Amazon using CF
Hey Guys: I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of whitespace, resembling CF output. Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF or what language they do use. Greg ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Amazon using CF
I'm pretty sure Amazon has its own scripting language. I know Excite does. In fact there are a few high-end, high-volume sites that do that. -Original Message- From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 9:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Amazon using CF Hey Guys: I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of whitespace, resembling CF output. Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF or what language they do use. Greg ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Amazon using CF
Yes, they do, among other languages. I have seen ".cfm" files on their site. John -Original Message- From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 12:32 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Amazon using CF Hey Guys: I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of whitespace, resembling CF output. Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF or what language they do use. Greg ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Amazon using CF
BEA System's WebLogic It's a java app server. Somewhere in the $20 grand per processor range. Of course, it does allow for the personalization you see on Amazon's site. - Original Message - From: "Greg Wolfinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 9:32 AM Subject: Amazon using CF > Hey Guys: > > I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of whitespace, resembling CF output. Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF or what language they do use. > > > Greg > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Amazon using CF
>From what I understood before they got secretive about their technology, a lot of it >is built in Perl. At 12:32 PM 12/14/00 -0500, Greg Wolfinger wrote: >Hey Guys: > >I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of whitespace, >resembling CF output. Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF or what language they do >use. > > >Greg > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Amazon using CF
Well I would then like to get my hands on their parser :) Raise some hell, haha. Greg - Original Message - From: "Dylan Bromby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 1:35 PM Subject: RE: Amazon using CF > I'm pretty sure Amazon has its own scripting language. I know Excite does. > In fact there are a few high-end, high-volume sites that do that. > > -Original Message- > From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 9:32 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Amazon using CF > > > Hey Guys: > > I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of > whitespace, resembling CF output. Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF or > what language they do use. > > > Greg > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Amazon using CF
I have heard that they use their own language? and Oracle db's Shane Witbeck -- Original Message -- From: "Greg Wolfinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:32:21 -0500 >Hey Guys: > >I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of whitespace, >resembling CF output. Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF or what language they do >use. > > >Greg > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Amazon using CF
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'll give $5 to the person who can a .cfm file on Amazon.com. Seriously... Aaron Johnson, MCSE, MCP+I Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer MINDSEYE, Inc. 617.350.0339 617.350.8884 66172567 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ "Never forget that only dead fish swim with the stream." -- Malcolm Muggeridge ___ - -Original Message- From: John Grubb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 2:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Amazon using CF Yes, they do, among other languages. I have seen ".cfm" files on their site. John - -Original Message- From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 12:32 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Amazon using CF Hey Guys: I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of whitespace, resembling CF output. Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF or what language they do use. Greg ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Amazon using CF
> I'll give $5 to the person who can a .cfm file on Amazon.com. They mask the URLs now. > > > Do you think that the largest online e-tailor wants people to know what language and app servers they use? That would aid hackers quite nicely, huh? -Greg - Original Message - From: "Aaron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 3:53 PM Subject: RE: Amazon using CF > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I'll give $5 to the person who can a .cfm file on Amazon.com. > > Seriously... > > > > > > Aaron Johnson, MCSE, MCP+I > Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer > MINDSEYE, Inc. > 617.350.0339 > 617.350.8884 > 66172567 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > "Never forget that only dead fish swim with > the stream." -- Malcolm Muggeridge > ___ > > > - -Original Message- > From: John Grubb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 2:11 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Amazon using CF > > > Yes, they do, among other languages. I have seen ".cfm" files on > their site. > > John > > - -Original Message- > From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 12:32 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Amazon using CF > > > Hey Guys: > > I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of > whitespace, resembling CF output. Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF > or > what language they do use. > > > Greg > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Amazon using CF
