RE: I think I'm confused...
Rick, Put a pound sign in front of the entry #127.0.0.1 x Close your browsers The open a command prompt and flush your local DNS cahce .. C:\>ipconfig /flushdns Then ping the domain... should see a live address returned from your DNS server. -mark Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 Skype: markakruger www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:25 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: I think I'm confused... Good idea. After modifying the hosts file to an actual domain I also have on my server, I realized that when I open the domain in a browser, I get the local version of the site, as I should. But, how then do I get back to the server version of the site? Do I have to take the domain back out of the local hosts file? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 10:10 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: I think I'm confused... Here's another tip on this (cause I have to open my hosts file 20 times a week). Drag the hosts file to the desktop with the left mouse and choose "create short cut". Then right-click on the short cut and choose "properties" Change the "target" from C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts To... Notepad.exe "C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts" Then you can open and edit it willy nilly... -mark Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 Skype: markakruger www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Jason Durham [mailto:jqdur...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:02 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: I think I'm confused... Run Notepad.exe as Administrator Open C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts (no file extension) Add "127.0.0.1 www.mydomain.com" to the last line Open web server and configure to route by hostname "www.mydomain.com" Windows (by default) looks to your hosts file for name resolution before checking a DNS server. I do something like this for all of my dev sites. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 23, 2011, at 8:52 PM, "Rick Faircloth" wrote: > > I've started working on an MSOC application > and was setting up some test code which uses > the cgi.server_name as the determining value > for setting all the specific site variables. > > Then, I realized that this wouldn't work for > local development using "http://localhost"; because > there would be not cgi.server_name (except localhost) > to reference in the browser. > > I guess I can set up a domain in the database > for "localhost" and treat that the same way I would > treat a regular domain, but I wouldn't be able to > switch between various sites locally that way. > > Is an MSOC app testable for various domains only > on a server, where DNS is running, as opposed to locally? > > (There is probably a simple solution for this, but > I've been reading and thinking about this so much > I "can't see the forest for the trees!" > > ??? > > Rick > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342549 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: I think I'm confused...
If you run into any issues after modding the hosts file, try closing your browser and opening up a DOS window, type in ipconfig /flushdns then open the browser and try again...that clears the dns cache and reloads it with fresh data when you open your browser. -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 21:25 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: I think I'm confused... Good idea. After modifying the hosts file to an actual domain I also have on my server, I realized that when I open the domain in a browser, I get the local version of the site, as I should. But, how then do I get back to the server version of the site? Do I have to take the domain back out of the local hosts file? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 10:10 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: I think I'm confused... Here's another tip on this (cause I have to open my hosts file 20 times a week). Drag the hosts file to the desktop with the left mouse and choose "create short cut". Then right-click on the short cut and choose "properties" Change the "target" from C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts To... Notepad.exe "C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts" Then you can open and edit it willy nilly... -mark Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 Skype: markakruger www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Jason Durham [mailto:jqdur...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:02 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: I think I'm confused... Run Notepad.exe as Administrator Open C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts (no file extension) Add "127.0.0.1 www.mydomain.com" to the last line Open web server and configure to route by hostname "www.mydomain.com" Windows (by default) looks to your hosts file for name resolution before checking a DNS server. I do something like this for all of my dev sites. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 23, 2011, at 8:52 PM, "Rick Faircloth" wrote: > > I've started working on an MSOC application > and was setting up some test code which uses > the cgi.server_name as the determining value > for setting all the specific site variables. > > Then, I realized that this wouldn't work for > local development using "http://localhost"; because > there would be not cgi.server_name (except localhost) > to reference in the browser. > > I guess I can set up a domain in the database > for "localhost" and treat that the same way I would > treat a regular domain, but I wouldn't be able to > switch between various sites locally that way. > > Is an MSOC app testable for various domains only > on a server, where DNS is running, as opposed to locally? > > (There is probably a simple solution for this, but > I've been reading and thinking about this so much > I "can't see the forest for the trees!" > > ??? > > Rick > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342548 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: I think I'm confused...
Good idea. After modifying the hosts file to an actual domain I also have on my server, I realized that when I open the domain in a browser, I get the local version of the site, as I should. But, how then do I get back to the server version of the site? Do I have to take the domain back out of the local hosts file? -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 10:10 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: I think I'm confused... Here's another tip on this (cause I have to open my hosts file 20 times a week). Drag the hosts file to the desktop with the left mouse and choose "create short cut". Then right-click on the short cut and choose "properties" Change the "target" from C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts To... Notepad.exe "C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts" Then you can open and edit it willy nilly... -mark Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 Skype: markakruger www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Jason Durham [mailto:jqdur...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:02 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: I think I'm confused... Run Notepad.exe as Administrator Open C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts (no file extension) Add "127.0.0.1 www.mydomain.com" to the last line Open web server and configure to route by hostname "www.mydomain.com" Windows (by default) looks to your hosts file for name resolution before checking a DNS server. I do something like this for all of my dev sites. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 23, 2011, at 8:52 PM, "Rick Faircloth" wrote: > > I've started working on an MSOC application > and was setting up some test code which uses > the cgi.server_name as the determining value > for setting all the specific site variables. > > Then, I realized that this wouldn't work for > local development using "http://localhost"; because > there would be not cgi.server_name (except localhost) > to reference in the browser. > > I guess I can set up a domain in the database > for "localhost" and treat that the same way I would > treat a regular domain, but I wouldn't be able to > switch between various sites locally that way. > > Is an MSOC app testable for various domains only > on a server, where DNS is running, as opposed to locally? > > (There is probably a simple solution for this, but > I've been reading and thinking about this so much > I "can't see the forest for the trees!" > > ??? > > Rick > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342547 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: I think I'm confused...
