RE: Dynamic Form Selects and Posting Troubles

2006-03-17 Thread PINE Phyo Z
Hi Mark,

Sorry for replying late. I just got a chance to go over the CF-Talk
posts. I don't know whether I understand your problem right or not. But
probably using Arrays (or Structs) might solve your problem? I would do
something like this when calling CFC: 

cfset userValue = ArrayNew(2)
cfset count = 0

cfloop query=qUsers
 cfset userValue[count][1] = A#moduleID# !--- I don't know you
still want to pad A in front ---
 cfset userValue[count][2] = FORM[moduleID]   
 cfinvokeargument name=#userValue[count][1]#
value=#userValue[count][2]# /cfloop It would look like A155 = 3
(moduleID) = (permissionID)
 cfset count = count + 1  
---

 I think you get my drift. And I would do the appropriate in CFC as
well. Please let me know if that helps at all.

Thanks  Regards,
Pine

-Original Message-
From: Mark Leder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 2:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Dynamic Form Selects and Posting Troubles


Hi all,
I've been pulling out my hair on this one over the last two days and I'm
stumped.
 
On a form page I have a series of drop down select boxes, dynamically
produced and named.  The name of each select (moduleID) is a
three-digit number. So I could have FORM.133, FORM.147, FORM.155 and so
on. The permission ID value is numeric 1 thru 5.  
 
I pull the recordset from a db and create the fieldnames and drop downs,
like so (which works):
 
cfloop query=qUsers
  cfset FORM[moduleID] = qUsers.permissionID
/cfloop
 
It would look like FORM.155 = 3  (moduleID) = (permissionID)
 
 
table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=3
 cfloop query=qUsers
 tr
  tdstrong#moduleName#/strong/td
  td
   select name=#moduleID#
 option value=1 cfif FORM[moduleID] EQ 1selected/cfif (1) No
Access/option
 cfif qUsers.moduleID NEQ 133
  option value=2 cfif FORM[moduleID] EQ 2selected/cfif (2)
View Only/option
  option value=3 cfif FORM[moduleID] EQ 3selected/cfif (3)
View-Edit/option
  option value=4 cfif FORM[moduleID] EQ 4selected/cfif (4)
View-Add-Edit/option
 /cfif
 option value=5 cfif FORM[moduleID] EQ 5selected/cfif (5)
Complete Access/option
   /select
  /td
 /tr
 /cfloop
/table
 
Next I want to send the form fields to a cfc for db posting. So in my
cfinvoke I loop through the FORM vars, like so: (Notice that I'm
forced to prepend an A in front of the cfinvokeargument name - the cfc
throws an error if arguments have names beginning with
numbers)
 
cfloop query=qUsers
 cfinvokeargument name=A#moduleID# value=#FORM[moduleID]#
/cfloop It would look like A155 = 3  (moduleID) = (permissionID)
 
 
Here's the real problem, trying to update an existing table with this
data. In the CFC, the qPermissionCount gives me a count of how many rows
have unique module numbers (in this case 3).
 
cfquery name=qPermissionCount datasource=#REQUEST.dsnSQL#
username=#REQUEST.dsnUID# password=#REQUEST.dsnPWD#  SELECT
U.userID, P.*  
 FROM #SESSION.companyInfo.companyTablePrefix#_Users_List U, 
 
#SESSION.companyInfo.companyTablePrefix#_Users_List_UserModulesPermissio
ns P

 WHERE U.userID = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_char
value=#ARGUMENTS.userID# 
   AND  U.userID = P.userID 
/cfquery 
 
 
Now, I can't seem to figure out how to loop for 3 records, and match up
the FORM.A155 with the db record of 155 in order to update the
permission level (1 thru 5).  It's the SET that's the problem.  Notice
that the ARGUMENTS.a101 could be any number from A101 to A160.  I can
find which three numbers are being updated from the qPermissionCount
recordset.
 
cfquery name=updOBJ2 datasource=#REQUEST.dsnSQL#
username=#REQUEST.dsnUID# password=#REQUEST.dsnPWD#  UPDATE
#SESSION.companyInfo.companyTablePrefix#_Users_List_UserModulesPermissio
ns 

  SET permissionID = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_integer
value=#ARGUMENTS.A101#  

  WHERE userID = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_char
value=#ARGUMENTS.userID# 
 AND moduleID = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_integer
value=#qPermissionCount.moduleID#
 /cfif
/cfquery
 
 
Thanks,
Mark
 






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RE: Createquery and numbers that are strings

2006-03-10 Thread PINE Phyo Z
May be I am over-simplifying your problem but adding empty string ()
might solve?? Just curious what data type is SSN being returned from the
query (number ,integer , string)? 

Pine

-Original Message-
From: Robert Everland III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 10:01 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Createquery and numbers that are strings


I am creating a huge structure so that I can get data from many
different tables that I can't join (don't ask long story). The key of my
structure is a SSN, now I need to order the records to be in
alphabetical on the name, i can't use the name as the key since some
people could potentially have the same name. So I came up with a way to
loop through the key and get the name and put them into a query I create
(you still with me). Now I do a dump of that query and it loses any 0's
in front and treats it as a number. Even when I use javacast. The only
way I have found to get by this is to put a letter in front of the SSN.
Anyone have another solution to this?



Bob



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RE: Createquery and numbers that are strings

2006-03-10 Thread PINE Phyo Z
The obvious work around will be assign a new variable and put the empty
string + SSN. In that way, you don't need to take out the empty space
from your structure. But depending on how you are going to use it,
maintaining two variables instead of one might drive your mad.

So, the other option that I can think of right now is find out which
table or query give you back the SSN as number and when you get the
value use the NumberFormat(SSN, 0) and padded the zeros..


Regards,
Pine

-Original Message-
From: Robert Everland III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 10:40 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Createquery and numbers that are strings


I could try putting an empty string in front, but even if that works I
would still have to take out the empty space later because I still need
the ssn for the primary key of the structure. The SSN is returned as a
string.



