Re: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

2005-05-05 Thread Ken Ferguson
Check out X-cart www.x-cart.com

It's a PHP/MySQL app. I've used this package several times and for less 
than $200 it's got everything you could need and, in my opinion, could 
be priced much higher. Let me know if you have questions about X-Cart -- 
features, requirements...

--Ferg

Burns, John D wrote:

I'm looking for some recommendations for an Ecommerce store replacement.  
Currently, we have a customer that uses MivaMerchant, but it pretty much sucks 
and they're having all kinds of problems.  I, personally, would prefer a CF 
store with the ability for me to modify code and/or build interfaces as 
needed.  However, the server supports .NET and PHP as well.  The requirements 
for the software is that is support multiple stores and interface with 
Authorize.net and Paypal for payments.  Any suggestions for or against any 
products would be appreciated.
 
John Burns




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Re: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

2005-05-05 Thread Cutter (CF-Talk)
The online boutique at seacrets.com is a customized cfwebstore. Yes, the 
FB3 code took me a while to figure (and to think I'm trying to learn 
mach-ii now;), but I was able to put together a custom layout in a 
fairly short period of time. I've seen several code updates come out in 
the few months I've had it, including one major upgrade, so Mary Jo 
seems to be constantly working to improve the code and integrate 
suggested features. A few quirks here and there in my dev process, like 
no built in MySQL support, but the dev forum for the product is pretty 
responsive so I cleared this hurdle with little difficulty. I'd say it's 
worth the price...

Cutter

Ray Champagne wrote:

Will do!

Connie DeCinko wrote:
  

Let us know when you get your site up and running with it.  The demo store
on the web site is confusing as it shows too many layout options at once.
I'm curious to see it running with a real store.
 

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From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

Well, I haven't been using it that long...as in I just started on it 
this week.  It is written using FuseBox, and it seems to be pretty well 
written if you ask me.  But, so far, I am impressed with both the price 
and the functionality.










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RE: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

2005-05-05 Thread Connie DeCinko
I thing I hate, not about CFWebStore, but about Fusebox, is the URLs that it
forces you to use.  Is there no way to hide that complexity and use simple
URLs?
 

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From: Cutter (CF-Talk) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 5:13 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

The online boutique at seacrets.com is a customized cfwebstore. Yes, the 
FB3 code took me a while to figure (and to think I'm trying to learn 
mach-ii now;), but I was able to put together a custom layout in a 
fairly short period of time. I've seen several code updates come out in 
the few months I've had it, including one major upgrade, so Mary Jo 
seems to be constantly working to improve the code and integrate 
suggested features. A few quirks here and there in my dev process, like 
no built in MySQL support, but the dev forum for the product is pretty 
responsive so I cleared this hurdle with little difficulty. I'd say it's 
worth the price...

Cutter




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Re: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

2005-05-05 Thread Ray Champagne
What's wrong with using SES URL's?  They aren't as simple, but if they 
are indexed by the SE's, then who cares?

And Connie, I think you just opened up Pandora's box.  Let the Fusebox 
debates begin!  :)

Ray

Connie DeCinko wrote:
 I thing I hate, not about CFWebStore, but about Fusebox, is the URLs that it
 forces you to use.  Is there no way to hide that complexity and use simple
 URLs?
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Cutter (CF-Talk) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 5:13 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement
 
 The online boutique at seacrets.com is a customized cfwebstore. Yes, the 
 FB3 code took me a while to figure (and to think I'm trying to learn 
 mach-ii now;), but I was able to put together a custom layout in a 
 fairly short period of time. I've seen several code updates come out in 
 the few months I've had it, including one major upgrade, so Mary Jo 
 seems to be constantly working to improve the code and integrate 
 suggested features. A few quirks here and there in my dev process, like 
 no built in MySQL support, but the dev forum for the product is pretty 
 responsive so I cleared this hurdle with little difficulty. I'd say it's 
 worth the price...
 
 Cutter
 
 
 
 
 

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RE: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

2005-05-05 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
I thing I hate, not about CFWebStore, but about Fusebox, is the URLs that it
forces you to use.  Is there no way to hide that complexity and use simple
URLs?

Guess I might as weigh in on this, since it's my product we are discussing! I 
wasn't a huge Fusebox fan before, but I have to admit, it really has grown on 
me as I've used it these last couple years. There are some real benefits to 
using it, particularly for a 3rd-party application like CFWebstore. Not the 
least of which is using a methodology that is fairly well known and is well 
worth learning even if you've not used it before. 

Actually, one of the nicest things about Fusebox is that it hides the 
complexity of your directory structure. I can break the application structure 
down into many subdirectories and organize it exactly how I want, and yet the 
customer never goes past the top directory. That to me is far more useful than 
worrying about the URL, which few if any regular users would even look at. In 
some ways, it makes the URL a lot *less* complicated, since they won't ever see 
a big long file path. It makes doing layouts *far* easier than my older 
versions, where you had to worry about paths to different files and images if 
you were down in the subdirectories. 

