RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Lee Fuller

Ok.. Putting on my "board of directors" hat...

So, if I read things properly, we're (at best) about 3700, and at worst
(if you figure 1/2 are simply not active) 900.

To be conservative, we're looking at 3/4 of the actual subscriber base
(not NNTP) as "potential donors".  That makes it about 1400.

After all is said and done, you'll need more than $5000, even with the
wonderful generosity of some who are donating systems (thanks guys!!).
I'm guessing more like $6500.

Simple math says...

6500 / 1400 = $4.64 per subscriber.

Reality is, that's a "perfect world" scenario.  But it also shows that
it's not a huge issue to overcome.

So, I will offer a challenge to all of whom are able to do so.  Donate
$200 to the fund to build up this list.  If you cannot donate $200, then
donate whatever you can.  However, if we cut the number above in 1/2,
it's about $10 each.  If you cut it into 1/4, it's about $20.  So, I'm
willing to pay for 40 of the 1400... Anyone else?

Let's move this forward quickly, and support the person/entity that has
tirelessly supported us.  He deserves it.

Check's on the way Michael, payable to you.

 
Lee Fuller
Chief Technical Officer
PrimeDNA / AAA Web Hosting Corporations
 
 


| -Original Message-
| From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
| Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:01 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: [admin] List status
| 
| 
| Sorry, Judith's sick in bed and I just got into work and 
| online. The list membership for CF-Talk has been down 
| reciently to 1856 members on list. If you add in the NNTP 
| readers, archive readers and all we'd have about double that. 
| This is the reason I want to provide better resources. To get 
| the information to more people through more channels. 
| My goal for the lists are to have them as lists with 
| immediate delivery, digests on the hour on up to once a day. 
| An archive that can be searched and posted from that will 
| include the proper threading (message id and reference id) 
| when a message is posed from them. An NNTP interface so that 
| a post can go from NNTP to the list and the archives in one 
| fell swoop. Finally, a web service interface so that other 
| devices can get the data. 
| This may sound like a lot of work but it's rather easy if 
| done in steps. The staggered digests and the archive are 
| done. Plugging a verity search into that is simple to do and 
| automating parts of it are one of my specialties (I think I 
| use the scheduler more than anyone else around). The posting 
| from the archives to the list is done on the back end and 
| just needs a nice front end for it. I wrote a new CF_MakeTree 
| that's tighter than hell to get the threading done right. 
| NNTP is something that I'm talking to someone about and they 
| can comment on it if they want. Web services is just a quick 
| CFC to the archives with no real front end. 
| Step by step it's being done and will get done. 
| 
| At 11:21 AM 5/15/02, you wrote:
| >Still didn't hear...
| >
| >Michael,
| >
| >How many of us on this list?  And do you have any stats on 
| how many are 
| >"active"?
| >
| >
| >
| 
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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG

Already gave at the paypal office  - in for 75.

-Original Message-
From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:15 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


Ok.. Putting on my "board of directors" hat...

So, if I read things properly, we're (at best) about 3700, and at worst
(if you figure 1/2 are simply not active) 900.

To be conservative, we're looking at 3/4 of the actual subscriber base
(not NNTP) as "potential donors".  That makes it about 1400.

After all is said and done, you'll need more than $5000, even with the
wonderful generosity of some who are donating systems (thanks guys!!).
I'm guessing more like $6500.

Simple math says...

6500 / 1400 = $4.64 per subscriber.

Reality is, that's a "perfect world" scenario.  But it also shows that
it's not a huge issue to overcome.

So, I will offer a challenge to all of whom are able to do so.  Donate
$200 to the fund to build up this list.  If you cannot donate $200, then
donate whatever you can.  However, if we cut the number above in 1/2,
it's about $10 each.  If you cut it into 1/4, it's about $20.  So, I'm
willing to pay for 40 of the 1400... Anyone else?

Let's move this forward quickly, and support the person/entity that has
tirelessly supported us.  He deserves it.

Check's on the way Michael, payable to you.

 
Lee Fuller
Chief Technical Officer
PrimeDNA / AAA Web Hosting Corporations
 
 


| -Original Message-
| From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
| Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:01 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: [admin] List status
| 
| 
| Sorry, Judith's sick in bed and I just got into work and 
| online. The list membership for CF-Talk has been down 
| reciently to 1856 members on list. If you add in the NNTP 
| readers, archive readers and all we'd have about double that. 
| This is the reason I want to provide better resources. To get 
| the information to more people through more channels. 
| My goal for the lists are to have them as lists with 
| immediate delivery, digests on the hour on up to once a day. 
| An archive that can be searched and posted from that will 
| include the proper threading (message id and reference id) 
| when a message is posed from them. An NNTP interface so that 
| a post can go from NNTP to the list and the archives in one 
| fell swoop. Finally, a web service interface so that other 
| devices can get the data. 
| This may sound like a lot of work but it's rather easy if 
| done in steps. The staggered digests and the archive are 
| done. Plugging a verity search into that is simple to do and 
| automating parts of it are one of my specialties (I think I 
| use the scheduler more than anyone else around). The posting 
| from the archives to the list is done on the back end and 
| just needs a nice front end for it. I wrote a new CF_MakeTree 
| that's tighter than hell to get the threading done right. 
| NNTP is something that I'm talking to someone about and they 
| can comment on it if they want. Web services is just a quick 
| CFC to the archives with no real front end. 
| Step by step it's being done and will get done. 
| 
| At 11:21 AM 5/15/02, you wrote:
| >Still didn't hear...
| >
| >Michael,
| >
| >How many of us on this list?  And do you have any stats on 
| how many are 
| >"active"?
| >
| >
| >
| 

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Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Howie Hamlin

Personally, I think that people would be more willing to donate if there was some kind 
of indication as to the toal amount needed
(itemized) and an indicator of the amount donated.  Having some kind of meter would be 
helpful.  Something like:

$10,000 -- Our goal
|
|
$7500
|
|
$5000
|
-- $3500 Donated so far
|
$2500
|
|
--

Also, a list of the top 10 or so contributors would be good.

This way, potential donors could get an idea about what the goal is, how much is 
needed for the goal and the current status.   The
top contributors list would be a good way to thank the people that donated the most.

Regards,

Howie

- Original Message -
From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


> Ok.. Putting on my "board of directors" hat...
>
> So, if I read things properly, we're (at best) about 3700, and at worst
> (if you figure 1/2 are simply not active) 900.
>
> To be conservative, we're looking at 3/4 of the actual subscriber base
> (not NNTP) as "potential donors".  That makes it about 1400.
>
> After all is said and done, you'll need more than $5000, even with the
> wonderful generosity of some who are donating systems (thanks guys!!).
> I'm guessing more like $6500.
>
> Simple math says...
>
> 6500 / 1400 = $4.64 per subscriber.
>
> Reality is, that's a "perfect world" scenario.  But it also shows that
> it's not a huge issue to overcome.
>
> So, I will offer a challenge to all of whom are able to do so.  Donate
> $200 to the fund to build up this list.  If you cannot donate $200, then
> donate whatever you can.  However, if we cut the number above in 1/2,
> it's about $10 each.  If you cut it into 1/4, it's about $20.  So, I'm
> willing to pay for 40 of the 1400... Anyone else?
>
> Let's move this forward quickly, and support the person/entity that has
> tirelessly supported us.  He deserves it.
>
> Check's on the way Michael, payable to you.
>
>
> Lee Fuller
> Chief Technical Officer
> PrimeDNA / AAA Web Hosting Corporations
>
>

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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Robert Forsyth

>>Already gave at the paypal office  - in for 75.


what's the paypal address...I'm in.

Robert Forsyth 
Director of Internet Operations
Allbritton Communications Company (WJLA-TV)
202-364-7831 (direct)
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Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Paul Giesenhagen

I already gave yesterday, but I agree if we knew the costs, we could see
where everyone is at and then add accordingly...  I would be willing to pump
in more money, if I knew where we stood!

Paul Giesenhagen
QuillDesign



> Personally, I think that people would be more willing to donate if there
was some kind of indication as to the toal amount needed
> (itemized) and an indicator of the amount donated.  Having some kind of
meter would be helpful.  Something like:
>
> $10,000 -- Our goal
> |
> |
> $7500
> |
> |
> $5000
> |
> -- $3500 Donated so far
> |
> $2500
> |
> |
> --
>
> Also, a list of the top 10 or so contributors would be good.
>
> This way, potential donors could get an idea about what the goal is, how
much is needed for the goal and the current status.   The
> top contributors list would be a good way to thank the people that donated
the most.
>
> Regards,
>
> Howie
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:14 PM
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> > Ok.. Putting on my "board of directors" hat...
> >
> > So, if I read things properly, we're (at best) about 3700, and at worst
> > (if you figure 1/2 are simply not active) 900.
> >
> > To be conservative, we're looking at 3/4 of the actual subscriber base
> > (not NNTP) as "potential donors".  That makes it about 1400.
> >
> > After all is said and done, you'll need more than $5000, even with the
> > wonderful generosity of some who are donating systems (thanks guys!!).
> > I'm guessing more like $6500.
> >
> > Simple math says...
> >
> > 6500 / 1400 = $4.64 per subscriber.
> >
> > Reality is, that's a "perfect world" scenario.  But it also shows that
> > it's not a huge issue to overcome.
> >
> > So, I will offer a challenge to all of whom are able to do so.  Donate
> > $200 to the fund to build up this list.  If you cannot donate $200, then
> > donate whatever you can.  However, if we cut the number above in 1/2,
> > it's about $10 each.  If you cut it into 1/4, it's about $20.  So, I'm
> > willing to pay for 40 of the 1400... Anyone else?
> >
> > Let's move this forward quickly, and support the person/entity that has
> > tirelessly supported us.  He deserves it.
> >
> > Check's on the way Michael, payable to you.
> >
> >
> > Lee Fuller
> > Chief Technical Officer
> > PrimeDNA / AAA Web Hosting Corporations
> >
> >
>
> 
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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Cantrell, Adam

I propose a 10% cut, payable to myself since I'm the one who got this thread
rolling after all :P

Michael, your list helps in many ways. You should have a new payment in your
pay pal account. Thanks again.

