Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

[John James]

>Exceeded transfer limit is what I got.
>
>Yves
>
>On 3/13/07, John James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>

I am hosting this on Geocities for free. There is an hourly transfer limit, 
once that is exceeded this message will be displayed. Try it again a little 
while later and it should work.

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Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

[Yves Arsenault]

Exceeded transfer limit is what I got.

Yves

On 3/13/07, John James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have created a patch tool to do this automatically for CFMX 7.
> (http://www.geocities.com/cibert88/cfmx_dst_update.zip)
> It wraps the JVM patches into an installer for Windows.
> Sorry, I am posting this late.
> As allways make backups and you are responsible for your actions.
>
> Best,
> Ci
>
> 

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Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

[John James]

I have created a patch tool to do this automatically for CFMX 7.
(http://www.geocities.com/cibert88/cfmx_dst_update.zip)
It wraps the JVM patches into an installer for Windows.
Sorry, I am posting this late.
As allways make backups and you are responsible for your actions.

Best,
Ci

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Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

[Josh Nathanson]

Here is a link to the archives, where you can get 1.4.2_11 -- it's hard to 
find.  Otherwise the earliest you can get is 1.4.2_13

http://java.sun.com/products/archive/

-- Josh


- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)


> Hi Ben,
>
> I'm looking on sun's site for the 1.4.2_11, but can't find it. All I can
> find is SE JDK 6. six?! I'm confused. I'm always confused when I go to
> sun's site for the latest JRE. Could you (or anyone really) give me a
> link that points me to the download site, and tell me if I need the
> entire SDK (JDK?), or just the JRE?
>
> Thanks heaps,
> Chris
>
> Ben Mueller wrote:
>> Sun's website appears to have 1.4.2_13 as the latest.  Are we safe 
>> installing that version, or should we stick to 1.4.2_11?  We're running 
>> CFMX 7.  Our hosting company said we should install 1.4.2_11, but I've 
>> also heard that we should always install the latest, so I'm not sure 
>> quite what to do.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ben
>>
>>
>>
>>> Thanks for the info!
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 12:21 PM
>>> To: CF-Talk
>>> Subject: Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)
>>>
>>> Rick Faircloth wrote:
>>>
>>>> the Java install that comes (for me anyway) from Sun?  Just download
>>>> and install the latest JDK from there?
>>>>
>>> following adobe's advice on this probably is a good idea, so no, not the
>>> latest
>>> version (1.5/1.6) but the latest version that adobe says is ok w/cf,
>>> 1.4.2_11 or
>>> "later" as damon the slave driver says on his blog:
>>>
>>> http://www.dcooper.org/blog/client/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=287B2577-4E22-
>>> 1671-5265508349E9FEBD
>>>
>>
>>
>
> 

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Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

[Josh Nathanson]

No, you're not blind, it's hard to find.  The link to the older versions is 
way down at the bottom of the page.  And yes, you need the full SDK.  That 
messed me up at first.  If you just get the JRE it doesn't include the 
server switch or some such thing.

-- Josh


- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)


> Okay, so I just googled 1.4.2_11 and got the site, but I'll be damned if
> I couldn't find it by going to sun.com and looking for it from there. I
> guess I must be blind.
>
> Chris
>
> Ben Mueller wrote:
>> Sun's website appears to have 1.4.2_13 as the latest.  Are we safe 
>> installing that version, or should we stick to 1.4.2_11?  We're running 
>> CFMX 7.  Our hosting company said we should install 1.4.2_11, but I've 
>> also heard that we should always install the latest, so I'm not sure 
>> quite what to do.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ben
>>
>>
>>
>>> Thanks for the info!
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 12:21 PM
>>> To: CF-Talk
>>> Subject: Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)
>>>
>>> Rick Faircloth wrote:
>>>
>>>> the Java install that comes (for me anyway) from Sun?  Just download
>>>> and install the latest JDK from there?
>>>>
>>> following adobe's advice on this probably is a good idea, so no, not the
>>> latest
>>> version (1.5/1.6) but the latest version that adobe says is ok w/cf,
>>> 1.4.2_11 or
>>> "later" as damon the slave driver says on his blog:
>>>
>>> http://www.dcooper.org/blog/client/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=287B2577-4E22-
>>> 1671-5265508349E9FEBD
>>>
>>
>>
>
> 

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RE: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

[Brad Wood]

Read Adobie's Tech Note on the issue.  That gives you the link and tells
you which one to download.

