RE: CF and PhotoShop

2003-03-14 Thread mynews
Its basically an executable macro. You can save Actions in 
PS as an .exe called a droplet. Its called a droplet because 
you can just drop a image file on it and all the actions are 
applied to it.

DM

= = = Original message = = =

Sorry for the ignorant question ... please define droplet

H.


 -Original Message-
 From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent:~Thursday, March 13, 2003 10:39 AM
 To:~CF-Talk
 Subject:~RE: CF and PhotoShop
 
 What if you created a droplet and used cfexecute to run the 
droplet? 
 Can you create a droplet that will work on every file in a 
certain 
 directory? 
 
 The main thing that scares me about trying to script photoshop 

 is loading and unloading it. Its a bulky program that can take 

 forever to load. Maybe you could have it load automatically 
on 
 startip.
 
 DM
 
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   Sent: Thursday, 13 March 2003 8:35 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: CF and PhotoShop
   
   
   Any of you ever scripted CF to run tasks in PhotoShop? 
 Can 
 
   it be done?
   CFExecute and all that.  On Win2K?
   
   Any pointers on how to do it?
   
   H.
   
   
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RE: CF and PhotoShop

2003-03-14 Thread Adrocknaphobia Jones
I agree. ImageReady isn't a Photoshop replacement, but I do use it for
all batch processing with droplets and it works great. It has a lower
over head than PS so running batches doesn't take up all your resources.
Although I've never tried to use cfexecute to run droplets live on a
server. Sounds like a good experiment.

Adam Wayne Lehman
Web Systems Developer
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Distance Education Division


-Original Message-
From: Jason Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 8:57 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF and PhotoShop

Don't know if it was answered - but that I know of droplet is an Adobe
Image Ready term - same as macro or  I think Macr MX is called a
sriptlet etc etc.
jay miller
P.S. I was never impressed with ImageReady but it did have photoshopts
basic image editing and much nicer batch processing - perhaps a
possibility? - may allow for com - 

Owens, Howard wrote:


Sorry for the ignorant question ... please define droplet



H.





  

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What if you created a droplet and used cfexecute to run the droplet? 

Can you create a droplet that will work on every file in a certain 

directory? 



The main thing that scares me about trying to script photoshop 

is loading and unloading it. Its a bulky program that can take 

forever to load. Maybe you could have it load automatically on 

startip.



DM



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From: Owens, Howard [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, 13 March 2003 8:35 AM

To: CF-Talk

Subject: CF and PhotoShop





Any of you ever scripted CF to run tasks in PhotoShop?  Can 



it be done?

CFExecute and all that.  On Win2K?



Any pointers on how to do it?



H.





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RE: CF and PhotoShop

2003-03-14 Thread Haggerty, Mike
Adobe Photoshop has an excellent scripting extension you can download from
their Web site, and I have used it via Windows Scripting Host to resize
images, apply actions to images, and generally do all things Photoshop. The
scripting extension comes with a (fairly) complete DOM that actually gives
you a lot of insight into how particular filters were produced. You can use
javascript or VBA to automate the production of images, and provide numerous
examples of how to script the application. 

That being said, the one time I tried scripting the application via
Coldfusion was catastrophic, and I do not believe this was due to a lack of
skill on my part. I was trying to take all the files in a directory and
resize them by a certain percentage (this is a simple task). Coldfusion 5
ran out of memory, started throwing Pcode errors, and restarted frequently.
I called Abode for support and they were horrified by what I was trying to
do, saying the product was not intended for this use (they don't seem to
like programmers over there).

Eventually, the server itself would lock up almost immediately after calling
the object - so if you were thinking about this for a production environment
you may want to think of demoting it to a secondary server and plan on
having it go out of commission often. Or, put it on a desktop machine and
run it via a scheduled task or cron job (which is what I do these days).

M

-Original Message-
From: Pablo Varando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:23 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF and PhotoShop


More then likely he's trying to generate images on the fly...

The only way I could even imagine achieving this would be to see what type
(if any) of COM connections Photoshop has. I use Photoshop extensively, but
have never really tried to integrate the two.

The best thing you can do is to download the OLEView application:
http://www.microsoft.com/com/resources/OVI386.EXE

and install it on the machine that had Photoshop, then see if Photoshop has
COM connections available.. (Not even sure it does, or that it will allow
you to do anything useful..)

If you are not familiar with COM, check out this basic tutorial:
http://www.cfcomet.com/general_COM/OLEView/

Good luck :)
Pablo

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Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: CF and PhotoShop


 can i ask why you would want to do this?