Adam.

ps. My initial post wasn't serious; just in case you had any doubts.



> -Original Message-
> From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:15 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> 
> 
> Ok.. Putting on my "board of directors" hat...
> 
> So, if I read things properly, we're (at best) about 3700, 
> and at worst
> (if you figure 1/2 are simply not active) 900.
> 
> To be conservative, we're looking at 3/4 of the actual subscriber base
> (not NNTP) as "potential donors".  That makes it about 1400.
> 
> After all is said and done, you'll need more than $5000, even with the
> wonderful generosity of some who are donating systems (thanks guys!!).
> I'm guessing more like $6500.
> 
> Simple math says...
> 
>   6500 / 1400 = $4.64 per subscriber.
> 
> Reality is, that's a "perfect world" scenario.  But it also shows that
> it's not a huge issue to overcome.
> 
> So, I will offer a challenge to all of whom are able to do so.  Donate
> $200 to the fund to build up this list.  If you cannot donate 
> $200, then
> donate whatever you can.  However, if we cut the number above in 1/2,
> it's about $10 each.  If you cut it into 1/4, it's about $20.  So, I'm
> willing to pay for 40 of the 1400... Anyone else?
> 
> Let's move this forward quickly, and support the 
> person/entity that has
> tirelessly supported us.  He deserves it.
> 
> Check's on the way Michael, payable to you.
> 
>  
> Lee Fuller
> Chief Technical Officer
> PrimeDNA / AAA Web Hosting Corporations
>  
>  
> 
> 
> | -Original Message-
> | From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> | Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:01 AM
> | To: CF-Talk
> | Subject: RE: [admin] List status
> | 
> | 
> | Sorry, Judith's sick in bed and I just got into work and 
> | online. The list membership for CF-Talk has been down 
> | reciently to 1856 members on list. If you add in the NNTP 
> | readers, archive readers and all we'd have about double that. 
> | This is the reason I want to provide better resources. To get 
> | the information to more people through more channels. 
> | My goal for the lists are to have them as lists with 
> | immediate delivery, digests on the hour on up to once a day. 
> | An archive that can be searched and posted from that will 
> | include the proper threading (message id and reference id) 
> | when a message is posed from them. An NNTP interface so that 
> | a post can go from NNTP to the list and the archives in one 
> | fell swoop. Finally, a web service interface so that other 
> | devices can get the data. 
> | This may sound like a lot of work but it's rather easy if 
> | done in steps. The staggered digests and the archive are 
> | done. Plugging a verity search into that is simple to do and 
> | automating parts of it are one of my specialties (I think I 
> | use the scheduler more than anyone else around). The posting 
> | from the archives to the list is done on the back end and 
> | just needs a nice front end for it. I wrote a new CF_MakeTree 
> | that's tighter than hell to get the threading done right. 
> | NNTP is something that I'm talking to someone about and they 
> | can comment on it if they want. Web services is just a quick 
> | CFC to the archives with no real front end. 
> | Step by step it's being done and will get done. 
> | 
> | At 11:21 AM 5/15/02, you wrote:
> | >Still didn't hear...
> | >
> | >Michael,
> | >
> | >How many of us on this list?  And do you have any stats on 
> | how many are 
> | >"active"?
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | 
> 
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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Lee Fuller

Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )

Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report
on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things,
and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.

Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden".. And
I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we
gain from this list, and ultimately his support.

Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if
anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do
with it.. I'm sure.

Just my .02



| -Original Message-
| From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
| Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:22 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
| 
| 
| Personally, I think that people would be more willing to 
| donate if there was some kind of indication as to the toal 
| amount needed
| (itemized) and an indicator of the amount donated.  Having 
| some kind of meter would be helpful.  Something like:
| 
| $10,000 -- Our goal
| |
| |
| $7500
| |
| |
| $5000
| |
| -- $3500 Donated so far
| |
| $2500
| |
| |
| --
| 
| Also, a list of the top 10 or so contributors would be good.
| 
| This way, potential donors could get an idea about what the 
| goal is, how much is needed for the goal and the current status.   The
| top contributors list would be a good way to thank the people 
| that donated the most.
| 
| Regards,
| 
| Howie
| 
| - Original Message -
| From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:14 PM
| Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
| 
| 
| > Ok.. Putting on my "board of directors" hat...
| >
| > So, if I read things properly, we're (at best) about 3700, and at 
| > worst (if you figure 1/2 are simply not active) 900.
| >
| > To be conservative, we're looking at 3/4 of the actual 
| subscriber base 
| > (not NNTP) as "potential donors".  That makes it about 1400.
| >
| > After all is said and done, you'll need more than $5000, 
| even with the 
| > wonderful generosity of some who are donating systems 
| (thanks guys!!). 
| > I'm guessing more like $6500.
| >
| > Simple math says...
| >
| > 6500 / 1400 = $4.64 per subscriber.
| >
| > Reality is, that's a "perfect world" scenario.  But it also 
| shows that 
| > it's not a huge issue to overcome.
| >
| > So, I will offer a challenge to all of whom are able to do 
| so.  Donate 
| > $200 to the fund to build up this list.  If you cannot donate $200, 
| > then donate whatever you can.  However, if we cut the 
| number above in 
| > 1/2, it's about $10 each.  If you cut it into 1/4, it's about $20.  
| > So, I'm willing to pay for 40 of the 1400... Anyone else?
| >
| > Let's move this forward quickly, and support the person/entity that 
| > has tirelessly supported us.  He deserves it.
| >
| > Check's on the way Michael, payable to you.
| >
| >
| > Lee Fuller
| > Chief Technical Officer
| > PrimeDNA / AAA Web Hosting Corporations
| >
| >
| 
| 
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Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Howie Hamlin

I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone could see that the goal 
was not yet reached then they would be more
inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a goal was 
not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that there were 
enough donations.  If, however, they could see
that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100.

Regards,

Howie

- Original Message -
From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


> Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
>
> Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report
> on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things,
> and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
> group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
>
> Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden".. And
> I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
> receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we
> gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
>
> Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if
> anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do
> with it.. I'm sure.
>
> Just my .02
>


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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Lee Fuller

Very true...  And in retrospect, I agree.

Nonetheless, I think Michael will report whatever he gets.. So it's
proabably a moot issue.



| -Original Message-
| From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
| Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
| 
| 
| I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone 
| could see that the goal was not yet reached then they would 
| be more inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic 
| and need to see that a goal was not reached.  If, say, 
| someone waits a few weeks before donating they may throw in 
| 10 bucks because they may figure that there were enough 
| donations.  If, however, they could see that the donations 
| were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to donate $100.
| 
| Regards,
| 
| Howie
| 
| - Original Message -
| From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
| Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
| 
| 
| > Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
| >
| > Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will 
| > report on what's left after his decisions are made about 
| how to handle things,
| > and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
| > group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
| >
| > Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden".. 
| > And I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, 
| ANYTHING he 
| > receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless 
| information 
| > we gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
| >
| > Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there 
| afterwards, 
| > if anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote 
| on what to 
| > do with it.. I'm sure.
| >
| > Just my .02
| >
| 
| 
| 
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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Ian Lurie

I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: "Our goal is
$5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"

-Original Message-
From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone could see that
the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a
goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that
there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to
donate $100.

Regards,

Howie

- Original Message -
From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


> Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
>
> Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report
> on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things,
> and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
> group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
>
> Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden".. And
> I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
> receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we
> gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
>
> Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if
> anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do
> with it.. I'm sure.
>
> Just my .02
>



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Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Michael Dinowitz

An indicator of what's been given is a good idea. I'm not so hot on publishing who 
gave or not for a simple reason, I don't want anyone to feel bad about not giving or 
giving less than anyone else. Despite my reputation as the evil one (blessed be me), I 
do care about others feelings. :)

At 12:21 PM 5/15/02, you wrote:
>Personally, I think that people would be more willing to donate if there was some 
>kind of indication as to the toal amount needed
>(itemized) and an indicator of the amount donated.  Having some kind of meter would 
>be helpful.  Something like:
>
>$10,000 -- Our goal
>|
>|
>$7500
>|
>|
>$5000
>|
>-- $3500 Donated so far
>|
>$2500
>|
>|
>--
>
>Also, a list of the top 10 or so contributors would be good.
>
>This way, potential donors could get an idea about what the goal is, how much is 
>needed for the goal and the current status.   The
>top contributors list would be a good way to thank the people that donated the most.
>
>Regards,
>
>Howie
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:14 PM
>Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
>> Ok.. Putting on my "board of directors" hat...
>>
>> So, if I read things properly, we're (at best) about 3700, and at worst
>> (if you figure 1/2 are simply not active) 900.
>>
>> To be conservative, we're looking at 3/4 of the actual subscriber base
>> (not NNTP) as "potential donors".  That makes it about 1400.
>>
>> After all is said and done, you'll need more than $5000, even with the
>> wonderful generosity of some who are donating systems (thanks guys!!).
>> I'm guessing more like $6500.
>>
>> Simple math says...
>>
>> 6500 / 1400 = $4.64 per subscriber.
>>
>> Reality is, that's a "perfect world" scenario.  But it also shows that
>> it's not a huge issue to overcome.
>>
>> So, I will offer a challenge to all of whom are able to do so.  Donate
>> $200 to the fund to build up this list.  If you cannot donate $200, then
>> donate whatever you can.  However, if we cut the number above in 1/2,
>> it's about $10 each.  If you cut it into 1/4, it's about $20.  So, I'm
>> willing to pay for 40 of the 1400... Anyone else?
>>
>> Let's move this forward quickly, and support the person/entity that has
>> tirelessly supported us.  He deserves it.
>>
>> Check's on the way Michael, payable to you.
>>
>>
>> Lee Fuller
>> Chief Technical Officer
>> PrimeDNA / AAA Web Hosting Corporations
>>
>>
>
>
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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Tony Gruen

uh - excuse, I started this thread. I also just offered Michael hosting and
a dedicated machine in outr environment.

