OT: Need to disable print button or at least trap and display a message.
Hi all, I was wondering if someone will be able to help me with a issue that I am having. I need to be able to either disable the print button in the browser toolbar (IE only) or trap that the user click the print button and display a message, that the form is not complete or if it is possible to print a different document, then the unfinished form. I know that I can open the form in a browser window without the toolbar but people get real ticked off if that tool bar is missing and then call the support desk to complain that their browsers is not working correctly. The problem basically is that my users are lazy and will print off a half completed form, then fill in the rest of the fields by hand and then fax the form - instead of doing it all online. The form needs to be printed at the end but that is after all the fields are filled out. If anyone knows how to stop this, that would be great. We are using CFMX for this application if that matters - maybe CF could be used to trap the print??? Thanks Mario This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain sensitive and private proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. CREDIT SUISSE GROUP and each legal entity in the CREDIT SUISSE FIRST BOSTON or CREDIT SUISSE ASSET MANAGEMENT business units of CREDIT SUISSE FIRST BOSTON reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. Unless otherwise stated, any pricing information given in this message is indicative only, is subject to change and does not constitute an offer to deal at any price quoted. Any reference to the terms of executed transactions should be treated as preliminary only and subject to our formal written confirmation. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT: Need to disable print button or at least trap and display a message.
Mario - You can't disable the print button in the browser, but the method you were using is probably the most effective way of doing that - opening a new window without a toolbar. For good measure, you may want to trap the right-click to keep people from choosing the print command through the context menu. You could possibly place the form in a large frame with a smaller frame above it extolling the users to fill out the form in its entirety before printing. Have you looked into using PDF's? I know you can disable printing a document completely, but I don't know if you can granularly control that to only enable printing after certain criteria (such as filling out all form fields) have been met. - Jim Ciliotta, Mario wrote: Hi all, I was wondering if someone will be able to help me with a issue that I am having. I need to be able to either disable the print button in the browser toolbar (IE only) or trap that the user click the print button and display a message, that the form is not complete or if it is possible to print a different document, then the unfinished form. I know that I can open the form in a browser window without the toolbar but people get real ticked off if that tool bar is missing and then call the support desk to complain that their browsers is not working correctly. The problem basically is that my users are lazy and will print off a half completed form, then fill in the rest of the fields by hand and then fax the form - instead of doing it all online. The form needs to be printed at the end but that is after all the fields are filled out. If anyone knows how to stop this, that would be great. We are using CFMX for this application if that matters - maybe CF could be used to trap the print??? Thanks Mario This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain sensitive and private proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. CREDIT SUISSE GROUP and each legal entity in the CREDIT SUISSE FIRST BOSTON or CREDIT SUISSE ASSET MANAGEMENT business units of CREDIT SUISSE FIRST BOSTON reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. Unless otherwise stated, any pricing information given in this message is indicative only, is subject to change and does not constitute an offer to deal at any price quoted. Any reference to the terms of executed transactions should be treated as preliminary only and subject to our formal written confirmation. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT: Need to disable print button or at least trap and display a message.
You could use the onbeforeprint event to hide the page before it prints. But, it could be that perhaps the form should be reworked so that it's easier for users? How about if faxed requests are simply rejected? - Original Message - From: Ciliotta, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2003 9:08 am Subject: OT: Need to disable print button or at least trap and display a message. Hi all, I was wondering if someone will be able to help me with a issue that I am having. I need to be able to either disable the print button in the browser toolbar (IE only) or trap that the user click the print button and display a message, that the form is not complete or if it is possible to print a different document, then the unfinished form. I know that I can open the form in a browser window without the toolbar but people get real ticked off if that tool bar is missing and then call the support desk to complain that their browsers is not working correctly. The problem basically is that my users are lazy and will print off a half completed form, then fill in the rest of the fields by hand and then fax the form - instead of doing it all online. The form needs to be printed at the end but that is after all the fields are filled out. If anyone knows how to stop this, that would be great. We are using CFMX for this application if that matters - maybe CF could be used to trap the print??? Thanks Mario This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain sensitive and private proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. CREDIT SUISSE GROUP and each legal entity in the CREDIT SUISSE FIRST BOSTON or CREDIT SUISSE ASSET MANAGEMENT business units of CREDIT SUISSE FIRST BOSTON reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. Unless otherwise stated, any pricing information given in this message is indicative only, is subject to change and does not constitute an offer to deal at any price quoted. Any reference to the terms of executed transactions should be treated as preliminary only and subject to our formal written confirmation. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: OT: Need to disable print button or at least trap and display a message.