No kidding. I think Allaire could be a little embarassed about the previous CF poster child, ToysRUs. It took Amazon about 15 minutes to convert the site from Cold Fusion to their own system. Jim - Original Message - From: "Aaron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 1:53 PM Subject: RE: Amazon using CF > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I'll give $5 to the person who can a .cfm file on Amazon.com. > > Seriously... > > > > > > Aaron Johnson, MCSE, MCP+I > Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer > MINDSEYE, Inc. > 617.350.0339 > 617.350.8884 > 66172567 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > "Never forget that only dead fish swim with > the stream." -- Malcolm Muggeridge > ___ > > > - -Original Message- > From: John Grubb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 2:11 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Amazon using CF > > > Yes, they do, among other languages. I have seen ".cfm" files on > their site. > > John > > - -Original Message- > From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 12:32 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Amazon using CF > > > Hey Guys: > > I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of > whitespace, resembling CF output. Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF > or > what language they do use. > > > Greg > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Amazon using CF
Outside of losing a client, why is this bad? It seems like your saying, "Geeze, it was hard to convert from CF to another language, which means that CF was easy to read and understand." :> === Raymond Camden, Principal Spectra Compliance Engineer for Allaire Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ UIN : 3679482 "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda > -Original Message- > From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 6:17 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Amazon using CF > > > No kidding. I think Allaire could be a little embarassed about > the previous > CF poster child, ToysRUs. It took Amazon about 15 minutes to convert the > site from Cold Fusion to their own system. > > Jim > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Amazon using CF
> Do you think that the largest online e-tailor wants people to know what > language and app servers they use? That would aid hackers quite nicely, > huh? Yep. One bug recently found in IIS+CF give source code of any *.cfm. AFAIK many websites on CF can be broken very easily then. Regards, Gennadi ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Amazon using CF
Of course, what I meant to say is : " Geeze, it was EASY to convert from CF to another language, which means that CF was easy to read and understand." === Raymond Camden, Principal Spectra Compliance Engineer for Allaire Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ UIN : 3679482 "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda > -Original Message- > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 7:57 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Amazon using CF > > > Outside of losing a client, why is this bad? It seems like your saying, > "Geeze, it was hard to convert from CF to another language, which > means that > CF was easy to read and understand." :> > > === > Raymond Camden, Principal Spectra Compliance Engineer for Allaire > > Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ UIN : 3679482 > > "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 6:17 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: Amazon using CF > > > > > > No kidding. I think Allaire could be a little embarassed about > > the previous > > CF poster child, ToysRUs. It took Amazon about 15 minutes to > convert the > > site from Cold Fusion to their own system. > > > > Jim > > > > > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Amazon using CF
> Yep. One bug recently found in IIS+CF give source code of any > *.cfm. AFAIK many websites on CF can be broken very easily then. That's not a CF bug, it's an IIS bug. The script reading exploits will work with any scripting language used on IIS. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Amazon using CF
Although, 'easy to read' CFML just means a good coder coded it. I wouldn't take that as a reflection on Allaire or ColdFusion. I've worked with CFM templates that were so large and poorly written it took weeks to make heads or tails out of it. Raymond Camden wrote: > > Outside of losing a client, why is this bad? It seems like your saying, > "Geeze, it was hard to convert from CF to another language, which means that > CF was easy to read and understand." :> > > === > Raymond Camden, Principal Spectra Compliance Engineer for Allaire > > Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ UIN : 3679482 > > "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 6:17 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: Amazon using CF > > > > > > No kidding. I think Allaire could be a little embarassed about > > the previous > > CF poster child, ToysRUs. It took Amazon about 15 minutes to convert the > > site from Cold Fusion to their own system. > > > > Jim > > > > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Amazon using CF
