Re: Ajax/flex/spry
Thanks to all of you, this was pretty helpful. On 6/13/07 2:31 PM, "Rey Bango" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Definitely a good reference. It may be over his head though and if he's > just starting out, I think Head Start Ajax will be a better book for him. > > Rey... > > Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: >> Saying that, I found Ajax in Action to be a very good reference item. >> >> >> >> >> >> "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, >> Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, >> Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is >> confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the >> intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note >> that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the >> information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have >> received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call >> our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this >> communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." >> Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Michael E. Carluen >> To: CF-Talk >> Sent: Wed Jun 13 18:58:00 2007 >> Subject: RE: Ajax/flex/spry >> >> To add to Rey's suggestion: yes, get up to speed with your JS basics and >> fundamentals first... you don't have to be an expert but still know the JS >> syntax and constructs before ajax. Then, decide on the JS library that >> serves your need. There have been more than enough comparison discussions on >> this subject in the list archive. So just dig-in. >> >> I will not suggest for you to pickup any AJAX books since the technology is >> just changing so quickly, that some, if not most, seems to be out-dated by >> the time the book goes in print. Just save you Moolah for your caffeine. >> (just my opinion, though some might disagree.) I am sure that whatever >> js/ajax library you choose will have more than enough online docs for you go >> on. >> >> Finally, don't forget one of the best js/ajax teacher of all...: "view >> source". >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 6:24 AM >>> To: CF-Talk >>> Subject: Re: Ajax/flex/spry >>> >>> Charles, >>> >>> If you only know minimal JS, you should really consider getting a good >>> book on it and picking it up before diving into an Ajax library. While >>> most Ajax libs abstract JS to some extent, eventually, you're going to >>> have to dig into it to actually build something. >>> >>> If you just want a straight Ajax library, then I would suggest AjaxCFC >>> or JSMX. If you want more in terms of widgets, then mxAjax has that. >>> >>> I use jQuery which is one of the more popular JS libs, because of its >>> ease of syntax, community and wealth of widgets. I've turned on a number >>> of CF folks to it and they've been very happy with it. >>> >>> Adobe Spry is also a nice alternative and includes some very nice data >>> binding capabilities. >>> >>> Rey... >>> >>> Charles Sheehan-Miles wrote: >>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>> So this is a request for opinions. I'm way behind the curve in that >>> I've >>>> done nothing in terms of Ajax or flex. >>>> >>>> I'm looking for opinions in terms of what would be the quickest and >>> easiest >>>> to get up to speed on. I only know the most minimal javascript. Any >>>> opinions on what is the most effective to get up to speed on quickly? >>>> >>>> Is there anything that's already encapsulated in cfcs? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Charles >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281079 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Ajax/flex/spry
Definitely a good reference. It may be over his head though and if he's just starting out, I think Head Start Ajax will be a better book for him. Rey... Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: > Saying that, I found Ajax in Action to be a very good reference item. > > > > > > "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, > Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, > Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is > confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the > intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note > that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the > information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have > received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call > our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this > communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." > Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com > > -Original Message- > From: Michael E. Carluen > To: CF-Talk > Sent: Wed Jun 13 18:58:00 2007 > Subject: RE: Ajax/flex/spry > > To add to Rey's suggestion: yes, get up to speed with your JS basics and > fundamentals first... you don't have to be an expert but still know the JS > syntax and constructs before ajax. Then, decide on the JS library that > serves your need. There have been more than enough comparison discussions on > this subject in the list archive. So just dig-in. > > I will not suggest for you to pickup any AJAX books since the technology is > just changing so quickly, that some, if not most, seems to be out-dated by > the time the book goes in print. Just save you Moolah for your caffeine. > (just my opinion, though some might disagree.) I am sure that whatever > js/ajax library you choose will have more than enough online docs for you go > on. > > Finally, don't forget one of the best js/ajax teacher of all...: "view > source". > > > > > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 6:24 AM >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: Re: Ajax/flex/spry >> >> Charles, >> >> If you only know minimal JS, you should really consider getting a good >> book on it and picking it up before diving into an Ajax library. While >> most Ajax