Paging Principals

2003-09-10 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown
Hi,
I have an app that queries a table and displays a subset of the query
results in a paged format, showing only 10 results per page.  Some queries
will return upwards of 1,000 rows.

This query joins quite a few tables - say 8 or so, however the query itself
only requires one table to obtain the basis of the dataset(the rest of the
tables in the join are used for display info or 'cosmetic' type
information).

Generally speaking, which of the following would be more efficient:

Option 1:
- Query database, joining 8 tables, get entire dataset (1000 rows)
- CFOUTPUT / Loop limited to start row (page ordinal) and maxrows (10)

Option 2:
- Query database only based on the results of one table (1000 rows)
- Cfoutput / Loop limited to start row (page ordinal) and maxrows (10)
- within output loop, perform second query joining the 8 tables, based on a
single primary key returned from the initial dataset. (returns single row)

In essence, the question revolves around whether it is more expensive to
pull an entire 1,000 record joined dataset in one shot, or to make the
initial query lean, and then do ten consecutive queries performing the join.
The former likely incurs more database load, while the latter would incur
more interaction with odbc.

Whew.  Interested in your answers!

Thanks,
Geoffrey Brown

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RE: Paging Principals

2003-09-10 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown
Hi,
Good idea.
A cached query wouldn't work for us, unfortunately, as the data changes
almost by the minute.

Geoff B

 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 9:43 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Paging Principals


 When I had something like this, I used the full query but only
 retrieved the
 top n, where n is the highest index to display.  So, if you are displaying
 10 per page...

 page 1, n=10
 page 2, n=20

 and so on.  Maybe not a perfect solution, but dropped average processing
 time a lot, since people would generally either narrow the search or only
 look at the first page or two.

 If you think people might be flipping through a large number of
 pages, look
 at query caching.


 --  Ben Doom
 Programmer  General Lackey
 Moonbow Software, Inc

 : -Original Message-
 : From: Geoffrey V. Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 9:18 AM
 : To: CF-Talk
 : Subject: Paging Principals
 :
 :
 : Hi,
 : I have an app that queries a table and displays a subset of the query
 : results in a paged format, showing only 10 results per page.
 Some queries
 : will return upwards of 1,000 rows.
 :
 : This query joins quite a few tables - say 8 or so, however the
 : query itself
 : only requires one table to obtain the basis of the dataset(the
 rest of the
 : tables in the join are used for display info or 'cosmetic' type
 : information).
 :
 : Generally speaking, which of the following would be more efficient:
 :
 : Option 1:
 : - Query database, joining 8 tables, get entire dataset (1000 rows)
 : - CFOUTPUT / Loop limited to start row (page ordinal) and maxrows (10)
 :
 : Option 2:
 : - Query database only based on the results of one table (1000 rows)
 : - Cfoutput / Loop limited to start row (page ordinal) and maxrows (10)
 : - within output loop, perform second query joining the 8 tables,
 : based on a
 : single primary key returned from the initial dataset. (returns
 single row)
 :
 : In essence, the question revolves around whether it is more expensive to
 : pull an entire 1,000 record joined dataset in one shot, or to make the
 : initial query lean, and then do ten consecutive queries
 : performing the join.
 : The former likely incurs more database load, while the latter
 would incur
 : more interaction with odbc.
 :
 : Whew.  Interested in your answers!
 :
 : Thanks,
 : Geoffrey Brown
 : 
 : Online Operations Manager
 : Deerfield.com
 : 989.732.8856 ext. 227 (Gaylord)
 : 231.935.4640 ext. 123 (Traverse City)
 : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :
 : http://www.deerfield.com
 : Personal Service with a :-)
 :
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http://www.visnetic.com
:
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RE: Paging Principals

2003-09-10 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown
Hi,
This wouldn't sound not too different than a stored procedure then.

It is written in a pretty solid stored procedure at present.

Geoff B

 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 2:25 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Paging Principals


 I can't speak for Oracle, but in MS SQL you get some limited performance
 gains, because the DB does the statement optimization once, then
 stores it.

 Not a huge gain, to be sure, but some.


