePage type=string required=true
cfinclude template=#arguments.thePage#
/cffunction

not sure why this is happening...

On 10/12/05, Arturo Fuentes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 nope. did nothing.

 On 10/12/05, Mike Soultanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yeah.. I dunno.. that is weird.  For kicks try putting it in the
  coldfusion webroot with the same file structure and see if it works.
  That might help narrow things down.
 
  Arturo Fuentes wrote:
   i did attempt that.. still no go.
  
   cfusionmx7\wwwroot
   and inetpub\wwwroot are two different directories.. but i don't use
   the cfmx one..
  
   On 10/12/05, Mike Soultanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Try setting up a mapping in CF server.  is your web server root the same
   as your cf web root?
  
   mike
  
   Arturo Fuentes wrote:
   i'm not sure what is happening here.
  
   my directory structure is :
  
   /projects/Pets/assets/com/petlog.cfc
  
   my code references this as:
myService = connection.getService(projects.Pets.assets.com.petlog,
   responseHandler );
  
I do not get a cfc location error.. i get a null back for my values.
  
BUT... if i move my cfc into the webroot /petlog.cfc
  
and call it as:
  
myService = connection.getService(petlog, responseHandler );
  
it  works  fine.. for obvious reasons i do not want to chuck my cfc's
into  the  root  of  my  server...  but i am not sure wtf is going on
here.. if anyone has any ideas or suggestions. i am open...
  
  
  
  
  
 
  

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Re: Pluggable Security system/ app architecture (WAS: Re: Any Interest in a Completely Free CFML Calendar?)

2005-10-16 Thread Douglas Knudsen
this sounds interesting, having been submersed in Flex recently though
I have been learning the merits of JAAS in J2EE.  Since CF is a J2EE
app, we should be able to use JAAS.  This would seperate the security
stuffs from a CF app completely.  JAAS uses the J2EE container to
authenticate and authorise a user and is setup in a pluggable manner
already.

Now how to actually use this via CF?  Could write a CFC that
interfaces with the Java httpsession to get the user principal and
list of roles a user is in I suppose.

something to chew on while I'm at MAXof to some Flex training

DK

On 10/14/05, Robert Munn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Your question brings up a question I have been thinking about for some time. 
 At various times over the years I have used and integrated third party 
 components (like calendaring) and applications into my solutions. The two 
 biggest stumbling blocks are always the same:

 1. Apps written in their own frameworks, no framework, etc. That's fine for 
 black-box code but not for something you may need to modify.

 2. Full blown apps use their own user and security models, so plugging them 
 into an existing application tends to mean either integrating at the database 
 layer or bolting on something external.

 These problems are hardly unique to CF or even Web development. A common 
 solution in enterprise apps is to bolt everything to LDAP/Active Directory, 
 but that is hardly ever used with externally facing apps.

 My question is, does anyone have an interest in building a pluggable 
 application architecture around a common identity management system, or has 
 anyone seen something like this for CF or other dev. platforms (other than 
 LDAP)? Or is LDAP being used externally now?

 The basic idea would be to build an identity management system that could 
 link into a pluggable application architecture. The whole system could be 
 exposed through a Web services API that would allow you to register any third 
 party app as a client of the identity management system. Adapters could be 
 built to link into data providers like LDAP servers if that is desirable 
 functionality.

 Thoughts?

 Rob


 For some time now, Vivio Technologies has been debating whether or not
 to put forth the effort to complete the development of a completely
 free, (under a modified open-source MIT license) CFML calendar
 application. The idea was to develop a calendar application that anyone
 could do anything they want with, and help support the Cold Fusion
 community as a whole. Companies who develop in CFML would have the
 ability to -re-design, re-code, -re-brand, re-sell, or whatever else
 they wanted to do with the calendar application. The calendar would be
 able to run under BlueDragon FREE edition, and use open-source databases
 like PostgreSQL and MySQL. That way, no user anywhere would need to pay
 for anything more then the cost of hosting in order to deploy the calendar.
 
