Re: Problem Installing New MX7 Instance

2006-03-26 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Rob Wilkerson wrote:
 Has anyone ever had any trouble installing an MX7 instance in
 multi-server configuration?  I have a developer machine:
 WinXP SP2
 CFMX7 Multi-server
 IIS 5.1 (if that matters)
 
 The machine is currently running 3 instances of MX7 and 1 instance of
 MX6.1 that is deployed as a war file.  I'm trying to create a new MX7
 instance and I keep getting the following error:
 
 ---
 There was a problem
 Message: The specified Directory attribute jrun install
 path\servers\cfusion\SERVER-INF\temp\cfusion-war-tmp\2E85BB04-CF1E-54BF-49FC34E6D9076CCB\cfusion.ear\cfusion.war\CFIDE\scripts
 cannot be deleted.
 Detail: You may not have permissions to delete this directory. The
 exception occurred during a cfdirectory action=delete.
 ---

Where do you get this error? In the CF administrator? Have you 
tried creating a new instance from the JRun administrator and 
then just copying another instance to it?

Jochem

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Re: Accessing the applications on a given server

2006-03-26 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Rich Ziade wrote:
 Is there a way - thru maybe an undocumented feature? - to access the
 different application scopes that may be running on a single instance of
 CFMX at the server level? 

http://tech.badpen.com/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=3

Jochem

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Re: Problem Installing New MX7 Instance

2006-03-26 Thread Rob Wilkerson
I get the error on step 3 of the instance creation and, no, I haven't
tried creating the new instance in any other manner.  I'm certainly
willing to try if you can share some destructions for doing so.

The key for my installations, though, is that each needs to operate
off of a separate jvm.config file so I have to create the service
manually.  This shouldn't be a problem no matter which way I create
the instance, but it's a little abnormal so I thought I'd put it out
there.

Thanks.

On 3/26/06, Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rob Wilkerson wrote:
  Has anyone ever had any trouble installing an MX7 instance in
  multi-server configuration?  I have a developer machine:
  WinXP SP2
  CFMX7 Multi-server
  IIS 5.1 (if that matters)
 
  The machine is currently running 3 instances of MX7 and 1 instance of
  MX6.1 that is deployed as a war file.  I'm trying to create a new MX7
  instance and I keep getting the following error:
 
  ---
  There was a problem
  Message: The specified Directory attribute jrun install
  path\servers\cfusion\SERVER-INF\temp\cfusion-war-tmp\2E85BB04-CF1E-54BF-49FC34E6D9076CCB\cfusion.ear\cfusion.war\CFIDE\scripts
  cannot be deleted.
  Detail: You may not have permissions to delete this directory. The
  exception occurred during a cfdirectory action=delete.
  ---

 Where do you get this error? In the CF administrator? Have you
 tried creating a new instance from the JRun administrator and
 then just copying another instance to it?

 Jochem

 

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Re: Problem Installing New MX7 Instance

2006-03-26 Thread Rob Wilkerson
Hey Jochem -

Again, thanks for providing a new direction.  I got into the JRun
admin and created a new instance, but am confused about what I see:
Both the JRun and CF Administrators recognize the new instance, but
the physical directory structure are very different.

My existing instance directories contain 2 subdirectories: cfusion.ear
and SERVER-INF.  My new instance, on the other hand has 2
subdirectories named default-ear and SERVER-INF.  I'm not quite sure
what to do at this point.

I remember taking these steps when creating multiple instances in MX
6.x, but that's been a long time now and I just don't remember the
details.  Seems like I had to do some moving and copying of physical
directory structures.

I appreciate any additional guidance you can provide.

On 3/26/06, Rob Wilkerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I get the error on step 3 of the instance creation and, no, I haven't
 tried creating the new instance in any other manner.  I'm certainly
 willing to try if you can share some destructions for doing so.

 The key for my installations, though, is that each needs to operate
 off of a separate jvm.config file so I have to create the service
 manually.  This shouldn't be a problem no matter which way I create
 the instance, but it's a little abnormal so I thought I'd put it out
 there.

 Thanks.

