Re: how to check if a remote file exists

[Raymond Camden]

Oh good point there. So - ignoring my server where I don't have a proper
404 (grin), this should work for you:

http://www.cnn.com/index2332.cfm";>

good





On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > You can use fileExists w/ a URL but unfortunately, if the server has a
> 404
> > handler than it will return true even when the 404 handler fires.
> >
> > http://www.raymondcamden.com/index2332.cfm";)>
> > yes
> > 
> >
> > http://www.raymondcamden.com/index2332.cfm";>
> > 
> >
> > If a 404 handler isn't there, then this would have worked.
>
> If you're building a 404 handler, you should actually make sure it
> returns a 404 status code. You can do this easily enough with
> CFHEADER. The page can contain whatever HTML you want to present to
> the user, still.
>
> I run into this quite a bit working with the Google Search Appliance.
> The GSA relies on status codes by default to identify which pages to
> index. While it's possible to give it a way to identify soft 404s
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_404#Soft_404), it's much easier
> just to have real 404s in the first place.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> 1-202-527-9569
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
>
> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>
> 

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Re: how to check if a remote file exists

[Raymond Camden]

You can use fileExists w/ a URL but unfortunately, if the server has a 404
handler than it will return true even when the 404 handler fires.

http://www.raymondcamden.com/index2332.cfm";)>
yes


http://www.raymondcamden.com/index2332.cfm";>


If a 404 handler isn't there, then this would have worked.


On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 2:19 AM, safo 2000  wrote:

>
> hi,
>
> i have w2k3 server that holds a text file, say x.txt, generated by an VFP9
> app., on a separate server i have a cf9 app. that needs to check for file
> x, if it exists get a copy of it and merge it with another text file that
> is generated by the app.
> well, how can i do the checking part?
>
> 

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Re: "The long tail of ColdFusion fail"

[Raymond Camden]

As has been explained *multiple* times, there is no one solution (in terms
of settings) that will work for everyone. Therefore there must be some
position made where the software says, I'll lock down A and B, but I don't
think I can *always* lock C.

I *do* think that at the end of the installation, linking to the lock down
guide would be useful.


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Maureen  wrote:

>
> Honestly, if you are selling a software product that requires
> additional lock down after installation, you might could get the
> attention of those hiding in their cubicle by putting a large notice
> of such at the beginning of the installation instructions.  No one
> should have to find out about software security issues from CNN.
>
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Wil Genovese 
> wrote:
> >
> > Honestly if these people are living under their cubicle desk then I have
> no clue how to get their attention.  It's not as if no one is talking about
> ColdFusion security and certainly not as if the main stream news media is
> reporting security breaches. If someone chooses to stay uninformed there
> isn't much anyone can do to wake them up.
>
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Re: "The long tail of ColdFusion fail"

[Raymond Camden]

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:09 PM, Maureen  wrote:

>
> Of course users should take responsibility.  But corporations have a
> responsibility to their users to inform them as well.We are all
> aware that those managing servers SHOULD be knowledgeable and
> competent, however in the real world, that is not always the case and
> never will be.  So dealing with the worse case scenario is necessary
> for most of us because ignoring reality doesn't get the job done.
>

Right - but you said Adobe was ignoring this. Please back your statement
up. I said the CF team could possibly do more. But I do not agree that they
are ignoring the issue.


> If your mission is to present a good image of the company you work
> for, you might want to reconsider the attack posture you present here
> each time someone says anything negative or questions the procedures
> that Abode uses.  It is not helpful.  A much better tactic might be to
> consider the suggestions for improvement as valuable instead of
> constantly dismissing them out of hand.
>

A position that does not agree with you is not one of attack.

Also - I do not blindly defend Adobe. I've got a *huge* history of
reporting bugs, making suggestions, and generally trying to make CF a
better product. If I thought the CF team was perfect then I wouldn't be
trying to help improve it.





>
>
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 7:43 PM, Raymond Camden 
> wrote:
>
> > Users must take some responsibility too, Maureen. You can't put it all on
> > Adobe's shoulders here. If you let your nephew install a server and don't
> > bother to double check his work, that is *your* fault, no one else.
>
> 

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Re: "The long tail of ColdFusion fail"

[Raymond Camden]

If securing your server is considered extra curricular activity - ie stuff
you would do at a user group - then your priorities are way out of wack.

(I mean you in general, not you specifically Andrew. ;)


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Andrew Scott wrote:

>
> Ray,
>
> Probably not... Other people should also remember that not everyone spends
> time online in groups, they are 9 to 5 developers who have a life. These
> are the people who set these things up, these are the people that aren't
> being reached. Can more be done, don't think so.
>
> Regards,
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>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Raymond Camden  >wrote:
>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Playing attention to the requirement to inform these people about the
> > > need for extra lock down early in the process would be more effective
> > > in solving the problem than Adobe employees and evangelists ignoring
> > > the fact that these people exist and doing nothing more than yelling
> > >
> >
> > Um... who exactly is ignoring these people? You may argue the CF team
> > should do *more*, but they are not *ignoring* anyone. The Secure Profile
> > was a *big* step to try to help lock things down out of the box. Hiring
> > Pete to write a guide, and hosting it, on *additional* steps was a good
> too
> > imo.
> >
> > Can even more be done - maybe so. I'd like the installer to point to the
> > lock down guide so folks know it exist.
> >
> >
> >
> > > Rah, Rah, Adobe as if the company had no place in the solution.
> >
> >
> > As if Adobe hasn't at least made an effort - oh wait - they did.
> >
> > Users must take some responsibility too, Maureen. You can't put it all on
> > Adobe's shoulders here. If you let your nephew install a server and don't
> > bother to double check his work, that is *your* fault, no one else.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: "The long tail of ColdFusion fail"

[Raymond Camden]

>
>
> Playing attention to the requirement to inform these people about the
> need for extra lock down early in the process would be more effective
> in solving the problem than Adobe employees and evangelists ignoring
> the fact that these people exist and doing nothing more than yelling
>

Um... who exactly is ignoring these people? You may argue the CF team
should do *more*, but they are not *ignoring* anyone. The Secure Profile
was a *big* step to try to help lock things down out of the box. Hiring
Pete to write a guide, and hosting it, on *additional* steps was a good too
imo.

Can even more be done - maybe so. I'd like the installer to point to the
lock down guide so folks know it exist.



> Rah, Rah, Adobe as if the company had no place in the solution.


As if Adobe hasn't at least made an effort - oh wait - they did.

Users must take some responsibility too, Maureen. You can't put it all on
Adobe's shoulders here. If you let your nephew install a server and don't
bother to double check his work, that is *your* fault, no one else.


>
>


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Re: "The long tail of ColdFusion fail"

[Raymond Camden]

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Maureen  wrote:

>
> And that "direction on how to secure it more" exists where exactly?
> Is it in the install instructions, or only in some obscure document
> that a person unfamiliar with the need for security might not know
> about?
>
>
So to be clear - there are people installing servers who don't know that
security is important?

Nothing can help them.

I don't know about you - but pretty much *any* tech I use, I know to google
"foo security" to see what resources exist for securing the app, install,
etc. Number one result for coldfusion security was

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/coldfusion/security.html


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Re: "The long tail of ColdFusion fail"

[Raymond Camden]

On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > Except that in your analogy, it is obvious that one need to open the
> doors from time to time in order to
> > be able to use the car.
> > With CF, there is never a good reason to leave the server unlocked.
>
> Sure there is. Development servers don't need a secure setup if
> they're not exposed to untrusted networks. And it's not as if this is
> a binary thing: locked vs unlocked. There are different levels of
> "locked" that are appropriate for different use-cases and
> environments.


Dave, you seem to be implying that there isn't one solution that works for
everyone magically. Insane.


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Re: returnformat

[Raymond Camden]

Both URL and Form args sent to a CFC method are passed to the arguments
scope. Have you tried simply checking arguments.returnformat?

Also, if your method is meant to export JSON only, you could just force it -

url.returnformat="json";



On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Byron Mann  wrote:

>
> Your jQuery plugin is exactly what I want to do.  Thanks for that.
>
> Still would be neat to know if there is another way to access the runtime
> value of returnformat other than the url scope.  Just a curiosity thing at
> this point.
>
> Byron Mann
> Lead Engineer & Architect
> HostMySite.com
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades <
> cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Byron,
> >
> > What is it, exactly, that you're trying to do? CF Splendor (in beta now)
> > allows for custom serializers, as well as the more "standard" name/value
> > record pairings many client side apps need. I'm doing these conversions
> > client-side now, with my serializeCFJSON jQuery plugin
> > (https://github.com/cutterbl/serializeCFJSON).
> >
> > Steve 'Cutter' Blades
> > Adobe Community Professional
> > Adobe Certified Expert
> > Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
> > 
> > http://cutterscrossing.com
> >
> >
> > Co-Author "Learning Ext JS 3.2" Packt Publishing 2010
> >
> >
> https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book
> >
> > "The best way to predict the future is to help create it"
> >
> > On 3/26/2014 8:12 AM, Byron Mann wrote:
> > > Is there a better way to determine the return format inside an
> executing
> > > CFC method?
> > >
> > > Right now, I'm checking for url.returnformat exists and that == to
> > "json".
> > >
> > > Basically I want to overload an existing method that currently returns
> a
> > > query and return a different json format for the query than just
> > > serializing the result set.
> > >
> > > Byron Mann
> > > Lead Engineer & Architect
> > > HostMySite.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Quick Survey

[Raymond Camden]

It wasn't - but the frustration wasn't towards you at all - just the
general tiredness of it happening here so often.


On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 7:12 AM, John M Bliss  wrote:

>
> I hope that was written with a :-) Jedi.
>
> :-)
>
> I understand. I've been here for years. I honestly did not intend this to
> be another of those threads.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Raymond Camden  >wrote:
>
> >
> > It doesn't matter - it is a Rule of CF-Talk that once every 6 months that
> > thread must be reborn.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 6:29 AM, DURETTE, STEVEN J 
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > H. Limiting the pool of respondents. Releasing a poll like that can
> > > easily be twisted. I wouldn't be surprised to see your poll quoted in
> six
> > > months as CF is dying because all of its developers are jumping ship.
> Not
> > > even one decided to stick with CF!
> > >
> > > While polls are good for information, they can be twisted easily.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:51 PM
> > > To: cf-talk
> > > Subject: Re: Quick Survey
> > >
> > >
> > > P.S. "None / sticking with CFML for now" people need not take survey.
> >  :-)
> > >
> > > This is just for people who're specifically learning a new, non-CFML
> > > language for income reasons. For those people only, I'm wondering,
> "which
> > > one(s)?"
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:43 PM, John M Bliss 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/5XYDGRG
> > > >
> > > > One question, "You've used CFML as your primary source of income for
> > one
> > > > or more years. Now / soon you are learning / will learn which of the
> > > > following because you believe it may be / become a better source of
> > > income?"
> > > >
> > > > Please let me know if this survey (or similar) has already been done
> in
> > > > the last six months or so.
> > > >
> > > > I will share results next week.
> > > >
> > > > https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/5XYDGRG
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > John Bliss - http://www.linkedin.com/in/jbliss
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > John Bliss - http://www.linkedin.com/in/jbliss
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Quick Survey

[Raymond Camden]

It doesn't matter - it is a Rule of CF-Talk that once every 6 months that
thread must be reborn.


On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 6:29 AM, DURETTE, STEVEN J  wrote:

>
> H. Limiting the pool of respondents. Releasing a poll like that can
> easily be twisted. I wouldn't be surprised to see your poll quoted in six
> months as CF is dying because all of its developers are jumping ship. Not
> even one decided to stick with CF!
>
> While polls are good for information, they can be twisted easily.
>
> Steve
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:51 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Quick Survey
>
>
> P.S. "None / sticking with CFML for now" people need not take survey.  :-)
>
> This is just for people who're specifically learning a new, non-CFML
> language for income reasons. For those people only, I'm wondering, "which
> one(s)?"
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:43 PM, John M Bliss 
> wrote:
>
> > https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/5XYDGRG
> >
> > One question, "You've used CFML as your primary source of income for one
> > or more years. Now / soon you are learning / will learn which of the
> > following because you believe it may be / become a better source of
> income?"
> >
> > Please let me know if this survey (or similar) has already been done in
> > the last six months or so.
> >
> > I will share results next week.
> >
> > https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/5XYDGRG
> >
> > --
> > John Bliss - http://www.linkedin.com/in/jbliss
> >
>
>
>
> --
> John Bliss - http://www.linkedin.com/in/jbliss
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Adobe Installers

[Raymond Camden]

Did I say it was perfect? :) As I said, and *others*, it was a big
improvement over the old days. We've updated the client a few times since
the initial release.

Not sure what point you are trying to make here - but I do hope it works
better for you.


On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 2:55 AM, Maureen  wrote:

>
> I rest my case.
>
> Creative Cloud Version 1.5.0.367 released on 3/19/2014
>
> Fixed multiple Creative Cloud desktop app download failures.
> Updated installation error messages for better comprehension.
>
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Maureen  wrote:
> > I will concede that once I got the download manager installed, the
> > actual download process was simpler.  I still find it extremely slow
> > as compared to downloads of equivalent size from other sites.  The
> > update for Premiere Pro took 34 minutes using Comcast Business
> > Internet 150 and clocking test speeds upwards of 100 mbps
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Raymond Camden
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> So it sounded like you had some trouble with the older installs. That's
> >> unfortunate - but we were talking about the current installer. ;)
> >>
> >> Now you said you are downloading 8 apps - "ponderously download" - you
> do
> >> recognize that it may take time to download 8 separate large programs,
> >> right? You can't expect 8 updates to go quick. It doesn't matter how
> cool
> >> your installer is - a lot of bytes is a lot of bytes.
> >> You do accept that it was easier to *start* those updates, right?
> >>
> >> I guess it just depends on your point of view - but for me - and many
> >> others - the experience of using the CC app to handle
> installing/updating
> >> is *incredibly* simpler compared to the past.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Maureen 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> So after the conversation last night, I tried to check for an update
> >>> to Dreamweaver. Selecting the update menu item in Dreamweaver told me
> >>> my version of Abode Application Manager was corrupt.  I went to the
> >>> website, searched for Adobe Application Manager and was given this
> >>> link:
> >>> https://creative.adobe.com/products/creative-cloud
> >>> where I downloaded this file: CreativeCloudSet-Up.exe and attempted to
> >>> install it.
> >>>
> >>> The first attempt failed with a message that said Creative Cloud could
> >>> not be installed.  No reason or explanation as to why.  I uninstalled
> >>> the previous version of the application manager, dated 5/11/2012,
> >>> rebooted and ran the install program again.  After about five minutes
> >>> of the installer running, I was presented with a login prompt.  I
> >>> signed in with my Adobe credentials, selected the  option for
> >>> applications and updates and was presented with a list of the various
> >>> applications which showed that I need eight updates.  I am sitting
> >>> here typing this message while the app updates ponderously download.
> >>> Nothing simple or quick about any of this.
> >>>
> >>> As for locations, the previous installer put the files in Program
> >>> Files folder for some of the apps, the Program Files (x86) for others
> >>> and scattered icons all over the desktop and start menu.
> >>>
> >>> So I am still voting for the anthill.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>
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> >>
> >> Email : raymondcam...@gmail.com
> >> Blog : www.raymondcamden.com
> >> Twitter: cfjedimaster
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
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Re: CFML tags was: "The long tail of ColdFusion fail"

[Raymond Camden]

I don't know - I mean - imagine if CF ignored extra tags, and you had



Then you quit to become a Ruby developer. The next dev comes along who
isn't quite so familiar with CF and assumes that argument is doing
something even though it isn't.

