Re: CFIdea: how to implement
Thats one of those snippets of code which although I have no need for it at
the moment I just have to keep - at some point in the future I just know
it's going to save me a couple of days headscratching.
Thanks!
On 8/22/06, Ben Nadel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I say go really really simple. At the bottom of the article page include
some javascript like this:
script type=text/javascript
setTimeout(
// Function to get called after 60 seconds.
function(){
var imgRequest = new Image();
imgRequest.src =
reward_user.cfm?id=#...#article_id=#...#key=#Hash( SESSION.CFID
SESSION.CFTOKEN id article_id )#
},
// Run after 60 seconds
60 * 1000
);
/script
This would, after 60 seconds, create an image and then try to set it's
source to a CFM page. This would in essence call that CFM page. The image
would break (or you could return a gif based on CFContent). The
reward_user.cfm page would reward the user based on the user id (id), the
article id (article_id) and a key (the HASH value). The HASH value is
meant
to help stop anyone else from guessing a reward URL. Then on the
reward_user.cfm page, you would want to make sure you never credited
someone
twice I suppose.
...
Ben Nadel
www.bennadel.com
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 11:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFIdea: how to implement
I have a CFidea and I wanted to seek advice on the best way to implement
it.
I'm concerned that this idea will be taxing on my shared web hosting
server.
After buildinig sites for employors and contracts, I've finally built a
site
for myself.
My site is a news and downloadable magazine (which I sell for $9.95/yr)
THE IDEA
On my site(s), I posts related stories from within my industry. I want to
reward my readers and build loyalty. I want to reward my readers for each
story they read with X point(s). As long as they stay on the page for
more
than 10-15 (?) seconds they will be rewarded. I want to track this to
avoid
users from just clicking through stories to get points. Once they
accumulate x number of points, they will receive one of the four issues
for
free. If they collect enough points, they can get an entire year for free
and earn additional issues beyond their first year or give their points to
friends or co-workers. When visitors reads stories from my site, my google
ads are displayed which makes me money. I also want to convey to potential
advertisers that our we reward our reader base. No other news site within
this industry does this.
THE CODE
The reader signs up by providing only their e-mail address and confirm
their
e-mail address through an automated reply from my site with a confirmation
link they must click on.
As an option if they want to earn reward points, I ask them to sign in
with
just their e-mail address to initiate and track their points, then get the
current time with #CreateODBCDateTime(now())# and store it as a session
variable. When they click and go to another page on the site, even if it's
not a story, capture the #CreateODBCDateTime(now())# again and compare the
times and update their profile with X point(s) if the time difference
meets
my x seconds per page criteria. If someone just rapidly clicks from story
to
story to accumalate points, the points will not be counted. If they like
the
site and decide to become a loyal reader, then they will receive these
additonal benefits and be rewarded for their loyalty.
Thoughts on the coding approach?
Thanks in advance.
D-
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Re: CFIdea: how to implement
What about if someone reads an artice, and then navigates to a different site? If they are not hitting another page of yours, then the points tracking wont work. You might want to concider and AJAX solution for this. On 8/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a CFidea and I wanted to seek advice on the best way to implement it. I'm concerned that this idea will be taxing on my shared web hosting server. After buildinig sites for employors and contracts, I've finally built a site for myself. My site is a news and downloadable magazine (which I sell for $9.95/yr) THE IDEA On my site(s), I posts related stories from within my industry. I want to reward my readers and build loyalty. I want to reward my readers for each story they read with X point(s). As long as they stay on the page for more than 10-15 (?) seconds they will be rewarded. I want to track this to avoid users from just clicking through stories to get points. Once they accumulate x number of points, they will receive one of the four issues for free. If they collect enough points, they can get an entire year for free and earn additional issues beyond their first year or give their points to friends or co-workers. When visitors reads stories from my site, my google ads are displayed which makes me money. I also want to convey to potential advertisers that our we reward our reader base. No other news site within this industry does this. THE CODE The reader signs up by providing only their e-mail address and confirm their e-mail address through an automated reply from my site with a confirmation link they must click on. As an option if they want to earn reward points, I ask them to sign in with just their e-mail address to initiate and track their points, then get the current time with #CreateODBCDateTime(now())# and store it as a session variable. When they click and go to another page on the site, even if it's not a story, capture the #CreateODBCDateTime(now())# again and compare the times and update their profile with X point(s) if the time difference meets my x seconds per page criteria. If someone just rapidly clicks from story to story to accumalate points, the points will not be counted. If they like the site and decide to become a loyal reader, then they will receive these additonal benefits and be rewarded for their loyalty. Thoughts on the coding approach? Thanks in advance. D- ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:250558 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CFIdea: how to implement
Thank Rob :)
...
Ben Nadel
www.bennadel.com
-Original Message-
From: Robert Feyerherm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 8:38 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFIdea: how to implement
I think Ben's idea is great. I also think it might be cool if when you did
return that page you returned a gif or jpeg graphic that was like a smiley
face and some text that said, X Points Awarded or something like that.