Tony Gruen

-Original Message-
From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:25 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


I propose a 10% cut, payable to myself since I'm the one who got this thread
rolling after all :P

Michael, your list helps in many ways. You should have a new payment in your
pay pal account. Thanks again.

Adam.

ps. My initial post wasn't serious; just in case you had any doubts.



> -Original Message-
> From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:15 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> Ok.. Putting on my "board of directors" hat...
>
> So, if I read things properly, we're (at best) about 3700,
> and at worst
> (if you figure 1/2 are simply not active) 900.
>
> To be conservative, we're looking at 3/4 of the actual subscriber base
> (not NNTP) as "potential donors".  That makes it about 1400.
>
> After all is said and done, you'll need more than $5000, even with the
> wonderful generosity of some who are donating systems (thanks guys!!).
> I'm guessing more like $6500.
>
> Simple math says...
>
>   6500 / 1400 = $4.64 per subscriber.
>
> Reality is, that's a "perfect world" scenario.  But it also shows that
> it's not a huge issue to overcome.
>
> So, I will offer a challenge to all of whom are able to do so.  Donate
> $200 to the fund to build up this list.  If you cannot donate
> $200, then
> donate whatever you can.  However, if we cut the number above in 1/2,
> it's about $10 each.  If you cut it into 1/4, it's about $20.  So, I'm
> willing to pay for 40 of the 1400... Anyone else?
>
> Let's move this forward quickly, and support the
> person/entity that has
> tirelessly supported us.  He deserves it.
>
> Check's on the way Michael, payable to you.
>
>
> Lee Fuller
> Chief Technical Officer
> PrimeDNA / AAA Web Hosting Corporations
>
>
>
>
> | -Original Message-
> | From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> | Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:01 AM
> | To: CF-Talk
> | Subject: RE: [admin] List status
> |
> |
> | Sorry, Judith's sick in bed and I just got into work and
> | online. The list membership for CF-Talk has been down
> | reciently to 1856 members on list. If you add in the NNTP
> | readers, archive readers and all we'd have about double that.
> | This is the reason I want to provide better resources. To get
> | the information to more people through more channels.
> | My goal for the lists are to have them as lists with
> | immediate delivery, digests on the hour on up to once a day.
> | An archive that can be searched and posted from that will
> | include the proper threading (message id and reference id)
> | when a message is posed from them. An NNTP interface so that
> | a post can go from NNTP to the list and the archives in one
> | fell swoop. Finally, a web service interface so that other
> | devices can get the data.
> | This may sound like a lot of work but it's rather easy if
> | done in steps. The staggered digests and the archive are
> | done. Plugging a verity search into that is simple to do and
> | automating parts of it are one of my specialties (I think I
> | use the scheduler more than anyone else around). The posting
> | from the archives to the list is done on the back end and
> | just needs a nice front end for it. I wrote a new CF_MakeTree
> | that's tighter than hell to get the threading done right.
> | NNTP is something that I'm talking to someone about and they
> | can comment on it if they want. Web services is just a quick
> | CFC to the archives with no real front end.
> | Step by step it's being done and will get done.
> |
> | At 11:21 AM 5/15/02, you wrote:
> | >Still didn't hear...
> | >
> | >Michael,
> | >
> | >How many of us on this list?  And do you have any stats on
> | how many are
> | >"active"?
> | >
> | >
> | >
> |
>

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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG

Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will get back to
the news .

-Original Message-
From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR: "Our goal is
$5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"

-Original Message-
From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone could see that
the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a
goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that
there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to
donate $100.

Regards,

Howie

- Original Message -
From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


> Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
>
> Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report
> on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things,
> and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
> group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
>
> Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden".. And
> I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
> receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we
> gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
>
> Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if
> anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do
> with it.. I'm sure.
>
> Just my .02
>




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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread David Schmidt

Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or
license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?



> -Original Message-
> From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
> get back to
> the news .
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
> "Our goal is
> $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
> could see that
> the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
> inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a
> goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
> before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that
> there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
> that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to
> donate $100.
>
> Regards,
>
> Howie
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> > Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
> >
> > Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report
> > on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things,
> > and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
> > group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden".. And
> > I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
> > receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we
> > gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
> >
> > Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if
> > anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do
> > with it.. I'm sure.
> >
> > Just my .02
> >
>
>
>
>
> 
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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG

No but you do get a copy of Bob Edwards new book "My voice is smoother than
yours".

-Original Message-
From: David Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 12:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or
license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?



> -Original Message-
> From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
> get back to
> the news .
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
> "Our goal is
> $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
> could see that
> the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
> inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a
> goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
> before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that
> there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
> that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to
> donate $100.
>
> Regards,
>
> Howie
>
> ----- Original Message -
> From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> > Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
> >
> > Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report
> > on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things,
> > and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
> > group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden".. And
> > I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
> > receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we
> > gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
> >
> > Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if
> > anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do
> > with it.. I'm sure.
> >
> > Just my .02
> >
>
>
>
>
>

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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Tony Schreiber

I missed the part where someone mentioned a paypal address?

> Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or
> license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >
> >
> > Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
> > get back to
> > the news .
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >
> >
> > I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
> > "Our goal is
> > $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
> >
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >
> >
> > I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
> > could see that
> > the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
> > inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a
> > goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
> > before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that
> > there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
> > that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to
> > donate $100.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Howie
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
> > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >
> >
> > > Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
> > >
> > > Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report
> > > on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things,
> > > and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
> > > group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
> > >
> > > Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden".. And
> > > I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
> > > receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we
> > > gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
> > >
> > > Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if
> > > anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do
> > > with it.. I'm sure.
> > >
> > > Just my .02
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Kevin Schmidt

Or you can get "My Voice Annoys the Hell Out of You" by Diane Rheim

-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

No but you do get a copy of Bob Edwards new book "My voice is smoother
than
yours".

-Original Message-
From: David Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 12:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug,
or
license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?



> -Original Message-
> From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
> get back to
> the news .
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
> "Our goal is
> $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
> could see that
> the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
> inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see
that a
> goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
> before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure
that
> there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
> that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined
to
> donate $100.
>
> Regards,
>
> Howie
>
> ----- Original Message -
> From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> > Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
> >
> > Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will
report
> > on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle
things,
> > and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
> > group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden"..
And
> > I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
> > receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless
information we
> > gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
> >
> > Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards,
if
> > anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do
> > with it.. I'm sure.
> >
> > Just my .02
> >
>
>
>
>
>


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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Kevin Miller

We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been consuming that gift.

Kevin

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM >>>
Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or
license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?



> -Original Message-
> From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
> get back to
> the news .
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
> "Our goal is
> $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
> could see that
> the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
> inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a
> goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
> before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that
> there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
> that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to
> donate $100.
>
> Regards,
>
> Howie
>
> ----- Original Message -
> From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> > Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
> >
> > Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report
> > on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things,
> > and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
> > group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden".. And
> > I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
> > receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we
> > gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
> >
> > Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if
> > anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do
> > with it.. I'm sure.
> >
> > Just my .02
> >
>
>
>
>
> 

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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Rick Walters

Perhaps we should start planning the "CF-Talk Expo" here in Florida? 

Good Fortune,
Richard Walters,
Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(800) 604-5227 x 3525

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM >>>
We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been
consuming that gift.

Kevin

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM >>>
Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug,
or
license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?



> -Original Message-
> From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
> get back to
> the news .
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
> "Our goal is
> $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
> could see that
> the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
> inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see
that a
> goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
> before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure
that
> there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
> that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be
inclined to
> donate $100.
>
> Regards,
>
> Howie
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> > Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
> >
> > Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will
report
> > on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle
things,
> > and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
> > group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden"..
And
> > I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
> > receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless
information we
> > gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
> >
> > Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there
afterwards, if
> > anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to
do
> > with it.. I'm sure.
> >
> > Just my .02
> >
>
>
>
>
> 


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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Michael Dinowitz

https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=mdinowit%40i-2000.com
We're currently at $378.23

At 01:23 PM 5/15/02, you wrote:
>I missed the part where someone mentioned a paypal address?
>
>> Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or
>> license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?
>>
>>
>>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
>> > To: CF-Talk
>> > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>> >
>> >
>> > Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
>> > get back to
>> > the news .
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-
>> > From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
>> > To: CF-Talk
>> > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>> >
>> >
>> > I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
>> > "Our goal is
>> > $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
>> > To: CF-Talk
>> > Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>> >
>> >
>> > I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
>> > could see that
>> > the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
>> > inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a
>> > goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
>> > before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that
>> > there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
>> > that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to
>> > donate $100.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Howie
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
>> > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>> >
>> >
>> > > Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
>> > >
>> > > Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report
>> > > on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things,
>> > > and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
>> > > group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
>> > >
>> > > Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden".. And
>> > > I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
>> > > receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we
>> > > gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
>> > >
>> > > Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if
>> > > anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do
>> > > with it.. I'm sure.
>> > >
>> > > Just my .02
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> 
>
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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread cstredway

I sent my $10.. I am thankful for this list and the 
services that Michael provides.

--
Clint Tredway
--
Through Him, anything is possible.
> https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=mdinowit%40i-2000.com
> We're currently at $378.23
> 
> At 01:23 PM 5/15/02, you wrote:
> >I missed the part where someone mentioned a paypal address?
> >
> >> Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug, or
> >> license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
> >> > To: CF-Talk
> >> > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
> >> > get back to
> >> > the news .
> >> >
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
> >> > To: CF-Talk
> >> > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
> >> > "Our goal is
> >> > $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
> >> >
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
> >> > To: CF-Talk
> >> > Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
> >> > could see that
> >> > the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
> >> > inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see that a
> >> > goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
> >> > before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure that
> >> > there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
> >> > that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be inclined to
> >> > donate $100.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Howie
> >> >
> >> > - Original Message -
> >> > From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
> >> > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
> >> > >
> >> > > Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will report
> >> > > on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle things,
> >> > > and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
> >> > > group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
> >> > >
> >> > > Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden".. And
> >> > > I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
> >> > > receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless information we
> >> > > gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
> >> > >
> >> > > Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there afterwards, if
> >> > > anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to do
> >> > > with it.. I'm sure.
> >> > >
> >> > > Just my .02
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> 
> >
> 
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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Shawn Grover

Nah, go exotic, bring it north... to Calgary... then I don't have to travel
so farLOL

But then again, Florida sounds nice.. h  business trip maybe.