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 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 4:34 PM
 Subject: CF and PhotoShop


  Any of you ever scripted CF to run tasks in PhotoShop?  Can it be 
  done? CFExecute and all that.  On Win2K?
 
  Any pointers on how to do it?
 
  H.
 
 
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  InsideVC.com/Ventura County Star
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Re: CF and PhotoShop

2003-03-14 Thread Jason Miller
Yup - you nailed all the reasons below why I use image ready for batch.

Although I have found batch processing in Macromedia MX to be just as 
fast and robust. Perhaps that is even a better option for the more 
possiblye likeli support of being able to use other Macr tools like 
coldfusion.. just another idea..

Actually - I hope the original poster -if he solves the issue responds 
back to the list with his findings.. my mind envisions me on a beach 
chair : while an image editing software is working it's but off ; with 
the thought of setting something like that up.

I didn't even consider that route and am going the flash mx - load jpg 
to create certain graphical elements as flash which indeed could be 
handled as jpgs instead with some functionality loss - but I would love 
to test them together.

good luck
jay miller

Adrocknaphobia Jones wrote:

I agree. ImageReady isn't a Photoshop replacement, but I do use it for
all batch processing with droplets and it works great. It has a lower
over head than PS so running batches doesn't take up all your resources.
Although I've never tried to use cfexecute to run droplets live on a
server. Sounds like a good experiment.

Adam Wayne Lehman
Web Systems Developer
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Distance Education Division


-Original Message-
From: Jason Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 8:57 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF and PhotoShop

Don't know if it was answered - but that I know of droplet is an Adobe
Image Ready term - same as macro or  I think Macr MX is called a
sriptlet etc etc.
jay miller
P.S. I was never impressed with ImageReady but it did have photoshopts
basic image editing and much nicer batch processing - perhaps a
possibility? - may allow for com - 

Owens, Howard wrote:


Sorry for the ignorant question ... please define droplet



H.





  

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SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]

Sent:  Thursday, March 13, 2003 10:39 AM

To:CF-Talk

Subject:   RE: CF and PhotoShop



What if you created a droplet and used cfexecute to run the droplet? 

Can you create a droplet that will work on every file in a certain 

directory? 



The main thing that scares me about trying to script photoshop 

is loading and unloading it. Its a bulky program that can take 

forever to load. Maybe you could have it load automatically on 

startip.



DM



=



-Original Message-

From: Owens, Howard [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]

Sent: Thursday, 13 March 2003 8:35 AM

To: CF-Talk

Subject: CF and PhotoShop





Any of you ever scripted CF to run tasks in PhotoShop?  Can 



it be done?

CFExecute and all that.  On Win2K?



Any pointers on how to do it?



H.





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Internet Operations Coordinator

InsideVC.com/Ventura County Star

[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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RE: CF and PhotoShop

2003-03-14 Thread Owens, Howard
Jay:

You could probably do what you want right now with ImageMagic and
GhostScript.  The only reason I'm looking at abandoning that environment is
that I have seemingly hit an impossible error to solve.  Your mileage may
vary.  But IM and GS, when they work right, are an incredible pair of image
processing tools. And entirely compatible with CF.

H.


 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Miller [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:18 AM
 To:   CF-Talk
 Subject:  Re: CF and PhotoShop
 
 Yup - you nailed all the reasons below why I use image ready for batch.
 
 Although I have found batch processing in Macromedia MX to be just as 
 fast and robust. Perhaps that is even a better option for the more 
 possiblye likeli support of being able to use other Macr tools like 
 coldfusion.. just another idea..
 
 Actually - I hope the original poster -if he solves the issue responds 
 back to the list with his findings.. my mind envisions me on a beach 
 chair : while an image editing software is working it's but off ; with 
 the thought of setting something like that up.
 
 I didn't even consider that route and am going the flash mx - load jpg 
 to create certain graphical elements as flash which indeed could be 
 handled as jpgs instead with some functionality loss - but I would love 
 to test them together.
 
 good luck
 jay miller
 
 Adrocknaphobia Jones wrote:
 
 I agree. ImageReady isn't a Photoshop replacement, but I do use it for
 all batch processing with droplets and it works great. It has a lower
 over head than PS so running batches doesn't take up all your resources.
 Although I've never tried to use cfexecute to run droplets live on a
 server. Sounds like a good experiment.
 
