RE: Amazon using CF

2000-12-15 Thread James Maltby

Amazon used to use CF - Allaire was proud to have them as a client about two
years ago - since then they are tried asp,cgi and other such nonsense!

James

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Now behave yourself."
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Sent: 14 December 2000 17:32
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Amazon using CF


Hey Guys:

I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of
whitespace, resembling CF output.  Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF or
what language they do use.


Greg
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Re: Amazon using CF

2000-12-15 Thread Kevin Schmidt

I think it is quite possible that there might be some left overs from the
Toy'Rus stuff but other than that I don't think your gonna find any.
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 I'll give $5 to the person who can a .cfm file on Amazon.com.

 Seriously...

 cfif listfindnocase(AllaireClientlist, "amazon")
 cfset You_think_they_might_advertise_that = "yes"
 /cfif

 Aaron Johnson, MCSE, MCP+I
 Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer
 MINDSEYE, Inc.
 phn617.350.0339
 fax617.350.8884
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 - -Original Message-
 From: John Grubb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 2:11 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Amazon using CF


 Yes, they do, among other languages. I have seen ".cfm" files on
 their site.

 John

 - -Original Message-
 From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 12:32 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Amazon using CF


 Hey Guys:

 I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of
 whitespace, resembling CF output.  Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF
 or
 what language they do use.


 Greg

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Re: Amazon using CF

2000-12-15 Thread Greg Wolfinger

 Yep. One bug recently found in IIS+CF give source code of any *.cfm. AFAIK
 many websites on CF can be broken very easily then.

I am pretty sure that the issue that you are referring to release code for
ASP, JSP, and any other server side scripting as well.  That issue had
nothing to do with Cold Fusion whatsoever.  As long as you code efficiently
and code with security issues in mind you CF apps will be secure.  The big
problem is that you need to keep up to date with the thousands of patches
put out by Microsoft for IIS.

-Greg
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Subject: Re: Amazon using CF


  Do you think that the largest online e-tailor wants people to know what
  language and app servers they use?  That would aid hackers quite nicely,
  huh?

 Yep. One bug recently found in IIS+CF give source code of any *.cfm. AFAIK
 many websites on CF can be broken very easily then.

 Regards,
 Gennadi



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RE: Amazon using CF

2000-12-14 Thread Dylan Bromby

I'm pretty sure Amazon has its own scripting language. I know Excite does.
In fact there are a few high-end, high-volume sites that do that.

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Amazon using CF


Hey Guys:

I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of
whitespace, resembling CF output.  Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF or
what language they do use.


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Re: Amazon using CF

2000-12-14 Thread Alex Aguilar

BEA System's WebLogic
It's a java app server. Somewhere in the $20 grand per processor range.
Of course, it does allow for the personalization you see on Amazon's site.

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Subject: Amazon using CF


 Hey Guys:

 I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of
whitespace, resembling CF output.  Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF or
what language they do use.


 Greg



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Re: Amazon using CF

2000-12-14 Thread Peter Theobald

From what I understood before they got secretive about their technology, a lot of it 
is built in Perl.

At 12:32 PM 12/14/00 -0500, Greg Wolfinger wrote:
Hey Guys:

I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of whitespace, 
resembling CF output.  Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF or what language they do 
use.


Greg



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Re: Amazon using CF

2000-12-14 Thread Greg Wolfinger

Well I would then like to get my hands on their parser :)
Raise some hell, haha.


Greg
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From: "Dylan Bromby" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 1:35 PM
Subject: RE: Amazon using CF


 I'm pretty sure Amazon has its own scripting language. I know Excite does.
 In fact there are a few high-end, high-volume sites that do that.

 -Original Message-
 From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 9:32 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Amazon using CF


 Hey Guys:

 I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of
 whitespace, resembling CF output.  Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF or
 what language they do use.


