Re: how much to charge for a e-commerce solution?

2014-05-03 Thread Matthew Smith 

Yes sir, great explanation.  The razor and blades is a wonderful analogy.
 Would you mind contacting me off list?  I really have no idea what to
charge and could use some help.  chedders...@gmail.com.  I would really
appreciate it!

Thanks,
Matthew


On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Bryan Stevenson <
br...@electricedgesystems.com> wrote:

>
> Having gone through the dot com craze where IPOs were plenty and
> everyone was offering stock options and a "piece of the pie" - I will
> NEVER work for a percentage of sales again ;-)
>
> I am talking about charging a licensing fee for your software - has
> NOTHING to do with the customers sales (other than you may want to have
> tiers of monthly charges for various levels of transaction volume).
>
> Don't get caught up in their sales or your hosting costs - it is
> software as a service (SaaS) - Microsoft doesn't ask for a piece of the
> $ their clients make using their software - they charge what they think
> it's worth and enough to make them a profit (MS bashing asideand yes
> I'd be on that bandwagon).
>
> The way I handle it (as my system is customized for most new customers)
> is that I charge my cost to do the customizations (or do them for free
> if they are not too over the top).  Then I make my money on recurring
> revenue froma  per transaction fee I charge to access to my system and
> the professional services that come with it.  As long as I am getting my
> fee I enhance the system for free and add reports and other
> customizations for free.  Those are the broad strokes.
>
> In other words - give them the razor (install/config/test/launch
> services) and then sell them the blades (your monthly fee for as long as
> they use you).
>
> Hope that better explains what I was on about ;-)
>
> Cheers
>
> *Bryan Stevenson*B.Comm.
> President & CEO
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. - makers of FACTS^(TM)
> phone: 250.480.0642
> cell: 250.920.8830
> e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com  br...@electricedgesystems.com>
> web: www.electricedgesystems.com 
> and www.fisheryfacts.com 
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Re: how much to charge for a e-commerce solution?

2014-05-03 Thread Bryan Stevenson 

Having gone through the dot com craze where IPOs were plenty and 
everyone was offering stock options and a "piece of the pie" - I will 
NEVER work for a percentage of sales again ;-)

I am talking about charging a licensing fee for your software - has 
NOTHING to do with the customers sales (other than you may want to have 
tiers of monthly charges for various levels of transaction volume).

Don't get caught up in their sales or your hosting costs - it is 
software as a service (SaaS) - Microsoft doesn't ask for a piece of the 
$ their clients make using their software - they charge what they think 
it's worth and enough to make them a profit (MS bashing asideand yes 
I'd be on that bandwagon).

The way I handle it (as my system is customized for most new customers) 
is that I charge my cost to do the customizations (or do them for free 
if they are not too over the top).  Then I make my money on recurring 
revenue froma  per transaction fee I charge to access to my system and 
the professional services that come with it.  As long as I am getting my 
fee I enhance the system for free and add reports and other 
customizations for free.  Those are the broad strokes.

In other words - give them the razor (install/config/test/launch 
services) and then sell them the blades (your monthly fee for as long as 
they use you).

Hope that better explains what I was on about ;-)

Cheers

*Bryan Stevenson*B.Comm.
President & CEO
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. - makers of FACTS^(TM)
phone: 250.480.0642
cell: 250.920.8830
e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com 
web: www.electricedgesystems.com  
and www.fisheryfacts.com 



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Re: how much to charge for a e-commerce solution?

2014-05-03 Thread Matthew Smith 

Great advice, thanks.

I would want a little for the initial set up.  The merch I want would be fair I 
think.

A monthly fee to cover hosting and the like would be fair.  What about a 
percentage of sales?  I feel this would be appropriate as I would be motivated 
to continue working on the site and do things like SEO and other promotion.  Is 
this ethical and something others do?  If so, what is a reasonable percentage?

Thanks for the help!

>Sounds like you have built a product. If it is already in use then you 
>may have a track record to rely on.
>
>If so, I would NOT sell your solution for  a fixed price.push for a 
>monthly subscription for your SaaS solution and earn recurring revenue ;-)
>
>Of course you have to be in line with other such products and have a 
>reason why you are worth what you decide to charge as compared to the 
>competition.
>
>just my 2 cents
>
>*Bryan Stevenson*B.Comm.
>President & CEO
>Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. - makers of FACTS^(TM)
>phone: 250.480.0642
>cell: 250.920.8830
>e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com 
>web: www.electricedgesystems.com  
>and www.fisheryfacts.com 
>
>
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Re: how much to charge for a e-commerce solution?

