Re: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

[James Holmes]

How are you maintaining the session in .NET? With cookies or with URL variables?

On 12/15/05, Ken Ketsdever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We have a project that was poorly planned.
[snip]
> The issue we are running into is that the .NET session variables exist
> in .NET.  There are no problems with them.  However, if a user moves
> from the .NET piece to either of the CF pieces the .NET Session
> variables no longer exist upon return to the .NET piece.

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Group Query help.

[Nomad]

Hello!
How do I limit the number of rows returned per group in a grouped query.
My query:
Select pid, Details, Brand  from Products group by brand order by price

This query returns:

pid Details Brand
1abcdMacromedia
2efgh Macromedia
3efgh Corel
4abcf Corel
5errerAdobe

etc etc.

What I want to achieve is to limit the max number of rows returned per group
to say 5.
So if there are 10 Macromedia products in my db only 5 rows would show up.
Please note that my aim is not to limit the total number of rows returned
with a Top statement or similar.

Thanks in advance.

Ben





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Re: GIF Pipes/AJAX/async gateway

[James Holmes]

The CF will perform its job when the page is created, thus providing
the initial state of the page. The JS will take over from that point.
I've blended the two as per your example in the past with no problems.


On 12/15/05, Bryan Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey James,
>
> I've had a chance to checkout your CFAJAX examples and have a quick question 
> on
> a specific technical issue I was hoping you could answer before I climb on the
> AJAX wagon ;-)
>
> THE SCENARIO:
> I use this in my data driven select box options:
>  FORM.mySelectBox>selected>#recDisplayValue#
>
> THE POSSIBLE ISSUE (although I think it would be fine):
> If I was using CFAJAX to change the option values (and displayed values) based
> on some user action (like your related select box example), do you forsee any
> issues with my code above still running correctly?
>
> I'm just not sure what would happen if I change the option values and 
> displayed
> values via JS (your list box II example)how my bit of CF tucked in there
> would react.
>
> I'm also fighting a nasty coldso my brain may be playing tricks on 
> me...this
> seems like it should be fine...but making sure ;-)
>
> TIA
>
> Cheers
>
> PS...thanks for those examplessimple and clear!
>
> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> phone: 250.480.0642
> fax: 250.480.1264
> cell: 250.920.8830
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>
>
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Re: backslash-digit interpreted in strings

[Jonathan Gingerich]

Ah, sure enough.  I even read through the RE stuff earlier this year...
Now if they would just get it on the man page...

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Re: How can I use a .Net DLL with CFMX?

[dave]

god I gotta learn to type some day!  




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RE: backslash-digit interpreted in strings

[Matthew Walker]

That's a back reference. It refers to the fifth parenthesised section in
your regex. Of course you probably don't have a fifth parenthesised
section, so it's replaced with an empty string. You should be able to
just replace all "\" in your replacement string with "\\" first to fix
this.  

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Gingerich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 15 December 2005 3:01 p.m.
To: CF-Talk
Subject: backslash-digit interpreted in strings

I'm using REReplace and the replacement string contains a "\5".
The string came from a FORM, it was never a literal on a page.
Nonetheless, ColdFusion appears to process it out and it disappears.

Can anyone explain that this is not a straight out bug?



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Re: How can I use a .Net DLL with CFMX?

[dave]

Charlie,
First off all I am not trying to attack your product, actually I have a project 
coming up where it might interest me so I watch myspace very carefully to see 
how it performs.

Now, sorry but I don't by that explaination. 6-7 montha ago myspace was 
supposed to be running bd and then their were probs and as well all now and 
remember your ceo's reaction to that, if you don't search seans 
blog.

And yes I am away of the size of myspace and all their servers and yada yada 
yada, and yes I have seen errors with their code exposed and it looked like a 
2nd grader was writing it.

So it's been what at least 6 months now? How much time do they need?

But the real reason why I can't rely on what you state below is that I haven't 
seen a macromedia cfm error in months and the ones I see generally are a bit 
nicer and believe me I know what error messags look like, after all I help will 
a lot ;) haha But the errors I see certainly arent macromedia ones.

Like I said, bd might have a place for me but as far as myspace goes I don't 
see any improvements at all and really it couldnt be much worse then it was, 
now if myspace was now "smokin along" and acting like a real app then I would 
be all over bd.

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From: charles arehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 7:19 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: How can I use a .Net DLL with CFMX? 

Dave, MySpace is not yet running entirely on BD, so the problems you're seeing 
may just as well be code running on CF5, but failing simply because the volume 
of traffic is absolutely staggering. 

MySpace is either the 3rd or 4th highest trafficed web site of all, above 
google, (in terms of page views), depending on who you talk to (see 
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/nov2005/tc20051115_908925.htm or 
http://news.designtechnica.com/article8875.html for samples). 

That it's working at all with such volumes on CF5 is impressive to many (and I 
don't mean that as a slap, but we all know CFMX was designed to address 
perceived scalability issues with CF5.)

But MySpace knew that the time would come when CF5 would no longer cut it, and 
while they tried CFMX and passed on that, they were considering a move to .NET 
(and pure ASP.NET), when they learned of us. 

After testing last year showed that their code would not only work but work 
better on BD.NET, they bought and started making the move. The site is moving 
to BD by subsites (and across hundreds of servers each time). It's a huge site, 
and they have lots of ongoing responsibilities (always updating the site to 
appeal to their youthful audience) that understandably can get in the way of 
that effort. 

As for the people, I frankly would never get into a discussion of whether I 
thought one company's developers were "decent" or not. "Walk a mile in a man's 
shoes first" seems apt. Most of us know that many factors can influence the 
quality of code we have to support.

/charlie

> sorry charlie but not trying to be an ass but..
> 
> " We have plenty of shops who find the move to BlueDragon to be quite 
> painless "
> like myspace..
> Thats the one I measure BD by and to tell you the truth it seems worse 
> now then when it was on cf5 the error messages are a bit different 
> they are becoming "cultish" kinda like ms's most famous BSOD.
> 
> Is it BD or do they not have enough money yet to pay for decent 
> coders?
> 
> ~Dave the disruptor~



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backslash-digit interpreted in strings

[Jonathan Gingerich]

I'm using REReplace and the replacement string contains a "\5".
The string came from a FORM, it was never a literal on a page.
Nonetheless, ColdFusion appears to process it out and it disappears.

Can anyone explain that this is not a straight out bug?

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Re: Snippets

[dave]

and we got it on film
http://www.geocities.com/conkey2k/cocaine.jpeg

and hell, I thought you meant coke as in the one you drink

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From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I'm laughing for both of ya..while I clean the Coke off my desk that came out 
my 
nose ;-)

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Re: Snippets

[dave]

Yeah actually I can, same crap over and over from them.
My personal fav was last year their vp said their users didn't want things like 
tabbed browsing and the such and now they are gunna revolutionize the web with 
tabbed browsing. gimme a fuckin break

I got $100 that says their "snippets" dealy-o reports back to camp crapola (aka 
redmond) with the contents of the snippets since they obviously can't come up 
with their own, so they might as well steal yours

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From: "Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 4:24 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: Snippets 

Can you beleive that crap? I remember snippets way back in 
CF Studio in the previous century. Don't you think they 
could have come up with another name or something? Maybe 
balmerets or billets or codetts. I've heard storys about 
Mirosoft stealing ideas. This takes the cake.

Lee



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RE: Love flash in CFCHART but hate...

[Richard Colman]

Set it as a jpg... In cfchart 

-Original Message-
From: Steve Brownlee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:20 PM
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Subject: Love flash in CFCHART but hate...

It's been reported from some of my users that they find it distracting when
- using CFCHART and the Flash type - the bar chart has the animation every
time it's drawn.  I can't see any attributes to stop this annoying behavior.
Am I missing it, or is this simply something that we are forced to live
with?