 On 3/26/06, Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Rob Wilkerson wrote:
   Has anyone ever had any trouble installing an MX7 instance in
   multi-server configuration?  I have a developer machine:
   WinXP SP2
   CFMX7 Multi-server
   IIS 5.1 (if that matters)
  
   The machine is currently running 3 instances of MX7 and 1 instance of
   MX6.1 that is deployed as a war file.  I'm trying to create a new MX7
   instance and I keep getting the following error:
  
   ---
   There was a problem
   Message: The specified Directory attribute jrun install
   path\servers\cfusion\SERVER-INF\temp\cfusion-war-tmp\2E85BB04-CF1E-54BF-49FC34E6D9076CCB\cfusion.ear\cfusion.war\CFIDE\scripts
   cannot be deleted.
   Detail: You may not have permissions to delete this directory. The
   exception occurred during a cfdirectory action=delete.
   ---
 
  Where do you get this error? In the CF administrator? Have you
  tried creating a new instance from the JRun administrator and
  then just copying another instance to it?
 
  Jochem
 
  

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Version control - how to?

2006-03-26 Thread Michel Deloux
Does anybody have any suggestions for somebody who's never used any source
control? We use DW8 as our primary IDE, CF 6.1 in dev/prod server.
Subversion is a good application? Works in WindowsXP and CF/IIS(without
Apache) with application server? Any example with this settings?

Cheers

MD


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Re: Problem Installing New MX7 Instance

2006-03-26 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Rob Wilkerson wrote:
 
 Again, thanks for providing a new direction.  I got into the JRun
 admin and created a new instance, but am confused about what I see:
 Both the JRun and CF Administrators recognize the new instance, but
 the physical directory structure are very different.
 
 My existing instance directories contain 2 subdirectories: cfusion.ear
 and SERVER-INF.  My new instance, on the other hand has 2
 subdirectories named default-ear and SERVER-INF.  I'm not quite sure
 what to do at this point.

1. Delete default-ear.
2. Copy cfusion-ear from another instance (without the CFML 
sources and the compiled files in cfclasses).
3. Register the new instance as a service:
jrunsvc -install instance -config path-to-jvm.config

Jochem

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Re: Problem Installing New MX7 Instance

2006-03-26 Thread Rob Wilkerson
Okay.  I figured that would be it, but before I screwed anything up I
thought I'd verify.  Once clarification, though...you mention without
the CFML sources.  Can you explain what you mean by that?

On 3/26/06, Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rob Wilkerson wrote:
 
  Again, thanks for providing a new direction.  I got into the JRun
  admin and created a new instance, but am confused about what I see:
  Both the JRun and CF Administrators recognize the new instance, but
  the physical directory structure are very different.
 
  My existing instance directories contain 2 subdirectories: cfusion.ear
  and SERVER-INF.  My new instance, on the other hand has 2
  subdirectories named default-ear and SERVER-INF.  I'm not quite sure
  what to do at this point.

 1. Delete default-ear.
 2. Copy cfusion-ear from another instance (without the CFML
 sources and the compiled files in cfclasses).
 3. Register the new instance as a service:
 jrunsvc -install instance -config path-to-jvm.config

 Jochem

 

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Re: Problem Installing New MX7 Instance

2006-03-26 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Rob Wilkerson wrote:
 Okay.  I figured that would be it, but before I screwed anything up I
 thought I'd verify.  Once clarification, though...you mention without
 the CFML sources.  Can you explain what you mean by that?

If you copy cfusion-war from an existing instance to a new 
instance you also copy all .cfm files that you have placed there. 
I presume you want to start the new instance from scratch, so 
without the applications you have deployed in the old instance.

Jochem

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Re: Problem Installing New MX7 Instance

2006-03-26 Thread Rob Wilkerson
I haven't added any cfm templates to the install directories so I
guess I'm okay on that front.  I'll copy the cfusion.ear file from one
of my other instances and clear the cfclasses directory and see how
that goes.

Thanks again.

On 3/26/06, Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rob Wilkerson wrote:
  Okay.  I figured that would be it, but before I screwed anything up I
  thought I'd verify.  Once clarification, though...you mention without
  the CFML sources.  Can you explain what you mean by that?

