CF Webstore

2001-12-04 Thread C Runyan

Thanks to all for the comments about AbleCommerce.  Based on what we're 
hearing and looking at the CFDJ readers survey CF Webstore looks like a 
reasonable alternative.  If anyone has used CF Webstore and modified the 
code let me know what you think.  Another consideration is whether it can 
handle a large amount of traffic.  Hopefully a good package would use 
CFTRANSACTION processing for reliability.

Chris



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CF WebStore

2000-12-10 Thread Adrian Cooper

Having looked at various options for online transactions and credit card
processing, CFWebStore seems to be were it is at.

Could someone who uses CFWebStore, tell me whether it will facilitate customer
online order tracking? That is to say, a facility whereby a customer can login
to their own account to check order status, despatch status etc. etc..  like
e.g. like Amazon. This is almost a defacto requirement these days, and the
customer feels alot more confident having ready access to such information.

Thanks.

Adrian Cooper.



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RE: CF Webstore

2001-12-04 Thread Janssen Dolores Y (Contractor)

i have put up 4 e-commerce sites with cfwebstore, and have one in process:
one uses it only for the backend, have made alot of addons/mods to certain
areas, v3.12
one is v3.02, 2 are v4, one will be v4.5

other than needing a visio chart for program flow, i've found it reasonable
to modify - and with v4.5 using cflock extensively, as long as you use a
solid db - NOT access - you should do ok - mary jo could probably tell you
which customers have the biggest trafficked sites - email me offline if you
would like the url's


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Re: CF Webstore

2001-12-04 Thread Jon Hall

A good piece of software would not rely on cftransaction at all It's a
handy shortcut that's all.

jon
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Subject: CF Webstore


> Thanks to all for the comments about AbleCommerce.  Based on what we're
> hearing and looking at the CFDJ readers survey CF Webstore looks like a
> reasonable alternative.  If anyone has used CF Webstore and modified the
> code let me know what you think.  Another consideration is whether it can
> handle a large amount of traffic.  Hopefully a good package would use
> CFTRANSACTION processing for reliability.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> 
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RE: CF Webstore

2001-12-04 Thread Christopher Olive

how do you justify that argument, out of curiosity?

christopher olive, cto, vp of web development
cresco technologies, inc
410.825.0383
http://www.crescotech.com


-Original Message-
From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 1:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
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A good piece of software would not rely on cftransaction at all It's
a
handy shortcut that's all.

jon
- Original Message -
From: "C Runyan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 12:49 PM
Subject: CF Webstore


> Thanks to all for the comments about AbleCommerce.  Based on what
we're
> hearing and looking at the CFDJ readers survey CF Webstore looks like
a
> reasonable alternative.  If anyone has used CF Webstore and modified
the
> code let me know what you think.  Another consideration is whether it
can
> handle a large amount of traffic.  Hopefully a good package would use
> CFTRANSACTION processing for reliability.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> 

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Re: CF Webstore

2001-12-04 Thread admin

great software and easy to modify - we've made major changes with no prblems
at all
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Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 10:41 AM
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> A good piece of software would not rely on cftransaction at all It's a
> handy shortcut that's all.
>
> jon
> - Original Message -
> From: "C Runyan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 12:49 PM
> Subject: CF Webstore
>
>
> > Thanks to all for the comments about AbleCommerce.  Based on what we're
> > hearing and looking at the CFDJ readers survey CF Webstore looks like a
> > reasonable alternative.  If anyone has used CF Webstore and modified the
> > code let me know what you think.  Another consideration is whether it
can
> > handle a large amount of traffic.  Hopefully a good package would use
> > CFTRANSACTION processing for reliability.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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Re: CF Webstore

2001-12-04 Thread C Runyan

I guess you're right that there are other ways to accomplish the same goal.  
A different method for scalability might be better for us especially if it 
works well with MySQL which apparently does not support CFTRANSACTION.  
We've been using MySQL and find it easy to work with, but weren't sure if it 
is the best solution for our e-commerce.  I think CFWebstore can use any 
database.

Chris

>From: "Jon Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: CF Webstore
>Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 13:41:52 -0500
>
>A good piece of software would not rely on cftransaction at all It's a
>handy shortcut that's all.
>
>jon
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>From: "C Runyan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 12:49 PM
>Subject: CF Webstore
>
>
> > Thanks to all for the comments about AbleCommerce.  Based on what we're
> > hearing and looking at the CFDJ readers survey CF Webstore looks like a
> > reasonable alternative.  If anyone has used CF Webstore and modified the
> > code let me know what you think.  Another consideration is whether it 
>can
> > handle a large amount of traffic.  Hopefully a good package would use
> > CFTRANSACTION processing for reliability.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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RE: CF Webstore

2001-12-04 Thread Benjamin S. Rogers

The CFTRANSACTION tag is used to bundle multiple queries into a single
transaction so that the queries can be committed or rolled back as a group.
This is a fundamental aspect of SQL itself: it is not a short cut.

