Re: An effort to make cold fusion 8 standard edition more efficie nt
Congrats on quitting smoking. Keep it up for another week and we will get you a cake :-) I agree, my experience with the CFAJAX stuff is that it is a great start but has a couple of more iterations to go. I have been using the EXT 2.0 stuff along with jQuery and it has been really really nice. I have control over when I load the JS files and how they are cached. That brings up another point that I haven't heard and that is using massive caching on your JS files. One thing I have seems some sites do is cache the their JS and CSS assets for eternity and just use some sort of version number on the end of them. Basically it goes like this... Apache and IIS are instructed to aches the assets for a REAY long time then you do this in your code: cfset application.assetVersion = 2342352362 script src=/assets/js/sitejsfile.js?#application.assetVersion# / script src=/assets/css/style.css?#application.assetVersion# / If you ever happen to change your asset files up the assetVersion by 1 and the browsers will recache all the assets. I think in the end this will speed up your application and not have to worry about the load time on every page for something that really doesn't change all that often. J.J. On 2/29/08, Cutter (CFRelated) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, I'm going to try to be nice here. I'm quitting smoking right now, so if I seem snappy try not to take it personally. Adobe has given us tools, within CF, to do things that most backend, server-side developers never (or rarely) get into. It made them dead simple, used the best and most professional third party libraries available (in my opinion), and set it up so anyone could do it. If your application is too slow for you, or your client, and your not willing to put in the extra work to make it better, by rolling your own solution, then that isn't the fault of Adobe. I apologize for being blunt, but most ColdFusion developers, past the beginner level, rarely if ever use cfform, and haven't for years. It was made for really rapid prototyping, small projects with no budget or time, and developers who can't (or wouldn't) write their own custom form validation, and has never been ideal. (Again, my opinion) Now, with these new CF8 Ajax components, developers are using cfform again, to get the fancy grids and auto-suggest. More advanced applications require 'beyond the basics' functionality of these controls, and developers have to learn the underlying libraries to build those applications. Ext isn't that hard, and you probably could have rewritten the majority of your application in the time that this thread has been going on. You would have already optimized the code for better browser performance. Also keep in mind that the average user will not have caching disabled on their browser (like developers do), and the perceived performance of these components will be much higher to them, after the initial page load, because all of the assets will be resident in their browser cache. Steve Cutter Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Don L wrote: Dave, Rick, Russ, John and Gerald, Thank you all for your thoughts. To Gerald, you were probably referring to IIS6. My opinion still is, if feasible, the best option is, not to have/load unnecessary heavy-duty javascripts in the first place, and to make things/features more configurable by design. In the case of cf8's integration with FukEditor, as some else has alluded on a separate thread before, it seemed to have been added in a rush, a reputable company should not do something like that to its flagship product... No, this is not Alice in Wonderland, it's called business ethics. Don Actually configuring compression is easy in IIS. It has a GUI for this as well. It took me about 5 min to figure it out and implement. What is difficult is per domain/web site compression. IIS does it for all domains hosted on the box. If you want more granular control you will need HttpZip's Port80. I am going off of a 4 year old memory so maybe things are different, probably not though. IIS's compression is rather impressive. I had a pricing matrix for pricing out screen print t shirts on the fly. The page (mostly javascript) was ~500K. ISS took it down to something like 30-40k. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 1:11 AM, John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300237 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe:
Difference between CFAjax and mxAjax
Hi: Is there any difference between these two ajax frameworks for CF? Thanks Benign ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300238 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Help with Rewrite Rule! (circuit.fuseaction)
Can you show me an example to demonstrate what you mean? I don't know much about writing RewriteRules or regular expressions. Regards, cfcoder Would using the end of string character ($) help with limiting things? Adrian I already tried that. This is the order: RewriteRule /offers/books/([a-zA-Z0-9.-]+)(.*) /index.cfm?go=offers\.$1 [PT] RewriteRule /offers(/books/.*) /index.cfm?go=offers.detailsbookid=${mapfile:$1} I can browse this page (it's working): http://mysite/offers/books/all but when I try to browse this page: http://mysite/offers/books/Harry-Potter I get an error which states: This is the template ../fuseboxShared/ErrorTemplates/fusebox.undefinedFuseaction.cfm An Error of type fusebox.undefinedFuseaction has occurred undefined Fuseaction You specified a Fuseaction of Harry-Potter which is not defined in Circuit books. The first rule is getting executed and this is what's causing the error. Any ideas? Put the RewriteRule for books.all first. Russ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300239 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: TIGER/Line