- Steve




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Re: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

[Bryan Stevenson]

> Bryan says BD "would" have possibly been a good fit but "doesn't help with 
> the 
> current dillema". Perhaps it still can.

Well yes CharlieI assumed he didn't want a  whole new dev environment and 
to 
rip the app apart ;-)

but Ken...I'd call Charlie if I were you ;-)

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Re: GIF Pipes/AJAX/async gateway

[Bryan Stevenson]

Hey James,

I've had a chance to checkout your CFAJAX examples and have a quick question on 
a specific technical issue I was hoping you could answer before I climb on the 
AJAX wagon ;-)

THE SCENARIO:
I use this in my data driven select box options:
selected>#recDisplayValue#

THE POSSIBLE ISSUE (although I think it would be fine):
If I was using CFAJAX to change the option values (and displayed values) based 
on some user action (like your related select box example), do you forsee any 
issues with my code above still running correctly?

I'm just not sure what would happen if I change the option values and displayed 
values via JS (your list box II example)how my bit of CF tucked in there 
would react.

I'm also fighting a nasty coldso my brain may be playing tricks on 
me...this 
seems like it should be fine...but making sure ;-)

TIA

Cheers

PS...thanks for those examplessimple and clear!

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Re: more of my SQL issues :)

[John Wilker]

ha ha,

hopefully. Anyone? Anyone? Beuller?

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>
> Doh! I'm an Oracle person - maybe someone else can help.
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Re: Extending cftransaction

[Sean Corfield]

On 12/14/05, Chris Velevitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm curious as to why you don't like custom tags?

There's a couple of situations where I find them "natural" but mostly
I lean toward CFCs and UDFs because that's what's in my programming
background. Custom tags are just a bit "weird" to me... It's probably
about the same as someone with no OO background and how they might
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Re: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

[charles arehart]

Bryan says BD "would" have possibly been a good fit but "doesn't help with the 
current dillema". Perhaps it still can. :-) Ken, if you're interested in 
hearing more, contact me off-list, at [EMAIL PROTECTED], or feel free to call 
me at 678 256 5395.

/charlie

>Just wated to chimne in and say BlueDragon "would" have possibly ben a good 
>fit 
>for this combined technology projectalthough I know that doesn't help with 
>you current dilema.
>
>Cheers
>
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Re: more of my SQL issues :)

[James Holmes]

Doh! I'm an Oracle person - maybe someone else can help.

On 12/14/05, John Wilker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MS SQL
>
> On 12/13/05, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > For the ideal, you will need to write a custom DB function to pull out
> > the choices as a list. What's your target DB?

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Re: Extending cftransaction

[Chris Velevitch]

On 12/14/05, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 12/13/05, Chris Velevitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I agree, so why doesn't cf support this natively? One should be able to 
> > say:-
> >
> >  
> >
> >  
>
> It sounds like a good enhancement request to me:
>
> http://macromedia.com/go/wish

I've already done this.

I'm curious as to why you don't like custom tags? To me, and with a
little tweaking, custom tags is a way to add aspects to coldfusion
(albeit in a limited way).


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Re: Love flash in CFCHART but hate...

[Raymond Camden]

You can configure a _lot_ of stuff via the cfcharts command line
designer program. It is in your cfusion/bin folder I believe. If you
search Tim Buntel's blog, he wrote an entry about it a few months
back.


On 12/14/05, Steve Brownlee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's been reported from some of my users that they find it distracting when -
> using CFCHART and the Flash type - the bar chart has the animation every time
> it's drawn.  I can't see any attributes to stop this annoying behavior.  Am I
> missing it, or is this simply something that we are forced to live with?
>
> - Steve
>
>
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Re: WebService worked in 6.1 but fails with CFMX 7.0

[Brad Haas]

Are you using the DevNet version of CF 7?  That meta tag that it throws in can 
really screw up a lot of things.

--Brad


> Thanks for the email Andrew. The CFML code IS identical. I have one of 
> my developers reviewing how the client app uses the WSDL, and I guess 
> its likely that it was written to specifically handle the previous 
> format.

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Love flash in CFCHART but hate...

[Steve Brownlee]

It's been reported from some of my users that they find it distracting when -
using CFCHART and the Flash type - the bar chart has the animation every time
it's drawn.  I can't see any attributes to stop this annoying behavior.  Am I
missing it, or is this simply something that we are forced to live with?

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Re: Cannot get CFMX6 to come back after reboot

[Joe Tseng]

I think your original assertion was right...  It was suggested by someone else 
that I run C:\CFusionMX\bin\connectors\IIS_connector.bat and it worked!!!  
*woohoo*

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RE: RSS looks ok but not ok

[Matthew Walker]

Interestingly, getting the same thing with anonymizer:
http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.tramper.co.nz/tracks/index.cf
m?&view=browse&layout=rss 

And getting it on regular HTML pages too. I'll have to follow up the
client variables connection (have to do it later though as I'm at work
and that isn't work ;-) ). Will post the results of what I find. 



-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 15 December 2005 10:46 a.m.
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: RSS looks ok but not ok

I see the JRun error at the end, so it's not just the validator. 
Perhaps you're hitting it on a different vhost (because you're not
outside your network) or something?

cheers,
barneyb

On 12/14/05, Matthew Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Any ideas why the feed validator would be seeing something different 
> from what I see (and rejecting the feed)?
>
> Here's the feed:
> http://www.tramper.co.nz/tracks/index.cfm?&view=browse&layout=rss
>
> Here's what the validator sees at the end:
>
> 
> 
>  JRun Servlet Error500 Operation

> failed on the data source named "tramperconz". Operation 
> failed on the data source named "tramperconz".
>
> I don't even understand that error -- there's nothing wrong with the 
> datasource or the feed wouldn't display. Any hints?
>
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Re: Cannot get CFMX6 to come back after reboot

[Joe Tseng]

I found something that may relate to my current problem...  I found the JRun 
used for CFMX and I saw these lines:

JRun 4.0 ISAPI Extension 47304 - May 2 2002
initProxy failed to fetch server properties
could not initialize Server_1:127.0.0.1:51010
couldn't initialize from remote server, deferring init till request time

Under IIS//Properties/ISAPI Filters there's an entry for "JRun 
Connector Filter", and it's labed as running on high priority.  Does my problem 
have something to do with that?  And is there some way I can restart that 
filter?


>I think this might point to the fact that IIS has lost its association with
>.cfm files.
>
>You can check this in the web site properties under IIS, Home Directory Tab,
>click Configuration button in application section.
>
>This should show .cfm, .cfml, .cfc files are all associated with jrun.dll
>
>Hope that helps.
>Mike T

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Re: Cannot get CFMX6 to come back after reboot

[Michael Traher]

I think this might point to the fact that IIS has lost its association with
..cfm files.

You can check this in the web site properties under IIS, Home Directory Tab,
click Configuration button in application section.

This should show .cfm, .cfml, .cfc files are all associated with jrun.dll

Hope that helps.
Mike T


On 12/14/05, Joe Tseng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I hope someone here can help me in a hurry...  I just rebooted
> my W2k web server w/IIS and now CFMX won't run.  I can access
> ...html files which means IIS is running fine.  I was also able
> to directly access my MSSQL instance.  However when I tried to
> access CFM files in the same directory as the .html files I
> get a 404 error.  When I try to access localhost/CFIDE/administrator
> I get the login page, but when I submit the form I get a
> 405 Resource Not Allowed error.
>
> I have already restarted the CFMX service twice since I rebooted
> the server to no avail.  Has anyone seen this before?  Thx.
>
> - Joe
>
>
> 

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RE: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

[Snake]

This is another plug for Blue Dragin I'm afraid.

With Blue Dragon.net you can mix and match CFML and asp.net, and session
variables will be available to both.
I.E session vars create din the .net code are available to CFML and vice
versa.
You can also include asp.net cod einto a .cfm file and vice versa.

