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William Seiter wrote:
> Their technical support knows and knew that the cfdump tag was not
> permitted, regardless of how it functions behind the scenes. They should
> have shown that in their advertised list of tags they don't support.
cfdump is not even a tag you *can* restrict in ColdFusion. It is not in
the list of tags and functions that can be restricted in the CF
Administrator.
cfdump throwing an error on some datatypes when CreateObject("java", )
is disabled is an undocumented side-effect of the way cfdump is
implemented: cfdump is just a customtag. It functions like any other
customtag and can use the same CFML as your code can use. (Try it:
replace dump.cfm in the cftags folder by your own customtag and see what
happens.)
I think you have unrealistic expectations of your host if you expect
them to document behaviour Adobe itself hasn't documented (which is why
I suggest http://adobe.com/go/wish/).
Jochem
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Am I being too forward then to suggest another low cost alternative, that DOESNT ban CFDUMP? In fact there are only a very few tags/functions we dont enable. There are some that are disabled by default, but if you want them, we'll enable them for you, after setting up a sandbox for you. We're not as low-cost as that offer was, but then we dont disable essential tags like CFDUMP. I agree that normally you wouldnt need to debug on a production system, but as you say, William, what if something DOES go wrong on the production box? How do you debug the problem without all the debugging tools. On a production box you turn off the robust error messages, so CFDUMP is very useful for quickly debugging problems. Yes you can get by without - using CFTRY/CFCATCH to grab the errors and sending them to yourself by email, but sometimes a CFDUMP is the quick way to see what's going on if you are on a shared server. Have a look at http://afpwebworks.com and see if that won't help you out. (Currently showing our server is CF7 but in fact new accounts are going on a CF8 box, and we're changing everyone to CF8 in teh next week or so) Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 3:53 PM, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Their technical support knows and knew that the cfdump tag was not > permitted, regardless of how it functions behind the scenes. They should > have shown that in their advertised list of tags they don't support. > > Of course I have a development environment. The intention was to build a > quick and easy system that wouldn't necessitate me to replicate everything. > Besides, it isn't unheard of to have to debug a system after launching it to > someone else's box. > > https://support.dailyrazor.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kba > rticleid=293&nav=0,29,76 > > > William > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:308994 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Hosting Announcement
Their technical support knows and knew that the cfdump tag was not
permitted, regardless of how it functions behind the scenes. They should
have shown that in their advertised list of tags they don't support.
Of course I have a development environment. The intention was to build a
quick and easy system that wouldn't necessitate me to replicate everything.
Besides, it isn't unheard of to have to debug a system after launching it to
someone else's box.
https://support.dailyrazor.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kba
rticleid=293&nav=0,29,76
William
::William Seiter wrote:
::> I just found out (the hard way) that in addition to this:
::> On the shared ColdFusion servers you will have access to all tags and
::> functions except for the following:
::
::> CF Functions:
::
::> CreateObject(JAVA)
::>
::> They don't allow the 'CFDUMP' tag!!
::
::Most likely they do allow access to the cfdump tag, but cfdump is trying
::to inspect a variable by using a CreateObject("java", ...) internally.
::You could ask Adobe to fix that: http://adobe.com/go/wish/
::
::
::> Does any one have any experience with this company? Is there a 'magic
::way'
::> to get them to turn on the 'CFDUMP' tag?
::
::What do you need cfdump for anyway? Don't you have a development
::environment?
::
::Jochem
::
::
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Re: Hosting Announcement
William Seiter wrote:
> I just found out (the hard way) that in addition to this:
> On the shared ColdFusion servers you will have access to all tags and
> functions except for the following:
> CF Functions:
> CreateObject(JAVA)
>
> They don't allow the 'CFDUMP' tag!!
Most likely they do allow access to the cfdump tag, but cfdump is trying
to inspect a variable by using a CreateObject("java", ...) internally.
You could ask Adobe to fix that: http://adobe.com/go/wish/
> Does any one have any experience with this company? Is there a 'magic way'
> to get them to turn on the 'CFDUMP' tag?
What do you need cfdump for anyway? Don't you have a development
environment?
Jochem
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Holy Whatevers!! I just found out (the hard way) that in addition to this: On the shared ColdFusion servers you will have access to all tags and functions except for the following: CF Tags: CFCOLLECTION CFCONTENT CFEXECUTE CFLOG CFOBJECT CFOBJECTCACHE CFREGISTRY CF Functions: SetProfileString CreateObject(COM) CreateObject(CORBA) CreateObject(JAVA) They don't allow the 'CFDUMP' tag!! Does any one have any experience with this company? Is there a 'magic way' to get them to turn on the 'CFDUMP' tag? Or are they just SFB to begin and end with?? William -- William Seiter ColdFusion Web Developer / Consultant http://william.seiter.com Free Website Trade Publication >> Website Magazine http://www.websitemagazine.com/referrals/?id=51344&f=text2 Don't forget to answer the survey questions, it's a 10 second task , a very small request for access to this incredible resource. Have you ever read a book that changed your life? Go to: http://www.winninginthemargins.com Use PassKey: GoldenGrove You'll be glad you did. ::-Original Message- ::From: William Seiter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ::Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 1:16 PM ::To: CF-Talk ::Subject: Hosting Announcement :: :: ::http://www.dailyrazor.com :: ::Daily Razor is having a HUGE sale today (July 7). :: ::Whatever plan you choose, you will get 4X the value!! Want a plan that ::can host 32 websites, choose the starter plan and the 8 domains becomes 32 ::domains. :: ::I am not affiliated with them (just a customer), so I wouldn't mind if you ::mention me in the comments section, but I don't think I get any credit for ::referrals. :: ::This is a great increase in value. :: ::William Seiter :: :: :: ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:308988 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Hosting Announcement
their base rates look great. would love to hear from others using these hosting plans to reliability etc. have been pretty loyal to nz based companies so far, but lately feel they are not that interested in reseller plans etc. mike > http://www.dailyrazor.com > > Daily Razor is having a HUGE sale today (July 7). > > Whatever plan you choose, you will get 4X the value!! Want a plan > that can host 32 websites, choose the starter plan and the 8 domains > becomes 32 domains. > > I am not affiliated with them (just a customer), so I wouldn't mind if > you mention me in the comments section, but I don't think I get any > credit for referrals. > > This is a great increase in value. > > William Seiter ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:308722 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
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