 --  Ben Doom
 Programmer  General Lackey
 Moonbow Software, Inc

 : -Original Message-
 : From: Andre Turrettini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 2:14 PM
 : To: CF-Talk
 : Subject: RE: Paging Principals
 :
 :
 : My understanding of a view is that it is recreated when you run
 : your query.
 : At least in Oracle it does the joins under the hood at the time
 : you request
 : your data.  Thus, there should be no performance gains there.
 :
 : DRE
 :
 : -Original Message-
 : From: Mark Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 11:53 AM
 : To: CF-Talk
 : Subject: RE: Paging Principals
 :
 :
 : You need to be careful with this scenario because it may not be more
 : efficient, it depends upon your database schema. I tried this on an
 : application we were doing and our situation was that it was possible to
 : bring back 200 - 300k records (not likely, but possible). Our
 database was
 : created in such a way that even though we tried bringing back the top n
 : records, the query still had to touch every record in all the joined
 : tables. The result was minimal to no performance increase. The
 : moral of the
 : story would be, it largely depends on your indexing and schema whether a
 : particular technique will work or not.
 :
 : A view, as Jon mentioned, would be a very good idea since you
 : wouldn't have
 : all the joins involved. The only thing you need to worry about
 with a view
 : is the inserting and updating on the underlying tables and what the
 : performance hit will be on back-end processing updating the view,
 : especially
 : if you're relying on CF to do the inserting and updating.
 :
 : Mark
 :
 :
 : -Original Message-
 : From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 12:57 PM
 : To: CF-Talk
 : Subject: Re: Paging Principals
 :
 :
 : Since most people are not going to browse through all 100 pages of
 : records, pulling a 1000 records for everyone, has some obvious
 : inefficiencies.
 :
 : I'd go for individual queries on each page, but take the 8 join query
 : out of CF, and make it a view. The view will help lessen the impact of
 : that query, and make your code less complex at the same time.
 :
 : --
 :  jon
 :  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :
 : Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 9:17:43 AM, you wrote:
 : GVB Hi,
 : GVB I have an app that queries a table and displays a subset
 of the query
 : GVB results in a paged format, showing only 10 results per page.  Some
 : queries
 : GVB will return upwards of 1,000 rows.
 :
 : GVB This query joins quite a few tables - say 8 or so, however
 the query
 : itself
 : GVB only requires one table to obtain the basis of the
 : dataset(the rest of
 : the
 : GVB tables in the join are used for display info or 'cosmetic' type
 : GVB information).
 :
 : GVB Generally speaking, which of the following would be more efficient:
 :
 : GVB Option 1:
 : GVB - Query database, joining 8 tables, get entire dataset (1000 rows)
 : GVB - CFOUTPUT / Loop limited to start row (page ordinal) and
 : maxrows (10)
 :
 : GVB Option 2:
 : GVB - Query database only based on the results of one table (1000 rows)
 : GVB - Cfoutput / Loop limited to start row (page ordinal) and
 : maxrows (10)
 : GVB - within output loop, perform second query joining the 8
 : tables, based
 : on a
 : GVB single primary key returned from the initial dataset.
 (returns single
 : row)
 :
 : GVB In essence, the question revolves around whether it is
 more expensive
 : to
 : GVB pull an entire 1,000 record joined dataset in one shot, or
 : to make the
 : GVB initial query lean, and then do ten consecutive queries
 : performing the
 : join.
 : GVB The former likely incurs more database load, while the latter would
 : incur
 : GVB more interaction with odbc.
 :
 : GVB Whew.  Interested in your answers!
 :
 : GVB Thanks,
 : GVB Geoffrey Brown
 : GVB 
 : GVB Online Operations Manager
 : GVB Deerfield.com
 : GVB 989.732.8856 ext. 227 (Gaylord)
 : GVB 231.935.4640 ext. 123 (Traverse City)
 : GVB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :
 : GVB http://www.deerfield.com
 : GVB Personal Service with a :-)
 :
 : GVB VisNetic (viz-net-ik) 2002: vision of the Internet
 : http://www.visnetic.com
 :
 : GVB
 :
 :
 :
 
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RE: Image manipulation

2003-09-10 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown
Hi,
Efflare has a great solution, though, it is pricey, as you state.

It is rock solid, and we put ours under very heavy load.

Geoff B

 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 2:58 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Image manipulation
 
 
 Hi, all.
 
 Ok...my head hurts from searching...I've checked the archives...
 Just can't find the answer I need...
 
 Is there any image manipulation tag that will allow the width to be
 specified and have the height automatically sized so that the image
 remains proportional?
 
 Couldn't find that answer concerning ImageMagick...and Efflare
 might do it, (haven't checked), but boy, Efflare's costly...
 
 Almost all my resizing needs width specified and height automatically
 calculated proportional to width...
 