Bob



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Updating Application.cfc without the restart

2006-03-10 Thread PINE Phyo Z
Hi all,

 Is there a way to update the application.cfc (onApplicationStart
function in particular) without restarting the CF server or services?

Thanks in advance.

Pine


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RE: Updating Application.cfc without the restart

2006-03-10 Thread PINE Phyo Z
Thanks a lot, Nick. I tested it and it works really great..

Pine

-Original Message-
From: Nick Han [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 4:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Updating Application.cfc without the restart


cfset this.applicationTimeout = createTimeSpan(1,0,0,0)

cfif isDefined(url.restartApp)
cfset this.applicationTimeout=createTimeSpan(0,0,0,0)
/cfif

-Original Message-
From: PINE Phyo Z [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 3:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Updating Application.cfc without the restart

Hi all,

 Is there a way to update the application.cfc (onApplicationStart
function in particular) without restarting the CF server or services?

Thanks in advance.

Pine






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RE: cfajax vs ajaxCFC Question.

2006-03-09 Thread PINE Phyo Z
I haven't tried CFAJAX, so I don't know the answer to your question. But
may be you might want to have a look at : JSMX
(http://www.lalabird.com/) (or is it too late for you to consider
another API) ?? I found it much easier to set up and use than ajaxCFC.
May be it is just my preference.

Regards,
Pine

-Original Message-
From: Nick Han [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 10:56 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cfajax vs ajaxCFC Question.


I have used both of these APIs in my test environment.  I think they
both work well.  There are pros and cons in choosing one over the other,
and most of these issues I encountered were minor.  For instance,
ajaxCFC is easier to set up, but the thing I don't like about it is the
passed parameters are transformed and received as array arguments by the
CFCs.  As for CFAJAX it is more work to set up, I like the fact that
arguments are received by functions the way there have been passed by
the calling page.  So you keep variable naming in tact for
self-documenting and easy debugging.  Also with CFAJAX you can't use it
within CFC framework.  So there's a mixed bag of good and bad between
the two.

 

I am about to pick one of these APIs and use it in my production
environment and I want to hear your opinions from those of you who have
used it extensively.  I would like to hear your advice on what to watch
out for under each and which one would you recommend if you have worked
with both.  Thanks.

 

 

 

 





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RE: PDF Upload Problems

2006-03-07 Thread PINE Phyo Z
I remembered reading something like it in Ben Forta's book (CFMX7 Web
Application Construction Kit) and I went back and searched. This is what
I found:

 ...illustrates one of Internet Explorer 6's policies. Unlike most
other browsers, it thinks the file
extension-and the format of the actual content itself-is more important
than the specified content
type. The content type considered only if the file extension doesn't
have an associated program, or
when there is no file extension.

To get consistent behavior with IE, add a content-disposition header to
the page request, using a
cfheader tag, such as the following. The cfheader tag is the way
ColdFusion enables you to
send custom HTTP headers back to the browser, along with the content
your template generates.
You would add this line right before the cfcontent line in Listing
33.3:
cfheader
name=Content-Disposition
value=filename=films

So, I guess you can use Content-Disposition tag somewhere? I am not
exactly sure though..Just a thought.

Regards,
Pine

-Original Message-
From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 1:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: PDF Upload Problems


I don't personally have a pdf generator, but I can reproduce it with an
excel file, for example. It only happens with IE, though - Firefox
correctly figures out the mime type. But, if you open an excel file with
Microsoft Excel, and then try to upload it via your web page and IE,
you'll discover that it thinks it's an application/octet-stream.


On 3/6/06, Mike Chabot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Deanna,
 Thank you for the information. Is there a way to reproduce this 
 problem, since I cannot seem to do so?

 I did some further testing and it appears that CFMX, for the most 
 part, is determining the MIME-type from the file extension, since I am

 able to add .pdf to any file type to get it past the application/pdf 
 mime type restriction.

 Thank you,
 Mike Chabot

 On 3/6/06, Deanna Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Application/octet-stream is what you'll get if the pdf is open on 
  their system when they try to upload it. I don't know of a really 
  great work around, other than catching that particular error and 
  telling them to be sure to close it before uploading it.
 
  On 3/6/06, Mike Chabot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   We have a file upload form that only accepts PDF files. A very 
   small percentage of people have tried to upload files that end in 
   .pdf, but CFMX 6.1 rejects them because they have MIME types of 
   application/octet-stream or application/unknown. Since these 
   files could not be uploaded, I am not sure if these files are 
   legitimate PDFs, so I would like to know if anyone else has 
   experience with this, or if there is some advice I can give to the

   people experiencing these problems? At what stage of the upload 
   process does the MIME-type get associated with the file?
  
   Thank you,
   Mike Chabot

 



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RE: OOP, why me?

2006-03-07 Thread PINE Phyo Z
Hi Gareth,

As long as you are the only one developer who codes and maintain the
application till its sunset and the code reuser is only you (you are
using your own code so you know where to find one), then you do not need
the OOP. As long as your code is modular (not OOP) and you don't forget
what you have coded or done, you are pretty well on your way without
OOP. 

Otherwise, OOP will benefit you.

Thanks  Regards,
Pine

-Original Message-
From: Gareth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 8:40 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OOP, why me?


I'm the sort of person who likes to understand why I'm doing something 
rather than just do it. If I download a UDF I analyse it and try to
learn 
rather than just stick it into my app and smile because it's worked.
With 
that in mind, I wonder if someone could explain to me in super simple, 
beginer speak, layman terms what Object Oriented Programming means in
terms 
of CF and why I should use it?

My very basic understanding is that you have different 'layers' to
perform 
different tasks, so when someone visits mygroovyform.cfm the processing 
behind the form is not done on the form page itself but passed to
another 
page which then passes back the results. The back end processing is then

done using components (cfc's).

I know that's a very simplified explanation but hopefully it's true in 
principle. I've written a few very simple CFC's more for the sake of it
than 
because I understood the need. The main arguments I've heard for using
this 
approach is that it's good for code re-use and promotes clean coding.
But 
what I can't get my head around is why? I mean, code isn't necessarily 
unclean because it's not built using this approach and can't code just
as 
easily be reused using a cfmodule or even a cfinclude? I've also heard
it's 
good in a multi-developer environment, but I'm only me so perhaps there 
isn't a practical reason for me to learn it at all?