But if I'm thinking of the same bug, that was an IIS exploit that would have shown source code for lots of file types: CF, ASP, etc. - Original Message - From: Gena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 5:06 PM Subject: Re: Amazon using CF > > Do you think that the largest online e-tailor wants people to know what > > language and app servers they use? That would aid hackers quite nicely, > > huh? > > Yep. One bug recently found in IIS+CF give source code of any *.cfm. AFAIK > many websites on CF can be broken very easily then. > > Regards, > Gennadi > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Amazon using CF
That's because they didn't convert anything. They loaded Toys R Us's inventory into their existing system. Nothing new had to be written. BTW, they lost alot of "toy specific" functionality along the way. At 04:16 PM 12/14/00 -0700, Jim McAtee wrote: >No kidding. I think Allaire could be a little embarassed about the previous >CF poster child, ToysRUs. It took Amazon about 15 minutes to convert the >site from Cold Fusion to their own system. > >Jim > > >- Original Message - >From: "Aaron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 1:53 PM >Subject: RE: Amazon using CF > > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> I'll give $5 to the person who can a .cfm file on Amazon.com. >> >> Seriously... >> >> >> >> >> >> Aaron Johnson, MCSE, MCP+I >> Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer >> MINDSEYE, Inc. >> 617.350.0339 >> 617.350.8884 >> 66172567 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> ___ >> "Never forget that only dead fish swim with >> the stream." -- Malcolm Muggeridge >> ___ >> >> >> - -Original Message- >> From: John Grubb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 2:11 PM >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: RE: Amazon using CF >> >> >> Yes, they do, among other languages. I have seen ".cfm" files on >> their site. >> >> John >> >> - -Original Message- >> From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 12:32 PM >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: Amazon using CF >> >> >> Hey Guys: >> >> I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of >> whitespace, resembling CF output. Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF >> or >> what language they do use. >> >> >> Greg >> > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Amazon using CF
Silly question: Why would you have to *see* '.cfm' to prove they are using cf? laszlo Aaron Johnson wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I'll give $5 to the person who can a .cfm file on Amazon.com. > > Seriously... > > > > > > Aaron Johnson, MCSE, MCP+I > Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer > MINDSEYE, Inc. > 617.350.0339 > 617.350.8884 > 66172567 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > "Never forget that only dead fish swim with > the stream." -- Malcolm Muggeridge > ___ > > - -Original Message- > From: John Grubb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 2:11 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Amazon using CF > > Yes, they do, among other languages. I have seen ".cfm" files on > their site. > > John > > - -Original Message- > From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 12:32 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Amazon using CF > > Hey Guys: > > I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of > whitespace, resembling CF output. Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF > or > what language they do use. > > Greg > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Amazon using CF
Its just a mapping, once removed the vulnerability is gone. >From: Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Amazon using CF >Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:12:21 -0500 > > > Yep. One bug recently found in IIS+CF give source code of any > > *.cfm. AFAIK many websites on CF can be broken very easily then. > >That's not a CF bug, it's an IIS bug. The script reading exploits will work >with any scripting language used on IIS. > >Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software >http://www.figleaf.com/ >voice: (202) 797-5496 >fax: (202) 797-5444 > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Amazon using CF
Funny thing... Allaire's sales guy that just came to my company to do a demo still pushes Toys R Us as a customer. At 04:16 PM 12/14/00 -0700, Jim McAtee you wrote: >No kidding. I think Allaire could be a little embarassed about the previous >CF poster child, ToysRUs. It took Amazon about 15 minutes to convert the >site from Cold Fusion to their own system. > >Jim > > >- Original Message - >From: "Aaron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 1:53 PM >Subject: RE: Amazon using CF > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > I'll give $5 to the person who can a .cfm file on Amazon.com. > > > > Seriously... > > > > > > > > > > > > Aaron Johnson, MCSE, MCP+I > > Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer > > MINDSEYE, Inc. > > 617.350.0339 > > 617.350.8884 > > 66172567 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ___ > > "Never forget that only dead fish swim with > > the stream." -- Malcolm Muggeridge > > ___ > > > > > > - -Original Message- > > From: John Grubb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 2:11 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Amazon using CF > > > > > > Yes, they do, among other languages. I have seen ".cfm" files on > > their site. > > > > John > > > > - -Original Message- > > From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 12:32 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Amazon using CF > > > > > > Hey Guys: > > > > I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of > > whitespace, resembling CF output. Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF > > or > > what language they do use. > > > > > > Greg > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Amazon using CF