Here is Ben Forta's blog with the links to the Tech notes:
http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/2/6/ColdFusion-And-Daylight-Sav
ings-Time-Changes

If you have 6.1, you will need to install at least updater 1.  If you
have 7, you will need to install at least updater two (7.0.2)

The new JVM can be found at:
http://java.sun.com/products/archive/index.html.

According to the tech note you want the full SDK version.  Look at the
8th drop down from the top of the page which says " J2SDK/J2RE - 1.4"
Select 1.4.2_11 from the list with is the SECOND from the top in the
drop down.
According to the tech note you want 11, which is the latest version
tested with CF, but NOT necessary the latest version out.

Then download the appropriate version depending on whether you have
windows or Linux; 32 bit or 64 bit etc.

Once you install the new JRE, point your server to it in the jvm.config
file and restart the CF services.

Also make sure you have the OS on that server patched, or updated for
the new DST as well.

Hope that helps.

~Brad

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 4:57 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

Hi Ben,

I'm looking on sun's site for the 1.4.2_11, but can't find it. All I can

find is SE JDK 6. six?! I'm confused. I'm always confused when I go to 
sun's site for the latest JRE. Could you (or anyone really) give me a 
link that points me to the download site, and tell me if I need the 
entire SDK (JDK?), or just the JRE?

Thanks heaps,
Chris

Ben Mueller wrote:
> Sun's website appears to have 1.4.2_13 as the latest.  Are we safe
installing that version, or should we stick to 1.4.2_11?  We're running
CFMX 7.  Our hosting company said we should install 1.4.2_11, but I've
also heard that we should always install the latest, so I'm not sure
quite what to do.
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
>
>
>   
>> Thanks for the info!
>>
>> Rick
>>


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Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

[Christopher Jordan]

Okay, so I just googled 1.4.2_11 and got the site, but I'll be damned if 
I couldn't find it by going to sun.com and looking for it from there. I 
guess I must be blind.

Chris

Ben Mueller wrote:
> Sun's website appears to have 1.4.2_13 as the latest.  Are we safe installing 
> that version, or should we stick to 1.4.2_11?  We're running CFMX 7.  Our 
> hosting company said we should install 1.4.2_11, but I've also heard that we 
> should always install the latest, so I'm not sure quite what to do.
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
>
>
>   
>> Thanks for the info!
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 12:21 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)
>>
>> Rick Faircloth wrote:
>> 
>>> the Java install that comes (for me anyway) from Sun?  Just download
>>> and install the latest JDK from there?
>>>   
>> following adobe's advice on this probably is a good idea, so no, not the
>> latest 
>> version (1.5/1.6) but the latest version that adobe says is ok w/cf,
>> 1.4.2_11 or 
>> "later" as damon the slave driver says on his blog:
>>
>> http://www.dcooper.org/blog/client/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=287B2577-4E22-
>> 1671-5265508349E9FEBD
>> 
>
> 

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Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

[Christopher Jordan]

Hi Ben,

I'm looking on sun's site for the 1.4.2_11, but can't find it. All I can 
find is SE JDK 6. six?! I'm confused. I'm always confused when I go to 
sun's site for the latest JRE. Could you (or anyone really) give me a 
link that points me to the download site, and tell me if I need the 
entire SDK (JDK?), or just the JRE?

Thanks heaps,
Chris

Ben Mueller wrote:
> Sun's website appears to have 1.4.2_13 as the latest.  Are we safe installing 
> that version, or should we stick to 1.4.2_11?  We're running CFMX 7.  Our 
> hosting company said we should install 1.4.2_11, but I've also heard that we 
> should always install the latest, so I'm not sure quite what to do.
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
>
>
>   
>> Thanks for the info!
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 12:21 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)
>>
>> Rick Faircloth wrote:
>> 
>>> the Java install that comes (for me anyway) from Sun?  Just download
>>> and install the latest JDK from there?
>>>   
>> following adobe's advice on this probably is a good idea, so no, not the
>> latest 
>> version (1.5/1.6) but the latest version that adobe says is ok w/cf,
>> 1.4.2_11 or 
>> "later" as damon the slave driver says on his blog:
>>
>> http://www.dcooper.org/blog/client/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=287B2577-4E22-
>> 1671-5265508349E9FEBD
>> 
>
> 

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RE: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

[DURETTE, STEVEN J \(ATTASIAIT\)]

Actually, a person in our company contacted Adobe and they said that
they aren't going to test every _xx release, but that they would still
support us if we used _13.



-Original Message-
From: Ben Mueller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 4:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)


That's pretty much the answer I was looking for.

Thanks, Eric.