Here's another tip on this (cause I have to open my hosts file 20 times a week). Drag the hosts file to the desktop with the left mouse and choose "create short cut". Then right-click on the short cut and choose "properties" Change the "target" from C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts To... Notepad.exe "C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts" Then you can open and edit it willy nilly... -mark Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 Skype: markakruger www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Jason Durham [mailto:jqdur...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:02 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: I think I'm confused... Run Notepad.exe as Administrator Open C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts (no file extension) Add "127.0.0.1 www.mydomain.com" to the last line Open web server and configure to route by hostname "www.mydomain.com" Windows (by default) looks to your hosts file for name resolution before checking a DNS server. I do something like this for all of my dev sites. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 23, 2011, at 8:52 PM, "Rick Faircloth" wrote: > > I've started working on an MSOC application > and was setting up some test code which uses > the cgi.server_name as the determining value > for setting all the specific site variables. > > Then, I realized that this wouldn't work for > local development using "http://localhost"; because > there would be not cgi.server_name (except localhost) > to reference in the browser. > > I guess I can set up a domain in the database > for "localhost" and treat that the same way I would > treat a regular domain, but I wouldn't be able to > switch between various sites locally that way. > > Is an MSOC app testable for various domains only > on a server, where DNS is running, as opposed to locally? > > (There is probably a simple solution for this, but > I've been reading and thinking about this so much > I "can't see the forest for the trees!" > > ??? > > Rick > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342546 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: I think I'm confused...
I just use a hosts file and add as many domains as I like. Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 Skype: markakruger www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 8:52 PM To: cf-talk Subject: I think I'm confused... I've started working on an MSOC application and was setting up some test code which uses the cgi.server_name as the determining value for setting all the specific site variables. Then, I realized that this wouldn't work for local development using "http://localhost"; because there would be not cgi.server_name (except localhost) to reference in the browser. I guess I can set up a domain in the database for "localhost" and treat that the same way I would treat a regular domain, but I wouldn't be able to switch between various sites locally that way. Is an MSOC app testable for various domains only on a server, where DNS is running, as opposed to locally? (There is probably a simple solution for this, but I've been reading and thinking about this so much I "can't see the forest for the trees!" ??? Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342545 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: I think I'm confused...
Thanks, Jason, didn't know that! -Original Message- From: Jason Durham [mailto:jqdur...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 10:02 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: I think I'm confused... Run Notepad.exe as Administrator Open C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts (no file extension) Add "127.0.0.1 www.mydomain.com" to the last line Open web server and configure to route by hostname "www.mydomain.com" Windows (by default) looks to your hosts file for name resolution before checking a DNS server. I do something like this for all of my dev sites. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 23, 2011, at 8:52 PM, "Rick Faircloth" wrote: > > I've started working on an MSOC application > and was setting up some test code which uses > the cgi.server_name as the determining value > for setting all the specific site variables. > > Then, I realized that this wouldn't work for > local development using "http://localhost"; because > there would be not cgi.server_name (except localhost) > to reference in the browser. > > I guess I can set up a domain in the database > for "localhost" and treat that the same way I would > treat a regular domain, but I wouldn't be able to > switch between various sites locally that way. > > Is an MSOC app testable for various domains only > on a server, where DNS is running, as opposed to locally? > > (There is probably a simple solution for this, but > I've been reading and thinking about this so much > I "can't see the forest for the trees!" > > ??? > > Rick > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342544 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: I think I'm confused...
Thanks, didn't know that! -Original Message- From: wattw...@telarushq.com [mailto:wattw...@telarushq.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:57 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: I think I'm confused... Rick-- Modify your Windows hosts file for each domain you want reflected. It overrides external dns. Windows/system32/drivers/etc/hosts Run notepad as an administrator to modify it. - Reply message - From: "Rick Faircloth" Date: Wed, Feb 23, 2011 19:52 Subject: I think I'm confused... To: "cf-talk" I've started working on an MSOC application and was setting up some test code which uses the cgi.server_name as the determining value for setting all the specific site variables. Then, I realized that this wouldn't work for local development using "http://localhost"; because there would be not cgi.server_name (except localhost) to reference in the browser. I guess I can set up a domain in the database for "localhost" and treat that the same way I would treat a regular domain, but I wouldn't be able to switch between various sites locally that way. Is an MSOC app testable for various domains only on a server, where DNS is running, as opposed to locally? (There is probably a simple solution for this, but I've been reading and thinking about this so much I "can't see the forest for the trees!" ??? Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342543 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: I think I'm confused...
Run Notepad.exe as Administrator Open C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts (no file extension) Add "127.0.0.1 www.mydomain.com" to the last line Open web server and configure to route by hostname "www.mydomain.com" Windows (by default) looks to your hosts file for name resolution before checking a DNS server. I do something like this for all of my dev sites. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 23, 2011, at 8:52 PM, "Rick Faircloth" wrote: > > I've started working on an MSOC application > and was setting up some test code which uses > the cgi.server_name as the determining value > for setting all the specific site variables. > > Then, I realized that this wouldn't work for > local development using "http://localhost"; because > there would be not cgi.server_name (except localhost) > to reference in the browser. > > I guess I can set up a domain in the database > for "localhost" and treat that the same way I would > treat a regular domain, but I wouldn't be able to > switch between various sites locally that way. > > Is an MSOC app testable for various domains only > on a server, where DNS is running, as opposed to locally? > > (There is probably a simple solution for this, but > I've been reading and thinking about this so much > I "can't see the forest for the trees!" > > ??? > > Rick > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342542 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: I think I'm confused...