Or heck, take Raymond Camden, a guy who has used CF for 10+ years and still
makes typos from time to time. I'd *much* rather have CF complain than
silently ignore a bad argument.



On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 3:05 PM, <> wrote:

>
> Better than nothing, but still not very developer friendly.
>
>
> 

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Re: Allow Extra Attributes in AttributeCollection

[Raymond Camden]

I should point out - there ARE some tags where you are allowed to add
random crap, like cfcomponent and cffunction (cfargument too I think).
cfmodule as well.


On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 2:53 PM, <> wrote:

>
> However, this will work:
>
>  --->>
>
> Ugly, but it works.
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Allow Extra Attributes in AttributeCollection

[Raymond Camden]

No.


On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 2:30 PM, <> wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> In the administrator, there is a check bor that makes possible to
> "Specify whether ColdFusion tags can pass non-standard attributes in the
> attributecollection structure."
>
> But apparently it does not make posssible to pass non-standard attributes
> in an ordinary tag in the code.
>
> For instance, I would like to use something like this:
> 
>
> So that my parser for documentation is able to recognized default values
> and required or not required attributes in custom tags.
> I don't see any parameter for this.
> Do you think it is possible?
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Adobe Installers

[Raymond Camden]

So it sounded like you had some trouble with the older installs. That's
unfortunate - but we were talking about the current installer. ;)

Now you said you are downloading 8 apps - "ponderously download" - you do
recognize that it may take time to download 8 separate large programs,
right? You can't expect 8 updates to go quick. It doesn't matter how cool
your installer is - a lot of bytes is a lot of bytes.
You do accept that it was easier to *start* those updates, right?

I guess it just depends on your point of view - but for me - and many
others - the experience of using the CC app to handle installing/updating
is *incredibly* simpler compared to the past.


On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Maureen  wrote:

>
> So after the conversation last night, I tried to check for an update
> to Dreamweaver. Selecting the update menu item in Dreamweaver told me
> my version of Abode Application Manager was corrupt.  I went to the
> website, searched for Adobe Application Manager and was given this
> link:
> https://creative.adobe.com/products/creative-cloud
> where I downloaded this file: CreativeCloudSet-Up.exe and attempted to
> install it.
>
> The first attempt failed with a message that said Creative Cloud could
> not be installed.  No reason or explanation as to why.  I uninstalled
> the previous version of the application manager, dated 5/11/2012,
> rebooted and ran the install program again.  After about five minutes
> of the installer running, I was presented with a login prompt.  I
> signed in with my Adobe credentials, selected the  option for
> applications and updates and was presented with a list of the various
> applications which showed that I need eight updates.  I am sitting
> here typing this message while the app updates ponderously download.
> Nothing simple or quick about any of this.
>
> As for locations, the previous installer put the files in Program
> Files folder for some of the apps, the Program Files (x86) for others
> and scattered icons all over the desktop and start menu.
>
> So I am still voting for the anthill.
>
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Re: "The long tail of ColdFusion fail"

[Raymond Camden]

Creative Cloud.


On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 9:21 AM, <> wrote:

>
>  >>You don't find the CC installer to be a heck of a lot simpler?
>
> Excuse my ignorance, but what is CC?
>
>
> 

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Re: "The long tail of ColdFusion fail"

[Raymond Camden]

Well I think if you say you want to stake the developers to the ant hill,
then that is kind of bold, and I'm going to defend my coworkers. ;)
Seriously - I'd consider trying it again. As for being able to select an
install location, I'll give you that, but honestly, I can't remember the
last time I didn't want an app in /Applications. A server - sure. But an
app? Most folks don't need/care to move it.

Actually I just checked, It is in the Preferences section of the CC app.


On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 7:05 AM, Maureen  wrote:

>
> This is probably not the thread for this discussion but yes I have CC
> but I installed it when it was first released and have only done
> updates as notified since.  It's been over a year, and what I was
> remember was a messy install that required me to install a tool to do
> the downloads, did not allow me to select where I wanted the software
> installed and the downloads took forever.  So I'm not sure when the
> click and done process became available, but I haven't seen it.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 5:00 AM, Raymond Camden 
> wrote:
> >
> > If you haven't done CC, then you haven't seen the latest installer. It is
> > literally -  click a button to see a list of stuff, click download, and
> > done.
>
> 

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Re: "The long tail of ColdFusion fail"

[Raymond Camden]

If you haven't done CC, then you haven't seen the latest installer. It is
literally -  click a button to see a list of stuff, click download, and
done.


On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 6:52 AM, Maureen  wrote:

>
> I haven't found it to be simple or quick.  But it's been a while since
> I did the last install.  Perhaps they have improved it.
>
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 4:38 AM, Raymond Camden 
> wrote:
> >
> > You don't find the CC installer to be a heck of a lot simpler? Click the
> > menu - click a product - download - and done.
>
> 

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Re: "The long tail of ColdFusion fail"

[Raymond Camden]

You don't find the CC installer to be a heck of a lot simpler? Click the
menu - click a product - download - and done.

On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 5:03 AM, Maureen  wrote:

>
> The worst part of any Adobe software is the install process.  Always
> has been.  Not sure who determines how the installers work but would
> love to stake them out on an anthill. I've postponed new hardware
> purchases simply because I don't have time to reinstall all the Abode
> software I use for audio and video editing.  And I had four page
> checklist for doing CF installs before moving all my sites to Railo.
>
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Russ Michaels 
> wrote:
> >
> > CF should install locked down out of the box, there really should be no
> > need to follow a complex lockdown guide to make it secure.
> >
>


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Re: "The long tail of ColdFusion fail"

[Raymond Camden]

You mean like with the secure profile option during install?


On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 4:49 PM, <> wrote:

>
>  >>and then when their site gets owned, CF gets the blame.
>
> On another hand, why Adobe hasn't change the way CF is installed if its
> not safe?
>
>
> 

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Re: CF to groovy, awe man wth...

[Raymond Camden]

Ok, I think he gets the idea now. :) Can anyone recommend books, classes,
etc for him? I believe I used an ORA book a few years ago that was good. In
general, ORA books are *always* a good idea.


On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Bruce Sorge  wrote:

>
> I recall a long time ago, a company that I worked for switched from CF to
> .NET. So I was paid to learn C# and rewrite all my CF apps to C# as well.
> Yep, getting paid to learn new stuff is where it's at.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Adam Cameron  wrote:
>
> >
> > Absolutely. I'd KILL for an opportunity like that (that said, we're being
> > cross-trained to C#, which I am also looking fwd to).
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> 

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Re: CF to groovy, awe man wth...

[Raymond Camden]

No kidding. Being forced to learn something new - on the clock - sounds
like a win win.


On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Adam Cameron  wrote:

>
> Why would you not want to learn it?
>
>
> On 17 March 2014 13:28, morchella  wrote:
>
> >
> > so we have some people at the top here wanting us to switch from cf to
> > groovy.
> > i have no control other then will support all apps until this thing
> > happens.
> >
> > so was curious if any one here has done any groovy stuff, and what advice
> > they could give to a old man who has done cf since 1998.
> >
> > i don't want to learn it. but have to.
> > so any good books or resources that you know of?
> >
> > hoping it doesn't happen, or that i find another cf shop before it does.
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Honest question about cfform

[Raymond Camden]

And btw - don't forget - there is a whole project dedicated to helping you
replace these items. (So instead of just saying Dont Do X, we can do Do
This) -

https://github.com/cfjedimaster/ColdFusion-UI-the-Right-Way


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Jochem van Dieten wrote:

>
> On Mar 4, 2014 5:40 AM, "Gerald Guido" wrote:
> > Why are people so vehemently opposed so to CFForm?
>
> Because it will only get you so far. And once you want to go further,
> you'll find that you can't. So then you have to go back, rip out cfform and
> replace it with something else. At which point you will discover that
> whatever skills you learned using cfform are useless because they don't
> transfer to other form frameworks.
> All of this is just fine if you know it beforehand and plan for it. But at
> the same time you are developing your cfform project, the rest of the world
> is moving forward. And I am guessing too many of us got burned when a
> project initially was fine with cfform, but then the requirements changed
> and it wasn't anymore
>
> Additionally I suspect plain old snobbery: it is not a technologically good
> solution, therefore it can never be a good solution from an ROI
> perspective.
>
> Jochem
>
>
> 

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Re: Honest question about cfform

[Raymond Camden]

I think it is acceptable to let CF do some things for you. For example, I
don't want to go to Java and write the code to handle database calls. Could
I? Sure. (Ok, I lie.) But is it a good use of my time? Probably not. I let
CF handle that aspect for me and it has never been a problem.

On the flip side, letting CF handle client side JS for me *has* caused me
problems in the past. In many cases, I needed to do something different
than what CF did. Sometimes this is easy to do, sometimes not. But in the
cases where it was easy to do, I've gotten screwed when an CF update
changes things that makes my customizations break.

Back when CFFORM (and other client side tags, cftable anyone) was added,
client side dev wasn't easy. CF was a great help in that area 10 years ago.
But guess what? Client side dev has come a LONG way since then.

Is it perfect? Of course not. But there are numerous libraries, tools, etc
to help make this easier. The simple fact is that CF is *not* a benefit
anymore in this area. It is *epic* for handling data integration with
client side apps and I'd focus on that instead.



On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Scott Stewart wrote:

>
> On 3/3/2014 10:39 PM, Gerald Guido wrote:
> > Why are people so vehemently opposed so to CFForm?
> >
> > Many TIA in advance,
> >
> > Curious-G!
> >
> > --
> > Gerald Guido
> >
> > Twitter 
> > Blarg 
> > Facebook 
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: URL is specified in wrong format

[Raymond Camden]

Ahhh - ok. :)


On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 9:23 PM, John M Bliss  wrote:

>
> That's what I typed. I did not think it mattered that my value was actually
> an email address:
>
> &var=cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
>
> Versions of CF before 10 did not complain about that it a task URL.
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Raymond Camden  >wrote:
>
> >
> > I think GMail is mucking it up. This is what I saw:
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.evernote.com/shard/s3/sh/8e0fdc74-d3a1-4384-b8ca-f3c99c6c87a7/30019c7b1b44d51381e339d16d4a1f40
> >
> >
>


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Re: URL is specified in wrong format

[Raymond Camden]

I think GMail is mucking it up. This is what I saw:

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s3/sh/8e0fdc74-d3a1-4384-b8ca-f3c99c6c87a7/30019c7b1b44d51381e339d16d4a1f40


On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 9:06 PM, John M Bliss  wrote:

>
> No. I wrote, "
> http://www.SiteOnThisServer.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=fuse.action&var=value
> <
> http://www.siteonthisserver.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=fuse.action&var=value
> >
> "
>
> CF "earlier than v10" was fine with:
>
> var=va...@gmail.com
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 10:03 PM, Raymond Camden  >wrote:
>
> >
> > Was there a @ in your original post?
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 9:01 PM, John M Bliss 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > In:
> > >
> > > &var=value<
> > >
> >
> http://www.siteonthisserver.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=fuse.action&var=value
> > > >
> > >
> > > ...it was not allowing an "@" in the value. Instead, I had to use %40
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Russ Michaels 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Yea its neo-cron.xml I think
> > > >
> > > > Russ Michaels
> > > > www.michaels.me.uk
> > > > cfmldeveloper.com
> > > > cflive.net
> > > > cfsearch.com
> > > > On 25 Feb 2014 21:52, "John M Bliss"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone? Is there an .xml file I can edit?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:24 PM, John M Bliss <
> bliss.j...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > ACF 10,0,12,286680
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a Scheduled Task imported from ACF 9 which works fine.
> > > However,
> > > > > now
> > > > > > when I edit it, change the schedule (but not the URL), and click
> > > Save,
> > > > > I'm
> > > > > > getting:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > URL is specified in wrong format.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > URL (which I know works) is:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.SiteOnThisServer.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=fuse.action&var=value
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any idea why it doesn't like that URL?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > John Bliss - http://www.linkedin.com/in/jbliss
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > John Bliss - http://www.linkedin.com/in/jbliss
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: URL is specified in wrong format

[Raymond Camden]

Was there a @ in your original post?


On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 9:01 PM, John M Bliss  wrote:

>
> In:
>
> &var=value<
> http://www.siteonthisserver.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=fuse.action&var=value
> >
>
> ...it was not allowing an "@" in the value. Instead, I had to use %40
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Russ Michaels 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Yea its neo-cron.xml I think
> >
> > Russ Michaels
> > www.michaels.me.uk
> > cfmldeveloper.com
> > cflive.net
> > cfsearch.com
> > On 25 Feb 2014 21:52, "John M Bliss"  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Anyone? Is there an .xml file I can edit?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:24 PM, John M Bliss 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > ACF 10,0,12,286680
> > > >
> > > > I have a Scheduled Task imported from ACF 9 which works fine.
> However,
> > > now
> > > > when I edit it, change the schedule (but not the URL), and click
> Save,
> > > I'm
> > > > getting:
> > > >
> > > > URL is specified in wrong format.
> > > >
> > > > URL (which I know works) is:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.SiteOnThisServer.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=fuse.action&var=value
> > > >
> > > > Any idea why it doesn't like that URL?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > John Bliss - http://www.linkedin.com/in/jbliss
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > John Bliss - http://www.linkedin.com/in/jbliss
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: URL is specified in wrong format

[Raymond Camden]

Wow, I can't do anything in my CF Admin anymore. I login. I try to change
something. And I get that error. Sorry to hijack the thread.

"There was an error while verifying the token. Either the session timed out
or un-authenticated access is suspected."


On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Raymond Camden wrote:

> So I went to test this. I made a new scheduled task and I'm immediately
> logged out.
>
> "There was an error accessing this page. Check logs for more details. "
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 1:24 PM, John M Bliss wrote:
>
>>
>> ACF 10,0,12,286680
>>
>> I have a Scheduled Task imported from ACF 9 which works fine. However, now
>> when I edit it, change the schedule (but not the URL), and click Save, I'm
>> getting:
>>
>> URL is specified in wrong format.
>>
>> URL (which I know works) is:
>>
>> http://www.SiteOnThisServer.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=fuse.action&var=value
>>
>> Any idea why it doesn't like that URL?
>>
>> --
>> John Bliss - http://www.linkedin.com/in/jbliss
>>
>>
>> 

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Re: URL is specified in wrong format

[Raymond Camden]

Yeah - sorry man - ignore me.