Graham Pearson wrote: Has anyone worked with the TIGER/Line Data in Coldfusion. I am trying to i would suggest moving to a spatial capable DB like postGIS instead. TIGER data is monstrous in size complexity. this isn't going to be fun. if i'm not mistaken, doesn't geocoder have an API/web service? if it doesn't, there are plenty of others that do. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300240 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Difference between CFAjax and mxAjax
Yes. CFAJAX is no longer maintained and used a port of a Java Library, DWR, for data exchange. mxAjax employs popular libraries like Prototype, Scriptaculous, JSON and some other bits and allows CFCs to be used. It has more features and, most importantly, Arjun is still maintaining it. If you are trying to choose between them, mxAjax is definitely the way to go. On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: Is there any difference between these two ajax frameworks for CF? Thanks Benign -- mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300241 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Difference between CFAjax and mxAjax
What about other Ajax frameworkds? Which one is the easiest? Thanks On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 4:11 PM, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. CFAJAX is no longer maintained and used a port of a Java Library, DWR, for data exchange. mxAjax employs popular libraries like Prototype, Scriptaculous, JSON and some other bits and allows CFCs to be used. It has more features and, most importantly, Arjun is still maintaining it. If you are trying to choose between them, mxAjax is definitely the way to go. On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: Is there any difference between these two ajax frameworks for CF? Thanks Benign -- mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300242 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: TIGER/Line
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Blog entry that I am trying to follow is located http://blog.tooleshed.com/?p=16. My ultimate goal is to duplicate this under Coldfusion. Right now I have the 2006 Second Edition 3 GB of Tiger/Line Data downloaded from the Census Bureau and will be importing the data into MySQL this weekend. ~From the Blog entry I have recreated the php files for a working copy before I work on rewriting it for Coldfusion but in the geocode.php file I am getting an error in function calc_position with the line that reads: for ($i=0; $i What all of this Data and PHP Scripts do is take a US Address and Calculates the Latitude/Longitude so a person can utilize this information. This would be one section of my newest project for K-12 School Corporations and Local Businesses however until March 14th I am not going to release any details. Ian Skinner wrote: | Graham Pearson wrote: | -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | Hash: SHA1 | | Has anyone worked with the TIGER/Line Data in Coldfusion. | No I have not but I would love to ease drop on the conversation. You | may get slightly broader help if you just bring up what the actual PHP | code does that you can't do in ColdFusion. Somebody who has no idea | about TIGER data may still be able to help you translate the PHP. | | | | ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300243 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Best WYGIWYG Browser based html text editors for Coldfusion
Hi: I searched for an html editor for my site and found pleny. But none were specificly designed for CF and I need to use your experience to choose the right one. I saw FCKeditor and it claimes to be the best. But I wonder if there is a better one JUST FOR CF or not? I mean an HTML editor that has some features for CF that others don't. Or works better for CF. Thanks Benign ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300244 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Best WYGIWYG Browser based html text editors for Coldfusion
All of these HTML editors are client side technology and will work essentially independently of the serverside tech. The only wysiwyg editor that you could really say is for CF only is the FCK based one that comes in CF8, since you can bring it up with a CF tag. If you want to know about file upload integration with the editors, try CFFM (which has FCK and TinyMCE integration). On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: I searched for an html editor for my site and found pleny. But none were specificly designed for CF and I need to use your experience to choose the right one. I saw FCKeditor and it claimes to be the best. But I wonder if there is a better one JUST FOR CF or not? I mean an HTML editor that has some features for CF that others don't. Or works better for CF. Thanks Benign ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300245 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Best WYGIWYG Browser based html text editors for Coldfusion
As a matter of fact I don't need file upload right now. All I need is simple text editor that I can install fast and easily on my application that the admin can inserts some articles with the propper format in the database. I deosn't really need advanced options. I checked FCK. It looks very great but has more options than I need and I worry the admin panel users get confused by so many options there and try to insert images. I use html FROM tags and not CFFORM tags so cftextarea tag of CF8 is not what I can use. Please help me find a one which meets my limited needs of a very basic text editor that insers data into a database column containing the formating data.It is very important for me that I choose the easy one cause there are many textareas that I need to change to have text editing areas and a hard one to set will be take a long time. Thanks in advanced Ali On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 5:47 PM, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All of these HTML editors are client side technology and will work essentially independently of the serverside tech. The only wysiwyg editor that you could really say is for CF only is the FCK based one that comes in CF8, since you can bring it up with a CF tag. If you want to know about file upload integration with the editors, try CFFM (which has FCK and TinyMCE integration). On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: I searched for an html editor for my site and found pleny. But none were specificly designed for CF and I need to use your experience to choose the right one. I saw FCKeditor and it claimes to be the best. But I wonder if there is a better one JUST FOR CF or not? I mean an HTML editor that has some features for CF that others don't. Or works better for CF. Thanks Benign ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300246 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Best WYGIWYG Browser based html text editors for Coldfusion
