Re: Anyone know of any good CF tests?
Please could you send me a copy.
Thanks!
Britta
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 4:35 PM
Subject: RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests?
I would be interested in your test
-Original Message-
From: Sandra Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 4:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests?
I came up with a test that a user has to do on-line. I provide the specs
and
the database fields,
user has one hour to complete the test and have it working in a folder I
provide.
I can do it in one hour, most of the interviewees couldn't and you should
have seen some of the
stuff they came up with. I even provided a display file which most of
them
simply copied. Pretty funny.
If you want it, let me know and I will email you a zip file.
I think that giving them specs and seeing how they solve the problem does
a
lot more than giving them
something like brainbench. (Of course I did score high on that, but
didn't
think it had a lot of
real world applicability.)
-Original Message-
From: David Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 11:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests?
A good CF test... Let's see... Oh I know! Have them install Spectra. If
they can get it running, hire them grin
Sorry, just had to slip that one in there :)
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 12:44 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Anyone know of any good CF tests?
So don't ask them a code oriented question. Ask them to write the code
for
you. Ask them how they would handle a problem IE a shopping cart. What
code they would use etc. See how well they plan the cart.
- Original Message -
From: "John Doe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 1:32 PM
Subject: RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests?
Yes, it would be great, I just wish I had the time to put something
together, which is why I was hoping someone on the list had something
they
might be willing to share. The more I think about it, the more I think I
DO
want the test taker to be able to use books to look things up. My bigger
concern has to do with the person's ability to think in a complex way.
THAT
is what I really want to test for.
Aaron
Original Message Follows
From: Tony Schreiber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests?
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:01:43 -0500 (EST)
There is of course, the Allaire Certification...
Brainbuzz.com has a CF SKillDrill...
I have a test my brother wrote for hiring developers...
Seems like it would be easy enough to make... given the quantity of
materials available from online tests, college courses, and Allaire
Certification prep books.
The main problem you main have is determining what is truly an
expert...
I would classify myself as very knowledgeable, but wouldn't think of
doing a
job without some type of reference book available. As I sit here at
type
this, I have (literally) 9 ColdFusion Books and various other
references
sitting on my desk.
Heath
-Original Message-
From: John Doe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 12:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Anyone know of any good CF tests?
I am looking to put together a pre-employment test to check the
knowledge
level of a job candidate who claims to be an expert cf developer.
Does
anyone know of any available tests (not online, what I'm looking for
is
some
type of written test) for this purpose? I would like to be able to
bring
the
candidate in and have them take the test under controlled
circumstances -
i.e. I don't want them to be able to do it from home, consult
w/friends,
look things up...I want to make sure I am getting what is being sold,
if
you
see what I mean.
Thanks,
Aaron
~~
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Re: Anyone know of any good CF tests?
Why not put one together yourself? With Forta's new book on certification right around the corner and all the other books available you should be able to come up with some really good (feel the candidate out) questions, and what if scenario's. Just a thought since it is also something that could be updated at your convenience, also what about the game that Michael Smith wrote for coldfusion, !!! Later "John Doe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I am looking to put together a pre-employment test to check the knowledge level of a job candidate who claims to be an expert cf developer. Does anyone know of any available tests (not online, what I'm looking for is some type of written test) for this purpose? I would like to be able to bring the candidate in and have them take the test under controlled circumstances - i.e. I don't want them to be able to do it from home, consult w/friends, look things up...I want to make sure I am getting what is being sold, if you see what I mean. Thanks, Aaron ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests?
