Re: OT-SES and Fusebox on 6.1
Hi Scott, Would you mind sending me the domain name offlist of the site that is working with SES and 6.1 that may help me get a resolution to the problem, I can have them copy the config. If that is ok Mike - Original Message - From: Scott Brady To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:19 AM Subject: re: OT-SES and Fusebox on 6.1 Original Message: > From: "Mickael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I am presently hosting many site with CrystalTech in a shared hosting environment, and they are having a lot of troubles getting SES with fusebox apps to work on 6.1. Is there anyone that has this working with their ISP or work for an ISP that can do it. I am looking to move my customers to an ISP that can provide this service. I have 2 sites with CrystalTech that both use SES URLs (and Fusebox 3). Strangely, one of those sites wouldn't work with SES URLs after the upgrade to 6.1, but the other one does. My guess is that at the time, some of their servers had the XML file fix and others didn't. Because I needed to get the site that wasn't working fixed in a hurry and CT didn't seem to know what the issue was at the time, I just stripped out the SES stuff in that site. (about 15-30 minutes worth of work). Not an ideal solution, and I may try going back to SES on that site in the future. Scott --- Scott Brady http://www.scottbrady.net/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
re: OT-SES and Fusebox on 6.1
Original Message: > From: "Mickael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I am presently hosting many site with CrystalTech in a shared hosting environment, and they are having a lot of troubles getting SES with fusebox apps to work on 6.1. Is there anyone that has this working with their ISP or work for an ISP that can do it. I am looking to move my customers to an ISP that can provide this service. I have 2 sites with CrystalTech that both use SES URLs (and Fusebox 3). Strangely, one of those sites wouldn't work with SES URLs after the upgrade to 6.1, but the other one does. My guess is that at the time, some of their servers had the XML file fix and others didn't. Because I needed to get the site that wasn't working fixed in a hurry and CT didn't seem to know what the issue was at the time, I just stripped out the SES stuff in that site. (about 15-30 minutes worth of work). Not an ideal solution, and I may try going back to SES on that site in the future. Scott --- Scott Brady http://www.scottbrady.net/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: OT-SES and Fusebox on 6.1
Hmmm, I made that modification a long time ago. :-) == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! http://www.clickdoug.com/mailfilter.cfm For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and PHP == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: "Mickael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:57 AM Subject: Re: OT-SES and Fusebox on 6.1 | Hi Doug, | | Here is what I just posted from a another list member | | There is a known issue with CFMX6.1 on J2EE configuration which means you need to manually edit the web.xml. | Issue number is 52942: | http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/releasenotes/mx/mx61_known_problems.html#generalserver | I can't post to the list at the moment, so if you want to forward this it might help anyone else who has come across this issue. | | - Original Message - | From: Doug White | To: CF-Talk | Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:46 AM | Subject: Re: OT-SES and Fusebox on 6.1 | | | Hello Michael; | | OK I understand. As for me, I don't have problems with setting "tweaks" as you | call them, provided they do not compromise security or runtimes for other shared | clients. In fact, I have even given a very trusted client direct access to CF | Administrator to make limited changes (mostly along the lines of mapping, | though) but this is the exception to the rule. | | That said, I am sure you realize that running CF 6.1 in a shared server | environment proved to be a larger challenge than Macromedia anticipated, | however, they did finally address most of the issues in the latest updater. I | even placed a server at their disposal during the Red Sky beta program in order | to fix them. There were few issues in running single instances, such as on a | development box, but a variety of issues arose in the hosting area. I can | understand your experience with the CF 5.0 environment, as that has been just | about bullet-proof in our experience. For this reason, we still support that | platform as well. | | Now, I am not defending your provider, but I personally feel most of the issues | were resolved in my own set of circumstances, and we currently have 6.1 running | successfully on both Windows 2003 and on Linux. | | | I am curious as to the "tweaks" you would require and how they would affect the | shared environment. Perhaps there is something in the administration I have | missed. | | | == | Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! | http://www.clickdoug.com/mailfilter.cfm | For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com | Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and PHP | == | If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! | | - Original Message - | From: "Mickael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:20 AM | Subject: Re: OT-SES and Fusebox on 6.1 | | | Doug, | | | | It is quite simple, an ISP in a shared environment has access to the admin and | IIS settings, to get SES to work their is a minor tweak that needs to be done if | there are troubles getting this to run. The app runs fine on my machine with is | an out of the box install, and no special configuration. My machine is not | however a large shared server. | | | | My ISP had this environment set up properly for CF5 yet they have difficulties | getting it to work again on 6.1. I know that you are an ISP but I disagree | slightly with the your statement that says one could expect custom setups. This | is what attracted me to Crystaltech in the first place, for a shared server | price I got customized service. | | | | | | - Original Message - | | From: Doug White | | To: CF-Talk | | Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:10 AM | | Subject: Re: OT-SES and Fusebox on 6.1 | | | | | | Explain how your ISP can be having trouble running apps? All they are | required | | to do is to provide the environment, with the responsibility of the app | being on | | the programmer. The server set up should be in accordance with existing | best | | practices. | | | | I would think, in general terms, that if your provider provides the | environment, | | software, uptime and connectivity, they are doing the job.. Of course it is | | incumbent on them to timely apply security patches and updates as they | become | | available. I doubt one could expect a custom set up on a shared service and | | still provide some security to the other sites h