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I checked FCK. It looks very great but has more options than I need and I worry the admin panel users get confused by so many options there and try to insert images. FCK Editor is easily customizable (at least if you add it to your page manually, as opposed to using the CF8 tags). You can specify by configuration what options are and are not available to your users. Check out the FCK docs. -- Thanks, Tom Tom McNeer MediumCool http://www.mediumcool.com 1735 Johnson Road NE Atlanta, GA 30306 404.589.0560 ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300247 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Best WYGIWYG Browser based html text editors for Coldfusion
I will do surely. Thanks Ali On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Tom McNeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I checked FCK. It looks very great but has more options than I need and I worry the admin panel users get confused by so many options there and try to insert images. FCK Editor is easily customizable (at least if you add it to your page manually, as opposed to using the CF8 tags). You can specify by configuration what options are and are not available to your users. Check out the FCK docs. -- Thanks, Tom Tom McNeer MediumCool http://www.mediumcool.com 1735 Johnson Road NE Atlanta, GA 30306 404.589.0560 ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300248 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: An effort to make cold fusion 8 standard edition more efficie nt
Have you seriously looked at what Ext offers? What's Ext ? -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300249 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Best WYGIWYG Browser based html text editors for Coldfusion
I saw FCKeditor and it claimes to be the best. And it is probably the best, but that's the problem: it is far too best to be used by low end users. IMHO. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300250 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Best WYGIWYG Browser based html text editors for Coldfusion
Okay. Just another question. Is FCK free? I saw purchase option in it's website! What is that all about? Thanks Ali On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw FCKeditor and it claimes to be the best. And it is probably the best, but that's the problem: it is far too best to be used by low end users. IMHO. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300251 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: An effort to make cold fusion 8 standard edition more efficie nt
What's Ext ? It's a tractor. On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you seriously looked at what Ext offers? What's Ext ? -- I get up every morning determined to both change the world and have one hell of a good time. Sometimes this makes planning my day difficult. - E. B. White ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300252 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Best WYGIWYG Browser based html text editors for Coldfusion
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay. Just another question. Is FCK free? I saw purchase option in it's website! What is that all about? Thanks Ali On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw FCKeditor and it claimes to be the best. And it is probably the best, but that's the problem: it is far too best to be used by low end users. IMHO. What about TinyMCE? Is that a good option for low end users? Thanks Ali ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300253 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
CF8 cfinput - autosuggest
I'm using augosuggest for an auto complete in CF8. Is there a way to force the user to make a selection from the autosuggest list? I had thought so, but can't find anything on it. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300254 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Difference between CFAjax and mxAjax
There was/is a version of CFAjax that does not use the DWR but instead jQuery. But I'd have to agree that it is not maintained or at least I do not get the impression it is. I have been using the one with jQuery for a couple months now without issue but anytime I have a question specific to the CFAjax piece, I do not get the feeling that help is easily found out there. On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 6:41 AM, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. CFAJAX is no longer maintained and used a port of a Java Library, DWR, for data exchange. mxAjax employs popular libraries like Prototype, Scriptaculous, JSON and some other bits and allows CFCs to be used. It has more features and, most importantly, Arjun is still maintaining it. If you are trying to choose between them, mxAjax is definitely the way to go. On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: Is there any difference between these two ajax frameworks for CF? Thanks Benign -- mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300255 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: BlueDragon Fee Server - LocalHost Only?
