RE: Cluster Verity Maintenance
> As it turns out, I think the problem is resolved. When I > CFSCHEDULE'd overnight tasks on each of the nodes yesterday, > I was sure it wouldn't work because the CF Admin on the > virtual server only recognized the tasks on one of the nodes. > But the log I created to track task execution says otherwise. > So I tested the collections this morning on each node by > using the IP/directory rather than the domain name and > entering a unique search criteria from one of yesterday's > entries. Worked great, so I guess CFSCHEDULE is the ticket > for keeping the collections in sync afterall. I'm glad that this worked! However, you may still want to look into using K2, even if you run it on each machine, as it'll generally perform much better than the regular Verity VDK search. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 ~| Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=17 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:182643 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Cluster Verity Maintenance
>If the server running K2 failed, you wouldn't have any >redundancy. Thanks again, Dave. As it turns out, I think the problem is resolved. When I CFSCHEDULE'd overnight tasks on each of the nodes yesterday, I was sure it wouldn't work because the CF Admin on the virtual server only recognized the tasks on one of the nodes. But the log I created to track task execution says otherwise. So I tested the collections this morning on each node by using the IP/directory rather than the domain name and entering a unique search criteria from one of yesterday's entries. Worked great, so I guess CFSCHEDULE is the ticket for keeping the collections in sync afterall. ~| Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=35 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:182641 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Cluster Verity Maintenance
> Dave, if I need a separate server for the Verity collection, > doesn't that undermine my reasons for using a clustered > server environment in the first place? I mean, if that Verity > server failed, I have no failover redundancy. I haven't read > the K2 documentation yet; am I unclear about the server > configuration you're recommending? You're correct. If the server running K2 failed, you wouldn't have any redundancy. However, that may not be an issue for several reasons. One is that the K2 server isn't as likely to fail as a web/application server. Another is that search functionality may not be mission-critical. Finally, even if it does fail, you won't have the same issues that you would if a web user's session failed and you lost session-specific data. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 ~| Protect your mail server with built in anti-virus protection. It's not only good for you, it's good for everybody. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=39 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:182638 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Cluster Verity Maintenance
>Have you considered running Verity on a single server using K2? Dave, if I need a separate server for the Verity collection, doesn't that undermine my reasons for using a clustered server environment in the first place? I mean, if that Verity server failed, I have no failover redundancy. I haven't read the K2 documentation yet; am I unclear about the server configuration you're recommending? ~| Sams Teach Yourself Regular Expressions in 10 Minutes by Ben Forta http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=40 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:182634 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Cluster Verity Maintenance
dina, this a physical HW cluster or do you have clustered CF servers on one box? Either way, thought about a central drive or share amongst them to store the collection? This way all ur CF instances point to this one collection. Doug On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:09:16 -0400, Dina Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a few intranet applications hosted in a clustered server > environment -- IIS with CF running on top of JRun. The applications use > Verity collections that need to be maintained periodically. > > What's the best approach to doing this in a clustered environment so > that all nodes are updated simultaneously? > > I've tried CFSCHEDULE, but the virtual server pointing to the nodes only reflects > the scheduled tasks from one of the nodes. I've also tried > doing this programmatically but that didn't work either. > > Any suggestions from those of you more accustomed to working in a > clustered server environment would sure be appreciated. > > Thanks much, > ~Dina > > ~| Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=34 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:182621 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Cluster Verity Maintenance
Thanks, Dave. I'll look into that. I had never used Verity prior to this job and simply followed the previous developer's lead...but then, he wasn't running apps on a cluster. Your help is much appreciated.! ~Dina - Original Message - From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:47 AM Subject: RE: Cluster Verity Maintenance > > I have a few intranet applications hosted in a clustered > > server environment -- IIS with CF running on top of JRun. The > > applications use Verity collections that need to be > > maintained periodically. > > > > What's the best approach to doing this in a clustered > > environment so that all nodes are updated simultaneously? > > > > I've tried CFSCHEDULE, but the virtual server pointing to the > > nodes only reflects the scheduled tasks from one of the > > nodes. I've also tried doing this programmatically but that > > didn't work either. > > > > Any suggestions from those of you more accustomed to working > > in a clustered server environment would sure be appreciated. > > Have you considered running Verity on a single server using K2? You'd only > need one set of collections in this case, and you could limit indexing tasks > to that one server. > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > phone: 202-797-5496 > fax: 202-797-5444 > > > ~| Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=34 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:182617 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Cluster Verity Maintenance
> I have a few intranet applications hosted in a clustered > server environment -- IIS with CF running on top of JRun. The > applications use Verity collections that need to be > maintained periodically. > > What's the best approach to doing this in a clustered > environment so that all nodes are updated simultaneously? > > I've tried CFSCHEDULE, but the virtual server pointing to the > nodes only reflects the scheduled tasks from one of the > nodes. I've also tried doing this programmatically but that > didn't work either. > > Any suggestions from those of you more accustomed to working > in a clustered server environment would sure be appreciated. Have you considered running Verity on a single server using K2? You'd only need one set of collections in this case, and you could limit indexing tasks to that one server. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 ~| Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=35 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:182615 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Cluster Verity Maintenance
I have a few intranet applications hosted in a clustered server environment -- IIS with CF running on top of JRun. The applications use Verity collections that need to be maintained periodically. What's the best approach to doing this in a clustered environment so that all nodes are updated simultaneously? I've tried CFSCHEDULE, but the virtual server pointing to the nodes only reflects the scheduled tasks from one of the nodes. I've also tried doing this programmatically but that didn't work either. Any suggestions from those of you more accustomed to working in a clustered server environment would sure be appreciated. Thanks much, ~Dina ~| Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=37 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:182611 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