Rick-- Modify your Windows hosts file for each domain you want reflected. It overrides external dns. Windows/system32/drivers/etc/hosts Run notepad as an administrator to modify it. - Reply message - From: "Rick Faircloth" Date: Wed, Feb 23, 2011 19:52 Subject: I think I'm confused... To: "cf-talk" I've started working on an MSOC application and was setting up some test code which uses the cgi.server_name as the determining value for setting all the specific site variables. Then, I realized that this wouldn't work for local development using "http://localhost"; because there would be not cgi.server_name (except localhost) to reference in the browser. I guess I can set up a domain in the database for "localhost" and treat that the same way I would treat a regular domain, but I wouldn't be able to switch between various sites locally that way. Is an MSOC app testable for various domains only on a server, where DNS is running, as opposed to locally? (There is probably a simple solution for this, but I've been reading and thinking about this so much I "can't see the forest for the trees!" ??? Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342541 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
I think I'm confused...
I've started working on an MSOC application and was setting up some test code which uses the cgi.server_name as the determining value for setting all the specific site variables. Then, I realized that this wouldn't work for local development using "http://localhost"; because there would be not cgi.server_name (except localhost) to reference in the browser. I guess I can set up a domain in the database for "localhost" and treat that the same way I would treat a regular domain, but I wouldn't be able to switch between various sites locally that way. Is an MSOC app testable for various domains only on a server, where DNS is running, as opposed to locally? (There is probably a simple solution for this, but I've been reading and thinking about this so much I "can't see the forest for the trees!" ??? Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342540 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Feedback on this approach to "many sites, one codebase" (MSOC)
Yes, I used this method for a long time by putting code right into the CF codebase. I used a different datasource for the DB updates, one that allowed MODIFY / ALTER / CREATE, and then had the code test against existing DB structures to decide which changes needed to be made along with that set of code changes. Still always appreciated having those changes made in one DB, but it wouldn't have mattered much because all changes were managed in the same codebase. On 2/23/2011 3:46 PM, Brian Cain wrote: > I wrote a custom desktop application in VB to update all my databases at one > time. Using SQL scripting this can be easily managed. When I am ready to > roll out a change that requires a DB update, I can do it in real time, with > minimal service interruption, and without taking the sites offline. It has > not failed me yet, and I have been doing it that way for over 6 years. > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342539 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CF9 - cfgrid posting empty form data
Hi I'm having a mare with an HTML cfgrid which will not post any data whatever I do to it. I've used Flash grids before and not had any problems but this HTML grid I just cannot work out at all. It is bound to a CFC and populates itself just fine. However, once a row is selected and Submit is pressed, the FORM object on the destination page is completely blank. Any thoughts on this I'd really appreciate. The code for the grid is On the page myForm.cfm I get the following blank variables in the FORM object MYGRID __CFGRID__MYFORM__MYGRID Thanks DomH ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342538 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Feedback on this approach to "many sites, one codebase" (MSOC)
Granted most of my changes are minor like updating a stored procedure or view or adding a column. I also run them on a test database first. Updates that may have a major impact on a table with millions of records, would never be done while the sites are up, but regular minor changes and fixes by nature do not have as wide an impact as major updates and fixes. If you are making major changes you would definitely need to to some testing and have a well planned implementation strategy. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342537 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Feedback on this approach to "many sites, one codebase" (MSOC)
That may be. I have a lot of friends who haven't been busted driving after a few glasses of wine. By your reasoning since they haven't been busted it must not be a bad idea. On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Brian Cain wrote: > > I wrote a custom desktop application in VB to update all my databases at > one > time. Using SQL scripting this can be easily managed. When I am ready to > roll out a change that requires a DB update, I can do it in real time, with > minimal service interruption, and without taking the sites offline. It has > not failed me yet, and I have been doing it that way for over 6 years. > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342536 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Feedback on this approach to "many sites, one codebase" (MSOC)
I wrote a custom desktop application in VB to update all my databases at one time. Using SQL scripting this can be easily managed. When I am ready to roll out a change that requires a DB update, I can do it in real time, with minimal service interruption, and without taking the sites offline. It has not failed me yet, and I have been doing it that way for over 6 years. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342535 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfheader and foreign characters [spamtrap bayes][spamtrap heur]
On 2/24/2011 1:48 AM, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans wrote: > for editors which recognize BOMs, probably, but this suppose a Unicode aware > editor. even notepad is "unicode aware". these days only Luddites refuse unicode as default. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342534 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfheader and foreign characters
>>in the presence of a BOM it can guess fairly accurately. for editors which recognize BOMs, probably, but this suppose a Unicode aware editor. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342533 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Check me on this MSOC approach...
