Re: Any secure data transfer methods avaiable for very large files?
It doesn't have to be expensive: http://openvpn.net/ -- WSS4CF - WS-Security framework for CF http://wss4cf.riaforge.org On 24 April 2011 10:25, Jenny Gavin-Wear wrote: > It is unlikely to be a cheap solution, but it will have the potential to be > a robust and secure solution. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343952 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Any secure data transfer methods avaiable for very large files?
Hi Kamru, Sorry for my late reply. This link will give you a good idea of what a VPN could do for you: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb742566.aspx It is unlikely to be a cheap solution, but it will have the potential to be a robust and secure solution. Something you could consider if your requirement for shifting data is not just a short term need. My own experience is particularly with Checkpoint Firewall 1 which has an option VPN module. This is pretty expensive stuff, but I am sure there are lots of cheaper solutions out there. If you think this is a direction you would like to go in, I'll gladly help you sort out a viable solution. (Not provide, but help you find, to be clear.) Take care, Jenny Gavin-Wear Fast Track Online Tel: 01262 602013 http://www.fasttrackonline.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Kamru Miah [mailto:k.m...@csl.gov.uk] Sent: 19 April 2011 12:20 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Any secure data transfer methods avaiable for very large files? Hi Jenny, Thanks for you reply. Apologies for not answering sooner, as I could not connect to houseoffusion.com last Friday (15/4/2011) for some technical reason. No, I have not thought about VPN. Would that allow an upload of up to 50 GB data from UK and downloaded from another European country securely and reliably? What VPN product do I need to consider? Any pointers will be appreciated. Many Thanks, Kamru -- >Have you thought of using a VPN? > >Jenny > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.894 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3592 - Release Date: 04/23/11 07:36:00 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343943 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Any secure data transfer methods avaiable for very large files?
Basically if you want people to upload large quantities of data, HTTP is NOT your friend. You can use cyberduck to upload to S3 Buckets, I do it all the time. The thing is that people will need their own Keys and SecretID's as I am sure you don't want to share yours? (I think you can make it so anyone can upload to a bucket I am pretty sure. you can then read from the S3 bucket from Coldfusion/Railo MD On 21 Apr 2011, at 12:32, Kamru Miah wrote: > > Hi Cameron, > > Thanks for your comment and everyone else for their suggestions. > > I shall evaluate all these ideas before deciding up on an appropriate > solution for my needs. > > However, please answer one more question, if at all possible: > > How about using Amazon S3 (https://s3.amazonaws.com/) for secure storage and > use another SFTP/SSH based upload/download user tool (e.g. > http://trac.cyberduck.ch/wiki/help/en/howto/s3 or similar) - will that idea > work? > > Regards, > > Kamru > >> Investigate the SFTP/SSH/VPN/etc solutions instead. > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343894 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Any secure data transfer methods avaiable for very large files?
Hi Cameron, Thanks for your comment and everyone else for their suggestions. I shall evaluate all these ideas before deciding up on an appropriate solution for my needs. However, please answer one more question, if at all possible: How about using Amazon S3 (https://s3.amazonaws.com/) for secure storage and use another SFTP/SSH based upload/download user tool (e.g. http://trac.cyberduck.ch/wiki/help/en/howto/s3 or similar) - will that idea work? Regards, Kamru > Investigate the SFTP/SSH/VPN/etc solutions instead. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343893 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Any secure data transfer methods avaiable for very large files?
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Kamru Miah wrote: > Is there any products or Coldfusion code example to handle up to 50 GB files > available anywhere? ColdFusion (or any other web scripting language) is not the proper solution for this problem. It's not even worth trying. It's like asking how many men it takes to throw a two ton boulder over a wall when a perfectly good catapult is sitting there beside you. The men might be able to eventually do it, but just use the catapult. Investigate the SFTP/SSH/VPN/etc solutions instead. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: cameronc@gmail. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343854 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Any secure data transfer methods avaiable for very large files?
Kamru, SFTP is simply ftp over an SSH connection. So what you need is to have SSH running on your ftp server. If you are using Windows, I like ServU-FTP server as it has an SSH server built into it. It is a commercial product though and is Windows only. If you want to go free, OpenSSH is a free SSH Server product if you need one (http://www.openssh.com/) and runs on multiple platforms. Russ mentioned Filezilla, which is a good free ftp server option. The last thing that your users will need is an ftp client that supports SSH connections. Most commercial ftp clients do and there are numerous free ones as well. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Kamru Miah wrote: > > Hi Dean, > > The SFTP and SSH methods you suggested sounds very promising. > > Is there any products or Coldfusion code example to handle up to 50 GB files > available anywhere? > > Thanks, > > Kamru > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343853 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Any secure data transfer methods avaiable for very large files?