I've read a lot on the subject and I'd like to read more but it's
difficult 
to enthuse myself without understanding what the real end benefit is.

scratches_headModel glue, mach ii, fusebox, etc. I'm sure there's a
bloody 
good reason for 'em but what is it?/scratches_head

Words of wisdom / good reading (including book recommendations) most 
appreciated.

Many thanks

Gareth 




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RE: OOP, why me?

2006-03-07 Thread PINE Phyo Z
[quote = Mike]

CFCs are simply magic.  Whoever thought of
them deserves a nobel prize.

[/quote]

Well, Mike that depends on who you are talking to. (Personally, I like
CFCs and I think they are really great.) But when CF start coming out,
it boasts as (and it is true) simple yet powerful server side language.
With a line or two in CF can accomplish the same thing with more lines
of codes in other programming language (like Java for example). Anyway,
that was the reason I started learning CF in CF 4 days.

But with CFCs and OO introduced into CF, CF is starting to sound like
Java (more like J2EE actually). And people who shams from OO languages
because of their complexity choose ColdFusion in the first place, but
not they face the somewhat similar complexities that is introduced into
CF. That confuses a lot of old-timers of CF. 

In a way, there will always be push and pull with OO paradigm. Who wins
and who lose, only time will tell I guess. Meanwhile, I think we mere
mortal developers have to choose what is the best for our own situation.


Thanks  Regards,
Pine

-Original Message-
From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 4:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OOP, why me?


Now you have a reason, Rick.   CFCs are simply magic.  Whoever thought
of
them deserves a nobel prize.

CFMX is a whole 'nother world of excitement and thrills.Well ok .
..maybe
it's not exactly Disney World but it's a lot better than the older
versions.   I had to do a job on CF5 not so long ago and there were SO
many
things I missed that have become second nature to me now.

Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month



On 3/7/06, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Guess I'll have to wait...still using 4.5.2...I still
 haven't found a compelling reason to upgrade.

 Rick






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CF Round Behavior

2006-02-14 Thread PINE Phyo Z
Hi all,

 I have a question on Round() function behavior of CF. When I do
#Round(35.5)#, it will give me 36 but when I do #Round(-35.5)#, it will
give me -35. But when I give #Round(-35.6)#, it will give me -36. So I
am just wondering is it a bug or is that suppose to be that way?

Thanks  Regards,
Pine

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RE: cftry and cfcatch

2006-02-08 Thread PINE Phyo Z
I'm guessing here but I think your two queries are using stored
procedures. So, use cfstoredproc to check the return values. Then, your
first issue will be resolved. Then use nested cftry and cfcatch for each
stored proc to resolve the second issue.

So probably something like this:

cftry 

!--- Set the variable for your second issue here. ---
cfset notRunQuery = 0 
cfset problemQueryNumber = 0

 cftry
cfstoredproc name=checksrv datasource=master
returnCode=YES result=storedProc1Return
SELECT @@SERVICENAME;
/cfstoredproc


 cfcatch type = database

cfset notRunQuery = notRunQuery + 1 
cfset problemQueryNumber = 1

cfthrow type = yourOwnError

 /cfcatch

 /cftry

 cftry
cfstoredproc name=checkage datasource=master
returnCode=YES result=storedProc2Return
SELECT count (program_name)
FROM master.dbo.sysprocesses
WITH (NOLOCK)
WHERE program_name LIKE '%Agent%'
/cfstoredproc


 cfcatch type = database

cfset notRunQuery = notRunQuery + 1 
cfset problemQueryNumber = 2

!--- Throw your own error for the outermost cfcatch to catch
---
cfthrow type = yourOwnError

 /cfcatch

 /cftry

 cfcatch type =yourOwnError

cfif notRunQuery is 2

 !--- Send MSSQLSERVER Not Avail and Agent Not Avail in
cfmail. ---

  cfelseif notRunQuery is 1
cfif problemQueryNumber = 1 
!--- Send MSSQLSERVER Not Avail in cfmail.
---
cfelseif problemQueryNumber = 2
 !--- Send Agent Not Avail in cfmail. ---
/cfif
/cfif 

 /cfcatch 
/cftry

!--- 
Check the errors(return values) with from two stored
procedures. 
Do CFMail here by checking two return structs
(storedProc1Return and storedProc2Return) 
---



HTH,

Pine

-Original Message-
From: John Lucania [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 6:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cftry and cfcatch


I have two queries:

cfquery name=checksrv datasource=master
SELECT @@SERVICENAME;
/cfquery

cfquery name=checkage datasource=master
SELECT count (program_name)
FROM master.dbo.sysprocesses
WITH (NOLOCK)
WHERE program_name LIKE '%Agent%'
/cfquery

I want to be notified through cfmail if

1)
query checksrv doesn't return MSSQLSERVER
 then,  MSSQLSERVER not returned in cfmail
or
query checkage doesn't return 2
 then, Agent not returned 2 in cfmail
or
both of checksrv and checkage  don't return
 then, MSSQLSERVER not returned and Agent not returned 2 in
cfmail or

2)
query checksrv cannot be run
 then, MSSQLSERVER Not Avail in cfmail
or
query checkage cannot be run
 then, Agent Not Avail in cfmail
or
both of checksrv and checkage cannot be run
 then, MSSQLSERVER Not Avail and Agent Not Avail in cfmail.

Any ideas?

tia,

jl



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RE: cftry and cfcatch

2006-02-08 Thread PINE Phyo Z
I was in a hurry when I typed the previous response and found a glitch
in the logic. In the inner cfcatch blocks, I am throwing the errors. So,
whenever there is a problem, the yourOwnError exception will be
thrown. That means you will never see  Send MSSQLSERVER Not Avail and
Agent Not Avail in cfmail. 

