Re: CF8 Multi Server Config Help
> Dave, what would you recommend? > Clean up old mappings > Establish a naming > convention for the new stuff to avoid conflicts > when > complete, clean house and remove old mappings All of those sound good. Any documentation process you can use going forward to keep track of settings would probably be helpful. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:319895 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF8 Multi Server Config Help
Dave, what would you recommend? Clean up old mappings > Establish a naming convention for the new stuff to avoid conflicts > when complete, clean house and remove old mappings Thanks! On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Dave Watts wrote: > > > My understanding the one of the benefits of multi instance is that I can > > have a totally fresh CF8 instance with out any of the settings, db's or > > mappings that may have been created previously. I want separate to avoid > > any problems. Is that a BAD idea? Should we just develop on the existing > > server and create any new mappings, db's as necessary (it's quite > cluttered > > as it currently stands, multiple db's - Access, MySQL, MSSQL) > > It's not bad to use multiple instances, but there is a resource cost > incurred by doing so. It's unlikely that you'll have a conflict > between the datasources within a single server instance, but more > likely that you might have a conflict between mappings, I guess. That > said, it's a lot of work to switch your server configuration just to > get a "clean slate" for a single application. > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > > Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized > instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, > Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. > Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:318879 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF8 Multi Server Config Help
> My understanding the one of the benefits of multi instance is that I can > have a totally fresh CF8 instance with out any of the settings, db's or > mappings that may have been created previously. I want separate to avoid > any problems. Is that a BAD idea? Should we just develop on the existing > server and create any new mappings, db's as necessary (it's quite cluttered > as it currently stands, multiple db's - Access, MySQL, MSSQL) It's not bad to use multiple instances, but there is a resource cost incurred by doing so. It's unlikely that you'll have a conflict between the datasources within a single server instance, but more likely that you might have a conflict between mappings, I guess. That said, it's a lot of work to switch your server configuration just to get a "clean slate" for a single application. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:318874 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF8 Multi Server Config Help
Hi Dave. thanks for responding.. No development would be on a local server. a "preview" site would be on a live server - which is the same server as our current site. My understanding the one of the benefits of multi instance is that I can have a totally fresh CF8 instance with out any of the settings, db's or mappings that may have been created previously. I want separate to avoid any problems. Is that a BAD idea? Should we just develop on the existing server and create any new mappings, db's as necessary (it's quite cluttered as it currently stands, multiple db's - Access, MySQL, MSSQL) On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Dave Watts wrote: > > > On another point, yet related. Our live server was NOT installed with > the > > Multi Instance features.. > > > > Will this REQUIRE a fill reinstall? > > Yes, there's no upgrade path from single-instance to multi-instance. > > > What are the ramifications of doing this? > > You will need to preserve your existing settings then recreate or > restore those settings after the reinstall. You can do this a variety > of ways. For example, you can use CAR files for this. > > > SHOULD I even worry about the ability to run a totally new server > instance > > for a brand new version of our site? (Ground up development) > > Are you developing on your production server? Are you expecting > resource problems with the current version, or do you expect problems > with the new version? > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > > Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized > instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, > Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. > Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:318863 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF8 Multi Server Config Help
> On another point, yet related. Our live server was NOT installed with the > Multi Instance features.. > > Will this REQUIRE a fill reinstall? Yes, there's no upgrade path from single-instance to multi-instance. > What are the ramifications of doing this? You will need to preserve your existing settings then recreate or restore those settings after the reinstall. You can do this a variety of ways. For example, you can use CAR files for this. > SHOULD I even worry about the ability to run a totally new server instance > for a brand new version of our site? (Ground up development) Are you developing on your production server? Are you expecting resource problems with the current version, or do you expect problems with the new version? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:318857 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF8 Multi Server Config Help