On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 1:30 PM, John M Bliss  wrote:

>
> WTF? That's a different / bigger(?) problem...
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Raymond Camden  >wrote:
>
> >
> > So I went to test this. I made a new scheduled task and I'm immediately
> > logged out.
> >
> > "There was an error accessing this page. Check logs for more details. "
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 1:24 PM, John M Bliss 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > ACF 10,0,12,286680
> > >
> > > I have a Scheduled Task imported from ACF 9 which works fine. However,
> > now
> > > when I edit it, change the schedule (but not the URL), and click Save,
> > I'm
> > > getting:
> > >
> > > URL is specified in wrong format.
> > >
> > > URL (which I know works) is:
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.SiteOnThisServer.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=fuse.action&var=value
> > >
> > > Any idea why it doesn't like that URL?
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Re: URL is specified in wrong format

[Raymond Camden]

So I went to test this. I made a new scheduled task and I'm immediately
logged out.

"There was an error accessing this page. Check logs for more details. "


On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 1:24 PM, John M Bliss  wrote:

>
> ACF 10,0,12,286680
>
> I have a Scheduled Task imported from ACF 9 which works fine. However, now
> when I edit it, change the schedule (but not the URL), and click Save, I'm
> getting:
>
> URL is specified in wrong format.
>
> URL (which I know works) is:
>
> http://www.SiteOnThisServer.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=fuse.action&var=value
>
> Any idea why it doesn't like that URL?
>
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>
>
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Re: riaforge.org not found

[Raymond Camden]

Should be back up.


On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:13 AM, mac jordan  wrote:

>
> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Dean Lawrence  wrote:
>
> > Is anyone able to reach riaforge.org? I'm coming up with a site not
> found
> > error. I'm hitting something when I try riaforge.org because it is
> > redirecting me to www.riaforge.org. However, I did a DNS lookup and the
> > www is returning a 302 Moved Temporarily status code.
> >
>
>
> I actually downloaded something from there about five hours ago, but it's
> gone now for me.
>
>
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Re: riaforge.org not found

[Raymond Camden]

Network Solutions is having DNS issues. The domain is fine - it is just
dead at Network Solutions. I'm assuming it will be fine soon.


On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Graham Pearson wrote:

>
> No. I did a DNS search and found that the domains have no NS records
> within them. I have emailed Ben Forta and Ray On this issue
>
> Sent while utilizing a mobile device. Please excuse the Brevity of this
> message.
>
> > On Feb 24, 2014, at 9:25 AM, "Dean Lawrence"  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Is anyone able to reach riaforge.org? I'm coming up with a site not
> found error. I'm hitting something when I try riaforge.org because it is
> redirecting me to www.riaforge.org. However, I did a DNS lookup and the
> www is returning a 302 Moved Temporarily status code.
> >
> >
>
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Re: How do I pass this jQuery variable as arguments to a cfc method?

[Raymond Camden]

On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote:

>
> Hmmm...
>
> I tried using the specialIDList.push(specialID) approach, and I get the
> correct
> output in console.log,  [ "27", "28", "26" ], but I also get the error in
> Firebug,
> "500 Element SPECIALIDLIST is undefined in ARGUMENTS.
>



>
> I also tried using specialIDList = specialID.join(', ') and I still get the
> same
> output in console.log, [ "27", "28", "26" ], but I also get the same error
> in Firebug,
> "500 Element SPECIALIDLIST is undefined in ARGUMENTS.
>

Ok, so you passed specialidlist, right? Can you show us your latest code?


>
> So, the cfc method doesn't understand speciaIDList when it's sent in the
> form
> above, even when I specify the argument as "array" type.
>

Remember, we are sending the data over the wire as a string. So your
argument should be string.

But for now, let's see your client side code again please.


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Re: How do I pass this jQuery variable as arguments to a cfc method?

[Raymond Camden]

On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote:

>
>
>
> It shows [ "27", "28", "26" ] in the console.
>
> I guess I can just pass that through and have a cfargument type of "list"
> and parse those ID's with a cfloop to assign them to individual
> cfarguments.
>
> Or does a cfargument type of "list" handle the ID's without having to
> break down the list into individual arguments?
>
>
Not exactly. You can't pass complex variables like that via HTTP. It has to
be serialized first. I believe jQuery will do that for you- but I'd
probably do it myself - ie, somearray.join(",").




>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Raymond Camden  >wrote:


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Re: How do I pass this jQuery variable as arguments to a cfc method?

[Raymond Camden]

Ah - so it lets you do ad hoc testing. That is cool.


On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Jon Clausen
wrote:

>
> I like Postman because I can manually test  web services, including HTTP
> verbs and enter form and URL variables against services to test responses
> and error handling in a variety of formats. It also has tabs that parse
> your return data, like the network tab does, but in a better format.  It's
> better at functional testing web services, IMHO, than posting AJAX calls
> repeatedly in page.
>
>
>


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Re: How do I pass this jQuery variable as arguments to a cfc method?

[Raymond Camden]

So values is this:

  values =  {   emailNewsletterGreeting: emailNewsletterGreeting,
  specialTitleID: specialTitleID}

I see you set specialTitleID. But you had it in loop. You probably wanted
to make that an array. If the values are IDs though you could use an array
and convert it to a list. So assuming you fixed it and specialTitleID was
an array, you could do:

specialTitleList = specialTitleID.join(",");

Not sure where you set emailNewsletterGretting.

You then want to use Chrome Dev Tools and look at the network request and
see how the value is being passed in.


On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote:

>
> Hey, Ray, and thanks for the reply...
>
> Here's the ajax part...
>
> $.ajax ({ cache:  false,
>   type:'post',
>   url:
>
> 'email-newsletter.cfc?method=mProcessEmailNewsletterForm&returnFormat=json',
>   data:values,
>   success:  function(result) {
>
>   alert('Success!');
>
>   }
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Raymond Camden  >wrote:
>
> >
> > Why didn't yo post the AJAX code? Isn't that crucial for getting the
> values
> > to your CFC? We need to see that.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Rick Faircloth <
> r...@whitestonemedia.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi, all...
> > >
> > > I've approached this problem from every direction I can think of and
> with
> > > reference to many, many websites, but I still can put together an
> answer.
> > >
> > > I have this HTML in a form:
> > >
> > >   
> > >
> > >   
> > >   
> > >> > value="#special_title#" type="checkbox" name="special_title">
> > >   
> > >   #special_title#
> > >   
> > >
> > >   
> > >
> > > Which is output into this:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
> > > This jQuery processing the inputs:
> > >
> > > $(document).ready(function() {
> > >
> > >   $('#newsletter_preview_button').click(function() {
> > >
> > >   var specialTitleID = $('.special_title_checkbox:checked');
> > >
> > >   $('.special_title_checkbox:checked').each(function(index,value) {
> > >
> > >   var specialTitleID = $(this).attr('id').split('_').pop();
> > >   var specialTitleID = 'specialTitle_'+specialTitleID;
> > >
> > >   alert(specialTitleID); <--- [ this alerts the three input values, 26,
> > 27,
> > > 28, individually when form is submitted ]
> > >
> > >   });
> > >
> > >   values =  {   emailNewsletterGreeting:
> emailNewsletterGreeting,
> > >   specialTitleID: specialTitleID}
> > >
> > >   (Followed by AJAX code...)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> >
> --
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> > > reputation."  Henry Kissinger
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Re: How do I pass this jQuery variable as arguments to a cfc method?

[Raymond Camden]

How is that better than the Network tab itself?


On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Jon Clausen
wrote:

>
> On a related note, the Postman extension for Chrome is great for testing
> what your remote CFC's are doing with form variables.
>
> > On Jan 15, 2014, at 4:53 PM, Jon Clausen 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I would set your argument type as a list and then validate,loop and
> process the list in your CFC method.  If so you’ll need to change your
> each() loop to append the variables in to the list and then post the string
> in your $.post() request.
> >
> > HTH,
> > Jon
>
>

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Re: How do I pass this jQuery variable as arguments to a cfc method?

[Raymond Camden]

Why didn't yo post the AJAX code? Isn't that crucial for getting the values
to your CFC? We need to see that.


On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote:

>
> Hi, all...
>
> I've approached this problem from every direction I can think of and with
> reference to many, many websites, but I still can put together an answer.
>
> I have this HTML in a form:
>
>   
>
>   
>   
>value="#special_title#" type="checkbox" name="special_title">
>   
>   #special_title#
>   
>
>   
>
> Which is output into this:
>
> 
> 
> 
>
> This jQuery processing the inputs:
>
> $(document).ready(function() {
>
>   $('#newsletter_preview_button').click(function() {
>
>   var specialTitleID = $('.special_title_checkbox:checked');
>
>   $('.special_title_checkbox:checked').each(function(index,value) {
>
>   var specialTitleID = $(this).attr('id').split('_').pop();
>   var specialTitleID = 'specialTitle_'+specialTitleID;
>
>   alert(specialTitleID); <--- [ this alerts the three input values, 26, 27,
> 28, individually when form is submitted ]
>
>   });
>
>   values =  {   emailNewsletterGreeting: emailNewsletterGreeting,
>   specialTitleID: specialTitleID}
>
>   (Followed by AJAX code...)
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> --
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> reputation."  Henry Kissinger
>
>
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Re: IE 11 not maintaining state

[Raymond Camden]

Not a fix, but just an FYI...

a) you can append both values to a link using #session.urltoken# (it
contains both values)
b) there is also a func, urlSessionFormat


On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Matthew Smith wrote:

>
> Just had the IE 11 update pushed to my development box.  Now, on the site I
> am working on, I am getting a new cfid/cftoken with every page request,
> ruining state/session management.
>
> What is the easiest work around on this?  I would hate to have to go
> through all the site adding #cfid# and #cftoken# to every url...
>
> Thank you.
>
>
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Re: Creating maps with CF

[Raymond Camden]

I've got multiple blog posts on this. Here is one that may help:

http://www.raymondcamden.com/index.cfm/2011/4/13/Simple-introduction-to-Google-Maps-Part-2--Markers


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Dave Long  wrote:

>
> Can anyone suggest a link to a good tutorial on setting up an app to create
> either a Google or Bing map populated by a MySQL db using ColdFusion? (for
> real estate purposes)
>
> I've tried going to their sites (Google, Bing) but it seems you have to
> have
> been born knowing the terminology to find the correct instructions.
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: CF 10 on Mavericks AND Adobe download links not working

[Raymond Camden]

On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
>
> I guess what I'm getting at is: the code I'm writing is almost
> certainly not going to be running on OS X, so why should I care that
> much about the details of the development environment on OS X? Are you
> doing any development that specifically relies on Apache
> functionality? If not, why not use the built-in web server? I'm
>
>

I use 2 features of Apache (that I don't *think* the built in web server in
CF handles):

1) virtual hosts
2) url rewriting


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Re: MAMP not processing ColdFusion

[Raymond Camden]

On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Scott Brady  wrote:

>
> Well, I have it it's not commenting it out.  But now Apache won't start
> because it's saying "/Applications/MAMP/htdocs/CFIDE" doesn't exist.  But I
> don't see anything that is pointing to that location (the mod_jk.conf is
> pointing to the CFIDE  in the CF10 wwwroot folder.
>
> I'll keep banging my head against the wall.
>
> I'll see if I can do what I need to do with the non-Pro version, but I
> didn't think I can use different server names (I need to use specific
> domains on my local environment).


I use different server names with mine. Ie, dev.foo.com, dev.goo.com, etc.


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Re: MAMP not processing ColdFusion

[Raymond Camden]

Ah - MAMP Pro. I'm using MAMP, not the Pro one. But see if my other email
helps - there may be a section it leaves alone.


On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Scott Brady  wrote:

>
> I mentioned this in my latest reply/rant about Mavricks, but thought it
> should be its own thread.
>
> I'm trying to take Ray's advice and use MAMP to run CF on Mavericks, but I
> can't get it to process CF files.
>
> Every time I start up the server in MAMP Pro, it comments out:
> Include "/Users//Library/Application Support/appsolute/MAMP
> PRO/mod_jk.conf"
> in the httpd.conf file
>
> which I believe is what tells it how to process CF files.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Scott
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Re: CF 10 on Mavericks AND Adobe download links not working

[Raymond Camden]

It's been forever since I setup MAMP, but if I remember right, there is a
place for httpd.conf mods that it won't touch. Try moving the lines there.
Going by memory here though.


On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Scott Brady  wrote:

>
>
> Of course, now I'm in MAMP hell, because it won't run CF files (it keeps
> commenting out the include of my mod_jk.conf when I start Apache).
>
>
> Scott
>
>


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Re: CF 10 on Mavericks AND Adobe download links not working

[Raymond Camden]

Funny how I'm running CF right now. On Mavericks. As I said elsewhere (in
reply to you I believe), maybe since it takes 5 minutes to install your own
Apache at a level that CF supports, perhaps they feel time is best suited
elsewhere.

As for outside of CF, we have responded to questions about Creative Cloud,
http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2013/10/faq-adobe-apps-mac-os-mavericks.html,
and I've seen other products chiming in as well.


On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Wil Genovese  wrote:

>
> Funny how the ONLY apps that are not ready for Mavericks are Adobe's.
>
> Adobe has a failed history of being ready for new OS releases whether is
> be OS X or Windows. So please do not insult users for Adobe failing to be
> ready for new OS releases.
>
> Regards,
>
> Wil
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 28, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Russ Michaels  wrote:
>
> >
> > And TBH it is pretty daft to just upgrade your OS without first checking
> > that all your apps are compatible and then moaning about it.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Raymond Camden  >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> My guess, and I speak here as just Ray, not Adobe Ray, heck, I'm not on
> >> that team anyway, is that they have a certified list of web servers they
> >> support, and adding one involves significant effort, and is probably
> only
> >> done in major releases, ie, CF11 may support Apache 5 or somesuch. The
> CF
> >> requirements page should clearly spell out what versions of Apache it
> >> supports and I'd always recommend following that if - well - you want
> stuff
> >> to work.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Scott Brady 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> We were getting a fairly generic "Error processing your request" with a
> >>> number of links to the home page and to contact Adobe.  It's still
> >>> happening (after a restart).  Someone else was able to get me the file,
> >> so
> >>> now just to try to get it up and running again. Isn't Adobe in Apple's
> >>> developer program and, thus, had access to the Mavericks builds so they
> >>> could have had a fix out by now (rather than the community having to
> >>> provide a mod_jk.so file)?
> >>>
> >>> (MAMP uses an older version of Apache, I believe, which is why that
> >> works.)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Bruce Sorge  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I did the mavericks fix for cf this morning and a reinstall and I am
> >>>> working fine using apache and cf10. I already had the dmg for cf so I
> >>> never
> >>>> messed towing it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone 4S.
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Oct 28, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Raymond Camden <
> >> raymondcam...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I just tried and it worked for me - the download I mean. What problem
> >>> did
> >>>>> you have with the link?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As for Mavericks - I updated yesterday and CF is running fine for me.
> >>>> Note
> >>>>> though that I do not use the OSX Apache but rather MAMP.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Scott Brady 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I upgraded my Mac to Mavericks over the weekend and I had CF 10
> >>> working
> >>>>>> yesterday, by using the modified mod_jk.so that someone posted on
> >> the
> >>>> net
> >>>>>> (since there isn't a fix from Adobe yet).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This morning, it stopped working after trying a CF restart, so I
> >> went
> >>>>>> through the process again and still couldn't get it working.  So, I
> >>>> figured
> >>>>>> i'd try re-installing CF10.  Unfortunately, it looks like both the
> >>>> download
> >>>>>> links on Adobe's site for ColdFusion 10 aren't working (nor is the
> >>>> "Report
> >>>>>> a bug" link on their site), but other download links are working.
> >> (One
> >>>>>> other developer can get to the download page, but another one can't
> >> --
> >>>> we
> >>>>>> thought maybe it was a VPN issue, but if I disconnect from the VPN,
> >> I
> >>>> still
> >>>>>> can't get to the download link).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Since I can't report the problem and Ray is on this list, I'm hoping
> >>> he
> >>>> can
> >>>>>> at least notify the web site team.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Here's the download link I'm trying:
> >>>>>> http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=coldfusion
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> -
> >>>>>> Scott Brady
> >>>>>> http://www.scottbrady.net/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: CF 10 on Mavericks AND Adobe download links not working

[Raymond Camden]

My guess, and I speak here as just Ray, not Adobe Ray, heck, I'm not on
that team anyway, is that they have a certified list of web servers they
support, and adding one involves significant effort, and is probably only
done in major releases, ie, CF11 may support Apache 5 or somesuch. The CF
requirements page should clearly spell out what versions of Apache it
supports and I'd always recommend following that if - well - you want stuff
to work.