To resolve that, at the top of my head, just remove the cfthrow tags
in the cfcatch blocks. Handle it outside the cftry and cfcatch. I don't
think you would even need to nest the cftry anymore. So, the revised
version will be like this:

!--- Set the variable for your second issue here. ---
cfset notRunQuery = 0 
cfset problemQueryNumber = 0

 cftry
cfstoredproc name=checksrv datasource=master
returnCode=YES result=storedProc1Return
SELECT @@SERVICENAME;
/cfstoredproc


 cfcatch type = database

cfset notRunQuery = notRunQuery + 1 
cfset problemQueryNumber = 1

 /cfcatch

 /cftry

 cftry
cfstoredproc name=checkage datasource=master
returnCode=YES result=storedProc2Return
SELECT count (program_name)
FROM master.dbo.sysprocesses
WITH (NOLOCK)
WHERE program_name LIKE '%Agent%'
/cfstoredproc


 cfcatch type = database

cfset notRunQuery = notRunQuery + 1 
cfset problemQueryNumber = 2


 /cfcatch

 /cftry


cfif notRunQuery is 2

 !--- Send MSSQLSERVER Not Avail and Agent Not Avail in
cfmail. ---

  cfelseif notRunQuery is 1
cfif problemQueryNumber = 1 
!--- Send MSSQLSERVER Not Avail in cfmail.
---
cfelseif problemQueryNumber = 2
 !--- Send Agent Not Avail in cfmail. ---
/cfif
/cfif 



!--- 
Check the errors(return values) with from two stored
procedures. 
Do CFMail here by checking two return structs
(storedProc1Return and storedProc2Return) 
---


-Original Message-
From: PINE Phyo Z 
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 8:53 AM
To: 'cf-talk@houseoffusion.com'
Subject: RE: cftry and cfcatch


I'm guessing here but I think your two queries are using stored
procedures. So, use cfstoredproc to check the return values. Then, your
first issue will be resolved. Then use nested cftry and cfcatch for each
stored proc to resolve the second issue.

So probably something like this:

cftry 

!--- Set the variable for your second issue here. ---
cfset notRunQuery = 0 
cfset problemQueryNumber = 0

 cftry
cfstoredproc name=checksrv datasource=master
returnCode=YES result=storedProc1Return
SELECT @@SERVICENAME;
/cfstoredproc


 cfcatch type = database

cfset notRunQuery = notRunQuery + 1 
cfset problemQueryNumber = 1

cfthrow type = yourOwnError

 /cfcatch

 /cftry

 cftry
cfstoredproc name=checkage datasource=master
returnCode=YES result=storedProc2Return
SELECT count (program_name)
FROM master.dbo.sysprocesses
WITH (NOLOCK)
WHERE program_name LIKE '%Agent%'
/cfstoredproc


 cfcatch type = database

cfset notRunQuery = notRunQuery + 1 
cfset problemQueryNumber = 2

!--- Throw your own error for the outermost cfcatch to catch
---
cfthrow type = yourOwnError

 /cfcatch

 /cftry

 cfcatch type =yourOwnError

cfif notRunQuery is 2

 !--- Send MSSQLSERVER Not Avail and Agent Not Avail in
cfmail. ---

  cfelseif notRunQuery is 1
cfif problemQueryNumber = 1 
!--- Send MSSQLSERVER Not Avail in cfmail.
---
cfelseif problemQueryNumber = 2
 !--- Send Agent Not Avail in cfmail. ---
/cfif
/cfif 

 /cfcatch 
/cftry

!--- 
Check the errors(return values) with from two stored
procedures. 
Do CFMail here by checking two return structs
(storedProc1Return and storedProc2Return) 
---



HTH,

Pine

-Original Message-
From: John Lucania [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 6:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cftry and cfcatch


I have two queries:

cfquery name=checksrv datasource=master
SELECT @@SERVICENAME;
/cfquery

cfquery name=checkage datasource=master
SELECT count (program_name)
FROM master.dbo.sysprocesses
WITH (NOLOCK)
WHERE program_name LIKE '%Agent%'
/cfquery

I want to be notified through cfmail if

1)
query checksrv doesn't return MSSQLSERVER
 then,  MSSQLSERVER not returned in cfmail
or
query checkage doesn't return 2
 then, Agent not returned 2 in cfmail
or
both of checksrv

RE: input box selection

2006-02-07 Thread PINE Phyo Z
Yep. And I tested it and it seems like your div Layer4 is giving the
problem. If you comment out the following portion in your code, it all
seems well. You might want to re-code that part.


div id=Layer4 style=position:absolute; left:350px; top:200px;
width:300px; height:330px; z-index:8

a href=aboutus.cfmfont color=ffbAbout
us/b/font/a

nbsp;nbsp;a href=newsHome.cfmfont
color=ffbNews/b/font/a
nbsp;nbsp;a href=calendarHome.cfmfont
color=ffbCalendar/b/font/a
nbsp;nbsp;a href=DirectoryHome.cfmfont
color=ffbDirectory/b/font/a
/div

HTH,

Pine

-Original Message-
From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: input box selection


Nothing jumps right out at me... try validating and cleaning up your
html and CSS first.

...:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com


 

-Original Message-
From: Jason Herbolsheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 5:09 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: FW: input box selection

OK.
I promise this one is the right one.

http://oil.cfwebtools.com/newshome.cfm?news_id=51action=emailstory

-Original Message-
From: Jason Herbolsheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 4:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: FW: input box selection


Sorry that isn't the correct url.  Please try this one instead.

http://oil.cfwebtools.com/newshome.cfm?news_id=51action=showstory

-Original Message-
From: Jason Herbolsheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 4:05 PM
To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: input box selection



I'm currently developing a site that has a very simple form(2 email
addresses, Name and comments).  The problem I'm having is that I'm
unable to click on any of the text boxes to place the cursor inside of
it, unless you hover exactly over the top portion of the text box
(your arrow will go to a cursor).

Below is a url to the page I'm having this issue on.  If someone out
there has encountered this problem before and found has a solution I
would greatly appreciate your help, or if someone knows what might be
wrong I would also appreciate your help as well.

http://oil.cfwebtools.com/newsHome.cfm?news_id=51

Thanks in advance,

Jason Herbolsheimer










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RE: Log analyzer software.