 Adam Wayne Lehman
 Web Systems Developer
 Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
 Distance Education Division
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 8:57 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CF and PhotoShop
 
 Don't know if it was answered - but that I know of droplet is an Adobe
 Image Ready term - same as macro or  I think Macr MX is called a
 sriptlet etc etc.
 jay miller
 P.S. I was never impressed with ImageReady but it did have photoshopts
 basic image editing and much nicer batch processing - perhaps a
 possibility? - may allow for com - 
 
 Owens, Howard wrote:
 
 
 Sorry for the ignorant question ... please define droplet
 
 
 
 H.
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  [
 SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
 
 Sent:Thursday, March 13, 2003 10:39 AM
 
 To:  CF-Talk
 
 Subject: RE: CF and PhotoShop
 
 
 
 What if you created a droplet and used cfexecute to run the droplet? 
 
 Can you create a droplet that will work on every file in a certain 
 
 directory? 
 
 
 
 The main thing that scares me about trying to script photoshop 
 
 is loading and unloading it. Its a bulky program that can take 
 
 forever to load. Maybe you could have it load automatically on 
 
 startip.
 
 
 
 DM
 
 
 
 =
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 
 From: Owens, Howard [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
 
 Sent: Thursday, 13 March 2003 8:35 AM
 
 To: CF-Talk
 
 Subject: CF and PhotoShop
 
 
 
 
 
 Any of you ever scripted CF to run tasks in PhotoShop?  Can 
 
 
 
 it be done?
 
 CFExecute and all that.  On Win2K?
 
 
 
 Any pointers on how to do it?
 
 
 
 H.
 
 
 
 
 
 ~~
 
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 Internet Operations Coordinator
 
 InsideVC.com/Ventura County Star
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 AIM: GoCatGo1956
 
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RE: CF and PhotoShop

2003-03-13 Thread Adrocknaphobia Jones
What do you mean PS is scriptable with javaScript? Do you have any URLs
about this? Are you trying to run batches client-side?

Adam Wayne Lehman
Web Systems Developer
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Distance Education Division


-Original Message-
From: Owens, Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF and PhotoShop

We've hit a brick wall in dealing with IM on this particular server ...
the
problem isn't IM, it's GhostScript.  It just refuses to run on this one
machine.

To answer the previous question -- I need to batch convert, automated
like,
PDFs to JPGs.  Besides the previous problems with GS, PS is just much
more
stable in dealing with PDFs than GS.

Since I sent my e-mail, I've learned that PS is scriptable with
JavaScript
on Win, so I'll be looking into that, I guess.

Or the other option is switch the imaging processing to a Mac and use
AppleScript. We're also looking into that.

H.



 -Original Message-
 From: Buckland, Ramon [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 4:34 PM
 To:   CF-Talk
 Subject:  RE: CF and PhotoShop
 
 Depending on what type of processing you want, 
 you may find the solution in ImageMagick 
 http://www.imagemagick.org/
 
 There is abit of work done with ImageMagick and ColdFusion tags, just
 google for more info.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Owens, Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, 13 March 2003 8:35 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: CF and PhotoShop
  
  
  Any of you ever scripted CF to run tasks in PhotoShop?  Can 
  it be done?
  CFExecute and all that.  On Win2K?
  
  Any pointers on how to do it?
  
  H.
  
  
  ~~
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  Internet Operations Coordinator
  InsideVC.com/Ventura County Star
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  AIM: GoCatGo1956
  ~~
  
  
 

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RE: CF and PhotoShop

2003-03-13 Thread Joshua Miller
For image automation and conversion I'd look into Equilibrium
Debabelizer Pro (http://www.equilibrium.com). This application has been
around for years and it's always been a favorite of image manipulators
everywhere. I'm sure it has scripting capabilities, it's designed to
automate massive image conversion projects.

Good luck!

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Garrison Enterprises Inc.
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-Original Message-
From: Adrocknaphobia Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF and PhotoShop


What do you mean PS is scriptable with javaScript? Do you have any URLs
about this? Are you trying to run batches client-side?

Adam Wayne Lehman
Web Systems Developer
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Distance Education Division


-Original Message-
From: Owens, Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF and PhotoShop

We've hit a brick wall in dealing with IM on this particular server ...
the problem isn't IM, it's GhostScript.  It just refuses to run on this
one machine.

To answer the previous question -- I need to batch convert, automated
like, PDFs to JPGs.  Besides the previous problems with GS, PS is just
much more stable in dealing with PDFs than GS.

Since I sent my e-mail, I've learned that PS is scriptable with
JavaScript on Win, so I'll be looking into that, I guess.

Or the other option is switch the imaging processing to a Mac and use
AppleScript. We're also looking into that.

H.