Ok... so I'm starting to set down an approach based on all the feedback to this point. How about this, as far as domain/directory setup goes: Main Parent Site Directory Structure for main parent site: e:\inetpub\webroot\mobile Domain for parent site: mobile.xyz.com Client Sites Domains for client sites: mobile01.xyz.com mobile02.xyz.com (This are just subdomains of a domain I own for dev purposes. The actual sites will be full domains, not subdomains...) Directory Structure for client sites: For mobile01.xyz.com... e:\inetpub\webroot\mobile01 For mobile02.xyz.com... e:\inetpub\webroot\mobile02 Virtual Directories for client sites in Main Parent Site: For mobile01.xyz.com, the virtual directory structure will be... e:\inetpub\webroot\mobile\mobileSites\mobile01 (mobile01 is virtual) For mobile02.xyz.com, the virtual directory structure will be... e:\inetpub\webroot\mobile\mobileSites\mobile02 (mobile02 is virtual) I set up the subdomains above in my DNS and created the sites in IIS. As a test, I set up an index.cfm in each directory, mobile01 and mobile02 that reads: Welcome to mobile01.xyz.com! Welcome to mobile02.xyz.com! Welcome to our mobile website! If I go to the appropriate domain, I'm getting the appropriate message. Any improvements I can make to this? Considerations? (There have been so many alternatives, I need to ask again at this point!) Thanks for any feedback! Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342532 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF8: Nested Array loop in a Query loop
It appears that you don't have any code that runs if any of these conditions are false: Is it possible that all these conditions are true only once per query loop iteration? Why not push some output to the screen if the above condition evaluates to false to see if that's the case? On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Adam Bourg wrote: > > Here's a bit of the code if you need to see it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >((adultExp gt validDateRange[listValue]) AND (adultExp LTE > validDateRange[listValue+1])) OR >((kidExp gt validDateRange[listValue]) AND (kidExp LTE > validDateRange[listValue+1]) ) OR >((frpExp gt validDateRange[listValue]) AND (frpExp LTE > validDateRange[listValue+1])) OR >((aExp gt validDateRange[listValue]) AND (aExp LTE > validDateRange[listValue+1])) OR >((aidExp gt validDateRange[listValue]) AND (aidExp LTE > validDateRange[listValue+1])) OR >((eExp gt validDateRange[listValue]) AND (eExp LTE > validDateRange[listValue+1])) OR >((waterExpt gt validDateRange[listValue]) AND (waterExpt LTE > validDateRange[listValue+1])) OR >((bloodExp gt validDateRange[listValue]) AND (bloodExp LTE > validDateRange[listValue+1])) OR >((oxyExp gt validDateRange[listValue]) AND (oxyExp LTE > validDateRange[listValue+1])) OR >((lifeExp gt validDateRange[listValue]) AND (lifeExp LTE > validDateRange[listValue+1])) OR >((wildExp gt validDateRange[listValue]) AND (wildExp LTE > validDateRange[listValue+1])) >> > > continueL=true> > continueL=true> > continueL=true> > continueL=true> > continueL=true> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342531 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfheader and foreign characters
On 2/23/2011 10:42 PM, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans wrote: > will assume when it opens the file. There are no ways this can be decided by > the application which creates the file. it can guess & in the presence of a BOM it can guess fairly accurately. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342530 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF8: Nested Array loop in a Query loop
Here's a bit of the code if you need to see it. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342529 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CF8: Nested Array loop in a Query loop
I'm having an issue with the cfloop only looping once. Here's a sudo code of whats going on: Using a CFdump it appears that the inner loop is only running once, while the outter loop is outputting 20-30 different pieces of data (expected). How can I fix? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342528 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfheader and foreign characters [spamtrap bayes][spamtrap heur]
>>in which format it is the file is in some proprietary format ... oops, I mean "in which format the file is if it is in some proprietary format..." ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342527 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfheader and foreign characters [spamtrap bayes][spamtrap heur]
>>no, these are not equivalent. windows 1252 is a superset of iso-8859-1. I meant equivalent in the general meaning "not quite identical". >>if a text editor/cf is told or can guess the encoding it will read it >>successfully. This is the point. The text editor can be "told" by the file in which format it is the file is in some proprietary format, like MS Word, RTF, or even HTML but not in plain .txt. A text file cannot tell in which format it is, it is suppose to be and can only be in ASCII, even if this ASCII is used as a base to encode some other format. Then all depends on what format the text editor will assume when it opens the file. There are no ways this can be decided by the application which creates the file. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342526 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: IE8 Form Submit button not being passed
I've seen this problem and long ago (over 8 years ago) read documentation on it too. Can't find it now, but the issue typically affects forms that have a single field and a submit button, that are submitted using the enter key instead of clicking the submit -- only in IE. If you add a second visible field to the form, you should see the problem magically disappear. Cheers, Kris ---orig post-- I am testing my application on an IE8 system running Win 7 and CF 9. I do not know if any of these are relevant but the problem does not occur on Firefox or Chrome. Essentially, IE is not passing the FORM.Submit to my post-back form processor. It passes everything else, including Submit.X and Y!! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342525 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Multiline - Dynamic Tabs
> Hi All, > > I am creating dynamic tabs using Coldfusion, HTML(ul and li). I was > just wondering if its possible to make them like windows styled tabs, > that is if a tab in first line is selected, I want to push it to the > second line. The problem I have is I am creating dynamic tabs. Is it > possible using Javascript/jquery, to calculate the widths of each tab > and determine at which point a second line of tabs would be started? > > Here is a sample code of what I am doing. > > http://jsfiddle.net/syEJx/5/ I solved the problem. Thanks ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342524 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: IE8 Form Submit button not being passed
The problem with your form is that you have a form element named "submit": name="Submit" Try changing that to something other than "Submit" and it should work. HTH, -Dain On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Michael Grant wrote: > > I know I've run into this before with someone's legacy app. I generally > don't use the form.submit so it hasn't been an issue in my own code. I > think > IIRC it has something to do with whether the submit button is clicked or if > the enter key is used to submit the form. Sorry if this is a red herring, > it's been a while. > -- *Dain M. Anderson *Lead Developer Terra Dotta, LLC 501 W. Franklin Street, Suite 105 Chapel Hill, NC 27516 Phone/Fax: 877-DOTTA-77 (877-368-8277) http://TerraDotta.com
Re: Feedback on this approach to "many sites, one codebase" (MSOC)
