Re: REVERSE QUESTION --- Is there anything that Cold Fusion can do that ASP can't do?

2000-05-11 Thread John N Westerlund

!-- #INCLUDE FILE="headertemplate.html" --
OR
!-- #INCLUDE FILE="headertemplate.inc" -- !--- asp people name their
extensions .inc for include ---

% 'some asp here
=date()
%


-Original Message-
From: Heather Haindel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 9:03 PM
Subject: RE: REVERSE QUESTION --- Is there anything that Cold Fusion can do
that ASP can't do?


I have yet to find a way to get .asp to duplicate the
functionality of cfinclude. I guess this is supposed
to be fixed w/ the new version (of IIS or ASP?)...

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application hit counter?

2000-05-09 Thread John N Westerlund

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not clear as to the specifics.
Can I just put
CFPARAM NAME=3D"hitcounter" DEFAULT=3D"0"
CFSET hitcounter =3D hitcounter + 1

and use this in another page ie
#application.hitcounter#

Or should I set this in a session variable somewhere

How has everyone else done it?

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Re: REVERSE QUESTION --- Is there anything that Cold Fusion can do that ASP can't do?

2000-05-09 Thread John N Westerlund

CFHTTP is much nicer in Cold Fusion. I believe you have to buy an ASP
Component to do it in ASP.

-Original Message-
From: Leong Yew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Monday, May 08, 2000 11:13 PM
Subject: RE: REVERSE QUESTION --- Is there anything that Cold Fusion can do
that ASP can't do?



But more importantly, how about CF runs on Linux, Solaris and Windows?

But ASP runs on Unix platforms as well through the Chilisoft version...

Nick


At 21:04 8/05/00 -0400, you wrote:
Hi Cold Fusion Users,

Recently, someone asked if there is anything that ASP can do that COLD
FUSION can't do.

Many people responded with some extremely small things.

So, I would like to ask the opposite question:
Is there anything that COLD FUSION can do that ASP can't do?

What about CFOUTPUT tag with the ability to embed #variables#? I think
that's a lot easier to use than ASP's Response.Write method.


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Re: OT - IIF function in Access

2000-05-04 Thread John N Westerlund

I usually see the query coded as:

AND site_date  #date1#
AND site_date  #now()#

Primitive I know, but tried and true :-)


-Original Message-
From: Deanna L. Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, May 04, 2000 3:10 PM
Subject: OT - IIF function in Access


Hi folks, this is a bit OT, but I thought there might be a better way to do
what's not working in CF anyway, so here it is:

I have the following code:
cfset week = #now()# - #createtimespan(7, 0, 0, 0)#
cfset month = #now()# - #createtimespan(30, 0, 0, 0)#
cfset year = #now()# - #createtimespan(365, 0, 0, 0)#

cfquery name="pullcount" datasource="#dbvar#"
SELECT  SUM(totalbirds) AS weekbirds,
  site.per_id, person.fname, person.lname
FROM sighting, site, person
WHERE sighting.site_id = site.site_id
AND  site.per_id = person.per_id
AND  site.site_date between #now()# AND #createodbcdate(month)#
GROUP BY site.per_id, person.fname, person.lname
/cfquery

It works fine, but what I want to do is pull the bird counts for the week,
the month and the year. I think I should be able to do it with something
like:
cfquery name="pullcount" datasource="#dbvar#"
SELECT  IIF(site.site_date between #now()# AND #createodbcdate(month)#,
SUM(totalbirds) AS monthbirds, 0),
  site.per_id, person.fname, person.lname
FROM sighting, site, person
WHERE sighting.site_id = site.site_id
AND  site.per_id = person.per_id
AND  GROUP BY site.per_id, person.fname, person.lname
/cfquery

But, what I get is this lovely error:
[Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Syntax error (missing operator) in
query expression 'IIF(site.site_date between #5/4/2000 14:04:35# AND
#4/4/2000#, SUM(totalbirds) AS monthbirds, 0)'.

Help?

TIA,
Deanna


Deanna Schneider
Interactive Media Developer
UWEX Cooperative Extension Electronic Publishing Group
103 Extension Bldg
432 N. Lake Street
Madison, WI 53706
(608) 265-7923




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Re: IE 4

2000-05-01 Thread John N Westerlund

I would hypothesize because MS and AOL/NSCP streamlined the redirect() call
in IE5 and NS4.06.
Since the CFLOCATION just calls the redirect() and the redirect() is faster
in later editions, it takes less time.