On a previous contract I used this one to slaughter a couple of candidates :-) http://halhelms.com/cfquiz.cfm The best thing to do is not to hand them the test and walk away, but sit through the questions with the person. You get a feel for how quickly they answer questions and also a feel for them in general. It covers the basics, and also goes into a bit of SQL. I actually had somebody tell me after the test that he could see he wasn't going to get the job after taking the test. Its not complicated stuff, but very broad. Best Regards, Adam Reynolds Cold Fusion / Web Developer ISMG Development, Unilever London Tel.: +44 20 7822 x5450 Mob.: +44 7973 386620 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: John Doe [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 February 2001 17:59 To: CF-Talk Subject:Anyone know of any good CF tests? I am looking to put together a pre-employment test to check the knowledge level of a job candidate who claims to be an expert cf developer. Does anyone know of any available tests (not online, what I'm looking for is some type of written test) for this purpose? I would like to be able to bring the candidate in and have them take the test under controlled circumstances - i.e. I don't want them to be able to do it from home, consult w/friends, look things up...I want to make sure I am getting what is being sold, if you see what I mean. Thanks, Aaron ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests?
Yes, it would be great, I just wish I had the time to put something together, which is why I was hoping someone on the list had something they might be willing to share. The more I think about it, the more I think I DO want the test taker to be able to use books to look things up. My bigger concern has to do with the person's ability to think in a complex way. THAT is what I really want to test for. Aaron Original Message Follows From: Tony Schreiber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests? Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:01:43 -0500 (EST) There is of course, the Allaire Certification... Brainbuzz.com has a CF SKillDrill... I have a test my brother wrote for hiring developers... Seems like it would be easy enough to make... given the quantity of materials available from online tests, college courses, and Allaire Certification prep books. The main problem you main have is determining what is truly an expert... I would classify myself as very knowledgeable, but wouldn't think of doing a job without some type of reference book available. As I sit here at type this, I have (literally) 9 ColdFusion Books and various other references sitting on my desk. Heath -Original Message- From: John Doe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 12:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Anyone know of any good CF tests? I am looking to put together a pre-employment test to check the knowledge level of a job candidate who claims to be an expert cf developer. Does anyone know of any available tests (not online, what I'm looking for is some type of written test) for this purpose? I would like to be able to bring the candidate in and have them take the test under controlled circumstances - i.e. I don't want them to be able to do it from home, consult w/friends, look things up...I want to make sure I am getting what is being sold, if you see what I mean. Thanks, Aaron ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Anyone know of any good CF tests?
So don't ask them a code oriented question. Ask them to write the code for you. Ask them how they would handle a problem IE a shopping cart. What code they would use etc. See how well they plan the cart. - Original Message - From: "John Doe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 1:32 PM Subject: RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests? Yes, it would be great, I just wish I had the time to put something together, which is why I was hoping someone on the list had something they might be willing to share. The more I think about it, the more I think I DO want the test taker to be able to use books to look things up. My bigger concern has to do with the person's ability to think in a complex way. THAT is what I really want to test for. Aaron Original Message Follows From: Tony Schreiber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests? Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:01:43 -0500 (EST) There is of course, the Allaire Certification... Brainbuzz.com has a CF SKillDrill... I have a test my brother wrote for hiring developers... Seems like it would be easy enough to make... given the quantity of materials available from online tests, college courses, and Allaire Certification prep books. The main problem you main have is determining what is truly an expert... I would classify myself as very knowledgeable, but wouldn't think of doing a job without some type of reference book available. As I sit here at type this, I have (literally) 9 ColdFusion Books and various other references sitting on my desk. Heath -Original Message- From: John Doe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 12:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Anyone know of any good CF tests? I am looking to put together a pre-employment test to check the knowledge level of a job candidate who claims to be an expert cf developer. Does anyone know of any available tests (not online, what I'm looking for is some type of written test) for this purpose? I would like to be able to bring the candidate in and have them take the test under controlled circumstances - i.e. I don't want them to be able to do it from home, consult w/friends, look things up...I want to make sure I am getting what is being sold, if you see what I mean. Thanks, Aaron ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests?