Ben

>Adobe wont support you if you install past 1.4.2_11 so if you dont have
>support your fine
>
>Eric
>
>On 3/13/07, Ben Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>



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Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

[Ben Mueller]

That's pretty much the answer I was looking for.

Thanks, Eric.

Ben

>Adobe wont support you if you install past 1.4.2_11 so if you dont have
>support your fine
>
>Eric
>
>On 3/13/07, Ben Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>

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Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

[Eric Haskins]

Adobe wont support you if you install past 1.4.2_11 so if you dont have
support your fine

Eric

On 3/13/07, Ben Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sun's website appears to have 1.4.2_13 as the latest.  Are we safe
> installing that version, or should we stick to 1.4.2_11?  We're running
> CFMX 7.  Our hosting company said we should install 1.4.2_11, but I've
> also heard that we should always install the latest, so I'm not sure quite
> what to do.
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
>
>
> >Thanks for the info!
> >
> >Rick
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 12:21 PM
> >To: CF-Talk
> >Subject: Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)
> >
> >Rick Faircloth wrote:
> >> the Java install that comes (for me anyway) from Sun?  Just download
> >> and install the latest JDK from there?
> >
> >following adobe's advice on this probably is a good idea, so no, not the
> >latest
> >version (1.5/1.6) but the latest version that adobe says is ok w/cf,
> >1.4.2_11 or
> >"later" as damon the slave driver says on his blog:
> >
> >
> http://www.dcooper.org/blog/client/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=287B2577-4E22-
> >1671-5265508349E9FEBD
>
> 

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Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

[Ben Mueller]

Sun's website appears to have 1.4.2_13 as the latest.  Are we safe installing 
that version, or should we stick to 1.4.2_11?  We're running CFMX 7.  Our 
hosting company said we should install 1.4.2_11, but I've also heard that we 
should always install the latest, so I'm not sure quite what to do.

Thanks,
Ben


>Thanks for the info!
>
>Rick
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 12:21 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)
>
>Rick Faircloth wrote:
>> the Java install that comes (for me anyway) from Sun?  Just download
>> and install the latest JDK from there?
>
>following adobe's advice on this probably is a good idea, so no, not the
>latest 
>version (1.5/1.6) but the latest version that adobe says is ok w/cf,
>1.4.2_11 or 
>"later" as damon the slave driver says on his blog:
>
>http://www.dcooper.org/blog/client/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=287B2577-4E22-
>1671-5265508349E9FEBD

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RE: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

[Rick Faircloth]

Thanks for the info!

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 12:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

Rick Faircloth wrote:
> the Java install that comes (for me anyway) from Sun?  Just download
> and install the latest JDK from there?

following adobe's advice on this probably is a good idea, so no, not the
latest 
version (1.5/1.6) but the latest version that adobe says is ok w/cf,
1.4.2_11 or 
"later" as damon the slave driver says on his blog:

http://www.dcooper.org/blog/client/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=287B2577-4E22-
1671-5265508349E9FEBD





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Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

[Paul Hastings]

Rick Faircloth wrote:
> the Java install that comes (for me anyway) from Sun?  Just download
> and install the latest JDK from there?

following adobe's advice on this probably is a good idea, so no, not the latest 
version (1.5/1.6) but the latest version that adobe says is ok w/cf, 1.4.2_11 
or 
"later" as damon the slave driver says on his blog:

http://www.dcooper.org/blog/client/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=287B2577-4E22-1671-5265508349E9FEBD

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RE: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

[Rick Faircloth]

Hi, Paul, I know I don't even know what "DST boundaries" are,
so, perhaps I should just manually go ahead and make sure I update
to the latest JDK, anyway.  And, by JDK, I assume you're talking about
the Java install that comes (for me anyway) from Sun?  Just download
and install the latest JDK from there?

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

Rick Faircloth wrote:
> Am I ok just manually changing my pc's, laptops, and servers on Sunday?

it's probably a good idea to point out that if you use java or cf for date
math 
around the DST boundaries you'll have problems unless you update your JDK.





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Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

[Paul Hastings]

Rick Faircloth wrote:
> Am I ok just manually changing my pc's, laptops, and servers on Sunday?

it's probably a good idea to point out that if you use java or cf for date math 
around the DST boundaries you'll have problems unless you update your JDK.