 -Original Message-
 From: Buckland, Ramon [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 4:34 PM
 To:   CF-Talk
 Subject:  RE: CF and PhotoShop
 
 Depending on what type of processing you want,
 you may find the solution in ImageMagick 
 http://www.imagemagick.org/
 
 There is abit of work done with ImageMagick and ColdFusion tags, just 
 google for more info.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Owens, Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, 13 March 2003 8:35 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: CF and PhotoShop
  
  
  Any of you ever scripted CF to run tasks in PhotoShop?  Can
  it be done?
  CFExecute and all that.  On Win2K?
  
  Any pointers on how to do it?
  
  H.
  
  
  ~~
  Howard Owens
  Internet Operations Coordinator
  InsideVC.com/Ventura County Star
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  AIM: GoCatGo1956 
  ~~
  
  
 


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RE: CF and PhotoShop

2003-03-13 Thread mynews
What if you created a droplet and used cfexecute to run the droplet? 
Can you create a droplet that will work on every file in a certain 
directory? 

The main thing that scares me about trying to script photoshop 
is loading and unloading it. Its a bulky program that can take 
forever to load. Maybe you could have it load automatically on 
startip.

DM

=
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Owens, Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, 13 March 2003 8:35 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: CF and PhotoShop
  
  
  Any of you ever scripted CF to run tasks in PhotoShop?  Can 

  it be done?
  CFExecute and all that.  On Win2K?
  
  Any pointers on how to do it?
  
  H.
  
  
  ~~
  Howard Owens
  Internet Operations Coordinator
  InsideVC.com/Ventura County Star
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  AIM: GoCatGo1956
  ~~
  
  
 


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RE: CF and PhotoShop

2003-03-13 Thread Jeff Beer
JASC PaintShop Pro has a lot of functionality as far as automated
processes and is mucho cheaper.  Plus, it's mucho smaller and loads
pretty fast.  I use it for all the quick touchups and text changes, etc,
and to process entire directories of graphics (adding borders,
watermarks, etc).


-Original Message-
From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF and PhotoShop


For image automation and conversion I'd look into Equilibrium
Debabelizer Pro (http://www.equilibrium.com). This application has been
around for years and it's always been a favorite of image manipulators
everywhere. I'm sure it has scripting capabilities, it's designed to
automate massive image conversion projects.

Good luck!

Joshua Miller
Head Programmer / IT Manager
Garrison Enterprises Inc.
www.garrisonenterprises.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(704) 569-9044 ext. 254
 

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-Original Message-
From: Adrocknaphobia Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF and PhotoShop


What do you mean PS is scriptable with javaScript? Do you have any URLs
about this? Are you trying to run batches client-side?

Adam Wayne Lehman
Web Systems Developer
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Distance Education Division


-Original Message-
From: Owens, Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF and PhotoShop

We've hit a brick wall in dealing with IM on this particular server ...
the problem isn't IM, it's GhostScript.  It just refuses to run on this
one machine.

To answer the previous question -- I need to batch convert, automated
like, PDFs to JPGs.  Besides the previous problems with GS, PS is just
much more stable in dealing with PDFs than GS.

Since I sent my e-mail, I've learned that PS is scriptable with
JavaScript on Win, so I'll be looking into that, I guess.

Or the other option is switch the imaging processing to a Mac and use
AppleScript. We're also looking into that.

H.



 -Original Message-
 From: Buckland, Ramon [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 4:34 PM
 To:   CF-Talk
 Subject:  RE: CF and PhotoShop
 
 Depending on what type of processing you want,
 you may find the solution in ImageMagick
 http://www.imagemagick.org/
 
 There is abit of work done with ImageMagick and ColdFusion tags, just
 google for more info.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Owens, Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, 13 March 2003 8:35 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: CF and PhotoShop
  
  
  Any of you ever scripted CF to run tasks in PhotoShop?  Can it be 
  done? CFExecute and all that.  On Win2K?
  
  Any pointers on how to do it?
  
  H.
  
  
  ~~
  Howard Owens
  Internet Operations Coordinator
  InsideVC.com/Ventura County Star
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  AIM: GoCatGo1956
  ~~
  
  
 



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RE: CF and PhotoShop

2003-03-13 Thread Justin Hansen
http://efflare.com/products/

These guys have very nice CFX Image maniplation tags.
I use ImageFlare, it works great!

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-Original Message-
From: Owens, Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 3:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF and PhotoShop


Any of you ever scripted CF to run tasks in PhotoShop?  Can it be done?
CFExecute and all that.  On Win2K?

Any pointers on how to do it?

H.


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RE: CF and PhotoShop

2003-03-13 Thread Owens, Howard
Sorry for the ignorant question ... please define droplet

H.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 10:39 AM
 To:   CF-Talk
 Subject:  RE: CF and PhotoShop
 
 What if you created a droplet and used cfexecute to run the droplet? 
 Can you create a droplet that will work on every file in a certain 
 directory? 
 