libs abstract JS to some extent, eventually, you're going to >> have to dig into it to actually build something. >> >> If you just want a straight Ajax library, then I would suggest AjaxCFC >> or JSMX. If you want more in terms of widgets, then mxAjax has that. >> >> I use jQuery which is one of the more popular JS libs, because of its >> ease of syntax, community and wealth of widgets. I've turned on a number >> of CF folks to it and they've been very happy with it. >> >> Adobe Spry is also a nice alternative and includes some very nice data >> binding capabilities. >> >> Rey... >> >> Charles Sheehan-Miles wrote: >>> Hello all, >>> >>> So this is a request for opinions. I'm way behind the curve in that >> I've >>> done nothing in terms of Ajax or flex. >>> >>> I'm looking for opinions in terms of what would be the quickest and >> easiest >>> to get up to speed on. I only know the most minimal javascript. Any >>> opinions on what is the most effective to get up to speed on quickly? >>> >>> Is there anything that's already encapsulated in cfcs? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Charles >>> >> > > > > ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281063 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Ajax/flex/spry
Saying that, I found Ajax in Action to be a very good reference item. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Michael E. Carluen To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed Jun 13 18:58:00 2007 Subject: RE: Ajax/flex/spry To add to Rey's suggestion: yes, get up to speed with your JS basics and fundamentals first... you don't have to be an expert but still know the JS syntax and constructs before ajax. Then, decide on the JS library that serves your need. There have been more than enough comparison discussions on this subject in the list archive. So just dig-in. I will not suggest for you to pickup any AJAX books since the technology is just changing so quickly, that some, if not most, seems to be out-dated by the time the book goes in print. Just save you Moolah for your caffeine. (just my opinion, though some might disagree.) I am sure that whatever js/ajax library you choose will have more than enough online docs for you go on. Finally, don't forget one of the best js/ajax teacher of all...: "view source". > -Original Message- > From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 6:24 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Ajax/flex/spry > > Charles, > > If you only know minimal JS, you should really consider getting a good > book on it and picking it up before diving into an Ajax library. While > most Ajax libs abstract JS to some extent, eventually, you're going to > have to dig into it to actually build something. > > If you just want a straight Ajax library, then I would suggest AjaxCFC > or JSMX. If you want more in terms of widgets, then mxAjax has that. > > I use jQuery which is one of the more popular JS libs, because of its > ease of syntax, community and wealth of widgets. I've turned on a number > of CF folks to it and they've been very happy with it. > > Adobe Spry is also a nice alternative and includes some very nice data > binding capabilities. > > Rey... > > Charles Sheehan-Miles wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > So this is a request for opinions. I'm way behind the curve in that > I've > > done nothing in terms of Ajax or flex. > > > > I'm looking for opinions in terms of what would be the quickest and > easiest > > to get up to speed on. I only know the most minimal javascript. Any > > opinions on what is the most effective to get up to speed on quickly? > > > > Is there anything that's already encapsulated in cfcs? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Charles > > > > ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281059 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Ajax/flex/spry
To add to Rey's suggestion: yes, get up to speed with your JS basics and fundamentals first... you don't have to be an expert but still know the JS syntax and constructs before ajax. Then, decide on the JS library that serves your need. There have been more than enough comparison discussions on this subject in the list archive. So just dig-in. I will not suggest for you to pickup any AJAX books since the technology is just changing so quickly, that some, if not most, seems to be out-dated by the time the book goes in print. Just save you Moolah for your caffeine. (just my opinion, though some might disagree.) I am sure that whatever js/ajax library you choose will have more than enough online docs for you go on. Finally, don't forget one of the best js/ajax teacher of all...: "view source". > -Original Message- > From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 6:24 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Ajax/flex/spry > > Charles, > > If you only know minimal JS, you should really consider getting a good > book on it and picking it up before diving into an Ajax library. While > most Ajax libs abstract JS to some extent, eventually, you're going to > have to dig into it to actually build something. > > If you just want a straight Ajax library, then I would suggest AjaxCFC > or JSMX. If you want more in terms of widgets, then mxAjax has that. > > I use jQuery which is one of the more popular JS libs, because of its > ease of syntax, community and wealth of widgets. I've turned on a number > of CF folks to it and they've been very happy with it. > > Adobe Spry is also a nice alternative and includes some very nice data > binding capabilities. > > Rey... > > Charles Sheehan-Miles wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > So this is a request for opinions. I'm way behind the curve in that > I've > > done nothing in terms of Ajax or flex. > > > > I'm looking for opinions in terms of what would be the quickest and > easiest > > to get up to speed on. I only know the most minimal javascript. Any > > opinions on what is the most effective to get up to speed on quickly? > > > > Is there anything that's already encapsulated in cfcs? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Charles > > > > ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281055 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Ajax/flex/spry