 If you copy cfusion-war from an existing instance to a new
 instance you also copy all .cfm files that you have placed there.
 I presume you want to start the new instance from scratch, so
 without the applications you have deployed in the old instance.

 Jochem

 

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RE: Version control - how to?

2006-03-26 Thread Eric J. Hoffman
We just ended up working with Seapine, but that comes at a cost, and
with that cost pretty awesome support.   But we went that way because we
also wanted an integrated defect system and a Quality Assurance system
with automated regression testing.  Additionally, we were completely
green in this area having only used DW8 and check in/out previously.  We
needed a little handholding and training.  

We worked with both CVSNT and Subversion before we made our choices.
Both are good for simple version control and all the fun that goes with
such systems.  Subversion is meant to replace CVS with more robust
features, but that tech is not as mature as the CVS. 

Almost all of the systems we saw had plugins to work natively in DW8 or
CFEclipse.  So its all about preferences.





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-Original Message-

From: Michel Deloux [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 11:09 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Version control - how to?

Does anybody have any suggestions for somebody who's never used any
source control? We use DW8 as our primary IDE, CF 6.1 in dev/prod
server.
Subversion is a good application? Works in WindowsXP and CF/IIS(without
Apache) with application server? Any example with this settings?

Cheers

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Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-26 Thread Adam Churvis
It doesn't work that way.  Since your CFLOGINUSER call is inside a CFLOGIN 
call, that CFLOGIN call *won't* run when the second server sees your 
authentication cookie because CFLOGIN only runs when you are *not* 
authenticated.
Respectfully,

Adam Phillip Churvis
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
BlueDragon Alliance Founding Committee



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  - Original Message - 
  From: wolf2k5 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:02 AM
  Subject: Re: cflogin and load balancing


  On 3/24/06, Adam Churvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   If I'm not mistaken, *authorization* (not authentication) can't work across 
multiple CF servers -- clustered or not -- because there's no mechanism for 
specifying *roles* on any computer other than the one on which CFLOGINUSER was 
executed.

  But if the cflogin cookie is there, the second server will
  automatically execute the cflogin/cfloginuser code, effectively
  re-logging in the user and re-assigning him the roles automatically.

  Besides the security concerns (username/password in the cookie), that
  can be somewhat mitigated using HTTPS, do you see any other issue with
  this?

  Thanks.

  

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Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-26 Thread Adam Churvis
And one more thing... SSL really doesn't matter because you're not going to use 
it everywhere on your site, only in some places, so everywhere else that 
doesn't use SSL is still exposed.

You should always use loginStorage=Session and combine this with a solid 
session syndication mechanism.  If you're running BlueDragon.NET then your best 
bet is ScaleOut StateServer.  The built-in freebie state server that comes with 
Windows craps out around three machines in most cases.
Respectfully,

Adam Phillip Churvis
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  - Original Message - 
  From: wolf2k5 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:02 AM
  Subject: Re: cflogin and load balancing


  On 3/24/06, Adam Churvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   If I'm not mistaken, *authorization* (not authentication) can't work across 
multiple CF servers -- clustered or not -- because there's no mechanism for 
specifying *roles* on any computer other than the one on which CFLOGINUSER was 
executed.

  But if the cflogin cookie is there, the second server will
  automatically execute the cflogin/cfloginuser code, effectively
  re-logging in the user and re-assigning him the roles automatically.

  Besides the security concerns (username/password in the cookie), that
  can be somewhat mitigated using HTTPS, do you see any other issue with
  this?

  Thanks.

  

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Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-26 Thread Adam Churvis
 And one more thing... SSL really doesn't matter because you're not going to 
 use it everywhere...

As in, SSL really doesn't matter with respect to your assumption that it 
somewhat mitigates the security concerns about cookie values being exposed.  
Of course SSL matters with respect to just about everything else. :)
Respectfully,

Adam Phillip Churvis
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Adam Churvis 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 1:18 PM
  Subject: Re: cflogin and load balancing


  And one more thing... SSL really doesn't matter because you're not going to 
use it everywhere on your site, only in some places, so everywhere else that 
doesn't use SSL is still exposed.