Russ

-Original Message-
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Subject: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

We have a project that was poorly planned.   

One piece of the project was built by a very experienced CF developer.

Another piece was built by a good programmer fairly new to CF, with the help
of a senior CF developer. 

The third piece was built in .NET by a good developer with lots of GUI
experience but no web experience. 


The .NET piece is the entry point and both CF pieces point back to the
entry point.   So I can log in, work in the .NET piece then move to
either of the CF pieces but almost always end up back in the .NET piece.


The issue we are running into is that the .NET session variables exist in
..NET.  There are no problems with them.  However, if a user moves from the
..NET piece to either of the CF pieces the .NET Session variables no longer
exist upon return to the .NET piece. 

All pieces are within a single website.

Any idea what might be causing this or how to address the issue?

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RE: Snippets

[Snake]

Well u do know that homesite was originally created by the same guy who
makes topstyle.
Allaire bought it off him.
 

-Original Message-
From: Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 14 December 2005 21:22
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Snippets

Can you beleive that crap? I remember snippets way back in CF Studio in the
previous century. Don't you think they could have come up with another name
or something? Maybe balmerets or billets or codetts. I've heard storys about
Mirosoft stealing ideas. This takes the cake.

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RE: Calling a CF webservice VB6

[Snake]

Alas no, we had to resort to a http wrapper for VB6 purposes. 

-Original Message-
From: Anthony Prato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 14 December 2005 17:45
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Calling a CF webservice VB6

Can't help but I am interested in what you find. I want to have my VB guys
rewrite a few batch programs to post to web services rather than the
database directly. Got any good links?

On 12/14/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Got a web service running CFMX7.
> It works fine when called via .NET using SOAP, but we need to call it 
> via a
> VB6 application, which gives the following error. Anyone got any ideas?
>
> SoapMapper:The schema definition with a targetnamespace of 
> http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/ for SoapMapper string could 
> not be found HRESULT=0x80004005: Unspecified error
>  - SoapMapper:The SoapMapper for element string could not be created
> HRESULT=0x80004005: Unspecified error
>  - WSDLOperation:Initialization of a SoapMapper for operation 
> getMappings failed HRESULT=0x80004005: Unspecified error
>  - WSDLOperation:Initializing of the input message failed for 
> operation getMappings HRESULT=0x80004005: Unspecified error
>  - WSDLPort:An operation for port cf7adminapinew.cfc could not be 
> initialized HRESULT=0x80004005: Unspecified error
>  - WSDLPort:Analyzing the binding information for port 
> cf7adminapinew.cfc failed HRESULT=0x80004005: Unspecified error
>  - WSDLService:Initialization of the port for service cf7Adminapi 
> failed
> HRESULT=0x80004005: Unspecified error
>  - WSDLReader:Analyzing the WSDL file failed HRESULT=0x80004005: 
> Unspecified error
>  - Client:One of the parameters supplied is invalid. 
> HRESULT=0x80070057: The parameter is incorrect.
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>
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RE: RSS looks ok but not ok

[Matthew Walker]

Interesting point -- I'm storing them in that datasource. I'll
experiment with that, thanks! Still not clear what's actually happening
though. 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, 15 December 2005 10:31 a.m.
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: RSS looks ok but not ok

This looks a bit like a session or client variable storage

How are youi storing client/session variables?
dov

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Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 4:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RSS looks ok but not ok

Any ideas why the feed validator would be seeing something different
from what I see (and rejecting the feed)? 
 
Here's the feed:
http://www.tramper.co.nz/tracks/index.cfm?&view=browse&layout=rss
 
Here's what the validator sees at the end:
 


 JRun Servlet Error500 Operation
failed on the data source named "tramperconz". Operation
failed on the data source named "tramperconz". 
 
I don't even understand that error -- there's nothing wrong with the
datasource or the feed wouldn't display. Any hints?






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RE: Snippets

[Munson, Jacob]

Yeah, they usually love to change names, like bookmarks=favorites.  They
even do it with their own products, DTS became SSIS, 'Network
Neighborhood' became 'My Network Places', etc.

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> 
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> CF Studio in the previous century. Don't you think they 
> could have come up with another name or something? Maybe 
> balmerets or billets or codetts. I've heard storys about 
> Mirosoft stealing ideas. This takes the cake.

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Cannot get CFMX6 to come back after reboot

[Joe Tseng]

I hope someone here can help me in a hurry...  I just rebooted 
my W2k web server w/IIS and now CFMX won't run.  I can access 
...html files which means IIS is running fine.  I was also able 
to directly access my MSSQL instance.  However when I tried to 
access CFM files in the same directory as the .html files I 
get a 404 error.  When I try to access localhost/CFIDE/administrator 
I get the login page, but when I submit the form I get a 
405 Resource Not Allowed error. 

I have already restarted the CFMX service twice since I rebooted 
the server to no avail.  Has anyone seen this before?  Thx. 

 - Joe
 

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Re: RSS looks ok but not ok

[Barney Boisvert]

I see the JRun error at the end, so it's not just the validator. 
Perhaps you're hitting it on a different vhost (because you're not
outside your network) or something?

cheers,
barneyb

On 12/14/05, Matthew Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Any ideas why the feed validator would be seeing something different
> from what I see (and rejecting the feed)?
>
> Here's the feed:
> http://www.tramper.co.nz/tracks/index.cfm?&view=browse&layout=rss
>
> Here's what the validator sees at the end:
>
> 
> 
>  JRun Servlet Error500 Operation
> failed on the data source named "tramperconz".
> Operation failed on the data source named "tramperconz".
>
> I don't even understand that error -- there's nothing wrong with the
> datasource or the feed wouldn't display. Any hints?
>
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RE: RSS looks ok but not ok

[Katz, Dov B \(IT\)]

This looks a bit like a session or client variable storage

How are youi storing client/session variables?
dov

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From: Matthew Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 4:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RSS looks ok but not ok

Any ideas why the feed validator would be seeing something different
from what I see (and rejecting the feed)? 
 
Here's the feed:
http://www.tramper.co.nz/tracks/index.cfm?&view=browse&layout=rss
 
Here's what the validator sees at the end:
 


 JRun Servlet Error500 Operation
failed on the data source named "tramperconz". Operation
failed on the data source named "tramperconz". 
 
I don't even understand that error -- there's nothing wrong with the
datasource or the feed wouldn't display. Any hints?




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Re: Snippets

[Lee]

Can you beleive that crap? I remember snippets way back in 
CF Studio in the previous century. Don't you think they 
could have come up with another name or something? Maybe 
balmerets or billets or codetts. I've heard storys about 
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Re: Snippets

[Bryan Stevenson]

> Jacob--
>
> Reread the origninal message, note the smiley, and feel the overwhelming
> sarcasm wash over you.  Then laugh a bit.  :-)
>
> --Ben

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RSS looks ok but not ok

[Matthew Walker]

Any ideas why the feed validator would be seeing something different
from what I see (and rejecting the feed)? 
 
Here's the feed:
http://www.tramper.co.nz/tracks/index.cfm?&view=browse&layout=rss
 
Here's what the validator sees at the end:
 
 
 
 JRun Servlet Error500 Operation
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Operation failed on the data source named "tramperconz". 
 
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RE: .NET Variables within ColdFusion HELP!!!

[Ian Skinner]

Current testing is leading to something in the .NET coding.  I created a simple 
set of pages in ASP.NET (VB) and ColdFusion, each setting session values and 
displaying them on following pages.  I can bounce between the two application 
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Re: Snippets

[Ryan Guill]

Jacob I believe he was being facetious...