-Original Message-
From: David Clay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Monday, May 01, 2000 8:44 AM
Subject: IE 4


Can any tell me why it takes more time for the CF location path below to
pull up in IE 4.01 and 4.07 than IE 5 and NS 4.06.

Puzzling!

Thank you for your time

This cflocation goes 2 directories down after DC_NAME is found from a query.

cflocation url"../datachunks/#Trim(DC_NAME)#/dcindex.cfm addtoken="no"

Dave Clay
Internet Facilitator
Trus Joist, A Weyerhaeuser Business


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Re: licencing code

2000-04-28 Thread John N Westerlund

Typically a software firm packs an End User Licensing Agreement with their
product. You see it in Microsoft and other code ie
About to Install Cold Fusion Server
Click Here if you agree to the terms of the Licensing Agreement.
Within you define under what terms the user can use the software... I think
standard ones are:
You may not redistribute or copy without the permission of the licenser, and
You may not reverse engineer or disassemble the software in order to build
your own..
(those arent the correct legal terms at all).
There are many terms you can include, so see your lawyer.

As far as what you give to the client when you build a software piece for
them, usually you are selling your client the means and ends of the
software. If you want to keep the means (sounds like you do), you need to
spell it out in the agreement that you are keeping the process of building
the software and they are simply buying the end result. You should really
consult your attorney...

-Original Message-
From: Jim Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Friday, April 28, 2000 6:45 PM
Subject: RE: licencing code


see an attorney

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To: Cf-Talk
Subject: licencing code


What is entailed in licensing your code?  I have a job that unlicensed code
becomes their property – there are some of our code that we don’t want them
to have ---???

-je



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Re: Has this list gone nuts?

2000-04-26 Thread John N Westerlund

If you hit reply all in MS-Outlook it adds two of the same addresses to the
to: which is
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That could be your problem...

-Original Message-
From: Chris Tazewell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: Has this list gone nuts?


Well I figured I'd check with other people to make sure it's not my
mailserver that's going into overdrive.
Sometimes I think that if email forums were fishing areas they'd be rather
profitable.

Taz


 No offense to anyone but if your getting mulitple messages, then
 why not contact the administrator of the list rather than filling up
 the list with repeats of the problem. Basically what your doing is
 filling this list with your complaint but not taking action.

 Sorry, I can not relate cause I am not getting duplicate messages.



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Re: extract attached file from email

2000-04-26 Thread John N Westerlund

Thats really a mail service issue, a function of your mail daemon/server. If
you are using email through webbased form then you can use upload
attachments with CFFILE.

ie
Send mail to: INPUT TYPE="TEXT" VALUE="mailto"
Attach a file: INPUT TYPE="FILE" VALUE="uploadfile"

Then
CFFILE ACTION="UPLOAD"

See the book for arguments...

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From: YungChih Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 1:32 PM
Subject: extract attached file from email


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Hi,
can someone tell me if this could be done!
When system received incoming email, that email has file attached with it,
Can I used ColdFusion to extract that file from the email then save attached
file to other location?

Thank you for any suggestion!

Yungchih

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Re: refreshing

2000-04-25 Thread John N Westerlund

Yes. All your zeros are going away.


-Original Message-
From: mirza baig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, April 24, 2000 10:10 PM
Subject: refreshing


I am outputting a query in the form of a table. I get
all the values initially as 0's. But, when I click
'Refresh', I get all the calculated values and all the
0's go away.

Does someone have any idea?

Thanks A lot


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Re: Can we hide

2000-04-24 Thread John N Westerlund

Not this way but I think we accomplished this by using CFHTTP and CFPARAM or
was it CFFORM and CFPARAM.
Or you can put all the vars in session variables and link to a index.cfm
page with code that CFPARAMs to your other form...

-Original Message-
From: aslam bajaria [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, April 24, 2000 3:15 PM
Subject: Can we hide


If I have a url link as:

a
href="Index.cfm?fuseaction=ProcessformCustomerid=999"Click
here/a to process the form.

Is there a way to hide the information about the
Customer id?

I know it can be done in a form. But can it be done in
a url link?

Appreciate
A.B.

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self-posting form variable help

2000-04-22 Thread John N Westerlund

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Hello, I want to do this (below) but its not working for me.