 Greg

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Re: Amazon using CF

2000-12-14 Thread Shane Witbeck


I have heard that they use their own language? and Oracle db's

Shane Witbeck



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Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:32:21 -0500

Hey Guys:

I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of whitespace, 
resembling CF output.  Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF or what language they do 
use.


Greg



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RE: Amazon using CF

2000-12-14 Thread Aaron Johnson

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I'll give $5 to the person who can a .cfm file on Amazon.com.  

Seriously...

cfif listfindnocase(AllaireClientlist, "amazon")
cfset You_think_they_might_advertise_that = "yes"
/cfif

Aaron Johnson, MCSE, MCP+I
Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer
MINDSEYE, Inc.
phn617.350.0339
fax617.350.8884
icq66172567
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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- -Original Message-
From: John Grubb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 2:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Amazon using CF


Yes, they do, among other languages. I have seen ".cfm" files on
their site.

John

- -Original Message-
From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 12:32 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Amazon using CF


Hey Guys:

I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of
whitespace, resembling CF output.  Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF
or
what language they do use.


Greg
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Re: Amazon using CF

2000-12-14 Thread Jim McAtee

No kidding.  I think Allaire could be a little embarassed about the previous
CF poster child, ToysRUs.  It took Amazon about 15 minutes to convert the
site from Cold Fusion to their own system.

Jim


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 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 I'll give $5 to the person who can a .cfm file on Amazon.com.

 Seriously...

 cfif listfindnocase(AllaireClientlist, "amazon")
 cfset You_think_they_might_advertise_that = "yes"
 /cfif

 Aaron Johnson, MCSE, MCP+I
 Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer
 MINDSEYE, Inc.
 phn617.350.0339
 fax617.350.8884
 icq66172567
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 ___
 "Never forget that only dead fish swim with
 the stream." -- Malcolm Muggeridge
 ___


 - -Original Message-
 From: John Grubb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 2:11 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Amazon using CF


 Yes, they do, among other languages. I have seen ".cfm" files on
 their site.

 John

 - -Original Message-
 From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 12:32 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Amazon using CF


 Hey Guys:

 I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of
 whitespace, resembling CF output.  Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF
 or
 what language they do use.


 Greg

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Re: Amazon using CF

2000-12-14 Thread Gena

 Do you think that the largest online e-tailor wants people to know what
 language and app servers they use?  That would aid hackers quite nicely,
 huh?

Yep. One bug recently found in IIS+CF give source code of any *.cfm. AFAIK
many websites on CF can be broken very easily then.

Regards,
Gennadi


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RE: Amazon using CF

2000-12-14 Thread Raymond Camden

Of course, what I meant to say is : " Geeze, it was EASY to convert from CF
to another language, which
means that CF was easy to read and understand."

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 -Original Message-
 From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 7:57 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Amazon using CF


 Outside of losing a client, why is this bad? It seems like your saying,
 "Geeze, it was hard to convert from CF to another language, which
 means that
 CF was easy to read and understand." :

 ===
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  -Original Message-
  From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 6:17 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: Amazon using CF
 
 
  No kidding.  I think Allaire could be a little embarassed about
  the previous
  CF poster child, ToysRUs.  It took Amazon about 15 minutes to
 convert the
  site from Cold Fusion to their own system.
 
  Jim
 
 



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RE: Amazon using CF

2000-12-14 Thread Dave Watts

 Yep. One bug recently found in IIS+CF give source code of any 
 *.cfm. AFAIK many websites on CF can be broken very easily then.

That's not a CF bug, it's an IIS bug. The script reading exploits will work
with any scripting language used on IIS.

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Re: Amazon using CF

2000-12-14 Thread Peter Theobald

That's because they didn't convert anything. They loaded Toys R Us's inventory into 
their existing system.
Nothing new had to be written.
BTW, they lost alot of "toy specific" functionality along the way.

At 04:16 PM 12/14/00 -0700, Jim McAtee wrote:
No kidding.  I think Allaire could be a little embarassed about the previous
CF poster child, ToysRUs.  It took Amazon about 15 minutes to convert the
site from Cold Fusion to their own system.