On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Scott Brady  wrote:

>
> We were getting a fairly generic "Error processing your request" with a
> number of links to the home page and to contact Adobe.  It's still
> happening (after a restart).  Someone else was able to get me the file, so
> now just to try to get it up and running again. Isn't Adobe in Apple's
> developer program and, thus, had access to the Mavericks builds so they
> could have had a fix out by now (rather than the community having to
> provide a mod_jk.so file)?
>
> (MAMP uses an older version of Apache, I believe, which is why that works.)
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Bruce Sorge  wrote:
>
> >
> > I did the mavericks fix for cf this morning and a reinstall and I am
> > working fine using apache and cf10. I already had the dmg for cf so I
> never
> > messed towing it.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone 4S.
> >
> > > On Oct 28, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Raymond Camden 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I just tried and it worked for me - the download I mean. What problem
> did
> > > you have with the link?
> > >
> > > As for Mavericks - I updated yesterday and CF is running fine for me.
> > Note
> > > though that I do not use the OSX Apache but rather MAMP.
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Scott Brady 
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I upgraded my Mac to Mavericks over the weekend and I had CF 10
> working
> > >> yesterday, by using the modified mod_jk.so that someone posted on the
> > net
> > >> (since there isn't a fix from Adobe yet).
> > >>
> > >> This morning, it stopped working after trying a CF restart, so I went
> > >> through the process again and still couldn't get it working.  So, I
> > figured
> > >> i'd try re-installing CF10.  Unfortunately, it looks like both the
> > download
> > >> links on Adobe's site for ColdFusion 10 aren't working (nor is the
> > "Report
> > >> a bug" link on their site), but other download links are working. (One
> > >> other developer can get to the download page, but another one can't --
> > we
> > >> thought maybe it was a VPN issue, but if I disconnect from the VPN, I
> > still
> > >> can't get to the download link).
> > >>
> > >> Since I can't report the problem and Ray is on this list, I'm hoping
> he
> > can
> > >> at least notify the web site team.
> > >>
> > >> Here's the download link I'm trying:
> > >> http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=coldfusion
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> -
> > >> Scott Brady
> > >> http://www.scottbrady.net/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: CF 10 on Mavericks AND Adobe download links not working

[Raymond Camden]

I just tried and it worked for me - the download I mean. What problem did
you have with the link?

As for Mavericks - I updated yesterday and CF is running fine for me. Note
though that I do not use the OSX Apache but rather MAMP.


On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Scott Brady  wrote:

>
> I upgraded my Mac to Mavericks over the weekend and I had CF 10 working
> yesterday, by using the modified mod_jk.so that someone posted on the net
> (since there isn't a fix from Adobe yet).
>
> This morning, it stopped working after trying a CF restart, so I went
> through the process again and still couldn't get it working.  So, I figured
> i'd try re-installing CF10.  Unfortunately, it looks like both the download
> links on Adobe's site for ColdFusion 10 aren't working (nor is the "Report
> a bug" link on their site), but other download links are working. (One
> other developer can get to the download page, but another one can't -- we
> thought maybe it was a VPN issue, but if I disconnect from the VPN, I still
> can't get to the download link).
>
> Since I can't report the problem and Ray is on this list, I'm hoping he can
> at least notify the web site team.
>
> Here's the download link I'm trying:
> http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=coldfusion
>
>
> --
> -
> Scott Brady
> http://www.scottbrady.net/
>
>
> 

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Re: passing data to nested custom tags

[Raymond Camden]

Yeah - I was just being anal about it. :)


On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 2:46 PM, <> wrote:

>
>  >>I wouldn't do that. Seems a bit improper to me.
>
> Well, IMO it depends on how you need to share data between levels of the
> tag
> - If you need to share any level data between all levels, then
> getBaseTagData is the only solution
> - If you need to share the same data between all levels, the request.
> scope is simpler to use.
> - if you need to share data with only the parent level, then the caller.
> scope is also simpler to use.
>
> The ggod thing is that we have the choice.
>
>
> 

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Re: passing data to nested custom tags

[Raymond Camden]

I wouldn't do that. Seems a bit improper to me. We have a mechanism to
share data between tags like this. IMO, it makes sense to use it.


On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 12:47 PM, <> wrote:

>
>  >>So lets say that I passed a query into the attributes scope of the
> parent,
>
> You can also define your query in the request scope and have it availiable
> at all levels.
>
>
> 

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Re: passing data to nested custom tags

[Raymond Camden]

Let me know. If you want, I can send you a demo I built that makes use of
parent/child tags.


On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Scott Stewart
wrote:

>
> not yet, i'm still trying to wrap my head around why the previous developer
> had put 500 lines of display code in a CFC...
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Raymond Camden  >wrote:
>
> >
> > Yeah - did you try it? :)
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Scott Stewart
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > So lets say that I passed a query into the attributes scope of the
> > parent,
> > > I can access it in the child via getBaseTagData?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Raymond Camden <
> > raymondcam...@gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > No, but a child tag can use getBaseTagData to access parent tag
> stuff.
> > In
> > > > the past when I've done custom tags that include parents and
> children,
> > I
> > > > have the children simply pass their crap up via cfassociate, and the
> > > "real"
> > > > logic is done in the parent tag. I can send you a demo if you want.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Scott Stewart <
> > > webmas...@sstwebworks.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Does the attributes scope of a custom tag get passed to it's nested
> > > > > descendants?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > --
> > > > > Scott Stewart
> > > > > Adobe Certified Instructor, ColdFusion 8 & 9
> > > > > Adobe Certified Expert, ColdFusion 8 & 9
> > > > >
> > > > > Blog: http://www.sstwebworks.com
> > > > > Email: webmas...@sstwebworks.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Re: passing data to nested custom tags

[Raymond Camden]

Yeah - did you try it? :)


On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Scott Stewart
wrote:

>
> So lets say that I passed a query into the attributes scope of the parent,
> I can access it in the child via getBaseTagData?
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Raymond Camden  >wrote:
>
> >
> > No, but a child tag can use getBaseTagData to access parent tag stuff. In
> > the past when I've done custom tags that include parents and children, I
> > have the children simply pass their crap up via cfassociate, and the
> "real"
> > logic is done in the parent tag. I can send you a demo if you want.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Scott Stewart <
> webmas...@sstwebworks.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Does the attributes scope of a custom tag get passed to it's nested
> > > descendants?
> > >
> > > --
> > > --
> > > Scott Stewart
> > > Adobe Certified Instructor, ColdFusion 8 & 9
> > > Adobe Certified Expert, ColdFusion 8 & 9
> > >
> > > Blog: http://www.sstwebworks.com
> > > Email: webmas...@sstwebworks.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Re: passing data to nested custom tags

[Raymond Camden]

No, but a child tag can use getBaseTagData to access parent tag stuff. In
the past when I've done custom tags that include parents and children, I
have the children simply pass their crap up via cfassociate, and the "real"
logic is done in the parent tag. I can send you a demo if you want.


On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Scott Stewart wrote:

>
> Does the attributes scope of a custom tag get passed to it's nested
> descendants?
>
> --
> --
> Scott Stewart
> Adobe Certified Instructor, ColdFusion 8 & 9
> Adobe Certified Expert, ColdFusion 8 & 9
>
> Blog: http://www.sstwebworks.com
> Email: webmas...@sstwebworks.com
>
>
> 

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Re: How to refresh part of a page automatically

[Raymond Camden]

On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Mike K  wrote:

>
> Ray, thanks for this.  I can see you get your kicks writing bits of code
> like this dont you.   You've gone wy past answering my question as
> you usually do,  and I'm most grateful.   I have a suspicion your idea of a
> relaxing evening on your vacation is a coding problem and a laptop, where
> the rest of us will waste our time on a cold beverage and warm company on
> the couch.
>


Heh, you don't notice that week or so when I don't blog? That's vacation. ;)


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Re: How to refresh part of a page automatically

[Raymond Camden]

If you want to get anal, you could set a setTimeout and listen for the load
event on the image. That way if it takes a bit longer to load an image one
time the code will hold off on firing another request. (Probably not an
issue though if you are waiting 60 seconds.)


On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 6:46 AM, Raymond Camden wrote:

> Real quick example here. It uses a date object to add a unique URL
> parameter to the end which should help with caching. No jQuery used, just
> standard HTML. The querySelector call is *kinda* modern-ish only (see
> caniuse.com for specifics) and could be replaced by
> document.getElementById. Oh - and I used 3 seconds. You want to change that.
>
> 
> 
> 
> My Page
> 
> 
> 
>
> 
>
> 
> document.addEventListener("DOMContentLoaded", function() {
>
> var img = document.querySelector("#theImage");
> var src = "./sourceimage.jpg";
>
> window.setInterval(function() {
> img.src = src + "?d=" + (new Date().getTime());
>     console.log(img.src);
> },3000);
>
> }, false);
> 
> 
> 
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Raymond Camden 
> wrote:
>
>> You can use a setInterval call in JS to run every 60 seconds and reload
>> the image. You don't need a jQuery plugin for this.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Mike K  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I have a page with a webcam image in it.   The webcam uploads a new image
>>> every 60 seconds, and I use a HTML refresh to refresh the whole page
>>> every
>>> 60 seconds.
>>>
>>> It seems a bit clunky to me.   It's worked just fine for several years,
>>> but
>>> I'd like to see if i can find a way to refresh only the div that contains
>>> the image.  (or iframe if that's a better way to do it but i'd like ot
>>> stay
>>> away from frames and iframes if i can).
>>>
>>> Does anyone know how I could do this?  i.e. just refresh part of the page
>>> automatically?Is there a jquery plugin that would do that?  It needs
>>> to
>>> be fully automatic so the page just changes, a bit like the way facebook
>>> changes all by itself as new material is received.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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>
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Re: How to refresh part of a page automatically

[Raymond Camden]

Real quick example here. It uses a date object to add a unique URL
parameter to the end which should help with caching. No jQuery used, just
standard HTML. The querySelector call is *kinda* modern-ish only (see
caniuse.com for specifics) and could be replaced by
document.getElementById. Oh - and I used 3 seconds. You want to change that.




My Page







document.addEventListener("DOMContentLoaded", function() {

var img = document.querySelector("#theImage");
var src = "./sourceimage.jpg";

window.setInterval(function() {
img.src = src + "?d=" + (new Date().getTime());
console.log(img.src);
},3000);

}, false);





On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Raymond Camden wrote:

> You can use a setInterval call in JS to run every 60 seconds and reload
> the image. You don't need a jQuery plugin for this.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Mike K  wrote:
>
>>
>> I have a page with a webcam image in it.   The webcam uploads a new image
>> every 60 seconds, and I use a HTML refresh to refresh the whole page every
>> 60 seconds.
>>
>> It seems a bit clunky to me.   It's worked just fine for several years,
>> but
>> I'd like to see if i can find a way to refresh only the div that contains
>> the image.  (or iframe if that's a better way to do it but i'd like ot
>> stay
>> away from frames and iframes if i can).
>>
>> Does anyone know how I could do this?  i.e. just refresh part of the page
>> automatically?Is there a jquery plugin that would do that?  It needs
>> to
>> be fully automatic so the page just changes, a bit like the way facebook
>> changes all by itself as new material is received.
>>
>>
>>

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Re: How to refresh part of a page automatically

[Raymond Camden]

You can use a setInterval call in JS to run every 60 seconds and reload the
image. You don't need a jQuery plugin for this.


On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Mike K  wrote:

>
> I have a page with a webcam image in it.   The webcam uploads a new image
> every 60 seconds, and I use a HTML refresh to refresh the whole page every
> 60 seconds.
>
> It seems a bit clunky to me.   It's worked just fine for several years, but
> I'd like to see if i can find a way to refresh only the div that contains
> the image.  (or iframe if that's a better way to do it but i'd like ot stay
> away from frames and iframes if i can).
>
> Does anyone know how I could do this?  i.e. just refresh part of the page
> automatically?Is there a jquery plugin that would do that?  It needs to
> be fully automatic so the page just changes, a bit like the way facebook
> changes all by itself as new material is received.
>
> --
> Cheers
> Mike Kear
> Windsor, NSW, Australia
> Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
> AFP Webworks
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Re: cfscript queries error in base.cfc

[Raymond Camden]

I see you are on CF9. Do you have a copy of CF10? If so, try copying over
the CFCs. This may be something that was fixed.