It would a bad idea to try and deliver such big files over CF. A file of that size would take a very long time to download, and the likelihood of the http connection being lost is very high, which means users will need to keep trying to download from scratch, as has been stated, http is not really intended for this. As I suggested previously you could use FTP which would be a much better method as downloads can be resumed. You can provide your users with an FTP link from a webpage, if you need to generate a unique ftp login for each user then this can be done via CF as well using an FTP server with an API, such as gene6 FTP or Filezilla. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Kamru Miah wrote: > > Hi Dean, > > The SFTP and SSH methods you suggested sounds very promising. > > Is there any products or Coldfusion code example to handle up to 50 GB > files available anywhere? > > Thanks, > > Kamru > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343852 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Any secure data transfer methods avaiable for very large files?
Hi Dean, The SFTP and SSH methods you suggested sounds very promising. Is there any products or Coldfusion code example to handle up to 50 GB files available anywhere? Thanks, Kamru ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343851 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Any secure data transfer methods avaiable for very large files?
Hi Russ, Thanks for your suggestions. The secure file transfer requirement is a regular occurrence for multiple users. I had a look at the SugarSync file upload service and it is only free for up to 5GB for a single user. I have asked the vendor to supply more information for my requirement. The other solutions are limited to much small file sizes then SugarSync. Regards, Kamru ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343850 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Any secure data transfer methods avaiable for very large files?
Could you not just upload the files using sftp and require an ssh connection to download them? That is really what ftp was designed for. HTTP was never really designed to transmit that large of a file anyway. This would accomplish both of your requirements, in that you would be uploading them securely in the UK and then they would be downloaded securely from any place else. It will also not bring your web server to it's knees like serving up multiple 50GB requests would. Dean On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Kamru Miah wrote: > > Hi Jenny, > > Thanks for you reply. Apologies for not answering sooner, as I could not > connect to houseoffusion.com last Friday (15/4/2011) for some technical > reason. > > No, I have not thought about VPN. Would that allow an upload of up to 50 GB > data from UK and downloaded from another European country securely and > reliably? > > What VPN product do I need to consider? Any pointers will be appreciated. > > Many Thanks, > > Kamru > -- >>Have you thought of using a VPN? >> >>Jenny >> > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343847 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Any secure data transfer methods avaiable for very large files?
is this sharing of files a regular occurrence or a one time thing ? either way you don't need to reinvent this wheel If you regularly do this then a much better solution would be something like SugarSync, we have been using this for ages and it works great, and best of all it is FREE, they do not even stop you going your quota, they just don't backup any data that over http://bit.ly/ffSiND Here is a bunch of other similar solutions http://techcrunch.com/2009/08/08/16-apps-that-make-sharing-large-files-a-snap/ You could also just stick the file on your server and provide FTP access to download it. You may want to consider breaking the file down into smaller parts though, as 50GB is a hefty download. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Kamru Miah wrote: > > Hi Jenny, > > Thanks for you reply. Apologies for not answering sooner, as I could not > connect to houseoffusion.com last Friday (15/4/2011) for some technical > reason. > > No, I have not thought about VPN. Would that allow an upload of up to 50 GB > data from UK and downloaded from another European country securely and > reliably? > > What VPN product do I need to consider? Any pointers will be appreciated. > > Many Thanks, > > Kamru > -- > >Have you thought of using a VPN? > > > >Jenny > > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343845 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Any secure data transfer methods avaiable for very large files?
Hi Jenny, Thanks for you reply. Apologies for not answering sooner, as I could not connect to houseoffusion.com last Friday (15/4/2011) for some technical reason. No, I have not thought about VPN. Would that allow an upload of up to 50 GB data from UK and downloaded from another European country securely and reliably? What VPN product do I need to consider? Any pointers will be appreciated. Many Thanks, Kamru -- >Have you thought of using a VPN? > >Jenny > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343843 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Any secure data transfer methods avaiable for very large files?
Have you thought of using a VPN? Jenny -Original Message- From: Kamru Miah [mailto:k.m...@csl.gov.uk] Sent: 14 April 2011 16:41 To: cf-talk Subject: Any secure data transfer methods avaiable for very large files? Hello, My company requires a mean of up to 50 GB of secure data transfer facility for multiple concurrent users. Does anyone know of any methods/tools/products which will provide the above secure data transfer facility with a Coldfusion front-end please? Thanks in anticipation. Kamru ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343766 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Any secure data transfer methods avaiable for very large files?
Hello, My company requires a mean of up to 50 GB of secure data transfer facility for multiple concurrent users. Does anyone know of any methods/tools/products which will provide the above secure data transfer facility with a Coldfusion front-end please? Thanks in anticipation. Kamru ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343716 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