2006-02-06 Thread PINE Phyo Z
Ok, may be I'm jumping the gun but Port  is such a notorious port. I
wouldn't want to give that to my customers if I were you.

Here is some info on port  :
http://www.auditmypc.com/port/tcp-port-.asp

And if you google with the word port , there might be more info.

Thanks  Regards,
Pine

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Gavin-Wear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 2:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Log analyzer software.


Hi Che,

I've just installed Smarterstats on IE 6.  Took 10 mins to install, and
it appears the trial version will run one site for free.  It runs off
port  so you can give customer you host www.theirdomaim.com: and
a login to see their stats.  Maintenance, from what I can see, is zero.

The stats are good and very adaptable.

I've used Weblog Expert, which I'd say is better for Apache, and I
looked at AWstats which is a pain to set up (loads of command line, just
what you don't want).

Jenny

-Original Message-
From: Che Vilnonis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 February 2006 18:34
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Log analyzer software.


I'm sure this has been re-hashed before. I did a search at HofF and 
found not many pertinent results.

I'd like some recommendations on web log analyzer software. I'd like 
it to be easy to configure (no command line), work with IIS 6 and not 
cause too much overhead. Automated monthly report generation is my 
main concern for several domains. I don't require real time, roi, 
pay per click or even daily/hourly reports, etc. I've used 
WebTrends in the past and found it limited. Perhaps their latest 
version would be better? Deepmetrix? Urchin? AWStats? Let me know...

Any thoughts or ideas would be great. Thanks, Che.





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RE: Log analyzer software.

2006-02-06 Thread PINE Phyo Z
May be I need to re-phrase my response but the point I want to make is
still the same. It is pretty well-known that many trojans and back-doors
make use of the port . Many firewalls and companies block that port
as well. 

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 3:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Log analyzer software.


 Ok, may be I'm jumping the gun but Port  is such a
 notorious port. I wouldn't want to give that to my customers 
 if I were you.
 
 Here is some info on port  : 
 http://www.auditmypc.com/port/tcp-port-.asp
 
 And if you google with the word port , there might be more
 info.

That's kind of silly. Ports aren't notorious. It's what listens on a
port that you have to worry about, not the port itself. High ports
(greater than
1024) are used by all sorts of TCP clients and servers all the time.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/

Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago,
Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit
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RE: RJustify Question

2006-02-03 Thread PINE Phyo Z
Table and div solutions are good. For some reasons if they don't work,
using the tag below will solve the issue.

cfprocessingDirective suppressWhitespace=No 
pre
 !--- Align nicely without CF codes here ---
/pre
/cfprocessingDirective

HTH

Pine



-Original Message-
From: Eric Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 8:54 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: RJustify Question


Use a table and right align the columns...

Eric 

-Original Message-
From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 02 February 2006 19:03
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RJustify Question

Trying to align a column of integers

   9
  11
999
  77
   3

So, the below does nothing:

#RJustify(9, 3)#
#RJustify(11, 3)#
#RJustify(999, 3)#


Suggestions?





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RE: ValueList and Dynamic Query and Column

2006-02-02 Thread PINE Phyo Z
Just using another String variable and not returning the valueList
directly might solve? 
Like 
cfparam someVar type=string default= 
cfset someVar = valueList(query.column) and return the someVar at the
end of the function with cfreturn someVar?

-Original Message-
From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 12:57 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: ValueList and Dynamic Query and Column


I think I remember this being a problem, but I'm trying to create a
value list from a dynamic query and column.
 
Something like this:
 
function(query, column)
{
return valueList(query.column);
}
 
That's the gist of it, but it doesn't work.  Any suggestions?
 
Thanks
 
M!chael A Dawson
Manager of Web Applications
Office of Technology Services
University of Evansville
1800 Lincoln Avenue
Evansville, IN 47722
812-488-2581
MSN Messenger ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary
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RE: Capture CF Admin settings

2006-02-01 Thread PINE Phyo Z
May be cfdump the settings into the file might solve the problem?
Depending on what you want, you can do something like this,

CFOBJECT ACTION=CREATE
TYPE=JAVA
CLASS=coldfusion.server.ServiceFactory
NAME=factory
!--- Get datasource service ---
CFSET dsService=factory.getDataSourceService()

CFSET
datasources=factory.getDataSourceService().getDataSources() 

 CFDUMP VAR=#datasources#

You can display the whole factory with the above code. That might be
something that you want to do?

HTH,

Pine

-Original Message-
From: Cameron Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 7:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Capture CF Admin settings


Hi, all.

Rather than taking screen shots or saving each page as an HTML file, is
there a way to capture and store all of the CF Admin settings? Doing a
CF reinstall without properly document settings is a pain and I'm
looking for some pain relief.

Thanks,

Cameron



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RE: Capture CF Admin settings

2006-02-01 Thread PINE Phyo Z
Oh, yes, you are right. You can export the settings as a CAR file if you
can access to the CF Admin page. (or if you are CF Admin).

-Original Message-
From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 8:41 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Capture CF Admin settings


I belive you could export it as a CAR file

Hope that helps

MD

On 01/02/06, Cameron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, all.

 Rather than taking screen shots or saving each page as an HTML file, 
 is there a way to capture and store all of the CF Admin settings? 
 Doing a CF reinstall without properly document settings is a pain and 
 I'm looking for some pain relief.

 Thanks,

 Cameron

 



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RE: Set session variables in JS?

2006-02-01 Thread PINE Phyo Z
Hi Dan,

Can you elaborate a bit on point 3 - Use Image()object in JS to post to
a fixed URL. I know how to do the other 3 (Form, Hidden fields/iframe
and AJAX) but not sure how to do on point 3 that you mentioned. 

Apart from all those you mentioned, you can pass the values in the URL
or Attributes via query string by using window.location to itself (with
different URL or Attributes variables). 

Thanks in advance.

Pine

-Original Message-
From: Dan G. Switzer, II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 7:10 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Set session variables in JS?