!--- begin selfpostingform.cfm ---
cfparam name=3D"week_var" default=3D0
cfparam name=3D"dollar_total" default=3D0

cfif isdefined("kids_weekly_salary")
cfset week_var =3D week_var + 1
cfset dollar_total =3D dollar_total + kids_weekly_salary
/cfif
cfif week_var eq 10cflocation url=3D"finish.cfm"/cfif

form method=3D"post' action=3D"selfpostingform.cfm"
input type=3D"text" name=3D"kids_weekly_salary"BR
input type=3D"submit"
/form
!--- end selfpostingform.cfm ---

// Error Message //
An error occurred while evaluating the expression:=20

week_var =3D week_var + 1


Error near line 4, column 9.

TIA

John N Westerlund
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Re: What happened to this list?

2000-04-22 Thread John N Westerlund

That sucks. I guess you get a few bad apples with the tree. Its real
strange... you'd think everyone who was at this level of programming was the
intelligent, high integrity sort.
Hmmph..

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From: Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, April 20, 2000 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: What happened to this list?


 I don't want to keep this thread going but I
think that is
 very wrong of
 someone to insult others on this list, were
all here trying
 to learn from
 one another not insult one another.

Try this one...

Recently I posted a question I had to the list
and no one responded. Not a big deal, everyone
has a life. Today the owner of the company I
work at brought me a copy of an email he
recieved from someone on this list... it
basically said that the programmer he had hired
was unable to accomplish a minor task like the
one I mentioned, and he had, out of the goodness
of his heart, searched out the company to offer
his skills should my company wish to 're-think
the current development staff'.

My boss reminded me that I should be careful of
the people I associate with, and left it at
that. Aren't I lucky!

Marcus
Dr. Marcus Kiel
Director of Development
AdTel International

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Re: What happened to this list?

2000-04-22 Thread John N Westerlund

You may also want to try to deduce who would do this to you. Most of us one
here have no inkling who your boss would be... his email... etc. Do you have
someone at your firm trying to take your place or something?


-Original Message-
From: Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, April 20, 2000 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: What happened to this list?


 I don't want to keep this thread going but I
think that is
 very wrong of
 someone to insult others on this list, were
all here trying
 to learn from
 one another not insult one another.

Try this one...

Recently I posted a question I had to the list
and no one responded. Not a big deal, everyone
has a life. Today the owner of the company I
work at brought me a copy of an email he
recieved from someone on this list... it
basically said that the programmer he had hired
was unable to accomplish a minor task like the
one I mentioned, and he had, out of the goodness
of his heart, searched out the company to offer
his skills should my company wish to 're-think
the current development staff'.

My boss reminded me that I should be careful of
the people I associate with, and left it at
that. Aren't I lucky!

Marcus
Dr. Marcus Kiel
Director of Development
AdTel International

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Re: search results produce everything in the table...

2000-04-13 Thread John N Westerlund

Like so?

cfif isdefined("searchpattern")
cfqueryargs/cfquery
cfoutputoutput/cfoutput
cfelse
bYou did not enter any arguments./b
/cfif


-Original Message-
From: Richard Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, April 13, 2000 11:31 AM
Subject: RE: search results produce everything in the table...


if nothing is typed in I want no results to be returned or
at least no results shown.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Shepler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 11 April 2000 19:14
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: search results produce everything in the table...


 Since the search is only restricted to what you type in, if you leave it
 blank the search is not restricted. Hence the entire table is
 returned. What
 would you like to have happen instead?

 -Original Message-
 From: Richard Hart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 12:23 PM
 To: House of Fusion
 Subject: search results produce everything in the table...


 Hi,

 I have a simple search form on which you can search on three criteria.
 However when I type nothing in the form and hit submit it gives me
 everything in
 the table. I have tried to over-ride this to no effect. Can
 anyone point me
 in the right direction?

 Thanks,

 Richard

 ..

 In the results page I have something like:


 CFQUERY NAME="blahblah" DATASOURCE="blahblah"

blahblah

 CFIF Trim(VariableOne) IS NOT ""
 AND FieldOne LIKE '%#Trim(Form.VariableOne)#%'
 /CFIF

 CFIF Trim(VariableTwo) IS NOT ""
 AND FieldTwo LIKE '%#Trim(Form.VariableTwo)#%'
 /CFIF

 CFIF Trim(VariableThree) IS NOT ""
 AND FieldThree LIKE '%#Trim(Form.VariableThree)#%'
 /CFIF

balhblah

 /CFQUERY


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Re: form processing

2000-04-13 Thread John N Westerlund

Look at the file source of the preceding page for input textarea etc.
There's no way to see server or session variables. You might be able to see
the variables in the URL address of the next page ie
www.somesite.com/index.cfm?method=displaybookid=75author=foofoo
If it's your site, then open the cfm page.