 Our question is simple: Would there be any interest in something like this?
 
 If there is significant interest, Vivio Technologies will make the
 investment to complete the project and deliver the calendar. If there is
 only a small amount of interest, then we'll quit wasting our time
 debating over this project and move on to projects which are of more
 value to us and/or the community.
 
 Please take a moment to visit our current calendar site located at the
 following URL:
 
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RE: zipping and unzipping a string

2005-10-16 Thread Justin D. Scott
 in this application a couple extra MS does count.

 for a faster way to use a combination of a varchar
 data type with compression in the application level
 to shave off a couple more MS.

Don't you think that running a compress/decompress routine on the data is
going to negate those few ms you save on the database side anyway?  I would
think it would actually take longer, actually.  Just my $0.02.


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RE: zipping and unzipping a string

2005-10-16 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
I still see no valid concerns. It may take sql server a ms or two longer
to return the type if its full, yes. But you're going to do nothing but add
more time by compressing/decompressing or using the CF server to process
something that is better suited for the database to process. If time is your
concern, I still say make a text data type.

I know its not a good idea to store the data in text files... the point was
to hope your dba realized that too.

 
..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
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http://acoderslife.com
-Original Message-
From: John Blayter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 8:40 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: zipping and unzipping a string

Some of his concerns are actually valid. It does take SQL server longer to
return a query with a TEXT field than it does that with just a varchar and
in this application a couple extra MS does count. The main issue with why we
are going this route is because we are going to load 65,000 of these into
the database. Right now we are pre-loading them into a structure in the
server scope. This sounds fine and all but it takes at least 30 minutes to
populate this structure with 5,500 entries from the database using an
asynchronous gateway. Using the server scope for all 65,000 entries will not
work because we will hit the memory ceiling of the JVM. Using the database
as a caching storage will allow us to manage the cache for all servers in
the cluster in a single place. Another advantage is that the cache will not
disappear if the server or service gets restarted.
 So it may sound minuscule or even petty but I can not store these files on
the server as it takes too long to do read operations on each one when I
need it. I can store them as a text field in the database but I am looking
for a faster way to use a combination of a varchar data type with
compression in the application level to shave off a couple more MS.

 On 10/16/05, Bobby Hartsfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It sounds like your 'database guy' has turned his own laziness into your
 challenge. (Translated: cut his work load and quadrupled yours)I can't
 think
 of any reason not to use the text data type when it's best suited for the
 data in question.

 Hopefully he manages the server all together so you can win the
 'challenge'
 and change his mind at the same time...

 Store the data in a text file, store the name of the file in the database
 and see if he'd rather use scattered hard drive storage rather than the
 database that was meant to hold it in the first place. A few hundred text
 files should help to change his mind.

 It's almost worth the extra work just to teach him a lesson in data
 storage.

 Ps. when he comes around, make him port all the files' data into the shiny
 new Text field.

 I can think of one or two other useless ways to do this but there's
 seriously no point what-so-ever.

 ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
 Bobby Hartsfield
 http://acoderslife.com


 -Original Message-
 From: John Blayter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 11:54 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: zipping and unzipping a string

 I am looking for a way to zip and unzip a string without going to the hard
 drive to perform I/O operations. I have started hacking away at some code
 but I don't know enough Java to get it working.
 I have a WDDX packet that can be between 9 - 14K that we want to store in
 a
 SQL server database. The database guy has hatred towards using a text data
 type and has challenged us to find a way to fit a 14K wddx packet into a
 varchar(8000) field. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 Thanks,

 --
 John Blayter
 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




 



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Re: Forums w/external authentication

2005-10-16 Thread Raymond Camden
Nope, it's hard coded. I'm at MAX now and don't have access to my code
(yes, I can download, but i'm rushing out), there are -3- roles for
Galleon, they _should_ be:

ForumsMember
ForumsModerator
ForumsAdmin

You would just need to pick one of those roles for your users.
ForumsMember is the one you probably want.