You can also use style sheets to determine what gets printed as opposed to what users view on screen - so just use a media=print stylesheet and make it blank - or something! eg: link href=/css/knstyle.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css media=screen link href=/css/knprintstyle.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css media=print We use this method so that people don;t end up printing all the menu/banners etc from webpages. But I've found this only works reliably with IE (4+?) through. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 July 2003 16:47 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT: Need to disable print button or at least trap and display a message. You could use the onbeforeprint event to hide the page before it prints. But, it could be that perhaps the form should be reworked so that it's easier for users? How about if faxed requests are simply rejected? - Original Message - From: Ciliotta, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2003 9:08 am Subject: OT: Need to disable print button or at least trap and display a message. Hi all, I was wondering if someone will be able to help me with a issue that I am having. I need to be able to either disable the print button in the browser toolbar (IE only) or trap that the user click the print button and display a message, that the form is not complete or if it is possible to print a different document, then the unfinished form. I know that I can open the form in a browser window without the toolbar but people get real ticked off if that tool bar is missing and then call the support desk to complain that their browsers is not working correctly. The problem basically is that my users are lazy and will print off a half completed form, then fill in the rest of the fields by hand and then fax the form - instead of doing it all online. The form needs to be printed at the end but that is after all the fields are filled out. If anyone knows how to stop this, that would be great. We are using CFMX for this application if that matters - maybe CF could be used to trap the print??? Thanks Mario This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain sensitive and private proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. CREDIT SUISSE GROUP and each legal entity in the CREDIT SUISSE FIRST BOSTON or CREDIT SUISSE ASSET MANAGEMENT business units of CREDIT SUISSE FIRST BOSTON reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. Unless otherwise stated, any pricing information given in this message is indicative only, is subject to change and does not constitute an offer to deal at any price quoted. Any reference to the terms of executed transactions should be treated as preliminary only and subject to our formal written confirmation. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT: Need to disable print button or at least trap and display a message.
This could also then be controlled with Javascript... perhaps setting each printable element's visibility aspect to visible when it's been filled out - maybe on an onBlur event if there's content in the field or something like that. - Jim A.Little wrote: You can also use style sheets to determine what gets printed as opposed to what users view on screen - so just use a media=print stylesheet and make it blank - or something! eg: link href=/css/knstyle.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css media=screen link href=/css/knprintstyle.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css media=print We use this method so that people don;t end up printing all the menu/banners etc from webpages. But I've found this only works reliably with IE (4+?) through. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 July 2003 16:47 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT: Need to disable print button or at least trap and display a message. You could use the onbeforeprint event to hide the page before it prints. But, it could be that perhaps the form should be reworked so that it's easier for users? How about if faxed requests are simply rejected? - Original Message - From: Ciliotta, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2003 9:08 am Subject: OT: Need to disable print button or at least trap and display a message. Hi all, I was wondering if someone will be able to help me with a issue that I am having. I need to be able to either disable the print button in the browser toolbar (IE only) or trap that the user click the print button and display a message, that the form is not complete or if it is possible to print a different document, then the unfinished form. I know that I can open the form in a browser window without the toolbar but people get real ticked off if that tool bar is missing and then call the support desk to complain that their browsers is not working correctly. The problem basically is that my users are lazy and will print off a half completed form, then fill in the rest of the fields by hand and then fax the form - instead of doing it all online. The form needs to be printed at the end but that is after all the fields are filled out. If anyone knows how to stop this, that would be great. We are using CFMX for this application if that matters - maybe CF could be used to trap the print??? Thanks Mario This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain sensitive and private proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. CREDIT SUISSE GROUP and each legal entity in the CREDIT SUISSE FIRST BOSTON or CREDIT SUISSE ASSET MANAGEMENT business units of CREDIT SUISSE FIRST BOSTON reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. Unless otherwise stated, any pricing information given in this message is indicative only, is subject to change and does not constitute an offer to deal at any price quoted. Any reference to the terms of executed transactions should be treated as preliminary only and subject to our formal written confirmation. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT: Need to disable print button or at least trap and display a message.
-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] But, it could be that perhaps the form should be reworked so that it's easier for users? How about if faxed requests are simply rejected? I think the idea is that the form is supposed to be printed and faxed in, but only after it's been completely filled out. If that's the case, what I'd do is have an HTML Print button on the form itself (that button would not show up on the print-out). When they click it, you'll validate that the form has been printed and alert them if not. If it does validate, then the print dialog shows up allowing them to print the page. Granted, this won't stop them from right-clicking to print, but if I see a big print button on the page itself, I'm gonna click that instead of right-clicking to print. I don't know what the form looks like, but assuming there are text boxes, you may have the problem of the entire field not showing up [i.e., if the field is 25 characters wide, with a maxlength of 30, then a 30-character entry will be cut off. In that case, I'd have the print button, validate as I said, then go to a form processing page that displays the data they filled out, and onload do a print() call. Those are just some options. Of course, life would be easier if there was an onprint() method, but I don't think there is. Scott Scott Brady http://www.scottbrady.net/ ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT: Need to disable print button or at least trap and display a message.
You know, perhaps another option is user training. On the form, have (in bold print, if necessary) a message explaining that they need to fill out all the information on screen prior to printing. Any forms faxed in with hand-written data will be rejected. Scott Scott Brady http://www.scottbrady.net/ ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