-Robert
-Original Message-
From: Ben Nadel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 7:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFIdea: how to implement
I say go really really simple. At the bottom of the article page include
some javascript like this:
script type=text/javascript
setTimeout(
// Function to get called after 60 seconds.
function(){
var imgRequest = new Image();
imgRequest.src =
reward_user.cfm?id=#...#article_id=#...#key=#Hash( SESSION.CFID
SESSION.CFTOKEN id article_id )#
},
// Run after 60 seconds
60 * 1000
);
/script
This would, after 60 seconds, create an image and then try to set it's
source to a CFM page. This would in essence call that CFM page. The image
would break (or you could return a gif based on CFContent). The
reward_user.cfm page would reward the user based on the user id (id), the
article id (article_id) and a key (the HASH value). The HASH value is meant
to help stop anyone else from guessing a reward URL. Then on the
reward_user.cfm page, you would want to make sure you never credited someone
twice I suppose.
.
Ben Nadel
www.bennadel.com
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 11:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFIdea: how to implement
I have a CFidea and I wanted to seek advice on the best way to implement
it.
I'm concerned that this idea will be taxing on my shared web hosting
server.
After buildinig sites for employors and contracts, I've finally built a
site
for myself.
My site is a news and downloadable magazine (which I sell for $9.95/yr)
THE IDEA
On my site(s), I posts related stories from within my industry. I want
to
reward my readers and build loyalty. I want to reward my readers for
each
story they read with X point(s). As long as they stay on the page for
more
than 10-15 (?) seconds they will be rewarded. I want to track this to
avoid
users from just clicking through stories to get points. Once they
accumulate x number of points, they will receive one of the four issues
for
free. If they collect enough points, they can get an entire year for
free
and earn additional issues beyond their first year or give their points
to
friends or co-workers. When visitors reads stories from my site, my
google
ads are displayed which makes me money. I also want to convey to
potential
advertisers that our we reward our reader base. No other news site
within
this industry does this.
THE CODE
The reader signs up by providing only their e-mail address and confirm
their
e-mail address through an automated reply from my site with a
confirmation
link they must click on.
As an option if they want to earn reward points, I ask them to sign in
with
just their e-mail address to initiate and track their points, then get
the
current time with #CreateODBCDateTime(now())# and store it as a session
variable. When they click and go to another page on the site, even if
it's
not a story, capture the #CreateODBCDateTime(now())# again and compare
the
times and update their profile with X point(s) if the time difference
meets
my x seconds per page criteria. If someone just rapidly clicks from
story to
story to accumalate points, the points will not be counted. If they like
the
site and decide to become a loyal reader, then they will receive these
additonal benefits and be rewarded for their loyalty.
Thoughts on the coding approach?
Thanks in advance.
D-
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RE: CFIdea: how to implement
I think some of the responses you've already received have been good, but I keep thinking of ways this system could be easily tricked. I think you'd have to get into some complex captcha code, not the image stuff, but the stuff I've read about that tracks mouse/keyboard movement to make sure a human is viewing your page. This would stop bots from tricking your tracking systems (simple browser automators would break it), and it would also stop the problems you already mentioned. However, I have no idea of such code already exists online or not, and even these captcha techniques could be tricked with enough effort. That said, you are going to stop the 'casual surfer' who is not a hacker/geek destructo prankster type with the simple methods mentioned here. Slightly off topic, I realize that you've got an original sounding idea here, but I'm having trouble seeing how advertisers would find this valuable. The only thing they care about is their ads on your pages. --- This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:250677 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CFIdea: how to implement
I had to reply and say a special thank you to Mr. Ben Nadel. I tried
your script and included a simple cfmail to test it's functionality and
it worked awesome! This is exactly what I was looking for.
Thank you for sharing.
D-
I say go really really simple. At the bottom of the article page include
some javascript like this:
script type=text/javascript
setTimeout(
// Function to get called after 60 seconds.
function(){
var imgRequest = new Image();
imgRequest.src =
reward_user.cfm?id=#...#article_id=#...#key=#Hash( SESSION.CFID
SESSION.CFTOKEN id article_id )#
},
// Run after 60 seconds
60 * 1000
);
/script
This would, after 60 seconds, create an image and then try to set it's
source to a CFM page. This would in essence call that CFM page. The image
would break (or you could return a gif based on CFContent). The
reward_user.cfm page would reward the user based on the user id (id), the
article id (article_id) and a key (the HASH value). The HASH value is meant
to help stop anyone else from guessing a reward URL. Then on the
reward_user.cfm page, you would want to make sure you never credited someone
twice I suppose.
..
Ben Nadel
www.bennadel.com
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Re: CFIdea: how to implement
Just as an aside, #CreateODBCDateTime(now())# is redundant - now() is already a datetime object that can be used in date/time comparison functions. On 8/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As an option if they want to earn reward points, I ask them to sign in with just their e-mail address to initiate and track their points, then get the current time with #CreateODBCDateTime(now())# and store it as a session variable. -- CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:250557 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