Shawn Grover

-Original Message-
From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


Perhaps we should start planning the "CF-Talk Expo" here in Florida?

Good Fortune,
Richard Walters,
Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(800) 604-5227 x 3525

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM >>>
We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been
consuming that gift.

Kevin

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM >>>
Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug,
or
license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?



> -Original Message-
> From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
> get back to
> the news .
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
> "Our goal is
> $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
> could see that
> the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
> inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see
that a
> goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
> before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure
that
> there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
> that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be
inclined to
> donate $100.
>
> Regards,
>
> Howie
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> > Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
> >
> > Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will
report
> > on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle
things,
> > and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
> > group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden"..
And
> > I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
> > receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless
information we
> > gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
> >
> > Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there
afterwards, if
> > anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to
do
> > with it.. I'm sure.
> >
> > Just my .02
> >
>
>
>
>
>



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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Ryan Pieszak

No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth.  What about
Buffalo, NY?

-Original Message-
From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


Perhaps we should start planning the "CF-Talk Expo" here in Florida? 

Good Fortune,
Richard Walters,
Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(800) 604-5227 x 3525

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM >>>
We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been
consuming that gift.

Kevin

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM >>>
Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug,
or
license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?



> -Original Message-
> From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
> get back to
> the news .
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
> "Our goal is
> $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
> could see that
> the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
> inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see
that a
> goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
> before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure
that
> there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
> that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be
inclined to
> donate $100.
>
> Regards,
>
> Howie
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> > Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
> >
> > Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will
report
> > on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle
things,
> > and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
> > group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden"..
And
> > I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
> > receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless
information we
> > gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
> >
> > Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there
afterwards, if
> > anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to
do
> > with it.. I'm sure.
> >
> > Just my .02
> >
>
>
>
>
> 



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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Michael Dinowitz

Actually, we ran the community suite at the last MM conference and will be doing the 
same this year. For those who missed it, we had food, games, community speakers, about 
60 or so books to raffle off and a reading library with over 20 titles. It was a 
blast! Of course, I have a standing offer to speak anywhere I am or can be brought to. 
I'll probably be in Florida around July 8th

At 01:47 PM 5/15/02, you wrote:
>Perhaps we should start planning the "CF-Talk Expo" here in Florida? 
>
>Good Fortune,
>Richard Walters,
>Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>(800) 604-5227 x 3525
>
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM >>>
>We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been
>consuming that gift.
>
>Kevin
>
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM >>>
>Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug,
>or
>license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?
>
>
>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>>
>>
>> Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
>> get back to
>> the news .
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>>
>>
>> I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
>> "Our goal is
>> $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>>
>>
>> I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
>> could see that
>> the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
>> inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see
>that a
>> goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
>> before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure
>that
>> there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
>> that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be
>inclined to
>> donate $100.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Howie
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
>> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>>
>>
>> > Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
>> >
>> > Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will
>report
>> > on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle
>things,
>> > and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
>> > group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
>> >
>> > Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden"..
>And
>> > I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
>> > receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless
>information we
>> > gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
>> >
>> > Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there
>afterwards, if
>> > anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to
>do
>> > with it.. I'm sure.
>> >
>> > Just my .02
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>
>
>
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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Michael Dinowitz

How long does it take to get there by train from Manhatten?

At 02:07 PM 5/15/02, you wrote:
>No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth.  What about
>Buffalo, NY?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
>Perhaps we should start planning the "CF-Talk Expo" here in Florida? 
>
>Good Fortune,
>Richard Walters,
>Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>(800) 604-5227 x 3525
>
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM >>>
>We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been
>consuming that gift.
>
>Kevin
>
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM >>>
>Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug,
>or
>license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>>
>>
>> Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
>> get back to
>> the news .
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>>
>>
>> I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
>> "Our goal is
>> $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>>
>>
>> I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
>> could see that
>> the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
>> inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see
>that a
>> goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
>> before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure
>that
>> there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
>> that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be
>inclined to
>> donate $100.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Howie
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
>> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>>
>>
>> > Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
>> >
>> > Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will
>report
>> > on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle
>things,
>> > and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
>> > group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
>> >
>> > Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden"..
>And
>> > I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
>> > receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless
>information we
>> > gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
>> >
>> > Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there
>afterwards, if
>> > anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to
>do
>> > with it.. I'm sure.
>> >
>> > Just my .02
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>
>
>
>
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Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Hatton Humphrey

It'd be great for me there... better than everything running to Rochester ;)

Hatton

(in Snyder)

Ryan Pieszak wrote:

> No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth.  What about
> Buffalo, NY?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> 
> 
> Perhaps we should start planning the "CF-Talk Expo" here in Florida? 
> 
> Good Fortune,
> Richard Walters,
> Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (800) 604-5227 x 3525
> 
> 
>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM >>>
>>>>
> We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been
> consuming that gift.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> 
>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM >>>
>>>>
> Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug,
> or
> license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>>
>>
>>Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
>>get back to
>>the news .
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>>
>>
>>I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
>>"Our goal is
>>$5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>>
>>
>>I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
>>could see that
>>the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
>>inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see
>>
> that a
> 
>>goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
>>before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure
>>
> that
> 
>>there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
>>that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be
>>
> inclined to
> 
>>donate $100.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Howie
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
>>Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>>
>>
>>
>>>Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
>>>
>>>Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will
>>>
> report
> 
>>>on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle
>>>
> things,
> 
>>>and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
>>>group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
>>>
>>>Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden"..
>>>
> And
> 
>>>I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
>>>receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless
>>>
> information we
> 
>>>gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
>>>
>>>Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there
>>>
> afterwards, if
> 
>>>anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to
>>>
> do
> 
>>>with it.. I'm sure.
>>>
>>>Just my .02
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Howie Hamlin

There was also a lot of "bouncy bouncy" at the community suite, if I recall...



- Original Message -
From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:12 PM
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


> Actually, we ran the community suite at the last MM conference and will be doing the 
>same this year. For those who missed it, we
had food, games, community speakers, about 60 or so books to raffle off and a reading 
library with over 20 titles. It was a blast!
Of course, I have a standing offer to speak anywhere I am or can be brought to. I'll 
probably be in Florida around July 8th
>


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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Rick Walters

What are you afraid of:  terrorists, hurricaines, train derailments,
voting scandals, tourist taxes, water shortages, impossible traffic,
lightning, speaking spanish, Jimmy Buffet, or sunburn?  Certainly
there's nothing wrong with Florida that Jeb Bush or Janet Reno can't
fix.  It helps if you say that over and over.

Good Fortune,
Richard Walters,
Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(800) 604-5227 x 3525

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 02:07PM >>>
No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth.  What
about
Buffalo, NY?

-Original Message-
From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


Perhaps we should start planning the "CF-Talk Expo" here in Florida? 

Good Fortune,
Richard Walters,
Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(800) 604-5227 x 3525

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM >>>
We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been
consuming that gift.

Kevin

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM >>>
Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug,
or
license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?



> -Original Message-
> From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
> get back to
> the news .
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
> "Our goal is
> $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
> could see that
> the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
> inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see
that a
> goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
> before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure
that
> there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
> that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be
inclined to
> donate $100.
>
> Regards,
>
> Howie
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> > Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
> >
> > Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will
report
> > on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle
things,
> > and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
> > group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be
"hidden"..
And
> > I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
> > receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless
information we
> > gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
> >
> > Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there
afterwards, if
> > anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to
do
> > with it.. I'm sure.
> >
> > Just my .02
> >
>
>
>
>
> 




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Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Paul Giesenhagen

hmmm??  When is the MM Confrence this year?

Paul Giesenhagen
QuillDesign



> There was also a lot of "bouncy bouncy" at the community suite, if I
recall...
>
> 
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:12 PM
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> > Actually, we ran the community suite at the last MM conference and will
be doing the same this year. For those who missed it, we
> had food, games, community speakers, about 60 or so books to raffle off
and a reading library with over 20 titles. It was a blast!
> Of course, I have a standing offer to speak anywhere I am or can be
brought to. I'll probably be in Florida around July 8th
> >
>
>
> 
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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Timothy Heald

I went by train from Orlando to NY back in like 93.  I think it took like 30
hours.

Tim Heald
ACP/CCFD :)
Application Development
www.schoollink.net

> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:15 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> How long does it take to get there by train from Manhatten?
>
> At 02:07 PM 5/15/02, you wrote:
> >No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth.
>  What about
> >Buffalo, NY?
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM
> >To: CF-Talk
> >Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >
> >
> >Perhaps we should start planning the "CF-Talk Expo" here in Florida?
> >
> >Good Fortune,
> >Richard Walters,
> >Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >(800) 604-5227 x 3525
> >
> >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM >>>
> >We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been
> >consuming that gift.
> >
> >Kevin
> >
> >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM >>>
> >Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug,
> >or
> >license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?
> >
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
> >> To: CF-Talk
> >> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >>
> >>
> >> Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
> >> get back to
> >> the news .
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
> >> To: CF-Talk
> >> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >>
> >>
> >> I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
> >> "Our goal is
> >> $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
> >> To: CF-Talk
> >> Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >>
> >>
> >> I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
> >> could see that
> >> the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
> >> inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see
> >that a
> >> goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
> >> before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure
> >that
> >> there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
> >> that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be
> >inclined to
> >> donate $100.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Howie
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
> >> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >>
> >>
> >> > Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
> >> >
> >> > Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will
> >report
> >> > on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle
> >things,
> >> > and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
> >> > group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
> >> >
> >> > Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden"..
> >And
> >> > I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
> >> > receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless
> >information we
> >> > gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
> >> >
> >> > Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there
> >afterwards, if
> >> > anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to
> >do
> >> > with it.. I'm sure.
> >> >
> >> > Just my .02
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Jon Hall

There is a new higher res version out now... :)

- Original Message -
From: "Howie Hamlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


> There was also a lot of "bouncy bouncy" at the community suite, if I
recall...
>
> 


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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Kevin Schmidt

Actually I am afraid of getting run over by one of the thousands of old
people driving that can't see 10 feet in front of themselves and can't
remember where they are going.  

