Re: (OT): The +.htr bug strikes again becomes categorically executing want to be dev
I am being anal, but you are misconstruing the Robin Hood legend. He did not steal from the "rich". He stole from the government that was overtaxing the citizens. It may seem only a semantic difference, but it is actually a huge difference. Your telling of the story would make Robin evil in my eyes...and we couldn't have that. ;-) wow this is way off topic... jon Kinda like Robin Hood (stealing from the rich...) only without giving it to the poor A to steal from the corporate and give to me... ahem...not steal...i mispoke myself..."borrow permanantly". Miles. cf_sarcasm Yes what were you thinking putting us at the mercy of these ruthless and criminally minded developers. In fact i propose that all developers on this list be executed immediately to offset any danger to world democracy or the groovy capitalist system that lets us all make lots of money in the IT world. Granted many of us are not the kind of wicked, Dr. Evil type of developers, but hell why take the chance, its just not worth it. I further propose that the word coldfusion be banned as subversive and against god ---woe unto him that hath developed in a wicked way /cf_sarcasm ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: (OT): The +.htr bug strikes again becomes categorically executing want to be dev
I am being anal, but you are misconstruing the Robin Hood legend. He did not steal from the "rich". He stole from the government Isn't the government rich? The saying is "Steal from the Rich and Give to the Poor." The "rich" is just referring to anyone with too much money, so they piss it all way. To make this a little bit of a CF threadanyone know if there are downsides to setting up your own client database and using that instead of storing client data in the two tables generated by CF? --Greg - Original Message - From: "Jon Hall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 10:20 AM Subject: Re: (OT): The +.htr bug strikes again becomes categorically executing want to be dev I am being anal, but you are misconstruing the Robin Hood legend. He did not steal from the "rich". He stole from the government that was overtaxing the citizens. It may seem only a semantic difference, but it is actually a huge difference. Your telling of the story would make Robin evil in my eyes...and we couldn't have that. ;-) wow this is way off topic... jon Kinda like Robin Hood (stealing from the rich...) only without giving it to the poor A to steal from the corporate and give to me... ahem...not steal...i mispoke myself..."borrow permanantly". Miles. cf_sarcasm Yes what were you thinking putting us at the mercy of these ruthless and criminally minded developers. In fact i propose that all developers on this list be executed immediately to offset any danger to world democracy or the groovy capitalist system that lets us all make lots of money in the IT world. Granted many of us are not the kind of wicked, Dr. Evil type of developers, but hell why take the chance, its just not worth it. I further propose that the word coldfusion be banned as subversive and against god ---woe unto him that hath developed in a wicked way /cf_sarcasm ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: (OT): The +.htr bug strikes again becomes categorically executing want to be dev
When CF sets up the client variable storage tables, it uses whatever DSN you tell it to use. Setting up your own database, adding the tables with the appropriate fields, then setting CF to use that DSN is exactly the same thing - it should have no deleterious effect, other than using up a few extra minutes of your time :-) Happy Holidays! Jeff Beer Senior Programmer Architect Hydrogen Media, Inc (727) 530-5500 x303 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 10:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: (OT): The +.htr bug strikes again becomes categorically executing want to be dev I am being anal, but you are misconstruing the Robin Hood legend. He did not steal from the "rich". He stole from the government Isn't the government rich? The saying is "Steal from the Rich and Give to the Poor." The "rich" is just referring to anyone with too much money, so they piss it all way. To make this a little bit of a CF threadanyone know if there are downsides to setting up your own client database and using that instead of storing client data in the two tables generated by CF? --Greg - Original Message - From: "Jon Hall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 10:20 AM Subject: Re: (OT): The +.htr bug strikes again becomes categorically executing want to be dev I am being anal, but you are misconstruing the Robin Hood legend. He did not steal from the "rich". He stole from the government that was overtaxing the citizens. It may seem only a semantic difference, but it is actually a huge difference. Your telling of the story would make Robin evil in my eyes...and we couldn't have that. ;-) wow this is way off topic... jon Kinda like Robin Hood (stealing from the rich...) only without giving it to the poor A to steal from the corporate and give to me... ahem...not steal...i mispoke myself..."borrow permanantly". Miles. cf_sarcasm Yes what were you thinking putting us at the mercy of these ruthless and criminally minded developers. In fact i propose that all developers on this list be executed immediately to offset any danger to world democracy or the groovy capitalist system that lets us all make lots of money in the IT world. Granted many of us are not the kind of wicked, Dr. Evil type of developers, but hell why take the chance, its just not worth it. I further propose that the word coldfusion be banned as subversive and against god ---woe unto him that hath developed in a wicked way /cf_sarcasm ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: (OT): The +.htr bug strikes again becomes categorically executing want to be dev