You wrote: >> It took Amazon about 15 minutes to convert the > >site from Cold Fusion to their own system. Where did you get this data? The stuff I read is that it took thousands of man hours and almost a year to complete the integration of the TRU store at Amazon. - Steve -Original Message- At 04:16 PM 12/14/00 -0700, Jim McAtee you wrote: >No kidding. I think Allaire could be a little embarassed about the previous >CF poster child, ToysRUs. It took Amazon about 15 minutes to convert the >site from Cold Fusion to their own system. > >Jim > > >- Original Message - >From: "Aaron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 1:53 PM >Subject: RE: Amazon using CF > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > I'll give $5 to the person who can a .cfm file on Amazon.com. > > > > Seriously... > > > > > > > > > > > > Aaron Johnson, MCSE, MCP+I > > Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer > > MINDSEYE, Inc. > > 617.350.0339 > > 617.350.8884 > > 66172567 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ___ > > "Never forget that only dead fish swim with > > the stream." -- Malcolm Muggeridge > > ___ > > > > > > - -Original Message- > > From: John Grubb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 2:11 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Amazon using CF > > > > > > Yes, they do, among other languages. I have seen ".cfm" files on > > their site. > > > > John > > > > - -Original Message- > > From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 12:32 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Amazon using CF > > > > > > Hey Guys: > > > > I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of > > whitespace, resembling CF output. Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF > > or > > what language they do use. > > > > > > Greg > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Amazon using CF
If I remember correctly, the announcement about the partnership with Amazon was made in August of this year. All in all, pretty ballsy, unless it had been in the works for quite some time. Jim - Original Message - From: "Steve Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 9:23 PM Subject: RE: Amazon using CF > You wrote: > >> It took Amazon about 15 minutes to convert the > > >site from Cold Fusion to their own system. > > Where did you get this data? The stuff I read is that it took thousands of > man hours and almost a year to complete the integration of the TRU store at > Amazon. > > - Steve > > > -Original Message- > At 04:16 PM 12/14/00 -0700, Jim McAtee you wrote: > > >No kidding. I think Allaire could be a little embarassed about the > previous > >CF poster child, ToysRUs. It took Amazon about 15 minutes to convert the > >site from Cold Fusion to their own system. > > > >Jim > > > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Aaron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 1:53 PM > >Subject: RE: Amazon using CF > > > > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > I'll give $5 to the person who can a .cfm file on Amazon.com. > > > > > > Seriously... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aaron Johnson, MCSE, MCP+I > > > Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer > > > MINDSEYE, Inc. > > > 617.350.0339 > > > 617.350.8884 > > > 66172567 > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > ___ > > > "Never forget that only dead fish swim with > > > the stream." -- Malcolm Muggeridge > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > - -Original Message- > > > From: John Grubb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 2:11 PM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: RE: Amazon using CF > > > > > > > > > Yes, they do, among other languages. I have seen ".cfm" files on > > > their site. > > > > > > John > > > > > > - -Original Message- > > > From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 12:32 PM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Amazon using CF > > > > > > > > > Hey Guys: > > > > > > I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of > > > whitespace, resembling CF output. Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF > > > or > > > what language they do use. > > > > > > > > > Greg ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Amazon using CF