> > > Taking the system down for an entire hour, without warning, would not be > acceptable. Who said anything about without warning? How can you possibly have gotten that from what I said? We're talking about making code changes to a large multi-user application, not some casual css change. Of course you would notify your clientele ahead of time. I had no idea e-Learning ranked above international commerce for uptime necessity. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342522 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Feedback on this approach to "many sites, one codebase" (MSOC)
Tell my managers I have been in the defence industry, but not at the moment. We supply e-learning to customers who need/expect to access it more or less 24/7 - they work shifts. Taking the system down for an entire hour, without warning, would not be acceptable. Five minutes once a week, yes, but any more would be for a big upgrade, not just regular maintenance. Still, if a big upgrade is what we're talking about, then we inform them, give them a weeks notice, and take it down for the day. I'm not doing go-live and full testing in my sleep. - Original Message From: Michael Grant To: cf-talk Sent: Wed, 23 February, 2011 14:45:15 Subject: Re: Feedback on this approach to "many sites, one codebase" (MSOC) Really. Even banking sites come down for hours of maintenance. I suspect whatever your sites are, your 24/7 with no exceptions is a policy vs. a true necessity. Unless you are perhaps in the defence industry. Live code push? *shudders* On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Jane Williams wrote: > > Our sites run 24/7: we have no maintenance window that size. I bet I'm not > the > only one, either. > > > > - Original Message > From: Michael Grant > To: cf-talk > Sent: Wed, 23 February, 2011 14:21:31 > Subject: Re: Feedback on this approach to "many sites, one codebase" (MSOC) > > > Only if you roll your changes out while the site is live rather than during > a maintenance window. > Take the site down for an hour at 4am, push your code live and run your db > updating scripts on each db. > It shouldn't really be too big a deal. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342521 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Feedback on this approach to "many sites, one codebase" (MSOC)
Really. Even banking sites come down for hours of maintenance. I suspect whatever your sites are, your 24/7 with no exceptions is a policy vs. a true necessity. Unless you are perhaps in the defence industry. Live code push? *shudders* On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Jane Williams wrote: > > Our sites run 24/7: we have no maintenance window that size. I bet I'm not > the > only one, either. > > > > - Original Message > From: Michael Grant > To: cf-talk > Sent: Wed, 23 February, 2011 14:21:31 > Subject: Re: Feedback on this approach to "many sites, one codebase" (MSOC) > > > Only if you roll your changes out while the site is live rather than during > a maintenance window. > Take the site down for an hour at 4am, push your code live and run your db > updating scripts on each db. > It shouldn't really be too big a deal. > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Jason Fisher wrote: > > > > > The big caveat I will give about have multiple databases with > multi-tenant > > code is that any change to the shared code has to be reflected in every > > single database simultaneously. And that's a challenge and a half. > > > > > > > > From: "Rick Faircloth" > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:58 PM > > To: "cf-talk" > > Subject: RE: Feedback on this approach to "many sites, one codebase" > > (MSOC) > > > > I can see both sides on this one very clearly. > > > > To this point, all I've ever done is develop custom > > applications and websites. I haven't sold the exact same > > site in 10 or so years of development! > > > > However, I really want to get away from working > > just one-on-one with clients. They can be a real pain. > > Some are just downright ignorant and impossible to work with. > > (You can tell I've had a couple of bad experiences lately... ;o) > > > > I'm want to move into developing sites for specific uses, such > > as for recreation departments or real estate agents and brokers, etc., > > and have them sign up for the site online, choose their template, > > put in their content, and, after a free trial period, they pay > > their money. If they need support, they can email me. > > > > If they want functional customization, I'll build a custom function for a > > client, > > charge them for it, then make that function available to anyone > > else using my "SAAS" sites. The customers will never own the sites > > and never have the opportunity to "take the code" elsewhere. > > > > If they want cosmetic or style customization, I can do that > > and charge them for it. It will still remain my site and not > > the client's site. > > > > I'll still build custom apps along the way, I'm sure, but I'd > > like to start making my work on an app/site pay more than one time. > > > > However, like you Matt, I may end up going back to individual > > customizations, if things don't work out so well on the SAAS front. > > I do have some clients who always insist on being absolutely unique > > and want to have the "best" site. To those who want to be absolutely > > unique, I can sell the template for a few thousand or whatever amount, > > and they'll have exclusive rights to use that template, but they > > still won't own it. Soon as they stop paying, the template goes > > back into the fold. > > > > I just want to test this approach and see if I can make it work. > > > > Rick > > > > PS - when it comes to the database, I'm leaning towards a different > > database for each client. I'd hate to have problems with a client's > > data and have to parse through everyone else's data to see what > > the problem is. Of course, I do have some "common data" databases > > that everyone would share...local area info, etc. But I'm currently > > still using distinct databases for client-specific data. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Matt Robertson [mailto:websitema...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 1:02 PM > > To: cf-talk > > Subject: Re: Feedback on this approach to "many sites, one codebase" > > (MSOC) > > > > Even though my own CMS can handle multiple sites running off of a > > single installation, I don't run it that way. The points brought up > > about clients wanting individual customizations and portability fit my > > situation. I understand if you are offering software-as-a-service > > things change, but for me this turned out to be enough of a headache > > that I reverted to separate installs and have never regretted it. If > > a customer wants an upgrade, they pay me an hour or two individually > > to make that happen. If they want a specific feature that I don't > > want to fold into the overall codebase, I can do it - and earn the > > money for doing it - without worrying about consequences on 40 other > > web sites on the server. But thats a business decision and not > > coding. Mentioned just as food for thought. > > > > For sites for my own company, where presently we have about 36 up and > > running and will be at a
Re: cfheader and foreign characters [spamtrap bayes][spamtrap heur]
On 2/23/2011 9:12 PM, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans wrote: > If it contains special characters above 127, they will be interpreted in the > default character set of the operating system. unless there's a BOM. > For instance under Windows, il will probably be Window 1252 equivalent to ISO > 8859-1, ie. R�publique. no, these are not equivalent. windows 1252 is a superset of iso-8859-1. > If it is actually encoded in UTF-8, it will still be read as plain ASCII > characters, thus things like R�publique. not sure what to make of this, by "it" you mean the OS? or some text editor/cf? if a text editor/cf is told or can guess the encoding it will read it successfully. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342519 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Multiline - Dynamic Tabs