On 12/14/05, Munson, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not sure about Dreamweaver, but this is something that is available in
> both CFEclipse and HomeSite+.  I use them every day.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:36 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Snippets
> >
> > I just got back from the big Visual Studio and SQL Server
> > 2005 rollout and during the keynote they introduced this
> > really cool new thing called snippets. A place where you
> > can store code and easily get to it in the development
> > environment. Why didn't the ColdFusion guys think of this.
> > ;-)
> >
> > Lee Surma
> >
> >
>
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RE: Snippets

[Munson, Jacob]

I was wondering if you were being sarcastic, but I missed it.  :)

So Microsoft is just now putting this into VS?  That's just sad. 

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> 
> Jacob--
> 
> Reread the origninal message, note the smiley, and feel the 
> overwhelming 
> sarcasm wash over you.  Then laugh a bit.  :-)
> 
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RE: Snippets

[Ben Nadel]

Yeah, I actually JUST discovered the Code Templates in homesite from
listening to a Hal Helms podcast. That is one of the coolest things I liked
about Eclipse, but it rocks that HS has it also. CTRL+J launches the snippet
in homesite.

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Not sure about Dreamweaver, but this is something that is available in
both CFEclipse and HomeSite+.  I use them every day. 


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RE: Snippets

[Tim Heald]

I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:39 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Snippets
> 
> Not sure about Dreamweaver, but this is something that is 
> available in both CFEclipse and HomeSite+.  I use them every day. 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:36 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Snippets
> > 
> > I just got back from the big Visual Studio and SQL Server
> > 2005 rollout and during the keynote they introduced this 
> really cool 
> > new thing called snippets. A place where you can store code 
> and easily 
> > get to it in the development environment. Why didn't the ColdFusion 
> > guys think of this.
> > ;-)
> > 
> > Lee Surma
> > 
> > 
> 
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Re: Snippets

[Ben Doom]

Jacob--

Reread the origninal message, note the smiley, and feel the overwhelming 
sarcasm wash over you.  Then laugh a bit.  :-)

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Munson, Jacob wrote:
> Not sure about Dreamweaver, but this is something that is available in
> both CFEclipse and HomeSite+.  I use them every day. 
> 
> 
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:36 PM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: Snippets
>>
>>I just got back from the big Visual Studio and SQL Server 
>>2005 rollout and during the keynote they introduced this 
>>really cool new thing called snippets. A place where you 
>>can store code and easily get to it in the development 
>>environment. Why didn't the ColdFusion guys think of this. 
>>;-)
>>
>>Lee Surma
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 

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Re: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

[Bryan Stevenson]

Just wated to chimne in and say BlueDragon "would" have possibly ben a good fit 
for this combined technology projectalthough I know that doesn't help with 
you current dilema.

I do know I've seen this "session lost" issue posted many times on this 
list...but I've never read them...so I don't know if there is a solution.

If you haven't searched already...check the archives and you may find your 
answer ;-)

I will pay attention to this thread to see what the solution will be ;-)

Good luck

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RE: Snippets

[Munson, Jacob]

Not sure about Dreamweaver, but this is something that is available in
both CFEclipse and HomeSite+.  I use them every day. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:36 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Snippets
> 
> I just got back from the big Visual Studio and SQL Server 
> 2005 rollout and during the keynote they introduced this 
> really cool new thing called snippets. A place where you 
> can store code and easily get to it in the development 
> environment. Why didn't the ColdFusion guys think of this. 
> ;-)
> 
> Lee Surma
> 
> 

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Snippets

[Lee]

I just got back from the big Visual Studio and SQL Server 
2005 rollout and during the keynote they introduced this 
really cool new thing called snippets. A place where you 
can store code and easily get to it in the development 
environment. Why didn't the ColdFusion guys think of this. 
;-)

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RE: .NET Variables within ColdFusion HELP!!!

[Ian Skinner]

Can you find out if the .NET session is set to be killed once the app gets out 
of .NET environment? Looks like the session is killed once you navigate to 
different web site or a different section in a web site.

We can determine that the .NET session is not killed, but it may be being 
cleared.  But when the application returns to the .NET portion the session ID 
still exists, but none of the session values do.  Strangely if we put the 
ColdFusion under a different domain, this problem does not occur.  If the .NET 
code links to the CF code in the other domain and then the CF code returns to 
the .NET code in the original domain the .NET session values are just fine.


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RE: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

[Mehdi, Agha]

Ken,

Can you find out if the .NET session is set to be killed once the app gets
out of .NET environment? Looks like the session is killed once you navigate
to different web site or a different section in a web site.

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-Original Message-
From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 12:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

Couple of answers to your question.

The .NET portion is more than just an entry point. It contains
additional functionality.  

We are doing what we can to continue as a CF house.  There has been a
push for .NET by non-IS related management (read all you want between
the lines).  

One of the ways we are trying to do this is using both .NET and CF.
Attempting to show that .NET is no better than CF and they can actually
work together. (remember, the "poorly planned project" comment at the
start of the original post). 

Better planning and testing would have raised this issue earlier. 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

Hi Ken,

Is there a reason that the entry point is in .NET while everything else
is
CF? It seems logical that it might be wise to encompass the complete app
within one platform...

Cheers,

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: December 14, 2005 12:27 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

We have a project that was poorly planned.   

One piece of the project was built by a very experienced CF developer.

Another piece was built by a good programmer fairly new to CF, with the
help of a senior CF developer. 

The third piece was built in .NET by a good developer with lots of GUI
experience but no web experience. 


The .NET piece is the entry point and both CF pieces point back to the
entry point.   So I can log in, work in the .NET piece then move to
either of the CF pieces but almost always end up back in the .NET piece.


The issue we are running into is that the .NET session variables exist
in .NET.  There are no problems with them.  However, if a user moves
from the .NET piece to either of the CF pieces the .NET Session
variables no longer exist upon return to the .NET piece. 

All pieces are within a single website.

Any idea what might be causing this or how to address the issue?

Ken 

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RE: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

[Ken Ketsdever]

Couple of answers to your question.

The .NET portion is more than just an entry point. It contains
additional functionality.  

We are doing what we can to continue as a CF house.  There has been a
push for .NET by non-IS related management (read all you want between
the lines).  

One of the ways we are trying to do this is using both .NET and CF.
Attempting to show that .NET is no better than CF and they can actually
work together. (remember, the "poorly planned project" comment at the
start of the original post). 

Better planning and testing would have raised this issue earlier. 

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

Hi Ken,

Is there a reason that the entry point is in .NET while everything else
is
CF? It seems logical that it might be wise to encompass the complete app
within one platform...

Cheers,

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: December 14, 2005 12:27 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

We have a project that was poorly planned.   

One piece of the project was built by a very experienced CF developer.

Another piece was built by a good programmer fairly new to CF, with the
help of a senior CF developer. 

The third piece was built in .NET by a good developer with lots of GUI
experience but no web experience. 


The .NET piece is the entry point and both CF pieces point back to the
entry point.   So I can log in, work in the .NET piece then move to
either of the CF pieces but almost always end up back in the .NET piece.


The issue we are running into is that the .NET session variables exist
in .NET.  There are no problems with them.  However, if a user moves
from the .NET piece to either of the CF pieces the .NET Session
variables no longer exist upon return to the .NET piece. 

All pieces are within a single website.

Any idea what might be causing this or how to address the issue?

Ken 

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RE: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

[Ken Ketsdever]

It does not appear to be a timeout issue.  We can stay within .NET
without an issue. As soon as we leave .NET there are no Session
variables upon return, even if we click out then right back in.

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Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:15 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

Can you determine if the sessions are simply timing out?  It may be as
simple
as increasing the IIS session timeout value. 