-Original Message-
From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

What are you afraid of:  terrorists, hurricaines, train derailments,
voting scandals, tourist taxes, water shortages, impossible traffic,
lightning, speaking spanish, Jimmy Buffet, or sunburn?  Certainly
there's nothing wrong with Florida that Jeb Bush or Janet Reno can't
fix.  It helps if you say that over and over.

Good Fortune,
Richard Walters,
Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(800) 604-5227 x 3525

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 02:07PM >>>
No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth.  What
about
Buffalo, NY?

-Original Message-
From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


Perhaps we should start planning the "CF-Talk Expo" here in Florida? 

Good Fortune,
Richard Walters,
Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(800) 604-5227 x 3525

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM >>>
We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been
consuming that gift.

Kevin

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM >>>
Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug,
or
license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?



> -Original Message-
> From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
> get back to
> the news .
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
> "Our goal is
> $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
> could see that
> the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
> inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see
that a
> goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
> before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure
that
> there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
> that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be
inclined to
> donate $100.
>
> Regards,
>
> Howie
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> > Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
> >
> > Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will
report
> > on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle
things,
> > and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
> > group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be
"hidden"..
And
> > I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
> > receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless
information we
> > gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
> >
> > Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there
afterwards, if
> > anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to
do
> > with it.. I'm sure.
> >
> > Just my .02
> >
>
>
>
>
> 





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Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Howie Hamlin

October 27...

http://www.macromedia.com/v1/conference/

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Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


> hmmm??  When is the MM Confrence this year?
> 
> Paul Giesenhagen
> QuillDesign
> 

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Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Michael Dinowitz

That was the most surprising part of it all. We turned the game on and a female 
programmer walked through the door every time. And no one was upset or anything about 
the content. It was just a place to 'hang' with your people. 

At 02:17 PM 5/15/02, you wrote:
>There was also a lot of "bouncy bouncy" at the community suite, if I recall...
>
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:12 PM
>Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
>> Actually, we ran the community suite at the last MM conference and will be doing 
>the same this year. For those who missed it, we
>had food, games, community speakers, about 60 or so books to raffle off and a reading 
>library with over 20 titles. It was a blast!
>Of course, I have a standing offer to speak anywhere I am or can be brought to. I'll 
>probably be in Florida around July 8th
>>
>
>
>
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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Ryan Pieszak

Actually, I wasn't serious.  The big joke here in Buffalo is that nobody
comes here on purpose, that nobody wants to be here, it's a rotting city.
If anybody *actually* wants this CF-Talk Expo to be held in Buffalo, you'll
have to let me know what you need.  Is this something that's been done in
the past?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


It'd be great for me there... better than everything running to Rochester ;)

Hatton

(in Snyder)

Ryan Pieszak wrote:

> No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth.  What
about
> Buffalo, NY?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> 
> 
> Perhaps we should start planning the "CF-Talk Expo" here in Florida? 
> 
> Good Fortune,
> Richard Walters,
> Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (800) 604-5227 x 3525
> 
> 
>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM >>>
>>>>
> We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been
> consuming that gift.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> 
>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM >>>
>>>>
> Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug,
> or
> license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>>
>>
>>Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
>>get back to
>>the news .
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>>
>>
>>I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
>>"Our goal is
>>$5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>>
>>
>>I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
>>could see that
>>the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
>>inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see
>>
> that a
> 
>>goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
>>before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure
>>
> that
> 
>>there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
>>that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be
>>
> inclined to
> 
>>donate $100.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Howie
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
>>Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>>
>>
>>
>>>Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
>>>
>>>Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will
>>>
> report
> 
>>>on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle
>>>
> things,
> 
>>>and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
>>>group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
>>>
>>>Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden"..
>>>
> And
> 
>>>I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
>>>receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless
>>>
> information we
> 
>>>gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
>>>
>>>Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there
>>>
> afterwards, if
> 
>>>anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to
>>>
> do
> 
>>>with it.. I'm sure.
>>>
>>>Just my .02
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Douglas Brown

Yeah the only thing worth it in Buffalo "was" the Rob Johnson, Doug Flutie
controversyand I dont even live there :)





- Original Message -
From: "Ryan Pieszak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:28 AM
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


> Actually, I wasn't serious.  The big joke here in Buffalo is that nobody
> comes here on purpose, that nobody wants to be here, it's a rotting city.
> If anybody *actually* wants this CF-Talk Expo to be held in Buffalo,
you'll
> have to let me know what you need.  Is this something that's been done in
> the past?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:15 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> It'd be great for me there... better than everything running to Rochester
;)
>
> Hatton
>
> (in Snyder)
>
> Ryan Pieszak wrote:
>
> > No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth.  What
> about
> > Buffalo, NY?
> >
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >
> >
> > Perhaps we should start planning the "CF-Talk Expo" here in Florida?
> >
> > Good Fortune,
> > Richard Walters,
> > Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > (800) 604-5227 x 3525
> >
> >
> >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM >>>
> >>>>
> > We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been
> > consuming that gift.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM >>>
> >>>>
> > Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug,
> > or
> > license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
> >>To: CF-Talk
> >>Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >>
> >>
> >>Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
> >>get back to
> >>the news .
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
> >>To: CF-Talk
> >>Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >>
> >>
> >>I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
> >>"Our goal is
> >>$5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
> >>To: CF-Talk
> >>Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >>
> >>
> >>I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
> >>could see that
> >>the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
> >>inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see
> >>
> > that a
> >
> >>goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
> >>before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure
> >>
> > that
> >
> >>there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
> >>that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be
> >>
> > inclined to
> >
> >>donate $100.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>Howie
> >>
> >>- Original Message -
> >>From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
> >>Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
> >>>
> >>>Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will
> >>>
> > report
> >
> >>>on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle
> >>>
> > things,
> >
> >>>and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
> >>>group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
> >>>
> >>>Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden"..
> >>>
> > And
> >
> >>>I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
> >>>receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless
> >>>
> > information we
> >
> >>>gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
> >>>
> >>>Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there
> >>>
> > afterwards, if
> >
> >>>anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to
> >>>
> > do
> >
> >>>with it.. I'm sure.
> >>>
> >>>Just my .02
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 
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Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Michael Dinowitz

http://www.macromedia.com/v1/conference/
October 27-30, 2002

At 02:22 PM 5/15/02, you wrote:
>hmmm??  When is the MM Confrence this year?
>
>Paul Giesenhagen
>QuillDesign
>
>
>
>> There was also a lot of "bouncy bouncy" at the community suite, if I
>recall...
>>
>> 
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:12 PM
>> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>>
>>
>> > Actually, we ran the community suite at the last MM conference and will
>be doing the same this year. For those who missed it, we
>> had food, games, community speakers, about 60 or so books to raffle off
>and a reading library with over 20 titles. It was a blast!
>> Of course, I have a standing offer to speak anywhere I am or can be
>brought to. I'll probably be in Florida around July 8th
>> >
>>
>>
>> 
>
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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Ryan Pieszak

Yeah, we're glad those days are FAR behind us.  Now we're looking Super Bowl
with Bledsoe in charge.  But this is off topic, sorry...
Real question now...where can I send a payment for this list if I'm not part
of PayPal?  Maybe just send a personal check or something?  Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


Yeah the only thing worth it in Buffalo "was" the Rob Johnson, Doug Flutie
controversyand I dont even live there :)





- Original Message -
From: "Ryan Pieszak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:28 AM
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


> Actually, I wasn't serious.  The big joke here in Buffalo is that nobody
> comes here on purpose, that nobody wants to be here, it's a rotting city.
> If anybody *actually* wants this CF-Talk Expo to be held in Buffalo,
you'll
> have to let me know what you need.  Is this something that's been done in
> the past?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:15 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> It'd be great for me there... better than everything running to Rochester
;)
>
> Hatton
>
> (in Snyder)
>
> Ryan Pieszak wrote:
>
> > No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth.  What
> about
> > Buffalo, NY?
> >
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >
> >
> > Perhaps we should start planning the "CF-Talk Expo" here in Florida?
> >
> > Good Fortune,
> > Richard Walters,
> > Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > (800) 604-5227 x 3525
> >
> >
> >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM >>>
> >>>>
> > We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been
> > consuming that gift.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM >>>
> >>>>
> > Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug,
> > or
> > license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>-Original Message-----
> >>From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
> >>To: CF-Talk
> >>Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >>
> >>
> >>Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
> >>get back to
> >>the news .
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
> >>To: CF-Talk
> >>Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >>
> >>
> >>I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
> >>"Our goal is
> >>$5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
> >>To: CF-Talk
> >>Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >>
> >>
> >>I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
> >>could see that
> >>the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
> >>inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see
> >>
> > that a
> >
> >>goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
> >>before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure
> >>
> > that
> >
> >>there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
> >>that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be
> >>
> > inclined to
> >
> >>donate $100.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>Howie
> >>
> >>- Original Message -
> >>From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
&

Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Michael Ross

Buffalo "the armpit of America" even Clevelands better than buffalo.well just 
barely



>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 02:36PM >>>
Yeah the only thing worth it in Buffalo "was" the Rob Johnson, Doug Flutie
controversyand I dont even live there :)





- Original Message -
From: "Ryan Pieszak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:28 AM
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