Hi Matthew You could of course use Railo, which in the Community Version is free and has no restrictions in use. It doesn't matter if it's commercial or not. Just give it a try. Gert Greetings from Switzerland Gert Franz Railo Technologies GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.railo.ch Join our Mailing List german: http://de.groups.yahoo.com/group/railo/ english: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/railo_talk/ Matthew Reinbold schrieb: Is the free version of the BlueDragon server local ip only? No. BlueDragon 7 Server is free for multiuser applications. Really? I've having a dickens of a time connecting to it from another computer. I've got Smith set up on port 8081. My laptop is assigned a local subnet address of 192.168.0.5 and I can pull up pages in the Smith web root from other machines on the local subnet but going to http://192.168.0.5:8081/insert page here. I installed BlueDragon Server 7 on port 8082. I can pull pages from the laptop itself (localhost or 127.0.0.1) but if I try to use http://192.168.0.5:8082/insert page here from another machine on the local area network the page times out. Running netstat -an from a windows command line shows that while the port is in use locally there isn't an entry for the inbound computer. Could it have something to do with the default security under the bluedragon admin? It's defaulted to allow ips: '*.*.*.*' - maybe because there isn't an allowed ':*' at the end it ignores all traffic to a certain port? I tried updating it with a : and a port number but upon submit it just reverts back to '*.*.*.*'. Pinging that port from a computer on the subnet also doesn't work. Is there any other way to sniff around and see if anyone is listening where they should be? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300256 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
email encryption
Hi, we have a page where we add new users to our software. before it adds them to the database it generates a random password for them, then we want it to send them that password via an encrypted email. is this is the best way to do it, and if so then can you tell us how to encrypt an email please. i can send an email fine but encrypting it is a different story. we have to generate them a random password, as we generate the accounts whilst the new users are not with us, and by emailing it to them it ensures that we don't see their password. appreciate your thoughts and advice thanks richard ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300257 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: An effort to make cold fusion 8 standard edition more efficie nt
(Again, my opinion) Now, with these new CF8 Ajax components, developers are using cfform again, to get the fancy grids and auto-suggest. Right on. Ajax is BIG deal, also, I love ColdFusion, and I don't want people to get wrong idea... Ok, I've cracked some core text editing js code, now, here's some quick comparison with FckEditor: without fckeditor (using ff2's YSlow as a benchmark tool) browser data load size 700k, time taken 2 seconds. with fckeditor, size 1330k, time taken 8 seconds. The thing, that is great about Fckeditor is that it has WYSIWYG feature... it's important, I'll either provide that or go for existing one that has this feature... Thanks. P.S. While many are constructive on this thread one or two are plainly annoying... oh well... Don, I'm going to try to be nice here. I'm quitting smoking right now, so if I seem snappy try not to take it personally. Adobe has given us tools, within CF, to do things that most backend, server-side developers never (or rarely) get into. It made them dead simple, used the best and most professional third party libraries available (in my opinion), and set it up so anyone could do it. If your application is too slow for you, or your client, and your not willing to put in the extra work to make it better, by rolling your own solution, then that isn't the fault of Adobe. I apologize for being blunt, but most ColdFusion developers, past the beginner level, rarely if ever use cfform, and haven't for years. It was made for really rapid prototyping, small projects with no budget or time, and developers who can't (or wouldn't) write their own custom form validation, and has never been ideal. (Again, my opinion) Now, with these new CF8 Ajax components, developers are using cfform again, to get the fancy grids and auto-suggest. More advanced applications require 'beyond the basics' functionality of these controls, and developers have to learn the underlying libraries to build those applications. Ext isn't that hard, and you probably could have rewritten the majority of your application in the time that this thread has been going on. You would have already optimized the code for better browser performance. Also keep in mind that the average user will not have caching disabled on their browser (like developers do), and the perceived performance of these components will be much higher to them, after the initial page load, because all of the assets will be resident in their browser cache. Steve Cutter Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com D ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300258 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF8 cfinput - autosuggest