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> From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:27 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!
> 
> We have a project that was poorly planned.   
> 
> One piece of the project was built by a very experienced CF developer.
> 
> Another piece was built by a good programmer fairly new to 
> CF, with the
> help of a senior CF developer. 
> 
> The third piece was built in .NET by a good developer with lots of GUI
> experience but no web experience. 
> 
> 
> The .NET piece is the entry point and both CF pieces point back to the
> entry point.   So I can log in, work in the .NET piece then move to
> either of the CF pieces but almost always end up back in the 
> .NET piece.
> 
> 
> The issue we are running into is that the .NET session variables exist
> in .NET.  There are no problems with them.  However, if a user moves
> from the .NET piece to either of the CF pieces the .NET Session
> variables no longer exist upon return to the .NET piece. 
> 
> All pieces are within a single website.
> 
> Any idea what might be causing this or how to address the issue?
> 
> Ken 



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RE: .NET Variables within ColdFusion HELP!!!

[Ian Skinner]

Can you determine if the sessions are simply timing out?  It may be as simple 
as increasing the IIS session timeout value. 


Not unless the default timeout is less then a minute.  It happens immediately.  
Click on a link from an aspx page to a cfm page, click a link back and suddenly 
no .NET session data.


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RE: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

[Kevin Aebig]

Hi Ken,

Is there a reason that the entry point is in .NET while everything else is
CF? It seems logical that it might be wise to encompass the complete app
within one platform...

Cheers,

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: December 14, 2005 12:27 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

We have a project that was poorly planned.   

One piece of the project was built by a very experienced CF developer.

Another piece was built by a good programmer fairly new to CF, with the
help of a senior CF developer. 

The third piece was built in .NET by a good developer with lots of GUI
experience but no web experience. 


The .NET piece is the entry point and both CF pieces point back to the
entry point.   So I can log in, work in the .NET piece then move to
either of the CF pieces but almost always end up back in the .NET piece.


The issue we are running into is that the .NET session variables exist
in .NET.  There are no problems with them.  However, if a user moves
from the .NET piece to either of the CF pieces the .NET Session
variables no longer exist upon return to the .NET piece. 

All pieces are within a single website.

Any idea what might be causing this or how to address the issue?

Ken 

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RE: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

[Steve Brownlee]

Can you determine if the sessions are simply timing out?  It may be as simple
as increasing the IIS session timeout value. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:27 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!
> 
> We have a project that was poorly planned.   
> 
> One piece of the project was built by a very experienced CF developer.
> 
> Another piece was built by a good programmer fairly new to 
> CF, with the
> help of a senior CF developer. 
> 
> The third piece was built in .NET by a good developer with lots of GUI
> experience but no web experience. 
> 
> 
> The .NET piece is the entry point and both CF pieces point back to the
> entry point.   So I can log in, work in the .NET piece then move to
> either of the CF pieces but almost always end up back in the 
> .NET piece.
> 
> 
> The issue we are running into is that the .NET session variables exist
> in .NET.  There are no problems with them.  However, if a user moves
> from the .NET piece to either of the CF pieces the .NET Session
> variables no longer exist upon return to the .NET piece. 
> 
> All pieces are within a single website.
> 
> Any idea what might be causing this or how to address the issue?
> 
> Ken 

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Re: Sharepoint

[Aaron Rouse]

That is interesting, the first time I tried to install SP it posted an error
at the end about how my IIS had FP Server extensions installed and how it
would not work with them there.

I have been debating of using SP for the quick and dirty for the document
repository needs but probably going to just do this whole thing in CF.  I
even have a document repository written for another project and probably
could find others online so it really does not come down to a development
time issue.  More of convincing the people who own both products to use the
paid one for it all instead of the free one for some or all.


On 12/14/05, Dawson, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> We are running it on a separate server, so I can't really say if it
> commandeers a server from other applications.  I do know that FrontPage
> server extensions appear to be based off of SP.  (You can see this in
> the IIS manager for a server that has FP extensions installed.)
>
> M!ke
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.NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

[Ken Ketsdever]

We have a project that was poorly planned.   

One piece of the project was built by a very experienced CF developer.

Another piece was built by a good programmer fairly new to CF, with the
help of a senior CF developer. 

The third piece was built in .NET by a good developer with lots of GUI
experience but no web experience. 


The .NET piece is the entry point and both CF pieces point back to the
entry point.   So I can log in, work in the .NET piece then move to
either of the CF pieces but almost always end up back in the .NET piece.


The issue we are running into is that the .NET session variables exist
in .NET.  There are no problems with them.  However, if a user moves
from the .NET piece to either of the CF pieces the .NET Session
variables no longer exist upon return to the .NET piece. 

All pieces are within a single website.

Any idea what might be causing this or how to address the issue?

Ken 

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RE: Sharepoint

[Dawson, Michael]

I will say that SP is pretty cool for quick dirty intranets and posting
documents.  It really benefits those that are not to be bothered with
using FrontPage or Contribute.

It does have a cool survey system built-in.  It's not perfect, but it
keeps us from having to write custom surveys in CF.

However, I do not believe SP to be the portal for our university as it
was told to be.  (The previous IT leader was a huge MS fan and SP was
the bee's knees.)

I would prefer to build a custom portal in CF, but if there are parts
that I don't want to 
build, such as the surveys, I will leave them for SP.

We are running it on a separate server, so I can't really say if it
commandeers a server from other applications.  I do know that FrontPage
server extensions appear to be based off of SP.  (You can see this in
the IIS manager for a server that has FP extensions installed.)

M!ke 

-Original Message-
From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 12:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Sharepoint

I meant to do all that I had very roughly outlined in my question.  I
was led to believe that by another CFM developer who just so happens to
have experience with Sharepoint as well.  I can not seem to find many
people who even know what Sharepoint is let alone who have used it which
also makes me relunctant to use it.  It certainly seems to be a very
powerful tool with a lot of capabilities and is free if you have Windows
2003 but if it is all that then I keep asking myself why can't I seem to
find much more than a small handful of people who know what it is let
alone use it.

This is what I had sent to him and his response was that he knows it
does all of it with the exception of the notifier but bet it could be
done just that he had never had to do it so did not know.

 - Repository for scanned and typed documents as well as a reference to
where the master printed document is stored.
- Security levels set to what group or individual documents can be seen
by what people
- Possibly the searching of document content
- Revision tracking, maybe via different documents but maybe a change
log where people key in the comments in a textarea
- Tracking of who has looked at the documents online as well as who has
pulled up the master location since this implies they pulled the master.
- Email notifiers which could be when a document is about to expire or
could be something else
- All sorts of Forms for things to be key'd in and stored such as when a
product is recieved what type of product it is and how many line items
it has so a form with text inputs and a grid input to allow multiple
line items and being able to relate key'd in information to a document
- Eventually maybe tie into some sort of bar coding system, but I would
imagine this system would be a seperate program with its own tables and
need to be linked in somehow for reporting or searching needs.

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Re: Sharepoint

[Aaron Rouse]

I meant to do all that I had very roughly outlined in my question.  I was
led to believe that by another CFM developer who just so happens to have
experience with Sharepoint as well.  I can not seem to find many people who
even know what Sharepoint is let alone who have used it which also makes me
relunctant to use it.  It certainly seems to be a very powerful tool with a
lot of capabilities and is free if you have Windows 2003 but if it is all
that then I keep asking myself why can't I seem to find much more than a
small handful of people who know what it is let alone use it.

This is what I had sent to him and his response was that he knows it does
all of it with the exception of the notifier but bet it could be done just
that he had never had to do it so did not know.

 - Repository for scanned and typed documents as well as a reference to
where the master printed document is stored.
- Security levels set to what group or individual documents can be seen by
what people
- Possibly the searching of document content
- Revision tracking, maybe via different documents but maybe a change log
where people key in the comments in a textarea
- Tracking of who has looked at the documents online as well as who has
pulled up the master location since this implies they pulled the master.
- Email notifiers which could be when a document is about to expire or could
be something else
- All sorts of Forms for things to be key'd in and stored such as when a
product is recieved what type of product it is and how many line items it
has so a form with text inputs and a grid input to allow multiple line items
and being able to relate key'd in information to a document
- Eventually maybe tie into some sort of bar coding system, but I would
imagine this system would be a seperate program with its own tables and need
to be linked in somehow for reporting or searching needs.