Well, lets add some more confusion. Ext can now work on its on if you use its latest edition. :P Rey... James Holmes wrote: > Just to complicate things, AjaxCFC has a version that works with > jQuery. Also, ExtJS, the library used in CF8 for all the nice new > widgets, comes in versions that work with jQuery and Prototype (the > library behind mxAjax). > > Confused yet? > > On 6/13/07, Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Charles, >> >> If you only know minimal JS, you should really consider getting a good >> book on it and picking it up before diving into an Ajax library. While >> most Ajax libs abstract JS to some extent, eventually, you're going to >> have to dig into it to actually build something. >> >> If you just want a straight Ajax library, then I would suggest AjaxCFC >> or JSMX. If you want more in terms of widgets, then mxAjax has that. >> >> I use jQuery which is one of the more popular JS libs, because of its >> ease of syntax, community and wealth of widgets. I've turned on a number >> of CF folks to it and they've been very happy with it. >> >> Adobe Spry is also a nice alternative and includes some very nice data >> binding capabilities. >> >> Rey... >> >> Charles Sheehan-Miles wrote: >>> Hello all, >>> >>> So this is a request for opinions. I'm way behind the curve in that I've >>> done nothing in terms of Ajax or flex. >>> >>> I'm looking for opinions in terms of what would be the quickest and easiest >>> to get up to speed on. I only know the most minimal javascript. Any >>> opinions on what is the most effective to get up to speed on quickly? >>> >>> Is there anything that's already encapsulated in cfcs? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Charles >>> >> > > ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280990 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Ajax/flex/spry
Just to complicate things, AjaxCFC has a version that works with jQuery. Also, ExtJS, the library used in CF8 for all the nice new widgets, comes in versions that work with jQuery and Prototype (the library behind mxAjax). Confused yet? On 6/13/07, Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Charles, > > If you only know minimal JS, you should really consider getting a good > book on it and picking it up before diving into an Ajax library. While > most Ajax libs abstract JS to some extent, eventually, you're going to > have to dig into it to actually build something. > > If you just want a straight Ajax library, then I would suggest AjaxCFC > or JSMX. If you want more in terms of widgets, then mxAjax has that. > > I use jQuery which is one of the more popular JS libs, because of its > ease of syntax, community and wealth of widgets. I've turned on a number > of CF folks to it and they've been very happy with it. > > Adobe Spry is also a nice alternative and includes some very nice data > binding capabilities. > > Rey... > > Charles Sheehan-Miles wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > So this is a request for opinions. I'm way behind the curve in that I've > > done nothing in terms of Ajax or flex. > > > > I'm looking for opinions in terms of what would be the quickest and easiest > > to get up to speed on. I only know the most minimal javascript. Any > > opinions on what is the most effective to get up to speed on quickly? > > > > Is there anything that's already encapsulated in cfcs? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Charles > > > > ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280983 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Ajax/flex/spry
Charles, If you only know minimal JS, you should really consider getting a good book on it and picking it up before diving into an Ajax library. While most Ajax libs abstract JS to some extent, eventually, you're going to have to dig into it to actually build something. If you just want a straight Ajax library, then I would suggest AjaxCFC or JSMX. If you want more in terms of widgets, then mxAjax has that. I use jQuery which is one of the more popular JS libs, because of its ease of syntax, community and wealth of widgets. I've turned on a number of CF folks to it and they've been very happy with it. Adobe Spry is also a nice alternative and includes some very nice data binding capabilities. Rey... Charles Sheehan-Miles wrote: > Hello all, > > So this is a request for opinions. I'm way behind the curve in that I've > done nothing in terms of Ajax or flex. > > I'm looking for opinions in terms of what would be the quickest and easiest > to get up to speed on. I only know the most minimal javascript. Any > opinions on what is the most effective to get up to speed on quickly? > > Is there anything that's already encapsulated in cfcs? > > Thanks, > > Charles > ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280978 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Ajax/flex/spry
Hello all, So this is a request for opinions. I'm way behind the curve in that I've done nothing in terms of Ajax or flex. I'm looking for opinions in terms of what would be the quickest and easiest to get up to speed on. I only know the most minimal javascript. Any opinions on what is the most effective to get up to speed on quickly? Is there anything that's already encapsulated in cfcs? Thanks, Charles -- Charles Sheehan-Miles http://www.sheehanmiles.com Author of Republic: A Novel of America's Future http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0979411424?tag=sheehanmiles-20 ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280970 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