 Solutions?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Rick
 
 
 
 
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ODBC Error: Timeout Expired

2000-11-13 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown


Hi,
We are running SQL Server 7.0.  I'm getting "timeout expired" errors on one
script, which runs a lenthy query.  The CFQuery has a timeout attrib of
, and the script has a requesttimeout value of .  The error is still
occurring.

I'm thinking this must be a server config issue.  Any ideas on resolution?

Geoff B



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Win2k Clustering and CF

2000-10-13 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown


Hi,
I've got a small win2k cluster setup for some CF apps that I'm running.  I
now need a way to monitor the CF service from a third box on the same
network.  If CF begins queueing too many requests, or is not responsive, I
need to remove the box from the cluster.  Removing the box can be done very
easily, however, monitoring the CF service has proved to be elusive.

Is there a third party tool available for monitoring the CF service in a
cluster or otherwise?

Thanks,
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Sharing sessions between CFM ASP

2000-10-02 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown


Hi,
I have a session var that needs to be shared between a CFM script and an ASP
script on the same server (same domain, etc).

Is this possible?  How?

- Geoff B


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RE: Javascript string search question...

2000-10-02 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown


Hi,
You can use this:

MyString.indexOf("substring")

This will return -1 if not found, or a value if the substring is found.

- Geoff B

 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 2:17 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Javascript string search question...


 Anyone know how to do a text string search in Javascript?  I've used
 substring before, but I'm looking for some way to do something akin to
 find() in CF, where it finds the substring ANYWHERE in the string to be
 searched.  Is it necessary to do a character by character search, or is
 there a javascript command to find any instance of the search
 string in the
 string to be searched?

 CFUG-SFL Manager
 -Kev
 /CFUG-SFL Manager

  -Original Message-
  From: Stewart, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 12:44 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: CFServer a memory leaker?
 
 
  Tim,
 
  I'm basically running the same thing: Win98, CFServer, CFStudio,
  PWS, Intel
  Celeron 300 (overclocked to 450) and 128 RAM. I've had a few
 problems, but
  nothing major. This configuration works quite well for what I
 use it for.
  Now, I wouldn't use this for any type of production scenario,
 but it works
  well for just playing around at home. I also run many other
  programs on this
  machine as well: MS Office, numerous games, mem turbo and Zone Alarm.
 
  I would definitely beef-up the RAM on your machine and it should act a
  little better.
 
  For what it's worth,
 
  ~Mark
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Claremont, Timothy S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 11:54 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: CFServer a memory leaker?
 
 
  At home I have installed CFSERVER running on Personal Web Server,
  using RDS.
 
  Since I have installed both server and studio, my system is
 very unstable
  and totally locks up many times a day. This is on Windows 98
 with only 64
  meg of RAM.
 
  Is this simply a memory issue, or is this configuration giving
  everyone else
  fits as well???
 
 
 
  
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RE: Sharing sessions between CFM ASP

2000-10-02 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown


How about cookies, this would even be workable in the situation?

 -Original Message-
 From: Billy Cravens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 3:31 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Sharing sessions between CFM  ASP


 Not really possible.  You can however, send a variable between pages
 (links, cfhttp, etc.) and convert the variable (form, url) into that
 application server's session variables.  It works just like passing
 session variables between 2 ColdFusion servers.

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 "Geoffrey V. Brown" wrote:
 
  Hi,
  I have a session var that needs to be shared between a CFM
 script and an ASP
  script on the same server (same domain, etc).
 
  Is this possible?  How?
 
  - Geoff B
 
 
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RE: ASP or Coldfusion?

2000-09-24 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown


Here's a question- are you running 4.0 or 4.5.x?

 -Original Message-
 From: Richard Fantini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 12:16 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: ASP or Coldfusion?


 Then you truly must be doing something wrong...

 Our main site does over 1.2 million hits a week with extremely heavy
 database and CF processing.  The CF machine is a Dual PII 400,
 512mb RAM and
 a RAID array... The database hardware is identical, and is running SQL7.
 That's it, no clustering or anything like that.  We rarely ever have a
 problem with CF.  The code has been optimized on the heavily hit pages but
 there is still a decent amount of older quick and dirty stuff.  I
 don't have
 a clue as to how you were crashing the server with only 100,000
 hits... but
 I'm willing to bet it was your code.

 -Rich


 - Original Message -
 From: "Geoffrey V. Brown" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:45 AM
 Subject: RE: ASP or Coldfusion?