-Original Message-
From: Angie Miner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, April 13, 2000 3:02 PM
Subject: form processing


How can I find out what form variables are being passed to a cfm page?



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Re: going live

2000-04-12 Thread John N Westerlund

Yep, tell one of your underlings to do it
g

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 10:41 AM
Subject: going live


Hello there,

Question: has anybody worked out a system that lets you trigger site
updates from a staging server to production server? Thanks!


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bread crumbs again

2000-04-12 Thread John N Westerlund

I seem to have deleted my previous mails about dynamic bread crumbs...
Basically I am trying to generate
You are here: #section# #subsection# #microsection#
And the content is coming from a DB so I just wanted to see different/best
ways of generating breadcrumbs.
So far I figure its best to assign these session variables in the index and
sub-index pages but the microsection will be dynamic so Im not sure how to
tackle that one.
Thoughts and links please :-)



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Re: bread crumbs again

2000-04-12 Thread John N Westerlund

SQL 7.0

-Original Message-
From: Raftree, Mat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 1:40 PM
Subject: RE: bread crumbs again


What database are you using?

-Original Message-
From: John N Westerlund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 11:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: bread crumbs again


I seem to have deleted my previous mails about dynamic bread crumbs...
Basically I am trying to generate
You are here: #section# #subsection# #microsection#
And the content is coming from a DB so I just wanted to see different/best
ways of generating breadcrumbs.
So far I figure its best to assign these session variables in the index and
sub-index pages but the microsection will be dynamic so Im not sure how to
tackle that one.
Thoughts and links please :-)



John N Westerlund
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http://www.phasezero.com
v: 800.807.7686
v: 703.684.8280 ext. 110
f: 703.684.8316

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Re: CF Talk, calculating elapsed time

2000-04-10 Thread John N Westerlund

I think you can capture #date(now)# in the session, and #date(now)# when the
session ends.
And parse it from there...

-Original Message-
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To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, April 10, 2000 2:03 PM
Subject: CF Talk, calculating elapsed time


To all,
I'm looking for some ideas on how to implement a timer that tracks
customer time on site.

Situation - customer logs in, goes to study pages, at the point of login
I start the timer.  After a ten minute increment the 10 minutes are
added to the totaltime in the user database.  posting may be automatic
or through submit button.  if user leaves during the next 10 minute
increment, nothing is posted to the database.

approaches to date include:
serveral forms of
cfset  Client.ETHours = Abs(DateDiff("h",Client.TimeCreated,
Client.LastVisit)) 
the problem is that 'timecreated' gives a start date but is a static
value that will allow for total time from when the account is
generated.  'lastvisit' appears to be updated everytime the user comes
back to the page rather than just at login.

Have also considered client session variable storage.  The variables
appear in the database but are all in one field separated by # signs.  I
am looking for something cleaner.

Need - idea that allows a timer function to kick off at login and then
continue to run as long as they are on site in ten minute increments.
The timer is not the issue (I can use a simple loop ), where to
establish it is and how to use it accross the entire session and site
is.

any comments would be appreciated
Thanks
Richard
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looking for a message board tag

2000-04-06 Thread John N Westerlund

Has anyone made a message board tag or set of tags for CF? I thought I saw
one but dont remember where.
Thanks

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Re: Security holes revisited

2000-04-06 Thread John N Westerlund

Kind of makes you wonder, if its legal to shoot someone trespassing on your
property, then what is the electronic equivalent? g


-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, April 06, 2000 11:04 AM
Subject: RE: Security holes revisited


 I disagree.  Your open ports are your "interface" to the
 world. Is it wrong for me to test one port?  That's essentially
 what I'd do if I tried typing http://yoursite.com/ in by browser.
 Two, what if I fingered your box when I found we were[n't]
 running a webserver.  If one or two ports are legit, why not
 three, four, ... or 65k?