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>
> > Been led to believe that Sharepoint could just do it all...
>
> Sounds like propaganda (er, I mean marketing) talk to me.  I'd be wary
> of opinions from people that say ANYTHING can do it all, regardless of
> the company/product.  :)
>
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RE: Sharepoint

[Munson, Jacob]

> Been led to believe that Sharepoint could just do it all...

Sounds like propaganda (er, I mean marketing) talk to me.  I'd be wary
of opinions from people that say ANYTHING can do it all, regardless of
the company/product.  :)



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Re: Sharepoint

[Aaron Rouse]

That is a good question, I have been messing(messing=trying to get it to
install correctly) with Sharepoint some this week and asking around on it.
A few warnings I have recieved on it is that it will essentially take over a
machine because it is such a resource hawg.  One of them was:

"but be warned that Sharepoint will often insist on owning that machine,
making other web applications (especially .NET ones) inoperable"

I actually have the need to build a small intranet that amongst its need for
various forms for inputting data and searching on that it also needs a
document repository.  Been led to believe that Sharepoint could just do it
all, but been really hesitant to commit to that since been unable to
completely validate it.  One of the things it needs though that I know
Sharepoint is good at is a document repository.

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>
> Does anyone know if it is possible/practical to run CF pages within a
> Microsoft Sharepoint Server environment?
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Re: Calling a CF webservice VB6

[Anthony Prato]

Can't help but I am interested in what you find. I want to have my VB
guys rewrite a few batch programs to post to web services rather than
the database directly. Got any good links?

On 12/14/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Got a web service running CFMX7.
> It works fine when called via .NET using SOAP, but we need to call it via a
> VB6 application, which gives the following error. Anyone got any ideas?
>
> SoapMapper:The schema definition with a targetnamespace of
> http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/ for SoapMapper string could not be
> found HRESULT=0x80004005: Unspecified error
>  - SoapMapper:The SoapMapper for element string could not be created
> HRESULT=0x80004005: Unspecified error
>  - WSDLOperation:Initialization of a SoapMapper for operation getMappings
> failed HRESULT=0x80004005: Unspecified error
>  - WSDLOperation:Initializing of the input message failed for operation
> getMappings HRESULT=0x80004005: Unspecified error
>  - WSDLPort:An operation for port cf7adminapinew.cfc could not be
> initialized HRESULT=0x80004005: Unspecified error
>  - WSDLPort:Analyzing the binding information for port cf7adminapinew.cfc
> failed HRESULT=0x80004005: Unspecified error
>  - WSDLService:Initialization of the port for service cf7Adminapi failed
> HRESULT=0x80004005: Unspecified error
>  - WSDLReader:Analyzing the WSDL file failed HRESULT=0x80004005: Unspecified
> error
>  - Client:One of the parameters supplied is invalid. HRESULT=0x80070057: The
> parameter is incorrect.
>
>
> --
> Russ
>
>
>
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Re: Incomplete XML causes problems

[Mark Warrick]

Ok guys - rookie move on my part.  

Using the conditional "IsDefined" works perfectly in stopping the XML from 
parsing when no news results are returned.  Here's the complete working code:



 
















http://news.search.yahoo.com/news/rss?p=#search_term#&ei=UTF-8&fl=0&x=wrt";>









 





 
#xmlDoc.rss.channel.title.xmlText# 
#xmlDoc.rss.channel.link.xmlText#
#xmlDoc.rss.channel.lastBuildDate.xmlText# 


 
 
#xmlDoc.rss.channel.item[i].title.xmlText# 
#xmlDoc.rss.channel.item[i].description.xmlText# 
 
   





No current news stories matched your search criteria 
"#search_term#".










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CFC for Image Manipulation

[Adrian Showater]

Sorry, I know this thread is a few days old but...

I've done some image manipulateion with CFCs with mixed results.  I used the
Alagad Component and loved being able to do native calls in CF for image
manipulation, but I was dissapointed by the final file sizes of the images,
especially in the case of creating Thumbnails.  Using Image Magick, a
command line program that I gave a CFC interface to, I was able to get final
image sizes that were at least 1/2 the size of the Alagad images (generally
they were closer to 1/10th the size), and with much better quality (i.e., a
500kb image when resized to 50x50 px in Alagad is 20kb, in Image Magick the
same image is 2-3kb).  As such, I only use the Alagad component for
watermarking an image and use Image Magick for everything else.  The only
(big) drawback is that the server has to have Image Magick installed as
well, and I have run into some problems there.

Is anyone else familiar with Image Magick, and how does the final image
quality compare to Massimo's CFC?  I would consider using his component if
the final quality is at least as good, but my first concern is having the
best final product, not the means to get there.

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Incomplete XML causes problems

[Mark Warrick]

Hello,

I've written a simple Yahoo RSS XML parser which you can see here:
http://www.warrick.net/yahoo_rss_reader.cfm

If you enter a search term that matches current news, the script works fine.  
However, if there are no matching stories, the XML returned is incomplete and 
an error is returned stating that some part of the XML that the code references 
is missing.

I've tried evaluating the cfhttp.filecontent for the existence of certain 
things such as "We did not find results for" which you can see if you click 
through on the link this script generates.  But the error still occurs.  So 
what I need is some sort of error checking which will stop the XML from parsing 
if no news results are returned.  Here's the script so far.  Thanks!

---mark



 
















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#xmlDoc.rss.channel.title.xmlText# 
#xmlDoc.rss.channel.link.xmlText#
#xmlDoc.rss.channel.lastBuildDate.xmlText# 


 
 
#xmlDoc.rss.channel.item[i].title.xmlText# 
#xmlDoc.rss.channel.item[i].description.xmlText# 
 
   









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Re: Are arrays really passed by value? Practice shows otherwise.

[Joe Rinehart]

Wild, it looks like it's going to custom tags by reference, but UDFs
by value.  Here's a test I wrote:
















If arrays went to UDFs by reference, this would read "changed":
#myArray[1]#






If arrays went to modules/tags by reference, this would read "changed":
#myArray[1]#




 



-Joe

On 12/14/05, James Reily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> CF documentation states the following:
>
> "When you pass a variable to a CFML custom tag as an attribute,
> or to a user-defined function as an argument,  the following rules
> determine whether the custom tag or function receives its own
> private copy of the variable or only gets a reference to the
> calling page's variable:
>
> *  Simple variables and arrays are passed as copies of the data.
>If your argument is an expression that contains multiple simple
>variables, the result of the expression evaluation is copied to
>the function or tag.
> *  Structures, queries, and cfobject objects are passed as
>references to the object."
>
> HOWEVER, when I pass an array to a custom tag (.cfm), change its contents in 
> that tag, and then return to the calling tag, the array in the calling tag 
> contains the altered value. Is this a bug?  Or is the documentation old and 
> you can now pass arrays by value?
>
> Example:
>
> 
> 
> 
>
>  SomeArray="#VARIABLES.array1#">
>
> #VARIABLES.array1[1]#> 
> #VARIABLES.array1[2]#> 
>
>
> --
> Test.cfm:
> --
>
> 
>
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Sharepoint

[Richard Colman]

Does anyone know if it is possible/practical to run CF pages within a
Microsoft Sharepoint Server environment?

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RE: Are arrays really passed by value? Practice shows otherwise.

[Ben Nadel]

Nathan,

That's good to know, thanks! I was also under the impression that Arrays
were "simple" values. Its nice to know they aren't.

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-Original Message-
From: Nathan Strutz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:44 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Are arrays really passed by value? Practice shows otherwise.

Sounds like a bug in the documentation, a leftover from the olden
days. An array in CF is now a java.util.Vector, definately a complex
object! These should be pass-by-reference, aka, sharing a pointer.

