Re: CF friendly URL Major Search Engine Design.

2000-09-24 Thread Chris Lott

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http://www.greatgames.co.uk/index.cfm/fuseaction/ACTION
  
 index.cfm is an directory ? how can i do that ?
 I use a fuseaction like a URL paramater not like a directory.

No, you code the way you normall would. The formURL2attributes tag
just converts everything after the index.cfm to the appropriate
variables.

So in your code where you normally write
http://foo.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=runaway

You would make the link
http://foo.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/runaway

(you can even add a .htm on the end if you want)

The formurl2attributes tag converts the /fuseaction/runaway to the
appropriate attributes.fuseaction = runaway

(Since it sounds like you are using Fusebox, then you are probably
using that tag. If you are NOT, then you can write a function
yourself to parse the cgi.query_string variable, which is where the
extra information gets stored.

c

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Re: CF friendly URL Major Search Engine Design.

2000-09-23 Thread paul smith

It's not a CF drawback as much as it's a dynamic page drawback,
whether you use CF, cgi, asp, perl, or whatever.

That is, one problem is that as soon as a search engine sees the
"?" in the following: index.cfm?ID=234 it assumes ID can have
many values and stops.  There are workarounds, one article
mentioned here recently is:

http://www.clickz.com/cgi-bin/gt/article.html?article=2444

best,  paul

At 10:20 AM 9/22/00 +, you wrote:
I've been made aware that a drawback of CF is that the URL's are
unfriendly to the major search engines.



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Re: CF friendly URL Major Search Engine Design.

2000-09-23 Thread Juan Andres Alvarez Valenzuela

I was looking your website and it seems to be what a I need, but..how you
did ?

http://www.greatgames.co.uk/index.cfm/fuseaction/ACTION

index.cfm is an directory ? how can i do that ?
I use a fuseaction like a URL paramater not like a directory.

thanks in advance,

Juandres


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 See http://www.greatgames.co.uk (still under dev) as an example search
 engine friendly site.

 It uses the fusebox tag formurl2attributes to manage the fuseactions.

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  Subject: CF friendly URL Major Search Engine Design.
 
  I've been made aware that a drawback of CF is that the URL's are
  unfriendly to the major search engines. This is one benefit of the
  Fusebox architecture that bypasses the unfriendly normal CF designed
  URL's. Is there a work around that can be used to make CF URL's more
  search engine friendly? Does frame use come into play?
  I can't see developing a site that can not be easily found by the major
  search engines.
  Please help.
 
  Thanks
  KM
 

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RE: CF friendly URL Major Search Engine Design.

2000-09-23 Thread Mark Warrick

With proper coding, even a templates within a fusebox app can show up properly in the 
search engines.

This subject has come up many times on the Fusebox list.  I'd suggest you look through 
the archives of that list and visit the Fusebox.org site for information on how to do 
it.

Personally, I don't want the engines digging into my sites anyway.  I'm happy with a 
simple link to the front door.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Juan Andres Alvarez Valenzuela [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:13 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CF friendly URL Major Search Engine Design.
 
 
 We have the same problem thanks to fusebox thing.
 I realize some spider doesn`t index de index.cfm page again, no 
 matter what
 fuseaction the url have, always is the same page: index.cfm.
 we had to use directories with redirection and precalculated pages but we
 dont know if this may work. :)
 
 any other ideas?
 
 Juandres
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Kevin Merker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 12:20 PM
 Subject: CF friendly URL Major Search Engine Design.
 
 
  I've been made aware that a drawback of CF is that the URL's are
  unfriendly to the major search engines. This is one benefit of the
  Fusebox architecture that bypasses the unfriendly normal CF designed
  URL's. Is there a work around that can be used to make CF URL's more
  search engine friendly? Does frame use come into play?
  I can't see developing a site that can not be easily found by the major
  search engines.
  Please help.
 
  Thanks
  KM
 
  
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CF friendly URL Major Search Engine Design.

