Re: Browser / desktop resolution

2000-08-16 Thread Michael Dinowitz

http://www.webreference.com/js/column17/


 Hi All,
 Is there a way from CF to work out what resolution a users browser is set
 to?

 Thanks,
 Lucas.
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 Lucas Sherwood
 Technical Sales Consultant
 FirmwareDesign

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RE: Browser / desktop resolution

2000-08-15 Thread LISTS

yeah!!

John Cesta


yeah!!!

-Original Message-
From: Todd Ashworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 11:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Browser / desktop resolution


  What have you tried??  Ever looked into JavaScript??

 I am going to be frank and apologize to everyone for this.  I have been
 watching this list for 2 weeks and the mass of amounts of email being
sent
 on a daily basis is annoying.  There are some really good subjects in
some
 of them but reading through them all is difficult to say the least.
Maybe I
 will just look through the archives if I need anything.  Now, comes my
 *whining*.

-8--- snip ---8-

Well, my take on it is this ...

It was a legitimate ColdFusion question no matter how inappropriate or
trivial it may have seemd to some.  Your comment about "Ever looked into
JavaScript??" was pointless.  The question was, "Is it possible to do with
ColdFusion?", not "Is it possible?".  Maybe this person is new to ColdFusion
and hasn't quite grasped the idea that it is strictly server-side.  Or,
maybe they do, but were still wondering if it could be detected server-side,
etc.  Maybe they were really asking if anyone has come up with a snazzy new
way to do it.  I understand that we should all mess around with the code and
learn from trying new things and having to figure them out, but if we were
expected to do that with every single thing we ever wanted to do, there
would be absolutely no need for all those handy custom tags floating about.
There also wouldn't be a need for fusebox or any structured, organized
coding style of any sort.  Besides, for the one person who asks a question
on this list, there are probably 50 who are curious but have never bothered
to ask, or are curious now that the question has been posed because they
never even thought about it before.  If someone answers the question, then
everyone who is even remotely curious now knows the answer and can file it
away for future use .. or at least remember if it is indeed possible so they
will have a better idea where to and where not to look in the future if they
need to.  I thought we were all on this list to learn as much about the
aspects related to ColdFusion as we can .. even the things we didn't think
we wanted to know?

As I have learned on this list every day, you can never have enough
information.

Todd



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RE: Browser / desktop resolution

2000-08-14 Thread Terry Bader

What have you tried??  Ever looked into JavaScript??

I am going to be frank and apologize to everyone for this.  I have been
watching this list for 2 weeks and the mass of amounts of email being sent
on a daily basis is annoying.  There are some really good subjects in some
of them but reading through them all is difficult to say the least.  Maybe I
will just look through the archives if I need anything.  Now, comes my
*whining*.

This is a developers email list, right?  more or less...  if not then I am
sorry  but in mailing lists where development and programming goes,
people just don't ask how and what can and where and so forth without trying
to find what they need, playing with the code and then posting.  But also
posting what they tried and what they got and what they really want to do.
I find though, on this list, messages such as Lucas' (sorry, you just happen
to be the one that broke the camel's back).  You ask how, but you don't
state what you have tried, what you think is supposed to happen, what you
think you should try, so forth...  no info given but you need this/that
personally Lucas, I would go look to some JavaScript sites and books, I am
99.9% sure that I saw one (shoot I probably have it in my personally
repository) out there and where there is one there are more.

Again, forgive me...  most of the messages posted here are by very serious
and very good developers and I applaud them.  But they got that way by
putting a lot of effort into their work and asked questions after trying
stuff out (usual they figured it out on their own though)..  

I will be un-subscribing tomorrow, so if you wish to wait on hazing me
without hurting my feelings (which you couldn't anyway) I would wait till
tomorrow  Any personal hate mails can be sent to me directly, which of
course I will probably delete anyway.  

To all the serious learners and programmers, excellent job..

Terry Bader
Web Developer
EDO Corp - Combat Systems
(757) 424-1004 ext 361
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
icq: 5202487   aim: lv2bounce
http://www.cs.odu.edu/~bader





 -Original Message-
 From: Lucas Sherwood [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 7:10 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cfaussie
 Subject:  Browser / desktop resolution
 
 Hi All,
 Is there a way from CF to work out what resolution a users browser is set
 to?
 