Now there *are* ways to use simpler URLs, if that really is of importance to 
you. I actually include a little shortcut page for sending out links to 
product pages so you don't have to use the longer, more complex FB URL. It 
takes a link that looks like go.cfm?id=2 and redirects the user to the 
cooresponding product page. You could easily recode this to actually include 
the product page directly and you could do something similar for category and 
other store pages if desired. But again, I don't know that there's really much 
benefit to this. 

--
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http://www.cfwebstore.com 

Author of CFWebstore, 
ColdFusion E-commerce software


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RE: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

2005-05-05 Thread Connie DeCinko
That's my main concern, the guy who emails a page and says, go buy this, or
check this out!  Otherwise, no one looks at the URL other than to type in
the location of your home page.  Even via search engine, it could be 800
characters long but who cares if you just click a link to it.


-Original Message-
From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 10:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

I thing I hate, not about CFWebStore, but about Fusebox, is the URLs that
it
forces you to use.  Is there no way to hide that complexity and use simple
URLs?

Now there *are* ways to use simpler URLs, if that really is of importance to
you. I actually include a little shortcut page for sending out links to
product pages so you don't have to use the longer, more complex FB URL. It
takes a link that looks like go.cfm?id=2 and redirects the user to the
cooresponding product page. You could easily recode this to actually include
the product page directly and you could do something similar for category
and other store pages if desired. But again, I don't know that there's
really much benefit to this. 

--
Mary Jo Sminkey
http://www.cfwebstore.com 

Author of CFWebstore, 
ColdFusion E-commerce software




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Re: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

2005-05-05 Thread James Edmunds
I have had good success with Cartweaver:

http://cartweaver.com/

I began using it originally because it was all CF, with all the code being 
very well documented, which meant that I could customize it easily.

I have it in use on two web sites now, in neither case out of the box, but 
rather integrated into sites for which e-commerce is only one portion of 
what goes on. What was nice was how easy it was to plunk in the 
functionality I needed by using Cartweaver.

The mods I have made were easy to figure out, and the support newsgroup is 
very helpful.

HTH,

James Edmunds
New Iberia, LA

On 5/4/05, Burns, John D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I'm looking for some recommendations for an Ecommerce store replacement. 
 Currently, we have a customer that uses MivaMerchant, but it pretty much 
 sucks and they're having all kinds of problems. I, personally, would prefer 
 a CF store with the ability for me to modify code and/or build interfaces as 
 needed. However, the server supports .NET and PHP as well. The requirements 
 for the software is that is support multiple stores and interface with 
 Authorize.net http://Authorize.net and Paypal for payments. Any 
 suggestions for or against any products would be appreciated.
 
 John Burns
 
 

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RE: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

2005-05-05 Thread Burns, John D
That's not too big of a deal.  Just make a redirect page for mailouts
like that. www.mydomain.com/redirect.cfm?productID=104 


John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer
 

-Original Message-
From: Connie DeCinko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 1:39 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

That's my main concern, the guy who emails a page and says, go buy this,
or check this out!  Otherwise, no one looks at the URL other than to
type in the location of your home page.  Even via search engine, it
could be 800 characters long but who cares if you just click a link to
it.


-Original Message-
From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 10:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

I thing I hate, not about CFWebStore, but about Fusebox, is the URLs 
that
it
forces you to use.  Is there no way to hide that complexity and use 
simple URLs?

Now there *are* ways to use simpler URLs, if that really is of
importance to you. I actually include a little shortcut page for
sending out links to product pages so you don't have to use the longer,
more complex FB URL. It takes a link that looks like go.cfm?id=2 and
redirects the user to the cooresponding product page. You could easily
recode this to actually include the product page directly and you could
do something similar for category and other store pages if desired. But
again, I don't know that there's really much benefit to this. 

--
Mary Jo Sminkey
http://www.cfwebstore.com 

Author of CFWebstore,
ColdFusion E-commerce software






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RE: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

2005-05-05 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
That's my main concern, the guy who emails a page and says, go buy this, or
check this out!  Otherwise, no one looks at the URL other than to type in
the location of your home page. 

Ah, well in that case, I do have Tell a Friend email function that is used to 
send a referral link to someone. It's currently included for site articles 
(features) but would be easy to do for product or category pages as well, and 
you could use the shortcut format for those if you wanted. There's definitely 
ways to deal with things like this, and still not give up the advantages of 
Fusebox.