Hi All, I am creating dynamic tabs using Coldfusion, HTML(ul and li). I was just wondering if its possible to make them like windows styled tabs, that is if a tab in first line is selected, I want to push it to the second line. The problem I have is I am creating dynamic tabs. Is it possible using Javascript/jquery, to calculate the widths of each tab and determine at which point a second line of tabs would be started? Here is a sample code of what I am doing. http://jsfiddle.net/syEJx/5/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342518 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Feedback on this approach to "many sites, one codebase" (MSOC)
Our sites run 24/7: we have no maintenance window that size. I bet I'm not the only one, either. - Original Message From: Michael Grant To: cf-talk Sent: Wed, 23 February, 2011 14:21:31 Subject: Re: Feedback on this approach to "many sites, one codebase" (MSOC) Only if you roll your changes out while the site is live rather than during a maintenance window. Take the site down for an hour at 4am, push your code live and run your db updating scripts on each db. It shouldn't really be too big a deal. On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Jason Fisher wrote: > > The big caveat I will give about have multiple databases with multi-tenant > code is that any change to the shared code has to be reflected in every > single database simultaneously. And that's a challenge and a half. > > > > From: "Rick Faircloth" > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:58 PM > To: "cf-talk" > Subject: RE: Feedback on this approach to "many sites, one codebase" > (MSOC) > > I can see both sides on this one very clearly. > > To this point, all I've ever done is develop custom > applications and websites. I haven't sold the exact same > site in 10 or so years of development! > > However, I really want to get away from working > just one-on-one with clients. They can be a real pain. > Some are just downright ignorant and impossible to work with. > (You can tell I've had a couple of bad experiences lately... ;o) > > I'm want to move into developing sites for specific uses, such > as for recreation departments or real estate agents and brokers, etc., > and have them sign up for the site online, choose their template, > put in their content, and, after a free trial period, they pay > their money. If they need support, they can email me. > > If they want functional customization, I'll build a custom function for a > client, > charge them for it, then make that function available to anyone > else using my "SAAS" sites. The customers will never own the sites > and never have the opportunity to "take the code" elsewhere. > > If they want cosmetic or style customization, I can do that > and charge them for it. It will still remain my site and not > the client's site. > > I'll still build custom apps along the way, I'm sure, but I'd > like to start making my work on an app/site pay more than one time. > > However, like you Matt, I may end up going back to individual > customizations, if things don't work out so well on the SAAS front. > I do have some clients who always insist on being absolutely unique > and want to have the "best" site. To those who want to be absolutely > unique, I can sell the template for a few thousand or whatever amount, > and they'll have exclusive rights to use that template, but they > still won't own it. Soon as they stop paying, the template goes > back into the fold. > > I just want to test this approach and see if I can make it work. > > Rick > > PS - when it comes to the database, I'm leaning towards a different > database for each client. I'd hate to have problems with a client's > data and have to parse through everyone else's data to see what > the problem is. Of course, I do have some "common data" databases > that everyone would share...local area info, etc. But I'm currently > still using distinct databases for client-specific data. > > -Original Message- > From: Matt Robertson [mailto:websitema...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 1:02 PM > To: cf-talk > Subject: Re: Feedback on this approach to "many sites, one codebase" > (MSOC) > > Even though my own CMS can handle multiple sites running off of a > single installation, I don't run it that way. The points brought up > about clients wanting individual customizations and portability fit my > situation. I understand if you are offering software-as-a-service > things change, but for me this turned out to be enough of a headache > that I reverted to separate installs and have never regretted it. If > a customer wants an upgrade, they pay me an hour or two individually > to make that happen. If they want a specific feature that I don't > want to fold into the overall codebase, I can do it - and earn the > money for doing it - without worrying about consequences on 40 other > web sites on the server. But thats a business decision and not > coding. Mentioned just as food for thought. > > For sites for my own company, where presently we have about 36 up and > running and will be at around 60 when we are done, we *do* share a > single codebase. There are no special mappings. Each site has an > Application.cfm that looks like this: > > request.appName="AR_060110_1033"; > request.rootFolder="ARDotCom/"; > request.FQDN="www.mysiteAR.com"; > > > > The common file has some server vars too: > > server.BaseRoot="C:/foo/bar/sites/"; > server.dsn= etc. etc. blah blah > > And thats enough - along with more code in the common > "Application.cfm" - to set up absolute and relative path
Re: Feedback on this approach to "many sites, one codebase" (MSOC)
Only if you roll your changes out while the site is live rather than during a maintenance window. Take the site down for an hour at 4am, push your code live and run your db updating scripts on each db. It shouldn't really be too big a deal. On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Jason Fisher wrote: > > The big caveat I will give about have multiple databases with multi-tenant > code is that any change to the shared code has to be reflected in every > single database simultaneously. And that's a challenge and a half. > > > > From: "Rick Faircloth" > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:58 PM > To: "cf-talk" > Subject: RE: Feedback on this approach to "many sites, one codebase" > (MSOC) > > I can see both sides on this one very clearly. > > To this point, all I've ever done is develop custom > applications and websites. I haven't sold the exact same > site in 10 or so years of development! > > However, I really want to get away from working > just one-on-one with clients. They can be a real pain. > Some are just downright ignorant and impossible to work with. > (You can tell I've had a couple of bad experiences lately... ;o) > > I'm want to move into developing sites for specific uses, such > as for recreation departments or real estate agents and brokers, etc., > and have them sign up for the site online, choose their template, > put in their content, and, after a free trial period, they pay > their money. If they need support, they can email me. > > If they want functional customization, I'll build a custom function for a > client, > charge them for it, then make that function available to anyone > else using my "SAAS" sites. The customers will never own the sites > and never have the opportunity to "take the code" elsewhere. > > If they want cosmetic or style customization, I can do that > and charge them for it. It will still remain my site and not > the client's site. > > I'll still build custom apps along the way, I'm sure, but I'd > like to start making my work on an app/site pay more than one time. > > However, like you Matt, I may end up going back to individual > customizations, if things don't work out so well on the SAAS front. > I do have some clients who always insist on being absolutely unique > and want to have the "best" site. To those who want to be absolutely > unique, I can sell the template for a few thousand or whatever amount, > and they'll have exclusive rights to use that template, but they > still won't own it. Soon as they stop paying, the template goes > back into the fold. > > I just want to test this approach and see if I can make it work. > > Rick > > PS - when it comes to the database, I'm leaning towards a different > database for each client. I'd hate to have problems with a client's > data and have to parse through everyone else's data to see what > the problem is. Of course, I do have some "common data" databases > that everyone would share...local area info, etc. But I'm currently > still using distinct databases for client-specific data. > > -Original Message- > From: Matt Robertson [mailto:websitema...