 Thanks,
 Lucas.
 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 Lucas Sherwood
 Technical Sales Consultant
 FirmwareDesign
 
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RE: Browser / desktop resolution

2000-08-14 Thread Scott, Andrew

I do totally agree with what you have written, however sometimes in the heat
of frustration sometimes even the experienced can get stumped. Even if they
are developing on their own and have know else in the team to help out.

But you are right, a lot of the time its people who have not bothered to
read the documentation. Which btw is the best Application Software I have
seen with great reference material both in print and in IDE tools
Homesite/Studio, a lot of the simple questions can be answered by fiddling,
playing, experimenting knowing the functions backwards.

And even in these times if you thing you understand what is happening, you
sometimes don't. And you ask for help in what is going wrong, so sometimes
don't excuse these people either. But people need to slow down and explain
things alot more, and people on this list will recall a few that I got
going. Not because I was an ass, and not because I wanted to cause trouble.
But deadlines are deadlines, and sometimes you need help there and then and
don't have a great deal of time to explain it. Well this happens all the
time, I have been on this list now for nearly the beginning of its time.

I have seen the most stupidest questions! Questions that can be answered,
but people also have to remember that CF is great for the beginner and for
those Advanced Senior Programmers its a godsend. To be an Advanced/Senior
developer takes time, and a lot of hard work and understanding of lateral
thinking and logic. These don't come easy and some people on this list think
it does, but sometimes it can be a writers block so to speak and we need a
third person to look at it to see why we can't see the logical problem.

This is why such publications as Dr Jobbs and such publications are great,
the use the information to teach and show new logic. Wouldn't it be good for
a mailing list like this to behave like that as well, instead of so much
people with big heads and there the people who tend to rub people up the
wrong way.

Anyway enough said, just a few thoughts I had after reading this!


regards

Andrew Scott
ANZ eCommerce Centre
* Ph 9273 0693  
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-Original Message-
From: Terry Bader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 August 2000 09:40
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Browser / desktop resolution


What have you tried??  Ever looked into JavaScript??

I am going to be frank and apologize to everyone for this.  I have been
watching this list for 2 weeks and the mass of amounts of email being sent
on a daily basis is annoying.  There are some really good subjects in some
of them but reading through them all is difficult to say the least.  Maybe I
will just look through the archives if I need anything.  Now, comes my
*whining*.

This is a developers email list, right?  more or less...  if not then I am
sorry  but in mailing lists where development and programming goes,
people just don't ask how and what can and where and so forth without trying
to find what they need, playing with the code and then posting.  But also
posting what they tried and what they got and what they really want to do.
I find though, on this list, messages such as Lucas' (sorry, you just happen
to be the one that broke the camel's back).  You ask how, but you don't
state what you have tried, what you think is supposed to happen, what you
think you should try, so forth...  no info given but you need this/that
personally Lucas, I would go look to some JavaScript sites and books, I am
99.9% sure that I saw one (shoot I probably have it in my personally
repository) out there and where there is one there are more.

Again, forgive me...  most of the messages posted here are by very serious
and very good developers and I applaud them.  But they got that way by
putting a lot of effort into their work and asked questions after trying
stuff out (usual they figured it out on their own though)..  

I will be un-subscribing tomorrow, so if you wish to wait on hazing me
without hurting my feelings (which you couldn't anyway) I would wait till
tomorrow  Any personal hate mails can be sent to me directly, which of
course I will probably delete anyway.  

To all the serious learners and programmers, excellent job..

Terry Bader
Web Developer
EDO Corp - Combat Systems
(757) 424-1004 ext 361
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
icq: 5202487   aim: lv2bounce
http://www.cs.odu.edu/~bader





 -Original Message-
 From: Lucas Sherwood [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 7:10 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cfaussie
 Subject:  Browser / desktop resolution
 
 Hi All,
 Is there a way from CF to work out what resolution a users browser is set
 to?
 
 Thanks,
 Lucas.
 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 Lucas Sherwood
 Technical Sales Consultant
 FirmwareDesign
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Browser / desktop resolution

2000-08-14 Thread rkeniger



I am going to be frank and apologize to everyone for this.  I have been
watching this list for 2 weeks and the mass of amounts of email being sent
on a daily basis is annoying.  There are some really good subjects in some
of them but reading through them all is difficult to say the least.  Maybe I
will just look through the archives if I need anything.  Now, comes my
*whining*.

Jeez. It's a high-volume list. Set your mail filters and get over it.


Rob Keniger


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RE: Browser / desktop resolution

2000-08-14 Thread Lucas Sherwood

Thanks all for you help! The Brain Fog has cleared...

