RE: Best three CF Job locales?

2004-12-14 Thread Ben Forta
Best I have seen is the D.C. area. I may be way off base here, but most of
the recent requests for referrals that I have received are from Government
agencies (many of whom are bringing contract works back in house).

FWIW, D.C. area is also home to several of the most active user groups (oh,
and CFUN of course), as well as respected CF development shops. I don't know
which is the chicken and which is the egg - but it does all fit together
nicely.

--- Ben
 

-Original Message-
From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 4:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Best three CF Job locales? [WAS: Re: CF vs ASP.NET! GET YOUR FRESH
POPCON!!]

Where the heck do you live?

I wish I had the balls to up and move from my homeland.  I consider myself a
PGP (pretty good programmer), and I am stuck here at an embarassing salary.

My job, co-workers and job environment is awesome, I get to take my dog to
work, I make my own hours, and have all the freedom in the world.  But
still, some bennies and a better salary would be nice.

Let's start another topic: Where are the top 3 places to live if you want
the best CF job?  Maybe I'll consider a move

(I am cross-posting this so that everybody gets it, but reply only to the
cf-community, as this is gotten even further off-topic)

Ray



At 04:26 PM 12/14/2004, you wrote:
will,

if u spent as much time going to your local cfug as u do whining u'd 
have a damn cfm job have u ever gone to a cfug? do u know what a cfug 
is?

funny, last night at ours, the shops that were going .net  cfm have 
now scaled back to just cfm, hu

and plenty of jobs were passed around, lowest paid $45 an + hour full 
benefit package

if u were there u coulda had your pick, well maybe

like i said before, dont let the door hit ya were the good lord split 
ya

-- Original Message --
From: Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:13:53 -0400

 Silence the dissenters. Hitler practiced that concept well!
 
 ***There are only a handful of irrelevant posts in this thread out of 
 98
 (as of now).
 
 Silencing unhappy CF'ers who are having to diversify due to the lack 
 of
 CF jobs, and are willing to subject themselves to ridicule by their 
 peers, is NOT a good thing. Some of you guys seemed to have 
 intentionally posted irrelevant responses just to make the whole thread
look that way.
 
 I appreciate Ben Forta's candidness and honest opinions on this topic.
 
 I'm sorry if I offended people by saying we've been lulled to sleep. 
 Maybe I should've said we're being complacent instead. And Macromedia
 *might* be too complacent about this whole situation. SOME of Team MM 
 seems to be at least. I think we all need to see the big picture, and 
 shoot higher than we are. Maybe it's .NET sexiness right now, maybe 
 it's not. But even if it is, will it hurt to try and push CF? And 
 figure out EXACTLY why so many are moving to .NET right now?
 
 Will
 
 
 
 





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Re: Best three CF Job locales?

2004-12-14 Thread Adrocknaphobia
 Best I have seen is the D.C. area. I may be way off base here, but most of
 the recent requests for referrals that I have received are from Government
 agencies (many of whom are bringing contract works back in house).
 --- Ben

DC rocks, as well as MD and VA! Although if you are looking to move to
govt, you'll most likely need a security clearance for the higher
paying enterprise level gigs. We have a CC MMUG here at Dept of State
(I'm pushing to get two more CF slots, but its all red tape and budget
at this point). I know Lisa runs a CC for DHS, which may be a good
resource for CF jobs there.

-Adam

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Re: Best three CF Job locales?

2004-12-14 Thread Ray Champagne
I assume that getting gently 'nudged' out of the military for some stupid 
things I did as a young man would probably would disqualify me for a 
security clearance?  I had a 'secret' clearance at one point

Ray

At 04:46 PM 12/14/2004, you wrote:
  Best I have seen is the D.C. area. I may be way off base here, but most of
  the recent requests for referrals that I have received are from Government
  agencies (many of whom are bringing contract works back in house).
  --- Ben

DC rocks, as well as MD and VA! Although if you are looking to move to
govt, you'll most likely need a security clearance for the higher
paying enterprise level gigs. We have a CC MMUG here at Dept of State
(I'm pushing to get two more CF slots, but its all red tape and budget
at this point). I know Lisa runs a CC for DHS, which may be a good
resource for CF jobs there.

-Adam



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