On 10/16/05, Tim Laureska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Raymond... I am trying to integrate your Galleon forum into one of
 my site (MSSQL)... quick question related to this topic... are these
 role values in a table?  If so, what table?
 Thanks
 Tim

 -Original Message-
 From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 7:15 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Forums w/external authentication

 If you are using CF's roles based security, you could easily do it
 with Galleon, my forums product. (ray.camdenfamily.com, my tools pod
 on the right to download or see online example). My docs don't cover
 this, but you would just need to make sure your users end up wiht a
 Role value that works in Galleon.

 On 10/14/05, Marty Johll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm looking at ways of integrating a forum into my site without having
 to
  have users login a second time into the forums. I curious if anyone
 has
  integrated a CF-based forum into their site that integrated your
 existing
  authentication?
 
  For example, fusetalk has the capacity to choose between local or
 external
  authentication and one may edit a login.cfm file to put one's own
  authentication in place and then set some variables based on your
 session
  (or cookie) variables. I tried installing fusetalk but I'm getting
 some
  errors and have questions into them, but while I'm waiting I thought
 I'd see
  what other may have done.
 
  Thanks,
  Marty
 
 
 



 

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RE: Verity and Asian languages

2005-10-16 Thread Matthew Walker
 created using japanese? well that's the first problem. if your
encoding is unicode then i think 
 you need to use uni as the language when you build the collections.
and yes question marks 

I see. I assumed the cfindex language attribute referred to the
language being indexed, but apparently it refers to the character set,
or at least the implied character set (i.e. Japanese implies Shift_JIS).
Thanks for the advice. 

 what do you mean by special intelligence to languages like Japanese?

I assumed the stem and suggestions functionality in Verity would require
an awareness of the language in question, which I assume the Unicode
language wouldn't be able to provide. 

I realise these issues I've been having probably stem from Verity being
a third party application, but I think the CF docs could be a bit
clearer about what exactly a language is in Verity. 

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Re: CF-Talk: Digest every 8 hours

2005-10-16 Thread Ken Auenson, II
One thing you could do, is to break your big string into smaller sizes that
will fit into the varchar(8000) columns, and have as many columns as
necessary... you could then have CF join the columns back together.
 Not the correct way to do things, but it should work.
 --
Ken

 On 10/16/05, CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com wrote:

 CF-Talk 16-Oct-05 Issue:2020
 In this issue:
 flash forms and a bad directory structure?
 Forums w/external authentication
 Forums w/external authentication
 Pluggable Security system/ app architecture (WAS: Re: Any Interest in a
 Completely Free CFML Calendar?)
 zipping and unzipping a string
 zipping and unzipping a string
 zipping and unzipping a string

 

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RE: Dreamweaver 100% processor usage

2005-10-16 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
There is always a choice, there is abolsulutely nothing which ties you 100%
down to DW AFAIK - I mean, all it creates is CFML and HTML, all of which you
can write in Notepad.



 



-Original Message-
From: Robert Everland III
To: CF-Talk
Sent: 14/10/2005 16:37
Subject: Re: Dreamweaver 100% processor usage

I have used CFEclipse and I have used Homesite +, they are both alright,
but sometimes you are not given a choice with what IDE you are forced to
use. Anyone have a suggestion for the 100% usage? I don't really need
suggestions for other IDEs, I am aware of all the ones that are out
there.



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Re: Dreamweaver 100% processor usage

2005-10-16 Thread Aaron Rouse
I have worked at many a place that if you installed CFEclipse, Homesite or
any software actually it would be a quick way to losing your job. Now since
notepad is almost always there, if I had to pick between notepad and DWMX
then I would go to DWMX and learn how to use it and work around its flaws.