 The main thing that scares me about trying to script photoshop 
 is loading and unloading it. Its a bulky program that can take 
 forever to load. Maybe you could have it load automatically on 
 startip.
 
 DM
 
 =
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Owens, Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, 13 March 2003 8:35 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: CF and PhotoShop
   
   
   Any of you ever scripted CF to run tasks in PhotoShop?  Can 
 
   it be done?
   CFExecute and all that.  On Win2K?
   
   Any pointers on how to do it?
   
   H.
   
   
   ~~
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   Internet Operations Coordinator
   InsideVC.com/Ventura County Star
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   AIM: GoCatGo1956
   ~~
   
   
  
 
 
 
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RE: CF and PhotoShop

2003-03-13 Thread Owens, Howard
Here's your link:

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=1536

There's also a few tools out there to turn JavaScipt into a desktop
scripting tool.

H.



 -Original Message-
 From: Adrocknaphobia Jones [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 10:13 AM
 To:   CF-Talk
 Subject:  RE: CF and PhotoShop
 
 What do you mean PS is scriptable with javaScript? Do you have any URLs
 about this? Are you trying to run batches client-side?
 
 Adam Wayne Lehman
 Web Systems Developer
 Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
 Distance Education Division
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Owens, Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:58 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CF and PhotoShop
 
 We've hit a brick wall in dealing with IM on this particular server ...
 the
 problem isn't IM, it's GhostScript.  It just refuses to run on this one
 machine.
 
 To answer the previous question -- I need to batch convert, automated
 like,
 PDFs to JPGs.  Besides the previous problems with GS, PS is just much
 more
 stable in dealing with PDFs than GS.
 
 Since I sent my e-mail, I've learned that PS is scriptable with
 JavaScript
 on Win, so I'll be looking into that, I guess.
 
 Or the other option is switch the imaging processing to a Mac and use
 AppleScript. We're also looking into that.
 
 H.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Buckland, Ramon [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent:   Wednesday, March 12, 2003 4:34 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject:RE: CF and PhotoShop
  
  Depending on what type of processing you want, 
  you may find the solution in ImageMagick 
  http://www.imagemagick.org/
  
  There is abit of work done with ImageMagick and ColdFusion tags, just
  google for more info.
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Owens, Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, 13 March 2003 8:35 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: CF and PhotoShop
   
   
   Any of you ever scripted CF to run tasks in PhotoShop?  Can 
   it be done?
   CFExecute and all that.  On Win2K?
   
   Any pointers on how to do it?
   
   H.
   
   
   ~~
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   Internet Operations Coordinator
   InsideVC.com/Ventura County Star
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   AIM: GoCatGo1956
   ~~
   
   
  
 
 
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RE: CF and PhotoShop

2003-03-13 Thread Owens, Howard
Also, don't really need to worry about load and unload ... PS will just stay
on/open ... forever.

H.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 10:39 AM
 To:   CF-Talk
 Subject:  RE: CF and PhotoShop
 
 What if you created a droplet and used cfexecute to run the droplet? 
 Can you create a droplet that will work on every file in a certain 
 directory? 
 
 The main thing that scares me about trying to script photoshop 
 is loading and unloading it. Its a bulky program that can take 
 forever to load. Maybe you could have it load automatically on 
 startip.
 
 DM
 
 =
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Owens, Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, 13 March 2003 8:35 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: CF and PhotoShop
   
   
   Any of you ever scripted CF to run tasks in PhotoShop?  Can 
 
   it be done?
   CFExecute and all that.  On Win2K?
   
   Any pointers on how to do it?
   
   H.
   
   
   ~~
   Howard Owens
   Internet Operations Coordinator
   InsideVC.com/Ventura County Star
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   AIM: GoCatGo1956
   ~~
   
   
  
 
 
 
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RE: CF and PhotoShop

2003-03-13 Thread Owens, Howard
Doesn't look like it handles PDFs :-(

http://www.equilibrium.com/Internet/Equil/Products/DeBabelizer/Product+Tour/
File+Conversion.htm

H.


 -Original Message-
 From: Joshua Miller [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 10:28 AM
 To:   CF-Talk
 Subject:  RE: CF and PhotoShop
 
 For image automation and conversion I'd look into Equilibrium
 Debabelizer Pro (http://www.equilibrium.com). This application has been
 around for years and it's always been a favorite of image manipulators
 everywhere. I'm sure it has scripting capabilities, it's designed to
 automate massive image conversion projects.
 
 Good luck!
 