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-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 1:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
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A good piece of software would not rely on cftransaction at all It's a
handy shortcut that's all.

jon
- Original Message -
From: "C Runyan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 12:49 PM
Subject: CF Webstore


> Thanks to all for the comments about AbleCommerce.  Based on what we're
> hearing and looking at the CFDJ readers survey CF Webstore looks like a
> reasonable alternative.  If anyone has used CF Webstore and modified the
> code let me know what you think.  Another consideration is whether it can
> handle a large amount of traffic.  Hopefully a good package would use
> CFTRANSACTION processing for reliability.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>

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RE: CF Webstore

2001-12-04 Thread Paris Lundis

MySQL will work... and work well... ideally, you will have some
workaround/redefining to do since some things most of us take for granted
are not supported...

they have a large client base with usage across many industries...

The cftransaction workaround will be an interesting one...

as with most things you can't yet do by default in MySQL... surely there is
a longer more pure way to likely achieve the same thing...

-paris


-Original Message-
From: C Runyan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 14:05
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Webstore


I guess you're right that there are other ways to accomplish the same goal.
A different method for scalability might be better for us especially if it
works well with MySQL which apparently does not support CFTRANSACTION.
We've been using MySQL and find it easy to work with, but weren't sure if it
is the best solution for our e-commerce.  I think CFWebstore can use any
database.

Chris

>From: "Jon Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: CF Webstore
>Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 13:41:52 -0500
>
>A good piece of software would not rely on cftransaction at all It's a
>handy shortcut that's all.
>
>jon
>- Original Message -
>From: "C Runyan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 12:49 PM
>Subject: CF Webstore
>
>
> > Thanks to all for the comments about AbleCommerce.  Based on what we're
> > hearing and looking at the CFDJ readers survey CF Webstore looks like a
> > reasonable alternative.  If anyone has used CF Webstore and modified the
> > code let me know what you think.  Another consideration is whether it
>can
> > handle a large amount of traffic.  Hopefully a good package would use
> > CFTRANSACTION processing for reliability.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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Re: CF Webstore

2001-12-04 Thread Lewis Sellers

On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:04:50 -0500, "Benjamin S. Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>The CFTRANSACTION tag is used to bundle multiple queries into a single
>transaction so that the queries can be committed or rolled back as a group.
>This is a fundamental aspect of SQL itself: it is not a short cut.

Dito. The purpose of the sql transaction command as he said is to make
groups of sql statements what is technically called "atomic". This is
absolutely crucial in real-world enterprise environments.

Any database that doesnt support transaction rollbacks I tend to sneer
at as being a toy.

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RE: CF Webstore

2001-12-04 Thread Dave Watts

> The CFTRANSACTION tag is used to bundle multiple queries into a 
> single transaction so that the queries can be committed or rolled 
> back as a group. This is a fundamental aspect of SQL itself: it 
> is not a short cut.

I think that what Jon meant (and I kind of agree with him, if this is in
fact what he meant) is that transactional processing should be handled
within the database, as opposed to within the application. So, rather than
using CFTRANSACTION, you'd put your transactional processing within a stored
procedure, and simply call that from CF.

Of course, maybe he meant something else entirely.

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RE: CF Webstore

2001-12-04 Thread Benjamin S. Rogers

Ah, yes, in that sense, I would agree with him, too, from a performance
stand point. It still might be preferable to use CFTRANSACTION and rely on
ColdFusion's inherent database abstraction when building a packaged
application or any other application that could be expected to run against
different databases.

I still don't believe that an application that uses CFTRANSACTION is
necessarily a bad one, as Jon stated. Perhaps there are some issues with
CFTRANSACTION I'm not aware of though? In any case, I hadn't considered
Jon's statement from the performance standpoint when comparing the use of
CFTRANSACTION to its native equivalents.

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-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 3:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Webstore


> The CFTRANSACTION tag is used to bundle multiple queries into a
> single transaction so that the queries can be committed or rolled
> back as a group. This is a fundamental aspect of SQL itself: it
> is not a short cut.

I think that what Jon meant (and I kind of agree with him, if this is in
fact what he meant) is that transactional processing should be handled
within the database, as opposed to within the application. So, rather than
using CFTRANSACTION, you'd put your transactional processing within a stored
procedure, and simply call that from CF.

Of course, maybe he meant something else entirely.

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RE: CF WebStore

2000-12-10 Thread Chris Montgomery



> Could someone who uses CFWebStore, tell me whether it will
> facilitate customer online order tracking?


No, it doesn't.  You would need to modify the app yourself.  Others have
requested this as a future feature addition, but I don't know if Mary Jo
(the author) is going to add it.  You should probably contact her directly
for more info.

There is also a CFWebStore discussion list you can sign up for if you have
more questions.  I believe you can sign up at http://www.cfwebstore.com.

Chris Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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