LOL. But actually, you are right. But aren't big corporations running the governement now anyway? They have been for 40 years. Alas, it will probably get worse now that President (S)elect Bush is in office. -Gary -Original Message- From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 9:20 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: (OT): The +.htr bug strikes again becomes categorically executing want to be dev I am being anal, but you are misconstruing the Robin Hood legend. He did not steal from the "rich". He stole from the government that was overtaxing the citizens. It may seem only a semantic difference, but it is actually a huge difference. Your telling of the story would make Robin evil in my eyes...and we couldn't have that. ;-) wow this is way off topic... jon Kinda like Robin Hood (stealing from the rich...) only without giving it to the poor A to steal from the corporate and give to me... ahem...not steal...i mispoke myself..."borrow permanantly". Miles. cf_sarcasm Yes what were you thinking putting us at the mercy of these ruthless and criminally minded developers. In fact i propose that all developers on this list be executed immediately to offset any danger to world democracy or the groovy capitalist system that lets us all make lots of money in the IT world. Granted many of us are not the kind of wicked, Dr. Evil type of developers, but hell why take the chance, its just not worth it. I further propose that the word coldfusion be banned as subversive and against god ---woe unto him that hath developed in a wicked way /cf_sarcasm ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: (OT): The +.htr bug strikes again becomes categorically executing want to be dev
Hey Eric, I am sending you a package in the mail. It will be in a plain brown wrapper with a return address like Ed McMahon and Company, that sounds like you may have won a lot of money. Just pick it up and shake it violently before ripping it open. Think of it as a holiday present. (Note: Please do not open around children or family members. Also, you may want to call a bunch of your developer friends and gather BEFORE opening it. BIG SURPRISE inside. (thinking to self) Okay. One (or more) less developer(s) means $125 an hour x 1.45 to 2. If I send out 500 of these at a cost of -Gary -Original Message- From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 3:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: (OT): The +.htr bug strikes again becomes categorically executing want to be dev I wonder how the categorical execution of developers would influence the hourly rates we could work for. I mean think about it. If each developer executes one developer, the demand wouldn't change, so our rates would explode. maybe 10x what is currently available. E From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: The +.htr bug strikes again Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 15:05:49 -0800 cf_sarcasm Yes what were you thinking putting us at the mercy of these ruthless and criminally minded developers. In fact i propose that all developers on this list be executed immediately to offset any danger to world democracy or the groovy capitalist system that lets us all make lots of money in the IT world. Granted many of us are not the kind of wicked, Dr. Evil type of developers, but hell why take the chance, its just not worth it. I further propose that the word coldfusion be banned as subversive and against god ---woe unto him that hath developed in a wicked way /cf_sarcasm #code.monkey# ** Original Subject: RE: The +.htr bug strikes again ** Original Sender: Billy Cravens [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Original Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 15:20:27 -0500 ** Original Message follows... Don't you think it would have been better to wait until after Hasbro patched it to alert a list of hundreds of developers? I often run across cf sites with the htr bug (it's hardly uncommon). I usually email the webmaster personally, as opposed to the "Hey guys! Look what I found!" Just out of curiosity (nothing against you Kevin): what are the legal implications for something like this? Even if it's just a hole which a person could find on their own, can pointing it out be a cause for liability? -- Billy Cravens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin Schmidt wrote: Check out Hasbro Interactive. They run entirely CF and haven't patched the +.htr bug yet. I alerted them to this fact. Kevin Schmidt, Web Technology Manager Allaire Certified Cold Fusion Developer pwb inc. integrated marketing communications 350 S. Main St., Suite 350 Ann Arbor, MI 48104 734.995.5000 (tel) 734.995.5002 (fax) www.pwb.com ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: WAY (OT): The +.htr bug strikes again becomes categorically executing want to be dev