Yes. Use a select box. :) If you think about it force and suggest are mutually exclusive. On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Jeff U [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using augosuggest for an auto complete in CF8. Is there a way to force the user to make a selection from the autosuggest list? I had thought so, but can't find anything on it. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300259 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Best WYGIWYG Browser based html text editors for Coldfusion
Off the top of my head That is for a commercial license. Some ppl and companies require that for legal and support reasons. BTW you can use CFFM - Coldfusion File Manager with FCK. I have used it before. It works fairly well. http://www.opensourcecf.com/cffm/ Last time is used was 2-3 years ago. If I remember correctly it took a while to fire up. Nothing major just some lag time. You might want to see if you can instantiate it once and keep it in the application scope so you don't have tio re-instantiate it every time you use it. On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay. Just another question. Is FCK free? I saw purchase option in it's website! What is that all about? Thanks Ali On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw FCKeditor and it claimes to be the best. And it is probably the best, but that's the problem: it is far too best to be used by low end users. IMHO. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300260 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
How to get Client IP address while using IIS X-Forward-For ISAPI Filter on F5 BIG-IP
We are using F5 BIG-IP hardware for loadbalancing with IIS X-Forward-For ISAPI Filter to get the Client IP address in the IIS loggings. This works fine. But at the moment we can't get to the client IP in the ColdFusion code (at least not through any available CGI variables). Please advice. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300261 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Difference between CFAjax and mxAjax
BTW those are not the only players. The are a bunch of ports of various AJAX libraries and techniques to CF. EXT seems to be rather popular. Go to Riaforge.org and search for EXT, YUI, Jquery etc. Keep in mind that a lot of this stuff is brand spanking new. I know that I have used AjaxCFC. It is a wrapper for JS calls to the server. I am happy with that. http://www.robgonda.com/blog/projects/ajaxcfc/ http://ajaxcfc.riaforge.org/ On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:57 AM, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about other Ajax frameworkds? Which one is the easiest? Thanks On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 4:11 PM, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. CFAJAX is no longer maintained and used a port of a Java Library, DWR, for data exchange. mxAjax employs popular libraries like Prototype, Scriptaculous, JSON and some other bits and allows CFCs to be used. It has more features and, most importantly, Arjun is still maintaining it. If you are trying to choose between them, mxAjax is definitely the way to go. On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: Is there any difference between these two ajax frameworks for CF? Thanks Benign -- mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300262 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF8 cfinput - autosuggest
I want to avoid a select box because the autosuggest list could become a bit long. Any other ideas on forceing a user to select an option from the autosuggest list?? Pretend the list is 1,000 entries long.. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300263 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Difference between CFAjax and mxAjax
Let me finish... I must have hit the Gmail short cut key for send. I know that a couple of the EXT ports are just a few weeks old so you mileage will vary until they come out of alpha/beta. The Libraries themselves are fairly mature with a couple in v. 2.x. Easy? My limited experience with YUI, Jquery, EXT etc. has been positive. They are all about the same with Jquery having an edge on ease of use. They are not nearly as difficult to use as coding raw JS IMO. If you are looking to level out the learning curve a bit I would recommend finding the Eclipse or DW plugins for code assist and inline help with these libraries. I strongly recommend Aptana when working with JS/Ajax. I hope this helps. On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Gerald Guido [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW those are not the only players. The are a bunch of ports of various AJAX libraries and techniques to CF. EXT seems to be rather popular. Go to Riaforge.org and search for EXT, YUI, Jquery etc. Keep in mind that a lot of this stuff is brand spanking new. I know that I have used AjaxCFC. It is a wrapper for JS calls to the server. I am happy with that. http://www.robgonda.com/blog/projects/ajaxcfc/ http://ajaxcfc.riaforge.org/ On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:57 AM, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about other Ajax frameworkds? Which one is the easiest? Thanks On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 4:11 PM, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. CFAJAX is no longer maintained and used a port of a Java Library, DWR, for data exchange. mxAjax employs popular libraries like Prototype, Scriptaculous, JSON and some other bits and allows CFCs to be used. It has more features and, most importantly, Arjun is still maintaining it. If you are trying to choose between them, mxAjax is definitely the way to go. On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: Is there any difference between these two ajax frameworks for CF? Thanks Benign -- mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300264 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF8 cfinput - autosuggest