On 10/16/05, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 There is always a choice, there is abolsulutely nothing which ties you
 100%
 down to DW AFAIK - I mean, all it creates is CFML and HTML, all of which
 you
 can write in Notepad.




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Re: cfform alert box

2005-10-16 Thread dave
it works fine (sans the popup of course) when the submit button is used

 why not remoting?
 cause i'm retrieving like 5 records not launching it to the moon ;)~

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From: Paul Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 12:39 AM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: cfform alert box 

dave wrote:
 butt now it doesnt delete the record, im thinking i gotta add the
 selectedIndex to the submitform, right now i have tis

and what shows up in the form structure when you do submit it via the
submit command?

and why aren't you using remoting for that black beret wearing user 
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eclipse web site

2005-10-16 Thread dave
http://www.eclipse.org/
 is it jacked for anyone else?

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RE: eclipse web site

2005-10-16 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
Seems fine to me
 
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: eclipse web site

http://www.eclipse.org/
 is it jacked for anyone else?

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Re: eclipse web site

2005-10-16 Thread Duncan
all good from australia.

On 10/17/05, Bobby Hartsfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Seems fine to me

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 -Original Message-
 From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 5:22 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: eclipse web site

 http://www.eclipse.org/
 is it jacked for anyone else?

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Re: eclipse web site

2005-10-16 Thread Tony
bloody well from salisbury :)

tw

On 10/16/05, Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 all good from australia.

 On 10/17/05, Bobby Hartsfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Seems fine to me
 
  ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
  Bobby Hartsfield
  http://acoderslife.com
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 5:22 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: eclipse web site
 
  http://www.eclipse.org/
  is it jacked for anyone else?
 
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RE: eclipse web site

2005-10-16 Thread Mike | NZSolutions Ltd
Sweet as from nz.

-Original Message-
From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2005 12:39 p.m.
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: eclipse web site


bloody well from salisbury :)

tw

On 10/16/05, Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 all good from australia.

 On 10/17/05, Bobby Hartsfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Seems fine to me
 
  ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
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  http://acoderslife.com
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 5:22 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: eclipse web site
 
  http://www.eclipse.org/
  is it jacked for anyone else?
 
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  wisdom and abuse at the same time.
 
 
 
 
 
 

 



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RE: CF-Talk: Digest every 8 hours

2005-10-16 Thread Dawson, Michael
I have done this in a few instances and it works great.  I agree it's
not a best solution, but it is a solution.

M!ke 

-Original Message-
From: Ken Auenson, II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 3:29 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF-Talk: Digest every 8 hours

One thing you could do, is to break your big string into smaller sizes
that will fit into the varchar(8000) columns, and have as many columns
as necessary... you could then have CF join the columns back together.
 Not the correct way to do things, but it should work.
 --
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RE: eclipse web site

2005-10-16 Thread dave
humm
 heres what it looks like to me

 http://www.jamwerx.com/eclipse.png

 what were u doing with the dog will?

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From: Mike | NZSolutions Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 7:48 PM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: RE: eclipse web site 

Sweet as from nz.

-Original Message-
From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 17 October 2005 12:39 p.m.
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: eclipse web site

bloody well from salisbury :)

tw

On 10/16/05, Duncan  wrote:
 all good from australia.

 On 10/17/05, Bobby Hartsfield  wrote:
 
  Seems fine to me
 
  ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
  Bobby Hartsfield
  http://acoderslife.com
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 5:22 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: eclipse web site
 
  http://www.eclipse.org/
  is it jacked for anyone else?
 
  ~Dave the disruptor~
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  wisdom and abuse at the same time.
 
 
 
 
 
 

 



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Re: CFAJAX return types docco

2005-10-16 Thread James Holmes
Yes, I've read that only a small subset of DOM methods will be
available for the HTML inserted into innerHTML. The tradeoff is
innerHTML is the fastest method of getting that content there in all
browsers.

http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/innerhtml.html

On 10/15/05, Dawson, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 But this doesn't always correctly update the page's DOM, right?  When we
 were testing this, I think IE (mac or pc, I forget) had some issues with
 inserting an entire branch of information into a single container
 without acutally creating the page elements using JS.