  You should always use loginStorage=Session and combine this with a solid 
session syndication mechanism.  If you're running BlueDragon.NET then your best 
bet is ScaleOut StateServer.  The built-in freebie state server that comes with 
Windows craps out around three machines in most cases.
  Respectfully,

  Adam Phillip Churvis
  Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
  BlueDragon Alliance Founding Committee



  Get advanced intensive Master-level training in
  C#  ASP.NET 2.0 for ColdFusion Developers at
  ProductivityEnhancement.com

- Original Message - 
From: wolf2k5 
To: CF-Talk 
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: cflogin and load balancing


On 3/24/06, Adam Churvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If I'm not mistaken, *authorization* (not authentication) can't work 
across multiple CF servers -- clustered or not -- because there's no mechanism 
for specifying *roles* on any computer other than the one on which CFLOGINUSER 
was executed.

But if the cflogin cookie is there, the second server will
automatically execute the cflogin/cfloginuser code, effectively
re-logging in the user and re-assigning him the roles automatically.

Besides the security concerns (username/password in the cookie), that
can be somewhat mitigated using HTTPS, do you see any other issue with
this?

Thanks.



  

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RE: Version control - how to?

2006-03-26 Thread Russ
We use subversion to manage a large codebase, and it has worked well so far.
We use it with the TourtoiseSVN, which integrates into windows explorer and
makes checking in/out and other source control features VERY easy.  We do
seem to be hitting a wall as far as figuring out how to do QA, and defect
tracking.  We might be installing TRAC or something similar for integrated
defect tracking, but I'm still looking for a good 3 tier deployment QA
solution.  For example:  

All the changes are done on the dev server (for most companies, it would be
their own workspace, but we're using a single dev server, since our codebase
is so large).  
Once the changes are tested on the dev server, they should be deployed to
the QA server. 
Once the changes have been QA'ed and approved, they are committed and
deployed to the production server. 

I can't seem to figure out how to do this kind of workflow with Subversion.
It doesn't look like there are any front end tools for it that allow for
this sort of thing. 

Are there other Source Control systems that allow for something like this?

Russ

 -Original Message-
 From: Michel Deloux [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 12:09 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Version control - how to?
 
 Does anybody have any suggestions for somebody who's never used any source
 control? We use DW8 as our primary IDE, CF 6.1 in dev/prod server.
 Subversion is a good application? Works in WindowsXP and CF/IIS(without
 Apache) with application server? Any example with this settings?
 
 Cheers
 
 MD
 
 
 

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Re: Version control - how to?

2006-03-26 Thread John Paul Ashenfelter
On 3/26/06, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We use subversion to manage a large codebase, and it has worked well so far.
 We use it with the TourtoiseSVN, which integrates into windows explorer and
 makes checking in/out and other source control features VERY easy.  We do
 seem to be hitting a wall as far as figuring out how to do QA, and defect
 tracking.  We might be installing TRAC or something similar for integrated
 defect tracking, but I'm still looking for a good 3 tier deployment QA
 solution.  For example:

 All the changes are done on the dev server (for most companies, it would be
 their own workspace, but we're using a single dev server, since our codebase
 is so large).

Ok, here you're all working in the trunk to use a standard SCC idiom.

 Once the changes are tested on the dev server, they should be deployed to
 the QA server.

Here you probably want to *tag* the changes, usually with a
bug-tracking report. Then you deploy the tagged version to QA. In SVN
you could use a post-commit hook to auto-deploy to QA when a new tag
is created or do it manually if you need to coordinate among many
people.

 Once the changes have been QA'ed and approved, they are committed and
 deployed to the production server.

Here you're tagging again, but as a release. You may or may not push
it to a branch, but it sounds like everything is changing so often
that there's no point to branching. There'd need to be a lot more
details to determine the right solution.


 I can't seem to figure out how to do this kind of workflow with Subversion.
 It doesn't look like there are any front end tools for it that allow for
 this sort of thing.

This is all about tagging, branching, and deployment. I'd recommend
the Pragmatic Programmer's book on Subversion to get started.

 Are there other Source Control systems that allow for something like this?

They all allow for it -- you just need to automate the process using
something like Ant or one of the higher-end Ant based tools (Antfarm,
CruiseControl, etc). There's more in the Pragmatic Programmer's book
on Project Automation.

plugCome see me at CFUnited -- agility, testing, and more./plug
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Re: Version control - how to?