 
  Hi,
  I'll offer my opinion, as I'm facing the same thing.  I have a site that
 is
  going to be massive.  Cold Fusion simply could not hold up to the load,
 and
  crashed repeatedly.  The site is about 99% data driven, so
 there is a lot
 of
  data access going on.  I am now developing this site in ASP,
 and it seems
  far more stable.  We are generally getting 100k+ hits a week on
 this site.
 
  After seeing many large projects fail with cold fusion, I'd recommend
 trying
  other options before going the CF route on a large project.
 Note, I am a
  die hard CF developer, I feel that CF is good for smaller sites, less
 hits,
  and allows for a faster development time than ASP... but it just doesn't
  hold up on larger projects.
 
 


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RE: ASP or Coldfusion?

2000-09-22 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown


Hi,
I'll offer my opinion, as I'm facing the same thing.  I have a site that is
going to be massive.  Cold Fusion simply could not hold up to the load, and
crashed repeatedly.  The site is about 99% data driven, so there is a lot of
data access going on.  I am now developing this site in ASP, and it seems
far more stable.  We are generally getting 100k+ hits a week on this site.

After seeing many large projects fail with cold fusion, I'd recommend trying
other options before going the CF route on a large project.  Note, I am a
die hard CF developer, I feel that CF is good for smaller sites, less hits,
and allows for a faster development time than ASP... but it just doesn't
hold up on larger projects.


 -Original Message-
 From: Dean Alexandrou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:01 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: ASP or Coldfusion?


 I am not sure what tool to use to develop quite a major site. I have heard
 that while coldfusion is good for small sites, ASP is more
 robust, and would
 cope better with a large site that has to deal with a few thousand hits a
 week.


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RE: ASP or Coldfusion?

2000-09-22 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown


Hi,
We had a Dual P3 600, 1gig+ ram as a cf box, running 4.5.1.  The db server
was SQL Server 7 on a dual 600, 512 ram.  No clustering.  We have roughly 70
queries that cache data, 20-40 recordsets each.  Some queries use stored
procedures, others do not.  Each page runs a minimum of three queries.
Server settings are as Allaire recommends for multi processor systems.

 -Original Message-
 From: Reynolds, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:51 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: ASP or Coldfusion?


 I'm curious on this one. What set-up did you have? Where did the issues
 arise? Did you cluster? CF Server and DB on same machine? Caching
 strategies? DB Stored Procedures? What server settings?

 No criticism, just genuinely interested as Allaire has done some analysis
 which indicates a dual pIII 1/2 Gig server should be able to deal with
 500-600 responses every 8 seconds and that clustering servers provides a
 linear growth.


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  From:   Geoffrey V. Brown[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   22 September 2000 15:45
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject:RE: ASP or Coldfusion?
 
 
  Hi,
  I'll offer my opinion, as I'm facing the same thing.  I have a site that
  is
  going to be massive.  Cold Fusion simply could not hold up to the load,
  and
  crashed repeatedly.  The site is about 99% data driven, so
 there is a lot
  of
  data access going on.  I am now developing this site in ASP,
 and it seems
  far more stable.  We are generally getting 100k+ hits a week on
 this site.
 
  After seeing many large projects fail with cold fusion, I'd recommend
  trying
  other options before going the CF route on a large project.
 Note, I am a
  die hard CF developer, I feel that CF is good for smaller sites, less
  hits,
  and allows for a faster development time than ASP... but it just doesn't
  hold up on larger projects.
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Dean Alexandrou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:01 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: ASP or Coldfusion?
  
  
   I am not sure what tool to use to develop quite a major site. I have
  heard
   that while coldfusion is good for small sites, ASP is more
   robust, and would
   cope better with a large site that has to deal with a few
 thousand hits
  a
   week.
  
  
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Application in ASP

2000-09-07 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown


Hi,
Here I am again, defiling the list with another ASP question.  Sorry, but it
is somewhat CF related

Does anyone know if ASP has an application.cfm equivalent?

Thanks,
Geoff B


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URGENT! - Help With OLEDB

2000-09-06 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown


Hi,
With some playing around, I have found that OLEDB seems to be much more
stable that ODBC.  For awhile, we were recieving random disappearances of
ODBC datasources, which required a reboot.

Anyway, the problem I'm having is that the results from OLEDB aren't
consistant with those in ODBC.  Example: I have one query that returns a
series of results, and the query is dynamically generated.  This works
*perfectly* under ODBC.  Under OLEDB, it returns zero records.

I've tried even moving the query to a stored procedure and generating it
dynamically from there.  No good.  Regardless of what I've tried, simply
changing from ODBC to an OLEDB datasource effects the results returned.