The difference is one of degree, not of kind, and one of perceived intent.
If you connect to one port, using an HTTP client, you're trying to retrieve
HTML documents from a web server. If you do a port scan, what's your intent?
You're obviously not interested in using a specific service, are you?

The problem is determining intent and malice, but in the "real world" we
solve that problem all the time. We determine intent based on the observed
behavior of the potential bad actor. Why should it be any different for
things we do with computers? If I see someone walking through the
neighborhood rattling all the doorknobs, shouldn't I assume the worst?

 Slippery slope, yes.  But you could make the argument that
 it's unethical to try to connect to a machine on port 80 if
 it hasn't been "advertized" as a web server.

It certainly may be unethical. Again, it goes back to intent. If I use ONE
SINGLE PORT with the intent of penetrating the system, that's unethical -
unless it's my own system. However, no one will be able to tell that I've
got bad intentions if I connect to just one port.

 I guess the best real-world analogy is walking through an office and
 turning door knobs to see which are or aren't locked. Of course,
 real-world analogies are pretty flawed, but this one isn't too bad. To
 qualify for "looking in the clothes hamper" status, I think you'd have
 to actually comprimise the system to some degree.  You can't look in a
 hamper just by trying the doorknob, and seeing what happens.

Again, if I see someone walking through the office, trying all the
doorknobs, I'm going to assume bad intent, all other things being equal.

And, why do you say that real-world analogies are flawed? I happen to live
in the real world, and the ideas that we live by all come from the real
world. We've got nothing but real-world analogies to go by, in determining
right and wrong in the computer world. Why should property rights disappear
when it comes to computers?

It's very important that we use real-world analogies; it's also important
that we find the closest analogy. That's how we determine whether an act is
right or wrong. People in our profession need to spend a little more time
doing this, or the legislators will do it themselves, and their analogies
might not be any good.

 Oh, and about the locksmith scenerio, let's rephrase it so he
 doesn't enter and leave a note. He picks the lock, opens the
 door (maybe not even), closes it, locks it, leaves, and calls
 later to leave voicemail.

Well, then, I guess that's OK. However, if he was doing this at night, and I
assumed the worst, and when he pushed the door open I let him have both
barrels, that would be OK too. Or, let's suppose I was out, and I came back
and saw him busy at work picking the lock. Should I wait for him to finish,
and write his note?

Picking a lock to show its weaknesses, or compromising a site to show its
weaknesses, is wrong, unless it's your lock or your site. It's as simple as
that. Now, you'd certainly want to differentiate between compromising and
scanning; if the locksmith looked at the lock, and said, "Oh, that's one of
those cheap Taiwanese locks - I could pick that in 30 seconds" that would be
a scan. If he takes his credit card and slips it into the door jamb to open
the door, he's compromised your security. Even if his intent was good, how
would I know at the time he did it? We generally judge perceived intent at
the time of the act - if the police saw him, and he said, "I'm sorry,
officer, but I just wanted to demonstrate the weakness of this lock" I don't
think they'd buy it.

 In my original post, I neglected the "post publicly" clause.
 I agree that it's wrong to do that. Locksmith putting up a
 sign in the yard is a good analogy. The proper thing to do
 (regarless of whether the initial survey is proper or not)
 would be to contact a sysadmin discreetly.

 I once discovered a CF site (see, on topic! almost) that was
 vulnerable to the ::$DATA IIS problem. I took his index.cfm
 and emailed it to him, with some explanation and a couple of
 links. I received a nice thank you note, which I thought was
 appropriate. Your attitude makes me feel like I should have
 kept my mouth shut for fear of p[ros|ers]ecution.

No, I don't think there's anything wrong with 

Re: Security holes revisited -- reward offered

2000-04-05 Thread John N Westerlund

Not to mention he has access to his boss's house and could just rummage
around for a password...

-Original Message-
From: Reuben King [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 11:58 PM
Subject: RE: Security holes revisited -- reward offered


I agree. The fact that this kid so arrogantly made this "wager" highly

...deletia...

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Re: Security holes revisited -- reward offered

2000-04-04 Thread John N Westerlund

I would check your logs too. if you can find out where he is coming from,
just sitebanish him.

-Original Message-
From: Craig M. Rosenblum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 3:00 PM
Subject: RE: Security holes revisited -- reward offered


i would check out grc.com and zonelabs.com
they have some security checking systems...

And it can do a full scan of your system and give you free software...