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RE: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

2005-05-05 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
That's not too big of a deal.  Just make a redirect page for mailouts
like that. www.mydomain.com/redirect.cfm?productID=104 


Yes, exactly, that's what I was saying. You can see this on my demo site, 

http://www.cfwebstore.com/cfwebstorefb/go.cfm?id=8

will redirect you to:

http://www.cfwebstore.com/cfwebstorefb/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.displayproduct_id=8


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Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

2005-05-04 Thread Burns, John D
I'm looking for some recommendations for an Ecommerce store replacement.  
Currently, we have a customer that uses MivaMerchant, but it pretty much sucks 
and they're having all kinds of problems.  I, personally, would prefer a CF 
store with the ability for me to modify code and/or build interfaces as needed. 
 However, the server supports .NET and PHP as well.  The requirements for the 
software is that is support multiple stores and interface with Authorize.net 
and Paypal for payments.  Any suggestions for or against any products would be 
appreciated.
 
John Burns


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Re: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

2005-05-04 Thread Ray Champagne
Time for me to plug CFWebstore.

http://www.cfwebstore.com

Someone suggested it for me, and so far, I'm lovin' it!

Burns, John D wrote:
 I'm looking for some recommendations for an Ecommerce store replacement.  
 Currently, we have a customer that uses MivaMerchant, but it pretty much 
 sucks and they're having all kinds of problems.  I, personally, would prefer 
 a CF store with the ability for me to modify code and/or build interfaces as 
 needed.  However, the server supports .NET and PHP as well.  The requirements 
 for the software is that is support multiple stores and interface with 
 Authorize.net and Paypal for payments.  Any suggestions for or against any 
 products would be appreciated.
  
 John Burns
 
 
 

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Re: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

2005-05-04 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
John, I've recently released a commercial PayPal integration kit for CFMX 
applications...

Check it out at http://www.web-relevant.com/PayPalMX

As far as an Ecommerce store, you really can't go wrong with CartWeaver:

http://www.cartweaver.com/

Laterz,
J

On 5/4/05, Burns, John D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I'm looking for some recommendations for an Ecommerce store replacement. 
 Currently, we have a customer that uses MivaMerchant, but it pretty much 
 sucks and they're having all kinds of problems. I, personally, would prefer 
 a CF store with the ability for me to modify code and/or build interfaces as 
 needed. However, the server supports .NET and PHP as well. The requirements 
 for the software is that is support multiple stores and interface with 
 Authorize.net http://Authorize.net and Paypal for payments. Any 
 suggestions for or against any products would be appreciated.
 
 John Burns



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RE: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

2005-05-04 Thread Connie DeCinko
How long have you been using it?  I started back with version 3, which was
pretty sloppy code.  I hear the later version is much better, although uses
Fusebox.  I've got too much custom code in mine to upgrade.  Someday I plan
to rebuild from scratch.
 

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Time for me to plug CFWebstore.

http://www.cfwebstore.com

Someone suggested it for me, and so far, I'm lovin' it!




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Re: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

2005-05-04 Thread Ray Champagne
Well, I haven't been using it that long...as in I just started on it 
this week.  It is written using FuseBox, and it seems to be pretty well 
written if you ask me.  But, so far, I am impressed with both the price 
and the functionality.

Connie DeCinko wrote:
 How long have you been using it?  I started back with version 3, which was
 pretty sloppy code.  I hear the later version is much better, although uses
 Fusebox.  I've got too much custom code in mine to upgrade.  Someday I plan
 to rebuild from scratch.
  
 
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 From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:15 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement
 
 Time for me to plug CFWebstore.
 
 http://www.cfwebstore.com
 
 Someone suggested it for me, and so far, I'm lovin' it!
 
 
 
 
 

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RE: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

2005-05-04 Thread Connie DeCinko
Not very impressed.  Layout of items is poor.  Admin screens not easy to
view.  Needs work to make it usable.
 

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Subject: Re: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

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RE: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

2005-05-04 Thread Connie DeCinko
Let us know when you get your site up and running with it.  The demo store
on the web site is confusing as it shows too many layout options at once.
I'm curious to see it running with a real store.
 

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From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:28 PM
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Subject: Re: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

Well, I haven't been using it that long...as in I just started on it 
this week.  It is written using FuseBox, and it seems to be pretty well 
written if you ask me.  But, so far, I am impressed with both the price 
and the functionality.




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Re: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement

2005-05-04 Thread Ray Champagne
Will do!

Connie DeCinko wrote:
 Let us know when you get your site up and running with it.  The demo store
 on the web site is confusing as it shows too many layout options at once.
 I'm curious to see it running with a real store.
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:28 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Good Miva Merchant Store replacement
 
 Well, I haven't been using it that long...as in I just started on it 
 this week.  It is written using FuseBox, and it seems to be pretty well 
 written if you ask me.  But, so far, I am impressed with both the price 
 and the functionality.
 
 
 
 
 

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