Eric,

Is there a specific or easy way to set session variables while in the 
middle of a javascript routine?  I can't seem to recall...thanks.

JavaScript executes on the client where as CF executes on the server.
You can't have JavaScript directly affect the outcome of the current
running template. That means you can't do:

var aJSVariable = prompt(Your name:);
cfset session.name = aJSVariable /

Now that's not to say that you can't use JavaScript to change the value
of a session variable for sequential requests. There are a couple of
ways to accomplish this, but they are revolve having the browser talk
back to the
server:

1) Update a form variable and then submit the form back to the server.
2) Use a hidden iframe to post back to a fixed URL to update the server.
3) Use the Image() object in JS to post to a fixed URL to update the
server.
4) Use AJAX to update the server.

-Dan





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RE: Set session variables in JS?

2006-02-01 Thread PINE Phyo Z
Thanks Jim, that article is really informative!!

-Original Message-
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 9:25 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Set session variables in JS?


 -Original Message-
 From: PINE Phyo Z [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:51 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Set session variables in JS?
 
 Hi Dan,
 
 Can you elaborate a bit on point 3 - Use Image()object in JS to post 
 to a fixed URL. I know how to do the other 3 (Form, Hidden 
 fields/iframe and AJAX) but not sure how to do on point 3 that you 
 mentioned.

Here's my method for that:

http://www.depressedpress.com/Content/Development/JavaScript/Articles/GI
FAsP
ipe/Index.cfm

It's old (about 6 years old now) but still works a treat.

Jim Davis





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RE: Set session variables in JS?

2006-02-01 Thread PINE Phyo Z
Thanks a lot for the pointer, Dan.

Regards,
Pine

-Original Message-
From: Dan G. Switzer, II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 9:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Set session variables in JS?


Pine,

 Hi Dan,

 Can you elaborate a bit on point 3 - Use Image()object in JS to post

 to a fixed URL. I know how to do the other 3 (Form, Hidden 
 fields/iframe and AJAX) but not sure how to do on point 3 that you 
 mentioned.

Here's my method for that:

http://www.depressedpress.com/Content/Development/JavaScript/Articles/G
IFAs
P
ipe/Index.cfm

It's old (about 6 years old now) but still works a treat.

Jim's technique is crutch of it, but instead of actually putting an img
/ tag in your code, you can use something like:

var oImgGateway = new Image();
oImgGateway.src = someurl.cfm?passParam=here;

This will create an async event that will load the URL in the src
property to the server.

The caveat with this approach is that you have no way to really interact
with the server--basically you can only use it to pass information to
the server, you won't be able to retrieve information from the server
using that technique.

-Dan





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RE: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver

2006-01-31 Thread PINE Phyo Z
Thanks Steven. That is really helpful. I am going to try CSS Editor,
Javascript Editor and probably colorer. 

Regards,
Pine

-Original Message-
From: Steven Brownlee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 9:39 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver


Sure, here's my list of essentials.  Takes about 15 minutes to install
these.

- CFeclipse (http://www.cfeclipse.org/)
- Subclipse  (http://subclipse.tigris.org/)
- QuickREx
(http://www.bastian-bergerhoff.com/eclipse/features/web/QuickREx/toc.htm
l)
- DBEdit* (http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbedit) 
- CSS Editor  (http://csseditor.sourceforge.net/)
- Javascript editor
(http://www.interaktonline.com/Products/Eclipse/JSEclipse/Overview/)

Other I have installed but aren't essential for CF development.

- PHP Editor  (http://www.phpeclipse.de/tiki-view_articles.php)
- Flex 2 plugin
(http://labs.macromedia.com/technologies/flexframework2/)
- Colorer  (http://colorer.sourceforge.net/eclipsecolorer/index.html)

*Note about DBEdit plugin.  The auto-install site installs the tool
buggy. Best to download the zip and install it manually (just unzip
directly to eclipse directory).

I'm familiar with all the new features in DW8.  I really do like the CSS
editor... a lot.  However, the one in Eclipse suits my needs so I never
think to open up DW for it.

-Original Message-
From: Greg Hamer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 12:15 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver

Steve,

I have Eclipse 3.1 with CFEclipse 1.2.0.  Obviously Eclipse gives me the
Java code editor, and CFEclipse the CF code editor.  Am I correct that
for me to have a config that matches yours, I have to install a few more
plugins?  e.g for DB tool, stylesheet editor, Subversion view and
regular expression builder?  Would you be so kind as to share with me
which plugins you are using?

I currently am not in a team environment.  Your sharing how you have
rolled up your configuration would be greatly appreciated :)

I anticipate I will be spending alot of time in Flex 2 starting next
month, so there is some Eclipse in my future one way or another.

Thank you for sharing how you are using Eclipse.

btw ... Lynda.com has a great 17 part (1 hour), online video training
title on Dreamweaver 8 New Features with Garrick Chow.  The first 2 on
CSS are free.  Link here:
http://movielibrary.lynda.com/html/modPage.asp?ID=173

  Best regards,

  g






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RE: OT: Need Site Reviewers Please

2006-01-31 Thread PINE Phyo Z
I went through it too. But just looking at them from end user's
perspective.

-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 10:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: Need Site Reviewers Please


I went through the sites. Mainly looking at the layout/color perspective

On 1/27/06, C. Hatton Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm teaching Web Scripting  Authoring and have about 10 sites that
 need reviewing folks that are in the web industry.   Last time I sent
 out a word doc via email and sincerely appreciate the time everyone 
 took to review the sites.

 This time I have an easier method that will take less time for anyone 
 willing to fill out a small survey on the sites that have been 
 submitted.  I have built a small application that wraps the student 
 site, survey and assignment description in one page.  In addition the 
 application remmebers the last site you filled out a survey on and 
 takes you to the next site, so if you don't have time to go through 
 all the sites you can come back later.

 If you're interested in participating simply go to 
 http://chumphrey.guardian-web.com/index.cfm and sign in using your 
 email address and putting in your name (if you feel like it).  All 
 surveys are reported to the students confidentially and names are 
 optional.  Please drop me an email and let me know so I can have an 
 idea of a participation count.