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 Garrison Enterprises Inc.
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 -Original Message-
 From: Adrocknaphobia Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:13 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CF and PhotoShop
 
 
 What do you mean PS is scriptable with javaScript? Do you have any URLs
 about this? Are you trying to run batches client-side?
 
 Adam Wayne Lehman
 Web Systems Developer
 Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
 Distance Education Division
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Owens, Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:58 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CF and PhotoShop
 
 We've hit a brick wall in dealing with IM on this particular server ...
 the problem isn't IM, it's GhostScript.  It just refuses to run on this
 one machine.
 
 To answer the previous question -- I need to batch convert, automated
 like, PDFs to JPGs.  Besides the previous problems with GS, PS is just
 much more stable in dealing with PDFs than GS.
 
 Since I sent my e-mail, I've learned that PS is scriptable with
 JavaScript on Win, so I'll be looking into that, I guess.
 
 Or the other option is switch the imaging processing to a Mac and use
 AppleScript. We're also looking into that.
 
 H.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Buckland, Ramon [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent:   Wednesday, March 12, 2003 4:34 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject:RE: CF and PhotoShop
  
  Depending on what type of processing you want,
  you may find the solution in ImageMagick 
  http://www.imagemagick.org/
  
  There is abit of work done with ImageMagick and ColdFusion tags, just 
  google for more info.
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Owens, Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, 13 March 2003 8:35 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: CF and PhotoShop
   
   
   Any of you ever scripted CF to run tasks in PhotoShop?  Can
   it be done?
   CFExecute and all that.  On Win2K?
   
   Any pointers on how to do it?
   
   H.
   
   
   ~~
   Howard Owens
   Internet Operations Coordinator
   InsideVC.com/Ventura County Star
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   AIM: GoCatGo1956 
   ~~
   
   
  
 
 
 
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Re: CF and PhotoShop

2003-03-13 Thread Jason Miller
Don't know if it was answered - but that I know of droplet is an Adobe
Image Ready term - same as macro or  I think Macr MX is called a
sriptlet etc etc.
jay miller
P.S. I was never impressed with ImageReady but it did have photoshopts
basic image editing and much nicer batch processing - perhaps a
possibility? - may allow for com - 

Owens, Howard wrote:


Sorry for the ignorant question ... please define droplet



H.





  

-Original Message-

From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  [
SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]

Sent:   Thursday, March 13, 2003 10:39 AM

To: CF-Talk

Subject:RE: CF and PhotoShop



What if you created a droplet and used cfexecute to run the droplet? 

Can you create a droplet that will work on every file in a certain 

directory? 



The main thing that scares me about trying to script photoshop 

is loading and unloading it. Its a bulky program that can take 

forever to load. Maybe you could have it load automatically on 

startip.



DM



=



-Original Message-

From: Owens, Howard [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]

Sent: Thursday, 13 March 2003 8:35 AM

To: CF-Talk

Subject: CF and PhotoShop





Any of you ever scripted CF to run tasks in PhotoShop?  Can 



it be done?

CFExecute and all that.  On Win2K?



Any pointers on how to do it?



H.





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Internet Operations Coordinator

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Re: CF and PhotoShop

2003-03-12 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
can i ask why you would want to do this?

- Original Message -
From: Owens, Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 4:34 PM
Subject: CF and PhotoShop


 Any of you ever scripted CF to run tasks in PhotoShop?  Can it be done?
 CFExecute and all that.  On Win2K?

 Any pointers on how to do it?

 H.


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Re: CF and PhotoShop

2003-03-12 Thread Pablo Varando
More then likely he's trying to generate images on the fly...

The only way I could even imagine achieving this would be to see what type
(if any) of COM connections Photoshop has. I use Photoshop extensively, but
have never really tried to integrate the two.

The best thing you can do is to download the OLEView application:
http://www.microsoft.com/com/resources/OVI386.EXE

and install it on the machine that had Photoshop, then see if Photoshop has
COM connections available.. (Not even sure it does, or that it will allow
you to do anything useful..)

If you are not familiar with COM, check out this basic tutorial:
http://www.cfcomet.com/general_COM/OLEView/

Good luck :)
Pablo

- Original Message -
From: Michael T. Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: CF and PhotoShop


 can i ask why you would want to do this?

 - Original Message -
 From: Owens, Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 4:34 PM
 Subject: CF and PhotoShop


  Any of you ever scripted CF to run tasks in PhotoShop?  Can it be done?
  CFExecute and all that.  On Win2K?
 
  Any pointers on how to do it?
 
  H.
 