Joel, I would suggest to anyone to use the multi-server install. Each cf server instance has it's own jvm and RAM allocation, plus you truly separate your applications at that point (we run an instance for front-end site display and a separate instance for the Control Panel app to configure sites). That being said, you might not want a separate instance for every site, as you can quickly eat system resources as well. The default cfusion instance is only used for it's Enterprise Manager to create new instances, otherwise we turn it off by default. The step you've probably missed is in setting up the Jrun connector. Once your new instance is running, you need to setup a webserver connector, connecting a site to a specific JRun instance. You do this with the wsconfig utility: c:\Jrun4\bin\wsconfig.exe This is a java based utility, that will show you all of the current connectors, and allow you to add or remove connectors. It is very easy to use with IIS. Steve "Cutter" Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer Co-Author of "Learning Ext JS" http://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js/book _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Joel Polsky wrote: > Thanks I will look at that. Though I use IIS-6 locally and Windows Server > 2003 on the live site. > > On another point, yet related. Our live server was NOT installed with the > Multi Instance features.. > > Will this REQUIRE a fill reinstall? > What are the ramifications of doing this? > SHOULD I even worry about the ability to run a totally new server instance > for a brand new version of our site? (Ground up development) > > Thanks > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Cutter (CFRelated) < > cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com> wrote: > >> You are confusing your Coldfusion configuration with your web server >> configuration. They are two entirely separate things. See if this series >> of posts can help you out: >> >> >> http://blog.cutterscrossing.com/index.cfm/2007/7/23/Local-Development-Setup-Pt-1-Apache-and-ColdFusion-7-or-8 >> >> Steve "Cutter" Blades >> Adobe Certified Professional >> Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer >> >> Co-Author of "Learning Ext JS" >> http://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js/book >> _ >> http://blog.cutterscrossing.com >> >> Joel Polsky wrote: >>> On my local machine, I've installed CF8 with the Multi-Server features. >>> >>> I'm trying to set up a 2nd server that will serve up a brand new site, >> new mappings, new DB references etc.. I want to start clean (but still need >> to keep and maintain my current site etc.) >>> I have the old site in c: C:\inetpub\wwwroot\SITENAME >>> >>> When I enable the 2nd server, the root site folder seems to be: >> C:\JRun4\servers\NEWSITE\cfusion.ear\cfusion.war >>> I'd like it to be: C:\inetpub\wwwroot\NEWSITENAME >>> >>> HOW can I change this? I found a reference to change the >> web-inf/jrun-web.xml file but the code the reference mentions to change is >> not in the file. >>> There must be an easier way! >>> >>> Thanks >>> Joel >>> >>> >> > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:318855 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF8 Multi Server Config Help
Thanks I will look at that. Though I use IIS-6 locally and Windows Server 2003 on the live site. On another point, yet related. Our live server was NOT installed with the Multi Instance features.. Will this REQUIRE a fill reinstall? What are the ramifications of doing this? SHOULD I even worry about the ability to run a totally new server instance for a brand new version of our site? (Ground up development) Thanks On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Cutter (CFRelated) < cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com> wrote: > > You are confusing your Coldfusion configuration with your web server > configuration. They are two entirely separate things. See if this series > of posts can help you out: > > > http://blog.cutterscrossing.com/index.cfm/2007/7/23/Local-Development-Setup-Pt-1-Apache-and-ColdFusion-7-or-8 > > Steve "Cutter" Blades > Adobe Certified Professional > Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer > > Co-Author of "Learning Ext JS" > http://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js/book > _ > http://blog.cutterscrossing.com > > Joel Polsky wrote: > > On my local machine, I've installed CF8 with the Multi-Server features. > > > > I'm trying to set up a 2nd server that will serve up a brand new site, > new mappings, new DB references etc.. I want to start clean (but still need > to keep and maintain my current site etc.) > > > > I have the old site in c: C:\inetpub\wwwroot\SITENAME > > > > When I enable the 2nd server, the root site folder seems to be: > C:\JRun4\servers\NEWSITE\cfusion.ear\cfusion.war > > > > I'd like it to be: C:\inetpub\wwwroot\NEWSITENAME > > > > HOW can I change this? I found a reference to change the > web-inf/jrun-web.xml file but the code the reference mentions to change is > not in the file. > > > > There must be an easier way! > > > > Thanks > > Joel > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:318851 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF8 Multi Server Config Help
You are confusing your Coldfusion configuration with your web server configuration. They are two entirely separate things. See if this series of posts can help you out: http://blog.cutterscrossing.com/index.cfm/2007/7/23/Local-Development-Setup-Pt-1-Apache-and-ColdFusion-7-or-8 Steve "Cutter" Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer Co-Author of "Learning Ext JS" http://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js/book _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Joel Polsky wrote: > On my local machine, I've installed CF8 with the Multi-Server features. > > I'm trying to set up a 2nd server that will serve up a brand new site, new > mappings, new DB references etc.. I want to start clean (but still need to > keep and maintain my current site etc.) > > I have the old site in c: C:\inetpub\wwwroot\SITENAME > > When I enable the 2nd server, the root site folder seems to be: > C:\JRun4\servers\NEWSITE\cfusion.ear\cfusion.war > > I'd like it to be: C:\inetpub\wwwroot\NEWSITENAME > > HOW can I change this? I found a reference to change the > web-inf/jrun-web.xml file but the code the reference mentions to change is > not in the file. > > There must be an easier way! > > Thanks > Joel > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:318848 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
CF8 Multi Server Config Help
On my local machine, I've installed CF8 with the Multi-Server features. I'm trying to set up a 2nd server that will serve up a brand new site, new mappings, new DB references etc.. I want to start clean (but still need to keep and maintain my current site etc.) I have the old site in c: C:\inetpub\wwwroot\SITENAME When I enable the 2nd server, the root site folder seems to be: C:\JRun4\servers\NEWSITE\cfusion.ear\cfusion.war I'd like it to be: C:\inetpub\wwwroot\NEWSITENAME HOW can I change this? I found a reference to change the web-inf/jrun-web.xml file but the code the reference mentions to change is not in the file. There must be an easier way! Thanks Joel ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:318836 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