Any ideas, thoughts, help?!?

Thanks,
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CFX in ASP

2000-09-05 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown


Hey,
I was wondering if anyone knew of anyway to pull data from a CFX using ASP?
I'm thinking it could be done in a round-about way, as Cold Fusion is on the
same box as the ASP server, but for the sake of stability we need to run
some scripts in ASP.

Ideas?

Thanks,
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RE: Can't work out IIF/IsDefined quirk

2000-08-29 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown


Hi,
Use this:

#IIF(isdefined("form.categories"), "form.categories", de(''))#

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 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 9:20 AM
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 Subject: Can't work out IIF/IsDefined quirk


 I got this:

 Error Diagnostic Information

 An error occurred while evaluating the expression:

 #IIF(IsDefined("form.categories"), form.categories, DE(''))#

 Error near line 51, column 11.
 --
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 Error resolving parameter FORM.CATEGORIES

 The specified form field cannot be found. This problem is very
 likely due to
 the fact that you have misspelled the form field name.

 It's supposed to check if it's been defined, and then if it has output it,
 and if it hasn't, output nothing.

 IT'S NOT WORKING!

 Anyone any idea why?

 Paul


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RE: Can't work out IIF/IsDefined quirk

2000-08-29 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown


Hi,
Don't mean to disagree, but give that line of code a shot, I use it
everywhere in my scripts!  You must use double quotes around the variable
name though.

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 Subject: RE: Can't work out IIF/IsDefined quirk


 On 8/29/00, Geoffrey V. Brown penned:
 Hi,
 Use this:
 
 #IIF(isdefined("form.categories"), "form.categories", de(''))#

 Sorry. You can't use isdefined in an IIF. If it's not defined it will
 still try and reference the variable and return an error. If you must
 use isdefined, you'll need to use a real cfif.

 What you can do is this:

 CFIF isDefined('form.categories')
 cfset variables.categories = form.categories
 cfelse
 cfset variables.categories = ""
 /CFIF

 IIf(variables.categories is "", DE(''), DE(variables.categories))#

 Or:

 IIf(variables.categories is "", DE(''), DE('#variables.categories#'))#
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RE: Why Netscape's serious lag time?

2000-08-25 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown


Hi,
Netscape is a little freaky about tables.  You have to make sure that all of
your width / height calculations are defined, and are accurate.  On first
glance, I found that you have a table with a width of 600 contained within a
table with a width of 585.  Netscape is probably trying to recalc all the
tables, which causes the lag.  I didn't dig any deeper than that though...

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 -Original Message-
 From: Harold Goodson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 8:04 AM
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 Subject: Why Netscape's serious lag time?


 Hey all,

 Might anyone be able to offer a plausible solution to Netscape's lag time
 at the following URL?

 It appears to be loading the tables and *all* of their images before
 displaying the page at all.  This problem exists in other sites I have
 worked on and I've yet to find a solution outside of not using tables
 within tables.  I can't imagine it being caused by the CF code,
 but I can't
 really see what's causing it to happen.


 http://www.awgear.com/products/index.cfm?fuseaction=dsp_productsD
 epartment
 _name=Sleeping%20BagsDepartment_img=sleepingbag_tn_title.gif

 or just: http://www.awgear.com and click sleeping bags or most all of the
 links.

 Any ideas/suggestions would be appreciated.

 -Andy G.

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RE: Cold Fusion vs. Java Servers: Performance

2000-08-22 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown


Hi,
I would also be very, very interested in this information...

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 Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 1:08 PM
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 Subject: Cold Fusion vs. Java Servers: Performance


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 benchmark results for them? I'm trying to find out how well Cold Fusion =
 stands up against them from a strictly performance based standpoint - =
 processing time, stability, amount of load they can handle,etc. What I'm =
 trying to figure out is if these Java servers have anything in their =
 favour apart from using a standard non-proprietary programming language.

 Thanks much,

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RE: Cold Fusion vs. Java Servers: Performance

2000-08-22 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown


Any feedback on JRun performance vs CF?

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 Cold Fusion doesn't stand up to them. At all. I've watched a
 couple of sites
 move from CF to ATG Dynamo and WebLogic, and the performance just can't be
 compared... they knock the socks off of CF. That isn't to say
 that CF can't
 be used in high traffic sites - if you want to have a few dozen servers
 running. I personally love CF for intranets and other low traffic
 applications, betas, etc.. but it's just not in the same league as those
 guys.

 As we move closer to JRun/CF integration it will start to compete
 though. ;)

 Ed

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Let's Brag...