 
  ~~
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  Internet Operations Coordinator
  InsideVC.com/Ventura County Star
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  AIM: GoCatGo1956
  ~~
 
 
 
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RE: CF and PhotoShop

2003-03-12 Thread Jim Davis
The CorelDRAW! suite of applications is accessible via COM VBA - perhaps
something could be done with that?

Besides - everybody knows that Corel is better anyways. ;^)

Jim Davis

 -Original Message-
 From: Pablo Varando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:23 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CF and PhotoShop
 
 
 More then likely he's trying to generate images on the fly...
 
 The only way I could even imagine achieving this would be to 
 see what type (if any) of COM connections Photoshop has. I 
 use Photoshop extensively, but have never really tried to 
 integrate the two.
 
 The best thing you can do is to download the OLEView 
 application: http://www.microsoft.com/com/resources/OVI386.EXE
 
 and install it on the machine that had Photoshop, then see if 
 Photoshop has COM connections available.. (Not even sure it 
 does, or that it will allow you to do anything useful..)
 
 If you are not familiar with COM, check out this basic 
 tutorial: http://www.cfcomet.com/general_COM/OLEView/
 
 Good luck :)
 Pablo
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Michael T. Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 6:17 PM
 Subject: Re: CF and PhotoShop
 
 
  can i ask why you would want to do this?
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Owens, Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 4:34 PM
  Subject: CF and PhotoShop
 
 
   Any of you ever scripted CF to run tasks in PhotoShop?  Can it be 
   done? CFExecute and all that.  On Win2K?
  
   Any pointers on how to do it?
  
   H.
  
  
   ~~
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   Internet Operations Coordinator
   InsideVC.com/Ventura County Star
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   AIM: GoCatGo1956 
   ~~
  
  
  
 
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Re: CF and PhotoShop

2003-03-12 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
i would not even make jokes about corel being better that adobe photoshop...
you must live in a bubble in a dark hole and use a mac  :-)


- Original Message -
From: Jim Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:32 PM
Subject: RE: CF and PhotoShop


 The CorelDRAW! suite of applications is accessible via COM VBA - perhaps
 something could be done with that?

 Besides - everybody knows that Corel is better anyways. ;^)

 Jim Davis

  -Original Message-
  From: Pablo Varando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:23 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: CF and PhotoShop
 
 
  More then likely he's trying to generate images on the fly...
 
  The only way I could even imagine achieving this would be to
  see what type (if any) of COM connections Photoshop has. I
  use Photoshop extensively, but have never really tried to
  integrate the two.
 
  The best thing you can do is to download the OLEView
  application: http://www.microsoft.com/com/resources/OVI386.EXE
 
  and install it on the machine that had Photoshop, then see if
  Photoshop has COM connections available.. (Not even sure it
  does, or that it will allow you to do anything useful..)
 
  If you are not familiar with COM, check out this basic
  tutorial: http://www.cfcomet.com/general_COM/OLEView/
 
  Good luck :)
  Pablo
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Michael T. Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 6:17 PM
  Subject: Re: CF and PhotoShop
 
 
   can i ask why you would want to do this?
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Owens, Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 4:34 PM
   Subject: CF and PhotoShop
  
  
Any of you ever scripted CF to run tasks in PhotoShop?  Can it be
done? CFExecute and all that.  On Win2K?
   
Any pointers on how to do it?
   
H.
   
   
~~
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Internet Operations Coordinator
InsideVC.com/Ventura County Star
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
AIM: GoCatGo1956
~~
   
   
  
 
 
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RE: CF and PhotoShop

2003-03-12 Thread Buckland, Ramon
Depending on what type of processing you want, 
you may find the solution in ImageMagick 
http://www.imagemagick.org/

There is abit of work done with ImageMagick and ColdFusion tags, just
google for more info.


 -Original Message-
 From: Owens, Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, 13 March 2003 8:35 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: CF and PhotoShop
 
 
 Any of you ever scripted CF to run tasks in PhotoShop?  Can 
 it be done?
 CFExecute and all that.  On Win2K?
 
 Any pointers on how to do it?
 
 H.
 