> Actually, I wasn't serious.  The big joke here in Buffalo is that nobody
> comes here on purpose, that nobody wants to be here, it's a rotting city.
> If anybody *actually* wants this CF-Talk Expo to be held in Buffalo,
you'll
> have to let me know what you need.  Is this something that's been done in
> the past?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:15 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> It'd be great for me there... better than everything running to Rochester
;)
>
> Hatton
>
> (in Snyder)
>
> Ryan Pieszak wrote:
>
> > No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth.  What
> about
> > Buffalo, NY?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >
> >
> > Perhaps we should start planning the "CF-Talk Expo" here in Florida?
> >
> > Good Fortune,
> > Richard Walters,
> > Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > (800) 604-5227 x 3525
> >
> >
> >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM >>>
> >>>>
> > We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been
> > consuming that gift.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM >>>
> >>>>
> > Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug,
> > or
> > license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-
> >>From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> >>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
> >>To: CF-Talk
> >>Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >>
> >>
> >>Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
> >>get back to
> >>the news .
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> >>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
> >>To: CF-Talk
> >>Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >>
> >>
> >>I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
> >>"Our goal is
> >>$5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> >>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
> >>To: CF-Talk
> >>Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >>
> >>
> >>I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
> >>could see that
> >>the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
> >>inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see
> >>
> > that a
> >
> >>goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
> >>before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure
> >>
> > that
> >
> >>there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
> >>that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be
> >>
> > inclined to
> >
> >>donate $100.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>Howie
> >>
> >>- Original Message -
> >>From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
> >>Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
> >>>
> >>>Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will
> >>>
> > report
> >
> >>>on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle
> >>>
> > things,
> >
> >>>and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
> >>>group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
> >>>
> >>>Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden"..
> >>>
> > And
> >
> >>>I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
> >>>receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless
> >>>
> > information we
> >
> >>>gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
> >>>
> >>>Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there
> >>>
> > afterwards, if
> >
> >>>anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to
> >>>
> > do
> >
> >>>with it.. I'm sure.
> >>>
> >>>Just my .02
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Robert Forsyth

I spent a lifetime in Buffalo one Saturday...


-Original Message-
From: Michael Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:54 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


Buffalo "the armpit of America" even Clevelands better than buffalo.well
just barely

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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Ryan Pieszak

Wow, I thought only Buffalonians called our city that.  Time for me to
move...

-Original Message-
From: Michael Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:54 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


Buffalo "the armpit of America" even Clevelands better than buffalo.well
just barely



>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 02:36PM >>>
Yeah the only thing worth it in Buffalo "was" the Rob Johnson, Doug Flutie
controversyand I dont even live there :)





- Original Message -
From: "Ryan Pieszak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:28 AM
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


> Actually, I wasn't serious.  The big joke here in Buffalo is that nobody
> comes here on purpose, that nobody wants to be here, it's a rotting city.
> If anybody *actually* wants this CF-Talk Expo to be held in Buffalo,
you'll
> have to let me know what you need.  Is this something that's been done in
> the past?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:15 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> It'd be great for me there... better than everything running to Rochester
;)
>
> Hatton
>
> (in Snyder)
>
> Ryan Pieszak wrote:
>
> > No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth.  What
> about
> > Buffalo, NY?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >
> >
> > Perhaps we should start planning the "CF-Talk Expo" here in Florida?
> >
> > Good Fortune,
> > Richard Walters,
> > Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > (800) 604-5227 x 3525
> >
> >
> >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM >>>
> >>>>
> > We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been
> > consuming that gift.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM >>>
> >>>>
> > Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug,
> > or
> > license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-
> >>From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> >>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
> >>To: CF-Talk
> >>Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >>
> >>
> >>Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
> >>get back to
> >>the news .
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> >>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
> >>To: CF-Talk
> >>Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >>
> >>
> >>I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
> >>"Our goal is
> >>$5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> >>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
> >>To: CF-Talk
> >>Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >>
> >>
> >>I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
> >>could see that
> >>the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
> >>inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see
> >>
> > that a
> >
> >>goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
> >>before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure
> >>
> > that
> >
> >>there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
> >>that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be
> >>
> > inclined to
> >
> >>donate $100.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>Howie
> >>
> >>- Original Message -
> >>From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
> >>Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Don't agree.. (a first for me and you H

RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Sicular, Alexander

Sorry , but "armpit of america" status belongs to east lansing, michigan.
Believe me , I spent two years there and yes, we did call it "the armpit of
america".



Alexander Sicular
Chief Technology Architect
Neurological Institute of New York
Columbia University
as867 [at] columbia {dot} edu


|-Original Message-
|From: Robert Forsyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
|Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:00 PM
|To: CF-Talk
|Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
|
|
|I spent a lifetime in Buffalo one Saturday...
|
|
|-Original Message-
|From: Michael Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:54 PM
|To: CF-Talk
|Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
|
|
|Buffalo "the armpit of America" even Clevelands better than 
|buffalo.well just barely
|
|
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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Kevin Schmidt

Hey, I lived in East Lansing, Okemos, for while and I didn't think it
was an armpit, nor did I call it that.


-Original Message-
From: Sicular, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

Sorry , but "armpit of america" status belongs to east lansing,
michigan.
Believe me , I spent two years there and yes, we did call it "the armpit
of
america".



Alexander Sicular
Chief Technology Architect
Neurological Institute of New York
Columbia University
as867 [at] columbia {dot} edu


|-Original Message-
|From: Robert Forsyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
|Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:00 PM
|To: CF-Talk
|Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
|
|
|I spent a lifetime in Buffalo one Saturday...
|
|
|-Original Message-
|From: Michael Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:54 PM
|To: CF-Talk
|Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
|
|
|Buffalo "the armpit of America" even Clevelands better than 
|buffalo.well just barely
|
|

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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Joshua Miller

Michael,

What kind of hosting requirements do you have? How about traffic? We
would be happy to help out however we can.

Joshua Miller
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www.eaglewd.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

http://www.macromedia.com/v1/conference/
October 27-30, 2002

At 02:22 PM 5/15/02, you wrote:
>hmmm??  When is the MM Confrence this year?
>
>Paul Giesenhagen
>QuillDesign
>
>
>
>> There was also a lot of "bouncy bouncy" at the community suite, if I
>recall...
>>
>> 
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:12 PM
>> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>>
>>
>> > Actually, we ran the community suite at the last MM conference and
will
>be doing the same this year. For those who missed it, we
>> had food, games, community speakers, about 60 or so books to raffle
off
>and a reading library with over 20 titles. It was a blast!
>> Of course, I have a standing offer to speak anywhere I am or can be
>brought to. I'll probably be in Florida around July 8th
>> >
>>
>>
>> 
>

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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG

Nope - Pineville Kentucky (just down the holler from Pennington Gap and
Cumberland).  I spent 3 years near there in my younger idealistic youth .

-Original Message-
From: Sicular, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


Sorry , but "armpit of america" status belongs to east lansing, michigan.
Believe me , I spent two years there and yes, we did call it "the armpit of
america".



Alexander Sicular
Chief Technology Architect
Neurological Institute of New York
Columbia University
as867 [at] columbia {dot} edu


|-Original Message-
|From: Robert Forsyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:00 PM
|To: CF-Talk
|Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
|
|
|I spent a lifetime in Buffalo one Saturday...
|
|
|-Original Message-
|From: Michael Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:54 PM
|To: CF-Talk
|Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
|
|
|Buffalo "the armpit of America" even Clevelands better than
|buffalo.well just barely
|
|

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Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Sandy Clark

You forgot
Bouncy Bouncy Bouncy.
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:12 PM
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


> Actually, we ran the community suite at the last MM conference and will be
doing the same this year. For those who missed it, we had food, games,
community speakers, about 60 or so books to raffle off and a reading library
with over 20 titles. It was a blast! Of course, I have a standing offer to
speak anywhere I am or can be brought to. I'll probably be in Florida around
July 8th
>
> At 01:47 PM 5/15/02, you wrote:
> >Perhaps we should start planning the "CF-Talk Expo" here in Florida?
> >
> >Good Fortune,
> >Richard Walters,
> >Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >(800) 604-5227 x 3525
> >
> >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM >>>
> >We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been
> >consuming that gift.
> >
> >Kevin
> >
> >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM >>>
> >Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug,
> >or
> >license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?
> >
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
> >> To: CF-Talk
> >> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >>
> >>
> >> Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
> >> get back to
> >> the news .
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
> >> To: CF-Talk
> >> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >>
> >>
> >> I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
> >> "Our goal is
> >> $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
> >> To: CF-Talk
> >> Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >>
> >>
> >> I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
> >> could see that
> >> the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
> >> inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see
> >that a
> >> goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
> >> before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure
> >that
> >> there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
> >> that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be
> >inclined to
> >> donate $100.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Howie
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
> >> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >>
> >>
> >> > Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
> >> >
> >> > Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will
> >report
> >> > on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle
> >things,
> >> > and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
> >> > group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
> >> >
> >> > Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden"..
> >And
> >> > I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
> >> > receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless
> >information we
> >> > gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
> >> >
> >> > Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there
> >afterwards, if
> >> > anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to
> >do
> >> > with it.. I'm sure.
> >> >
> >> > Just my .02
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> 
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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Jacob

..and sharks

At 11:20 AM 5/15/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>What are you afraid of:  terrorists, hurricaines, train derailments,
>voting scandals, tourist taxes, water shortages, impossible traffic,
>lightning, speaking spanish, Jimmy Buffet, or sunburn?  Certainly
>there's nothing wrong with Florida that Jeb Bush or Janet Reno can't
>fix.  It helps if you say that over and over.
>
>Good Fortune,
>Richard Walters,
>Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>(800) 604-5227 x 3525
>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 02:07PM >>>
>No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth.  What
>about
>Buffalo, NY?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
>Perhaps we should start planning the "CF-Talk Expo" here in Florida?
>
>Good Fortune,
>Richard Walters,
>Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>(800) 604-5227 x 3525
>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM >>>
>We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been
>consuming that gift.
>
>Kevin
>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM >>>
>Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug,
>or
>license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >
> >
> > Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
> > get back to
> > the news .
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >
> >
> > I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
> > "Our goal is
> > $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >
> >
> > I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
> > could see that
> > the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
> > inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see
>that a
> > goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
> > before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure
>that
> > there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
> > that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be
>inclined to
> > donate $100.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Howie
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
> > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >
> >
> > > Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
> > >
> > > Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will
>report
> > > on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle
>things,
> > > and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
> > > group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
> > >
> > > Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be
>"hidden"..
>And
> > > I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
> > > receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless
>information we
> > > gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
> > >
> > > Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there
>afterwards, if
> > > anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to
>do
> > > with it.. I'm sure.
> > >
> > > Just my .02
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Hatton Humphrey

(and I wondered why the Buffalo CFUG never got off the ground)

I'm a rare individual then, I graduated from college and found a job 
here... granted, my reason for moving here was tied to the ring on my 
finger rather than the dollar signs in my eyes (wife's family lives up 
on the lake and now so do we).

