Re: Is running CF on J2EE server more stable?
On 4/29/06, Douglas Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/systemreqs/ Tomcat is not supported. AFAIK, CF needs a full J2EE app server, Tomcat is not, Tomcat is a servlet container. Doh! I always get that and jboss/tomcat confused. They are not the same thing Denny! Maybe that will do it, and I'll remember. [-; Thanks for the link and the correction: only you can prevent future zebra crossing accidents, so to speak. Har har har :D ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239129 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Is running CF on J2EE server more stable?
Hi Guy. Ok, thanks for all the information, I think I understand that now. I will have a play around with the JRun J2EE configuration on a test box and see how it pans out. In the past I have only run CFMX in server configuration with Apache. Regards, Andrew. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239147 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Is running CF on J2EE server more stable?
http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/systemreqs/ Tomcat is not supported. AFAIK, CF needs a full J2EE app server, Tomcat is not, Tomcat is a servlet container. DK On 4/28/06, Denny Valliant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bingo! That's pretty much what I meant. On 4/28/06, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure I understand your comment about Tomcat... It is a J2ee server isn't it? why would it be mix and match? If you purchase CFMX Enterprise (which is what you need to run CF on J2EE) it comes with a full licensed copy of JRun. Presumably, Adobe spends more time ensuring that CFMX runs well on JRun than on Tomcat; I don't recall offhand whether Tomcat is a supported platform, even. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239120 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Is running CF on J2EE server more stable?
Not sure I understand your comment about Tomcat... It is a J2ee server isn't it? why would it be mix and match? Regards Andrew. On 4/27/06, Denny Valliant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was for me. It is because I write poor code, but none the less, the j2ee install was much more stable than the stand alone. Before the server would crash hard when the going got rough, but with the J2EE install, it just gets sluggish 9 out of 10 times. I still manage to make it crash and burn, of course, but it does seem a little harder. Just my experience, apparently unmatched. Take it for WIW. :) Although I'd think twice about tomcat... not that it's a bad idea - I rather like mixing and matching - but if you're aiming for stable, you should probably avoid the experimental. Not that *I* would, but a prudent person... p-: On 4/26/06, Andrew Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. We have been having some reliability issues with CF recently and where wondering if it was more reliable/stable if it was run over a J2EE server instead in server configuration mode? We would be looking at deploying it using Tomcat. Any thoughts? Kind regards, Andrew ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239068 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Is running CF on J2EE server more stable?
Not sure I understand your comment about Tomcat... It is a J2ee server isn't it? why would it be mix and match? If you purchase CFMX Enterprise (which is what you need to run CF on J2EE) it comes with a full licensed copy of JRun. Presumably, Adobe spends more time ensuring that CFMX runs well on JRun than on Tomcat; I don't recall offhand whether Tomcat is a supported platform, even. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239079 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Is running CF on J2EE server more stable?
Bingo! That's pretty much what I meant. On 4/28/06, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure I understand your comment about Tomcat... It is a J2ee server isn't it? why would it be mix and match? If you purchase CFMX Enterprise (which is what you need to run CF on J2EE) it comes with a full licensed copy of JRun. Presumably, Adobe spends more time ensuring that CFMX runs well on JRun than on Tomcat; I don't recall offhand whether Tomcat is a supported platform, even. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239095 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Is running CF on J2EE server more stable?
We have been having some reliability issues with CF recently and where wondering if it was more reliable/stable if it was run over a J2EE server instead in server configuration mode? By default, no. However, when you run it on a full J2EE server, you can take advantage of functionality provided by that server that may improve overall stability, such as the ability to run multiple instances. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:238850 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Is running CF on J2EE server more stable?
Having done both in the past two years, my experience is that there isn't a discernable difference in reliability between the two. That being said, installing CF on a separate J2EE server does provide you with more flexibility in options - which *may* in the end give you more stability. Being able to easily integrate third-party monitoring tools, tinkering with deployment and memory settings, native libraries, etc. Reliability issues is a nebulous term, and without knowing specifics, it's hard to say if doing a J2EE deployment would help you or not because it can depend on so many things. Is it that your Jrun instance is constantly restarting - or not responding adequately? Steve Brownlee www.orbwave.com/cfjboss -Original Message- From: Andrew Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:40 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Is running CF on J2EE server more stable? Hi. We have been having some reliability issues with CF recently and where wondering if it was more reliable/stable if it was run over a J2EE server instead in server configuration mode? We would be looking at deploying it using Tomcat. Any thoughts? Kind regards, Andrew ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:238853 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Is running CF on J2EE server more stable?
It was for me. It is because I write poor code, but none the less, the j2ee install was much more stable than the stand alone. Before the server would crash hard when the going got rough, but with the J2EE install, it just gets sluggish 9 out of 10 times. I still manage to make it crash and burn, of course, but it does seem a little harder. Just my experience, apparently unmatched. Take it for WIW. :) Although I'd think twice about tomcat... not that it's a bad idea - I rather like mixing and matching - but if you're aiming for stable, you should probably avoid the experimental. Not that *I* would, but a prudent person... p-: On 4/26/06, Andrew Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. We have been having some reliability issues with CF recently and where wondering if it was more reliable/stable if it was run over a J2EE server instead in server configuration mode? We would be looking at deploying it using Tomcat. Any thoughts? Kind regards, Andrew ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239003 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Is running CF on J2EE server more stable?
Hi. We have been having some reliability issues with CF recently and where wondering if it was more reliable/stable if it was run over a J2EE server instead in server configuration mode? We would be looking at deploying it using Tomcat. Any thoughts? Kind regards, Andrew ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:238841 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Is running CF on J2EE server more stable?
Standalone mode is running on Adobe's JRun J2EE server, just the JRun instance is hidden from view. You can still find the JRun installation in a standalone server, you just have to look for it. I've run CF on Tomcat without issue, but never in production, and I'm pretty sure it's not a supported server. cheers, barneyb On 4/26/06, Andrew Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. We have been having some reliability issues with CF recently and where wondering if it was more reliable/stable if it was run over a J2EE server instead in server configuration mode? We would be looking at deploying it using Tomcat. Any thoughts? Kind regards, Andrew -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 100 invites. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:238842 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