I first heard about it last spring and apparently it had been in the works for some time. - Steve -Original Message- From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 11:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Amazon using CF If I remember correctly, the announcement about the partnership with Amazon was made in August of this year. All in all, pretty ballsy, unless it had been in the works for quite some time. Jim - Original Message - From: "Steve Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 9:23 PM Subject: RE: Amazon using CF > You wrote: > >> It took Amazon about 15 minutes to convert the > > >site from Cold Fusion to their own system. > > Where did you get this data? The stuff I read is that it took thousands of > man hours and almost a year to complete the integration of the TRU store at > Amazon. > > - Steve > > > -Original Message- > At 04:16 PM 12/14/00 -0700, Jim McAtee you wrote: > > >No kidding. I think Allaire could be a little embarassed about the > previous > >CF poster child, ToysRUs. It took Amazon about 15 minutes to convert the > >site from Cold Fusion to their own system. > > > >Jim > > > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Aaron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 1:53 PM > >Subject: RE: Amazon using CF > > > > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > I'll give $5 to the person who can a .cfm file on Amazon.com. > > > > > > Seriously... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aaron Johnson, MCSE, MCP+I > > > Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer > > > MINDSEYE, Inc. > > > 617.350.0339 > > > 617.350.8884 > > > 66172567 > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > ___ > > > "Never forget that only dead fish swim with > > > the stream." -- Malcolm Muggeridge > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > - -Original Message- > > > From: John Grubb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 2:11 PM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: RE: Amazon using CF > > > > > > > > > Yes, they do, among other languages. I have seen ".cfm" files on > > > their site. > > > > > > John > > > > > > - -Original Message- > > > From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 12:32 PM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Amazon using CF > > > > > > > > > Hey Guys: > > > > > > I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of > > > whitespace, resembling CF output. Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF > > > or > > > what language they do use. > > > > > > > > > Greg ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Amazon using CF
> > Yep. One bug recently found in IIS+CF give source code of any > > *.cfm. AFAIK many websites on CF can be broken very easily then. > > That's not a CF bug, it's an IIS bug. The script reading exploits will work > with any scripting language used on IIS. Actually I tried another scripting languages on IIS - and cannot get the same result as at CF. But I agree that it is not CF problem. It is problem of CF+IIS Regards ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Amazon using CF
Amazon used to use CF - Allaire was proud to have them as a client about two years ago - since then they are tried asp,cgi and other such nonsense! James "You're a big man, but you're out of shape. With me it's a full time job. Now behave yourself." "Get Carter" 1964 -Original Message- From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 December 2000 17:32 To: CF-Talk Subject: Amazon using CF Hey Guys: I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of whitespace, resembling CF output. Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF or what language they do use. Greg ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Amazon using CF
I think it is quite possible that there might be some left overs from the Toy'Rus stuff but other than that I don't think your gonna find any. - Original Message - From: "Aaron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 2:53 PM Subject: RE: Amazon using CF > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I'll give $5 to the person who can a .cfm file on Amazon.com. > > Seriously... > > > > > > Aaron Johnson, MCSE, MCP+I > Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer > MINDSEYE, Inc. > 617.350.0339 > 617.350.8884 > 66172567 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > "Never forget that only dead fish swim with > the stream." -- Malcolm Muggeridge > ___ > > > - -Original Message----- > From: John Grubb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 2:11 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Amazon using CF > > > Yes, they do, among other languages. I have seen ".cfm" files on > their site. > > John > > - -Original Message- > From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 12:32 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Amazon using CF > > > Hey Guys: > > I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of > whitespace, resembling CF output. Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF > or > what language they do use. > > > Greg > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Amazon using CF
> Yep. One bug recently found in IIS+CF give source code of any *.cfm. AFAIK > many websites on CF can be broken very easily then. I am pretty sure that the issue that you are referring to release code for ASP, JSP, and any other server side scripting as well. That issue had nothing to do with Cold Fusion whatsoever. As long as you code efficiently and code with security issues in mind you CF apps will be secure. The big problem is that you need to keep up to date with the thousands of patches put out by Microsoft for IIS. -Greg - Original Message - From: "Gena" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 8:06 PM Subject: Re: Amazon using CF > > Do you think that the largest online e-tailor wants people to know what > > language and app servers they use? That would aid hackers quite nicely, > > huh? > > Yep. One bug recently found in IIS+CF give source code of any *.cfm. AFAIK > many websites on CF can be broken very easily then. > > Regards, > Gennadi > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