2000-08-21 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown


Hi,
We're looking to upgrade some of our servers.  I saw that one CF load
balancing document recommended a certain Compaq server for use with CF.

I was wondering, what kind of servers is everyone else running?  Just for
the sake of my own curiosity

Thanks,
Geoff B


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RE: Good inexpensive NT Email Solution

2000-08-18 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown


Hi,
I'd highly recommend MDaemon.  Not that I'm biased or anything

We do have a CF interface to MDaemon as well, if that is a solution you
decide to go with.

You can find the trial here:
http://mdaemon.deerfield.com/

Thanks,
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 Subject: OT: Good inexpensive NT Email Solution


 I have a CF site/SQL 7 on a dedicated NT server.

 AM looking for an inexpensive (free?) way to setup POP email -- so that I
 can have up to 30 or so email addresses that map to the domain of
 the site.

 Don't know if anyone has experience that they could share -- suggesting
 something solid, easy to setup, etc.

 TIA

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Including an ASP Script in CFM

2000-08-16 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown


Hi,
I have an ASP script that must be included in a CFM document.  CFinclude
does not work for this purpose.

Is there any way to do this?  I found the following, however, all I get is a
blank screen:

script language="VBScript" src="./link_generalquery2.asp" runat="server"

Anyway, whatever I do, this must run from within a CFM document for security
purposes.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
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CF Performance

2000-08-10 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown


Hi,
I know this comes up a lot... but, I'm looking to drastically improve the
performance of one of our CF servers.  We are in the process of fine tuning
some of our code so that it follows some of Allaire's suggestions on
performance tuning.

One server I'm running has Cold Fusion at 43 megs memory usage, and Inetinfo
at 48 megs.  Is that... normal?

Lastly, I'm wondering, what others are running for server hardware for large
scale applications?

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Verity vs. Freetext

2000-08-08 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown


Hi,
I have a large scale application that will contain a lot of data, and will
require that users do frequent text searches.  I am running SQL Server 7.

Which would be faster - a verity collection, or using SQL 7's Full-text
indexing?  We are probably talking about well over 20,000 individual
records.

Thanks -
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Dynamic Queries in Valuelist

2000-08-07 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown


Hi,
I need to setup a valuelist using a dynamic query.  From what I can tell,
this doesn't seem to be possible.

What I need is a way to drop a list of a varying number of items from a
varying number of queries, and cache all of the results.  Performance is
key.

- Geoff B


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Java WDDX

2000-08-03 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown


Hi,
I'm looking for a way to pull some data from a script on my website using
WDDX.  The client application I am writing is in Java.  I am able to do this
easily in VB, however, VB is a little too bloated for my purposes.

Is there an easy way to use WDDX in Java?  I've heard that it can be done,
but finding support or documentation on it is next to non-existent.

Thanks
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OT: Javascript / DHTML List

2000-07-31 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown




Hi,
This is off topic...

Can anyone recommend a good Javascript / DHTML list for advanced developers?

Thanks,
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Mapping Extensions

2000-07-24 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown


Hi,
Does anyone know the registry entry that needs to be added so that I can
have .htm files executed as cold fusion templates?  I found the way to do it
on PWS, but I can't find the key in IIS.


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Errors when using CFHTTP / WDDX on 4.5

2000-07-12 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown


Hi,
Since I've upgraded to 4.5, using cfhttp with any xml or text templates is
not working.  We now get an error that states that the ascii file that we
are attempting to display is invalid.  To work with the data read from
cfhttp, we need to dump the content to a file, then read it back in.

Is anyone aware of another workaround for this?

Thanks -
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Performance

2000-06-20 Thread Geoffrey V. Brown


Hi,
I'm looking for some advice on tuning SQL Server.  We have a DB that's
(let's say) 100 tables, heavily normalized, with over 250,000 records in at
least 10 primary tables.  For many screens within the application, we need
to do two or three queries, and sometimes quite a few more, all of which
must utilize the primary tables containing the most data.  This obviously
drags the server to its knees very quickly.  The server we are running is
fairly capable (single 500mhz, 512 ram, Win2k), and is dedicated only to SQL
/ DB tasks.  We are considering adding another 500mhz to the server, which
may help.

In a heavily normalized database, what can one do to improve join and sub
query performance?  The queries mostly aggregate data for financial
purposes, so some of this could be stored in a temporary table populated by
a trigger, or something similar.  Cached queries will not work in this
situation.

Help?

Thanks,
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