 -Original Message-
 From: Nick Call [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 10:44 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Security holes revisited -- reward offered


 Ok, fellow Listees, here's the deal...


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How do i build dynamic navigation

2000-04-04 Thread John N Westerlund

Hi. Im working on an intranet employee database like so:
id:name:position:fun_info
1:george:president:won the colonial war
2:nolan:pitcher:fast pitcher
3:ben:cf developer:doesnt like sunlight

I can display the info on a page but I would like to have
back and next buttons at the bottom where back filters through the previous
record in the recordset
(assume we SELECT * FROM table)

Has anyone done this before or have an idea how I would do that?



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outlook question

2000-04-03 Thread John N Westerlund

Whats the max num of messages outlook will hold before it dies?

alternatively;

has anyone's outlook/computer died from too many cf_talk messages?

grin

John, who has not deleted any cf_talk messages yet.


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Re: Combining Cf and ASP in the same Template

2000-04-03 Thread John N Westerlund

I dont think you want to use them in the same template, its more like you
can have index.asp pass a form/variables to register.cfm. I dont think CF
server interprets ASP and I doubt IIS interprets CF.
I learned ASP first, but CF can do most everything that ASP can... Unless
you're doing some major programming, you can convert all to CF fairly
rapidly and easily.



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From: Eric Sheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Monday, April 03, 2000 9:54 AM
Subject: Combining Cf and ASP in the same Template


Is it possible to combine Cf and ASP in the same template?  If so, are
there any "gotchas" I need to be aware of?

Thanks,
Eric


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Re: outlook question

2000-04-03 Thread John N Westerlund

900 mb? Lordy!! Thanks to everyone who answered. I only have about 2000
messages currently. I figure I should be okay for a while.

John


-Original Message-
From: Eron Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, April 03, 2000 1:56 PM
Subject: RE: outlook question


John,

I am not so sure there's an official proclaimed limit, but as a matter of
fact, my Outlook 2000 mailbox died just last Friday.  You may be able to get
it back with the "inbox repair tool" "Scanpst.exe" which you'll find either
on your local harddrive or on your Outlook CD.

My .PST file was over 900 megs.  After this fiasco last week, I have new
policy of deleting, archiving and compacting.  I'm down to 500 megs.  I was
very unhappy to get rid of 1/2 of my CFTALK messages.

One of those things...

Cheers,

Eron


-Original Message-
From: John N Westerlund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 10:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: outlook question


Whats the max num of messages outlook will hold before it dies?

alternatively;

has anyone's outlook/computer died from too many cf_talk messages?

grin

John, who has not deleted any cf_talk messages yet.



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Re: same form-based page for edit and display?

2000-04-03 Thread John N Westerlund

I just saw a web page with a black bg for input type="text" so yes that is
an option.

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Date: Monday, April 03, 2000 4:36 PM
Subject: same form-based page for edit and display?


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I'm writing an app in cold fusion that has users who are in different
roles and who may be viewing some data they dhouldn't edit or may be
editing that data, depending on the role and situation.

I'm trying to write it in such a way that I use on cfm page that
has the option set in a flag whether to be read only.

Right now it is a form with a onClick function used in each field
that either does nothing or does a blur() and pops a message "you can't
edit"(basically).

I'd like to make it look better or at least different when it is in
read-only mode - for instance have it not be a form field but just some
text, or a form field of a different color (is that possible)?

Any advice would be appreciated.


John Holland
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Re: IIS 4.0 on Win98?

2000-03-31 Thread John N Westerlund

PWS for win98
IIS for NT server

IIS is a commerce level application
and win98 is not a commerce level application, which is where you would run
into the most errors.

-Original Message-
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Date: Friday, March 31, 2000 2:01 PM
Subject: OT: IIS 4.0 on Win98?


Can IIS 4 run on windows 98, or do I have to use personal web server?
Thanks for any feedback.

Thomas J. Morgan
Information Delivery Systems
Research Triangle Institute
3040 Cornwallis Rd.
RTP, NC  27709
(919) 541-7414
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Re: being lazy, looking for easy way out

2000-03-30 Thread John N Westerlund

Hey that would be a good tag. Send me one.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, March 30, 2000 11:28 AM
Subject: being lazy, looking for easy way out


I was wondering if anyone has written a custom tag that does remote server
monitoring.  What I am looking for is a setup that will work like What's Up
Gold, pinging a service or requesting a page at designated time intervals.
It would email a system admin if the ping fails or errors are returned.

