RE: CF8 Debugging
As of CF8, I think you can give another path in the tag, or you can create a 'safe' CFIDE virtual dir, and use that in all the virtual hosts (except the one that runs the CF admin.) Actually, that's been around for a while, since CF 6 at least. In CF 7, you can set the default location for /CFIDE/scripts in the CF Administrator also. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:287970 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: CF8 Debugging
What other functionality relies on the CFIDE mapping? It it necessary for things like CFFORM? It's used by a lot of stuff, like CFFORM, CFWDDX, RDS, CFC browsing, the admin API, charting, probably some other stuff I've forgotten. Which also begs the question - is there some functionality that relies on the /cfdocs mapping? No. And, as an aside, that isn't begging the question. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question The thing about needing /CFIDE that strikes me a odd is that it contains the CF Administrator application, so that the Administrator becomes accessible from every web site on the server. Yes, it's up to the system administrator to make sure the CF Administrator is properly secured, but this still seems rather a lax approach. The CF Administrator isn't be needed on every site. Changing this would add significant complexity to what is already a relatively complex process. I would like to see it happen automatically as well, but I'm not sure how it could be done, to be perfectly honest. There are some processes which are easier to do manually, and I think this is one of them. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:287977 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF8 Debugging
On Thursday 06 Sep 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What other functionality relies on the CFIDE mapping? It it necessary for things like CFFORM? I believe so. As of CF8, I think you can give another path in the tag, or you can create a 'safe' CFIDE virtual dir, and use that in all the virtual hosts (except the one that runs the CF admin.). Which also begs the question is there some functionality that relies on the /cfdocs mapping? Not AFAIk. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to dynamically reintermediate one-to-one data on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the What's New PDF now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:287958 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
CF8 Debugging
Two questions: - Is there any way to enable Robust Exception Information _only_ for debugging IP addresses? It's a lot of useful information to have in the event of an error that isn't shown elsewhere in the debugging output, but it's too much information for outside visitors. - In the debugging output there's a little missing 'topdoc.gif' image, which is being referenced in a location within /CFIDE. Surely CF8 doesn't expect you to map CFIDE as a virtual directory in the HTTP server for _every_ virtual web site on the machine? ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the What's New PDF now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:287885 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF8 Debugging
On Thursday 06 Sep 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the debugging output there's a little missing 'topdoc.gif' image, which is being referenced in a location within /CFIDE. Surely CF8 doesn't expect you to map CFIDE as a virtual directory in the HTTP server for _every_ virtual web site on the machine? If you want it to show up, yes. Do you really care if a graphic is missing in the debug output though ? -- Tom Chiverton Helping to continually conquer open-source architectures on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the What's New PDF now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:287892 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF8 Debugging
- Original Message - From: Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 3:23 AM Subject: Re: CF8 Debugging On Thursday 06 Sep 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the debugging output there's a little missing 'topdoc.gif' image, which is being referenced in a location within /CFIDE. Surely CF8 doesn't expect you to map CFIDE as a virtual directory in the HTTP server for _every_ virtual web site on the machine? If you want it to show up, yes. Do you really care if a graphic is missing in the debug output though ? No. It's trivial. But it seems to imply that either the developers of the server expected the CFIDE directory mapping to exist for all virtual sites or else they were oblivious to this happening. Why go to the trouble of designing a nicely formatted debug output page and then have it punctuated by a missing graphic? ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government. Find out how and where now http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finderproductID=1522loc=en_us Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:287894 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF8 Debugging
On Thursday 06 Sep 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want it to show up, yes. Do you really care if a graphic is missing in the debug output though ? No. It's trivial. But it seems to imply that either the developers of the server expected the CFIDE directory mapping to exist for all virtual sites They do, AFAIK. See also the Flash/AJAX form assets. That's how CF sets itself up. As always, securing your server is extra work. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to ambassadorially harness frictionless channels on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:287896 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: CF8 Debugging
No. It's trivial. But it seems to imply that either the developers of the server expected the CFIDE directory mapping to exist for all virtual sites or else they were oblivious to this happening. Why go to the trouble of designing a nicely formatted debug output page and then have it punctuated by a missing graphic? Since CF, by default, has many dependencies that rely on the existence of a /CFIDE URL, I submit that they expected you'd have that directory on a properly configured server. But putting that aside, where else could they put it? It has to go somewhere - can you suggest a better location? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:287900 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF8 Debugging
I would assume they did that since they added the individual logins to the admin and assumed you would want a cfide directory for each site. They probably had sites hosts in mind when they did that. If it is real important to have that graphic and you don;t want a cfide mapping in each virtual directory, you could always dupe the directory structure and copy the graphic to each virtual directory. Eric On 9/6/07, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. It's trivial. But it seems to imply that either the developers of the server expected the CFIDE directory mapping to exist for all virtual sites or else they were oblivious to this happening. Why go to the trouble of designing a nicely formatted debug output page and then have it punctuated by a missing graphic? Since CF, by default, has many dependencies that rely on the existence of a /CFIDE URL, I submit that they expected you'd have that directory on a properly configured server. But putting that aside, where else could they put it? It has to go somewhere - can you suggest a better location? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid-72catid=648 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:287929 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF8 Debugging
- Original Message - From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 5:03 AM Subject: RE: CF8 Debugging No. It's trivial. But it seems to imply that either the developers of the server expected the CFIDE directory mapping to exist for all virtual sites or else they were oblivious to this happening. Why go to the trouble of designing a nicely formatted debug output page and then have it punctuated by a missing graphic? Since CF, by default, has many dependencies that rely on the existence of a /CFIDE URL, I submit that they expected you'd have that directory on a properly configured server. But putting that aside, where else could they put it? It has to go somewhere - can you suggest a better location? The graphic? Who knows. I'm not worried about the graphic. What other functionality relies on the CFIDE mapping? It it necessary for things like CFFORM? When I first set up the server I had several virtual IIS sites. Then I deleted those sites and programmatically created all the necessary production sites by a script. I notice in the wsconfig.log file that when CF was installed it created both the /CFIDE and /cfdocs virtual directories for every web site that was on the server at the time. So I guess it's expected. Which also begs the question - is there some functionality that relies on the /cfdocs mapping? I always thought that from a security standpoint it was undesirable to have cfdocs installed, so having the installer create this mapping on _every_ site seems like an odd move. The thing about needing /CFIDE that strikes me a odd is that it contains the CF Administrator application, so that the Administrator becomes accessible from every web site on the server. Yes, it's up to the system administrator to make sure the CF Administrator is properly secured, but this still seems rather a lax approach. The CF Administrator isn't be needed on every site. ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:287923 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