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Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

[Dan Blickensderfer]

You can modify the time zone DST within Microsoft Windows on any version 
using the time zone editor.  You can download it from Microsoft and adjust 
the settings for your time zone and it will allow your OS adjust 
automatically.  I have tested this on XP, Windows 2000, NT 4 and Win 98 and 
it works correctly.
Here is the link http://support.microsoft.com/gp/cp_dst

Dan


- Original Message - 
From: "Robert Harrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" 
Sent: March 09, 2007 10:00 AM
Subject: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)


>
> FYI:
>
> In case you have not heard the dates on which we change to Daylight 
> Savings
> Time have changed. It used to be we went on Daylight Savings Time the 
> first
> Sunday in April and off the last Sunday in October. That has changed as
> Daylight Savings Time has been extended to help conserve electricity. This
> year we go on Daylight Savings Time this Sunday, March 11th at 2AM and go
> off Daylight Savings Time the first Sunday in November.
>
> This change was legislated by Congress and was unplanned, so it has not 
> been
> programmed into may computer systems and may affect computer, as follows:
>
> 1. If you are using Windows Vista and have automatic updates turned on
> you should get an automatic download that will fix this problem. In this
> case, do nothing.
>
> 2. If you are using Windows Vista and do not have automatic updates
> turned on, you must either manually update your operating system with
> Microsoft Vista updates or you must manually reset your time as instructed
> below. To update your computer manually go to:
> <http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/> 
> <http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/>
> http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
>
> 3. If you are using Windows XP in your office and are connected to a
> network, your system administrator may have loaded a Windows patch, in 
> which
> case you do nothing. Check with your system administrator to see how this
> affects your corporate network and what your should do.
>
> 4. If you are using Windows XP at home (THIS APPLIES TO MOST PEOPLE)
> you will need to manually adjust your computer time. See the instructions
> below.
>
> 5. If you are using a MAC and are on OSX there is a patch you can
> download at http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/24267 to fix this 
> problem.
> If you are on an older MAC you'll need to manually reset your time.
>
> So remember, this Saturday night or Sunday morning (March 11, 2007), set
> your clocks ahead one hour.
>
> If you are on Windows XP and need to manually reset your computer (MOST OF
> US), follow the instructions below.
>
> 1. Open your Control Panel (Start/Control Panel).
>
> 2. Double Click on Date and Time. This open the Date/Time dialog box.
>
> 3. Select the Time Zone tab and make sure the box that says
> "Automatically Adjust Clock for Daylight Savings Time" is NOT CHECKED. If 
> it
> is checked, UNCHECK it by clicking on the box (if you leave it checked it
> will adjust your time again later, on the wrong day and mess up you time
> setting).
>
> 4. Now select the Date & Time tab. In the time box, set your clock
> ahead one hour.
>
> 5. Press the Apply button.
>
> That is all. Hope this was helpful.
>
> Robert Harrison
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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RE: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

[Dave Watts]

> Am I missing something?  What's got a lot of organization in 
> "crisis mode" over this?  Does it just concern large organizations 
> whose functions are time-sensitive?

A lot of computing functionality is time-sensitive. Logins, for example, can
be time-sensitive. In an Active Directory environment using Kerberos, time
discrepancies could keep everyone from being able to log into their
desktops!

> Am I ok just manually changing my pc's, laptops, and servers 
> on Sunday?

It depends on what those computers are running, but probably, in your case,
it would be ok. However, not all services and applications rely solely on
the OS time for timekeeping functionality.

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Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

[dcooper]

For some basic info for CF5, 6, 7+, you can start here:

http://www.dcooper.org

Damon


> On Friday 09 Mar 2007, Robert Harrison wrote:
> 
> > In case you have not heard the dates on which we change to Daylight 
> Savings
> > Time have changed. It used to be we went on Daylight Savings Time 
> the first
> > Sunday in April and off the last Sunday in October. 
> 
> Just worth pointing out, that if you live outside the US, you can 
> ignore all 
> this :-)
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RE: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

[Rick Faircloth]

Well, for the most part I don't think it would matter much to me...I don't
even use the calendar function of Outlook, however I do want emails to show
the proper time of arrival, etc.  Just minor stuff...

Thanks,

Rick

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From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:41 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

On Friday 09 Mar 2007, Rick Faircloth wrote:
> Am I missing something?  What's got a lot of organization in "crisis mode"
> over this?  Does it just concern large organizations whose functions are
> time-sensitive?

Yeah, in the main.
There has been Fuss, because *some* companies are finding out just how many 
JVM's or Windows 98 installs (for instance) they have.

> Am I ok just manually changing my pc's, laptops, and servers on Sunday?

Yup, assuming you fall into the group of people who need to care, as Paul and 
myself said.