If this doesn't exist, how many of you would be interested in the free tag?
I will take the time to write it if interest is high.

Feedback is wanted.

Nick Call
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.accessutah.com



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Re: Duplicate Values in a query

2000-03-30 Thread John N Westerlund

I just recieved the answer to this one and now I cant find the copy that
I've saved...
The gist is that you have to use
SELECT SUM(username) FROM table GROUP BY username
but I too would enjoy seeing the solution again.


-Original Message-
From: Lincoln Manning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, March 30, 2000 4:43 PM
Subject: Duplicate Values in a query


I would like to find a way to isolate duplicate values that I get from a
query.  Can someone help me?  I tried to put all the values into a list,
but I am not sure how to only get the duplicate values.


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images and/or OLE objects or objects in database

2000-03-30 Thread John N Westerlund

Does anyone know a good resource to find out general background for how
images and/or (OLE/normal) objects are stored in a database, and how to
extract,update,delete them?
Thanks

-Original Message-
From: Mike Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, March 30, 2000 5:47 PM
Subject: RE: CF4.5 doesn't support Win2000 file encryption?


Actually, IIS does NOT "shove the .cfm file to the CF parser sight unseen"

IIS never touches .cfm files unless it's mis-configured, or has been told to
check for the file's existence before handing the request off. (Even then it
does not actually open the file, it just looks for it.). Why do you think CF
has its own 404 error pages?

When IIS gets a request for a file ending in .cfm, it passes the *request*
to CF. CF opens the file all by it's lonesome. You can prove this by running
CF under a user account and giving CF permission tot he files, but not IIS.
(or the other way around if you like errors)

Michael J. Sheldon
Internet Applications Developer
Phone: 480.699.1084
http://www.desertraven.com/
PGP Key Available on Request

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Beer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 14:22
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CF4.5 doesn't support Win2000 file encryption?


It's not CF that doesn't support on the-fly-decrypting, it's the web server.
IIS just shoves the .cfm file to the CF parser sight unseen.  Of course CF
chokes on the encrypted file - it look like garbage to the CF server.  Same
with ASP, Perl, Tango, what have you.

MS would need to build support for on-the-fly decryption into IIS.  I hope
they don't, as it would incur far too much overhead.  What seems to be
transparent to you when using MSWord or something becomes a huge issue when
multiplied by thousands of page hits.

The real issue here is why would you want to use that form of encryption
anyway? With the proper permissions set on NT, your code is safe.

- Original Message -
From: "Mike Amburn" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Cf-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 3:46 PM
Subject: CF4.5 doesn't support Win2000 file encryption?


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 support this, as I get the following error on any page that I encrypt:

 The template file exists, however, it either cannot be opened for reading,
 or it is encrypted and its data has been corrupted

 as soon as i unencrypt, all things are good to go.

 anyone heard anything about this? is allaire going to fix this in a
service
 patch?

 Mike Amburn
 Application Development

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Re: CFMail issues

2000-03-29 Thread John N Westerlund

You may want to check with your mail provider as a lot of them now block
certain mails depending on where they originate from, the from address
domain, etc. Our last one did this, generally as a precaution to stop
spammers from using it as a relay for spam.

-Original Message-
From: Childress, Emily [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 8:28 AM
Subject: RE: CFMail issues


I ran into the same problem with our setup. The mail server didn't like
addresses outside of our domain as the FROM: address. It had something to do
with our mail server, not CF the work-around was to only allow a from
address within our domain.

-e

-Original Message-
From: Jay Wigginton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 4:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CFMail issues


I have come upon this error and found it to be related to information in the
database that I was querying email address from the email address field
had some invalid email addresses in them... some had spaces and others were
phone number... I removed the invalid email addresses from the database and
my cfmail query worked just fine...  worked for me at least  G

jay

-Original Message-
From: John Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 2:00 PM
To: Cf-Talk@Houseoffusion. Com
Subject: CFMail issues


Hi,
Im having weirdness using cfmail on our installation on NT
I get this error:
unknown exception condition

TagCFMail::sendMessage

The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of
(CFMAIL), occupying document position (9:1) to (9:105) in the template file

Has anyone seen this?




John J. Tierney
Web Application Developer 
Information Artist
Dreamscape Online LLC.
315.437.4166
http://www.dreamscape.com



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