 The current asignment is to build a static business website.  These 
 students are multimedia students so they've been spending a lot of 
 time working with flash, director, 3D Studio max but not much with 
 HTML.  The sites being presented with this assignment have been built 
 using Notepad to hammer in HTML tag concepts.  They were told that an 
 element of wow would be incorperated into the surveys.  I know that 
 there are a few that are text only... and their surveys need to 
 reflect the fact that they did not take any graphics into account.

 I'll be closing out this assignment's surveys on Thursday, February 2 
 by 1 or 2 pm.  There are more assignments coming soon!

 Thanks for your time!
 Hatton

 



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Viewing Cflog files

2006-01-31 Thread PINE Phyo Z
Hi all,

I'm just wondering whether there is a way to view the log files that are
created in the application using cflog to be able to view
programmatically. For my case, the ColdFusion servers and logfiles
directories are out of bounds for developers, so I would like to know
whether I can access back the log files I have written in the
application something like this:

cflog file=#APPLICATION.myAppLog# text=Some log messages here!

So, from another part of my application (admin's portion), I would like
to run some code to view my log files contents. Is there a way to do
this?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Pine

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RE: Encrypt Decrypt

2006-01-27 Thread PINE Phyo Z
Hi Larry,
 

 Your immediate problem can be solved by escaping it (##) AND assigning
it to another variable. Use this:

cfset encryptString = 2:GR4G5_,3++Q]##9:N+?)N4
br#Decrypt(encryptString,7xxT533zrt3d9in)#

I have tried and it worked. But just a suggestion, you might want to
work with GenerateSecretKey or hash. (For more info, consult the
livedocs).

Thanks  Regards,

Phyo Pine
Information Systems Specialist
DMV - ODOT

-Original Message-
From: Stephens, Larry V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 1:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Encrypt Decrypt


I'm using a simple encrypt statement to store info:

#Encrypt(SESSION.Customer.xxx, GetX.Item)#',

(this is from my INSERT statement) GetX.Item is the key loaded from a
table.

(I don't profess to be an expert in encryption (obviously) but, other
than being a little obtuse in the code, I don't know how to hide the key
any better on a server I don't control. I'm certainly open to
suggestion.)

Hiding the key aside, my decryption routine looks like (I'm moving it to
another table that is secure):

FieldX = '#Decrypt(FieldSaved, GetX.Item)#',


where aaa is the data retrieved from the table and GetX.Item is the same
key.

And it works, (e.g., decrypting 0Z[ STK6_,;)*!I+!/  )until the
encrypted data looks like

3JG$P5[0];!/QM#!O

So, I played with it a bit and it became obvious that the problem is the
# imbedded in the encrypted data.

What now? I can't escape it (##) because that throws an error, too.

To illustrate what seems to be happening:


!--- this works ---
cfset x=Encrypt(730072022000SerNum,7xxT533zrt3d9in)
cfoutput
#x#   !--- this will be: 2:GR4G5_,3++Q]#9:N+?)N4  ---
br /#Decrypt(x,7xxT533zrt3d9in)#

!--- run routine then uncomment next line and run again --- !---br
/#Decrypt(2:GR4G5_,3++Q]#9:N+?)N4
,7xxT533zrt3d9in)#---
/cfoutput


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RE: Geting a list of query column names unsorted.

2006-01-27 Thread PINE Phyo Z
Wow, thanks Oleg. 

-Original Message-
From: Oleg Gunkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 2:22 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Geting a list of query column names unsorted.


Phyo Pine, just use the following:
cffunction name=getColumns access=public returntype=string
cfargument name=query required=yes type=query
cfreturn
ArrayToList(query.getMetaData().getColumnLabels())
/cffunction

--
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Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: (604) 666-9392
Emerging Technologies / Pacific Web Services
Information Technology Services
Public Works and Government Services Canada (Pacific)

-Original Message-
From: Phyo Pine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 13:15
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Geting a list of query column names unsorted.


I am interested in the solution too. I was having the same trouble when
I was using cfdump var=#queryname# as well. So the work-around I did
was instead of SELECT c,a,b FROM someTable, I used SELECT c as 1c, a
as 2a, b as 3b FROM someTable.

Hope this helps...

Regards,

Phyo Pine
Information Systems Specialist
DMV - ODOT




 'query_name.columnlist' returns a sorted list of column names, but I
 really need it to be unsorted because for the query 'select c, a, b 
 from t' I need 'c,a,b' list, NOT 'a,b,c'. How do I get an unsorted 
 list of columns?
 
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 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Phone: (604) 666-9392
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CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver

2006-01-27 Thread PINE Phyo Z
Hi all,

What IDE do you normally use for CF? I heard a lot of raves about
CFEclipse so I downloaded it and use at home. I normally use Dreamweaver
at work. Apart from CFEclipse being free, I do not find any considerable
edge or advantage over Dreamweaver. (Any CFEclipse developers, no
offence please.) Any thoughts on this? 

May be I am not using it right but CFEclipse lacks mainly, IMHO, in
graphical representation. In Dreamweaver, I can go back and fort on
Design view and Code view and most of the HTML component creation is a
snap. (May be CFEclipse is more geared for pure ColdFusion.) But in
CFEclipse I need to type everything in. Well, may be I am not geek
enough but just typing everything in for complex UI seem like really a
chore to me. 

Thanks  Regards,

Phyo Pine
Information Systems Specialist
DMV - ODOT




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RE: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver

2006-01-27 Thread PINE Phyo Z
Hi Barney,

 yes, you are right. When it comes to version control with CVS et al.,
CFEclipse is best suited. Thanks for pointing that out. Apart from being
the CF developer, I am also a Java developer and working on Eclipse
platform too. So, I can see the benefits that you describe. Within one
tool, you can move from Java to CF to XML to anything else Eclipse is
supporting. In that aspect, CFEclipse is cool. May be I should find
another Eclipse plug-ins for HTML and CSS for design aspects.