Jim


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From: "Aaron Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 1:53 PM
Subject: RE: Amazon using CF


 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 I'll give $5 to the person who can a .cfm file on Amazon.com.

 Seriously...

 cfif listfindnocase(AllaireClientlist, "amazon")
 cfset You_think_they_might_advertise_that = "yes"
 /cfif

 Aaron Johnson, MCSE, MCP+I
 Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer
 MINDSEYE, Inc.
 phn617.350.0339
 fax617.350.8884
 icq66172567
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 ___
 "Never forget that only dead fish swim with
 the stream." -- Malcolm Muggeridge
 ___


 - -Original Message-
 From: John Grubb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 2:11 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Amazon using CF


 Yes, they do, among other languages. I have seen ".cfm" files on
 their site.

 John

 - -Original Message-
 From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 12:32 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Amazon using CF


 Hey Guys:

 I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of
 whitespace, resembling CF output.  Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF
 or
 what language they do use.


 Greg


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Re: Amazon using CF

2000-12-14 Thread Laszlo Nadai

Silly question:
Why would you have to *see*  '.cfm' to prove they are using cf?

laszlo

Aaron Johnson wrote:
 
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 I'll give $5 to the person who can a .cfm file on Amazon.com.
 
 Seriously...
 
 cfif listfindnocase(AllaireClientlist, "amazon")
 cfset You_think_they_might_advertise_that = "yes"
 /cfif
 
 Aaron Johnson, MCSE, MCP+I
 Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer
 MINDSEYE, Inc.
 phn617.350.0339
 fax617.350.8884
 icq66172567
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 ___
 "Never forget that only dead fish swim with
 the stream." -- Malcolm Muggeridge
 ___
 
 - -Original Message-
 From: John Grubb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 2:11 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Amazon using CF
 
 Yes, they do, among other languages. I have seen ".cfm" files on
 their site.
 
 John
 
 - -Original Message-
 From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 12:32 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Amazon using CF
 
 Hey Guys:
 
 I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of
 whitespace, resembling CF output.  Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF
 or
 what language they do use.
 
 Greg

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RE: Amazon using CF

2000-12-14 Thread Michael Thomas

Its just a mapping, once removed the vulnerability is gone.


From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Amazon using CF
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:12:21 -0500

  Yep. One bug recently found in IIS+CF give source code of any
  *.cfm. AFAIK many websites on CF can be broken very easily then.

That's not a CF bug, it's an IIS bug. The script reading exploits will work
with any scripting language used on IIS.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444


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Re: Amazon using CF

2000-12-14 Thread Michael She

Funny thing... Allaire's sales guy that just came to my company to do a 
demo still pushes Toys R Us as a customer.


At 04:16 PM 12/14/00 -0700, Jim McAtee you wrote:

No kidding.  I think Allaire could be a little embarassed about the previous
CF poster child, ToysRUs.  It took Amazon about 15 minutes to convert the
site from Cold Fusion to their own system.

Jim


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From: "Aaron Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 1:53 PM
Subject: RE: Amazon using CF


  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
 
  I'll give $5 to the person who can a .cfm file on Amazon.com.
 
  Seriously...
 
  cfif listfindnocase(AllaireClientlist, "amazon")
  cfset You_think_they_might_advertise_that = "yes"
  /cfif
 
  Aaron Johnson, MCSE, MCP+I
  Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer
  MINDSEYE, Inc.
  phn617.350.0339
  fax617.350.8884
  icq66172567
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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  the stream." -- Malcolm Muggeridge
  ___
 
 
  - -Original Message-
  From: John Grubb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 2:11 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Amazon using CF
 
 
  Yes, they do, among other languages. I have seen ".cfm" files on
  their site.
 