-nathan strutz
http://www.dopefly.com/


On 12/14/05, James Reily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> CF documentation states the following:
>
> "When you pass a variable to a CFML custom tag as an attribute,
> or to a user-defined function as an argument,  the following rules
> determine whether the custom tag or function receives its own
> private copy of the variable or only gets a reference to the
> calling page's variable:
>
> *  Simple variables and arrays are passed as copies of the data.
>If your argument is an expression that contains multiple simple
>variables, the result of the expression evaluation is copied to
>the function or tag.
> *  Structures, queries, and cfobject objects are passed as
>references to the object."
>
> HOWEVER, when I pass an array to a custom tag (.cfm), change its contents
in that tag, and then return to the calling tag, the array in the calling
tag contains the altered value. Is this a bug?  Or is the documentation old
and you can now pass arrays by value?
>
> Example:
>
> 
> 
> 
>
>  SomeArray="#VARIABLES.array1#">
>
> #VARIABLES.array1[1]#> 
> #VARIABLES.array1[2]#> 
>
>
>

--
> Test.cfm:
>

--
>
> 
>
> 



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Re: Are arrays really passed by value? Practice shows otherwise.

[Nathan Strutz]

Sounds like a bug in the documentation, a leftover from the olden
days. An array in CF is now a java.util.Vector, definately a complex
object! These should be pass-by-reference, aka, sharing a pointer.

-nathan strutz
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On 12/14/05, James Reily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> CF documentation states the following:
>
> "When you pass a variable to a CFML custom tag as an attribute,
> or to a user-defined function as an argument,  the following rules
> determine whether the custom tag or function receives its own
> private copy of the variable or only gets a reference to the
> calling page's variable:
>
> *  Simple variables and arrays are passed as copies of the data.
>If your argument is an expression that contains multiple simple
>variables, the result of the expression evaluation is copied to
>the function or tag.
> *  Structures, queries, and cfobject objects are passed as
>references to the object."
>
> HOWEVER, when I pass an array to a custom tag (.cfm), change its contents in 
> that tag, and then return to the calling tag, the array in the calling tag 
> contains the altered value. Is this a bug?  Or is the documentation old and 
> you can now pass arrays by value?
>
> Example:
>
> 
> 
> 
>
>  SomeArray="#VARIABLES.array1#">
>
> #VARIABLES.array1[1]#> 
> #VARIABLES.array1[2]#> 
>
>
> --
> Test.cfm:
> --
>
> 
>
> 

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RE: WebService worked in 6.1 but fails with CFMX 7.0

[blists]

Thanks for the email Andrew. The CFML code IS identical. I have one of my 
developers reviewing how the client app uses the WSDL, and I guess its likely 
that it was written to specifically handle the previous format.


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RE: CF & mySQL date search query question

[Bobby Hartsfield]

MySQL has quite a few other handy date/time functions as well

Good place to bookmark
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/date-and-time-functions.html

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-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 10:00 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF & mySQL date search query question

Thanks ryan...it was actually posted to Sitepoint. :P

mySQL does have the year/month/day functions and that should work great,
thanks! And yeah...it is stored as a date/time field and not a string.



-Original Message-
From: Ryan Guill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF & mySQL date search query question


I have to say that its sort of funny that you surrounded your cf tags
with [php] but i suppose you probably cross posted this to a forum.

Either way, try something like this :


   AND YEAR(n.due_datetime) = '#FORM.year#'


   AND MONTH(n.due_datetime) = '#FORM.month#'


   AND DAY(n.due_datetime) = '#FORM.year#'


This is not tested, and i cant ever remember the differences in the
database types, but you should have some sort of date type functions
that will pull out the specific year month or day from a date and
compare it.  It will slow things down, but not any slower than doing a
LIKE.  If it doesnt work, you might need to make sure you are storing
it in the db as a timestamp, not a string.




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Are arrays really passed by value? Practice shows otherwise.

[James Reily]

CF documentation states the following:

"When you pass a variable to a CFML custom tag as an attribute, 
or to a user-defined function as an argument,  the following rules
determine whether the custom tag or function receives its own
private copy of the variable or only gets a reference to the
calling page's variable:

*  Simple variables and arrays are passed as copies of the data.
   If your argument is an expression that contains multiple simple
   variables, the result of the expression evaluation is copied to
   the function or tag.
*  Structures, queries, and cfobject objects are passed as
   references to the object."

HOWEVER, when I pass an array to a custom tag (.cfm), change its contents in 
that tag, and then return to the calling tag, the array in the calling tag 
contains the altered value. Is this a bug?  Or is the documentation old and you 
can now pass arrays by value?

Example:







#VARIABLES.array1[1]#> 
#VARIABLES.array1[2]#> 


--
Test.cfm:
--



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RE: CF & mySQL date search query question

[Andy Matthews]

Thanks ryan...it was actually posted to Sitepoint. :P

mySQL does have the year/month/day functions and that should work great,
thanks! And yeah...it is stored as a date/time field and not a string.



-Original Message-
From: Ryan Guill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:54 AM
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Subject: Re: CF & mySQL date search query question


I have to say that its sort of funny that you surrounded your cf tags
with [php] but i suppose you probably cross posted this to a forum.

Either way, try something like this :


   AND YEAR(n.due_datetime) = '#FORM.year#'


   AND MONTH(n.due_datetime) = '#FORM.month#'


   AND DAY(n.due_datetime) = '#FORM.year#'


This is not tested, and i cant ever remember the differences in the
database types, but you should have some sort of date type functions
that will pull out the specific year month or day from a date and
compare it.  It will slow things down, but not any slower than doing a
LIKE.  If it doesnt work, you might need to make sure you are storing
it in the db as a timestamp, not a string.


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Re: CF & mySQL date search query question

[Ryan Guill]

I have to say that its sort of funny that you surrounded your cf tags
with [php] but i suppose you probably cross posted this to a forum.

Either way, try something like this :


   AND YEAR(n.due_datetime) = '#FORM.year#'


   AND MONTH(n.due_datetime) = '#FORM.month#'


   AND DAY(n.due_datetime) = '#FORM.year#'


This is not tested, and i cant ever remember the differences in the
database types, but you should have some sort of date type functions
that will pull out the specific year month or day from a date and
compare it.  It will slow things down, but not any slower than doing a
LIKE.  If it doesnt work, you might need to make sure you are storing
it in the db as a timestamp, not a string.

On 12/14/05, Andy Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've got a form which submits 3 fields, year, month and day. In the db, I'm
> storing a standard date/time field (-mm-dd hh:mm:ss). The time portion
> of this is irrelevant for this form.
>
> What I'd like to accomplish is allowing the user to submit values for one or
> more of these fields and search the date column based on the values. So:
>
> year=2006 (return all records with a year of 2006)
> year=2005, month=12 (return all records from dec 2005)
> month=9, day=21 (return all records on sept 21 of any year.)
> day=21 (return all records on the 21st of any month/year)
>
> Admittedly this last example isn't all that useful, but it's possible. So
> right now this is what my query looks like:
> [php]
> 
> AND n.due_datetime LIKE '#FORM.year#-%'
> 
> 
> AND n.due_datetime LIKE '%-#FORM.month#-%'
> 
> 
> AND n.due_datetime LIKE '%-#FORM.year# %'
> 
> [/php]
>
> The problem is that this only allows the user to search against one of the
> fields; I need to do any/all. Does anyone have any ideas how I might
> accomplish this?
>
>  andy matthews
> web developer
> ICGLink, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 615.370.1530 x737
> --//->
>
>
> 

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Re: more of my SQL issues :)

[John Wilker]

MS SQL

On 12/13/05, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> For the ideal, you will need to write a custom DB function to pull out
> the choices as a list. What's your target DB?
>
> On 12/14/05, John Wilker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >   ideally I'd like 27, 'shiny,matte', 'blue,green'
> >
> > But could work with your version and create a struct out of the results
> the
> > way I want it.
>
> --
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> http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/
>
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CF & mySQL date search query question

[Andy Matthews]

I've got a form which submits 3 fields, year, month and day. In the db, I'm
storing a standard date/time field (-mm-dd hh:mm:ss). The time portion
of this is irrelevant for this form.