Thanks  Regards,
Pine

-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 2:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver


CFE is definitely targeted at code-centric developers, while DW is
essentially an HTML design tool that has had a lot code-centric stuff
bolted on.  Neither approach is better or worse, just suited to
different people.  The most important difference, however, has nothing
to do with that.

CFE is built upon Eclipse, which brings with it more tools that you
could hope to learn about this year.  You install Eclipse, and then you
can start building the dev environment that you need, not the one that
company X thought you needed.  For example, DW doesn't integrate with
version control, but Eclipse plugins exist for CVS, SVN, Perforce, VSS,
and probably others.  Want XML editing?  There are choices there too:
XmlBuddy, oXygen, MyEclipse's XML stuff, and others.

That's the best reason I see to use CFE over DW.  In all honesty, I
still think CFE is lacking compared to DW in some areas (like snippet
usability), but the external tools support make it WAY better overall.
I might lose 10-15 minutes a day because of stuff DW would make easier,
but I'll save an hour or more with all the other integrated tools I can
use in it.

cheers,
barneyb

On 1/27/06, PINE Phyo Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 What IDE do you normally use for CF? I heard a lot of raves about 
 CFEclipse so I downloaded it and use at home. I normally use 
 Dreamweaver at work. Apart from CFEclipse being free, I do not find 
 any considerable edge or advantage over Dreamweaver. (Any CFEclipse 
 developers, no offence please.) Any thoughts on this?

 May be I am not using it right but CFEclipse lacks mainly, IMHO, in 
 graphical representation. In Dreamweaver, I can go back and fort on 
 Design view and Code view and most of the HTML component creation is a

 snap. (May be CFEclipse is more geared for pure ColdFusion.) But in 
 CFEclipse I need to type everything in. Well, may be I am not geek 
 enough but just typing everything in for complex UI seem like really a

 chore to me.

 Thanks  Regards,

 Phyo Pine

--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://www.barneyb.com/

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RE: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver

2006-01-27 Thread PINE Phyo Z
Hi Spike,

You are probably right. While I want to code tons of CFCs or UDFs I
might use CFEclipse and while I have many UI elements to develop, I
might switch to Dreamweaver. Nonetheless, I can see CFEclipse has the
potential and would like to see some design elements considerations in
future version. Anyway, that is just my view. 

A little bit OT but just curious since I am also using WSAD (WebSphere
Application Developer) which is on Eclipse platform, is there any way
that I can use CFEclipse inside WSAD?

Thanks  Regards,
Pine

-Original Message-
From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 2:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver


If you find that the design view part of DreamWeaver is important to
you, it is probably best to stick with that rather than CFEclipse. One
of the goals of CFEclipse is to be a code centric tool, which means that
we have pretty much no intention of adding design view support.

Spike

On 1/27/06, PINE Phyo Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 What IDE do you normally use for CF? I heard a lot of raves about 
 CFEclipse so I downloaded it and use at home. I normally use 
 Dreamweaver at work. Apart from CFEclipse being free, I do not find 
 any considerable edge or advantage over Dreamweaver. (Any CFEclipse 
 developers, no offence please.) Any thoughts on this?

 May be I am not using it right but CFEclipse lacks mainly, IMHO, in 
 graphical representation. In Dreamweaver, I can go back and fort on 
 Design view and Code view and most of the HTML component creation is a

 snap. (May be CFEclipse is more geared for pure ColdFusion.) But in 
 CFEclipse I need to type everything in. Well, may be I am not geek 
 enough but just typing everything in for complex UI seem like really a

 chore to me.

 Thanks  Regards,

 Phyo Pine
 Information Systems Specialist
 DMV - ODOT




 



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RE: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver

2006-01-27 Thread PINE Phyo Z
Heh heh... You are right on about the tag closing feature. Now-a-days,
after I typed an opening tag, I almost expect the closing tag to be
appeared automatically..



-Original Message-
From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 3:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFEclipse Vs Dreamweaver


Just to clarify DW does integrate with source control. VSS, out of the
box, others with some tweaking. I've used Seapine and VSS with DW

That said.

I like both. THere are some lazy programmer things DW offers (tag
closing) that I really have gotten used to.

Both are great in their own ways.

On 1/27/06, Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 CFE is definitely targeted at code-centric developers, while DW is 
 essentially an HTML design tool that has had a lot code-centric stuff 
 bolted on.  Neither approach is better or worse, just suited to 
 different people.  The most important difference, however, has nothing

 to do with that.

 CFE is built upon Eclipse, which brings with it more tools that you 
 could hope to learn about this year.  You install Eclipse, and then 
 you can start building the dev environment that you need, not the one 
 that company X thought you needed.  For example, DW doesn't integrate 
 with version control, but Eclipse plugins exist for CVS, SVN, 
 Perforce, VSS, and probably others.  Want XML editing?  There are 
 choices there too: XmlBuddy, oXygen, MyEclipse's XML stuff, and 
 others.

 That's the best reason I see to use CFE over DW.  In all honesty, I 
 still think CFE is lacking compared to DW in some areas (like snippet 
 usability), but the external tools support make it WAY better overall.

 I might lose 10-15 minutes a day because of stuff DW would make 
 easier, but I'll save an hour or more with all the other integrated 
 tools I can use in it.

 cheers,
 barneyb

 On 1/27/06, PINE Phyo Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  What IDE do you normally use for CF? I heard a lot of raves about 
  CFEclipse so I downloaded it and use at home. I normally use 
  Dreamweaver at work. Apart from CFEclipse being free, I do not find 
  any considerable edge or advantage over Dreamweaver. (Any CFEclipse 
  developers, no offence please.) Any thoughts on this?
 
  May be I am not using it right but CFEclipse lacks mainly, IMHO, in 
  graphical representation. In Dreamweaver, I can go back and fort on 
  Design view and Code view and most of the HTML component creation is

  a snap. (May be CFEclipse is more geared for pure ColdFusion.) But 
  in CFEclipse I need to type everything in. Well, may be I am not 
  geek enough but just typing everything in for complex UI seem like 
  really a chore to me.
 
  Thanks  Regards,
 
  Phyo Pine

 --
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 360.319.6145
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