A good CF test... Let's see... Oh I know! Have them install Spectra. If they can get it running, hire them grin Sorry, just had to slip that one in there :) -Original Message- From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 12:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone know of any good CF tests? So don't ask them a code oriented question. Ask them to write the code for you. Ask them how they would handle a problem IE a shopping cart. What code they would use etc. See how well they plan the cart. - Original Message - From: "John Doe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 1:32 PM Subject: RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests? Yes, it would be great, I just wish I had the time to put something together, which is why I was hoping someone on the list had something they might be willing to share. The more I think about it, the more I think I DO want the test taker to be able to use books to look things up. My bigger concern has to do with the person's ability to think in a complex way. THAT is what I really want to test for. Aaron Original Message Follows From: Tony Schreiber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests? Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:01:43 -0500 (EST) There is of course, the Allaire Certification... Brainbuzz.com has a CF SKillDrill... I have a test my brother wrote for hiring developers... Seems like it would be easy enough to make... given the quantity of materials available from online tests, college courses, and Allaire Certification prep books. The main problem you main have is determining what is truly an expert... I would classify myself as very knowledgeable, but wouldn't think of doing a job without some type of reference book available. As I sit here at type this, I have (literally) 9 ColdFusion Books and various other references sitting on my desk. Heath -Original Message- From: John Doe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 12:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Anyone know of any good CF tests? I am looking to put together a pre-employment test to check the knowledge level of a job candidate who claims to be an expert cf developer. Does anyone know of any available tests (not online, what I'm looking for is some type of written test) for this purpose? I would like to be able to bring the candidate in and have them take the test under controlled circumstances - i.e. I don't want them to be able to do it from home, consult w/friends, look things up...I want to make sure I am getting what is being sold, if you see what I mean. Thanks, Aaron ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Anyone know of any good CF tests?
Yes, and actually my first thought was to use a cart problem. Maybe this
will be an interesting experiment, trying to put together a real
thought-provoking set of questions.
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From: "Kevin Schmidt" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Anyone know of any good CF tests?
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:44:18 -0600
So don't ask them a code oriented question. Ask them to write the code for
you. Ask them how they would handle a problem IE a shopping cart. What
code they would use etc. See how well they plan the cart.
- Original Message -
From: "John Doe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 1:32 PM
Subject: RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests?
Yes, it would be great, I just wish I had the time to put something
together, which is why I was hoping someone on the list had something
they
might be willing to share. The more I think about it, the more I think I
DO
want the test taker to be able to use books to look things up. My bigger
concern has to do with the person's ability to think in a complex way.
THAT
is what I really want to test for.
Aaron
Original Message Follows
From: Tony Schreiber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests?
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:01:43 -0500 (EST)
There is of course, the Allaire Certification...
Brainbuzz.com has a CF SKillDrill...
I have a test my brother wrote for hiring developers...
Seems like it would be easy enough to make... given the quantity of
materials available from online tests, college courses, and Allaire
Certification prep books.
The main problem you main have is determining what is truly an
expert...
I would classify myself as very knowledgeable, but wouldn't think of
doing a
job without some type of reference book available. As I sit here at
type
this, I have (literally) 9 ColdFusion Books and various other
references
sitting on my desk.
Heath
-Original Message-
From: John Doe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 12:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Anyone know of any good CF tests?
I am looking to put together a pre-employment test to check the
knowledge
level of a job candidate who claims to be an expert cf developer. Does
anyone know of any available tests (not online, what I'm looking for
is
some
type of written test) for this purpose? I would like to be able to
bring
the
candidate in and have them take the test under controlled
circumstances -
i.e. I don't want them to be able to do it from home, consult
w/friends,
look things up...I want to make sure I am getting what is being sold,
if
you
see what I mean.
Thanks,
Aaron
~~
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RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests?