Pretend the list is 1,000 entries long.. A. I see. Not with out writting some sort of error checking. And given 1000 items client side error checking could bog down the broswer significantly. You would probably want to validate it against the server using an Ajax call. I can see that getting really messy. Another thought is to have the input box populate a drop down. Kinda like RIAForge.org does with its search except have it populate the select box. On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Jeff U [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to avoid a select box because the autosuggest list could become a bit long. Any other ideas on forceing a user to select an option from the autosuggest list?? Pretend the list is 1,000 entries long.. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300265 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF8 cfinput - autosuggest
Now that I think about it, you can get close to it it with EXT. Look at the unobtrusive example. Perhaps you can get the drop down items on the fly. http://extjs.com/deploy/ext/examples/form/combos.html *Unobtrusive* On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Jeff U [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to avoid a select box because the autosuggest list could become a bit long. Any other ideas on forceing a user to select an option from the autosuggest list?? Pretend the list is 1,000 entries long.. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300266 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
CF8 autosuggest automatically filters again?
I have a CF8 autosuggest setup for selecting a user on a form. The input tag is: cfinput type=text name=sendto autosuggest=cfc:ajax.getAddressBook({cfautosuggestvalue}) And the query inside the getAddressBook() method looks like this: cfquery name=qryClients datasource=mydsn SELECT first, last, email FROM clients WHERE first LIKE cfqueryparam value=#Arguments.autosuggestvalue#% cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR OR last LIKE cfqueryparam value=#Arguments.autosuggestvalue#% cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR OR email LIKE cfqueryparam value=#Arguments.autosuggestvalue#% cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR /cfquery I then return an array whose entries look like #first# #last# #email#. This returns users whose first name, last name, or email address starts with the text the user has entered in the form field. I've called it via URL and its returning the correct results. If I give it Smi for an autosuggestvalue, it returns Joe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]. But the auto suggest values shown on the form are only the ones with a *first name* starting with the auto suggest value. Its as if the CF code on the client is further filtering the results returned from the CFC. I didn't see anything in the docs about the client side auto filtering, but it looks it is doing just that??? -Ryan ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300267 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Best WYGIWYG Browser based html text editors for Coldfusion
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 12:56 AM, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about TinyMCE? Is that a good option for low end users? In my experience, TinyMCE has much better support for cleaning up markup pasted from Word. Other than that it's really personal preference. Try them out and see what you prefer. -- Kay Smoljak business: www.cleverstarfish.com standards: kay.zombiecoder.com coldfusion: kay.smoljak.com personal: goatlady.wordpress.com ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300268 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: email encryption
Being the author what's to say you didn't look at it before it was encrypted? It just seems like overkill to me and pointless... but if you wanted to encrypt it then the end users would need to decrypt it... so they would need a decryption key... which they would of course get from you... and again their only guarantee that you didn't look at it is your word. ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Richard White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 1:46 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: email encryption Hi, we have a page where we add new users to our software. before it adds them to the database it generates a random password for them, then we want it to send them that password via an encrypted email. is this is the best way to do it, and if so then can you tell us how to encrypt an email please. i can send an email fine but encrypting it is a different story. we have to generate them a random password, as we generate the accounts whilst the new users are not with us, and by emailing it to them it ensures that we don't see their password. appreciate your thoughts and advice thanks richard ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300269 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
re: email encryption