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 1:02 PM > To: cf-talk > Subject: Re: Feedback on this approach to "many sites, one codebase" > (MSOC) > > Even though my own CMS can handle multiple sites running off of a > single installation, I don't run it that way. The points brought up > about clients wanting individual customizations and portability fit my > situation. I understand if you are offering software-as-a-service > things change, but for me this turned out to be enough of a headache > that I reverted to separate installs and have never regretted it. If > a customer wants an upgrade, they pay me an hour or two individually > to make that happen. If they want a specific feature that I don't > want to fold into the overall codebase, I can do it - and earn the > money for doing it - without worrying about consequences on 40 other > web sites on the server. But thats a business decision and not > coding. Mentioned just as food for thought. > > For sites for my own company, where presently we have about 36 up and > running and will be at around 60 when we are done, we *do* share a > single codebase. There are no special mappings. Each site has an > Application.cfm that looks like this: > > request.appName="AR_060110_1033"; > request.rootFolder="ARDotCom/"; > request.FQDN="www.mysiteAR.com"; > > > > The common file has some server vars too: > > server.BaseRoot="C:/foo/bar/sites/"; > server.dsn= etc. etc. blah blah > > And thats enough - along with more code in the common > "Application.cfm" - to set up absolute and relative paths to the files > I have located in the common-use folder. Every site has its own > independent application scope. > > I've opted to set the app name manually so I can reset session and app > vars if need be... a rare occurrence but its nice to have the option > available. > > Th
RE: Feedback on this approach to "many sites, one codebase" (MSOC)
That's true...definitely something to take into consideration. -Original Message- From: Jason Fisher [mailto:ja...@wanax.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 7:34 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Feedback on this approach to "many sites, one codebase" (MSOC) The big caveat I will give about have multiple databases with multi-tenant code is that any change to the shared code has to be reflected in every single database simultaneously. And that's a challenge and a half. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342515 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfheader and foreign characters
>>I'm trying to save a text file that has foreign characters. You simply cannot specify a charset in a plain .txt file. A text file is simply a string of characters in ASCII. Unlike an HTML page, it does not contain any header to specify a character set. If it contains special characters above 127, they will be interpreted in the default character set of the operating system. For instance under Windows, il will probably be Window 1252 equivalent to ISO 8859-1, ie. République. If the OS does not consider characters above 127, it will show an ? for every character above 127, ie. R?publique On an Apple computer, it will be different. If it is actually encoded in UTF-8, it will still be read as plain ASCII characters, thus things like République. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342514 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: IE8 Form Submit button not being passed
I know I've run into this before with someone's legacy app. I generally don't use the form.submit so it hasn't been an issue in my own code. I think IIRC it has something to do with whether the submit button is clicked or if the enter key is used to submit the form. Sorry if this is a red herring, it's been a while. On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:27 AM, John Pullam wrote: > > I am testing my application on an IE8 system running Win 7 and CF 9. I do > not know if any of these are relevant but the problem does not occur on > Firefox or Chrome. > > Essentially, IE is not passing the FORM.Submit to my post-back form > processor. It passes everything else, including Submit.X and Y!! > > My form is as follows: > > > > First Name > Size="20" /> > Last Name > /> > > > src="../Buttons/MSearch.png" /> > > > When I get the postback on IE8, I use a cfdump to see what I got, and the > FIELDNAMES for the form are: FIRSTNAME,LASTNAME,SUBMIT2,SUBMIT.X,SUBMIT.Y > but not SUBMIT!!! > > As I use this technique in other applications to capture a post-back, I'm > rather concerned. Am I doing something wrong? > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342513 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: IE8 Form Submit button not being passed
You could probably avoid a lot of code rewrites by changing from an image button to using styles and a background image. That is what I do and have been able to avoid that issue. Sent from my iPhoned On Feb 23, 2011, at 7:43 AM, Phillip Duba wrote: > > Unfortunately John, no you aren't doing anything wrong in your base code > that worked in IE6. I had to rewrite a number of applications for this very > reason as our design team decided Image buttons were what we were going to > use and I saw this behavior in newer browsers. Unlike other browsers that > post both the .X, .Y and main variable, IE8 (and IE7, I think) don't. Yes, > you will need to take this into account on all your applications, > > Phil > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:27 AM, John Pullam wrote: > >> >> I am testing my application on an IE8 system running Win 7 and CF 9. I do >> not know if any of these are relevant but the problem does not occur on >> Firefox or Chrome. >> >> Essentially, IE is not passing the FORM.Submit to my post-back form >> processor. It passes everything else, including Submit.X and Y!! >> >> My form is as follows: >> >> >> >> First Name >> > Size="20" /> >> Last Name >> > /> >> >> >> > src="../Buttons/MSearch.png" /> >> >> >> When I get the postback on IE8, I use a cfdump to see what I got, and the >> FIELDNAMES for the form are: FIRSTNAME,LASTNAME,SUBMIT2,SUBMIT.X,SUBMIT.Y >> but not SUBMIT!!! >> >> As I use this technique in other applications to capture a post-back, I'm >> rather concerned. Am I doing something wrong? >> >> >> > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342512 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: IE8 Form Submit button not being passed