 I also don't remember the context in which it didn't work for us.  It
 may have been related to dynamically creating a form for later
 submission.  If you are only outputting data, this will probably work
 cross-browser.

 I guess one could determine this by viewing the DOM viewer that comes
 with FF's and IE's web developer toolbars.

 M!ke

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  Michael,
 
  I don't use much JS to do something with the cfajax results.  I
  preformat all the data in the CF function by stuffing HTML into the
  variable that gets returned.  Then I just use a simple function to
  stuff all the HTML and data into a div or something:

 

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RE: CFAJAX return types docco

2005-10-16 Thread Dawson, Michael
James, this is very interesting.  Thanks for the link.

M!ke 

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From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFAJAX return types docco

Yes, I've read that only a small subset of DOM methods will be available
for the HTML inserted into innerHTML. The tradeoff is innerHTML is the
fastest method of getting that content there in all browsers.

http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/innerhtml.html

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JDBC driver connection not working.

2005-10-16 Thread Claude Schneegans
Hi,

I'm trying to establish a connection to a JDBC database
The following code:
cfscript
factory = CreateObject(java, coldfusion.server.ServiceFactory);
ds_service = factory.datasourceservice;
datasources = ds_service.getDataSources();
ds = datasources[cfartgallery];
driverManager = CreateObject(java, java.sql.DriverManager);
con = driverManager.getConnection(ds.url, System, );
/cfscript
CFDUMP var=#ds#
CFDUMP var=#con#
/body
/html

works if the datasource uses the Microsoft Access driver which comes 
with CFMX 7.
But not with the Microsoft Access with Unicode .

The cfartgallery datasource was installed during the CFMX 
installation, and CFQUERTing the datasorce works,
but the code above does not work and produces a File not found error.

However, I created another datasource cfartgallery2 on the same Access 
file, but using the Microsoft Access driver,
and just change ds = datasources[cfartgallery]; for ds = 
datasources[cfartgallery2];
and the code works.

So, whats wrong with the Microsoft Access with Unicode driver?
 

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Re: eclipse web site

2005-10-16 Thread Claude Schneegans
Super cool from Quebec!

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Re: SOT: Thoughts on Requiring Javascript

2005-10-16 Thread John Wilker
I've never supported non-JS.

Cross browser JS, yes, but building a non-JS version...? Then what? A
version that works in Netscape 2? Maybe a Lynx only version? There comes a
point when you can't cater to the lowest common denominator.

IMO, JS is pretty darn common place. Those afraid of JS and cookies should
probably stick to sneaker net and snail mail :)

On 10/15/05, Dawson, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm interested in what you think of requiring JS for a web site. What
 is the current mentality on JS? I know that to use Gmail, Google Maps
 and, in our case, Blackboard Learning System, you must enable JS.

 I would love to get more into AJAX to make my pages easier to build and
 use, but I'm afraid I may alienate some people. I will say, that as an
 educational institution, we have some people that will disable JS, but
 it should be a minimal amount.

 Let's say that I do require an extensive amount of JS on my site (it
 will be an intranet), then how far do I go to support non-JS users?
 Let's also say I create a form that lets me look up a user based on
 their ID number, name or email address. AJAX will make this task very
 easy.

 However, if a person disables JS, should I bother to create a non-JS
 version of the page?

 I'm just curious in how far you go to require JS and, if you do, do you
 give an alternative other than Sorry, this page requires javascript?

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Re: embarrasing trouble starting coldfusion

2005-10-16 Thread John Wilker
I had a .bat file on my desktop that started IIS, CF, and SQL. I had another
that stopped all those services. That way my machine wasn't running those
servers when I didn't need them.



On 10/15/05, Jeff Garza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Try creating a batch file to do this for you...