What I'd like to accomplish is allowing the user to submit values for one or
more of these fields and search the date column based on the values. So:

year=2006 (return all records with a year of 2006)
year=2005, month=12 (return all records from dec 2005)
month=9, day=21 (return all records on sept 21 of any year.)
day=21 (return all records on the 21st of any month/year)

Admittedly this last example isn't all that useful, but it's possible. So
right now this is what my query looks like:
[php]

AND n.due_datetime LIKE '#FORM.year#-%'


AND n.due_datetime LIKE '%-#FORM.month#-%'


AND n.due_datetime LIKE '%-#FORM.year# %'

[/php]

The problem is that this only allows the user to search against one of the
fields; I need to do any/all. Does anyone have any ideas how I might
accomplish this?




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Re: Javascript question - SOLVED

[eric.creese]

thanks that was exactly what I was trying to do.


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Re: Javascript question

[eric.creese]

That is what I want to do, show the button only after the "total" button is
clicked, so wouldn't have to do the visbility function pieces in the onclick
function? Here is what I have, should have included the other function. So
when I click SubtotalItem button the OrderTotal button will appear.

RE: Javascript question

[Bobby Hartsfield]

Give the button in question a style like...

Style="visibility:hidden;" to hide it

At the end of your 'calculate total' function or onclick of the total button
or wherever you wan it... put

document.myformname.mybuttonname.style.visibility='visible'; to show it

 
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Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:05 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Javascript question

Quick qustion, I have a submit button I do not want to show until a user
clicks a button to calculate a total first on the same page. How do I do
this?


  TOTAL:
  
  
  
 
 
  
   
   
  
  
 



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Calling a CF webservice VB6

[Snake]

Got a web service running CFMX7.
It works fine when called via .NET using SOAP, but we need to call it via a
VB6 application, which gives the following error. Anyone got any ideas?

SoapMapper:The schema definition with a targetnamespace of
http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/ for SoapMapper string could not be
found HRESULT=0x80004005: Unspecified error
 - SoapMapper:The SoapMapper for element string could not be created
HRESULT=0x80004005: Unspecified error
 - WSDLOperation:Initialization of a SoapMapper for operation getMappings
failed HRESULT=0x80004005: Unspecified error
 - WSDLOperation:Initializing of the input message failed for operation
getMappings HRESULT=0x80004005: Unspecified error
 - WSDLPort:An operation for port cf7adminapinew.cfc could not be
initialized HRESULT=0x80004005: Unspecified error
 - WSDLPort:Analyzing the binding information for port cf7adminapinew.cfc
failed HRESULT=0x80004005: Unspecified error
 - WSDLService:Initialization of the port for service cf7Adminapi failed
HRESULT=0x80004005: Unspecified error
 - WSDLReader:Analyzing the WSDL file failed HRESULT=0x80004005: Unspecified
error
 - Client:One of the parameters supplied is invalid. HRESULT=0x80070057: The
parameter is incorrect.


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Re: How can I use a .Net DLL with CFMX?

[Joe Rinehart]

Hey Charlie,

I didn't mean to infer compatibility issues.  I think BD is an
amazingly compatible product;  when I've switched to it, I've barely
noticed a difference.

What I was referring to is that if they've already payed a few grand
for their ColdFusion licenses, it may not go so well with their bosses
if they now need to buy BlueDragon as well.  That's all, nothing about
the product itself.

-Joe

On 12/13/05, charles arehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That seems a curious conclusion, Joe. The whole reason to use BlueDragon.NET 
> is when a shop DOES have a large existing infrastructure in CFML and yet 
> needs to perform tighter integration with .NET than is possible with CFMX.
>
> I realize you may be inferring the possibility of compatibility issues. I'd 
> just like to say for the record that as BlueDragon its 4th year of existence, 
> many of the early compatibility issues have been removed. We have plenty of 
> shops who find the move to BlueDragon to be quite painless, and especially 
> when weighed against whatever benefit they're seeking in the move.
>
> /charlie
>
> >"Easy" depends on how much existing infrastructure and investment in
> >Macr...err..Adobe CF products they have
> >
> >-Joe
> >
> >On 12/13/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
>
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RE: How can I use a .Net DLL with CFMX?

[Mark Fuqua]

Hey,

I don't know much about Blue Dragon, but I think your frustration is one of
the reasons why they decided to develope a CFML compiler for  .NET.  I am
sure there are lots of others, but surely close ties with the Windows OS was
one.

Mark

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:25 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: How can I use a .Net DLL with CFMX?


were looking for a similar solution, however cannot risk moving to BD (lots
of existing code needing to be re-tested etc)
Is there no neat way of using a dll without resorting to web services ?

Seems the extra overhead of TX/RX in a web service is redundant for using a
piece of code that may be on the same machine.






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RE: Javascript question

[Andrew Scott]

Very easy actually.



 Function showSubmit(element)
 {
   Element.style.visibility = show;
 }





Another way you could do this is have the button disabled, and then enable
the button once the required action is completed.


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Sent: Wednesday, 14 December 2005 5:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Javascript question

Quick qustion, I have a submit button I do not want to show until a user
clicks a button to calculate a total first on the same page. How do I do
this?


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Re: How can I use a .Net DLL with CFMX?

[Simon Smith]

were looking for a similar solution, however cannot risk moving to BD (lots of 
existing code needing to be re-tested etc)
Is there no neat way of using a dll without resorting to web services ? 

Seems the extra overhead of TX/RX in a web service is redundant for using a 
piece of code that may be on the same machine. 



> Dave, MySpace is not yet running entirely on BD, so the problems 
> you're seeing may just as well be code running on CF5, but failing 
> simply because the volume of traffic is absolutely staggering. 
> 
> MySpace is either the 3rd or 4th highest trafficed web site of all, 
> above google, (in terms of page views), depending on who you talk to 
> (see http://www.businessweek.
> com/technology/content/nov2005/tc20051115_908925.htm or http://news.
> designtechnica.com/article8875.html for samples). 
> 
> That it's working at all with such volumes on CF5 is impressive to 
> many (and I don't mean that as a slap, but we all know CFMX was 
> designed to address perceived scalability issues with CF5.)
> 
> But MySpace knew that the time would come when CF5 would no longer cut 
> it, and while they tried CFMX and passed on that, they were 
> considering a move to .NET (and pure ASP.NET), when they learned of us. 
> 
> 
> After testing last year showed that their code would not only work but 
> work better on BD.NET, they bought and started making the move. The 
> site is moving to BD by subsites (and across hundreds of servers each 
> time). It's a huge site, and they have lots of ongoing 
> responsibilities (always updating the site to appeal to their youthful 
> audience) that understandably can get in the way of that effort. 
> 
> As for the people, I frankly would never get into a discussion of 
> whether I thought one company's developers were "decent" or not. "Walk 
> a mile in a man's shoes first" seems apt. Most of us know that many 
> factors can influence the quality of code we have to support.
> 
> /charlie
> 
> > sorry charlie but not trying to be an ass but..
> > 
> > " We have plenty of shops who find the move to BlueDragon to be 
> quite 
> > painless "
> > like myspace..
> > Thats the one I measure BD by and to tell you the truth it seems 
> worse 
> > now then when it was on cf5 the error messages are a bit different 
> > they are becoming "cultish" kinda like ms's most famous BSOD.
> > 
> > Is it BD or do they not have enough money yet to pay for decent 
> > coders?
> > 
> > ~Dave the 
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