Unfortunately John, no you aren't doing anything wrong in your base code that worked in IE6. I had to rewrite a number of applications for this very reason as our design team decided Image buttons were what we were going to use and I saw this behavior in newer browsers. Unlike other browsers that post both the .X, .Y and main variable, IE8 (and IE7, I think) don't. Yes, you will need to take this into account on all your applications, Phil On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:27 AM, John Pullam wrote: > > I am testing my application on an IE8 system running Win 7 and CF 9. I do > not know if any of these are relevant but the problem does not occur on > Firefox or Chrome. > > Essentially, IE is not passing the FORM.Submit to my post-back form > processor. It passes everything else, including Submit.X and Y!! > > My form is as follows: > > > > First Name > Size="20" /> > Last Name > /> > > > src="../Buttons/MSearch.png" /> > > > When I get the postback on IE8, I use a cfdump to see what I got, and the > FIELDNAMES for the form are: FIRSTNAME,LASTNAME,SUBMIT2,SUBMIT.X,SUBMIT.Y > but not SUBMIT!!! > > As I use this technique in other applications to capture a post-back, I'm > rather concerned. Am I doing something wrong? > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342511 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
IE8 Form Submit button not being passed
I am testing my application on an IE8 system running Win 7 and CF 9. I do not know if any of these are relevant but the problem does not occur on Firefox or Chrome. Essentially, IE is not passing the FORM.Submit to my post-back form processor. It passes everything else, including Submit.X and Y!! My form is as follows: First Name Last Name When I get the postback on IE8, I use a cfdump to see what I got, and the FIELDNAMES for the form are: FIRSTNAME,LASTNAME,SUBMIT2,SUBMIT.X,SUBMIT.Y but not SUBMIT!!! As I use this technique in other applications to capture a post-back, I'm rather concerned. Am I doing something wrong? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342510 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Feedback on this approach to "many sites, one codebase" (MSOC)
The big caveat I will give about have multiple databases with multi-tenant code is that any change to the shared code has to be reflected in every single database simultaneously. And that's a challenge and a half. From: "Rick Faircloth" Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:58 PM To: "cf-talk" Subject: RE: Feedback on this approach to "many sites, one codebase" (MSOC) I can see both sides on this one very clearly. To this point, all I've ever done is develop custom applications and websites. I haven't sold the exact same site in 10 or so years of development! However, I really want to get away from working just one-on-one with clients. They can be a real pain. Some are just downright ignorant and impossible to work with. (You can tell I've had a couple of bad experiences lately... ;o) I'm want to move into developing sites for specific uses, such as for recreation departments or real estate agents and brokers, etc., and have them sign up for the site online, choose their template, put in their content, and, after a free trial period, they pay their money. If they need support, they can email me. If they want functional customization, I'll build a custom function for a client, charge them for it, then make that function available to anyone else using my "SAAS" sites. The customers will never own the sites and never have the opportunity to "take the code" elsewhere. If they want cosmetic or style customization, I can do that and charge them for it. It will still remain my site and not the client's site. I'll still build custom apps along the way, I'm sure, but I'd like to start making my work on an app/site pay more than one time. However, like you Matt, I may end up going back to individual customizations, if things don't work out so well on the SAAS front. I do have some clients who always insist on being absolutely unique and want to have the "best" site. To those who want to be absolutely unique, I can sell the template for a few thousand or whatever amount, and they'll have exclusive rights to use that template, but they still won't own it. Soon as they stop paying, the template goes back into the fold. I just want to test this approach and see if I can make it work. Rick PS - when it comes to the database, I'm leaning towards a different database for each client. I'd hate to have problems with a client's data and have to parse through everyone else's data to see what the problem is. Of course, I do have some "common data" databases that everyone would share...local area info, etc. But I'm currently still using distinct databases for client-specific data. -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:websitema...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 1:02 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Feedback on this approach to "many sites, one codebase" (MSOC) Even though my own CMS can handle multiple sites running off of a single installation, I don't run it that way. The points brought up about clients wanting individual customizations and portability fit my situation. I understand if you are offering software-as-a-service things change, but for me this turned out to be enough of a headache that I reverted to separate installs and have never regretted it. If a customer wants an upgrade, they pay me an hour or two individually to make that happen. If they want a specific feature that I don't want to fold into the overall codebase, I can do it - and earn the money for doing it - without worrying about consequences on 40 other web sites on the server. But thats a business decision and not coding. Mentioned just as food for thought. For sites for my own company, where presently we have about 36 up and running and will be at around 60 when we are done, we *do* share a single codebase. There are no special mappings. Each site has an Application.cfm that looks like this: request.appName="AR_060110_1033"; request.rootFolder="ARDotCom/"; request.FQDN="www.mysiteAR.com"; The common file has some server vars too: server.BaseRoot="C:/foo/bar/sites/"; server.dsn= etc. etc. blah blah And thats enough - along with more code in the common "Application.cfm" - to set up absolute and relative paths to the files I have located in the common-use folder. Every site has its own independent application scope. I've opted to set the app name manually so I can reset session and app vars if need be... a rare occurrence but its nice to have the option available. The root of this web site is a root folder in a discrete IIS web site and, since CF has no trouble recursing back up beyond a web root insofar as physical paths go, the /common/ folder is not accessible from the web, but it is from CF. Very simple to set up. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffus
Re: cfheader and foreign characters
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Richard Steele wrote: > I'm trying to save a text file that has foreign characters. If you want to instruct the browser to save a file instead of trying to render it to the user, you need to set a content disposition in combination with a MIME type of application/octet-stream. See RFC 2616 19.5.1. Once your file is placed on the harddisk of the client computer, it is up to the used application on the client computer to infer what charset is in it. Some applications will just presume it is the environment charset, some will presume it is a specific one (like ISO-8859-1), some will try to do some logic. You may be able to help that last category by making sure there is a BOM in your file: http://unicode.org/faq/utf_bom.html#bom10 Jochem -- Jochem van Dieten http://jochem.vandieten.net/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342508 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfheader and foreign characters [spamtrap bayes][spamtrap heur]
On 2/23/2011 4:42 AM, Richard Steele wrote: > uh, is this text actually utf-8 (ie what editor, etc did you use to create this page)? because your code works fine (well with cfoutput added) from cfbuilder. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342507 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