On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Raymond Camden wrote:

> Weird. Not that it matters, but try this mod:
>
> local.qryObj = new com.adobe.coldfusion.query();
> local.qryObj.setDatasource("PNGOasis");
>
> then continue
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Kumar Shah  wrote:
>
>>
>> You get same error without the setName aspect:
>> 
>> local.qryObj = new Query(datasource="PNGOasis");
>> local.qryObj.setSQL("
>> INSERT INTO PNGOasisExt.dbo.Test(testValue) VALUES ('test value')
>> ");
>> local.qryObj.execute();
>> 
>>
>> Error:
>> 11:01:30.030 - Expression Exception - in
>> C:/ColdFusion9/CustomTags/com/adobe/coldfusion/base.cfc : line 460
>>
>> Cannot find qryname19596 key in structure.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Nando  wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I don't use setName() in my script based queries and it works. If I
>> need a
>> > result back from the query, then I use a different variable name
>> > (v.perviousPayPeriod) from the one I use to construct and execute the
>> query
>> > (v.payPerQ). Here's an example of some working code:
>> >
>> > v.payPerQ = new Query();
>> > v.payPerQ.setSql("
>> >   select paymentPeriodId
>> >   from PaymentPeriod
>> >   where startDateTime = :startDateTime
>> >   and endDateTime = :endDateTime
>> >   and isClosed = 1
>> >  ");
>> >  v.payPerQ.addParam( name='startDateTime',
>> > value='#v.previousStartDateTime#', cfsqltype='cf_sql_timestamp' );
>> >  v.payPerQ.addParam( name='endDateTime',
>> value='#v.previousEndDateTime#',
>> > cfsqltype='cf_sql_timestamp' );
>> >  v.previousPayPeriod= v.payPerQ.execute().getResult();
>> >  if (v.previousPayPeriod.RecordCount) {
>> >... do something
>> >  } else {
>> >... do something else
>> >  }
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Raymond Camden <
>> raymondcam...@gmail.com
>> > >wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Two things.
>> > >
>> > > 1) Don't forget that the code behind the script based CFCs is not
>> > > encrypted. You can look at base.cfc.
>> > >
>> > > 2) The issue seems to be this line:
>> > >
>> > > > tagResult.setResult(StructFind(variables,tagAttributes['name']))>
>> > >
>> > > But - it is wrapped in a try/catch, so you shouldn't be seeing it. If
>> you
>> > > get rid of the setname aspect, which I don't think you need, does it
>> work
>> > > ok?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Kumar Shah 
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > This is the first time I am creating components wholly in cfscript.
>> > > >
>> > > > When running update or insert statements via the cfscript query
>> > functions
>> > > > an error gets recorded like:
>> > > > 22:52:17.017 - Expression Exception - in
>> > > > C:/ColdFusion9/CustomTags/com/adobe/coldfusion/base.cfc : line 460
>> > > >
>> > > > Cannot find updSaveXML key in structure.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > The system still processes fine. The query runs, data gets saved,
>> > > > updated. I don't know why the error above gets reoorded.
>> > > >
>> > > > I ran a simple test with code:
>> > > >
>> > > > local.qryObj = new Query(datasource="PNGOasis");
>> > > > local.qryObj.setName("test");
>> > > > local.qryObj.setSQL("
>> > > > INSERT INTO PNGOasisExt.dbo.Test(testValue) VALUES ('test
>> > value')
>> > > > ");
>> > > > local.qryObj.execute();
>> > > >
>> > > > Same Error:
>> > > >
>> > > > 22:58:48.048 - Expression Exception - in
>> > > > C:/ColdFusion9/CustomTags/com/adobe/coldfusion/base.cfc : line 460
>> > > >
>> > > > Cannot find test key in structure.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> 

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Re: cfscript queries error in base.cfc

[Raymond Camden]

Weird. Not that it matters, but try this mod:

local.qryObj = new com.adobe.coldfusion.query();
local.qryObj.setDatasource("PNGOasis");

then continue



On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Kumar Shah  wrote:

>
> You get same error without the setName aspect:
> 
> local.qryObj = new Query(datasource="PNGOasis");
> local.qryObj.setSQL("
> INSERT INTO PNGOasisExt.dbo.Test(testValue) VALUES ('test value')
> ");
> local.qryObj.execute();
> 
>
> Error:
> 11:01:30.030 - Expression Exception - in
> C:/ColdFusion9/CustomTags/com/adobe/coldfusion/base.cfc : line 460
>
> Cannot find qryname19596 key in structure.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Nando  wrote:
>
> >
> > I don't use setName() in my script based queries and it works. If I need
> a
> > result back from the query, then I use a different variable name
> > (v.perviousPayPeriod) from the one I use to construct and execute the
> query
> > (v.payPerQ). Here's an example of some working code:
> >
> > v.payPerQ = new Query();
> > v.payPerQ.setSql("
> >   select paymentPeriodId
> >   from PaymentPeriod
> >   where startDateTime = :startDateTime
> >   and endDateTime = :endDateTime
> >   and isClosed = 1
> >  ");
> >  v.payPerQ.addParam( name='startDateTime',
> > value='#v.previousStartDateTime#', cfsqltype='cf_sql_timestamp' );
> >  v.payPerQ.addParam( name='endDateTime', value='#v.previousEndDateTime#',
> > cfsqltype='cf_sql_timestamp' );
> >  v.previousPayPeriod= v.payPerQ.execute().getResult();
> >  if (v.previousPayPeriod.RecordCount) {
> >... do something
> >  } else {
> >... do something else
> >  }
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Raymond Camden <
> raymondcam...@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Two things.
> > >
> > > 1) Don't forget that the code behind the script based CFCs is not
> > > encrypted. You can look at base.cfc.
> > >
> > > 2) The issue seems to be this line:
> > >
> > >  tagResult.setResult(StructFind(variables,tagAttributes['name']))>
> > >
> > > But - it is wrapped in a try/catch, so you shouldn't be seeing it. If
> you
> > > get rid of the setname aspect, which I don't think you need, does it
> work
> > > ok?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Kumar Shah 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > This is the first time I am creating components wholly in cfscript.
> > > >
> > > > When running update or insert statements via the cfscript query
> > functions
> > > > an error gets recorded like:
> > > > 22:52:17.017 - Expression Exception - in
> > > > C:/ColdFusion9/CustomTags/com/adobe/coldfusion/base.cfc : line 460
> > > >
> > > > Cannot find updSaveXML key in structure.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The system still processes fine. The query runs, data gets saved,
> > > > updated. I don't know why the error above gets reoorded.
> > > >
> > > > I ran a simple test with code:
> > > >
> > > > local.qryObj = new Query(datasource="PNGOasis");
> > > > local.qryObj.setName("test");
> > > > local.qryObj.setSQL("
> > > > INSERT INTO PNGOasisExt.dbo.Test(testValue) VALUES ('test
> > value')
> > > > ");
> > > > local.qryObj.execute();
> > > >
> > > > Same Error:
> > > >
> > > > 22:58:48.048 - Expression Exception - in
> > > > C:/ColdFusion9/CustomTags/com/adobe/coldfusion/base.cfc : line 460
> > > >
> > > > Cannot find test key in structure.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: cfscript queries error in base.cfc

[Raymond Camden]

Two things.

1) Don't forget that the code behind the script based CFCs is not
encrypted. You can look at base.cfc.

2) The issue seems to be this line:



But - it is wrapped in a try/catch, so you shouldn't be seeing it. If you
get rid of the setname aspect, which I don't think you need, does it work
ok?




On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Kumar Shah  wrote:

>
> This is the first time I am creating components wholly in cfscript.
>
> When running update or insert statements via the cfscript query functions
> an error gets recorded like:
> 22:52:17.017 - Expression Exception - in
> C:/ColdFusion9/CustomTags/com/adobe/coldfusion/base.cfc : line 460
>
> Cannot find updSaveXML key in structure.
>
>
> The system still processes fine. The query runs, data gets saved,
> updated. I don't know why the error above gets reoorded.
>
> I ran a simple test with code:
>
> local.qryObj = new Query(datasource="PNGOasis");
> local.qryObj.setName("test");
> local.qryObj.setSQL("
> INSERT INTO PNGOasisExt.dbo.Test(testValue) VALUES ('test value')
> ");
> local.qryObj.execute();
>
> Same Error:
>
> 22:58:48.048 - Expression Exception - in
> C:/ColdFusion9/CustomTags/com/adobe/coldfusion/base.cfc : line 460
>
> Cannot find test key in structure.
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> 

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Re: Application.cfm/c

[Raymond Camden]

On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Nando  wrote:

>
> The question to ponder here is what an *empty* default Application.cfc file
> is going to achieve? Not much, I believe.
>

I've totally ignored the whole rest of the thread, so pardon me if this is
dumb. But an empty App.cfc *would* accomplish something. It would ensure
that an App.cfc higher up the food chain doesn't fire. You may want to
prevent aht.



>
> >
>
> 

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Re: CF10 dump bug

[Raymond Camden]

Best I could suggest is to file a bug report - and as an FYI I've been
asking to get cfdump "open" as well.


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Nando  wrote:

>
> Ray,
>
> Thanks again for your suggestion to try it outside any application. I was
> then able to isolate the issue (even tho' I thought I couldn't at first!),
> and it seems indeed that it occurs if whitespace is stripped from the
> cfdump output. You'll find a pair of very simple templates in this zip -
> http://aria-media.com/testDump.zip - that demonstrate the issue. Change
> the
> query in test.cfm to something that will work. Browse to test.cfm and it's
> fine. Browse to testDump.cfm and it's broken.
>
> It could be argued that the developers need to be careful when stripping
> whitespace, but it could also be argued that this would be a simple fix and
> cfdump should be a little more robust, so why not? As I wrote, I
> *think*someone just needs to open the source template and repetitively
> search and
> replace all instances of 2 consecutive spaces with one space until no
> space-space instances are found. That should prevent any regex that strips
> whitespace from collapsingcodetogether and thereby breaking functionality.
> What do you think?
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Nando  wrote:
>
> > Ray,
> >
> > I think I have a clue what might be going on. I compared the browser view
> > source of both the standalone template and the fw/1 template. The fw/1
> > version has the whitespace striped out. I selectively strip some of the
> > white space from the rendered views at times, but I've seen that doing so
> > can sometimes inadvertently collapse 2 bits of code that should be
> > separated by a space into something that doesn't work anymore, depending
> on
> > the regex, or regex sequence, used. Lemme follow up on this and see how
> > that is occurring. Sean might have introduced this at some point into the
> > framework.
> >
> > That said, what I would do at this point if I maintained the dump.cfm
> > template is to run a search and replace on the source code, searching
> for 2
> > consecutive spaces and replacing it with one space - repeating that as
> many
> > times as necessary until all instances of 2 consecutive spaces are
> > eliminated. This assumes that the code is formatted using tab characters
> > rather than spaces ...
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Raymond Camden  >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I had a FW/1 app handy but I can't recreate it. Can you please create a
> >> repo zip that I can extract and run here? Since you said the DB call
> >> didn't
> >> matter, just make it obvious for me and I'll replace it with another
> >> query.
> >> Or, if you ALSO see it with a fake query, use that.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Nando  wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Ray,
> >> >
> >> > The cfdump error was seen on a FW/1 view template. When I try the same
> >> > query within a single template outside any application, cfdump works
> >> fine.
> >> > So that was a good suggestion. I have no idea how to interpret it
> tho',
> >> > especially since I cannot see the source code of of dump.cfm.
> >> >
> >> > I've been developing on FW/1 almost exclusively for the last several
> >> years.
> >> > I'm not sure when this crept in, but I do know that I've used cfdump
> >> often
> >> > in the past to examine query data while constructing the view
> >> templates. It
> >> > might not even be related to FW/1. What do you suggest as a next step?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Raymond Camden <
> >> raymondcam...@gmail.com
> >> > >wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > To be clear, no one else in this thread is seeing what Nando does,
> >> right?
> >> > >
> >> > > Nando, can you ensure you are doing a dump with NOTHING else in the
> >> > > request. No App.cfm. Also, try different browsers.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Nando  wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Yes, it's obviously malformed HTML, but since the ACF cfdump
> >> template
> >> > is
> >> > > > encoded, I 

Re: CF10 dump bug

[Raymond Camden]

I had a FW/1 app handy but I can't recreate it. Can you please create a
repo zip that I can extract and run here? Since you said the DB call didn't
matter, just make it obvious for me and I'll replace it with another query.
Or, if you ALSO see it with a fake query, use that.



On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Nando  wrote:

>
> Ray,
>
> The cfdump error was seen on a FW/1 view template. When I try the same
> query within a single template outside any application, cfdump works fine.
> So that was a good suggestion. I have no idea how to interpret it tho',
> especially since I cannot see the source code of of dump.cfm.
>
> I've been developing on FW/1 almost exclusively for the last several years.
> I'm not sure when this crept in, but I do know that I've used cfdump often
> in the past to examine query data while constructing the view templates. It
> might not even be related to FW/1. What do you suggest as a next step?
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Raymond Camden  >wrote:
>
> >
> > To be clear, no one else in this thread is seeing what Nando does, right?
> >
> > Nando, can you ensure you are doing a dump with NOTHING else in the
> > request. No App.cfm. Also, try different browsers.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Nando  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Yes, it's obviously malformed HTML, but since the ACF cfdump template
> is
> > > encoded, I can't reasonably do anything about it.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Rodney Enke 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > At this point I would look at bad HTML preceding the cfdump or CSS
> > styles
> > > > causing the reformatting.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > Nando Breiter
> > >
> > > *Aria Media
> > > via Rompada 40
> > > 6987 Caslano
> > > Switzerland
> > > *
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: docs download

[Raymond Camden]

Moderators on the wiki have the ability to download a HTML set, but not the
general public. So the plan is to create, and publish, periodic HTML
bundles. The link will be marked with a date so you know how "stale" they
are compared to the wiki.


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Raymond Camden wrote:

> I'm checking on this now too.
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 6:43 AM, Paul Hastings wrote:
>
>>
>> On 9/11/2013 6:23 PM, Raymond Camden wrote:
>> >
>> > Ok, I spoke with our docs person and this is whats up.
>> >
>> > 1) You can still get the PDFs from here:
>> > http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/10.0/Installing/index.html
>> >
>> > 2) The above link is the old style docs. The new style docs do NOT have
>> the
>> > PDF links. That will be fixed.
>> >
>> > So long story short - yeah - you can still get the PDFs it is just a bit
>> > difficult to get there if you don't know the way, and that will be
>> > corrected.
>>
>> and the downloadable html docs?
>>
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Re: docs download

[Raymond Camden]

I'm checking on this now too.


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 6:43 AM, Paul Hastings wrote:

>
> On 9/11/2013 6:23 PM, Raymond Camden wrote:
> >
> > Ok, I spoke with our docs person and this is whats up.
> >
> > 1) You can still get the PDFs from here:
> > http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/10.0/Installing/index.html
> >
> > 2) The above link is the old style docs. The new style docs do NOT have
> the
> > PDF links. That will be fixed.
> >
> > So long story short - yeah - you can still get the PDFs it is just a bit
> > difficult to get there if you don't know the way, and that will be
> > corrected.
>
> and the downloadable html docs?
>
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Re: CF10 dump bug

[Raymond Camden]

To be clear, no one else in this thread is seeing what Nando does, right?

Nando, can you ensure you are doing a dump with NOTHING else in the
request. No App.cfm. Also, try different browsers.



On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Nando  wrote:

>
> Yes, it's obviously malformed HTML, but since the ACF cfdump template is
> encoded, I can't reasonably do anything about it.
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Rodney Enke  wrote:
>
> >
> > At this point I would look at bad HTML preceding the cfdump or CSS styles
> > causing the reformatting.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> Nando Breiter
>
> *Aria Media
> via Rompada 40
> 6987 Caslano
> Switzerland
> *
>
>
> 

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Re: CF10 dump bug

[Raymond Camden]

Sent


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 6:37 AM, Nando  wrote:

>
> Ray,
>
> Thanks, but I don't see an attachment. Does the hof list allow them? Maybe
> a direct email to d.na...@gmail.com would work better?
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Raymond Camden  >wrote:
>
> >
> > Here is mine.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 6:14 AM, Nando  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > The bug report I filed now has a status of Withdrawn, Cannot reproduce.
> > So
> > > the only hope I have of fixing this seems to be to get a working copy
> of
> > > dump.cfm from someone ...
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Nando  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ray,
> > > >
> > > > I tried several, all with the same result. But for the screenshot to
> > > > demonstrate the problem for the bug report, I used simply *select *
> > from
> > > > Holiday*. I also tried specifying the fields in a few queries, but it
> > > > didn't make any difference. I tried it both in Chrome and in Safari
> > with
> > > > the same result.
> > > >
> > > > Do you think you send me your dump.cfm file from your CF 10 install?
> > It's
> > > > under WEB-INF > cftags (which I guess you know anyway). I'm patched
> to
> > > > Update 11, current, and I assume you must be as well.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Raymond Camden <
> > > raymondcam...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm definitely not seeing this in my query dumps. Can you share the
> > > query
> > > >> you used? I
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Nando  wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I noticed a bug in cfdump yesterday when dumping a query to a
> > browser
> > > >> > screen. The database fields are shifted one column to the right,
> and
> > > the
> > > >> > data row numbers, instead of being in a column to the left of the
> > > rows,
> > > >> are
> > > >> > splayed out horizontally.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > www.aria-media.com/cfdumpBug.png
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I looked for a bug report but was surprised not to find one, so I
> > > filed
> > > >> one
> > > >> > https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bug&id=3629697. I would
> > > >> assume
> > > >> > others would have run across this quite easily. Anyone else seen
> > this?
> > > >> Am I
> > > >> > the only one?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > --
> > > >> > Nando Breiter
> > > >> >
> > > >> > *Aria Media
> > > >> > via Rompada 40
> > > >> > 6987 Caslano
> > > >> > Switzerland
> > > >> > *
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: docs download

[Raymond Camden]

Ok, I spoke with our docs person and this is whats up.