2006-03-26 Thread John Paul Ashenfelter
On 3/26/06, Michel Deloux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does anybody have any suggestions for somebody who's never used any source
 control? We use DW8 as our primary IDE, CF 6.1 in dev/prod server.
 Subversion is a good application? Works in WindowsXP and CF/IIS(without
 Apache) with application server? Any example with this settings?

SVN is the defacto choice from the open source world. DW8 doesn't play
nice with anything that doesn't support the MS SCC API though, so that
limits your choices. There are commercial (and cheap $50/seat)
proxies for both SVN and CVS that make them look like a MS SCC
API-compatible application to tools like DW8 though.

I'd start by getting a good book on source control -- and would
suggest the pragmatic programmers SVN book.

 Cheers

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Re: Alagad Image CFC

2006-03-26 Thread Mark McArthey
Is it possible to use the Image CFC to perform a similar operation (the 
conversion).  I was also considering a command-line based 3rd party tool 
besides Photoshop.  I have a program that is freeware and works great 
(FastStone Image Viewer), but it doesn't have a command line function.

as far as i know the issue was never resolved but we did find that if
we opened the files up i photoshop and bounced between cmyk and back
to rgb and then saved for web that it resolved the issue.

i'd contact doug directly and see if your files don't add more insight
into the mystery.

jonese (aka erj)

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Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-26 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Adam Churvis wrote:
 It doesn't work that way.  Since your CFLOGINUSER call is inside a CFLOGIN 
 call, that CFLOGIN call *won't* run when the second server sees your 
 authentication cookie because CFLOGIN only runs when you are *not* 
 authenticated.

So what you do is assign one standard role to everyone. When the 
user is logged in but does not have that role assigned, you log 
him out and in again. Role assignments get executed again on the 
cfloginuser and the user gets his roles. Bit clumsy, but it works.

Jochem

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Re: cflogin and load balancing

2006-03-26 Thread Adam Churvis
Jochem,

IMHO, having to explicitly test faux credentials on every request and 
logout/login each time you hit a new server in the cluster is a kludge at best. 
 

And I don't mean this as a criticism of you at all -- I highly respect your 
work; it's a criticism of Macromedia/Adobe for letting this problem go on for 
so long.

Why doesn't Adobe just fix CFLOGIN?
Respectfully,

Adam Phillip Churvis
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
BlueDragon Alliance Founding Committee



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  - Original Message - 
  From: Jochem van Dieten 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 4:34 PM
  Subject: Re: cflogin and load balancing


  Adam Churvis wrote:
   It doesn't work that way.  Since your CFLOGINUSER call is inside a CFLOGIN 
call, that CFLOGIN call *won't* run when the second server sees your 
authentication cookie because CFLOGIN only runs when you are *not* 
authenticated.

  So what you do is assign one standard role to everyone. When the 
  user is logged in but does not have that role assigned, you log 
  him out and in again. Role assignments get executed again on the 
  cfloginuser and the user gets his roles. Bit clumsy, but it works.

  Jochem

  

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Re: Problem Installing New MX7 Instance

2006-03-26 Thread Rob Wilkerson
For the record, and for anyone who may have been following this
thread, this solution appears to have worked perfectly.  I'll know
more as I have more opportunity to work in the new environment, but
everything looks great for now.

Thanks very much, Jochem.  I had gotten so frustrated that I forgot
all about the old way.  I really appreciate your help.

On 3/26/06, Rob Wilkerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I haven't added any cfm templates to the install directories so I
 guess I'm okay on that front.  I'll copy the cfusion.ear file from one
 of my other instances and clear the cfclasses directory and see how
 that goes.

 Thanks again.

 On 3/26/06, Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Rob Wilkerson wrote:
   Okay.  I figured that would be it, but before I screwed anything up I
   thought I'd verify.  Once clarification, though...you mention without
   the CFML sources.  Can you explain what you mean by that?
 
  If you copy cfusion-war from an existing instance to a new
  instance you also copy all .cfm files that you have placed there.
  I presume you want to start the new instance from scratch, so
  without the applications you have deployed in the old instance.
 
  Jochem
 
  

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