 StartCF.bat
 
 net start Macromedia JRun CFusion Server
 net start ColdFusion MX 7 ODBC Server
 net start ColdFusion MX 7 ODBC Agent
 net start ColdFusion MX 7 Search Server

 I have these for all my development services (SQL Server, IIS, CF, MySQL)

 Cheers,

 Jeff
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Fuqua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 10:21 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: embarrasing trouble starting coldfusion

 Is there a way to force coldfusion to start on my laptop? I used to be
 able to start coldfusion simply by browsing to a page on my local root.
 That started to be problematic and then for a while starting coldfusion
 administrator from the start menu worked. Now, it takes me many many tries
 to get coldfusion started. It is driving me crazy, though many would say
 it
 is a rather short trip.

 Is there a way to start coldfusion from the run command or something. And
 how do I tell whether or not it is running. May be I am getting the Page
 cannot be displayed error while coldfusion is actually running?

 Thanks,

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Re: cfform alert box

2005-10-16 Thread Paul Hastings
dave wrote:
 it works fine (sans the popup of course) when the submit button is used

and what shows up in the form structure when you use the submit command?

  why not remoting?
  cause i'm retrieving like 5 records not launching it to the moon ;)~

then perhaps flash format isn't the way to go for this? unless the whole 
form is super complex, i don't see using flash forms for something 
you're not going to do w/remoting.


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Re: embarrasing trouble starting coldfusion

2005-10-16 Thread Tony
isnt it a service and should start anyway?
that is, if its set up for automatic startup.

tw

On 10/15/05, Mark Fuqua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there a way to force coldfusion to start on my laptop?  I used to be
 able to start coldfusion simply by browsing to a page on my local root.
 That started to be problematic and then for a while starting coldfusion
 administrator from the start menu worked.  Now, it takes me many many tries
 to get coldfusion started.  It is driving me crazy, though many would say it
 is a rather short trip.

 Is there a way to start coldfusion from the run command or something.  And
 how do I tell whether or not it is running.  May be I am getting the Page
 cannot be displayed error while coldfusion is actually running?

 Thanks,

 Mark



 

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Re: CFAJAX return types docco

2005-10-16 Thread James Holmes
OK, folks, here it is:

http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/cfajax_return_types.htm

Please leave any relevant comments there (or alternatively post in
this list) if you think changes are appropriate.

I'll be doing more articles on CFAJAX, to try to make up for the go
and find it for yourself style of documentation currently on the
site. If Arun wants to use any of this stuff as documentation, he is
welcome.

On 10/17/05, Dawson, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 James, this is very interesting.  Thanks for the link.

 M!ke

 -Original Message-
 From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 7:27 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CFAJAX return types docco

 Yes, I've read that only a small subset of DOM methods will be available
 for the HTML inserted into innerHTML. The tradeoff is innerHTML is the
 fastest method of getting that content there in all browsers.

 http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/innerhtml.html

 

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RE: embarrasing trouble starting coldfusion

2005-10-16 Thread Mark Fuqua
Yes it should and it was.  It turns out it was Norton Internet Services.
Disable it and I could connect.  Wasted a whole weekend figuring that out.
Don't I feel stupid.

Thanks for the suggestions though.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 12:36 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: embarrasing trouble starting coldfusion


isnt it a service and should start anyway?
that is, if its set up for automatic startup.

tw

On 10/15/05, Mark Fuqua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there a way to force coldfusion to start on my laptop?  I used to be
 able to start coldfusion simply by browsing to a page on my local root.
 That started to be problematic and then for a while starting coldfusion
 administrator from the start menu worked.  Now, it takes me many many
tries
 to get coldfusion started.  It is driving me crazy, though many would say
it
 is a rather short trip.

 Is there a way to start coldfusion from the run command or something.  And
 how do I tell whether or not it is running.  May be I am getting the Page
 cannot be displayed error while coldfusion is actually running?

 Thanks,

 Mark







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