Lasso vs Cold Fusion white paper - Your thoughts??
This was posted on the dreamweaver mailing list (incidently run by blueworld) http://www.blueworld.com/blueworld/news/06.28.00LassovsColdFusion.html Its a camparison between Lasso and CF. Anyone care to comment who's used both?? Regards Stephen -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Lasso vs Cold Fusion white paper - Your thoughts??
This was posted on the dreamweaver mailing list (incidently run by blueworld) http://www.blueworld.com/blueworld/news/06.28.00LassovsColdFusion.html Anyone care to comment who's used both?? I use lasso extensively... Ive chatted with bill doerfeld (owner of blueworld and lasso) and to be honest with you bill is blowin smoke up someone's ass. pardon my language. if you read the whitepaper closely you will note that it uses the language - "in certain operations" quite frequently. dont get me wrong or mishear me here - lasso is a fine...fine product for what it does (and its feature set is somewhat close to coldfusion's)...BUT its NOT coldfusion. Ive been dabbling in CF for almost as long as I have been with lasso (granted Ive been doing extensive lasso work for the last 3 years more so than cf ), its an easier tag language to learn in some respects because it shielded (until the most recent version) you from the aspects of having to learn SQL or getting familiar with it and thats because lasso (up until recently) only talked to 1 db - filemaker. It now talks to FileMaker, ACI's 4D, Access, Oracle, Primebaseetc. Its quite a lil robust language...but its NO where close to the level of functionality that CF has achieved - so yeah...bill doerfeld is blowin smoke up your ass with that white paper. An example of where Lasso doesn't even come close is session management. CF allows you to fully manage your session variables and keep track of each individual session. lassojust released an update and that update included a SessionId tag - or a 28 digit random number that uses the ip-address as its key randomator. That's about as close as lasso comes to session management ... there IS a 3rd party JAVA library that will plug into lasso to allow you session variables... but thats about it, and you gotta pay extra for it. CF on the other hand... well you've all used session variables im sure by now...more so than I. I just know that I can track a user through a site with CF more easily than with lasso Another area ? FTP, LDAP, and POP. CF has these functions built in and easily manageble with a few simple tags. Lasso ? Nyetnot even on the radar screen. There's morebut I wont yabbleon and on. Thats my .03 cents on the issue of lasso vs. cf. In short, dont sell your allaire stock just yet. Miles. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Lasso vs Cold Fusion white paper - Your thoughts??
(reposted from my response to the CF-COMMUNITY list.) While my experience with Lasso is somewhat dated, I feel qualified to comment. This paper may have been a decent comparison of the "low-end" database enabled website, but it did not do justice to Cold Fusions exceptional processing, including scoped variables, complex data structures and extensive use of caching. If all you're doing is putting stuff in a database and displaying it, Lasso is pretty nifty. But if you're building an online application, you quickly run into Lasso's inherent limitations. Sharon At 11:20 AM 6/29/2000 +0100, Stephen Moretti wrote: This was posted on the dreamweaver mailing list (incidently run by blueworld) http://www.blueworld.com/blueworld/news/06.28.00LassovsColdFusion.html Its a camparison between Lasso and CF. Anyone care to comment who's used both?? Regards Stephen --- --- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Lasso vs Cold Fusion white paper - Your thoughts??
Jeff Howden and I both chimed in on this yesterday after Bill mentioned the white paper on the monkeyjunkies mailing list.. http://lists.hotwired.com/webmonkey/monkeyjunkies/archive/msg00567.html http://lists.hotwired.com/webmonkey/monkeyjunkies/archive/msg00572.html The security of lasso is simply horrible as well. We were able to view DB table and column names(and lasso source) by calling a simple lasso page with no paramters. .djc. Sharon DiOrio wrote: (reposted from my response to the CF-COMMUNITY list.) While my experience with Lasso is somewhat dated, I feel qualified to comment. This paper may have been a decent comparison of the "low-end" database enabled website, but it did not do justice to Cold Fusions exceptional processing, including scoped variables, complex data structures and extensive use of caching. If all you're doing is putting stuff in a database and displaying it, Lasso is pretty nifty. But if you're building an online application, you quickly run into Lasso's inherent limitations. Sharon At 11:20 AM 6/29/2000 +0100, Stephen Moretti wrote: This was posted on the dreamweaver mailing list (incidently run by blueworld) http://www.blueworld.com/blueworld/news/06.28.00LassovsColdFusion.html Its a camparison between Lasso and CF. Anyone care to comment who's used both?? -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