if they can design a pretty good web app (timesheet or shopping cart) then it'll be fine -Original Message- From: David Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 1:58 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests? A good CF test... Let's see... Oh I know! Have them install Spectra. If they can get it running, hire them grin Sorry, just had to slip that one in there :) -Original Message- From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 12:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone know of any good CF tests? So don't ask them a code oriented question. Ask them to write the code for you. Ask them how they would handle a problem IE a shopping cart. What code they would use etc. See how well they plan the cart. - Original Message - From: "John Doe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 1:32 PM Subject: RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests? Yes, it would be great, I just wish I had the time to put something together, which is why I was hoping someone on the list had something they might be willing to share. The more I think about it, the more I think I DO want the test taker to be able to use books to look things up. My bigger concern has to do with the person's ability to think in a complex way. THAT is what I really want to test for. Aaron Original Message Follows From: Tony Schreiber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests? Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:01:43 -0500 (EST) There is of course, the Allaire Certification... Brainbuzz.com has a CF SKillDrill... I have a test my brother wrote for hiring developers... Seems like it would be easy enough to make... given the quantity of materials available from online tests, college courses, and Allaire Certification prep books. The main problem you main have is determining what is truly an expert... I would classify myself as very knowledgeable, but wouldn't think of doing a job without some type of reference book available. As I sit here at type this, I have (literally) 9 ColdFusion Books and various other references sitting on my desk. Heath -Original Message- From: John Doe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 12:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Anyone know of any good CF tests? I am looking to put together a pre-employment test to check the knowledge level of a job candidate who claims to be an expert cf developer. Does anyone know of any available tests (not online, what I'm looking for is some type of written test) for this purpose? I would like to be able to bring the candidate in and have them take the test under controlled circumstances - i.e. I don't want them to be able to do it from home, consult w/friends, look things up...I want to make sure I am getting what is being sold, if you see what I mean. Thanks, Aaron ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests?
I came up with a test that a user has to do on-line. I provide the specs and the database fields, user has one hour to complete the test and have it working in a folder I provide. I can do it in one hour, most of the interviewees couldn't and you should have seen some of the stuff they came up with. I even provided a display file which most of them simply copied. Pretty funny. If you want it, let me know and I will email you a zip file. I think that giving them specs and seeing how they solve the problem does a lot more than giving them something like brainbench. (Of course I did score high on that, but didn't think it had a lot of real world applicability.) -Original Message- From: David Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 11:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests? A good CF test... Let's see... Oh I know! Have them install Spectra. If they can get it running, hire them grin Sorry, just had to slip that one in there :) -Original Message- From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 12:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone know of any good CF tests? So don't ask them a code oriented question. Ask them to write the code for you. Ask them how they would handle a problem IE a shopping cart. What code they would use etc. See how well they plan the cart. - Original Message - From: "John Doe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 1:32 PM Subject: RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests? Yes, it would be great, I just wish I had the time to put something together, which is why I was hoping someone on the list had something they might be willing to share. The more I think about it, the more I think I DO want the test taker to be able to use books to look things up. My bigger concern has to do with the person's ability to think in a complex way. THAT is what I really want to test for. Aaron Original Message Follows From: Tony Schreiber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests? Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:01:43 -0500 (EST) There is of course, the Allaire Certification... Brainbuzz.com has a CF SKillDrill... I have a test my brother wrote for hiring developers... Seems like it would be easy enough to make... given the quantity of materials available from online tests, college courses, and Allaire Certification prep books. The main problem you main have is determining what is truly an expert... I would classify myself as very knowledgeable, but wouldn't think of doing a job without some type of reference book available. As I sit here at type this, I have (literally) 9 ColdFusion Books and various other references sitting on my desk. Heath -Original Message- From: John Doe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 12:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Anyone know of any good CF tests? I am looking to put together a pre-employment test to check the knowledge level of a job candidate who claims to be an expert cf developer. Does anyone know of any available tests (not online, what I'm looking for is some type of written test) for this purpose? I would like to be able to bring the candidate in and have them take the test under controlled circumstances - i.e. I don't want them to be able to do it from home, consult w/friends, look things up...I want to make sure I am getting what is being sold, if you see what I mean. Thanks, Aaron ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests?