  John
 
  - -Original Message-
  From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 12:32 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Amazon using CF
 
 
  Hey Guys:
 
  I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of
  whitespace, resembling CF output.  Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF
  or
  what language they do use.
 
 
  Greg
 

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RE: Amazon using CF

2000-12-14 Thread Steve Pierce

You wrote:
 It took Amazon about 15 minutes to convert the
 site from Cold Fusion to their own system.

Where did you get this data? The stuff I read is that it took thousands of
man hours and almost a year to complete the integration of the TRU store at
Amazon.

 - Steve


-Original Message-
At 04:16 PM 12/14/00 -0700, Jim McAtee you wrote:

No kidding.  I think Allaire could be a little embarassed about the
previous
CF poster child, ToysRUs.  It took Amazon about 15 minutes to convert the
site from Cold Fusion to their own system.

Jim


- Original Message -
From: "Aaron Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 1:53 PM
Subject: RE: Amazon using CF


  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
 
  I'll give $5 to the person who can a .cfm file on Amazon.com.
 
  Seriously...
 
  cfif listfindnocase(AllaireClientlist, "amazon")
  cfset You_think_they_might_advertise_that = "yes"
  /cfif
 
  Aaron Johnson, MCSE, MCP+I
  Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer
  MINDSEYE, Inc.
  phn617.350.0339
  fax617.350.8884
  icq66172567
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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  "Never forget that only dead fish swim with
  the stream." -- Malcolm Muggeridge
  ___
 
 
  - -Original Message-
  From: John Grubb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 2:11 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Amazon using CF
 
 
  Yes, they do, among other languages. I have seen ".cfm" files on
  their site.
 
  John
 
  - -Original Message-
  From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 12:32 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Amazon using CF
 
 
  Hey Guys:
 
  I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of
  whitespace, resembling CF output.  Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF
  or
  what language they do use.
 
 
  Greg
 

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RE: Amazon using CF

2000-12-14 Thread Steve Pierce

I first heard about it last spring and apparently it had been in the works
for some time.

 - Steve


-Original Message-
From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 11:52 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Amazon using CF


If I remember correctly, the announcement about the partnership with Amazon
was made in August of this year.  All in all, pretty ballsy, unless it had
been in the works for quite some time.

Jim


- Original Message -
From: "Steve Pierce" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 9:23 PM
Subject: RE: Amazon using CF


 You wrote:
  It took Amazon about 15 minutes to convert the
  site from Cold Fusion to their own system.

 Where did you get this data? The stuff I read is that it took thousands of
 man hours and almost a year to complete the integration of the TRU store
at
 Amazon.

  - Steve


 -Original Message-
 At 04:16 PM 12/14/00 -0700, Jim McAtee you wrote:

 No kidding.  I think Allaire could be a little embarassed about the
 previous
 CF poster child, ToysRUs.  It took Amazon about 15 minutes to convert the
 site from Cold Fusion to their own system.
 
 Jim
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Aaron Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 1:53 PM
 Subject: RE: Amazon using CF
 
 
   -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
   Hash: SHA1
  
   I'll give $5 to the person who can a .cfm file on Amazon.com.
  
   Seriously...
  
   cfif listfindnocase(AllaireClientlist, "amazon")
   cfset You_think_they_might_advertise_that = "yes"
   /cfif
  
   Aaron Johnson, MCSE, MCP+I
   Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer
   MINDSEYE, Inc.
   phn617.350.0339
   fax617.350.8884
   icq66172567
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
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   - -Original Message-
   From: John Grubb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 2:11 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: RE: Amazon using CF
  
  
   Yes, they do, among other languages. I have seen ".cfm" files on
   their site.
  
   John
  
   - -Original Message-
   From: Greg Wolfinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 12:32 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Amazon using CF
  
  
   Hey Guys:
  
   I was looking at some amazon.com source and notice quite a bit of
   whitespace, resembling CF output.  Does anyone know if Amazon uses CF
   or
   what language they do use.
  
  
   Greg
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