2014-05-03 Thread Bryan Stevenson 

Sounds like you have built a product. If it is already in use then you 
may have a track record to rely on.

If so, I would NOT sell your solution for  a fixed price.push for a 
monthly subscription for your SaaS solution and earn recurring revenue ;-)

Of course you have to be in line with other such products and have a 
reason why you are worth what you decide to charge as compared to the 
competition.

just my 2 cents

*Bryan Stevenson*B.Comm.
President & CEO
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. - makers of FACTS^(TM)
phone: 250.480.0642
cell: 250.920.8830
e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com 
web: www.electricedgesystems.com  
and www.fisheryfacts.com 



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Re: problem

2014-05-03 Thread Rick Mason 

Pete,

Also take a look at AngularJS.  For me they've taken a CF centric approach
to JavaScript that I just understand easier.

By CF centric I mean that with most JS frameworks you have to tell the DOM
what to do and how to do it.  With AngularJS you tell it what you want to
do and it figures out on its own how to do it.


Rick


On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Bryan Stevenson <
br...@electricedgesystems.com> wrote:

>
> So simple and easy the website just says "Dynamic" at the moment ;-)
>
> I'll put forward AJAX via jQuery
>
> Cheers
>
> *Bryan Stevenson*B.Comm.
> President & CEO
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. - makers of FACTS^(TM)
> phone: 250.480.0642
> cell: 250.920.8830
> e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com  br...@electricedgesystems.com>
> web: www.electricedgesystems.com 
> and www.fisheryfacts.com 
>
>
> 

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Re: how much to charge for a e-commerce solution?

2014-05-03 Thread John M Bliss 

This thing is $250  http://www.cf-ezcart.com/live/ezcartlive.cfm


On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Matthew Smith  wrote:

>
> I need to put in a quote for an e-commerce solution.  I have a solution
> that I have developed over the last decade.  It has paypal and cc
> integration, a category and unlimited subcategory capability, the ability
> to handle unique, limited, and unlimited items, and a transaction locking
> mechanism so no duplicate order on unique or limited items.
>
> I am meeting with the business owners this week to discuss.  I will be
> accepting about $650 in merchandise, though I could get the items for about
> $400 online.  This is normal for the industry.  I would normally quote an
> hourly rate but would rather have a flat price for this and maybe an option
> for overage hours.
>
> I am not the best for graphic design, so I would either contract that out
> or get a template.  Fixed costs include template, credit card gateway, cert.
>
> I am figuring about 20 hours or so for labor, but I have put in countless
> hours to get the solution to the point it is.
>
> I am not sure what to quote and would really appreciate the help.  Thanks!
>
> 

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how much to charge for a e-commerce solution?

2014-05-03 Thread Matthew Smith 

I need to put in a quote for an e-commerce solution.  I have a solution that I 
have developed over the last decade.  It has paypal and cc integration, a 
category and unlimited subcategory capability, the ability to handle unique, 
limited, and unlimited items, and a transaction locking mechanism so no 
duplicate order on unique or limited items.

I am meeting with the business owners this week to discuss.  I will be 
accepting about $650 in merchandise, though I could get the items for about 
$400 online.  This is normal for the industry.  I would normally quote an 
hourly rate but would rather have a flat price for this and maybe an option for 
overage hours.

I am not the best for graphic design, so I would either contract that out or 
get a template.  Fixed costs include template, credit card gateway, cert.

I am figuring about 20 hours or so for labor, but I have put in countless hours 
to get the solution to the point it is.

I am not sure what to quote and would really appreciate the help.  Thanks! 

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Re: problem

2014-05-03 Thread Bryan Stevenson 

So simple and easy the website just says "Dynamic" at the moment ;-)

I'll put forward AJAX via jQuery

Cheers

*Bryan Stevenson*B.Comm.
President & CEO
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. - makers of FACTS^(TM)
phone: 250.480.0642
cell: 250.920.8830
e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com 
web: www.electricedgesystems.com  
and www.fisheryfacts.com 


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