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Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

[Tom Chiverton]

On Friday 09 Mar 2007, Rick Faircloth wrote:
> Am I missing something?  What's got a lot of organization in "crisis mode"
> over this?  Does it just concern large organizations whose functions are
> time-sensitive?

Yeah, in the main.
There has been Fuss, because *some* companies are finding out just how many 
JVM's or Windows 98 installs (for instance) they have.

> Am I ok just manually changing my pc's, laptops, and servers on Sunday?

Yup, assuming you fall into the group of people who need to care, as Paul and 
myself said.

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RE: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

[Rick Faircloth]

Am I missing something?  What's got a lot of organization in "crisis mode"
over this?  Does it just concern large organizations whose functions are
time-sensitive?

Am I ok just manually changing my pc's, laptops, and servers on Sunday?

Rick

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From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

On Friday 09 Mar 2007, Robert Harrison wrote:

> In case you have not heard the dates on which we change to Daylight
Savings
> Time have changed. It used to be we went on Daylight Savings Time the
first
> Sunday in April and off the last Sunday in October. 

Just worth pointing out, that if you live outside the US, you can ignore all

this :-)

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Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

[Greg Morphis]

What? There's people outside the US?
heh

On 3/9/07, Paul Vernon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > In case you have not heard the dates on which we change to Daylight
> > > Savings Time have changed. It used to be we went on
> > Daylight Savings
> > > Time the first Sunday in April and off the last Sunday in October.
> >
> > Just worth pointing out, that if you live outside the US, you
> > can ignore all this :-)
> >
>
> Not if you need to do timezone calcs accurately and work with clients in the
> US...
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> 

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RE: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

[Paul Vernon]

> > In case you have not heard the dates on which we change to Daylight 
> > Savings Time have changed. It used to be we went on 
> Daylight Savings 
> > Time the first Sunday in April and off the last Sunday in October.
> 
> Just worth pointing out, that if you live outside the US, you 
> can ignore all this :-)
> 

Not if you need to do timezone calcs accurately and work with clients in the
US... 

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Re: Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

[Tom Chiverton]

On Friday 09 Mar 2007, Robert Harrison wrote:

> In case you have not heard the dates on which we change to Daylight Savings
> Time have changed. It used to be we went on Daylight Savings Time the first
> Sunday in April and off the last Sunday in October. 

Just worth pointing out, that if you live outside the US, you can ignore all 
this :-)

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Daylight Savings Time Change (Slightly OT, but relevant)

[Robert Harrison]

 
FYI:
 
In case you have not heard the dates on which we change to Daylight Savings
Time have changed. It used to be we went on Daylight Savings Time the first
Sunday in April and off the last Sunday in October. That has changed as
Daylight Savings Time has been extended to help conserve electricity. This
year we go on Daylight Savings Time this Sunday, March 11th at 2AM and go
off Daylight Savings Time the first Sunday in November.
 
This change was legislated by Congress and was unplanned, so it has not been
programmed into may computer systems and may affect computer, as follows:

1.  If you are using Windows Vista and have automatic updates turned on
you should get an automatic download that will fix this problem. In this
case, do nothing. 

2.  If you are using Windows Vista and do not have automatic updates
turned on, you must either manually update your operating system with
Microsoft Vista updates or you must manually reset your time as instructed
below. To update your computer manually go to:
  
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ 

3.  If you are using Windows XP in your office and are connected to a
network, your system administrator may have loaded a Windows patch, in which
case you do nothing. Check with your system administrator to see how this
affects your corporate network and what your should do. 

4.  If you are using Windows XP at home (THIS APPLIES TO MOST PEOPLE)
you will need to manually adjust your computer time. See the instructions
below. 

5.  If you are using a MAC and are on OSX there is a patch you can
download at http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/24267 to fix this problem.
If you are on an older MAC you'll need to manually reset your time. 

So remember, this Saturday night or Sunday morning (March 11, 2007), set
your clocks ahead one hour. 
 
If you are on Windows XP and need to manually reset your computer (MOST OF
US), follow the instructions below.

1.  Open your Control Panel (Start/Control Panel). 

2.  Double Click on Date and Time. This open the Date/Time dialog box. 

3.  Select the Time Zone tab and make sure the box that says
"Automatically Adjust Clock for Daylight Savings Time" is NOT CHECKED. If it
is checked, UNCHECK it by clicking on the box (if you leave it checked it
will adjust your time again later, on the wrong day and mess up you time
setting). 

4.  Now select the Date & Time tab. In the time box, set your clock
ahead one hour. 

5.  Press the Apply button.

That is all. Hope this was helpful.
 
Robert Harrison
 
 
 


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