Sorry to have started so much controversy...

L.
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Lucas Sherwood
Technical Sales Consultant
FirmwareDesign

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-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, 15 August 2000 10:32 am
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: Browser / desktop resolution



I am going to be frank and apologize to everyone for this.  I have been
watching this list for 2 weeks and the mass of amounts of email being sent
on a daily basis is annoying.  There are some really good subjects in some
of them but reading through them all is difficult to say the least.  Maybe
I
will just look through the archives if I need anything.  Now, comes my
*whining*.

Jeez. It's a high-volume list. Set your mail filters and get over it.


Rob Keniger



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Re: Browser / desktop resolution

2000-08-14 Thread Todd Ashworth

  What have you tried??  Ever looked into JavaScript??

 I am going to be frank and apologize to everyone for this.  I have been
 watching this list for 2 weeks and the mass of amounts of email being
sent
 on a daily basis is annoying.  There are some really good subjects in
some
 of them but reading through them all is difficult to say the least.
Maybe I
 will just look through the archives if I need anything.  Now, comes my
 *whining*.

-8--- snip ---8-

Well, my take on it is this ...

It was a legitimate ColdFusion question no matter how inappropriate or
trivial it may have seemd to some.  Your comment about "Ever looked into
JavaScript??" was pointless.  The question was, "Is it possible to do with
ColdFusion?", not "Is it possible?".  Maybe this person is new to ColdFusion
and hasn't quite grasped the idea that it is strictly server-side.  Or,
maybe they do, but were still wondering if it could be detected server-side,
etc.  Maybe they were really asking if anyone has come up with a snazzy new
way to do it.  I understand that we should all mess around with the code and
learn from trying new things and having to figure them out, but if we were
expected to do that with every single thing we ever wanted to do, there
would be absolutely no need for all those handy custom tags floating about.
There also wouldn't be a need for fusebox or any structured, organized
coding style of any sort.  Besides, for the one person who asks a question
on this list, there are probably 50 who are curious but have never bothered
to ask, or are curious now that the question has been posed because they
never even thought about it before.  If someone answers the question, then
everyone who is even remotely curious now knows the answer and can file it
away for future use .. or at least remember if it is indeed possible so they
will have a better idea where to and where not to look in the future if they
need to.  I thought we were all on this list to learn as much about the
aspects related to ColdFusion as we can .. even the things we didn't think
we wanted to know?

As I have learned on this list every day, you can never have enough
information.

Todd


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RE: Browser / desktop resolution

2000-08-14 Thread Mark Armendariz

yeah!!!

-Original Message-
From: Todd Ashworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 11:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Browser / desktop resolution


  What have you tried??  Ever looked into JavaScript??

 I am going to be frank and apologize to everyone for this.  I have been
 watching this list for 2 weeks and the mass of amounts of email being
sent
 on a daily basis is annoying.  There are some really good subjects in
some
 of them but reading through them all is difficult to say the least.
Maybe I
 will just look through the archives if I need anything.  Now, comes my
 *whining*.

-8--- snip ---8-

Well, my take on it is this ...

It was a legitimate ColdFusion question no matter how inappropriate or
trivial it may have seemd to some.  Your comment about "Ever looked into
JavaScript??" was pointless.  The question was, "Is it possible to do with
ColdFusion?", not "Is it possible?".  Maybe this person is new to ColdFusion
and hasn't quite grasped the idea that it is strictly server-side.  Or,
maybe they do, but were still wondering if it could be detected server-side,
etc.  Maybe they were really asking if anyone has come up with a snazzy new
way to do it.  I understand that we should all mess around with the code and
learn from trying new things and having to figure them out, but if we were
expected to do that with every single thing we ever wanted to do, there
would be absolutely no need for all those handy custom tags floating about.
There also wouldn't be a need for fusebox or any structured, organized
coding style of any sort.  Besides, for the one person who asks a question
on this list, there are probably 50 who are curious but have never bothered
to ask, or are curious now that the question has been posed because they
never even thought about it before.  If someone answers the question, then
everyone who is even remotely curious now knows the answer and can file it
away for future use .. or at least remember if it is indeed possible so they
will have a better idea where to and where not to look in the future if they
need to.  I thought we were all on this list to learn as much about the
aspects related to ColdFusion as we can .. even the things we didn't think
we wanted to know?

As I have learned on this list every day, you can never have enough
information.

Todd



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