1) You can still get the PDFs from here:
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/10.0/Installing/index.html

2) The above link is the old style docs. The new style docs do NOT have the
PDF links. That will be fixed.

So long story short - yeah - you can still get the PDFs it is just a bit
difficult to get there if you don't know the way, and that will be
corrected.



On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:45 AM, Raymond Camden wrote:

> I've got a response - waiting for a clarification.
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:12 AM, Nando  wrote:
>
>>
>> Ray,
>>
>> Could you get back to us on this issue. Of late, I've started using
>> http://railodocs.org/ for quick access to general CFML documentation,
>> simply because it's so easily accessible. I'm on AFC tho', and it would be
>> really helpful if CF docs were as easy to find, and as easily accessible,
>> as the Railo docs. The CF docs are better in some ways because of the
>> examples and the more in-depth material. I just wish I could find what I'm
>> looking for without all the digging around.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 9:22 PM, Raymond Camden > >wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Ah, I was going via the site and from what I can see, there is no link
>> to
>> > them anymore, which to me, is a problem I want to fix (and I've already
>> > asked internally).
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Paul Hastings > > >wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > On 9/11/2013 12:57 AM, Raymond Camden wrote:
>>
>
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>
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Re: CF10 dump bug

[Raymond Camden]

Here is mine.


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 6:14 AM, Nando  wrote:

>
> The bug report I filed now has a status of Withdrawn, Cannot reproduce. So
> the only hope I have of fixing this seems to be to get a working copy of
> dump.cfm from someone ...
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Nando  wrote:
>
> > Ray,
> >
> > I tried several, all with the same result. But for the screenshot to
> > demonstrate the problem for the bug report, I used simply *select * from
> > Holiday*. I also tried specifying the fields in a few queries, but it
> > didn't make any difference. I tried it both in Chrome and in Safari with
> > the same result.
> >
> > Do you think you send me your dump.cfm file from your CF 10 install? It's
> > under WEB-INF > cftags (which I guess you know anyway). I'm patched to
> > Update 11, current, and I assume you must be as well.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Raymond Camden <
> raymondcam...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I'm definitely not seeing this in my query dumps. Can you share the
> query
> >> you used? I
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Nando  wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I noticed a bug in cfdump yesterday when dumping a query to a browser
> >> > screen. The database fields are shifted one column to the right, and
> the
> >> > data row numbers, instead of being in a column to the left of the
> rows,
> >> are
> >> > splayed out horizontally.
> >> >
> >> > www.aria-media.com/cfdumpBug.png
> >> >
> >> > I looked for a bug report but was surprised not to find one, so I
> filed
> >> one
> >> > https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bug&id=3629697. I would
> >> assume
> >> > others would have run across this quite easily. Anyone else seen this?
> >> Am I
> >> > the only one?
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Nando Breiter
> >> >
> >> > *Aria Media
> >> > via Rompada 40
> >> > 6987 Caslano
> >> > Switzerland
> >> > *
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
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Re: CF10 dump bug

[Raymond Camden]

I'm definitely not seeing this in my query dumps. Can you share the query
you used? I


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Nando  wrote:

>
> I noticed a bug in cfdump yesterday when dumping a query to a browser
> screen. The database fields are shifted one column to the right, and the
> data row numbers, instead of being in a column to the left of the rows, are
> splayed out horizontally.
>
> www.aria-media.com/cfdumpBug.png
>
> I looked for a bug report but was surprised not to find one, so I filed one
> https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bug&id=3629697. I would assume
> others would have run across this quite easily. Anyone else seen this? Am I
> the only one?
>
> --
> Nando Breiter
>
> *Aria Media
> via Rompada 40
> 6987 Caslano
> Switzerland
> *
>
>
> 

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Re: docs download

[Raymond Camden]

I've got a response - waiting for a clarification.


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:12 AM, Nando  wrote:

>
> Ray,
>
> Could you get back to us on this issue. Of late, I've started using
> http://railodocs.org/ for quick access to general CFML documentation,
> simply because it's so easily accessible. I'm on AFC tho', and it would be
> really helpful if CF docs were as easy to find, and as easily accessible,
> as the Railo docs. The CF docs are better in some ways because of the
> examples and the more in-depth material. I just wish I could find what I'm
> looking for without all the digging around.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 9:22 PM, Raymond Camden  >wrote:
>
> >
> > Ah, I was going via the site and from what I can see, there is no link to
> > them anymore, which to me, is a problem I want to fix (and I've already
> > asked internally).
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Paul Hastings  > >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On 9/11/2013 12:57 AM, Raymond Camden wrote:
>

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Re: docs download

[Raymond Camden]

I'll raise this internally. It looks like the links to the PDFs are gone.


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Michael Dinowitz <
mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote:

>
> Those are the docs, but where are the download links? For that matter,
> where are the previous/next buttons.
> Since the CF community help air app broke I want to get a local copy of the
> docs. Well, local to this machine which has restricted internet access.
>
> Thanks though
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:01 PM, John M Bliss 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I think here...?  https://learn.adobe.com/wiki/display/coldfusionen/Home
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Michael Dinowitz <
> > mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I was over by the adobe site and trying to download the CF docs is
> close
> > to
> > > impossible. Does anyone know the direct addresses for the CF 10 docs?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: docs download

[Raymond Camden]

Ah, I was going via the site and from what I can see, there is no link to
them anymore, which to me, is a problem I want to fix (and I've already
asked internally).


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Paul Hastings wrote:

>
> On 9/11/2013 12:57 AM, Raymond Camden wrote:
> >
> > I'll raise this internally. It looks like the links to the PDFs are gone.
>
> would be nice if the HTML versions were also still available to d/l.
>
>
> 

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Re: docs download

[Raymond Camden]

Where exactly Dave - I didn't see the links.


On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > I'll raise this internally. It looks like the links to the PDFs are gone.
>
> I found them all from the main CF documentation page except for the
> CFML reference, actually.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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>
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Re: commas and autosuggest

[Raymond Camden]

Use the delimiter option of cfinput for now.

My comment about avoiding it wasn't helpful - sorry. As a general FYI, I
avoid the front end UI stuff as much as possible. There are *multiple*
other autosuggest options out there. jQueryUI is one of my favorite, or you
can just go HTML5 with the datalist tag and skip JS completely.


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Monique Boea  wrote:

>
> Yes via input.
>
> Another option?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Raymond Camden  >wrote:
>
> >
> > You didn't say - but are you using autosuggests via cfinput? If so - you
> > can specify another delimiter. Check the CFML Ref for cfinput.
> >
> > And please consider using another option for your front end AJAX-y
> > goodness.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Monique Boea  > >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > hey guys/gals
> > >
> > > how do you deal with commas in values with autosugest?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: commas and autosuggest

[Raymond Camden]

You didn't say - but are you using autosuggests via cfinput? If so - you
can specify another delimiter. Check the CFML Ref for cfinput.

And please consider using another option for your front end AJAX-y
goodness.


On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Monique Boea wrote:

>
> hey guys/gals
>
> how do you deal with commas in values with autosugest?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> 

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Re: cflocation and long urls

[Raymond Camden]

There is a max size for URLs. Some browsers may be more strict about it.


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Rob Voyle  wrote:

>
> Hi folks
>
> I have a long encrypted url stored in a database:
>
> the cgi.query_string is something like
>
> YJShGG8kxBWgJKOlo2z4oTM8jEanxnGNBzw+QBQw8JBtuiQ8Oyn6tc6qmbd+E7W
> vcbfncSF/pq2ttDOdegKnxA==
>
> It works fine if i manually copy the total url from the database to the
> browser,
>
>  however if I use
> 
>
> I get a not found error in firefox IE Chrome whereas Safari it works fine
>
> Any ideas or work arounds?
>
> Thanks
>
> Rob
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Re: Fusion Authority

[Raymond Camden]

I'm sorry - but are you saying that *getting* email makes your machine
crash? My god - what kind of machine are you working on? Is it the email
client? It is... POP in general? That just seems incredible. It is like
saying opening Notepad makes your machine crash.


On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Michael Dinowitz <
mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote:

>
> I'm doing a contract at the NYC Human Resources Administration at the
> moment. I can get mail but not much else. And getting mail crashes my
> machine.
> On a positive note, I've got a number of nice regex patterns to clean up
> and upgrade a whole site at once. Once I find a new apartment and can get
> my main computer plugged in (and maybe repaired) I'll have to write a
> Fusion Authority article on them.
>
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Russ Michaels 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > lol, yet you get lists posts Michael ?
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Michael Dinowitz <
> > mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Patrick,
> > >
> > > We're currently between houses due to a failed move. This includes not
> > > having a phone or reliable internet for the last 3 weeks. I'm calling
> > > Judith to look into this. I'll also look into how you were able to
> > > subscribe as we're either on hiatus or defunct, counting on if you want
> > to
> > > be positive or not. :)
> > >
> > > As an aside, for the time being, the most reliable way for anyone to
> > > contact me is at 917-400-4929.
> > >
> > > Sorry again and we'll get to the bottom of this asap.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Patrick McGough
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Good Morning,
> > > > I am trying to reach out to anyone that could tell me what the status
> > of
> > > > Fusion Authority is.  I purchased a quarterly subscription with
> access
> > to
> > > > all back issues back in June and I can't get a hold of anyone to tell
> > me
> > > > what the status of this is.
> > > >
> > > > I do realize that this is completely off topic, but I was hoping
> > someone
> > > > out there might know someone who might know someone who could help
> me.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you in adavnce.  I can be reached through my hotmail account at
> > > > scruff95athotmaildotcom.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail?

[Raymond Camden]

Going to ping internally.


On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Mark A Kruger wrote:

>
> Here's the bug.
>
> https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bug&id=3369472
>
> I'm going to blog this as well.
>
> -Mark
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:10 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: RE: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail?
>
>
> I haven't tried to send email from my site...But I am using hostek as my
> host and google apps mail for my email.
>
> Eric
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew Scott [mailto:andr...@andyscott.id.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 5:50 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail?
>
>
> I am reaching out to everyone who is using hostek for their hosting, and
> using gmail for your mail, your mail may not be being sent.
>
> There appears to be an issue on their servers at the moment, where mail
> being sent just stops, well for me at least. Also it is possible that some
> people are seeing your mail without you knowing about it.
>
> For example, I have 3 other customers of Hostek who have sent email from
> their hosted website on hostek, sitting in my sent folders. I wont go into
> the implications this has from a security point of view, with details
> sitting in my gmail account about someone else's intended email. But it is
> a
> known bug in ColdFusion that seems to not be that well known, at least
> nothing can be found via a google search any way.
>
>
> Regards,
> Andrew Scott
> WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
> Google+:  http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Do you use Hostek and Gmail for your mail?

[Raymond Camden]

Do you have a bug #?


On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Andrew Scott wrote:

>
> And yes Adobe have known about this bug for over 8+ months.
>
> Regards,
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Re: Syntax is driving me nuts!

[Raymond Camden]

Use structKeyExists.





On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Rick Sanders  wrote:

>
> Hey guys,
>
> I'm trying to add multiple items to a database based on if a check box is
> checked.
>
> This code works fine:
> 
>
> But I want to make sure the box is checked or not. When I do this:
> 
> I get: Element rel_1 is undefined in a Java object of type class
> coldfusion.filter.FormScope.
>
> If I do this:
> 
> I get: Parameter 1 of function IsDefined, which is now form['rel_' & ar],
> must be a syntactically valid variable name.
>
> I'm doing all this in a loop. The form's check boxes are defined as:
> rel_#currentrow#. Then I'm looping around them:
> 
> Numrows comes from the recordcount of the hidden form variable output
> query displaying the checkboxes.
>
> All I need to know is what the right syntax I need to use for IsDefined?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Rick Sanders
> T: 902-401-7689
> W: www.webenergy.ca
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Pausing a loop or query

[Raymond Camden]

Kinda hacky, but:

Use a db table/column for misc crap, or hell, even a server variable, and
save something called:

lastRow, 1

Do a SQL to get 250 addresses starting at row lastRow.

Process your mail.

When done, set lastRow to lastRow + 250.

All of the above would be a CFM hit via cfschedule.



On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Rick Sanders  wrote:

>
> Here's the situation. A client of mine has an email list he sends a flyer
> to once a month to about 5000 addresses. I need to pause after sending 250
> so the server doesn't get flagged for spamming. What's the best way to do
> this?
>
> It's easy to do multiple queries of 250 rows each, but how can I pause for
> say 5 or 10mins in between?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Rick Sanders
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>
>
>
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Re: Using IN() within a cfquery statement

[Raymond Camden]

I'm going to go print this email out right now. For the next time Dave is
wrong. Sometime in 2019.


On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > Dave... I'm surprised. Wouldn't you think that CFQueryParam would be the
> better way?
> >
> > Where stuff in ( cfsqltype="appropriate type" list="yes" separator="," />)
>
> Yes, that would absolutely be a better way, of course! I didn't even
> pay attention to the fact that this was in the form scope.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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Re: I need a CF alternative that supports flash forms

[Raymond Camden]

I'd just tell em that nothing else supports it and the cost of CF STD is <
the cost of asking you to rebuild in HTML forms. (Although rebuilding in
HTML forms would be a HUGE improvement.)


On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Ray Meade  wrote:

>
> I have a client that is using a ColdFusion application that I developed
> several years ago that relies heavily on the use of ColdFusion flash forms.
> They need to find an alternative to the ColdFusion hosting engine because
> of the licensing costs but the only two alternatives I can find is Railo
> and Blue Dragon however neither of these products support ColdFusion flash
> forms. Does anyone know of any CF engine alternative that supports CF flash
> forms, I really don't want to have to redesign 174 pages from scratch if I
> can possibly avoid it. (plus I doubt the client will be willing to pay me
> for the time it will take to convert them to HTML forms)
>
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Re: Issue with CFFeed

[Raymond Camden]

What's fascinating is that as far as I can see, the second URL doesn't have
a comment. Just saving it locally works. I bet the same works for the first
URL too. To be clear, I was able to parse the XML just fine with cfhttp, so
it is valid XML. If you want to work with that and not the cffeed result,
you can skip the file save.


