Re: CF sourceless deployment tool

2009-03-03 Thread Tom Chiverton

On Monday 02 Mar 2009, Bob wrote:
 http://www.cfinsider.com/index.cfm/2007/11/1/Key-Market-Trends-Surrounding-
ColdFusion

Well, that's from a while back, and I think Railo and Adobe have both 
announced the idea of 'packaged' applications for their CFML engines.

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Re: CF sourceless deployment tool

2009-03-03 Thread Larry Lyons

Hi Bob,

You could also use Microsoft Wix to build a deployment package.

Jose Diaz



Why not just use Ant? The language is simple and you have very fine grained 
control over the deployment. 

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Re: CF sourceless deployment tool

2009-03-03 Thread Brian Kotek

You could look at the CAR, WAR, and EAR options?

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 2:10 AM, Bob sol_xp...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Hello ,

 Every developer who uses Coldfusion gets addicted to it’s power !
 I am one of those developers who develop apps in PHP/JSP/.NET and other
 languages
 But I always prefer CF and enjoy using it , that being said , brings the
 reason for my Question :

 Why isn’t there a tool to help deploy (compile and obfuscate) coldfusion
 applications???
 Cfencrypt is not secure or practical since you can decrypt and deployment
 is a mess.
 Cfcompile is not secure or practical since you can decompile into servlets
 and deployment is a mess.

 I agree with Jason Delmore,
 When all you want is a wiki or a blog... all you want to do is check a box
 and have it work. I think we need to make applications in general easier to
 install. No offense to Ray Camden, BlogCFC is a very cool app, but it should
 only take me 1 minute to install and I shouldn't need to understand the
 slightest bit about how the code works! Adobe, along with the community,
 needs to work on a standard method for installing and managing applications
 that is flexible enough to support all the different ways of creating
 applications... but consistent enough to just work.

 http://www.cfinsider.com/index.cfm/2007/11/1/Key-Market-Trends-Surrounding-ColdFusion

 as a developer i ask , what is the best practice to neatly and securely
 deploy a CF application ?
 your feedback and suggestions are highly appreciated .

 regards
 Bob




 

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Re: CF sourceless deployment tool

2009-03-02 Thread Peter Boughton

Railo Extension Manager will support easy and quick deployments.

Hopefully, once it is released, Adobe and OpenBD will support the same 
structure, so it can become a standard CFML deployment tool.

Information here:
http://www.railo.ch/blog/index.cfm/2008/9/3/Extension-Manager
http://www.railo.ch/blog/index.cfm/2008/8/15/Bye-for-now


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Re: CF sourceless deployment tool

2009-03-02 Thread James Holmes

Can you point out the tools available for PHP that fulfill these
criteria so we can compare?

mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles:
http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/

2009/3/2 Bob sol_xp...@yahoo.com:

 Why isn’t there a tool to help deploy (compile and obfuscate) coldfusion 
 applications???
 Cfencrypt is not secure or practical since you can decrypt and deployment is 
 a mess.
 Cfcompile is not secure or practical since you can decompile into servlets 
 and deployment is a mess

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Re: CF sourceless deployment tool

2009-03-02 Thread Bob

@James
I don't think such tools exist for PHP , only for Java and .NET applications.

but i didn't mention PHP cause it has them ...
just to point out how much i prefer CF over other popular languages ,
and would like to see it as capable in terms of Deployment as it is in other 
areas .

@Peter
extension manager , would be great if it was supported by Adobe .


 




From: James Holmes james.hol...@gmail.com
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 9:55:23 AM
Subject: Re: CF sourceless deployment tool


Can you point out the tools available for PHP that fulfill these
criteria so we can compare?

mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles:
http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/

2009/3/2 Bob sol_xp...@yahoo.com:

 Why isn’t there a tool to help deploy (compile and obfuscate) coldfusion 
 applications???
 Cfencrypt is not secure or practical since you can decrypt and deployment is 
 a mess.
 Cfcompile is not secure or practical since you can decompile into servlets 
 and deployment is a mess



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Re: CF sourceless deployment tool

2009-03-02 Thread Jose Diaz

Hi Bob,

You could also use Microsoft Wix to build a deployment package.

Jose Diaz

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Bob sol_xp...@yahoo.com wrote:


 @James
 I don't think such tools exist for PHP , only for Java and .NET
 applications.

 but i didn't mention PHP cause it has them ...
 just to point out how much i prefer CF over other popular languages ,
 and would like to see it as capable in terms of Deployment as it is in
 other areas .

 @Peter
 extension manager , would be great if it was supported by Adobe .






 
 From: James Holmes james.hol...@gmail.com
 To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 9:55:23 AM
 Subject: Re: CF sourceless deployment tool


 Can you point out the tools available for PHP that fulfill these
 criteria so we can compare?

 mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles:
 http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/

 2009/3/2 Bob sol_xp...@yahoo.com:
 
  Why isn’t there a tool to help deploy (compile and obfuscate) coldfusion
 applications???
  Cfencrypt is not secure or practical since you can decrypt and deployment
 is a mess.
  Cfcompile is not secure or practical since you can decompile into
 servlets and deployment is a mess



 

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CF sourceless deployment tool

2009-03-01 Thread Bob

Hello ,

Every developer who uses Coldfusion gets addicted to it’s power !
I am one of those developers who develop apps in PHP/JSP/.NET and other 
languages
But I always prefer CF and enjoy using it , that being said , brings the reason 
for my Question :

Why isn’t there a tool to help deploy (compile and obfuscate) coldfusion 
applications???
Cfencrypt is not secure or practical since you can decrypt and deployment is a 
mess.
Cfcompile is not secure or practical since you can decompile into servlets and 
deployment is a mess.

I agree with Jason Delmore,
When all you want is a wiki or a blog... all you want to do is check a box and 
have it work. I think we need to make applications in general easier to 
install. No offense to Ray Camden, BlogCFC is a very cool app, but it should 
only take me 1 minute to install and I shouldn't need to understand the 
slightest bit about how the code works! Adobe, along with the community, needs 
to work on a standard method for installing and managing applications that is 
flexible enough to support all the different ways of creating applications... 
but consistent enough to just work.
http://www.cfinsider.com/index.cfm/2007/11/1/Key-Market-Trends-Surrounding-ColdFusion

as a developer i ask , what is the best practice to neatly and securely deploy 
a CF application ?
your feedback and suggestions are highly appreciated .

regards
Bob


  

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