Re: OT-SES and Fusebox on 6.1
Hi Doug, Here is what I just posted from a another list member There is a known issue with CFMX6.1 on J2EE configuration which means you need to manually edit the web.xml. Issue number is 52942: http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/releasenotes/mx/mx61_known_problems.html#generalserver I can't post to the list at the moment, so if you want to forward this it might help anyone else who has come across this issue. - Original Message - From: Doug White To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:46 AM Subject: Re: OT-SES and Fusebox on 6.1 Hello Michael; OK I understand. As for me, I don't have problems with setting "tweaks" as you call them, provided they do not compromise security or runtimes for other shared clients. In fact, I have even given a very trusted client direct access to CF Administrator to make limited changes (mostly along the lines of mapping, though) but this is the exception to the rule. That said, I am sure you realize that running CF 6.1 in a shared server environment proved to be a larger challenge than Macromedia anticipated, however, they did finally address most of the issues in the latest updater. I even placed a server at their disposal during the Red Sky beta program in order to fix them. There were few issues in running single instances, such as on a development box, but a variety of issues arose in the hosting area. I can understand your experience with the CF 5.0 environment, as that has been just about bullet-proof in our experience. For this reason, we still support that platform as well. Now, I am not defending your provider, but I personally feel most of the issues were resolved in my own set of circumstances, and we currently have 6.1 running successfully on both Windows 2003 and on Linux. I am curious as to the "tweaks" you would require and how they would affect the shared environment. Perhaps there is something in the administration I have missed. == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! http://www.clickdoug.com/mailfilter.cfm For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and PHP == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: "Mickael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:20 AM Subject: Re: OT-SES and Fusebox on 6.1 | Doug, | | It is quite simple, an ISP in a shared environment has access to the admin and IIS settings, to get SES to work their is a minor tweak that needs to be done if there are troubles getting this to run. The app runs fine on my machine with is an out of the box install, and no special configuration. My machine is not however a large shared server. | | My ISP had this environment set up properly for CF5 yet they have difficulties getting it to work again on 6.1. I know that you are an ISP but I disagree slightly with the your statement that says one could expect custom setups. This is what attracted me to Crystaltech in the first place, for a shared server price I got customized service. | | | - Original Message - | From: Doug White | To: CF-Talk | Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:10 AM | Subject: Re: OT-SES and Fusebox on 6.1 | | | Explain how your ISP can be having trouble running apps? All they are required | to do is to provide the environment, with the responsibility of the app being on | the programmer. The server set up should be in accordance with existing best | practices. | | I would think, in general terms, that if your provider provides the environment, | software, uptime and connectivity, they are doing the job.. Of course it is | incumbent on them to timely apply security patches and updates as they become | available. I doubt one could expect a custom set up on a shared service and | still provide some security to the other sites hosted on that particular server. | | On the other hand, perhaps I misunderstand your needs. | | == | Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! | http://www.clickdoug.com/mailfilter.cfm | For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com | Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux Enterprise, CFMX 6.1, ASP and PHP | == | If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! | | - Original Message - | From: "Mickael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:43 AM | Subject: OT-SES and Fusebox on 6.1 | | | Hello All, | | | | I am
Re: OT-SES and Fusebox on 6.1
Hello Michael; OK I understand. As for me, I don't have problems with setting "tweaks" as you call them, provided they do not compromise security or runtimes for other shared clients. In fact, I have even given a very trusted client direct access to CF Administrator to make limited changes (mostly along the lines of mapping, though) but this is the exception to the rule. That said, I am sure you realize that running CF 6.1 in a shared server environment proved to be a larger challenge than Macromedia anticipated, however, they did finally address most of the issues in the latest updater. I even placed a server at their disposal during the Red Sky beta program in order to fix them. There were few issues in running single instances, such as on a development box, but a variety of issues arose in the hosting area. I can understand your experience with the CF 5.0 environment, as that has been just about bullet-proof in our experience. For this reason, we still support that platform as well. Now, I am not defending your provider, but I personally feel most of the issues were resolved in my own set of circumstances, and we currently have 6.1 running successfully on both Windows 2003 and on Linux. I am curious as to the "tweaks" you would require and how they would affect the shared environment. Perhaps there is something in the administration I have missed. == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! http://www.clickdoug.com/mailfilter.cfm For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and PHP == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: "Mickael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:20 AM Subject: Re: OT-SES and Fusebox on 6.1 | Doug, | | It is quite simple, an ISP in a shared environment has access to the admin and IIS settings, to get SES to work their is a minor tweak that needs to be done if there are troubles getting this to run. The app runs fine on my machine with is an out of the box install, and no special configuration. My machine is not however a large shared server. | | My ISP had this environment set up properly for CF5 yet they have difficulties getting it to work again on 6.1. I know that you are an ISP but I disagree slightly with the your statement that says one could expect custom setups. This is what attracted me to Crystaltech in the first place, for a shared server price I got customized service. | | | - Original Message - | From: Doug White | To: CF-Talk | Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:10 AM | Subject: Re: OT-SES and Fusebox on 6.1 | | | Explain how your ISP can be having trouble running apps? All they are required | to do is to provide the environment, with the responsibility of the app being on | the programmer. The server set up should be in accordance with existing best | practices. | | I would think, in general terms, that if your provider provides the environment, | software, uptime and connectivity, they are doing the job.. Of course it is | incumbent on them to timely apply security patches and updates as they become | available. I doubt one could expect a custom set up on a shared service and | still provide some security to the other sites hosted on that particular server. | | On the other hand, perhaps I misunderstand your needs. | | == | Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! | http://www.clickdoug.com/mailfilter.cfm | For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com | Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux Enterprise, CFMX 6.1, ASP and PHP | == | If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! | | - Original Message - | From: "Mickael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:43 AM | Subject: OT-SES and Fusebox on 6.1 | | | Hello All, | | | | I am presently hosting many site with CrystalTech in a shared hosting | environment, and they are having a lot of troubles getting SES with fusebox apps | to work on 6.1. Is there anyone that has this working with their ISP or work | for an ISP that can do it. I am looking to move my customers to an ISP that can | provide this service. | | | | Mike | | | | | | | | [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: OT-SES and Fusebox on 6.1
This was sent to me by a person on the list that cannot post at this time Hi Mike There is a known issue with CFMX6.1 on J2EE configuration which means you need to manually edit the web.xml. Issue number is 52942: http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/releasenotes/mx/mx61_known_problems.html#generalserver I can't post to the list at the moment, so if you want to forward this it might help anyone else who has come across this issue. Cheers Bert - Original Message - From: Mickael To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:43 AM Subject: OT-SES and Fusebox on 6.1 Hello All, I am presently hosting many site with CrystalTech in a shared hosting environment, and they are having a lot of troubles getting SES with fusebox apps to work on 6.1. Is there anyone that has this working with their ISP or work for an ISP that can do it. I am looking to move my customers to an ISP that can provide this service. Mike [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: OT-SES and Fusebox on 6.1
Doug, It is quite simple, an ISP in a shared environment has access to the admin and IIS settings, to get SES to work their is a minor tweak that needs to be done if there are troubles getting this to run. The app runs fine on my machine with is an out of the box install, and no special configuration. My machine is not however a large shared server. My ISP had this environment set up properly for CF5 yet they have difficulties getting it to work again on 6.1. I know that you are an ISP but I disagree slightly with the your statement that says one could expect custom setups. This is what attracted me to Crystaltech in the first place, for a shared server price I got customized service. - Original Message - From: Doug White To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:10 AM Subject: Re: OT-SES and Fusebox on 6.1 Explain how your ISP can be having trouble running apps? All they are required to do is to provide the environment, with the responsibility of the app being on the programmer. The server set up should be in accordance with existing best practices. I would think, in general terms, that if your provider provides the environment, software, uptime and connectivity, they are doing the job.. Of course it is incumbent on them to timely apply security patches and updates as they become available. I doubt one could expect a custom set up on a shared service and still provide some security to the other sites hosted on that particular server. On the other hand, perhaps I misunderstand your needs. == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! http://www.clickdoug.com/mailfilter.cfm For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux Enterprise, CFMX 6.1, ASP and PHP == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: "Mickael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:43 AM Subject: OT-SES and Fusebox on 6.1 | Hello All, | | I am presently hosting many site with CrystalTech in a shared hosting environment, and they are having a lot of troubles getting SES with fusebox apps to work on 6.1. Is there anyone that has this working with their ISP or work for an ISP that can do it. I am looking to move my customers to an ISP that can provide this service. | | Mike | | | [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: OT-SES and Fusebox on 6.1
Explain how your ISP can be having trouble running apps? All they are required to do is to provide the environment, with the responsibility of the app being on the programmer. The server set up should be in accordance with existing best practices. I would think, in general terms, that if your provider provides the environment, software, uptime and connectivity, they are doing the job.. Of course it is incumbent on them to timely apply security patches and updates as they become available. I doubt one could expect a custom set up on a shared service and still provide some security to the other sites hosted on that particular server. On the other hand, perhaps I misunderstand your needs. == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! http://www.clickdoug.com/mailfilter.cfm For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux Enterprise, CFMX 6.1, ASP and PHP == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: "Mickael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:43 AM Subject: OT-SES and Fusebox on 6.1 | Hello All, | | I am presently hosting many site with CrystalTech in a shared hosting environment, and they are having a lot of troubles getting SES with fusebox apps to work on 6.1. Is there anyone that has this working with their ISP or work for an ISP that can do it. I am looking to move my customers to an ISP that can provide this service. | | Mike | | | [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
OT-SES and Fusebox on 6.1
Hello All, I am presently hosting many site with CrystalTech in a shared hosting environment, and they are having a lot of troubles getting SES with fusebox apps to work on 6.1. Is there anyone that has this working with their ISP or work for an ISP that can do it. I am looking to move my customers to an ISP that can provide this service. Mike [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
