RE: How good is cfreport?

2007-11-27 Thread Billy Cox
Thanks for the input. It is very helpful.


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From: Jim Pennington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:46 AM
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Subject: Re: How good is cfreport?


I've been using Crystal Reports viewed via the web for sometime. As I am
using an IIS server I've been using asp pages and it works great. I am using
a program called recrystallize (www.recrystallize.com) which is a wizard
that processes your rpt file and you need to provide the database connection
information, parameters and how you want the report to be displayed. Once
the process is completed it generates the ASP pages which you place on your
web server. I've been using it for years and it's a great tool.

Jim Pennington

On Nov 27, 2007 10:17 AM, Cutter (CFRelated) <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Not positive on this, but I believe the multiple query thing was 
> handled with CF 8...
>
> Steve "Cutter" Blades
> Adobe Certified Professional
> Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer 
> _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com
>
> Kris Jones wrote:
> >> You should be able to do pretty much anything that Crystal Reports 
> >> supports with the built-in  and the (free) Report 
> >> Builder. Talk to Dean Harmon at Adobe if you have specific 
> >> questions (since he wrote most of the reporting subsystem).
> >
> > Sorry, but I'm not convinced of this. I've written some pretty 
> > complex Crystal Reports way back when, and after working with the 
> > Report Builder for a year +, can say that it isn't quite there yet. 
> > Good tool, no doubt, but still buggy, and doesn't support some 
> > things that I could use. (How about being able to pass in multiple 
> > queries to the
> > report.) The IDE is very mouse-unfriendly, and I've seen instances of
> > objects getting "stuck" in invisible places (how does an object get
> > set to a negative y axis inside of a section?). Granted, I'm not on
> > CF8 yet either (we're on 7.02) -- hopefully there's been huge progress
> > made since?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kris
> >
> >
>
> 



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Re: How good is cfreport?

2007-11-27 Thread Jim Pennington
I've been using Crystal Reports viewed via the web for sometime. As I am
using an IIS server I've been using asp pages and it works great. I am using
a program called recrystallize (www.recrystallize.com) which is a wizard
that processes your rpt file and you need to provide the database connection
information, parameters and how you want the report to be displayed. Once
the process is completed it generates the ASP pages which you place on your
web server. I've been using it for years and it's a great tool.

Jim Pennington

On Nov 27, 2007 10:17 AM, Cutter (CFRelated) <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Not positive on this, but I believe the multiple query thing was handled
> with CF 8...
>
> Steve "Cutter" Blades
> Adobe Certified Professional
> Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
> _
> http://blog.cutterscrossing.com
>
> Kris Jones wrote:
> >> You should be able to do pretty much anything that Crystal Reports
> >> supports with the built-in  and the (free) Report Builder.
> >> Talk to Dean Harmon at Adobe if you have specific questions (since he
> >> wrote most of the reporting subsystem).
> >
> > Sorry, but I'm not convinced of this. I've written some pretty complex
> > Crystal Reports way back when, and after working with the Report
> > Builder for a year +, can say that it isn't quite there yet. Good
> > tool, no doubt, but still buggy, and doesn't support some things that
> > I could use. (How about being able to pass in multiple queries to the
> > report.) The IDE is very mouse-unfriendly, and I've seen instances of
> > objects getting "stuck" in invisible places (how does an object get
> > set to a negative y axis inside of a section?). Granted, I'm not on
> > CF8 yet either (we're on 7.02) -- hopefully there's been huge progress
> > made since?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kris
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: How good is cfreport?

2007-11-27 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
Not positive on this, but I believe the multiple query thing was handled 
with CF 8...

Steve "Cutter" Blades
Adobe Certified Professional
Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
_
http://blog.cutterscrossing.com

Kris Jones wrote:
>> You should be able to do pretty much anything that Crystal Reports
>> supports with the built-in  and the (free) Report Builder.
>> Talk to Dean Harmon at Adobe if you have specific questions (since he
>> wrote most of the reporting subsystem).
> 
> Sorry, but I'm not convinced of this. I've written some pretty complex
> Crystal Reports way back when, and after working with the Report
> Builder for a year +, can say that it isn't quite there yet. Good
> tool, no doubt, but still buggy, and doesn't support some things that
> I could use. (How about being able to pass in multiple queries to the
> report.) The IDE is very mouse-unfriendly, and I've seen instances of
> objects getting "stuck" in invisible places (how does an object get
> set to a negative y axis inside of a section?). Granted, I'm not on
> CF8 yet either (we're on 7.02) -- hopefully there's been huge progress
> made since?
> 
> Cheers,
> Kris
> 
> 

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Re: How good is cfreport?

2007-11-27 Thread Kris Jones
> You should be able to do pretty much anything that Crystal Reports
> supports with the built-in  and the (free) Report Builder.
> Talk to Dean Harmon at Adobe if you have specific questions (since he
> wrote most of the reporting subsystem).

Sorry, but I'm not convinced of this. I've written some pretty complex
Crystal Reports way back when, and after working with the Report
Builder for a year +, can say that it isn't quite there yet. Good
tool, no doubt, but still buggy, and doesn't support some things that
I could use. (How about being able to pass in multiple queries to the
report.) The IDE is very mouse-unfriendly, and I've seen instances of
objects getting "stuck" in invisible places (how does an object get
set to a negative y axis inside of a section?). Granted, I'm not on
CF8 yet either (we're on 7.02) -- hopefully there's been huge progress
made since?

Cheers,
Kris

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Re: How good is cfreport?

2007-11-27 Thread Sean Corfield
On Nov 26, 2007 2:28 PM, Billy Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone have experience with outputting Crystal Reports using
> ColdFusion? We have a number of existing Crystal Reports that I would like
> to leverage if possible. I am also making a purchase decision between Blue
> Dragon Server JX and CF Server 8.0, so I want to know whether CF Server
> (cfreport tag) is worth the extra bucks.

You should be able to do pretty much anything that Crystal Reports
supports with the built-in  and the (free) Report Builder.
Talk to Dean Harmon at Adobe if you have specific questions (since he
wrote most of the reporting subsystem).
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Re: How good is cfreport?

2007-11-26 Thread David Mineer
I have been using crystal reports for years, but not with cfreport.  I
use an asp page to render the Crystal Report in a .pdf format.  I pass
the variables I need from coldfusion to the .asp page, which then
calls the Crystal report, and exports it to .pdf, then displays the
..pdf to the user.

More recently I have written code to use .net to do ths.  It should be
easy with .net, but it aint for me, although it does work.

But it is a major pain and not very portable between machines. I am
really hoping that I will be able to convert this to the CF report
builder, although I have not been able to convert our detailed, multi
column report to the cf report builder copying the functionality and
design.

Recreating your reports with cfreport builder may be quicker.  People
probably hate this option.


On Nov 26, 2007 3:28 PM, Billy Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone have experience with outputting Crystal Reports using
> ColdFusion? We have a number of existing Crystal Reports that I would like
> to leverage if possible. I am also making a purchase decision between Blue
> Dragon Server JX and CF Server 8.0, so I want to know whether CF Server
> (cfreport tag) is worth the extra bucks.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Billy Cox
> Old World Spices
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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How good is cfreport?

2007-11-26 Thread Billy Cox
Does anyone have experience with outputting Crystal Reports using
ColdFusion? We have a number of existing Crystal Reports that I would like
to leverage if possible. I am also making a purchase decision between Blue
Dragon Server JX and CF Server 8.0, so I want to know whether CF Server
(cfreport tag) is worth the extra bucks.
 
 
Thanks,
 
Billy Cox
Old World Spices
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 




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