On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Raymond Camden wrote:

> You may want to file a bug report for this too. Although the first feed
> URL fails to validate here http://validator.w3.org/feed/.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Raymond Camden wrote:
>
>> Another option is to remove the comment from the source XML.
>> Unfortunately, cffeed doesn't let you source via a string, so you have to
>> save it still.
>>
>> http://www.computerweekly.com/rss/All-Computer-Weekly-content.xml";>
>>
>>


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Re: Issue with CFFeed

[Raymond Camden]

You may want to file a bug report for this too. Although the first feed URL
fails to validate here http://validator.w3.org/feed/.


On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Raymond Camden wrote:

> Another option is to remove the comment from the source XML.
> Unfortunately, cffeed doesn't let you source via a string, so you have to
> save it still.
>
> http://www.computerweekly.com/rss/All-Computer-Weekly-content.xml";>
>
> 
> 
> ", "")>
> 
> 
> 
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Raymond Camden wrote:
>
>> Just dump cffeed and switch to cfhttp.
>>
>> http://www.computerweekly.com/rss/All-Computer-Weekly-content.xml";>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> You'll have to work with the XML by hand of course.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 5:35 AM, Edward Chanter wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> We recently upgraded to CF10 and a small app we use for importing RSS
>>> feeds
>>> seems to be rejecting certain feeds that worked perfectly fine in CF8.
>>> I've
>>> put details of the feeds and errors below.
>>>
>>> I've googled the problem and saw a blog from Ben Nadel about this issue
>>> when using xmlParse() relating to the byte-order-mark. But it doesn't
>>> really help me when using cffeed. I don't control the RSS feeds so have
>>> no
>>> way to change their syntax to make them work with CF.
>>>
>>> I'm just wondering if anyone else has encountered this problem with
>>> cffeed
>>> in CF10 and knows of a solution?
>>>
>>> The RSS feeds causing problems:
>>> http://www.computerweekly.com/rss/All-Computer-Weekly-content.xml
>>> http://www.nojitter.com/rss
>>> http://www.zdnet.com/news/rss.xml
>>>
>>> They all return the exact same error:
>>> structDetailError: Invalid XML: Error on line 1: Content is not allowed
>>> in
>>> prolog.MessageUnable to parse the feed: Either source specified is
>>> invalid
>>> or feed is
>>> malformed.StackTracecoldfusion.syndication.FeedReader$FeedParseSourceException:
>>> Unable to parse the feed: Either source specified is invalid or feed is
>>> malformed. at
>>> coldfusion.syndication.FeedReader.readFeed(FeedReader.java:173) at
>>> coldfusion.syndication.FeedReader.(FeedReader.java:100) at
>>> coldfusion.tagext.io.FeedTag.doStartTag(FeedTag.java:92) at
>>> coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage._emptyTcfTag(CfJspPage.java:2799) at
>>>
>>> cfimporter2ecfm1618229109._factor1(E:\domains\demo\cc\wwwroot\Simba\news_rss\importer.cfm:182)
>>> at
>>>
>>> cfimporter2ecfm1618229109._factor2(E:\domains\demo\cc\wwwroot\Simba\news_rss\importer.cfm:166)
>>> at
>>>
>>> cfimporter2ecfm1618229109.runPage(E:\domains\demo\cc\wwwroot\Simba\news_rss\importer.cfm:1)
>>> at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage.invoke(CfJspPage.java:244) at
>>> coldfusion.tagext.lang.IncludeTag.doStartTag(IncludeTag.java:444) at
>>> coldfusion.filter.CfincludeFilter.invoke(CfincludeFilter.java:65) at
>>> coldfusion.filter.IpFilter.invoke(IpFilter.java:64) at
>>> coldfusion.filter.ApplicationFilter.invoke(ApplicationFilter.java:428) at
>>>
>>> coldfusion.filter.RequestMonitorFilter.invoke(RequestMonitorFilter.java:48)
>>> at coldfusion.filter.MonitoringFilter.invoke(MonitoringFilter.java:40) at
>>> coldfusion.filter.PathFilter.invoke(PathFilter.java:112) at
>>> coldfusion.filter.ExceptionFilter.invoke(ExceptionFilter.java:94) at
>>> coldfusion.filter.BrowserDebugFilter.invoke(BrowserDebugFilter.java:79)
>>> at
>>>
>>> coldfusion.filter.ClientScopePersistenceFilter.invoke(ClientScopePersistenceFilter.java:28)
>>> at coldfusion.filter.BrowserFilter.invoke(BrowserFilter.java:38) at
>>> coldfusion.filter.NoCacheFilter.invoke(NoCacheFilter.java:46) at
>>> coldfusion.filter.GlobalsFilter.invoke(GlobalsFilter.java:38) at
>>> coldfusion.filter.DatasourceFilter.invoke(DatasourceFilter.java:22) at
>>> coldfusion.filter.CachingFilter.invoke(CachingFilter.java:62) at
>>>
>>> coldfusion.filter.RequestThrottleFilter.invoke(RequestThrottleFilter.java:151)
>>> at coldfusion.CfmServlet.service(CfmServlet.java:219) at
>>> coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapServlet.service(BootstrapServlet.java:89)
>>> at
>>>
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:305)
>>> at
>>>
>>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterC

Re: Issue with CFFeed

[Raymond Camden]

Another option is to remove the comment from the source XML. Unfortunately,
cffeed doesn't let you source via a string, so you have to save it still.

http://www.computerweekly.com/rss/All-Computer-Weekly-content.xml";>



", "")>






On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Raymond Camden wrote:

> Just dump cffeed and switch to cfhttp.
>
> http://www.computerweekly.com/rss/All-Computer-Weekly-content.xml";>
> 
> 
> 
>
> You'll have to work with the XML by hand of course.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 5:35 AM, Edward Chanter  wrote:
>
>>
>> We recently upgraded to CF10 and a small app we use for importing RSS
>> feeds
>> seems to be rejecting certain feeds that worked perfectly fine in CF8.
>> I've
>> put details of the feeds and errors below.
>>
>> I've googled the problem and saw a blog from Ben Nadel about this issue
>> when using xmlParse() relating to the byte-order-mark. But it doesn't
>> really help me when using cffeed. I don't control the RSS feeds so have no
>> way to change their syntax to make them work with CF.
>>
>> I'm just wondering if anyone else has encountered this problem with cffeed
>> in CF10 and knows of a solution?
>>
>> The RSS feeds causing problems:
>> http://www.computerweekly.com/rss/All-Computer-Weekly-content.xml
>> http://www.nojitter.com/rss
>> http://www.zdnet.com/news/rss.xml
>>
>> They all return the exact same error:
>> structDetailError: Invalid XML: Error on line 1: Content is not allowed in
>> prolog.MessageUnable to parse the feed: Either source specified is invalid
>> or feed is
>> malformed.StackTracecoldfusion.syndication.FeedReader$FeedParseSourceException:
>> Unable to parse the feed: Either source specified is invalid or feed is
>> malformed. at
>> coldfusion.syndication.FeedReader.readFeed(FeedReader.java:173) at
>> coldfusion.syndication.FeedReader.(FeedReader.java:100) at
>> coldfusion.tagext.io.FeedTag.doStartTag(FeedTag.java:92) at
>> coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage._emptyTcfTag(CfJspPage.java:2799) at
>>
>> cfimporter2ecfm1618229109._factor1(E:\domains\demo\cc\wwwroot\Simba\news_rss\importer.cfm:182)
>> at
>>
>> cfimporter2ecfm1618229109._factor2(E:\domains\demo\cc\wwwroot\Simba\news_rss\importer.cfm:166)
>> at
>>
>> cfimporter2ecfm1618229109.runPage(E:\domains\demo\cc\wwwroot\Simba\news_rss\importer.cfm:1)
>> at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage.invoke(CfJspPage.java:244) at
>> coldfusion.tagext.lang.IncludeTag.doStartTag(IncludeTag.java:444) at
>> coldfusion.filter.CfincludeFilter.invoke(CfincludeFilter.java:65) at
>> coldfusion.filter.IpFilter.invoke(IpFilter.java:64) at
>> coldfusion.filter.ApplicationFilter.invoke(ApplicationFilter.java:428) at
>>
>> coldfusion.filter.RequestMonitorFilter.invoke(RequestMonitorFilter.java:48)
>> at coldfusion.filter.MonitoringFilter.invoke(MonitoringFilter.java:40) at
>> coldfusion.filter.PathFilter.invoke(PathFilter.java:112) at
>> coldfusion.filter.ExceptionFilter.invoke(ExceptionFilter.java:94) at
>> coldfusion.filter.BrowserDebugFilter.invoke(BrowserDebugFilter.java:79) at
>>
>> coldfusion.filter.ClientScopePersistenceFilter.invoke(ClientScopePersistenceFilter.java:28)
>> at coldfusion.filter.BrowserFilter.invoke(BrowserFilter.java:38) at
>> coldfusion.filter.NoCacheFilter.invoke(NoCacheFilter.java:46) at
>> coldfusion.filter.GlobalsFilter.invoke(GlobalsFilter.java:38) at
>> coldfusion.filter.DatasourceFilter.invoke(DatasourceFilter.java:22) at
>> coldfusion.filter.CachingFilter.invoke(CachingFilter.java:62) at
>>
>> coldfusion.filter.RequestThrottleFilter.invoke(RequestThrottleFilter.java:151)
>> at coldfusion.CfmServlet.service(CfmServlet.java:219) at
>> coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapServlet.service(BootstrapServlet.java:89) at
>>
>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:305)
>> at
>>
>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:210)
>> at
>>
>> coldfusion.monitor.event.MonitoringServletFilter.doFilter(MonitoringServletFilter.java:42)
>> at coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapFilter.doFilter(BootstrapFilter.java:46)
>> at
>>
>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:243)
>> at
>>
>> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:210)
>> at
>>
>> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.java:224)
>> at
>>
>> org.a

Re: Issue with CFFeed

[Raymond Camden]

Just dump cffeed and switch to cfhttp.

http://www.computerweekly.com/rss/All-Computer-Weekly-content.xml";>




You'll have to work with the XML by hand of course.


On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 5:35 AM, Edward Chanter  wrote:

>
> We recently upgraded to CF10 and a small app we use for importing RSS feeds
> seems to be rejecting certain feeds that worked perfectly fine in CF8. I've
> put details of the feeds and errors below.
>
> I've googled the problem and saw a blog from Ben Nadel about this issue
> when using xmlParse() relating to the byte-order-mark. But it doesn't
> really help me when using cffeed. I don't control the RSS feeds so have no
> way to change their syntax to make them work with CF.
>
> I'm just wondering if anyone else has encountered this problem with cffeed
> in CF10 and knows of a solution?
>
> The RSS feeds causing problems:
> http://www.computerweekly.com/rss/All-Computer-Weekly-content.xml
> http://www.nojitter.com/rss
> http://www.zdnet.com/news/rss.xml
>
> They all return the exact same error:
> structDetailError: Invalid XML: Error on line 1: Content is not allowed in
> prolog.MessageUnable to parse the feed: Either source specified is invalid
> or feed is
> malformed.StackTracecoldfusion.syndication.FeedReader$FeedParseSourceException:
> Unable to parse the feed: Either source specified is invalid or feed is
> malformed. at
> coldfusion.syndication.FeedReader.readFeed(FeedReader.java:173) at
> coldfusion.syndication.FeedReader.(FeedReader.java:100) at
> coldfusion.tagext.io.FeedTag.doStartTag(FeedTag.java:92) at
> coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage._emptyTcfTag(CfJspPage.java:2799) at
>
> cfimporter2ecfm1618229109._factor1(E:\domains\demo\cc\wwwroot\Simba\news_rss\importer.cfm:182)
> at
>
> cfimporter2ecfm1618229109._factor2(E:\domains\demo\cc\wwwroot\Simba\news_rss\importer.cfm:166)
> at
>
> cfimporter2ecfm1618229109.runPage(E:\domains\demo\cc\wwwroot\Simba\news_rss\importer.cfm:1)
> at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage.invoke(CfJspPage.java:244) at
> coldfusion.tagext.lang.IncludeTag.doStartTag(IncludeTag.java:444) at
> coldfusion.filter.CfincludeFilter.invoke(CfincludeFilter.java:65) at
> coldfusion.filter.IpFilter.invoke(IpFilter.java:64) at
> coldfusion.filter.ApplicationFilter.invoke(ApplicationFilter.java:428) at
> coldfusion.filter.RequestMonitorFilter.invoke(RequestMonitorFilter.java:48)
> at coldfusion.filter.MonitoringFilter.invoke(MonitoringFilter.java:40) at
> coldfusion.filter.PathFilter.invoke(PathFilter.java:112) at
> coldfusion.filter.ExceptionFilter.invoke(ExceptionFilter.java:94) at
> coldfusion.filter.BrowserDebugFilter.invoke(BrowserDebugFilter.java:79) at
>
> coldfusion.filter.ClientScopePersistenceFilter.invoke(ClientScopePersistenceFilter.java:28)
> at coldfusion.filter.BrowserFilter.invoke(BrowserFilter.java:38) at
> coldfusion.filter.NoCacheFilter.invoke(NoCacheFilter.java:46) at
> coldfusion.filter.GlobalsFilter.invoke(GlobalsFilter.java:38) at
> coldfusion.filter.DatasourceFilter.invoke(DatasourceFilter.java:22) at
> coldfusion.filter.CachingFilter.invoke(CachingFilter.java:62) at
>
> coldfusion.filter.RequestThrottleFilter.invoke(RequestThrottleFilter.java:151)
> at coldfusion.CfmServlet.service(CfmServlet.java:219) at
> coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapServlet.service(BootstrapServlet.java:89) at
>
> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:305)
> at
>
> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:210)
> at
>
> coldfusion.monitor.event.MonitoringServletFilter.doFilter(MonitoringServletFilter.java:42)
> at coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapFilter.doFilter(BootstrapFilter.java:46)
> at
>
> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:243)
> at
>
> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:210)
> at
>
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.java:224)
> at
>
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.java:169)
> at
>
> org.apache.catalina.authenticator.AuthenticatorBase.invoke(AuthenticatorBase.java:472)
> at
>
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:168)
> at
>
> org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:98)
> at
> org.apache.catalina.valves.AccessLogValve.invoke(AccessLogValve.java:928)
> at
>
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineValve.java:118)
> at
> org.apache.catalina.connector.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:414)
> at org.apache.coyote.ajp.AjpProcessor.process(AjpProcessor.java:204) at
>
> org.apache.coyote.AbstractProtocol$AbstractConnectionHandler.process(AbstractProtocol.java:539)
> at
>
> org.apache.tomcat.util.net.JIoEndpoint$SocketProcessor.run(JIoEndpoint.java:298)
> at
>
> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1145)
> at
>
> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worke

Re: JSON Encoding bug (again...)

[Raymond Camden]

Not that it helps, but the same happens in CF10 as well.