I would be interested in your test -Original Message- From: Sandra Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 4:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests? I came up with a test that a user has to do on-line. I provide the specs and the database fields, user has one hour to complete the test and have it working in a folder I provide. I can do it in one hour, most of the interviewees couldn't and you should have seen some of the stuff they came up with. I even provided a display file which most of them simply copied. Pretty funny. If you want it, let me know and I will email you a zip file. I think that giving them specs and seeing how they solve the problem does a lot more than giving them something like brainbench. (Of course I did score high on that, but didn't think it had a lot of real world applicability.) -Original Message- From: David Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 11:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests? A good CF test... Let's see... Oh I know! Have them install Spectra. If they can get it running, hire them grin Sorry, just had to slip that one in there :) -Original Message- From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 12:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone know of any good CF tests? So don't ask them a code oriented question. Ask them to write the code for you. Ask them how they would handle a problem IE a shopping cart. What code they would use etc. See how well they plan the cart. - Original Message - From: "John Doe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 1:32 PM Subject: RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests? Yes, it would be great, I just wish I had the time to put something together, which is why I was hoping someone on the list had something they might be willing to share. The more I think about it, the more I think I DO want the test taker to be able to use books to look things up. My bigger concern has to do with the person's ability to think in a complex way. THAT is what I really want to test for. Aaron Original Message Follows From: Tony Schreiber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests? Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:01:43 -0500 (EST) There is of course, the Allaire Certification... Brainbuzz.com has a CF SKillDrill... I have a test my brother wrote for hiring developers... Seems like it would be easy enough to make... given the quantity of materials available from online tests, college courses, and Allaire Certification prep books. The main problem you main have is determining what is truly an expert... I would classify myself as very knowledgeable, but wouldn't think of doing a job without some type of reference book available. As I sit here at type this, I have (literally) 9 ColdFusion Books and various other references sitting on my desk. Heath -Original Message- From: John Doe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 12:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Anyone know of any good CF tests? I am looking to put together a pre-employment test to check the knowledge level of a job candidate who claims to be an expert cf developer. Does anyone know of any available tests (not online, what I'm looking for is some type of written test) for this purpose? I would like to be able to bring the candidate in and have them take the test under controlled circumstances - i.e. I don't want them to be able to do it from home, consult w/friends, look things up...I want to make sure I am getting what is being sold, if you see what I mean. Thanks, Aaron ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Anyone know of any good CF tests?
I am looking to put together a pre-employment test to check the knowledge level of a job candidate who claims to be an expert cf developer. Does anyone know of any available tests (not online, what I'm looking for is some type of written test) for this purpose? I would like to be able to bring the candidate in and have them take the test under controlled circumstances - i.e. I don't want them to be able to do it from home, consult w/friends, look things up...I want to make sure I am getting what is being sold, if you see what I mean. Thanks, Aaron ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests?
Seems like it would be easy enough to make... given the quantity of materials available from online tests, college courses, and Allaire Certification prep books. The main problem you main have is determining what is truly an expert... I would classify myself as very knowledgeable, but wouldn't think of doing a job without some type of reference book available. As I sit here at type this, I have (literally) 9 ColdFusion Books and various other references sitting on my desk. Heath -Original Message- From: John Doe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 12:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Anyone know of any good CF tests? I am looking to put together a pre-employment test to check the knowledge level of a job candidate who claims to be an expert cf developer. Does anyone know of any available tests (not online, what I'm looking for is some type of written test) for this purpose? I would like to be able to bring the candidate in and have them take the test under controlled circumstances - i.e. I don't want them to be able to do it from home, consult w/friends, look things up...I want to make sure I am getting what is being sold, if you see what I mean. Thanks, Aaron ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: [Anyone know of any good CF tests?]
brainbennch but keep in mind these tests are a joke. they are only good to get past HR or hiring mangers. "John Doe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking to put together a pre-employment test to check the knowledge level of a job candidate who claims to be an expert cf developer. Does anyone know of any available tests (not online, what I'm looking for is some type of written test) for this purpose? I would like to be able to bring the candidate in and have them take the test under controlled circumstances - i.e. I don't want them to be able to do it from home, consult w/friends, look things up...I want to make sure I am getting what is being sold, if you see what I mean. Thanks, Aaron ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Anyone know of any good CF tests?
