Re: CFMail Undelivr Folder
On 10/26/05, Dave Ashworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > so, if the mail is sent from an account on a server I don't have access to, > would it be impossible for me to report on undelivered mail, for whatever > reason that it might be undeliveable Since you need an account username and password for cfpop to be able to do its job, the answer would be yes assuming that info is unavailable. Of the previous people who responded on this list, Paul Vernon sells an inexpensive and very much more robust CFPOP replacement (you'll know why you need it if you get really serious about large-scale CFPOP usage). Howie Hamlin sells a replacement mail server that can be configured to provide bounce information to ColdFusion. You won't need both solutions, depending on what you wind up doing, but one or the other will fix you up. -- --mattRobertson-- Janitor, MSB Web Systems mysecretbase.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222332 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFMail Undelivr Folder
Ok, thanks for that so far so, if the mail is sent from an account on a server I don't have access to, would it be impossible for me to report on undelivered mail, for whatever reason that it might be undeliveable well that's the impression I get from CFPOP anyway Dave On 10/26/05, Paul Vernon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mails only end up in the Undelivr folder if it is so malformed that it > cannot be validated in the first place OR your mail server is down. > Bounces > will appear in the mailbox of the account set in the reply headers of the > mail you send. You should use CFPOP or equivalent to process the bounce > messages. > > Paul > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222326 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFMail Undelivr Folder
The problem with using the CF Undelivr folder is that the folder will contain mails that were not delivered to *your* email server. If you want to track mails that were not delivered to the final destination then you will need to either set a bounce-back address and monitor the bounces from your email server or implement an alternative mail system that provides delivery notifications. Regards, Howie --- On Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:28 AM, Dave Ashworth scribed: --- > > Hi > > I am developing a mail campaign application that amongst the stats on > mail-outs shows the number of undeliveable mails (or at least I'm > hoping it > will) > > To try and fill the C:\CFusionMX\Mail\Undelivr with some files in > order to > begin coding, I added some addresses to the mailing list that I knew > to be > incorrect and sent out the mail. > > For example, I sent on to [EMAIL PROTECTED], to which I got a > message through to [EMAIL PROTECTED] saying user unknown from our > mailserver, as I always do as I administer the mail server. But there > was no > record of this in the undeliverable folder. I then altered the > address to > read .oc.uk, but still nothing in the undeliverable folder. > > So, my question is, under what circumstances is the undeliverable > folder > populated? Does it take a while for files to appear there whilst email > messages are attempted to be delivered? > > I thought it may have something to do with internal dev servers and > sending > the mail through our external mail server, but I've tested remotely > and > still nothing in the folder! > > Any advice welcome > > Thanks > Dave > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222322 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFMail Undelivr Folder
Mails only end up in the Undelivr folder if it is so malformed that it cannot be validated in the first place OR your mail server is down. Bounces will appear in the mailbox of the account set in the reply headers of the mail you send. You should use CFPOP or equivalent to process the bounce messages. Paul ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222315 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFMail Undelivr Folder
The Undelivr folder is meant for garbled up and mangled messages, or those where a communication failure occurred. It is not meant for "mailbox does not exist at destination" messages, where no communication or malformed messages occurred. -Original Message- From: Dave Ashworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 09:29 To: CF-Talk Subject: CFMail Undelivr Folder Hi I am developing a mail campaign application that amongst the stats on mail-outs shows the number of undeliveable mails (or at least I'm hoping it will) To try and fill the C:\CFusionMX\Mail\Undelivr with some files in order to begin coding, I added some addresses to the mailing list that I knew to be incorrect and sent out the mail. For example, I sent on to [EMAIL PROTECTED], to which I got a message through to [EMAIL PROTECTED] saying user unknown from our mailserver, as I always do as I administer the mail server. But there was no record of this in the undeliverable folder. I then altered the address to read .oc.uk, but still nothing in the undeliverable folder. So, my question is, under what circumstances is the undeliverable folder populated? Does it take a while for files to appear there whilst email messages are attempted to be delivered? I thought it may have something to do with internal dev servers and sending the mail through our external mail server, but I've tested remotely and still nothing in the folder! Any advice welcome Thanks Dave ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222314 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
CFMail Undelivr Folder
Hi I am developing a mail campaign application that amongst the stats on mail-outs shows the number of undeliveable mails (or at least I'm hoping it will) To try and fill the C:\CFusionMX\Mail\Undelivr with some files in order to begin coding, I added some addresses to the mailing list that I knew to be incorrect and sent out the mail. For example, I sent on to [EMAIL PROTECTED], to which I got a message through to [EMAIL PROTECTED] saying user unknown from our mailserver, as I always do as I administer the mail server. But there was no record of this in the undeliverable folder. I then altered the address to read .oc.uk, but still nothing in the undeliverable folder. So, my question is, under what circumstances is the undeliverable folder populated? Does it take a while for files to appear there whilst email messages are attempted to be delivered? I thought it may have something to do with internal dev servers and sending the mail through our external mail server, but I've tested remotely and still nothing in the folder! Any advice welcome Thanks Dave ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:222309 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