On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Brook Davies  wrote:

>
> I have had to do so many hacks to get serializeJSON() to play nice. I add a
> "~" to all yes/no strings so I don't get back true/false values, I have a
> series of regular expressions that quote values in the resulting JSON that
> don't get quoted and break on the client side. And now I have this issue:
>
> 
> 
>
> Which outputs:
>
> {"TESTVAL":6.0E-4}
>
> WTF?
>
>  I am using CF 9,0,1,274733
> Update Level /C:/ColdFusion9/lib/updates/hf901-4.jar
>
> Anybody know of a workaround for this? The source data is in a query which
> gets serialized after being converted to an array of structs. It would be
> too slow to check each field for values like this and modify them to return
> to the client. I need another Idea. Anyone?
>
> Brook
>
>
>
> 

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Re: cfdocument NullPointerException with form field input type = file

[Raymond Camden]

Not that it helps - but I can confirm it. Since you can't build interactive
forms with cfdocument anyway, why not just replace type="file" with
type="text" before you cfdocument it?


On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Britton Powers  wrote:

>
> We have an app that allows users to create a PDF of pages in the
> application. It uses cfdocument for this functionality.
>
> Today a user reported they couldn't PDF one of the pages. We get this
> error:
> coldfusion.document.spi.DocumentExportException:
> java.lang.NullPointerException.
>
> Other page PDF's are working fine in this application, so I removed
> various sections from the non-PDF-able page to see what specific part of
> the page might be causing the issue. The page contains an html form, and it
> turned out that if I removed one of the form controls -- a form input of
> type "file" (a file upload control) -- then the PDF is created successfully.
>
> I then made a small test page with just an html form and one input field,
> and get the same error. If the field is an input type "file" then
> cfdocument won't make the PDF. Any other type of form input control seems
> fine.
>
> We're not trying to create interactive pdf forms or anything, just a PDF
> image of a web page that happens to have a form with some controls.
>
> This is on CF 9.0.1 on Windows Server 2008.
>
> Has anyone seen a workaround or have any ideas? I tried setting the mime
> type and a few other things but nothing worked.
>
> 

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Re: 365 Challenge: Photo of the day

[Raymond Camden]

God - even simpler. Just use an existing photosite that has an API. Yeah,
just do that. ;) Hell, even in just Facebook you can share to a particular
album. I'm sure FB lets you embed an album.


On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> Your phone can already upload your photos to google drive or picassa by
> default and there apps for other cloud storage.
> So all your app has to do is get the images from there and fisplay them.
> All the cloud services have api's for this so should be real simple.
>
> Russ Michaels
> www.michaels.me.uk
> cfmldeveloper.com
> cflive.net
> cfsearch.com
> On 29 Jul 2013 01:12, "Matthew Lowrey"  wrote:
>
> >
> > Fellow CF Devs:
> >
> > I have a challenge I have decided to take on starting January 2014 and I
> > need some help to prepare for it.
> >
> > What the challenge is, if you're not familiar with 365 Challenges, is
> > every day you do something.  For me, it's sharing a different picture
> each
> > day.
> >
> > What I would like to do is take a picture with my smartphone (Android),
> > add a title, some text like a caption about that particular photo, upload
> > it to some sort of photo site (Picasa's fine) and then it automatically
> > show up on my website.
> >
> > I'm looking for the easiest way to do this without having to do much
> > except take the picture, enter some text, and that's it.  I know I could
> > have some sort of way to upload it to a db through my hosting company and
> > then have a timestamp for what day it's to show up on, but I'm trying to
> > save the image/caption on some free third party site to keep me from
> > filling up my memory quota if at all possible.
> >
> > Anyone have any ideas one how to go about this the best way?  Here's sort
> > of what my idea is currently:
> >
> > Android Phone -> Take Picture -> Add Text -> Save to Some Photo App (App
> > has ability to post on a particular date) -> Shows up on widget on my
> > website on that particular date.
> >
> > My backup plan would be:
> > Android Phone -> Take Picture -> Add Text -> Use some method / app to
> > upload information to my db -> Use fancybox photo jquery viewer
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: 365 Challenge: Photo of the day

[Raymond Camden]

I'm curious - if you have a server with a database, why are you concerned
about the size of the captions? They will be tiny compared to the pictures.

All in all - this would be trivial with PhoneGap. And hell - if you are ok
with more modern Android/iOS, you can skip PhoneGap altogether and just use
a regular HTML form. See:
http://www.raymondcamden.com/index.cfm/2013/5/20/Capturing-camerapicture-data-without-PhoneGap



On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Matthew Lowrey  wrote:

>
> Fellow CF Devs:
>
> I have a challenge I have decided to take on starting January 2014 and I
> need some help to prepare for it.
>
> What the challenge is, if you're not familiar with 365 Challenges, is
> every day you do something.  For me, it's sharing a different picture each
> day.
>
> What I would like to do is take a picture with my smartphone (Android),
> add a title, some text like a caption about that particular photo, upload
> it to some sort of photo site (Picasa's fine) and then it automatically
> show up on my website.
>
> I'm looking for the easiest way to do this without having to do much
> except take the picture, enter some text, and that's it.  I know I could
> have some sort of way to upload it to a db through my hosting company and
> then have a timestamp for what day it's to show up on, but I'm trying to
> save the image/caption on some free third party site to keep me from
> filling up my memory quota if at all possible.
>
> Anyone have any ideas one how to go about this the best way?  Here's sort
> of what my idea is currently:
>
> Android Phone -> Take Picture -> Add Text -> Save to Some Photo App (App
> has ability to post on a particular date) -> Shows up on widget on my
> website on that particular date.
>
> My backup plan would be:
> Android Phone -> Take Picture -> Add Text -> Use some method / app to
> upload information to my db -> Use fancybox photo jquery viewer
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> 

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Re: Developer of http://www.hayneedle.com

[Raymond Camden]

I know UPS has an API for the labels - I built a wrapper for that once
(amongst other parts of the UPS API). UPS has horrible documentation
though. Ok, not horrible per se - just a horrible _package_ for their docs.
Instead of a PDF, it is some fancy PDF "package" type thing that forces you
to go into and out of books for every chapter or some such. Basically - a
real pain in the rear for folks who want to quickly scan the docs.


On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Robert Harrison <
rob...@austin-williams.com> wrote:

>
> > Out of curiosity, what was the feature that you liked?
>
> Among other things they had a great system for product returns and, from
> what I've seen, a really good system for printing calculating shipping and
> printing shipping labels from UPS and FedEx. I'm sure there's an API for
> that, but it's well implemented. The site is also very smooth on the
> user-interface side.
>
> For me though, it's the shipping API interface I'm interested in. I have a
> similar need for my own site could probably speed up development time by
> working with someone whose already done that.
>
>
> Robert Harrison
> Director of Interactive Services
>
> Austin & Williams
> Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct
> 125 Kennedy Drive,  Suite 100   I  Hauppauge, NY 11788
> T 631.231.6600 X 119   F 631.434.7022
> http://www.austin-williams.com
>
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> Twitter:  http://www.twitter.com/austin_
>
> 

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Re: "diff" processor

[Raymond Camden]

Try http://www.riaforge.org/index.cfm?event=page.search#diff_catid=1


On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Justin Scott wrote:

>
> Hello all, I am curious if anyone has recommendations on a "diff"
> system (e.g. pass in two blocks of text/code and it returns a marked
> up combination showing the differences similar to the edits display on
> Stack Overflow, change tracker in MS Word, or the output that Beyond
> Compare shows).  Use case is a "policy" editor where they want to
> allow people to propose changes to rather long internal policies and
> then show an administrator the proposed edits and point out where
> changes have been made to make reviewing easier.  My Google-fu must be
> weak as I'm not finding anything, but I'd take recommendations on a
> CF-based solution, or even a Java or .Net solution I can import if
> available.  Thanks in advance, and have a great weekend!
>
>
> -Justin Scott
>
> 

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Re: how to detect null value from QoQ result

[Raymond Camden]

I'm confused. When you cfdump the query result, what exactly are you
seeing? Are you seeing a zero-record query or a one row result with no
value? Either my answer or AJ's should have worked.


On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Nathan Chen  wrote:

>
> I did try that before but wouldn't work. Yes, it drives me crazy.
>
> Nathan
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcam...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 9:46 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: how to detect null value from QoQ result
>
>
> Maybe I'm crazy, but can't you just do
>
> 
> Nothing returned, dude!
> 
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Nathan Chen  wrote:
>
> >
> > All:
> >
> > I have a simple query of query as follow:
> >  Select count(*) as r_count
> > from myAnotherQuery Where [some where clause] 
> >
> > I want the result to be dislayed as zero If it returns no records, So
> > I use val() function #val(myQuery.r_count)#, but
> > it doesn't work; it returns an empty string, not zero when no records
> > are returned. Is there a quick way to detect the null and return 0?
> >
> > Nathan
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 

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Re: how to detect null value from QoQ result

[Raymond Camden]

Maybe I'm crazy, but can't you just do


Nothing returned, dude!



On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Nathan Chen  wrote:

>
> All:
>
> I have a simple query of query as follow:
> 
> Select count(*) as r_count from myAnotherQuery
> Where [some where clause]
> 
>
> I want the result to be dislayed as zero If it returns no records, So I
> use val() function #val(myQuery.r_count)#, but it
> doesn't work; it returns an empty string, not zero when no records are
> returned. Is there a quick way to detect the null and return 0?
>
> Nathan
>
>
> 

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Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

[Raymond Camden]

On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Mike K  wrote:

>
> Adobe really have no clue how to support and market any server products.
>   I said that when i saw what a fiasco the forms product was for them,  now
> it looks like ColdFusion is 'deprecated' too.
>


*sigh*

Let me repeat myself.

The ColdFusion team is working on 11. Right now.
The ColdFusion team is working on an update to ColdFusion Builder. Right
now.

If you want to consider the removal of *file* support from one product as
MORE IMPORTANT then the actual product itself - so be it.


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Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

[Raymond Camden]

I'll point out that if you don't want to use an Eclipse-based IDE (I don't
- I've been honest about that the last few years), you can get CFML support
in Sublime (not free, but cheap), and in Brackets (free, and epic).


On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Wil Genovese  wrote:

>
> I think some of the complaining is from people that 'fear' learning an
> Eclipse style IDE. At the Twin Cities CFUG a week ago a few people
> expressed that they didn't want to learn such a complicated IDE. That and
> having to actually pay for software came up again. I did point out the free
> edition.
>
> I think there will always be a segment that wants free software that is
> simply a text type editor. That's fine, but others like myself do want a
> powerful IDE.
>
>
> Wil Genovese
> Sr. Web Application Developer/
> Systems Administrator
> CF Webtools
> www.cfwebtools.com
>
> wilg...@trunkful.com
> www.trunkful.com
>
> On Jun 18, 2013, at 1:02 PM, Raymond Camden 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Details on free version of ColdFusion Builder:
> >
> >
> http://cfdocyard.blogspot.com/2011/05/coldfusion-builder-express-edition-free.html
> >
> > Note this is from two years ago.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Raymond Camden  >wrote:
> >
> >> Um, no, you don't have to buy ColdFusion Builder. There is a free
> edition.
> >> And yes - we've already announced plans for an update.
> >>
> >> So - there ya go. No need to panic - again - right?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Wil Genovese  >wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I've never been and never will be a designer and thus a Dreamweaver
> user.
> >>> I would never want to use Dreamweaver to write server side code. I say
> >>> leave Dreamweaver to designers.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Wil Genovese
> >>> Sr. Web Application Developer/
> >>> Systems Administrator
> >>> CF Webtools
> >>> www.cfwebtools.com
> >>>
> >>> wilg...@trunkful.com
> >>> www.trunkful.com
> >>>
> >>> On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Russ Michaels 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> sadly this is true, they have dropped CF support in DW, you have to
> buy
> >>>> CFBuilder now if you want a CF IDE.
> >>>> Very annoying as I liked DW
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Mike K 
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Have I missed something here?   I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to
> >>>>> Dreamweaver CC and  ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There are no CFM file types,  no tag hinting or code completion etc
> for
> >>>>> ColdFusion, apparently.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Unless I've missed something somewhere and I have to change a setting
> >>> or
> >>>>> install an extension or something.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Has anyone else found a fix for this?   Or have I got it wrong?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Cheers
> >>>>> Mike Kear
> >>>>> Windsor, NSW, Australia
> >>>>> Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
> >>>>> AFP Webworks
> >>>>> http://afpwebworks.com
> >>>>> ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

[Raymond Camden]

Details on free version of ColdFusion Builder:

http://cfdocyard.blogspot.com/2011/05/coldfusion-builder-express-edition-free.html

Note this is from two years ago.


On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Raymond Camden wrote:

> Um, no, you don't have to buy ColdFusion Builder. There is a free edition.
> And yes - we've already announced plans for an update.
>
> So - there ya go. No need to panic - again - right?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Wil Genovese wrote:
>
>>
>> I've never been and never will be a designer and thus a Dreamweaver user.
>> I would never want to use Dreamweaver to write server side code. I say
>> leave Dreamweaver to designers.
>>
>>
>>
>> Wil Genovese
>> Sr. Web Application Developer/
>> Systems Administrator
>> CF Webtools
>> www.cfwebtools.com
>>
>> wilg...@trunkful.com
>> www.trunkful.com
>>
>> On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Russ Michaels  wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > sadly this is true, they have dropped CF support in DW, you have to buy
>> > CFBuilder now if you want a CF IDE.
>> > Very annoying as I liked DW
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Mike K  wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Have I missed something here?   I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to
>> >> Dreamweaver CC and  ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently.
>> >>
>> >> There are no CFM file types,  no tag hinting or code completion etc for
>> >> ColdFusion, apparently.
>> >>
>> >> Unless I've missed something somewhere and I have to change a setting
>> or
>> >> install an extension or something.
>> >>
>> >> Has anyone else found a fix for this?   Or have I got it wrong?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Cheers
>> >> Mike Kear
>> >> Windsor, NSW, Australia
>> >> Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
>> >> AFP Webworks
>> >> http://afpwebworks.com
>> >> ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>> 

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Re: Adobe no longer supports ColdFusion??? Really?

[Raymond Camden]

Um, no, you don't have to buy ColdFusion Builder. There is a free edition.
And yes - we've already announced plans for an update.

So - there ya go. No need to panic - again - right?



On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Wil Genovese  wrote:

>
> I've never been and never will be a designer and thus a Dreamweaver user.
> I would never want to use Dreamweaver to write server side code. I say
> leave Dreamweaver to designers.
>
>
>
> Wil Genovese
> Sr. Web Application Developer/
> Systems Administrator
> CF Webtools
> www.cfwebtools.com
>
> wilg...@trunkful.com
> www.trunkful.com
>
> On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Russ Michaels  wrote:
>
> >
> > sadly this is true, they have dropped CF support in DW, you have to buy
> > CFBuilder now if you want a CF IDE.
> > Very annoying as I liked DW
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Mike K  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Have I missed something here?   I upgraded my Dreamweaver CS6 to
> >> Dreamweaver CC and  ColdFusion is no longer supported apparently.
> >>
> >> There are no CFM file types,  no tag hinting or code completion etc for
> >> ColdFusion, apparently.
> >>
> >> Unless I've missed something somewhere and I have to change a setting or
> >> install an extension or something.
> >>
> >> Has anyone else found a fix for this?   Or have I got it wrong?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cheers
> >> Mike Kear
> >> Windsor, NSW, Australia
> >> Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
> >> AFP Webworks
> >> http://afpwebworks.com
> >> ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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