Yes, the government tends to throw away too much money. For an example, my company's primary product is a client/server client and service management system that we sell to many state government agencies. We, of course, provide tech support for our customers. It amazes me how many calls we get from "system administrators" that probably get paid twice what I do, that don't even know how to do basic Windows networking. The most extreme example is where the new "systems administrator" from the largest and the most well funded state level government agency in the country, in our particular niche, E-mailed one of our tech-support guys to ask him what his E-mail address is . and this is the agency that is charged with overseeing all other such agencies in the state. Your tax dollars at work, ladies and gents. :) Todd - Original Message - From: "Greg Wolfinger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 10:45 AM Subject: Re: (OT): The +.htr bug strikes again becomes categorically executing want to be dev I am being anal, but you are misconstruing the Robin Hood legend. He did not steal from the "rich". He stole from the government Isn't the government rich? The saying is "Steal from the Rich and Give to the Poor." The "rich" is just referring to anyone with too much money, so they piss it all way. To make this a little bit of a CF threadanyone know if there are downsides to setting up your own client database and using that instead of storing client data in the two tables generated by CF? --Greg - Original Message - From: "Jon Hall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 10:20 AM Subject: Re: (OT): The +.htr bug strikes again becomes categorically executing want to be dev I am being anal, but you are misconstruing the Robin Hood legend. He did not steal from the "rich". He stole from the government that was overtaxing the citizens. It may seem only a semantic difference, but it is actually a huge difference. Your telling of the story would make Robin evil in my eyes...and we couldn't have that. ;-) wow this is way off topic... jon Kinda like Robin Hood (stealing from the rich...) only without giving it to the poor A to steal from the corporate and give to me... ahem...not steal...i mispoke myself..."borrow permanantly". Miles. cf_sarcasm Yes what were you thinking putting us at the mercy of these ruthless and criminally minded developers. In fact i propose that all developers on this list be executed immediately to offset any danger to world democracy or the groovy capitalist system that lets us all make lots of money in the IT world. Granted many of us are not the kind of wicked, Dr. Evil type of developers, but hell why take the chance, its just not worth it. I further propose that the word coldfusion be banned as subversive and against god ---woe unto him that hath developed in a wicked way /cf_sarcasm ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
(OT): The +.htr bug strikes again becomes categorically executing want to be dev
I wonder how the categorical execution of developers would influence the hourly rates we could work for. I mean think about it. If each developer executes one developer, the demand wouldn't change, so our rates would explode. maybe 10x what is currently available. E From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: The +.htr bug strikes again Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 15:05:49 -0800 cf_sarcasm Yes what were you thinking putting us at the mercy of these ruthless and criminally minded developers. In fact i propose that all developers on this list be executed immediately to offset any danger to world democracy or the groovy capitalist system that lets us all make lots of money in the IT world. Granted many of us are not the kind of wicked, Dr. Evil type of developers, but hell why take the chance, its just not worth it. I further propose that the word coldfusion be banned as subversive and against god ---woe unto him that hath developed in a wicked way /cf_sarcasm #code.monkey# ** Original Subject: RE: The +.htr bug strikes again ** Original Sender: Billy Cravens [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Original Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 15:20:27 -0500 ** Original Message follows... Don't you think it would have been better to wait until after Hasbro patched it to alert a list of hundreds of developers? I often run across cf sites with the htr bug (it's hardly uncommon). I usually email the webmaster personally, as opposed to the "Hey guys! Look what I found!" Just out of curiosity (nothing against you Kevin): what are the legal implications for something like this? Even if it's just a hole which a person could find on their own, can pointing it out be a cause for liability? -- Billy Cravens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin Schmidt wrote: Check out Hasbro Interactive. They run entirely CF and haven't patched the +.htr bug yet. I alerted them to this fact. Kevin Schmidt, Web Technology Manager Allaire Certified Cold Fusion Developer pwb inc. integrated marketing communications 350 S. Main St., Suite 350 Ann Arbor, MI 48104 734.995.5000 (tel) 734.995.5002 (fax) www.pwb.com ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: (OT): The +.htr bug strikes again becomes categorically executing want to be dev
Hmmm...I dont know about you folks but Im not adverse to a lil corporate raping and pilliaging now and again... They're out to get your money any way possible. I think it my civic duty to tap them for everything I can get! Kinda like Robin Hood (stealing from the rich...) only without giving it to the poor A to steal from the corporate and give to me... ahem...not steal...i mispoke myself..."borrow permanantly". Miles. cf_sarcasm Yes what were you thinking putting us at the mercy of these ruthless and criminally minded developers. In fact i propose that all developers on this list be executed immediately to offset any danger to world democracy or the groovy capitalist system that lets us all make lots of money in the IT world. Granted many of us are not the kind of wicked, Dr. Evil type of developers, but hell why take the chance, its just not worth it. I further propose that the word coldfusion be banned as subversive and against god ---woe unto him that hath developed in a wicked way /cf_sarcasm ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