 
 ~~
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 Internet Operations Coordinator
 InsideVC.com/Ventura County Star
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 AIM: GoCatGo1956
 ~~
 
 
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RE: CF and PhotoShop

2003-03-12 Thread Lee Fuller
dOh!  ducking

| -Original Message-
| From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
| Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 4:36 PM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: Re: CF and PhotoShop
| 
| 
| i would not even make jokes about corel being better that 
| adobe photoshop... you must live in a bubble in a dark hole 
| and use a mac  :-)
| 
| 
| - Original Message -
| From: Jim Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:32 PM
| Subject: RE: CF and PhotoShop
| 
| 
|  The CorelDRAW! suite of applications is accessible via COM VBA - 
|  perhaps something could be done with that?
| 
|  Besides - everybody knows that Corel is better anyways. ;^)
| 
|  Jim Davis
| 
|   -Original Message-
|   From: Pablo Varando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
|   Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:23 PM
|   To: CF-Talk
|   Subject: Re: CF and PhotoShop
|  
|  
|   More then likely he's trying to generate images on the fly...
|  
|   The only way I could even imagine achieving this would be to see 
|   what type (if any) of COM connections Photoshop has. I 
| use Photoshop 
|   extensively, but have never really tried to integrate the two.
|  
|   The best thing you can do is to download the OLEView
|   application: http://www.microsoft.com/com/resources/OVI386.EXE
|  
|   and install it on the machine that had Photoshop, then see if 
|   Photoshop has COM connections available.. (Not even sure 
| it does, or 
|   that it will allow you to do anything useful..)
|  
|   If you are not familiar with COM, check out this basic
|   tutorial: http://www.cfcomet.com/general_COM/OLEView/
|  
|   Good luck :)
|   Pablo
|  
|   - Original Message -
|   From: Michael T. Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|   To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|   Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 6:17 PM
|   Subject: Re: CF and PhotoShop
|  
|  
|can i ask why you would want to do this?
|   
|- Original Message -
|From: Owens, Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 4:34 PM
|Subject: CF and PhotoShop
|   
|   
| Any of you ever scripted CF to run tasks in 
| PhotoShop?  Can it 
| be done? CFExecute and all that.  On Win2K?
|
| Any pointers on how to do it?
|
| H.
|
|
| ~~
| Howard Owens
| Internet Operations Coordinator
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RE: CF and PhotoShop

2003-03-12 Thread Owens, Howard
We've hit a brick wall in dealing with IM on this particular server ... the
problem isn't IM, it's GhostScript.  It just refuses to run on this one
machine.

To answer the previous question -- I need to batch convert, automated like,
PDFs to JPGs.  Besides the previous problems with GS, PS is just much more
stable in dealing with PDFs than GS.

Since I sent my e-mail, I've learned that PS is scriptable with JavaScript
on Win, so I'll be looking into that, I guess.

Or the other option is switch the imaging processing to a Mac and use
AppleScript. We're also looking into that.

H.



 -Original Message-
 From: Buckland, Ramon [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 4:34 PM
 To:   CF-Talk
 Subject:  RE: CF and PhotoShop
 
 Depending on what type of processing you want, 
 you may find the solution in ImageMagick 
 http://www.imagemagick.org/
 
 There is abit of work done with ImageMagick and ColdFusion tags, just
 google for more info.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Owens, Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, 13 March 2003 8:35 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: CF and PhotoShop
  
  
  Any of you ever scripted CF to run tasks in PhotoShop?  Can 
  it be done?
  CFExecute and all that.  On Win2K?
  
  Any pointers on how to do it?
  
  H.
  
  
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RE: CF and PhotoShop

2003-03-12 Thread Parker, Kevin
Dreamnweaver uses Action Script based on Java Scripot I believe. Wonder if
Fireworks does the same and if that has option for you.


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-Original Message-
From: Owens, Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 13 March 2003 11:28 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF and PhotoShop


We've hit a brick wall in dealing with IM on this particular server ... the
problem isn't IM, it's GhostScript.  It just refuses to run on this one
machine.

To answer the previous question -- I need to batch convert, automated like,
PDFs to JPGs.  Besides the previous problems with GS, PS is just much more
stable in dealing with PDFs than GS.

Since I sent my e-mail, I've learned that PS is scriptable with JavaScript
on Win, so I'll be looking into that, I guess.

Or the other option is switch the imaging processing to a Mac and use
AppleScript. We're also looking into that.

H.



 -Original Message-
 From: Buckland, Ramon [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 4:34 PM
 To:   CF-Talk
 Subject:  RE: CF and PhotoShop
 
 Depending on what type of processing you want, 
 you may find the solution in ImageMagick 
 http://www.imagemagick.org/
 
 There is abit of work done with ImageMagick and ColdFusion tags, just
 google for more info.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Owens, Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, 13 March 2003 8:35 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: CF and PhotoShop
  
  
  Any of you ever scripted CF to run tasks in PhotoShop?  Can 
  it be done?
  CFExecute and all that.  On Win2K?
  
  Any pointers on how to do it?
  
  H.
  
  
  ~~
  Howard Owens
  Internet Operations Coordinator
  InsideVC.com/Ventura County Star
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  AIM: GoCatGo1956
  ~~
  
  
 

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