2000-09-22 Thread Kevin Merker

I've been made aware that a drawback of CF is that the URL's are
unfriendly to the major search engines. This is one benefit of the
Fusebox architecture that bypasses the unfriendly normal CF designed
URL's. Is there a work around that can be used to make CF URL's more
search engine friendly? Does frame use come into play?
I can't see developing a site that can not be easily found by the major
search engines.
Please help.

Thanks
KM

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RE: CF friendly URL Major Search Engine Design.

2000-09-22 Thread Juan Andres Alvarez Valenzuela

We have the same problem thanks to fusebox thing.
I realize some spider doesn`t index de index.cfm page again, no matter what
fuseaction the url have, always is the same page: index.cfm.
we had to use directories with redirection and precalculated pages but we
dont know if this may work. :)

any other ideas?

Juandres


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From: Kevin Merker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 12:20 PM
Subject: CF friendly URL Major Search Engine Design.


 I've been made aware that a drawback of CF is that the URL's are
 unfriendly to the major search engines. This is one benefit of the
 Fusebox architecture that bypasses the unfriendly normal CF designed
 URL's. Is there a work around that can be used to make CF URL's more
 search engine friendly? Does frame use come into play?
 I can't see developing a site that can not be easily found by the major
 search engines.
 Please help.

 Thanks
 KM

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Re: CF friendly URL Major Search Engine Design.

2000-09-22 Thread Kevin Schmidt

Kevin,

I found away around this.  This worked for me anyway.  We worked with a law
firm whose practice groups and attorney info was stored in a DB unaccesible
to search engines.  So what I did was generate static HTML with Cold Fusion
and left the templates on the server for the search engines to pick up.  I
put a META tag with a refresh of 0 to the actual CF template in the HTML. So
if someone clicked the on the link of the HTML from the search engine they
are actually going to get the CFM page.
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From: "Kevin Merker" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 5:20 AM
Subject: CF friendly URL Major Search Engine Design.


 I've been made aware that a drawback of CF is that the URL's are
 unfriendly to the major search engines. This is one benefit of the
 Fusebox architecture that bypasses the unfriendly normal CF designed
 URL's. Is there a work around that can be used to make CF URL's more
 search engine friendly? Does frame use come into play?
 I can't see developing a site that can not be easily found by the major
 search engines.
 Please help.

 Thanks
 KM

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RE: CF friendly URL Major Search Engine Design.

2000-09-22 Thread Robert Everland III

Just us the custom tag that someone has made in fusebox for your regular
coldfusion coding. I think it's cf_formurltoattrib or somerthing like that
it's on fusebox.org.


Bob Everland

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Subject: CF friendly URL Major Search Engine Design.


I've been made aware that a drawback of CF is that the URL's are
unfriendly to the major search engines. This is one benefit of the
Fusebox architecture that bypasses the unfriendly normal CF designed
URL's. Is there a work around that can be used to make CF URL's more
search engine friendly? Does frame use come into play?
I can't see developing a site that can not be easily found by the major
search engines.
Please help.

Thanks
KM


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Re: CF friendly URL Major Search Engine Design.

2000-09-22 Thread Chris Lott

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We have the same problem thanks to fusebox thing.
  I realize some spider doesn`t index de index.cfm page again, no matter
 what fuseaction the url have, always is the same page: index.cfm.
 we had to use directories with redirection and precalculated pages but
 we dont know if this may work. :)

If you are using Fusebox and formURL2attributes, then you can change
this:

index.cfm?fuseaction=foomyvar=bar

with this:

index.cfm/fuseaction/foo/myvar/bar.htm

and it will work the same (if you are using Apache, you have to have the
latest Service Pack). Works like a champ and the search engines seem to
pick it up fine.

If you aren't using formURL2attributes you can write something to parse
the cgi.query_string variable and do it yourself, since that is what the
tag does...

c

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