I don't know of any written ones, but perhaps if you contact Brainbench you can use theirs in a printed fashion? They offer certifications one of which is CF 4.5 so that in a written form might do the trick. Another site to look at is http://www.cfcertification.com/ I've never been through it but I know they have some samples and what not. Another option you might consider is a Technical Interview, I've been through a few of them and as long as the interviewer know his stuff he'll be able to talk to the candidate and see what he/she knows, in a much less threatening way than a closed room test. Unfortunately both methods are not overly effective. I personally am a terrible test taker, it's just not in me, I also refuse to take knowledge tests like techcheck and what not, they merely gage an individuals ability to 1. take tests, and 2. retain information. I also hold dear, a quote I once heard from I believe Einstein, "I don't keep things in my head, that can be readily found in a book" Whenever I'm developing I am always within arms reach of my CF and SQL books. I'm sure there are those out there that have memorized every SQL and CF function available, I have no problems looking them up :-) That probably doesn't help much but hopefully there is a take away from it somewhere inside. J. John Wilker Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer "There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened." --Douglas Adams - Original Message - From: "John Doe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 9:58 AM Subject: Anyone know of any good CF tests? I am looking to put together a pre-employment test to check the knowledge level of a job candidate who claims to be an expert cf developer. Does anyone know of any available tests (not online, what I'm looking for is some type of written test) for this purpose? I would like to be able to bring the candidate in and have them take the test under controlled circumstances - i.e. I don't want them to be able to do it from home, consult w/friends, look things up...I want to make sure I am getting what is being sold, if you see what I mean. Thanks, Aaron ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Anyone know of any good CF tests?
ack .. I would like to recall that last e-mail. Maybe I should have read the entire post before responding. I guess you could take the brainbech test yourself and write down all of the questions and give it to him on paper though ;) Todd Ashworth -- Web Application Developer Network Administrator - Original Message - From: "John Doe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 12:58 PM Subject: Anyone know of any good CF tests? | I am looking to put together a pre-employment test to check the knowledge | level of a job candidate who claims to be an expert cf developer. Does | anyone know of any available tests (not online, what I'm looking for is some | type of written test) for this purpose? I would like to be able to bring the | candidate in and have them take the test under controlled circumstances - | i.e. I don't want them to be able to do it from home, consult w/friends, | look things up...I want to make sure I am getting what is being sold, if you | see what I mean. | | Thanks, | | Aaron | ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Anyone know of any good CF tests?
www.brainbench.com Todd Ashworth -- Web Application Developer Network Administrator - Original Message - From: "John Doe" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 12:58 PM Subject: Anyone know of any good CF tests? | I am looking to put together a pre-employment test to check the knowledge | level of a job candidate who claims to be an expert cf developer. Does | anyone know of any available tests (not online, what I'm looking for is some | type of written test) for this purpose? I would like to be able to bring the | candidate in and have them take the test under controlled circumstances - | i.e. I don't want them to be able to do it from home, consult w/friends, | look things up...I want to make sure I am getting what is being sold, if you | see what I mean. | | Thanks, | | Aaron | ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Anyone know of any good CF tests?
There is of course, the Allaire Certification... Brainbuzz.com has a CF SKillDrill... I have a test my brother wrote for hiring developers... Seems like it would be easy enough to make... given the quantity of materials available from online tests, college courses, and Allaire Certification prep books. The main problem you main have is determining what is truly an expert... I would classify myself as very knowledgeable, but wouldn't think of doing a job without some type of reference book available. As I sit here at type this, I have (literally) 9 ColdFusion Books and various other references sitting on my desk. Heath -Original Message- From: John Doe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 12:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Anyone know of any good CF tests? I am looking to put together a pre-employment test to check the knowledge level of a job candidate who claims to be an expert cf developer. Does anyone know of any available tests (not online, what I'm looking for is some type of written test) for this purpose? I would like to be able to bring the candidate in and have them take the test under controlled circumstances - i.e. I don't want them to be able to do it from home, consult w/friends, look things up...I want to make sure I am getting what is being sold, if you see what I mean. Thanks, Aaron ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