You would have to cfexecute to something like pgp or gpg. But first the end user would need to install software, generate public/private keys and give you the public key. Not a very viable solution. How about instead of generating the password at the time of account creation, leave it NULL, and in the initial email give them a link to access the a page on the over SSL. Once they click on the link, generate the password for them and display it on the SSL-protected page. -Ryan Original Message From: Richard White [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 12:58 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: email encryption Hi, we have a page where we add new users to our software. before it adds them to the database it generates a random password for them, then we want it to send them that password via an encrypted email. is this is the best way to do it, and if so then can you tell us how to encrypt an email please. i can send an email fine but encrypting it is a different story. we have to generate them a random password, as we generate the accounts whilst the new users are not with us, and by emailing it to them it ensures that we don't see their password. appreciate your thoughts and advice thanks richard ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300270 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Difference between CFAjax and mxAjax
On 3/1/08, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: Is there any difference between these two ajax frameworks for CF? cfajax is unsupported, not maintained, and the most recent version has significant security flaws and doesn't work with safari. Don't use it. -- Rick Root New Brian Vander Ark Album, songs in the music player and cool behind the scenes video at www.myspace.com/brianvanderark ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300271 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: email encryption
we have a page where we add new users to our software. before it adds them to the database it generates a random password for them, then we want it to send them that password via an encrypted email. is this is the best way to do it, and if so then can you tell us how to encrypt an email please. i can send an email fine but encrypting it is a different story. we have to generate them a random password, as we generate the accounts whilst the new users are not with us, and by emailing it to them it ensures that we don't see their password. Encryption provides no guarantee that you don't see their passwsord. It can only prevent third parties from seeing their password. There are no standard mechanisms for encrypting email that will work for your users without a significant amount of installation and configuration on the users' computers. I recommend that you not worry about encryption. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Training: Adobe/Google/Paperthin Certified Partners http://training.figleaf.com/ WebManiacs 2008: the ultimate conference for CF/Flex/AIR developers! http://www.webmaniacsconference.com/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300272 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: How to get Client IP address while using IIS X-Forward-For IS API Filter on F5 BIG-IP
We are using F5 BIG-IP hardware for loadbalancing with IIS X-Forward-For ISAPI Filter to get the Client IP address in the IIS loggings. This works fine. But at the moment we can't get to the client IP in the ColdFusion code (at least not through any available CGI variables). You may need to ensure that the ISAPI filter loads before CF's own ISAPI filter. But, frankly, any injected HTTP request headers should just be there in the CGI scope. You shouldn't need an extra ISAPI filter for that. In fact, you might even try disabling the ISAPI filter. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Training: Adobe/Google/Paperthin Certified Partners http://training.figleaf.com/ WebManiacs 2008: the ultimate conference for CF/Flex/AIR developers! http://www.webmaniacsconference.com/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300273 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: email encryption
i would not worry about encrypting the emails either. there is a good reason why almost nobody does this :) a possible alternative may be: - you automatically generate a password and make it time-limited, i.e. it expires within 2 hours; - you email your user the generated password with instructions on how to change it and warning about the time limit; - you hash the generated password and store only the hash in your db; - the user must log in with automatically generated password within the time limit and change the password - you hash and store the new password in the db; the user must still trust you not to 'snoop' on what they type into the password form fields, but with the hash being a one-way encryption at least the user can know that nobody else can see their password even if they can access the database... what do you think of that? Azadi Saryev Sabai-dee.com http://www.sabai-dee.com/ Richard White wrote: Hi, we have a page where we add new users to our software. before it adds them to the database it generates a random password for them, then we want it to send them that password via an encrypted email. is this is the best way to do it, and if so then can you tell us how to encrypt an email please. i can send an email fine but encrypting it is a different story. we have to generate them a random password, as we generate the accounts whilst the new users are not with us, and by emailing it to them it ensures that we don't see their password. appreciate your thoughts and advice thanks richard ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:300274 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4