Re: Hardware load balancers (lower-end)
Are the newer LD's 1U??? I know when I worked form my previous employer We were switching to radware because of some issues with the LD. Not to mention they were like 4U each :) Eric On 4/5/07, John Paul Ashenfelter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have to say it makes me happy to see so many people suggest Apache > (even on Windows!) and VMWare as solutions -- both tools I've long > been involved with. > > But I'm really looking for a 1u or smaller (eg VIA form-factor or > Cisco PIX501-size) turnkey solution. I think that the used route on > ebay for Cisco LD is where we're headed but was hoping someone's had > experience with things like this > > http://www.kemptechnologies.com/load-balancer-1500.shtml > > or maybe some low-end serverironxl products. > > This gig isn't a roll-your-own ;) But thanks for the suggestions so far! > -- > John Paul Ashenfelter > CTO/Transitionpoint > (blog) http://www.ashenfelter.com > (email) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:274584 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Hardware load balancers (lower-end)
I have to say it makes me happy to see so many people suggest Apache (even on Windows!) and VMWare as solutions -- both tools I've long been involved with. But I'm really looking for a 1u or smaller (eg VIA form-factor or Cisco PIX501-size) turnkey solution. I think that the used route on ebay for Cisco LD is where we're headed but was hoping someone's had experience with things like this http://www.kemptechnologies.com/load-balancer-1500.shtml or maybe some low-end serverironxl products. This gig isn't a roll-your-own ;) But thanks for the suggestions so far! -- John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/Transitionpoint (blog) http://www.ashenfelter.com (email) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:274575 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Hardware load balancers (lower-end)
Isn't that what all these boxes are? Just some of them are not standard PC's are using customized versions of Linux... It looks like it's really easy to set things up with Apache 2.2... From docs: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_proxy.html ProxyPass /special-area http://special.example.com/ smax=5 max=10 ProxyPass / balancer://mycluster stickysession=jsessionid nofailover=On BalancerMember http://1.2.3.4:8009 BalancerMember http://1.2.3.5:8009 smax=10 # Less powerful server, don't send as many requests there BalancerMember http://1.2.3.6:8009 smax=1 loadfactor=20 So looks like it support sticky sessions, and different load methods... And the bonus is if you don't feel like setting up a linux server, you can just install Apache on windows (you can even do it in VMWare, and my guess is you're not even going to notice it, as it won't produce any load). I haven't tried it myself yet, we use a shared LB at HostMySite, but I'd be interested to know if anyone's set this up. Russ > -Original Message- > From: Eric Haskins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 7:58 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Hardware load balancers (lower-end) > > Radware!!! :) but $$$ > > Russ is onto something there with LVS. All a radware is, is a PC running > their version of linux > > > Eric > > > On 4/4/07, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I have used both Radware WSD and Cisco Content Services Switch. > > > > Both worked fine for me. Not *cheap* though. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 6:58 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Hardware load balancers (lower-end) > > > > Folks, > > > > I'd like to know what you're using for lower-end *hardware* load > > balancing for your ColdFusion apps. I've got an application to deal > > with that doesn't have a lot of network bandwidth but does have a lot > > of processor load, so I don't need a paired set of BIGIPs to manage it > > :) > > > > I'd prefer a packaged hardware solution that supports sticky sessions > > -- the app was not really designed for clustering. Something like an > > old Cisco LocalDirector off ebay is probably about the right speed! > > > > Details: CFMX7 *Standard*, servers are Windows 2003, Web edition. > > Using java sessions. Currently using Sonicwall and Cisco in the > > network infrastructure. > > > > Thoughts/recommendations? > > > > -- > > John Paul Ashenfelter > > CTO/Transitionpoint > > (blog) http://www.ashenfelter.com > > (email) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:274549 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Hardware load balancers (lower-end)
Radware!!! :) but $$$ Russ is onto something there with LVS. All a radware is, is a PC running their version of linux Eric On 4/4/07, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have used both Radware WSD and Cisco Content Services Switch. > > Both worked fine for me. Not *cheap* though. > > -Original Message- > From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 6:58 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Hardware load balancers (lower-end) > > Folks, > > I'd like to know what you're using for lower-end *hardware* load > balancing for your ColdFusion apps. I've got an application to deal > with that doesn't have a lot of network bandwidth but does have a lot > of processor load, so I don't need a paired set of BIGIPs to manage it > :) > > I'd prefer a packaged hardware solution that supports sticky sessions > -- the app was not really designed for clustering. Something like an > old Cisco LocalDirector off ebay is probably about the right speed! > > Details: CFMX7 *Standard*, servers are Windows 2003, Web edition. > Using java sessions. Currently using Sonicwall and Cisco in the > network infrastructure. > > Thoughts/recommendations? > > -- > John Paul Ashenfelter > CTO/Transitionpoint > (blog) http://www.ashenfelter.com > (email) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:274545 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Hardware load balancers (lower-end)