Hatton

Ryan Pieszak wrote:

> Actually, I wasn't serious.  The big joke here in Buffalo is that nobody
> comes here on purpose, that nobody wants to be here, it's a rotting city.
> If anybody *actually* wants this CF-Talk Expo to be held in Buffalo, you'll
> have to let me know what you need.  Is this something that's been done in
> the past?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:15 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> 
> 
> It'd be great for me there... better than everything running to Rochester ;)
> 
> Hatton
> 
> (in Snyder)
> 
> Ryan Pieszak wrote:
> 
> 
>>No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth.  What
>>
> about
> 
>>Buffalo, NY?
>>
>>-----Original Message-
>>From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>>
>>
>>Perhaps we should start planning the "CF-Talk Expo" here in Florida? 
>>
>>Good Fortune,
>>Richard Walters,
>>Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>(800) 604-5227 x 3525
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM >>>
>>>>>
>>We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been
>>consuming that gift.
>>
>>Kevin
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM >>>
>>>>>
>>Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug,
>>or
>>license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
>>>To: CF-Talk
>>>Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>>>
>>>
>>>Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
>>>get back to
>>>the news .
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
>>>To: CF-Talk
>>>Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>>>
>>>
>>>I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
>>>"Our goal is
>>>$5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
>>>To: CF-Talk
>>>Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>>>
>>>
>>>I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
>>>could see that
>>>the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
>>>inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see
>>>
>>>
>>that a
>>
>>
>>>goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
>>>before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure
>>>
>>>
>>that
>>
>>
>>>there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
>>>that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be
>>>
>>>
>>inclined to
>>
>>
>>>donate $100.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Howie
>>>
>>>- Original Message -
>>>From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
>>>Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
>>>>
>>>>Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will
>>>>
>>>>
>>report
>>
>>
>>>>on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle
>>>>
>>>>
>>things,
>>
>>
>>>>and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
>>>>group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
>>>>
>>>>Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden"..
>>>>
>>>>
>>And
>>
>>
>>>>I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
>>>>receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless
>>>>
>>>>
>>information we
>>
>>
>>>>gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
>>>>
>>>>Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there
>>>>
>>>>
>>afterwards, if
>>
>>
>>>>anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to
>>>>
>>>>
>>do
>>
>>
>>>>with it.. I'm sure.
>>>>
>>>>Just my .02
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
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Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Sharon Diorio

Florida has to be the only state with a maximum highway speed limit of 70 and a 
minimum of 40.  Nothing like doin' the slolam through those snowbird caddies.

Sharon DiOrio
- Original Message - 
From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:23 PM
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


> Actually I am afraid of getting run over by one of the thousands of old
> people driving that can't see 10 feet in front of themselves and can't
> remember where they are going.  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:21 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> 
> What are you afraid of:  terrorists, hurricaines, train derailments,
> voting scandals, tourist taxes, water shortages, impossible traffic,
> lightning, speaking spanish, Jimmy Buffet, or sunburn?  Certainly
> there's nothing wrong with Florida that Jeb Bush or Janet Reno can't
> fix.  It helps if you say that over and over.
> 
> Good Fortune,
> Richard Walters,
> Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (800) 604-5227 x 3525
> 
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 02:07PM >>>
> No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth.  What
> about
> Buffalo, NY?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> 
> 
> Perhaps we should start planning the "CF-Talk Expo" here in Florida? 
> 
> Good Fortune,
> Richard Walters,
> Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> (800) 604-5227 x 3525
> 
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM >>>
> We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been
> consuming that gift.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM >>>
> Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug,
> or
> license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >
> >
> > Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
> > get back to
> > the news .
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >
> >
> > I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
> > "Our goal is
> > $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >
> >
> > I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
> > could see that
> > the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
> > inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see
> that a
> > goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
> > before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure
> that
> > there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
> > that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be
> inclined to
> > donate $100.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Howie
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
> > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >
> >
> > > Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
> > >
> > > Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will
> report
> > > on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle
> things,
> > > and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
> > > group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
> > >
> > > Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be
> "hidden"..
> And
> > > I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
> > > receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless
> information we
> > > gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
> > >
> > > Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there
> afterwards, if
> > > anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to
> do
> > > with it.. I'm sure.
> > >
> > > Just my .02
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Rick Eidson

Missouri I-70 outside of city limits.
 
Rick

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Sent: Wed 5/15/2002 5:08 PM 
To: CF-Talk 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


 


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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Craig Thomas

how about Montana...during the day "reasonable speed"you ever been to
montana?  at night 55.


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Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Nick Bourgeois

> What are you afraid of:  terrorists, hurricaines, train derailments,
> voting scandals, tourist taxes, water shortages, impossible traffic,
> lightning, speaking spanish, Jimmy Buffet, or sunburn?  Certainly
> there's nothing wrong with Florida that Jeb Bush or Janet Reno can't
> fix.  It helps if you say that over and over.

LOL!  It's funnier because I live in FL.

Nick

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Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Tony Schreiber

Florida is good. I would go to an expo in Florida. ;p

> Florida has to be the only state with a maximum highway speed limit of 70 and a 
>minimum of 40.  Nothing like doin' the slolam through those snowbird caddies.
>
> Sharon DiOrio
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:23 PM
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> > Actually I am afraid of getting run over by one of the thousands of old
> > people driving that can't see 10 feet in front of themselves and can't
> > remember where they are going.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:21 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >
> > What are you afraid of:  terrorists, hurricaines, train derailments,
> > voting scandals, tourist taxes, water shortages, impossible traffic,
> > lightning, speaking spanish, Jimmy Buffet, or sunburn?  Certainly
> > there's nothing wrong with Florida that Jeb Bush or Janet Reno can't
> > fix.  It helps if you say that over and over.
> >
> > Good Fortune,
> > Richard Walters,
> > Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > (800) 604-5227 x 3525
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 02:07PM >>>
> > No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth.  What
> > about
> > Buffalo, NY?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >
> >
> > Perhaps we should start planning the "CF-Talk Expo" here in Florida?
> >
> > Good Fortune,
> > Richard Walters,
> > Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > (800) 604-5227 x 3525
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM >>>
> > We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been
> > consuming that gift.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM >>>
> > Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug,
> > or
> > license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> > >
> > >
> > > Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
> > > get back to
> > > the news .
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> > >
> > >
> > > I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
> > > "Our goal is
> > > $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> > >
> > >
> > > I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
> > > could see that
> > > the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
> > > inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see
> > that a
> > > goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
> > > before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure
> > that
> > > there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
> > > that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be
> > inclined to
> > > donate $100.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Howie
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> > >
> > >
> > > > Don't agree.. (a 

RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-15 Thread Mike Kear

My brother-in-law comes from Buffalo!The rest of us come from natural
parents.  Yuk yuk yuk .

Sydney is full of convention places.  And we have a former Olympic Stadium
to hold Michael's presentations in.  It's not doing anything a few days of
the year.About 360 days a year at last count.

Cheers,
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP WebWorks


-Original Message-
From: Ryan Pieszak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 4:08 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth.  What about
Buffalo, NY?

-Original Message-
From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


Perhaps we should start planning the "CF-Talk Expo" here in Florida?

Good Fortune,
Richard Walters,
Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(800) 604-5227 x 3525


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Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-16 Thread Joseph Thompson

Here here. Australia... Too young for Florida 

 a former Olympic Stadium
> to hold Michael's presentations in.  It's not doing anything a few days of
> the year.About 360 days a year at last count.


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Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-16 Thread Shawnea Carter

and alligators, water moccasins and creepy guys that have been to one to
many bar (For the natives:  the ones (guys) in Central Florida that wear
that ball cap like thing . . . think Palatka)

I shudder.

- Original Message -
From: "Jacob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 4:27 PM
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


> ..and sharks
>
> At 11:20 AM 5/15/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >What are you afraid of:  terrorists, hurricaines, train derailments,
> >voting scandals, tourist taxes, water shortages, impossible traffic,
> >lightning, speaking spanish, Jimmy Buffet, or sunburn?  Certainly
> >there's nothing wrong with Florida that Jeb Bush or Janet Reno can't
> >fix.  It helps if you say that over and over.
> >
> >Good Fortune,
> >Richard Walters,
> >Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >(800) 604-5227 x 3525
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 02:07PM >>>
> >No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth.  What
> >about
> >Buffalo, NY?
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM
> >To: CF-Talk
> >Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >
> >
> >Perhaps we should start planning the "CF-Talk Expo" here in Florida?
> >
> >Good Fortune,
> >Richard Walters,
> >Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >(800) 604-5227 x 3525
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM >>>
> >We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been
> >consuming that gift.
> >
> >Kevin
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM >>>
> >Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug,
> >or
> >license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> > >
> > >
> > > Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
> > > get back to
> > > the news .
> > >
> > > -Original Message-----
> > > From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> > >
> > >
> > > I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
> > > "Our goal is
> > > $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> > >
> > >
> > > I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
> > > could see that
> > > the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
> > > inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see
> >that a
> > > goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
> > > before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure
> >that
> > > there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
> > > that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be
> >inclined to
> > > donate $100.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Howie
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> > >
> > >
> > > > Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
> > > >
> > > > Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will
> >report
> > > > on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle
> >things,
> > > > and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
> > > > group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
> > > >
> > > > Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be
> >"hidden"..
> >And
> > > > I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
> > > > receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless
> >information we
> > > > gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
> > > >
> > > > Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there
> >afterwards, if
> > > > anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to
> >do
> > > > with it.. I'm sure.
> > > >
> > > > Just my .02
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-16 Thread Development

I'll second that Buffalo nomination!