I have used both Radware WSD and Cisco Content Services Switch. Both worked fine for me. Not *cheap* though. -Original Message- From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 6:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Hardware load balancers (lower-end) Folks, I'd like to know what you're using for lower-end *hardware* load balancing for your ColdFusion apps. I've got an application to deal with that doesn't have a lot of network bandwidth but does have a lot of processor load, so I don't need a paired set of BIGIPs to manage it :) I'd prefer a packaged hardware solution that supports sticky sessions -- the app was not really designed for clustering. Something like an old Cisco LocalDirector off ebay is probably about the right speed! Details: CFMX7 *Standard*, servers are Windows 2003, Web edition. Using java sessions. Currently using Sonicwall and Cisco in the network infrastructure. Thoughts/recommendations? -- John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/Transitionpoint (blog) http://www.ashenfelter.com (email) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:274542 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Hardware load balancers (lower-end)
> I'd prefer a packaged hardware solution that supports sticky sessions > -- the app was not really designed for clustering. Something > like an old Cisco LocalDirector off ebay is probably about > the right speed! eBay and uBid are your friends here. I've had better success with uBid for computer hardware, myself. Some of the used Radware hardware solutions can be picked up pretty cheap. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:274536 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Hardware load balancers (lower-end)
I know you said hardware, but if you're not going to implement redundancy anyway, you might just want to use a software solution like Apache's mod_proxy_balancer or LVS. Can install it on top of Free VMWare Server, using CentOS and have a total cost of $0 (plus time required to implement. With LVS I believe you can even set up clusters, so should the primary machine hosting LVS go down, another one can pick up. Russ > -Original Message- > From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 9:58 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Hardware load balancers (lower-end) > > Folks, > > I'd like to know what you're using for lower-end *hardware* load > balancing for your ColdFusion apps. I've got an application to deal > with that doesn't have a lot of network bandwidth but does have a lot > of processor load, so I don't need a paired set of BIGIPs to manage it > :) > > I'd prefer a packaged hardware solution that supports sticky sessions > -- the app was not really designed for clustering. Something like an > old Cisco LocalDirector off ebay is probably about the right speed! > > Details: CFMX7 *Standard*, servers are Windows 2003, Web edition. > Using java sessions. Currently using Sonicwall and Cisco in the > network infrastructure. > > Thoughts/recommendations? > > -- > John Paul Ashenfelter > CTO/Transitionpoint > (blog) http://www.ashenfelter.com > (email) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:274533 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Hardware load balancers (lower-end)
Seems like you answered your own post :-) "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: John Paul Ashenfelter To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed Apr 04 14:57:34 2007 Subject: Hardware load balancers (lower-end) Folks, I'd like to know what you're using for lower-end *hardware* load balancing for your ColdFusion apps. I've got an application to deal with that doesn't have a lot of network bandwidth but does have a lot of processor load, so I don't need a paired set of BIGIPs to manage it :) I'd prefer a packaged hardware solution that supports sticky sessions -- the app was not really designed for clustering. Something like an old Cisco LocalDirector off ebay is probably about the right speed! Details: CFMX7 *Standard*, servers are Windows 2003, Web edition. Using java sessions. Currently using Sonicwall and Cisco in the network infrastructure. Thoughts/recommendations? -- John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/Transitionpoint (blog) http://www.ashenfelter.com (email) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:274522 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Hardware load balancers (lower-end)
Folks, I'd like to know what you're using for lower-end *hardware* load balancing for your ColdFusion apps. I've got an application to deal with that doesn't have a lot of network bandwidth but does have a lot of processor load, so I don't need a paired set of BIGIPs to manage it :) I'd prefer a packaged hardware solution that supports sticky sessions -- the app was not really designed for clustering. Something like an old Cisco LocalDirector off ebay is probably about the right speed! Details: CFMX7 *Standard*, servers are Windows 2003, Web edition. Using java sessions. Currently using Sonicwall and Cisco in the network infrastructure. Thoughts/recommendations? -- John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/Transitionpoint (blog) http://www.ashenfelter.com (email) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:274506 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