Jeff


- Original Message -
From: "Ryan Pieszak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:07 PM
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


> No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth.  What
about
> Buffalo, NY?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> Perhaps we should start planning the "CF-Talk Expo" here in Florida?
>
> Good Fortune,
> Richard Walters,
> Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (800) 604-5227 x 3525
>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM >>>
> We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been
> consuming that gift.
>
> Kevin
>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM >>>
> Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug,
> or
> license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >
> >
> > Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
> > get back to
> > the news .
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >
> >
> > I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
> > "Our goal is
> > $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >
> >
> > I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
> > could see that
> > the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
> > inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see
> that a
> > goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
> > before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure
> that
> > there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
> > that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be
> inclined to
> > donate $100.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Howie
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
> > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >
> >
> > > Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
> > >
> > > Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will
> report
> > > on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle
> things,
> > > and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
> > > group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
> > >
> > > Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden"..
> And
> > > I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
> > > receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless
> information we
> > > gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
> > >
> > > Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there
> afterwards, if
> > > anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to
> do
> > > with it.. I'm sure.
> > >
> > > Just my .02
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 
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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-16 Thread David Schmidt

If you come to Seattle, we'll promise not to tear-gas ya!



> -Original Message-
> From: Development [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 7:21 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> 
> 
> I'll second that Buffalo nomination!
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ryan Pieszak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:07 PM
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> 
> 
> > No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth.  What
> about
> > Buffalo, NY?
> >
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >
> >
> > Perhaps we should start planning the "CF-Talk Expo" here in Florida?
> >
> > Good Fortune,
> > Richard Walters,
> > Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > (800) 604-5227 x 3525
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM >>>
> > We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been
> > consuming that gift.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM >>>
> > Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug,
> > or
> > license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> > >
> > >
> > > Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
> > > get back to
> > > the news .
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> > >
> > >
> > > I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
> > > "Our goal is
> > > $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> > >
> > >
> > > I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
> > > could see that
> > > the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
> > > inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see
> > that a
> > > goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
> > > before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure
> > that
> > > there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
> > > that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be
> > inclined to
> > > donate $100.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Howie
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> > >
> > >
> > > > Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
> > > >
> > > > Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will
> > report
> > > > on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle
> > things,
> > > > and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
> > > > group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
> > > >
> > > > Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden"..
> > And
> > > > I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
> > > > receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless
> > information we
> > > > gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
> > > >
> > > > Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there
> > afterwards, if
> > > > anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to
> > do
> > > > with it.. I'm sure.
> > > >
> > > > Just my .02
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> 
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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-16 Thread Rich Wild

I'm going unilateral in my vote for Bournemouth, England. I'm confident that
this one will be a winner, I really am.

> -Original Message-
> From: Development [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 16 May 2002 15:21
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> 
> 
> I'll second that Buffalo nomination!
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ryan Pieszak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:07 PM
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> 
> 
> > No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the 
> wealth.  What
> about
> > Buffalo, NY?
> >
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >
> >
> > Perhaps we should start planning the "CF-Talk Expo" here in Florida?
> >
> > Good Fortune,
> > Richard Walters,
> > Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > (800) 604-5227 x 3525
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM >>>
> > We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been
> > consuming that gift.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM >>>
> > Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, 
> coffee mug,
> > or
> > license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> > >
> > >
> > > Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
> > > get back to
> > > the news .
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> > >
> > >
> > > I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
> > > "Our goal is
> > > $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> > >
> > >
> > > I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
> > > could see that
> > > the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
> > > inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and 
> need to see
> > that a
> > > goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
> > > before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure
> > that
> > > there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
> > > that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be
> > inclined to
> > > donate $100.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Howie
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> > >
> > >
> > > > Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
> > > >
> > > > Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm 
> sure will
> > report
> > > > on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle
> > things,
> > > > and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll 
> probabaly ask the
> > > > group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
> > > >
> > > > Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should 
> be "hidden"..
> > And
> > > > I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, 
> ANYTHING he
> > > > receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless
> > information we
> > > > gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
> > > >
> > > > Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there
> > afterwards, if
> > > > anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote 
> on what to
> > do
> > > > with it.. I'm sure.
> > > >
> > > > Just my .02
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> 
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Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-16 Thread Development

Not terribly long.. Its a 400 or so mile trip... Quicker to take a plane
Beleive it or not, Buffalo even has its own airport.. ;-)

Jeff

- Original Message -
From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:14 PM
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


> How long does it take to get there by train from Manhatten?
>
> At 02:07 PM 5/15/02, you wrote:
> >No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth.  What
about
> >Buffalo, NY?
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM
> >To: CF-Talk
> >Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >
> >
> >Perhaps we should start planning the "CF-Talk Expo" here in Florida?
> >
> >Good Fortune,
> >Richard Walters,
> >Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >(800) 604-5227 x 3525
> >
> >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM >>>
> >We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been
> >consuming that gift.
> >
> >Kevin
> >
> >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM >>>
> >Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug,
> >or
> >license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?
> >
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
> >> To: CF-Talk
> >> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >>
> >>
> >> Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
> >> get back to
> >> the news .
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
> >> To: CF-Talk
> >> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >>
> >>
> >> I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
> >> "Our goal is
> >> $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
> >> To: CF-Talk
> >> Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >>
> >>
> >> I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
> >> could see that
> >> the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
> >> inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see
> >that a
> >> goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
> >> before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure
> >that
> >> there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
> >> that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be
> >inclined to
> >> donate $100.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Howie
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
> >> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >>
> >>
> >> > Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
> >> >
> >> > Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will
> >report
> >> > on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle
> >things,
> >> > and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
> >> > group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
> >> >
> >> > Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden"..
> >And
> >> > I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
> >> > receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless
> >information we
> >> > gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
> >> >
> >> > Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there
> >afterwards, if
> >> > anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to
> >do
> >> > with it.. I'm sure.
> >> >
> >> > Just my .02
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-16 Thread Sharon Diorio

ROTFLMAO!  My niece lives in East Palatka.  Fortunately she still has all her teeth.

Sharon
- Original Message - 
From: "Shawnea Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


> and alligators, water moccasins and creepy guys that have been to one to
> many bar (For the natives:  the ones (guys) in Central Florida that wear
> that ball cap like thing . . . think Palatka)
> 
> I shudder.
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Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-16 Thread Charlie

A third vote for the Buffalo nomination



- Original Message -
From: "Development" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


> I'll second that Buffalo nomination!
>
> Jeff
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ryan Pieszak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:07 PM
> Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
>
>
> > No way, everything happens in Florida, time to share the wealth.  What
> about
> > Buffalo, NY?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:47 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> >
> >
> > Perhaps we should start planning the "CF-Talk Expo" here in Florida?
> >
> > Good Fortune,
> > Richard Walters,
> > Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > (800) 604-5227 x 3525
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/02 01:36PM >>>
> > We get a free gift with our donation, but we have already been
> > consuming that gift.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/02 10:13AM >>>
> > Does this mean, that for a donation, we can get a t-shirt, coffee mug,
> > or
> > license plate with a 'Swirly Thing' on it?
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:08 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> > >
> > >
> > > Yeah - I usually pledge along about Wednesday, just so they will
> > > get back to
> > > the news .
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:43 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> > >
> > >
> > > I was just going to say that this strategy works great for NPR:
> > > "Our goal is
> > > $5000 this hour, and we've got $3000. C'mon, call us!"
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:38 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> > >
> > >
> > > I think you misread my intentions.  I figured that if someone
> > > could see that
> > > the goal was not yet reached then they would be more
> > > inclined to donate.  People are sometimes apathetic and need to see
> > that a
> > > goal was not reached.  If, say, someone waits a few weeks
> > > before donating they may throw in 10 bucks because they may figure
> > that
> > > there were enough donations.  If, however, they could see
> > > that the donations were a few thousand short then they may be
> > inclined to
> > > donate $100.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Howie
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Lee Fuller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:30 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
> > >
> > >
> > > > Don't agree.. (a first for me and you Howie! )
> > > >
> > > > Michael will put to good use whatever is there, and I'm sure will
> > report
> > > > on what's left after his decisions are made about how to handle
> > things,
> > > > and what he's put in place.   Knowing him, he'll probabaly ask the
> > > > group.  But I trust Michael and his decisions.
> > > >
> > > > Don't get me wrong.. I don't think the numbers should be "hidden"..
> > And
> > > > I have NO doubt that Michael is above that.  However, ANYTHING he
> > > > receives from us will be well worth it, for the priceless
> > information we
> > > > gain from this list, and ultimately his support.
> > > >
> > > > Let him handle it, and let him report to us what's there
> > afterwards, if
> > > > anything.  If anything's left, we can all discuss/vote on what to
> > do
> > > > with it.. I'm sure.
> > > >
> > > > Just my .02
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE

2002-05-29 Thread Steven Dworman

agreed

-Original Message-
From: Sicular, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE


Sorry , but "armpit of america" status belongs to east lansing, michigan.
Believe me , I spent two years there and yes, we did call it "the armpit of
america".



Alexander Sicular
Chief Technology Architect
Neurological Institute of New York
Columbia University
as867 [at] columbia {dot} edu


|-Original Message-
|From: Robert Forsyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:00 PM
|To: CF-Talk
|Subject: RE: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
|
|
|I spent a lifetime in Buffalo one Saturday...
|
|
|-Original Message-
|From: Michael Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:54 PM
|To: CF-Talk
|Subject: Re: [admin] List status - A CHALLENGE
|
|
|Buffalo "the armpit of America" even Clevelands better than
|buffalo.well just barely
|
|

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